[00:21] for anyone interested Ive just uploaded backport of FW5.23 for Xenial to staging PPA [00:21] http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.23.0_xenial.html [00:22] * clivejo wanders off to bed [00:23] mparillo: does discover work in YY 5.6.5? [00:31] clivejo: My wife has the real HW I just upgraded earlier. So I am upgrading a VM on my work laptop. While it runs, I would note that I had two problems with discover. [00:31] First, search seemed hit or miss. [00:31] Second, the way the text flowed just seemed a bit off (and I do not consider myself overly picky on that kind of thing). [00:46] There's a missing build package I'm wondering if its needed [00:47] PackageKit or something like that [00:50] It certainly works. But on the home page the app shuffle seems a bit off graphically. And for example, I can find Tor under Internet > Browsers but not when I search for it by name from the front page. [00:51] But the app shuffle is much better than a screen shot I saw somebody post a few months ago. === fabo_ is now known as fabo === je4d_ is now known as je4d [08:54] good morning peeps! :) [08:55] morning [09:09] PulseAudio 9.0 Sound System Released, Supports Sample Rates Up to 384 kHz [10:09] soee: There is already a beta of it in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/pulse-testing/+packages :) [10:13] mamarley: did you tried it ? :) [10:13] soee: Been running it since I upgraded to Yakkety. I am also about to package 9.0 for Yakkety and Xenial and put those in ppa:mamarley/updates. [10:14] mamarley: but yakkety has it in archive ? [10:14] Oh, yes it does, I didn't notice. [10:15] (The beta, anyway. Nothing has the final yet.) [10:15] ah ok :) [10:23] yofel: do you guys plan to backport kinit security fix to xenial? [11:01] i see Frameworks 5.23 are staged for Xenial http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.23.0_xenial.html [11:01] probably Plasma 5.6.5 next [11:07] tsdgeos: the race and permissions fix here, included in 5.23? https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kinit.git [11:08] acheronuk: yes https://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20160621-1.txt [11:09] where do those get announced? (yes, we'll fix it) [11:10] in the announcements list [11:10] oh, *now* I see the mail [11:11] thanks for the additional reminder [11:42] Howdy all [12:19] blx! http://blog.qt.io/blog/2016/06/22/qt-5-6-1-1-released/ [12:19] oh, a critical bug in Qt.. *yawn* [12:22] lol [12:26] wouldn't mind if I hadn't been building the buggy version [13:10] acheronuk: they re released the tarballs due to the one.patch dfix in qtdeclarative we already have [13:10] so you probably don't need to do anything [13:18] yofel: looks like I grabbed the debian sources just before they patched it, so will need to update to qtdeclarative-opensource 5.6.1-4 [13:19] ok, thanks for checking [13:20] glad that's the only change! [13:32] anyone up for testing FW5.23 on Xenial? [13:34] yofel: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/265298278/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.plasma-discover_5.6.5-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa3_BUILDING.txt.gz [13:34] optional packagekitqt5, should it be installed? [13:36] clivejo: I will install later [13:42] well, feel free to try the ancient version we have [13:42] I dont know what it even does [13:43] Sorry, I already upgraded all my boxes to Yakkety. [13:44] async package management backend (used by apper and more prominent in the RPM world) [13:46] so not needed? [13:47] depends on what it would use it for - which I don't know [14:11] clivejo: Qt 5.6.1 for xenial all building at least [14:28] I'll test on Xenial nut after 20:00 CET. [14:30] now running with FW 5.23 on xenial. will see how that goes [14:32] krunner hasnt published yet :( [14:37] these too ages, and then suddenly all did at once https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/qt5test/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=xenial [14:37] *took [14:39] clivejo: I enabled backports landing ppa on xenial, but frameworks 5.23 was not there. Do you have frameworks 5.23 in another ppa? [14:39] frameworks-staging [14:41] wow. 233 packages to upgrade just for frameworks? [14:42] just beware that it could break your system [14:42] testing only! [14:43] Life is adventure and everyday is a test :). If it breaks we fix it. [14:44] just saying! [14:46] Doesn't frameworks have some x-dependencies with plasma these days? Thought I saw M Grasslin's comments awhile back where he released a plamsa update and forgot to push a fw dependency into 5.23. [14:47] In other words, do you have a 5.6.x build of plasma in plasma-staging that I should also enable? [14:49] its in backports [14:51] Backport, BP-landing, and fw-staging all turned on here. Everything update without a problem. killall plasmashell && plasmashell and fw 5.23 running fine so far. [14:52] any others willing to test it? [14:52] Not sure how to stress test fw 5.23, I will relay any issues if I find any. [14:53] if I can get a few more thumbs up Ill try and stage plasma 5.6.5 [14:53] clivejo: Now that I check again, I do have a Xenial VM sitting around. I shall try upgrading that. [14:54] seems OK so far [14:54] Do you plan to stage 5.65 in plasma-staging or backports landing or plain backports? [14:55] we stage to staging :P [14:55] do some testing [14:55] then move it to landing [14:55] do some more testing [14:55] :) OK [14:58] I think Ill copy FW over to plasma [15:00] And than Plasma 5.7 :D [15:00] With Qt 5.6 -.- [15:02] kopy underway [15:05] clivejo: The upgrade to FW5.23 on the Xenial VM went cleanly. Rebooting now… [15:08] Looks good. All the applications start and I don't see any issues! :) [15:45] just installed the 4.6.2 kernel and rebooted, but uname -a shows the 4.4 kernel and update-grub shows the 4.6.2 kernel , what gives? [15:46] ops wrong chat...nm [15:46] oops [16:44] Qt 5.6.1 on xenial is a lot of breakage :/ [16:45] :( [16:45] but didn't expect anything else really. can see why neon rebuilt a fair bit [16:45] entire stack would need rebuilt? [16:46] don't know. got a lot of slightly non standard stuff on this machine. should probably make a fresh/clean xenial VM to try it on [16:49] * clivejo pokes LP [16:49] on this machine with a dist-upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/17705211/ [16:50] lot of removes! [16:51] I think a lot of those removals are transitive dependencies on a select few packages that depend on the Qt ABI version. [16:51] most of plasma by looks of it! [16:51] then trying to install the held back qtchooser and qt5-qmake http://paste.ubuntu.com/17705313 [16:53] mamarley: probably right. had a brief look trying to work out what and went round in dependency circles. [16:54] I have encountered the same thing in the past and I don't think it was any more than 2 or 3 packages that needed to be recompiled. [16:54] I don't remember which ones they were though. [16:59] shall try in a clean VM to see if I can narrow it down somewhat [16:59] yofel: is there a script to bump Qt version numbers in control files? [17:21] * clivejo wonders why kwayland is red [17:21] http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.6.5_xenial.html [17:22] on Qt, may be some clues in here on what Mirv rebuilt https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-011/+packages [17:23] although much is extraneous to kubuntu [18:05] hiho [18:10] clivejo: ill wait with testing Frameworks and try it with Plasma 5.6.5 [18:10] *on Xenial [18:13] clivejo: no, you just make sure you have all of Qt in place before you build kde [18:14] acheronuk: once the packages are in backports-landing I'll set up a transition tracker so we don't miss anything [18:18] yofel: yes, sounds good. [18:20] Yofel would you describe how to do it so we know how in future? [18:21] the transition tracker? I pointed you to the scripts last time.. It's a bit fiddly to get right (and the qt private abi transition will probably require using the debian ben file) [18:31] aha! https://yofel.net/kubuntu/transitions/index.html [18:32] acheronuk: https://yofel.net/kubuntu/backport-report/ben/ was what I did last [18:33] the shell scripts in https://yofel.net/kubuntu/backport-report/ do the heavy lifting [18:34] I see, yes. I was just going back over IRC logs that is all, and found that link [19:04] yofel: Just curious... do you get a hightlight when yofel.net is mentioned? [19:05] yes ^^ [19:05] OK, just wondering :) [19:05] I like stalking my domain :P [19:06] click bait :P [19:06] downloads yofel malware :P [19:07] * clivejo pokes LP [19:11] so *beeping* slow [19:16] acheronuk: is Qt5.6.1 for yakkety good to go? [19:23] if I klear the staging-frameworks PPA and rebuild FW5.23 on Qt 5.6.1 [19:23] I've done all that I 'think' is needed for kde/plasma. there are extra qt components that could go in there [19:24] clivejo: Have you already kopied that stuff to landing? [19:24] no [19:24] but FW5.23 XX and YY have been copied to plasma-staging [19:24] there are also some changes in debian git since the last debian revision release to unstable, but again not sure if really needed [19:25] clivejo: Oh, staging-frameworks, sorry. I missed that part. [19:26] Hi folks [19:26] hi Rick [19:26] hi ;) [19:26] or :) [19:26] For the next Dojo, I am going to look at finishing the Getting Setup, as far as creating a pbuilder environment [19:27] Then I thought it would be useful to work on understanding Debian Packaging [19:27] I was thinking of working from the Debian Guide [19:27] https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/packaging-tutorial/packaging-tutorial.en.pdf [19:27] maybe we could get a debian package to talk about itself [19:28] Sound OK ? [19:29] !info hello [19:29] hello (source: hello): example package based on GNU hello. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10-1 (yakkety), package size 26 kB, installed size 104 kB [19:29] that's used by the maint guide ^^ [19:30] Cool, I can work with that [19:34] yofel: A while ago you setup a machine for me to work on, is it still availabled. I tried to login the other day but couldn't [19:34] ah, give me a sec [19:41] sick_rimmit: ssh -p 2225 root@176.9.34.198 [19:41] clivejo: I need to replace bzr with git [19:41] for what [19:42] for package sources etc... yes ? [19:42] or are we using both [19:42] yofel: Thank you.. [19:44] some might be still on bzr [19:46] sick_rimmit: I'll leave it running again, but I ocasionally reboot the host and don't automatically launch the container after that [19:50] yofel: Is there a cost to leaving it running ? [19:50] no [19:51] That's an LXD instance on my dedicated server [19:51] yofel: Sorry my publickey changed, last time I did dojo I mistakenly overwrote it. I just uploaded my new key to LP [19:51] sec [19:51] sick_rimmit: try now [19:52] yofel: I would like to use it for Dojo, and Packaging [19:52] go ahead [19:52] yofel: Brilliant, I have access thank you :-D [20:00] * acheronuk kicks LP where it hurts [20:09] * clivejo hi fives acheronuk [20:15] :) http://i.imgur.com/HWP34qI.png [20:17] so it works? [20:18] seems to [20:18] kmenuedit stil building [20:18] yes, I was impatient [20:19] LOL [20:20] I'll run on this on 2 machines for now, see how it goes [20:20] acheronuk: did you patch Qt 5.6.1? [20:20] for what? that regression? [20:21] security issue mentioned earlier [20:21] https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt/qtdeclarative.git/commit/?id=33b3f7d5728bde68efafa7bfca311bcd223b624c [20:22] done in qtdeclarative 5.6.1-4, which I updated both YY and XX with earlier [20:24] yofel: ping [20:25] hm? [20:26] can I klear out frameworks staging and kopy in Qt 5.6.1 from Ricks PPA? [20:29] from my side: go ahead [20:30] or is there another way? [20:30] what would yofel do? [20:30] the same [20:30] WWYD [20:35] * DarinMiller clivejo cracks me up [20:36] * clivejo thinks we should get t-shirt made [20:37] Kubuntu Dojo on the front and WWYD on the back [20:43] ok klearing frameworks [20:51] kopy'ed Qt 5.6.1 to frameworks-staging [20:52] o/ [20:59] * acheronuk waits for the bang/crash [21:01] anyone who has left the frameworks-staging ppa enabled, BEWARE! [21:09] going to look for my polling card and say goodnight I think [21:09] yawn... [21:12] beware indeed! [21:12] could do boom! [21:13] hows testing of Plasma 5.6.5 on Xenial going? [21:16] soee: [21:17] soee: your up :P [21:27] let me run Xenial machine and test [21:27] acheronuk: Good Night, I'll be voting in the morning too [21:28] Right thats me done for tonight, mostly ready for next weeks dojo [21:28] catch you guys later [21:28] ttfn [21:46] clivejo: upgrading Xenial [21:51] clivejo: all fine, not a single error [21:51] +1 for moving to backports form my side [21:51] need more testers [21:52] valorie: ping [21:54] Hi, Ubuntu MATE lead here. Just wondering if Kubuntu are looking to participate in 16.10 Alpha1? [21:55] yofel: ^ [21:55] flexiondotorg: hi, and "no" [21:56] yofel, Thanks :-) [21:57] yofel: are you able to test 5.6.5 for Xenial ? [21:57] in backports-landing? (not before friday evening though) [21:57] yofel: plasma-staging [21:58] not interested in that :P [21:58] :P [21:58] I'll do manual QA after all our auto-qa options are used up [22:01] what happens on Friday evening? [22:09] I get home and can upgrade my desktop [22:15] ah [22:19] the packages look fine though from a quick test, so put them in landing so we can release them over the weekend [22:25] shal i ask for testers on G+ [22:25] ? [22:25] only experienced testers [22:26] Is there some timeline on this? [22:28] I can test the 5.6.5 on Xenial [22:28] Yakkety testing I need to install it somewhere first [22:29] no timeline really, but no reason to delay it either [22:29] genii: please do test on Xenial [22:33] soee: Ok. Gimme some time to boot that box up and do updates. I'll let you know. [22:34] thanks [22:37] Have to go buy AA for mouse :( [22:40] :) [22:51] in ubuntu 16.04 suspend doesn't work, but it worked in 14.04 [23:30] Meh soee timed out. [23:31] yofel: Are there any other PPA I need as prerequisite before staging-plasma ? [23:31] clivejo: ^ [23:31] no [23:31] frameworks are in there too [23:31] OK [23:37] * genii examines his bellybutton lint as install things scroll by [23:45] Pretty funky wallpaper [23:54] Ok, so About screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/QB0Bx91.jpg I noticed after installing Quassel the "Type here" above Applications was unresponsive for about a minute. This is a pretty stock install. Anything specific I need to look at? [23:59] Every app when opening is fairly small on far bottom right, not sure if this is by design