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clivejofor anyone interested Ive just uploaded backport of FW5.23 for Xenial to staging PPA00:21
clivejohttp://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.23.0_xenial.html00:21
* clivejo wanders off to bed00:22
clivejomparillo: does discover work in YY 5.6.5?00:23
mparilloclivejo: My wife has the real HW I just upgraded earlier. So I am upgrading a VM on my work laptop. While it runs,  I would note that I had two problems with discover.00:31
mparilloFirst, search seemed hit or miss.00:31
mparilloSecond, the way the text flowed just seemed a bit off (and I do not consider myself overly picky on that kind of thing).00:31
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> There's a missing build package I'm wondering if its needed00:46
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> PackageKit or something like that00:47
mparilloIt certainly works. But on the home page the app shuffle seems a bit off graphically. And for example, I can find Tor under Internet > Browsers but not when I search for it by name from the front page.00:50
mparilloBut the app shuffle is much better than a screen shot I saw somebody post a few months ago.00:51
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jimarvangood morning peeps! :)08:54
clivejomorning08:55
soeePulseAudio 9.0 Sound System Released, Supports Sample Rates Up to 384 kHz09:09
mamarleysoee: There is already a beta of it in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/pulse-testing/+packages :)10:09
soeemamarley: did you tried it  ? :)10:13
mamarleysoee: Been running it since I upgraded to Yakkety.  I am also about to package 9.0 for Yakkety and Xenial and put those in ppa:mamarley/updates.10:13
soeemamarley: but yakkety has it in archive ?10:14
mamarleyOh, yes it does, I didn't notice.10:14
mamarley(The beta, anyway.  Nothing has the final yet.)10:15
soeeah ok :)10:15
tsdgeosyofel: do you guys plan to backport kinit security fix to xenial?10:23
soeei see Frameworks 5.23 are staged for Xenial http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.23.0_xenial.html11:01
soeeprobably Plasma 5.6.5 next11:01
acheronuktsdgeos: the race and permissions fix here, included in 5.23? https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kinit.git11:07
tsdgeosacheronuk: yes https://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20160621-1.txt11:08
yofelwhere do those get announced? (yes, we'll fix it)11:09
tsdgeosin the announcements list11:10
yofeloh, *now* I see the mail11:10
yofelthanks for the additional reminder11:11
BluesKajHowdy all11:42
acheronukblx! http://blog.qt.io/blog/2016/06/22/qt-5-6-1-1-released/12:19
yofeloh, a critical bug in Qt.. *yawn*12:19
acheronuklol12:22
acheronukwouldn't mind if I hadn't been building the buggy version 12:26
yofelacheronuk: <lisandro_> they re released the tarballs due to the one.patch dfix in qtdeclarative we already have13:10
yofelso you probably don't need to do anything13:10
acheronukyofel: looks like I grabbed the debian sources just before they patched it, so will need to update to qtdeclarative-opensource 5.6.1-413:18
yofelok, thanks for checking13:19
acheronukglad that's the only change! 13:20
clivejoanyone up for testing FW5.23 on Xenial?13:32
clivejoyofel: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/265298278/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.plasma-discover_5.6.5-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa3_BUILDING.txt.gz13:34
clivejooptional packagekitqt5, should it be installed?13:34
acheronukclivejo: I will install later13:36
yofelwell, feel free to try the ancient version we have13:42
clivejoI dont know what it even does13:42
mamarleySorry, I already upgraded all my boxes to Yakkety.13:43
yofelasync package management backend (used by apper and more prominent in the RPM world)13:44
clivejoso not needed?13:46
yofeldepends on what it would use it for - which I don't know13:47
acheronukclivejo: Qt 5.6.1 for xenial all building at least14:11
IrcsomeBot1<marcinsagol> I'll test on Xenial nut after 20:00 CET.14:28
acheronuknow running with FW 5.23 on xenial. will see how that goes14:30
clivejokrunner hasnt published yet :(14:32
acheronukthese too ages, and then suddenly all did at once https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/qt5test/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=xenial14:37
acheronuk*took14:37
DarinMillerclivejo: I enabled backports landing ppa on xenial, but frameworks 5.23 was not there.  Do you have frameworks 5.23 in another ppa?14:39
clivejoframeworks-staging14:39
DarinMillerwow. 233 packages to upgrade just for frameworks?14:41
clivejojust beware that it could break your system14:42
clivejotesting only!14:42
DarinMillerLife is adventure and everyday is a test :).  If it breaks we fix it.14:43
clivejojust saying!14:44
DarinMillerDoesn't frameworks have some x-dependencies with plasma these days? Thought I saw M Grasslin's comments awhile back where he released a plamsa update and forgot to push a fw dependency into 5.23.14:46
DarinMillerIn other words, do you have a 5.6.x build of plasma in plasma-staging that I should also enable?14:47
clivejoits in backports14:49
DarinMillerBackport, BP-landing, and fw-staging all turned on here.  Everything update without a problem. killall plasmashell && plasmashell and fw 5.23 running fine so far.14:51
clivejoany others willing to test it?14:52
DarinMillerNot sure how to stress test fw 5.23, I will relay any issues if I find any.14:52
clivejoif I can get a few more thumbs up Ill try and stage plasma 5.6.514:53
mamarleyclivejo: Now that I check again, I do have a Xenial VM sitting around.  I shall try upgrading that.14:53
acheronukseems OK so far14:54
DarinMillerDo you plan to stage 5.65 in plasma-staging or backports landing or plain backports?14:54
clivejowe stage to staging :P14:55
clivejodo some testing14:55
clivejothen move it to landing14:55
clivejodo some more testing14:55
DarinMiller:) OK14:55
clivejoI think Ill copy FW over to plasma14:58
IrcsomeBot1<marcinsagol> And than Plasma 5.7 :D15:00
IrcsomeBot1<marcinsagol> With Qt 5.6 -.-15:00
clivejokopy underway15:02
mamarleyclivejo: The upgrade to FW5.23 on the Xenial VM went cleanly.  Rebooting now…15:05
mamarleyLooks good.  All the applications start and I don't see any issues! :)15:08
BluesKajjust installed the 4.6.2 kernel and rebooted, but uname -a shows the 4.4 kernel and update-grub shows the 4.6.2 kernel , what gives?15:45
BluesKajops wrong chat...nm15:46
BluesKajoops15:46
acheronukQt 5.6.1 on xenial is a lot of breakage :/16:44
clivejo:(16:45
acheronukbut didn't expect anything else really. can see why neon rebuilt a fair bit16:45
clivejoentire stack would need rebuilt?16:45
acheronukdon't know. got a lot of slightly non standard stuff on this machine. should probably make a fresh/clean xenial VM to try it on16:46
* clivejo pokes LP16:49
acheronukon this machine with a dist-upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/17705211/16:49
clivejolot of removes!16:50
mamarleyI think a lot of those removals are transitive dependencies on a select few packages that depend on the Qt ABI version.16:51
clivejomost of plasma by looks of it!16:51
acheronukthen trying to install the held back qtchooser and qt5-qmake http://paste.ubuntu.com/1770531316:51
acheronukmamarley: probably right. had a brief look trying to work out what and went round in dependency circles.16:53
mamarleyI have encountered the same thing in the past and I don't think it was any more than 2 or 3 packages that needed to be recompiled.16:54
mamarleyI don't remember which ones they were though.16:54
acheronukshall try in a clean VM to see if I can narrow it down somewhat16:59
clivejoyofel: is there a script to bump Qt version numbers in control files?16:59
* clivejo wonders why kwayland is red17:21
clivejohttp://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.6.5_xenial.html17:21
acheronukon Qt, may be some clues in here on what Mirv rebuilt https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-011/+packages17:22
acheronukalthough much is extraneous to kubuntu17:23
soeehiho18:05
soeeclivejo: ill wait with testing Frameworks and try it with Plasma 5.6.518:10
soee*on Xenial18:10
yofelclivejo: no, you just make sure you have all of Qt in place before you build kde18:13
yofelacheronuk: once the packages are in backports-landing I'll set up a transition tracker so we don't miss anything18:14
acheronukyofel: yes, sounds good.18:18
IrcsomeBot1<Clifford> Yofel would you describe how to do it so we know how in future?18:20
yofelthe transition tracker? I pointed you to the scripts last time.. It's a bit fiddly to get right (and the qt private abi transition will probably require using the debian ben file)18:21
acheronukaha! https://yofel.net/kubuntu/transitions/index.html18:31
yofelacheronuk: https://yofel.net/kubuntu/backport-report/ben/ was what I did last18:32
yofelthe shell scripts in https://yofel.net/kubuntu/backport-report/ do the heavy lifting18:33
acheronukI see, yes. I was just going back over IRC logs that is all, and found that link18:34
geniiyofel: Just curious... do you get a hightlight when yofel.net is mentioned?19:04
yofelyes ^^19:05
geniiOK, just wondering :)19:05
yofelI like stalking my domain :P19:05
clivejoclick bait :P19:06
clivejodownloads yofel malware :P19:06
* clivejo pokes LP19:07
clivejoso *beeping* slow19:11
clivejoacheronuk: is Qt5.6.1 for yakkety good to go?19:16
clivejoif I klear the staging-frameworks PPA and rebuild FW5.23 on Qt 5.6.1 19:23
acheronukI've done all that I 'think' is needed for kde/plasma. there are extra qt components that could go in there19:23
mamarleyclivejo: Have you already kopied that stuff to landing?19:24
clivejono19:24
clivejobut FW5.23 XX and YY have been copied to plasma-staging19:24
acheronukthere are also some changes in debian git since the last debian revision release to unstable, but again not sure if really needed19:24
mamarleyclivejo: Oh, staging-frameworks, sorry.  I missed that part.19:25
sick_rimmitHi folks19:26
clivejohi Rick19:26
acheronukhi ;)19:26
acheronukor :)19:26
sick_rimmitFor the next Dojo, I am going to look at finishing the Getting Setup, as far as creating a pbuilder environment19:26
sick_rimmitThen I thought it would be useful to work on understanding Debian Packaging19:27
sick_rimmitI was thinking of working from the Debian Guide19:27
sick_rimmithttps://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/packaging-tutorial/packaging-tutorial.en.pdf19:27
clivejomaybe we could get a debian package to talk about itself19:27
sick_rimmitSound OK ?19:28
yofel!info hello 19:29
ubottuhello (source: hello): example package based on GNU hello. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10-1 (yakkety), package size 26 kB, installed size 104 kB19:29
yofelthat's used by the maint guide ^^19:29
sick_rimmitCool, I can work with that19:30
sick_rimmityofel: A while ago you setup a machine for me to work on, is it still availabled. I tried to login the other day but couldn't19:34
yofelah, give me a sec19:34
yofelsick_rimmit: ssh -p 2225 root@176.9.34.19819:41
sick_rimmitclivejo: I need to replace bzr with git 19:41
clivejofor what19:41
sick_rimmitfor package sources etc... yes ?19:42
sick_rimmitor are we using both19:42
sick_rimmityofel: Thank you..19:42
clivejosome might be still on bzr19:44
yofelsick_rimmit: I'll leave it running again, but I ocasionally reboot the host and don't automatically launch the container after that19:46
sick_rimmityofel: Is there a cost to leaving it running ?19:50
yofelno19:50
yofelThat's an LXD instance on my dedicated server19:51
sick_rimmityofel: Sorry my publickey changed, last time I did dojo I mistakenly overwrote it. I just uploaded my new key to LP19:51
yofelsec19:51
yofelsick_rimmit: try now19:51
sick_rimmityofel: I would like to use it for Dojo, and Packaging19:52
yofelgo ahead19:52
sick_rimmityofel: Brilliant, I have access thank you :-D19:52
* acheronuk kicks LP where it hurts20:00
* clivejo hi fives acheronuk20:09
acheronuk:) http://i.imgur.com/HWP34qI.png20:15
clivejoso it works?20:17
acheronukseems to20:18
clivejokmenuedit stil building20:18
acheronukyes, I was impatient20:18
clivejoLOL20:19
acheronukI'll run on this on 2 machines for now, see how it goes20:20
clivejoacheronuk: did you patch Qt 5.6.1?20:20
acheronukfor what? that regression? 20:20
clivejosecurity issue mentioned earlier20:21
acheronukhttps://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt/qtdeclarative.git/commit/?id=33b3f7d5728bde68efafa7bfca311bcd223b624c20:21
acheronukdone in qtdeclarative 5.6.1-4, which I updated both YY and XX with earlier20:22
clivejoyofel: ping20:24
yofelhm?20:25
clivejocan I klear out frameworks staging and kopy in Qt 5.6.1 from Ricks PPA?20:26
yofelfrom my side: go ahead20:29
clivejoor is there another way?20:30
clivejowhat would yofel do?20:30
yofelthe same20:30
clivejoWWYD20:30
* DarinMiller clivejo cracks me up20:35
* clivejo thinks we should get t-shirt made20:36
clivejoKubuntu Dojo on the front and WWYD on the back20:37
clivejook klearing frameworks20:43
clivejokopy'ed Qt 5.6.1 to frameworks-staging20:51
soeeo/20:52
* acheronuk waits for the bang/crash20:59
acheronukanyone who has left the frameworks-staging ppa enabled, BEWARE!21:01
acheronukgoing to look for my polling card and say goodnight I think21:09
acheronukyawn...21:09
clivejobeware indeed!21:12
clivejocould do boom!21:12
clivejohows testing of Plasma 5.6.5 on Xenial going?21:13
clivejosoee: 21:16
clivejosoee: your up :P21:17
soeelet me run Xenial machine and test21:27
sick_rimmitacheronuk: Good Night, I'll be voting in the morning too21:27
sick_rimmitRight thats me done for tonight, mostly ready for next weeks dojo21:28
sick_rimmitcatch you guys later21:28
sick_rimmitttfn21:28
soeeclivejo: upgrading Xenial21:46
soeeclivejo: all fine, not a single error21:51
soee+1 for moving to backports form my side21:51
clivejoneed more testers21:51
soeevalorie: ping21:52
flexiondotorgHi, Ubuntu MATE lead here. Just wondering if Kubuntu are looking to participate in 16.10 Alpha1?21:54
soeeyofel: ^21:55
yofelflexiondotorg: hi, and "no"21:55
flexiondotorgyofel, Thanks :-)21:56
soeeyofel: are you able to test 5.6.5 for Xenial ?21:57
yofelin backports-landing? (not before friday evening though)21:57
soeeyofel: plasma-staging21:57
yofelnot interested in that :P21:58
soee:P21:58
yofelI'll do manual QA after all our auto-qa options are used up21:58
clivejowhat happens on Friday evening?22:01
yofelI get home and can upgrade my desktop22:09
clivejoah22:15
yofelthe packages look fine though from a quick test, so put them in landing so we can release them over the weekend22:19
soeeshal i ask for testers on G+ 22:25
soee?22:25
clivejoonly experienced testers22:25
geniiIs there some timeline on this?22:26
geniiI can test the 5.6.5 on Xenial 22:28
geniiYakkety testing I need to install it somewhere first22:28
yofelno timeline really, but no reason to delay it either22:29
soeegenii: please do test on Xenial22:29
geniisoee: Ok. Gimme some time to boot that box up and do updates. I'll let you know.22:33
soeethanks22:34
geniiHave to go buy AA for mouse :(22:37
soee:)22:40
goddardin ubuntu 16.04 suspend doesn't work, but it worked in 14.0422:51
geniiMeh soee timed out.23:30
geniiyofel: Are there any other PPA I need as prerequisite before staging-plasma ?23:31
yofelclivejo: ^23:31
clivejono23:31
clivejoframeworks are in there too23:31
geniiOK23:31
* genii examines his bellybutton lint as install things scroll by23:37
geniiPretty funky wallpaper23:45
genii-testingOk, so About screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/QB0Bx91.jpg      I noticed after installing Quassel the "Type here" above Applications was unresponsive for about a minute. This is a pretty stock install. Anything specific I need to look at?23:54
genii-testingEvery app when opening is fairly small on far bottom right, not sure if this is by design23:59

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