[07:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:40] <acheronuk> Was able to install the daily YY iso today by doing this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1593258/comments/4
[08:52] <jimarvan> goood morning! :)
[08:52] <acheronuk> morning :)
[09:08] <lordievader> o/
[09:28] <clivejo> interesting work around!
[09:59] <acheronuk> clivejo: well, it is rather but force yes! 
[09:59] <acheronuk> *brute force
[10:22] <yofel> well, kicking the slideshow off the image is easy enough...
[10:22] <yofel> something should take its place though
[11:11] <acheronuk> will ubiquity accept anything non webkit based to show there I wonder?
 How have Ubuntu main fixed this, or does their slideshow not work also ?
[11:18] <acheronuk> do they use pyQT4webkit at all? if not, then no need to fix?
[11:26] <yofel> they don't use PyQt4, hence they don't have the problem
[11:27] <yofel> we use our own self-written UI
[11:27] <yofel> the backend code is the shared part
[11:43] <acheronuk> ummmm. http://pyqt.sourceforge.net/Docs/PyQt5/pyqt4_differences.html
[11:43] <acheronuk> "PyQt5 is not compatibile with PyQt4 (although experience shows that the effort in porting applications from PyQt4 to PyQt5 is not great). "
[11:44] <acheronuk> Not great? 
[11:47] <lordievader> Yes, not a lot of effort is needed ;)
[11:47] <lordievader> Sometimes it is quite simple porting a Qt4 application to Qt5.
[12:02] <acheronuk> the ui doesn't seem to import a huge number of modules....
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:12] <soee> well people like to have the slides https://plus.google.com/u/0/110954078302330754910/posts/9Hef1REh2bd
[12:31] <acheronuk> soee: seems so. I can see the point that in long term they should be there. or something else giving info on what's new, how to get support etc...
[12:32] <acheronuk> looking at the code, I certainly won't be porting that any time soon though.
[12:37] <soee> yup
[15:03]  * ahoneybun wonders if any KDE devs are looking to make a krunner ext for Mycroft
[15:03] <ahoneybun> or something 
[15:28] <clivejo> Mycroft devel has gone very quiet
[15:48] <ahoneybun> I have it on my desktop atm
[15:50] <ahoneybun> mm a snap of krita
[16:07] <jimarvan> cya later peeps! :)
[16:08] <jimarvan> Karate time
[16:24] <clivejo> you have Mycroft on Kubuntu?
[16:38] <ahoneybun> yea
[16:38] <ahoneybun> 3 commands to get it from github
[16:39] <clivejo> what can it do?
[16:39] <ahoneybun> weather, basic math
[16:39] <ahoneybun> that;s what I've done so far
[16:41] <clivejo> okay
[16:42] <ahoneybun> pretty cool so far
[16:42] <ahoneybun> seems to use OpenWeatherMap for well... weather lol
[17:53] <acheronuk> clivejo: https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/qt5test/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=xenial
[17:54] <acheronuk> will see what happens with that for xenial. could all go horribly wrong
[19:12] <clivejo> so is 5.6.5 the last in the road for Xenial?
[19:17] <acheronuk> plasma? presumably yes, in any official or semi-official form
[19:22] <clivejo> should probably work on getting that backported then
[19:29] <acheronuk> some fixes in there that people have asked about
[19:30] <clivejo> any come to mind?
[19:30] <clivejo> has anyone else tested 5.6.5 on Yakkety?
[19:31] <acheronuk> maybe mamarley?
[19:31] <clivejo> for me its rock stable
[19:31] <mamarley> acheronuk: clivejo: Yep, running it right now.  No problems to report. :)
[19:32] <clivejo> but Id like at least 5+ to give the thumbs up
[19:32] <acheronuk> not got a real machine on YY I'm afraid
[19:32] <clivejo> tut tut!
[19:33] <acheronuk> I know I know
[19:34] <clivejo> Rik are you voting on Thursday?
[19:34] <acheronuk> which Rik? me
[19:34] <acheronuk> I will be
[19:34] <clivejo> yup you
[19:34] <clivejo> LOL I dont have to ask about Rick
[19:35] <acheronuk> REMAIN!
[19:35] <clivejo> oh a contrast from the other Rick!
[19:36] <acheronuk> he wants to leave then?
[19:36] <clivejo> Id assume that from his Youtube videos!
[19:37] <acheronuk> not looked at those
[19:38] <mamarley> clivejo: Does it count that I am running it on 4 computers?
[19:38] <clivejo> different hardware?
[19:39] <mamarley> Not radically different.  They are all x86_64 with NVIDIA graphics, though two of them are old enough to require the 340 drivers.
[19:39] <mamarley> Two of them are desktops and the other two are laptops.  Two of them have dual monitors.
[19:39] <clivejo> any issues?
[19:40] <mamarley> Nope, none.  You guys have done an excellent job!
[19:40] <clivejo> well that does set my mind as ease a bit
[19:40] <mamarley> (At least no packaging issues, anyway.  I do have a minor issue where the panel flashes transparent sometimes when doing stuff with maximized windows, but I have a hunch that is a Qt 5.5 bug and will be fixed in Qt 5.6.
[19:41] <clivejo> oh my panel flashes sometimes
[19:41] <clivejo> like its drawing a nofication message
[19:42] <clivejo> but doesnt
[20:34] <clivejo> hi Jim!
[20:51] <jimarvan> yo!
[21:09] <mparillo> clivejo: You mention [Plasma] 5.6.5 on YY? Is it in a PPA?
[21:09] <clivejo> plasma staging
[21:11] <mparillo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma ?
[21:11] <clivejo> sounds good
[21:13] <mparillo> 268 packages to update. I noted kactivities kde-l10n-engb kde-spectacle language-pack-kde-en
[21:13] <mparillo>   libkf5screen6 will all be removed.
[21:21] <soee> :)
[21:22] <mparillo> Update successful. Re-booting.
[21:23] <acheronuk> plasma-desktop-data still has breaks << 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu3~ on the language packs
[21:23] <clivejo> yup
[21:24] <clivejo> need to update apps too
[21:26] <mparillo> KInfocenter reports Plasma 5.6.5. The upgrade fixed the <alt><f2> biding for krunner that seemed to not work recently.
[21:26] <soee> are you on Frameworks 5.23 ?
[21:27] <mparillo> Yes
[21:27] <soee> can you check if you can create any global shortcut and if it works ?
[21:27] <mparillo> And it looks as if I really lost kde-spectacle.
[21:27] <soee> so add some shortcut to any global action that doe snot have it
[21:34] <mparillo> Sorry, I thought I knew how to add a global shortcut. I went to System Settings > Shortcuts and tried to bind About KDE to <ctrl> <alt> F12, but I got a black streen.
[21:35] <mparillo> Do you have a suggested way?
[21:37] <acheronuk> CTRL+ALT+F12 is a VT switch, so so you can assign that away in kde AFAIK
[21:40] <acheronuk> *can't
[21:42] <mparillo> Ahh, TY. What would be a good open key combination?
[21:44] <acheronuk> soee: do you mean add a shortcut on an application already listed in the global section?
[21:45] <acheronuk> or add a whole new one in the custom section?
[21:47] <clivejo> mparillo: did you install apps 16.04.1?
[21:47] <clivejo> need to install spectacle from that
[21:47] <acheronuk> mparillo: anything unassigned - meta+ctrl+a?
[21:47] <soee> acheronuk: check if custm global shortcuts work generally
[21:48] <acheronuk> soee: so either or both then
[21:51] <soee> so 
[21:51] <soee> ? :)
[21:53] <mparillo> For apps 16.04.1, I need to sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-kdeapplications ?
[21:55] <mparillo> I set in Global Keyboard Shortcuts Konversation Next Active Tab to meta+ctrl+a and it worked. 
[22:00] <soee> :/
[22:00] <soee> mparillo: can you create new activity and bind shortcuts to both than
[22:00] <soee> and check if they work ?
[22:04] <mparillo> I created a new activity. What do you mean by bind shortcuts to both?
[22:05] <soee> you can switch to given Axtivity by shortcuts assigned to each of them
[22:08] <mparillo> I went to the new activity in the Activities, clicked on the configure part, set meta+ctrl+b to, but it did not switch to it.
[22:09] <jimarvan> gn everyone! :) see  ya tomorrow
[22:09] <jimarvan> mparillo
[22:09] <mparillo> In fact, when I go back to the activity, the binding seems not to have been saved.
[22:10] <jimarvan> mparillo: hmm why meta+ctrl+b rings a bell, as key shortcut? hmmmmm...
[22:11] <mparillo> I will try c then.
[22:11] <jimarvan> that too
[22:11] <jimarvan> xD
[22:11] <jimarvan> the "a" seems safe, b and c somehow not
[22:12] <jimarvan> so you are trying to switch activities using the global shortcuts right?
[22:12] <soee> yes
[22:12] <jimarvan> hmm that is interesting indeed
[22:12] <mparillo> No, I was assigning it in the Activity itself under the Other tab.
[22:12] <jimarvan> oooooh
[22:13] <soee> i think the binding is broken since Frameworks 5.23
[22:13] <jimarvan> ye i think so too
[22:14] <jimarvan> it does worth a look tomorrow! :) gn!
[22:16] <mparillo> No better using a instead of b. As soon as I click OK, then go back in, it is not saved.
[22:16] <mparillo> Anyway, got to put some meat on the grill. Good night.
[22:18] <soee> bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342186
[22:19] <soee> mparillo: can you comment also, the bug as reopened
[22:21] <acheronuk> just going to try in neon VM
[22:24] <soee> this bug ?
[22:24] <soee> it is broken here, i'm on Neon now :)
[22:25] <acheronuk> yes, broken here. doesn't save it.
[22:59] <mparillo> I updated https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342186