[04:28] <ashabadi> hi annasha
[04:35] <tareq> hello ashabadi
[04:36] <tareq> ashabadi: need to discuss on few things with you
[04:44] <annasha> Hello ashabadi !
[04:45] <ashabadi> hello tareq
[04:45] <tareq> hello ashabadi
[04:45] <ashabadi> bad timing... leaving shortly for office
[04:45] <tareq> no problem
[04:45] <tareq> just tell me when you will get time
[04:45] <tareq> need to talk about loco team
[04:46] <ashabadi> ok
[04:46] <ashabadi> I'm not sure my office timing has changed due to system testing
[04:46] <tareq> tonight
[04:46] <ashabadi> I will be at office till 1am
[04:46] <ashabadi> after that not sure will be able to keep my head up
[04:47] <tareq> then another
[04:47] <tareq> time
[04:47] <ashabadi> this issue will continue till 2nd of July I guess
[04:47] <tareq> :(
[04:47] <ashabadi> if everything goes smothly
[04:48] <tareq> ok, RJ is busy
[04:48] <tareq> I've some free time till mid july
[04:48] <tareq> even i can manage more
[04:48] <ashabadi> ok
[04:48] <tareq> so would like to contribute loco team
[04:49] <tareq> if you agree than i can proceed
[04:50] <ashabadi> first get hold of Russell john
[04:50] <ashabadi> he has most of the admin access
[04:51] <ashabadi> and tareq  bhai you don't need anyones permission to work on loco... trust me
[04:52] <Researcher-> hi Ekushey
[04:52] <Researcher-> :)
[04:53] <ashabadi> I don't think Ekushey is here
[04:53] <ashabadi> its his bot
[04:53] <Researcher-> bot ? nick Ekushey is bot ?
[04:53] <QA> Researcher-: One learns a new thing every day
[04:54] <Researcher-> i know Ekushey since quite a long time and i think this is his bnc/psybnc/or znc but it is not a bot.
[04:55] <tareq> ok, I will make some roadplan; than discuss with Russel John bhai
[04:56] <tareq> Researcher-: Can you introduce yourself?
[04:57] <Guest44795> Well i am from Pakistan, and ubuntu enthusiast 
[04:58] <Researcher-> i work for loco team Pk 
[04:58] <Researcher-> and i am serving in I.T industry since 18 years 
[04:59] <tareq> Ohh, nice to meet you brother
[04:59] <Researcher-> mainly focusing into commercial servers hosting, industrial ERP's and applications of security. 
[04:59] <Researcher-> same here 
[04:59] <Researcher-> thank ou.
[04:59] <Researcher-> :)
[05:00] <Researcher-> but i am residing now at Muscat  Sultanate of Oman, 
[05:05] <ashabadi> guys I've to leave now
[05:06] <tareq> ok ashabadi
[05:06] <tareq> see you soon
[05:06] <ashabadi> Researcher-: Ekushey has configured his id so that it logs record of converstion when he is away
[05:06] <ashabadi> ok tareq good day
[05:09] <tareq> Researcher-: Can you give me some suggestions regarding LoCo team activities?
[05:09] <Researcher-> well
[05:10] <Researcher-> tareq it depends on the role 
[05:10] <tareq> like?
[05:11] <Researcher-> between let me know about your strong side .... are you good with technical side or management or administration etc ?
[05:18] <Researcher-> brb\
[06:02] <pavlushka> Hello every one!
[06:06] <Kilos> hi pavlushka and others
[06:07] <pavlushka> Kilos: using QIWI web client only because I love that bird, :p
[06:08] <Kilos> lol
[06:08] <Kilos> why  arent you in belkies channel
[06:09]  * pavlushka cant swear though
[06:12] <Kilos> pavlushka i mailed you
[06:13] <pavlushka> checking
[06:57] <RemonShai> এখানে login করা এতো ঝামেলা কেন?
[07:01] <pavlushka> hello RemonShai 
[07:06] <RemonShai> hello pavlushka ভাই...../
[07:07] <pavlushka> কেমন আছেন RemonShai !
[07:08] <RemonShai> আলহামদুলিল্লাহ্ ভাল আছি। আপনি কেমন আছেন?
[07:11] <pavlushka> Remonshai use any standalone IRC client, better that web clients in connection stability, :)
[07:12] <pavlushka> like Hexchat, quassel, konversation, or anything you like
[07:13] <pavlushka> RemonShai: you can get help here instantly, interactively
[07:13] <pavlushka> RemonShai: for you ubuntu system issues
[07:13] <RemonShai> নেট, কিছুক্ষণ পরপর discannect হচ্ছে।
[07:13] <RemonShai> পুরনো বার্তা গেল কই?
[07:14] <pavlushka> RemonShai: Hexchat, quassel, konversation, or anything you like are better than web-client like Qiwi that you are using right now, :p
[07:15] <RemonShai> ok.....
[07:19] <pavlushka> RemonShai: I am talking in respect to connection stability for IRC, :)
[07:21] <pavlushka> RemonShai: please check here https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/22/%23ubuntu-bd.txt
[07:21] <pavlushka> QA tell Jihad : please check here https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/22/%23ubuntu-bd.txt
[07:28] <Kilos> netsplit killed her
[07:29] <Kilos> see you later
[07:30] <pavlushka> QA tell Jihad : please check here https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/22/%23ubuntu-bd.txt
[07:30] <QA_> pavlushka: I don't know who Jihad is. Say 'Jihad on freenode' and I'll take your word that Jihad exists
[07:30] <pavlushka> QA tell Jihad on freenode : please check here https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/22/%23ubuntu-bd.txt
[07:30] <QA_> pavlushka: Got it, I'll tell Jihad on freenode
[07:58] <pavlushka> QA tell ashabadi that is he actually will do his office till 1 AM?
[07:58] <QA_> pavlushka: Righto, I'll tell ashabadi on freenode
[08:02] <pavlushka> QA tell AudaciousTUX that Qiwi is a great idea to attract people, impressed but very unstable for connection comparing to standalone IRC clients, :)
[08:02] <QA_> pavlushka: Righto, I'll tell AudaciousTUX on freenode
[12:25] <tareq> Hello all
[12:25] <AudaciousTUX> hello
[12:26] <tareq> how are you doing frans
[12:26] <AudaciousTUX> trying to make a better platform of sharing linux realated knowledge ^_^
[14:07] <pavlushka> Hello again everyone!
[15:01]  * Kilos returned but need to eat and drink before i can think straight again
[15:38] <ashabadi> hi Ekushey Kilos pavlushka Researcher-
[15:54] <Kilos> hi ashabadi_ 
[15:56] <pavlushka> Hello ashabadi_!
[15:56] <pavlushka> I was busy playing king of fighters, :p
[15:57] <ashabadi_> good
[15:57] <ashabadi_> atleast having a fun time
[15:57] <ashabadi_> our sytem UAT postponed till Friday
[15:57] <Kilos> ash
[15:57] <Kilos> ashabadi_ 
[15:57] <ashabadi_> so I will resume normal office day tomorrow
[15:57] <pavlushka> ashabadi_,  you said you will do office till 1 am, are you in the office still?
[15:57] <Kilos> pavlushka give him the info to apply for membership please
[15:58] <ashabadi_> no pavlushka our UAT got postponned till Friday
[15:58] <Kilos> he has worked for ubuntu for years'
[15:58] <pavlushka> Kilos, ashabadi_ is more informed than me, just ask him if he is interested.
[15:58] <Kilos> ashabadi_ ?
[15:58] <ashabadi_> I'm novice in everything..
[15:58] <ashabadi_> I know nothing :'(
[15:59] <Kilos> google ubuntu/membership/newmember
[15:59] <ashabadi_> Kilos: may I answer it 1/2 month's down the line? if that's not too late to decide
[15:59] <ashabadi_> sure kilos
[15:59] <Kilos> no but you can start getting all your info together for a wiki page
[16:00] <Kilos> wiki is under lockdown because of spammers
[16:00] <ashabadi_> ok Kilos I will do it but gradually
[16:00] <ashabadi_> really?
[16:00] <Kilos> so someone with edit rights will have to do it for you
[16:01] <Kilos> yes there is a concerted attack against ubuntu wiki
[16:01] <Kilos> whole gangs of spammers
[16:01] <ashabadi_> sad
[16:01] <pavlushka> ashabadi_,  ashabadi_ you have to be the member of ubuntu-etherpad to edit wiki
[16:01] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, on LP.
[16:01] <Kilos> that has been stopped too i think pavlushka 
[16:02] <Kilos> because some spammers got in that way
[16:02] <pavlushka> Kilos, :p, I can edit the wiki's
[16:02] <pavlushka> Kilos, I can do it for ashabadi as well, :p
[16:02] <Kilos> cool then you can make his wiki page for him
[16:02] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, you just have to mail me the details
[16:03] <Kilos> he must just get all his info together for you
[16:03] <ashabadi_> Kilos: I don't think I have links/photo for the contribution I made
[16:03] <pavlushka> Kilos, but who will write the testimonials for me?
[16:03] <Kilos> sad such and old hard working member never was pushed to get membership
[16:03] <pavlushka> If ther'e anyone?
[16:03] <ashabadi_> its all lost in the wild world web
[16:04] <ashabadi_> Kilos: I got busy with my work when the momentum died for Ubuntu loco in BD
[16:04] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, mine lost outside the wild world web, :p
[16:04] <Kilos> pavlushka that you get from the people you have helped and i will give a dhort one for your helping me and ask xubuntu guys too
[16:05] <Kilos> i will also ask belkie to give you one pavlushka 
[16:05] <pavlushka> Kilos, they are lazy enough to switch to Windows just flashing pc when I was not there, all lost , almost.
[16:06] <Kilos> oh my
[16:06] <Kilos> and back to windows?
[16:06] <pavlushka> Kilos, why not? forget it.
[16:06] <Kilos> forget what?
[16:06] <pavlushka> I started all over again, :p
[16:06] <Kilos> your membership
[16:07] <pavlushka> Kilos, you keep it, :p
[16:07] <Kilos> keep what?
[16:07] <pavlushka> Kilos, i am okay with you guys.
[16:08] <Kilos> ive been here for months because you werent supported and ill help you get yours
[16:08] <Kilos> and ashabadi_ should get his
[16:09] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, its never a problem, I wiil sign a testimonial for you and you just have to breif about you as an Ubuntu user and..
[16:09] <Kilos> if it takes 6 months thats fine ashabadi_ 
[16:09] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, it will count, trust me, I am not that uselessm :p
[16:09] <Kilos> he has done much more than i did
[16:10] <Kilos> Researcher- is another one
[16:10] <ashabadi_> pavlushka: I never said you are useless
[16:10] <Kilos> even though he isnt in asia anymore
[16:10] <ashabadi_> your launchpad tells much more :)
[16:10] <Kilos> hi tareq_ 
[16:11] <tareq_> hi Kilos
[16:11] <ashabadi_> hello tareq_
[16:11] <ashabadi_> I guess you had prayed that I will be here online, instead of office
[16:12] <Kilos> lol
[16:12] <tareq_> lol
[16:12] <tareq_> I've posted in the group
[16:13] <pavlushka> tareq_,  noticed, nice and helpful with visu als
[16:13] <pavlushka> *visuals
[16:13] <ashabadi_> I've not seen it
[16:13] <ashabadi_> will check it :)
[16:14] <pavlushka> H AudaciousTUX!
[16:14] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, your plan worked but you were not there to watch it, :p
[16:16] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, and instead they befriended me, :p
[16:16] <Kilos> lol
[16:18] <pavlushka> দগদ
[16:18] <pavlushka> lol
[16:18] <AudaciousTUX> where?? i was not here....
[16:18] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, arouund noon and afternoon
[16:19] <AudaciousTUX> uh... in irc??
[16:19] <pavlushka> yep
[16:19] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, got my message?
[16:19] <pavlushka> from QA
[16:19] <AudaciousTUX> yah
[16:19] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, but to start, it is perfect, :)
[16:21] <AudaciousTUX> yah.... many lazy people like me won't install irc client before they know what the hell this is
[16:22] <ashabadi_> sorry guys I'm a bit lost
[16:22] <pavlushka> Actually I am here all because of my Canon scanner was not working in linux, :p
[16:22] <ashabadi_> if you don't mind a bit tired, having a rough two days
[16:22] <Kilos> rest ashabadi_ 
[16:22] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, sure, its always nice to have you here, :p and even nicer when you leave, :p
[16:23] <Kilos> lol
[16:23] <Kilos> no man people must only leave when they go sleep
[16:23] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, I am lying about the 2nd part, :)
[16:24] <ashabadi_> Kilos: I like to be here
[16:24] <ashabadi_> now people are talking
[16:24] <ashabadi_> that's why staying
[16:24] <Kilos> great ashabadi_ 
[16:24] <ashabadi_> if it was dead none talking then I would have left
[16:24] <ashabadi_> btw having highs and lows last two days...
[16:24] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, but before going to sleep,please lose your tail, :p
[16:25] <Kilos> without irc users cannot even apply for membership
[16:25] <ashabadi_> was detained by police yesterday and today got awarded by CEO Bangladesh for top achiever team :P
[16:25] <Kilos> ubuntu was built on irc
[16:25] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, you can check the logs to be sure, :p
[16:26] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, Congrats for both, :p
[16:26] <Kilos> why detained
[16:26] <pavlushka> Kilos, I guess late night, and what happens in BD stays in BD, :p
[16:27] <Kilos> haha
[16:27] <ashabadi_> no pavlushka not late night, it was 8.30 am 
[16:28] <ashabadi_> was detained for taking photograph of police member taking a rest & talking on phone
[16:28] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, yep, that came to my mind as second, must be some other reason, may be just for harrasment, or bribe.
[16:28] <Kilos> congrats on top achiever ashabadi_ :D
[16:28] <Kilos> hahaha you guys get arrested easy hey
[16:29] <pavlushka> ashabadi, you rock bro.
[16:29] <ashabadi> actually Kilos we are sort of silent emergency right now
[16:29] <ashabadi> no media will say we are on nationwide emergency but we are
[16:29] <Kilos> ah troubled state same as here
[16:30] <ashabadi> they thought I was terrorist and taking picture of police...
[16:30] <pavlushka> Kilos, what's the update on that?
[16:30] <Kilos> there are siilar probs world wide
[16:30] <Kilos> similar
[16:31] <Kilos> guys in tunisia wont use telegram because isis used it when they blew up some places
[16:31] <ashabadi> was almost booked as terrorist, got released because one of my friend is high official in Bogra Police... and I had to involve my office to get me released
[16:31] <pavlushka> ashabadi, you still rock , yo yo
[16:31] <AudaciousTUX> i wonder why isis don't use irc :(
[16:31] <pavlushka> ashabadi, that's awesome....
[16:31] <Kilos> telegram is more secure
[16:31] <ashabadi> lol pavlushka.. up until 1pm I rocked, but when I was told I will be booked as terrorist I was not rocking anymore
[16:32] <AudaciousTUX> yah.... 
[16:32] <pavlushka> ashabadi, I was double checked as terro rist suspect but wasn't that lucky, :p
[16:32] <ashabadi> really so you got booked and released?
[16:32] <ashabadi> I should be careful talking to you now on irc :P
[16:33] <ashabadi> even this channel has log system :P
[16:33] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:33] <pavlushka> ashabadi, nah, not as lucky as you, I was released just after checking, :(
[16:34] <ashabadi> just after checking?
[16:34] <ashabadi> that means how many days you were detained?
[16:34] <ashabadi> you mean the other way around? you are not detained at all
[16:35] <pavlushka> nah, I was checked on the spot, its nothing.
[16:35] <ashabadi> hmm
[16:36] <pavlushka> there was some information of happenening something may be, so they were extra alert, and when they check , htey notice the expressions, I was happy.
[16:36] <pavlushka> lol
[16:37] <pavlushka> what? it wasn't that funny?
[16:38] <pavlushka> ok, not lol.
[16:38] <ashabadi> :)
[16:38] <ashabadi> yes it is
[16:38] <pavlushka> going for dinner, anyone else?
[16:38] <ashabadi> I hope you don't have beard though
[16:38] <ashabadi> and dont ride bike in number of 3 :)
[16:38] <pavlushka> ashabadi, unfortunately I do, :p
[16:39] <ashabadi> out of real concern
[16:39] <pavlushka> ashabadi, dont worry, when I'll ride, the 3rd one will drop off, :p
[16:40] <pavlushka> I even dropped the 2nd!
[16:40] <ashabadi> lol
[16:40] <ashabadi> :P
[16:52] <pavlushka> Hello NaSb
[16:53] <Kilos> hi NaSb 
[16:53] <Kilos> i go eat in 5 mins
[16:53] <NaSb> pavlushka Kilos Hi, 
[16:53] <NaSb> AudaciousTUX: Ping
[16:53] <pavlushka> NaSb, আস্সালামু আলাইকুম
[16:54] <ashabadi> btw pavlushka Kilos dont forget to offer membership scope to tareq_ as well
[16:54] <NaSb> pavlushka : ওয়া আলাইকুমুস সালাম :)
[16:54] <AudaciousTUX> hei sabbir vau
[16:54] <ashabadi> he had been contributing in the community areana for a bit period of time
[16:54] <NaSb> AudaciousTUX অনেক বছর পর পাইলাম
[16:54] <ashabadi> specially with documentation & trouble shooting to newbees
[16:54]  * pavlushka laughs
[16:54] <AudaciousTUX> amito shorbodai thaki :/
[16:55] <Kilos> pavlushka you have applied once, you know the ropes, you all get together and work on wiki pages and LP accounts
[16:55] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, কইসে?
[16:55] <AudaciousTUX> eita korlen kemne :o pavlushka
[16:55] <NaSb> AudaciousTUX: হাহ্ কয়েকদিন ধইরা, সেটা আমি আর pavlushka ভাই জানি :p
[16:55] <ashabadi> AudaciousTUX: type /me your message
[16:55] <AudaciousTUX> :/
[16:55]  * ashabadi teaches AudaciousTUX how to use me
[16:55] <pavlushka> NaSb, actually AudaciousTUX is an old customer of here
[16:55]  * AudaciousTUX hello
[16:56] <AudaciousTUX> wow
[16:56] <ashabadi> normally it would be
[16:56]  * ashabadi says hello
[16:56] <ashabadi> :P
[16:56] <AudaciousTUX> yah... older than nasb
[16:56] <AudaciousTUX> oh :p
[16:56] <NaSb> pavlushka আমি জানি
[16:57] <pavlushka> and AudaciousTUX is in love with Nusha I guess
[16:57] <AudaciousTUX> yah <3
[16:57] <pavlushka> NaSb, but not regular as it seems, right?
[16:59] <AudaciousTUX> nasb er to kono activity e dekhina :3
[16:59] <pavlushka> Kilos, got you, tareq_ bhai, you just mail me your details, It was belkinsa who helped me on this at the first time, :)
[17:00] <NaSb> AudaciousTUX কি একটিভিটি দেখতে চান?
[17:00] <ashabadi> tareq_: is here? I think he is away
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:00] <Kilos> be good
[17:00] <ashabadi> ok Kilos be back soon
[17:01] <AudaciousTUX> dance @nasb
[17:01] <pavlushka> belkinsa and Kilos put me together to appear in the meeting, otherwise I would not face that meeting, speaking my mind.
[17:02] <ashabadi> tareq_:  if you come please do knock me if I'm not asleep
[17:03] <ashabadi> pavlushka: AudaciousTUX tareq_ would like to discuss about path of loco activity in short on how we want to progress
[17:03] <pavlushka> ashabadi, sure, looking forward, :0
[17:04] <pavlushka> :)
[17:04] <ashabadi> let tareq_ come
[17:04] <tareq_> here I am
[17:04] <ashabadi> either tareq_ comes first or I go to sleep
[17:04] <ashabadi> which ever comes first
[17:04] <ashabadi> since tareq_ is here..
[17:04] <tareq_> what was the topic 
[17:05] <ashabadi> nothing tareq_ an informal discussion regarding reviving loco?
[17:05] <tareq_> loco is not active right now
[17:05] <ashabadi> Ekushey:
[17:05] <ashabadi> yes I know tareq_
[17:05] <ashabadi> from my past experience I want to discuss why our loco team died
[17:05] <tareq_> I have a soft corner for this community
[17:06] <tareq_> you can
[17:06] <ashabadi> mainly 2 issue... 1) we did not have enough technical hand available to provide solution at the first instant people came for support
[17:06] <tareq_> okay
[17:07] <pavlushka> ashabadi, and ?
[17:07] <ashabadi> 2) we did not have structured work manner with regard to mailing list management/event management
[17:08] <ashabadi> also the control of community was not at hand of community itself... its sad that we failed to create enough volunteers/leaders who will take over in absence of any of the leaders/voluteers
[17:08] <AudaciousTUX> and maybe 3rd ... community venge geche... 
[17:08] <ashabadi> the community died because Linux forum was shut down
[17:08] <tareq_> come on
[17:08] <ashabadi> I wonder why we could not create another linux forum?
[17:08] <ashabadi> what stop us?
[17:09] <AudaciousTUX> i'm currently working on the same thing
[17:09] <ashabadi> community fraction could have been managed if we were working in a structured way
[17:09] <AudaciousTUX> i was talking about this....
[17:09] <ashabadi> AudaciousTUX: working on linux forum?
[17:09] <AudaciousTUX> iah
[17:09] <AudaciousTUX> yah*
[17:09] <ashabadi> I think before working on linux forum we need to work on documentation site
[17:10] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, we live to rise,
[17:10] <tareq_> we need a structure
[17:10] <tareq_> that is true
[17:10] <AudaciousTUX> documentation like arch wiki??
[17:10] <ashabadi> I think the facebook page is quite active... we shall target on documenting the problems people post & their solution on different site
[17:10] <ashabadi> that is searchable
[17:10] <ashabadi> it could be forum/ it could be website
[17:10] <pavlushka> tareq_,  agrred
[17:10] <ashabadi> and yes website is a must..
[17:11] <ashabadi> since I bought hosting for my personal blog I can assign hosting space
[17:11] <pavlushka> ashabadi, point
[17:11] <ashabadi> its not an issue
[17:11] <AudaciousTUX> helping in fb group is not much practical...
[17:11] <tareq_> i think it is high time to reassign the team
[17:11] <AudaciousTUX> yah
[17:11] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX,  yep, same question, same problem again and agian
[17:11] <AudaciousTUX> yah
[17:11] <ashabadi> to get structured we can work on the basic guideline that tareq_ set
[17:12] <ashabadi> atleast first point to meet in irc
[17:12] <pavlushka> ashabadi, agreed
[17:12] <tareq_> we need to meet regularly
[17:12] <AudaciousTUX> for example the font problem... i'm so much tired that i've made a blog in my own website...
[17:12] <ashabadi> also I would reutter the importance of meeting face to facce
[17:12] <ashabadi> even if not to discuss program event, atleast to build bonding
[17:12] <tareq_> i have an idea
[17:12] <AudaciousTUX> adnan sir's ubuntu installation blog is quite old... and has some bugs
[17:12] <pavlushka> better.
[17:12] <ashabadi> so that disagreements/fractions can be managed as friend
[17:13] <tareq_> we can meet at different places
[17:13] <AudaciousTUX> and fb group is now bunded with only ubuntu and derivatives.... 
[17:13] <tareq_> like different corners of city
[17:13] <AudaciousTUX> yah
[17:13] <pavlushka> issues for me as i m from panchagarh, :(
[17:14] <tareq_> dhanmondi, uttara, gulshan, puran dhaka etc
[17:14] <ashabadi> AudaciousTUX: we have to start working on one derivative first
[17:14] <ashabadi> we can't have expert in all the distro
[17:14] <pavlushka> ashabadi, point
[17:14] <tareq_> so that everybody can meet
[17:14] <ashabadi> pavlushka: that's not an issue... you can arrange friends to meet there too
[17:14] <AudaciousTUX> they're all same in end...
[17:15] <ashabadi> tareq_: I'm not talking about buntu/mintu adda or anything formalised
[17:15] <ashabadi> it should be informal
[17:15] <ashabadi> just to hang out
[17:15] <AudaciousTUX> yah
[17:15] <tareq_> yea
[17:15] <ashabadi> if you can give time to people interested in Ubuntu
[17:15] <AudaciousTUX> in a open place
[17:15] <pavlushka> ashabadi, but I have been to the 16.04 release party arranged by FOSS
[17:15] <ashabadi> then you can give time to volunteer
[17:15] <ashabadi> great pavlushka :)
[17:15] <tareq_> my preference towards
[17:15] <AudaciousTUX> u was there?? pav
[17:16] <tareq_> ubuntu
[17:16] <tareq_> we have enough idea on that
[17:16] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, yes, and you were supposed be there too, as you were mentioned
[17:17] <AudaciousTUX> i attended bdosn party and that was too much boring... 
[17:17] <ashabadi> I don't want to focus our loco activity around arranging release parties/awareness program anymore
[17:17] <ashabadi> rather on creating experts & documentation
[17:17] <AudaciousTUX> and i had coaching
[17:17] <tareq_> we should be open minded, but I don't know much about other distros like centos, gentoo
[17:17] <pavlushka> ashabadi, just for the record,
[17:18] <tareq_> ashabadi: your idea is great
[17:18] <AudaciousTUX> me too.... only used antergos, mint, ubuntu derivatives
[17:18] <tareq_> we need more experts
[17:18] <ashabadi> if we have enough expert to help people at the first instance of trouble or documents to share to new bees for to resolve their problems then it would be easier to convert people to linux
[17:18] <pavlushka> tareq_, why not what ashabadi is awarded for then?
[17:19] <ashabadi> ?? did not get what pavlushka said?
[17:19] <tareq_> ??
[17:20] <pavlushka> ashabadi, 's idea's are good as tareq_ said, I said of course, he is awarded as the best CEO I guess
[17:20] <ashabadi> best ceo?
[17:20] <ashabadi> I'm not a company head
[17:20] <ashabadi> I said my team was awarded as top contributor by country ceo :P
[17:20] <ashabadi> I might have typed wrong
[17:21] <AudaciousTUX> i'm coming in 5 min
[17:21] <ashabadi> I was saying that cause how people's live change from low to high & high to low
[17:21] <ashabadi> it has nothing to do with what I'm discussing
[17:21] <tareq_> i would like to contribute in documentation
[17:22] <tareq_> my comfort zone :)
[17:22] <ashabadi> and it is not something I want to boost on/or promote on
[17:22] <ashabadi> sure tareq_ we need more hand in documentation
[17:23] <ashabadi> as I said we need volunteers in every field
[17:23] <tareq_> ashabadi: what is your suggestion on survey
[17:23] <ashabadi> tareq_: it can be done in second phase when we have enough volunteers
[17:23] <tareq_> I'm not that much specialist but I know enough to help noobs
[17:24] <tareq_> technological parts
[17:24] <ashabadi> currently how many volunteers we have to tell the truth?
[17:24] <ashabadi> I don't see more than 5 hands
[17:24] <tareq_> make a number
[17:24] <tareq_> you, me we are from old days
[17:25] <tareq_> what about new bloods
[17:25] <ashabadi> AudaciousTUX: Ekushey adnan pavlushka tareq_ raihan
[17:25] <AudaciousTUX> their are more
[17:25] <ashabadi> among them Ekushey & adnan can give time online only
[17:26] <AudaciousTUX> there*
[17:26] <ashabadi> that leaves only 3 member... how far do you think we can go if we can't have volunteers?
[17:26] <tareq_> I can meet with adnan bhai in person
[17:26] <ashabadi> sure AudaciousTUX I would like to get them involved
[17:26] <tareq_> all of them are not fond of IRC
[17:27] <ashabadi> tareq_: to tell the truth even if we meet to hold discussion fact is we are too busy with other stuff that we can't contribute actively
[17:27] <AudaciousTUX> yah... that's the problem
[17:27] <ashabadi> I have talked with Adnan bhai long regarding this
[17:27] <AudaciousTUX> and i'm working on that too.... :p
[17:27] <ashabadi> I know he can't contribute personally, even on fridays
[17:27] <tareq_> ahh, research and family
[17:27] <ashabadi> AudaciousTUX: working silently won't give much result
[17:28] <ashabadi> you may think you have all of it under control/under plan but it can all go awry
[17:28] <AudaciousTUX> talking about me or other??
[17:28] <ashabadi> anyway please do share your plan AudaciousTUX on how you plan you have experts & volunteers
[17:29] <ashabadi> I'm talking about you AudaciousTUX
[17:29] <AudaciousTUX> i don't even have any prototype to show now.... 
[17:29] <ashabadi> working silently on linux forum/and creating volunteer group
[17:29] <ashabadi> lol AudaciousTUX don't think it too complex
[17:29] <tareq_> just think
[17:29] <ashabadi> you don't even know whether people will be interested or not in another linux forum or not
[17:30] <AudaciousTUX> not to complex.... just inspired by the techtunes policy
[17:30] <tareq_> forum is not a good idea
[17:30] <ashabadi> so don't give much effort in something that you don't know will work or not
[17:30] <tareq_> 2nd life of LIFO was flop
[17:30] <ashabadi> I don't even know lifo had 2nd life :P
[17:30] <AudaciousTUX> russel vai ruined all lifo data... -_-
[17:30] <tareq_> facebook is a great place to gather people
[17:31] <tareq_> 12k+ in one group
[17:31] <tareq_> can you imagine
[17:31] <tareq_> but <10 persons are active
[17:31] <ashabadi> tareq_: why don't you put a post in that you need volunteers to copy facebook contents to a blog post
[17:31] <tareq_> most of them are inactive
[17:31] <AudaciousTUX> i'm working on blog.... russel vai er kotha shuina forum er kaj bondho rakhchi
[17:32] <ashabadi> I don't think you will find much people in reality helping out
[17:32] <ashabadi> many will show interest at first but will remain silent when you need them most
[17:32] <tareq_> very much true
[17:32] <ashabadi> AudaciousTUX: if you are building blog then why you are making it too complex?
[17:33] <ashabadi> just open a blog in wordpress/joomla
[17:33] <ashabadi> enable posting by users & have the contents reviewed/approved by one of the admins
[17:33] <ashabadi> its that simple
[17:33] <ashabadi> don't think too complex of a site
[17:33] <ashabadi> don't think of techtune brother
[17:34] <ashabadi> techtune is a joke to many people now a days
[17:34] <tareq_> lol
[17:34] <tareq_> dhekitune
[17:34] <AudaciousTUX> there 're too many blog sites.... i'm just making a platform whwere everyone can submit their blog.... create series of blogs..... and if the blog quality looks fine than take that to a new category
[17:34] <tareq_> wordpress blog is enough
[17:35] <ashabadi> people can do that in single blog too
[17:35] <AudaciousTUX> techtunes e onek faul faul blog content ache.... content management ta thik moto kora lagbe
[17:35] <AudaciousTUX> not in one place
[17:35] <ashabadi> that's what I am saying
[17:35] <ashabadi> you can arrange blog post by category
[17:35] <AudaciousTUX> i'm working on wordpress
[17:35] <ashabadi> even in simple wordpress
[17:36] <ashabadi> so you don't have to think about techtune
[17:36] <AudaciousTUX> i'm just making a good theme for that.... and series post can be helpful
[17:36] <tareq_> brb
[17:37] <ashabadi> ok AudaciousTUX best of luck :)
[17:38] <ashabadi> so once we have that contributor site we can start working on the content building
[17:38] <pavlushka> ashabadi, so what you were saying?
[17:38] <pavlushka> ok
[17:38] <ashabadi> we will need volunteers to contribute the blog with solutions
[17:38] <pavlushka> copy
[17:38] <ashabadi> even copy paste from facebook it self
[17:39] <ashabadi> our primary concern is build a database in Bangla
[17:39] <ashabadi> when we have a large content database then we will move on creating new users
[17:40] <AudaciousTUX> russel vai told me about english blog .... he's tired of bangalis "nemokharami" :p :v
[17:40] <ashabadi> unless people are given solution to their problem readily they won't stick to linux they will go back to windows
[17:41] <ashabadi> now a days I am even impatient to fix my problems in linux
[17:41] <ashabadi> I just install different application
[17:41] <ashabadi> even till now I've not managed to work on kmail
[17:41] <pavlushka> hmm
[17:41] <ashabadi> I've installed thunderbird
[17:41] <ashabadi> because I'm lazy and searching for 3 hours did not give me proper resolution
[17:41]  * pavlushka :p
[17:42] <ashabadi> if I were a new user I would have moved to windows and to outlook
[17:42] <ashabadi> even for thunderbird I needed 2 days trying to configure pop3
[17:42] <ashabadi> I failed
[17:43] <ashabadi> and am using imap
[17:43] <pavlushka> ashabadi, imap is better
[17:43] <ashabadi> I needed backup of my emails in my local pc
[17:43] <ashabadi> imap does not download email automatically
[17:44] <pavlushka> ashabadi, not every free mail server supports pop3 also.
[17:44] <ashabadi> atleast google does
[17:44] <ashabadi> google pop3 did not configure in thunderbird
[17:44] <pavlushka> ashabadi,  they will let you when you pay.
[17:44] <pavlushka> hmm
[17:45] <Kilos> i have mail accounts at yahoo gmail live.com and all work on thunderbird with pop
[17:45] <ashabadi> I had worked with pop earlier in 2010 with google
[17:45] <Kilos> you missing some simple thing ashabadi 
[17:45] <ashabadi> so I don't know whether they have switched policy or not
[17:46] <ashabadi> yes Kilos?
[17:46] <Kilos> i have 2 google accounts and both work
[17:46] <AudaciousTUX> brb
[17:46] <ashabadi> hmm Kilos don't know I followed every steps I could found googling
[17:46] <ashabadi> and they are not tough to configure as far as I can remember from 2010
[17:46] <Kilos> maybe there is a #thunderbird channel where they have experts
[17:46] <ashabadi> but they did not authenticate
[17:46] <pavlushka> one thing,  I use Imap settings and when I am offline, I can open the downloaded mails, so its there on the disk.
[17:47] <ashabadi> I have given up trying Kilos
[17:47] <Kilos> yeah spending time struggling is frustrating
[17:47] <ashabadi> pavlushka: you have to download the email first manually selecting the email
[17:47] <ashabadi> then it will show contents offline
[17:48] <ashabadi> its not downloaded automatically when email is sent to your primary gmail account
[17:48] <pavlushka> ashabadi, yes, I choose that intentionally for my disk space, 
[17:48] <ashabadi> anyway that's another topic
[17:48] <ashabadi> as I was saying, build a content database
[17:49] <ashabadi> that you can easily refer to people for problem solving
[17:49] <ashabadi> just like we did earlier with apro & lifo
[17:49] <pavlushka> I open which are important, or of use, and they remain in the disk, I dont need all I think.
[17:49] <pavlushka> ashabadi, ok, keep going.
[17:49] <pavlushka> on what you were saying
[17:50] <ashabadi> so it is easier for new members
[17:50] <ashabadi> and they don't think that they have to google for hours or wait for experts to reply to their posts
[17:50] <ashabadi> queries
[17:50] <pavlushka> hmm
[17:51] <ashabadi> and then we can have volunteers staying in irc too helping member find solution in content database
[17:51] <ashabadi> since they are helping with same issue over and over
[17:51] <ashabadi> they will get acquinted with the content
[17:51] <ashabadi> also we will have to steal from #ubuntu channel
[17:51] <ashabadi> :P
[17:52] <ashabadi> even if we don't have answer to the problem we will ask the same query to ubuntu channel
[17:52] <ashabadi> on behalf of he people who is facing problem
[17:52] <pavlushka> ashabadi, the point is if they got what they need from the portal, why would they come here on irc?
[17:52] <ashabadi> to make it look like we are actually finding the answer for them
[17:53] <ashabadi> theoratically you can't have wikipedia of all the problems people can have
[17:53] <ashabadi> there will be problems that people are facing for the first time and not in the content
[17:53] <pavlushka> ashabadi, yes, that's the point, taken humbly.
[17:54] <ashabadi> for that we will need to have experts here in IRC
[17:54] <ashabadi> thats where my point come in as stealing answer from #ubuntu channel
[17:54] <tareq_> some problems are weird
[17:54] <tareq_> all are not common problems
[17:55] <ashabadi> if you send away member asking help in #ubuntu-bd channel that you don't know the solution go ask in #ubuntu channel then why people will remain in #ubuntu-bd channel? they may rather remain in #ubuntu channel
[17:56] <ashabadi> that's my two priority right now
[17:56] <ashabadi> you may think otherwise
[17:56] <Kilos> wise move
[17:56] <ashabadi> and discussions are always welcome to improve the loco community
[17:57] <ashabadi> I'm not interested in creating new users via so called release party (which is in fact has turned into promotional event rather than release party)
[17:57] <ashabadi> unless I have option to provide solution to the new users
[17:57] <ashabadi> just like any tech company
[17:58] <ashabadi> if I don't have experts to provide support/service to the clients, clients won't remain with my service and they will bad mouth give poor rating to my company and leave for competitor product
[17:58] <tareq_> we can provide certificate based courses
[17:58] <ashabadi> we cant do that for free
[17:59] <ashabadi> I don't want to walk in a path that will tell people we are in a business of making money
[17:59] <tareq_> yea, even buet taking money for ubuntu course
[18:00] <ashabadi> and there are limited scope in teaching ubuntu certified experts...
[18:00] <pavlushka_>  ashabadi, ok, the idea is to minimize the hassel, and for the rest to solve, there's  #ubuntu-bd or #ubuntu
[18:00] <ashabadi> we can have RHCE because company understand this certificate only... how many company understand ubuntu certified expert?
[18:01] <ashabadi> pavlushka_: the idea is to give the community a face
[18:01] <ashabadi> an entity
[18:01] <pavlushka_> ashabadi, #ubuntu-bd is necessary to keep the official LoCO stucture? its another reason we should keep in mind I guess.
[18:01] <ashabadi> like we are live community, we have website we have content database, we have active volunteers
[18:01] <ashabadi> please stay with our product
[18:01] <ashabadi> :P
[18:02] <tareq_> website is down, what about that
[18:02] <ashabadi> pavlushka_:  I'm not saying that we should move to #ubuntu
[18:02] <ashabadi> I am saying keep the person who is asking for solution in #ubuntu-bd channel and repeat same problem/query in #ubuntu channel on behalf of the original person
[18:03] <ashabadi> and once you get solution in #ubuntu channel repeat the solution in #ubuntu-bd channel
[18:03] <ashabadi> as if you are giving solution from experts from #ubuntu-bd channel
[18:03] <tareq_> and we shoul keep this in docs
[18:03] <pavlushka> ashabadi, yes
[18:03] <pavlushka> :পি
[18:03] <ashabadi> yes
[18:04] <ashabadi> and all problem/ssolution we have will need documentation
[18:04] <pavlushka> tareq_, it will go up soon
[18:04] <ashabadi> I think log is there to help
[18:04] <ashabadi> we will only need some effort with formatting
[18:04] <ashabadi> :P
[18:04] <ashabadi> proof reading & cleaning
[18:04] <pavlushka> yes
[18:04] <ashabadi> give it a face... that's only thing I am saying
[18:04] <tareq_> i'm thinking about vblog
[18:05] <pavlushka> we will check on logs to extract new issues and keep trac
[18:05] <ashabadi> if we can show people that its a lively community then people will stay here
[18:05] <ashabadi> just like people are staying on facebook group
[18:05] <tareq_> irc is not populer platform yet
[18:05] <ashabadi> I don't even like irc to be frank
[18:06] <tareq_> lol
[18:06] <ashabadi> irc does not have any way to show screenshot
[18:06] <ashabadi> to provide command output
[18:06] <tareq_> but where to discuss?
[18:06] <pavlushka> yeah, we have people like ashabadi, AudaciousTUX, and tareq_
[18:06] <pavlushka> sorry
[18:06] <pavlushka> there is way
[18:06] <tareq_> hangout?
[18:06] <tareq_> forum?
[18:07] <ashabadi> sure pavlushka tell me?
[18:08] <pavlushka> paste.ubuntu for logs
[18:08] <pavlushka> imgur for sceenshots
[18:08] <pavlushka> its official
[18:08] <ashabadi> tareq_: we can still provide solution in facebook
[18:08] <pavlushka> and give the link to us, we will check on it and give solution, 
[18:08] <ashabadi> pavlushka: you will go to two different site but will an average user do it?
[18:08] <ashabadi> I know I will not do it
[18:09] <ashabadi> I know pavlushka of those method
[18:09] <ashabadi> but are they user friendly? are they enough to keep the people on irc?
[18:09] <pavlushka> tareq_, and to discuss, irc is best, the decisions of Ubuntu takes place on #ubuntu-meeting,
[18:09] <pavlushka> so why not  for us in here at #ubuntu-bd
[18:09] <ashabadi> they are discussions, not problem solvings
[18:10] <tareq_> facebook is very good platform, honestly saying
[18:10] <ashabadi> irc is dying for a reason
[18:10] <ashabadi> we will still have our discussion here
[18:10] <tareq_> yes
[18:11] <tareq_> even in telegram
[18:11] <ashabadi> irc will be base for planning/discussions/gossiping
[18:11] <pavlushka> ashabadi, but a fact is irc is strong in europe!
[18:11] <pavlushka> look at #ubuntu-de
[18:12] <tareq_> whatever it is, I'm with ashabadi
[18:12] <tareq_> irc is good for us, but not for all
[18:12] <tareq_> for common guys, facebook is enough
[18:13] <pavlushka> :)
[18:13] <pavlushka> me too.
[18:13] <pavlushka> tareq_, agreed
[18:13] <tareq_> i like both
[18:13] <tareq_> after the long gap, telegram plays a role to bring me back
[18:14] <ashabadi> pavlushka: do you know how many problems are solved in #ubuntu channel in last day?
[18:15] <pavlushka> ashabadi, I am not differring much, just dont get pissed off, sorry
[18:15] <tareq_> no idea
[18:15] <ashabadi> I'm not pissed off... I am just stating the fact
[18:15] <pavlushka> ashabadi, I can tell you checking the logs, My few problem solved in #ubuntu
[18:17] <pavlushka> and I even help in #xubuntu
[18:17] <ashabadi> good pavlushka cause I dont see much of problem solved in #kubuntu channel
[18:17] <ashabadi> its sleeping just like #ubuntu-bd channel
[18:17] <pavlushka> ashabadi, yes, that is a specific case, I am there too.
[18:17] <ashabadi> anyway..
[18:18] <ashabadi> we can still have irc as base
[18:18] <ashabadi> we can invite people to hang out
[18:18] <ashabadi> to gossip
[18:18] <pavlushka> ashabadi, please go ahead, dont mind me.
[18:18] <ashabadi> hell we can have fun interview over here on irc
[18:18] <tareq_> yes
[18:18] <pavlushka> ok
[18:19] <ashabadi> I remember we had few such sessions in #ubuntu-loco channel
[18:19] <pavlushka> aha
[18:19] <tareq_> old days
[18:19] <ashabadi> :)
[18:20] <ashabadi> anyway lets start working on base website
[18:20]  * pavlushka to arms for base website
[18:21] <ashabadi> why don't you guys plan/sketch the design outline for base website?
[18:21] <ashabadi> you can take idea from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BangladeshiTeam 
[18:22] <ashabadi> you can make different pages for each of the segments/links
[18:22] <ashabadi> any way you like
[18:22] <pavlushka> ashabadi, we will add our idea's , you finalize it, the decision is uyours
[18:22] <ashabadi> then once its finalised launch it
[18:22] <pavlushka> *yours
[18:23] <tareq_> www.ubuntu-bd.org
[18:23] <ashabadi> pavlushka: community wont grow if you can't take decision yourself
[18:23] <pavlushka>  tareq_ bhai , what do you say?
[18:23] <tareq_> I think we can start with a common wordpress blog
[18:23] <ashabadi> if we remain stagnent just because I did not reply to your query or Ekushey did not answer you how will community grow?
[18:23] <ashabadi> you have to take decisions yourselves after a common discussion :)
[18:24] <tareq_> we have to be respectful with each other
[18:24] <tareq_> I did the same thing 
[18:24] <tareq_> posted my plan :P
[18:24] <ashabadi> I am not saying you disrespect other's importance or other's idea or opinion
[18:24] <ashabadi> just keep the momentum grow
[18:25] <pavlushka> ashabadi, copu that
[18:25] <pavlushka> copy that
[18:25] <ashabadi> if you create enough ripple then tide will grow
[18:25] <tareq_> yes, but for some reason you need modu
[18:25]  * Kilos happy. action in bd
[18:25] <ashabadi> you dont need modu for creating a blog
[18:25] <ashabadi> or face
[18:25] <ashabadi> you can do it yourself
[18:26] <ashabadi> ofcourse you may need approval/help from moderator/admin to make it official
[18:26] <tareq_> but you know all users are not suitable for the blog post
[18:26] <pavlushka> tareq_, copy that too
[18:26] <pavlushka> Ok , working on it, need some time, 3 days I guess.
[18:26] <ashabadi> but I don't think any admin/moderator will give you vetto for creating a good webpage
[18:26] <ashabadi> when we don't have one
[18:27] <ashabadi> ohh yes tareq_
[18:27] <ashabadi> we won't open it to public at first go
[18:27] <ashabadi> not even in 3 days
[18:27] <tareq_> facebook group is the solid example
[18:27] <ashabadi> we may build it for 1 month with contents as I said earlier
[18:27] <tareq_> hmm
[18:28] <tareq_> i will write some doc on kubuntu
[18:28] <ashabadi> we will open posting solution for members for only a handful of volunteers
[18:28] <ashabadi> we will test the output/typing skills of these volunteers first to give them access
[18:28]  * pavlushka thinks it is a good idea
[18:29] <tareq_> we can make two version of it
[18:29] <ashabadi> we may post in the facebook that we are trying to revive the loco community and need volunteers to help
[18:29] <tareq_> bangla and english
[18:29] <ashabadi> I think out of 12k members we may be lucky enough to find atleast 12 members
[18:30] <tareq_> ha ha
[18:30] <tareq_> hope is the fuel
[18:30] <ashabadi> I'll try to get hold of adnan bhai/ekushey before we post it in the facebook group
[18:30] <pavlushka> ashabadi, tareq_, you know already some skillful volunteers I guess, like AudaciousTUX
[18:30] <pavlushka> and...
[18:30] <tareq_> yea
[18:31] <tareq_> but one is not enough
[18:31] <pavlushka> wont be a bad start I guess
[18:31] <tareq_> we need more like tanjim
[18:31] <ashabadi> pavlushka: how many? I already told I can think of only 5 members, out of which 2 are already sleeping
[18:31] <tareq_> ohh
[18:31] <pavlushka> yeah, post it in ubuntu-fb, we will have more.
[18:31] <ashabadi> for that I will discuss with Adnan bhai/ Ekushey / raihan
[18:31] <ashabadi> first
[18:32] <pavlushka> +1
[18:32] <ashabadi> I will try to have this discussion tomorrow
[18:32] <tareq_> +1
[18:32] <tareq_> where is raihan btw
[18:32] <tareq_> he was active earlier
[18:35] <pavlushka> Kilos, help us having meetings hosted by QA and keeping that log
[18:35] <tareq_> we can make some tutorials on various topics
[18:36] <Kilos> will do, we can ask inetpro to help us
[18:36] <Kilos> atm superfly is hosting her
[18:37] <pavlushka> Kilos, like you people do in #ubuntu-za
[18:37] <pavlushka> ashabadi, tareq_ are you guys ok with that?
[18:37] <pavlushka> sorry I should have asked earlier 
[18:37] <Kilos> the are a few commands to remember
[18:37] <ashabadi> what's the benefit of using qa as log instead of irc log?
[18:37] <tareq_> I have no problem
[18:37] <Kilos> things like QA_ start meeting
[18:37] <Kilos> ai!
[18:37] <Kilos> QA_ change nick to QA
[18:37] <QA> Kilos: Changing nick to QA
[18:38] <pavlushka> ashabadi, you will have the issues sorted, not mixed up with other discussion and you will not need to extract the meeting content from the whol;e log
[18:39] <pavlushka> ashabadi, meeting will be held on specific topic
[18:40] <tareq_> that would be formal than
[18:40] <Kilos> you set up an agenda for your meetings
[18:40] <ashabadi> I'm not hopeful of finding too many volunteers from facebook group to be frank
[18:40] <pavlushka> tareq_, yes, that's the idea
[18:40] <Kilos> similar to http://bit.ly/1TxD2JQ
[18:40] <tareq_> ashabadi: same here
[18:41] <tareq_> ok, guys
[18:42] <tareq_> it was a great start
[18:42] <tareq_> I'm going to have some sleep
[18:42] <tareq_> good night
[18:42] <Kilos> night tareq_ 
[18:43] <pavlushka> ashabadi, atleast we can try, :) and you are the ashabadi
[18:44] <pavlushka> ashabadi, you there?
[18:44] <ashabadi> humm
[18:45] <ashabadi> I'm trying to send group private message to admin of fb group
[18:45] <ashabadi> but not finding way to include member who are not my friends
[18:45] <pavlushka> good
[18:50] <ashabadi> pavlushka: I'm asha & badi
[18:50] <ashabadi> I'm truly an realist instead of dreamer
[18:51] <ashabadi> I know there won't be 12 volunteers out of these 12k members
[18:51] <ashabadi> none is willing to give that much time now a days
[18:51] <pavlushka> ashabadi, realist is better
[18:51] <ashabadi> they have classes/friends/meetups/games/girlfriends to give time to
[18:52] <ashabadi> instead of staying up night after night and trying to contribute in Ubuntu community
[18:52] <pavlushka> a realist plans, doesn't dream, and if plans fails, he/she understands
[18:53] <ashabadi> realistically I'm even afraid whether this enthusiasm of Tareq & Tanjim will remain for much long too
[18:53] <ashabadi> anyway
[18:53] <ashabadi> only time will say
[18:53] <ashabadi> lets see and hope for the best
[18:53] <ashabadi> I need to sign off now
[18:53] <pavlushka> yes, time will say
[18:53] <pavlushka> Goodnight ashabadi
[18:54] <ashabadi> I think my wife won't be happy that I have been on pc since evening and not giving any time to her
[18:54] <ashabadi> I wonder how Kilos manage
[18:54]  * pavlushka laughs
[18:54] <ashabadi> any tips Kilos on how to manage life?
[18:56] <pavlushka> I know Kilos can manage sheep, and ubuntu-community but dont know what else.
[18:56] <Kilos> haha
[18:56] <Kilos> ive been divorced tice
[18:56] <Kilos> twice
[18:57] <ashabadi> hmm then not a good source to seek tips I guess.. no offense
[18:57] <pavlushka> twice? man i didn't even got married!
[18:57] <ashabadi> Kilos:  you are brave enough to try it second time 
[18:57] <pavlushka> though benn refused many times, :p
[18:57] <Kilos> lol
[18:57] <ashabadi> did not know you propose other to marry you in day time
[18:58] <pavlushka> ashabadi, yeah, but you got me, :(
[18:59] <pavlushka> ashabadi, dont tell anybody, keep it within the logs, :p
[19:00] <ashabadi> logs are public you know
[19:00] <ashabadi> searching pavlushka will show what you do on free time
[19:00] <ashabadi> :P
[19:00] <pavlushka> :p
[19:02] <pavlushka> ashabadi, Kilos it was actually like I was late in approach, they got engaged formally or informally, :p
[19:02] <pavlushka> হা কপাল | hard luck
[19:03] <ashabadi> humm
[19:03] <ashabadi> good night guys
[19:03] <pavlushka> good the night ashabadi
[19:03]  * ashabadi yawns and waves at Kilos & pavlushka
[19:04] <Kilos> night guys, sleep well
[19:04] <Kilos> tomorrow is another day
[19:04] <pavlushka> Kilos, good night, will tell you about my  heart breaks later in details, :p
[19:05] <Kilos> ok
[19:05] <Kilos> haha