[00:21] <clivejo> for anyone interested Ive just uploaded backport of FW5.23 for Xenial to staging PPA
[00:21] <clivejo> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.23.0_xenial.html
[00:22]  * clivejo wanders off to bed
[00:23] <clivejo> mparillo: does discover work in YY 5.6.5?
[00:31] <mparillo> clivejo: My wife has the real HW I just upgraded earlier. So I am upgrading a VM on my work laptop. While it runs,  I would note that I had two problems with discover.
[00:31] <mparillo> First, search seemed hit or miss.
[00:31] <mparillo> Second, the way the text flowed just seemed a bit off (and I do not consider myself overly picky on that kind of thing).
 There's a missing build package I'm wondering if its needed
 PackageKit or something like that
[00:50] <mparillo> It certainly works. But on the home page the app shuffle seems a bit off graphically. And for example, I can find Tor under Internet > Browsers but not when I search for it by name from the front page.
[00:51] <mparillo> But the app shuffle is much better than a screen shot I saw somebody post a few months ago.
[08:54] <jimarvan> good morning peeps! :)
[08:55] <clivejo> morning
[09:09] <soee> PulseAudio 9.0 Sound System Released, Supports Sample Rates Up to 384 kHz
[10:09] <mamarley> soee: There is already a beta of it in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/pulse-testing/+packages :)
[10:13] <soee> mamarley: did you tried it  ? :)
[10:13] <mamarley> soee: Been running it since I upgraded to Yakkety.  I am also about to package 9.0 for Yakkety and Xenial and put those in ppa:mamarley/updates.
[10:14] <soee> mamarley: but yakkety has it in archive ?
[10:14] <mamarley> Oh, yes it does, I didn't notice.
[10:15] <mamarley> (The beta, anyway.  Nothing has the final yet.)
[10:15] <soee> ah ok :)
[10:23] <tsdgeos> yofel: do you guys plan to backport kinit security fix to xenial?
[11:01] <soee> i see Frameworks 5.23 are staged for Xenial http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.23.0_xenial.html
[11:01] <soee> probably Plasma 5.6.5 next
[11:07] <acheronuk> tsdgeos: the race and permissions fix here, included in 5.23? https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kinit.git
[11:08] <tsdgeos> acheronuk: yes https://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20160621-1.txt
[11:09] <yofel> where do those get announced? (yes, we'll fix it)
[11:10] <tsdgeos> in the announcements list
[11:10] <yofel> oh, *now* I see the mail
[11:11] <yofel> thanks for the additional reminder
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:19] <acheronuk> blx! http://blog.qt.io/blog/2016/06/22/qt-5-6-1-1-released/
[12:19] <yofel> oh, a critical bug in Qt.. *yawn*
[12:22] <acheronuk> lol
[12:26] <acheronuk> wouldn't mind if I hadn't been building the buggy version 
[13:10] <yofel> acheronuk: <lisandro_> they re released the tarballs due to the one.patch dfix in qtdeclarative we already have
[13:10] <yofel> so you probably don't need to do anything
[13:18] <acheronuk> yofel: looks like I grabbed the debian sources just before they patched it, so will need to update to qtdeclarative-opensource 5.6.1-4
[13:19] <yofel> ok, thanks for checking
[13:20] <acheronuk> glad that's the only change! 
[13:32] <clivejo> anyone up for testing FW5.23 on Xenial?
[13:34] <clivejo> yofel: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/265298278/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.plasma-discover_5.6.5-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa3_BUILDING.txt.gz
[13:34] <clivejo> optional packagekitqt5, should it be installed?
[13:36] <acheronuk> clivejo: I will install later
[13:42] <yofel> well, feel free to try the ancient version we have
[13:42] <clivejo> I dont know what it even does
[13:43] <mamarley> Sorry, I already upgraded all my boxes to Yakkety.
[13:44] <yofel> async package management backend (used by apper and more prominent in the RPM world)
[13:46] <clivejo> so not needed?
[13:47] <yofel> depends on what it would use it for - which I don't know
[14:11] <acheronuk> clivejo: Qt 5.6.1 for xenial all building at least
 I'll test on Xenial nut after 20:00 CET.
[14:30] <acheronuk> now running with FW 5.23 on xenial. will see how that goes
[14:32] <clivejo> krunner hasnt published yet :(
[14:37] <acheronuk> these too ages, and then suddenly all did at once https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/qt5test/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=xenial
[14:37] <acheronuk> *took
[14:39] <DarinMiller> clivejo: I enabled backports landing ppa on xenial, but frameworks 5.23 was not there.  Do you have frameworks 5.23 in another ppa?
[14:39] <clivejo> frameworks-staging
[14:41] <DarinMiller> wow. 233 packages to upgrade just for frameworks?
[14:42] <clivejo> just beware that it could break your system
[14:42] <clivejo> testing only!
[14:43] <DarinMiller> Life is adventure and everyday is a test :).  If it breaks we fix it.
[14:44] <clivejo> just saying!
[14:46] <DarinMiller> Doesn't frameworks have some x-dependencies with plasma these days? Thought I saw M Grasslin's comments awhile back where he released a plamsa update and forgot to push a fw dependency into 5.23.
[14:47] <DarinMiller> In other words, do you have a 5.6.x build of plasma in plasma-staging that I should also enable?
[14:49] <clivejo> its in backports
[14:51] <DarinMiller> Backport, BP-landing, and fw-staging all turned on here.  Everything update without a problem. killall plasmashell && plasmashell and fw 5.23 running fine so far.
[14:52] <clivejo> any others willing to test it?
[14:52] <DarinMiller> Not sure how to stress test fw 5.23, I will relay any issues if I find any.
[14:53] <clivejo> if I can get a few more thumbs up Ill try and stage plasma 5.6.5
[14:53] <mamarley> clivejo: Now that I check again, I do have a Xenial VM sitting around.  I shall try upgrading that.
[14:54] <acheronuk> seems OK so far
[14:54] <DarinMiller> Do you plan to stage 5.65 in plasma-staging or backports landing or plain backports?
[14:55] <clivejo> we stage to staging :P
[14:55] <clivejo> do some testing
[14:55] <clivejo> then move it to landing
[14:55] <clivejo> do some more testing
[14:55] <DarinMiller> :) OK
[14:58] <clivejo> I think Ill copy FW over to plasma
 And than Plasma 5.7 :D
 With Qt 5.6 -.-
[15:02] <clivejo> kopy underway
[15:05] <mamarley> clivejo: The upgrade to FW5.23 on the Xenial VM went cleanly.  Rebooting now…
[15:08] <mamarley> Looks good.  All the applications start and I don't see any issues! :)
[15:45] <BluesKaj> just installed the 4.6.2 kernel and rebooted, but uname -a shows the 4.4 kernel and update-grub shows the 4.6.2 kernel , what gives?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> ops wrong chat...nm
[15:46] <BluesKaj> oops
[16:44] <acheronuk> Qt 5.6.1 on xenial is a lot of breakage :/
[16:45] <clivejo> :(
[16:45] <acheronuk> but didn't expect anything else really. can see why neon rebuilt a fair bit
[16:45] <clivejo> entire stack would need rebuilt?
[16:46] <acheronuk> don't know. got a lot of slightly non standard stuff on this machine. should probably make a fresh/clean xenial VM to try it on
[16:49]  * clivejo pokes LP
[16:49] <acheronuk> on this machine with a dist-upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/17705211/
[16:50] <clivejo> lot of removes!
[16:51] <mamarley> I think a lot of those removals are transitive dependencies on a select few packages that depend on the Qt ABI version.
[16:51] <clivejo> most of plasma by looks of it!
[16:51] <acheronuk> then trying to install the held back qtchooser and qt5-qmake http://paste.ubuntu.com/17705313
[16:53] <acheronuk> mamarley: probably right. had a brief look trying to work out what and went round in dependency circles.
[16:54] <mamarley> I have encountered the same thing in the past and I don't think it was any more than 2 or 3 packages that needed to be recompiled.
[16:54] <mamarley> I don't remember which ones they were though.
[16:59] <acheronuk> shall try in a clean VM to see if I can narrow it down somewhat
[16:59] <clivejo> yofel: is there a script to bump Qt version numbers in control files?
[17:21]  * clivejo wonders why kwayland is red
[17:21] <clivejo> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.6.5_xenial.html
[17:22] <acheronuk> on Qt, may be some clues in here on what Mirv rebuilt https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-011/+packages
[17:23] <acheronuk> although much is extraneous to kubuntu
[18:05] <soee> hiho
[18:10] <soee> clivejo: ill wait with testing Frameworks and try it with Plasma 5.6.5
[18:10] <soee> *on Xenial
[18:13] <yofel> clivejo: no, you just make sure you have all of Qt in place before you build kde
[18:14] <yofel> acheronuk: once the packages are in backports-landing I'll set up a transition tracker so we don't miss anything
[18:18] <acheronuk> yofel: yes, sounds good.
 Yofel would you describe how to do it so we know how in future?
[18:21] <yofel> the transition tracker? I pointed you to the scripts last time.. It's a bit fiddly to get right (and the qt private abi transition will probably require using the debian ben file)
[18:31] <acheronuk> aha! https://yofel.net/kubuntu/transitions/index.html
[18:32] <yofel> acheronuk: https://yofel.net/kubuntu/backport-report/ben/ was what I did last
[18:33] <yofel> the shell scripts in https://yofel.net/kubuntu/backport-report/ do the heavy lifting
[18:34] <acheronuk> I see, yes. I was just going back over IRC logs that is all, and found that link
[19:04] <genii> yofel: Just curious... do you get a hightlight when yofel.net is mentioned?
[19:05] <yofel> yes ^^
[19:05] <genii> OK, just wondering :)
[19:05] <yofel> I like stalking my domain :P
[19:06] <clivejo> click bait :P
[19:06] <clivejo> downloads yofel malware :P
[19:07]  * clivejo pokes LP
[19:11] <clivejo> so *beeping* slow
[19:16] <clivejo> acheronuk: is Qt5.6.1 for yakkety good to go?
[19:23] <clivejo> if I klear the staging-frameworks PPA and rebuild FW5.23 on Qt 5.6.1 
[19:23] <acheronuk> I've done all that I 'think' is needed for kde/plasma. there are extra qt components that could go in there
[19:24] <mamarley> clivejo: Have you already kopied that stuff to landing?
[19:24] <clivejo> no
[19:24] <clivejo> but FW5.23 XX and YY have been copied to plasma-staging
[19:24] <acheronuk> there are also some changes in debian git since the last debian revision release to unstable, but again not sure if really needed
[19:25] <mamarley> clivejo: Oh, staging-frameworks, sorry.  I missed that part.
[19:26] <sick_rimmit> Hi folks
[19:26] <clivejo> hi Rick
[19:26] <acheronuk> hi ;)
[19:26] <acheronuk> or :)
[19:26] <sick_rimmit> For the next Dojo, I am going to look at finishing the Getting Setup, as far as creating a pbuilder environment
[19:27] <sick_rimmit> Then I thought it would be useful to work on understanding Debian Packaging
[19:27] <sick_rimmit> I was thinking of working from the Debian Guide
[19:27] <sick_rimmit> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/packaging-tutorial/packaging-tutorial.en.pdf
[19:27] <clivejo> maybe we could get a debian package to talk about itself
[19:28] <sick_rimmit> Sound OK ?
[19:29] <yofel> !info hello 
[19:29] <yofel> that's used by the maint guide ^^
[19:30] <sick_rimmit> Cool, I can work with that
[19:34] <sick_rimmit> yofel: A while ago you setup a machine for me to work on, is it still availabled. I tried to login the other day but couldn't
[19:34] <yofel> ah, give me a sec
[19:41] <yofel> sick_rimmit: ssh -p 2225 root@176.9.34.198
[19:41] <sick_rimmit> clivejo: I need to replace bzr with git 
[19:41] <clivejo> for what
[19:42] <sick_rimmit> for package sources etc... yes ?
[19:42] <sick_rimmit> or are we using both
[19:42] <sick_rimmit> yofel: Thank you..
[19:44] <clivejo> some might be still on bzr
[19:46] <yofel> sick_rimmit: I'll leave it running again, but I ocasionally reboot the host and don't automatically launch the container after that
[19:50] <sick_rimmit> yofel: Is there a cost to leaving it running ?
[19:50] <yofel> no
[19:51] <yofel> That's an LXD instance on my dedicated server
[19:51] <sick_rimmit> yofel: Sorry my publickey changed, last time I did dojo I mistakenly overwrote it. I just uploaded my new key to LP
[19:51] <yofel> sec
[19:51] <yofel> sick_rimmit: try now
[19:52] <sick_rimmit> yofel: I would like to use it for Dojo, and Packaging
[19:52] <yofel> go ahead
[19:52] <sick_rimmit> yofel: Brilliant, I have access thank you :-D
[20:00]  * acheronuk kicks LP where it hurts
[20:09]  * clivejo hi fives acheronuk
[20:15] <acheronuk> :) http://i.imgur.com/HWP34qI.png
[20:17] <clivejo> so it works?
[20:18] <acheronuk> seems to
[20:18] <clivejo> kmenuedit stil building
[20:18] <acheronuk> yes, I was impatient
[20:19] <clivejo> LOL
[20:20] <acheronuk> I'll run on this on 2 machines for now, see how it goes
[20:20] <clivejo> acheronuk: did you patch Qt 5.6.1?
[20:20] <acheronuk> for what? that regression? 
[20:21] <clivejo> security issue mentioned earlier
[20:21] <acheronuk> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt/qtdeclarative.git/commit/?id=33b3f7d5728bde68efafa7bfca311bcd223b624c
[20:22] <acheronuk> done in qtdeclarative 5.6.1-4, which I updated both YY and XX with earlier
[20:24] <clivejo> yofel: ping
[20:25] <yofel> hm?
[20:26] <clivejo> can I klear out frameworks staging and kopy in Qt 5.6.1 from Ricks PPA?
[20:29] <yofel> from my side: go ahead
[20:30] <clivejo> or is there another way?
[20:30] <clivejo> what would yofel do?
[20:30] <yofel> the same
[20:30] <clivejo> WWYD
[20:35]  * DarinMiller clivejo cracks me up
[20:36]  * clivejo thinks we should get t-shirt made
[20:37] <clivejo> Kubuntu Dojo on the front and WWYD on the back
[20:43] <clivejo> ok klearing frameworks
[20:51] <clivejo> kopy'ed Qt 5.6.1 to frameworks-staging
[20:52] <soee> o/
[20:59]  * acheronuk waits for the bang/crash
[21:01] <acheronuk> anyone who has left the frameworks-staging ppa enabled, BEWARE!
[21:09] <acheronuk> going to look for my polling card and say goodnight I think
[21:09] <acheronuk> yawn...
[21:12] <clivejo> beware indeed!
[21:12] <clivejo> could do boom!
[21:13] <clivejo> hows testing of Plasma 5.6.5 on Xenial going?
[21:16] <clivejo> soee: 
[21:17] <clivejo> soee: your up :P
[21:27] <soee> let me run Xenial machine and test
[21:27] <sick_rimmit> acheronuk: Good Night, I'll be voting in the morning too
[21:28] <sick_rimmit> Right thats me done for tonight, mostly ready for next weeks dojo
[21:28] <sick_rimmit> catch you guys later
[21:28] <sick_rimmit> ttfn
[21:46] <soee> clivejo: upgrading Xenial
[21:51] <soee> clivejo: all fine, not a single error
[21:51] <soee> +1 for moving to backports form my side
[21:51] <clivejo> need more testers
[21:52] <soee> valorie: ping
[21:54] <flexiondotorg> Hi, Ubuntu MATE lead here. Just wondering if Kubuntu are looking to participate in 16.10 Alpha1?
[21:55] <soee> yofel: ^
[21:55] <yofel> flexiondotorg: hi, and "no"
[21:56] <flexiondotorg> yofel, Thanks :-)
[21:57] <soee> yofel: are you able to test 5.6.5 for Xenial ?
[21:57] <yofel> in backports-landing? (not before friday evening though)
[21:57] <soee> yofel: plasma-staging
[21:58] <yofel> not interested in that :P
[21:58] <soee> :P
[21:58] <yofel> I'll do manual QA after all our auto-qa options are used up
[22:01] <clivejo> what happens on Friday evening?
[22:09] <yofel> I get home and can upgrade my desktop
[22:15] <clivejo> ah
[22:19] <yofel> the packages look fine though from a quick test, so put them in landing so we can release them over the weekend
[22:25] <soee> shal i ask for testers on G+ 
[22:25] <soee> ?
[22:25] <clivejo> only experienced testers
[22:26] <genii> Is there some timeline on this?
[22:28] <genii> I can test the 5.6.5 on Xenial 
[22:28] <genii> Yakkety testing I need to install it somewhere first
[22:29] <yofel> no timeline really, but no reason to delay it either
[22:29] <soee> genii: please do test on Xenial
[22:33] <genii> soee: Ok. Gimme some time to boot that box up and do updates. I'll let you know.
[22:34] <soee> thanks
[22:37] <genii> Have to go buy AA for mouse :(
[22:40] <soee> :)
[22:51] <goddard> in ubuntu 16.04 suspend doesn't work, but it worked in 14.04
[23:30] <genii> Meh soee timed out.
[23:31] <genii> yofel: Are there any other PPA I need as prerequisite before staging-plasma ?
[23:31] <yofel> clivejo: ^
[23:31] <clivejo> no
[23:31] <clivejo> frameworks are in there too
[23:31] <genii> OK
[23:37]  * genii examines his bellybutton lint as install things scroll by
[23:45] <genii> Pretty funky wallpaper
[23:54] <genii-testing> Ok, so About screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/QB0Bx91.jpg      I noticed after installing Quassel the "Type here" above Applications was unresponsive for about a minute. This is a pretty stock install. Anything specific I need to look at?
[23:59] <genii-testing> Every app when opening is fairly small on far bottom right, not sure if this is by design