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ubuntu__so the toolbar , windows manager is not just a seperate process that one can kill pid and exec another in its place00:00
ikoniaubuntu__: what is the end goal here00:00
k1l_ubuntu__: but again: you are too much theoretical for this channel. we are here to solve issues. not to build theoretical issues. what you want to do is get to know how stuff works and how to change it. that means reading the documentation and the code.00:00
CodeMouse92ubuntu__: Correct. It's all one thing. And k1l_ is correct00:00
ubuntu__to change out the tool bars or windows manager i was thinking they would have coded it to  be seperate programs that you could switch out the pieces with relative easy or even code another toolbar that you exec in its place00:01
bpromptubuntu__:     hmmm depends on what you're trying to do, I run kde apps, and thus run "sddm", however I use lxde as WM, and my window customization and desktop and taskbar and such, are in LXDE00:01
ubuntu__for just unity or for all the desktop managers pretty much00:01
k1l_ubuntu__: no. on the big desktop enviroments (like unity) its not seperated into different programs00:01
bazhangubuntu__, so try gnome-shell and its numerous extensions00:01
ikoniaubuntu__: what is the end goal here00:01
ikoniaubuntu__: just tell us what you want at the end00:01
bpromptubuntu__:    back in SuSE used to run gnome apps in kde, or run a gnome session and run kde apps, also has xfce installed00:01
daxKDE lets you use other window managers fairly easily (there's a system settings option for it).00:02
k1l_bprompt: i think this is one of the few examples where the agreed on one standard00:02
LucidThat didn't work. I logged out and restarted yet it's still not showing up.00:02
daxPersonally I'm fond of KDE with openbox.00:02
k1l_Lucid: is chrome installed properly?00:03
ubuntu__to beable to create my own desktop not just change the desktop themes or icons on it but to change the windows manager (the way the windows look/feel) as well as the toolbars (look and feel weather it has startup menu or not ...)00:03
LucidI'll try uninstalling it and reinstalling it.00:03
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ikoniaubuntu__: not going to happen00:03
ikoniaubuntu__: you'd do better to learn how to theme the desktop you like00:03
Tin_manubuntu__, you'll have to program your own linux then00:04
k1l_Lucid: apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable00:04
ubuntu__I was thinking it was just piecing together the toolbar program and start menu program and windows manager to form your desktop manager but not if its all integrated as one application so you have to code from scratch00:04
ikoniaubuntu__: no00:04
ubuntu__ok thanks00:04
bpromptubuntu__:    hmmm I pretty much do that, I mean, I run lxde and my desktop and taskbar and menus are from lxde, though I run kde apps and also QT ones00:04
Tin_manthere is much more flexibility in Linux desktop manager's than any windows environment00:05
k1l_ubuntu__: look at cinnamon what they needed to do to get the gnome-shell change the look to the old gnome2 look. its a lot of effort. there are more modular smaller desktops00:05
ubuntu__yes i got it i have done things like that a little thrue xinitrc files and other x11 configuration files but want to understand it at the more higher levels of creating your own windows and desktop managers00:06
Tin_manI bet kde would be enough to keep you busy for a tad bit..00:06
LucidOkay, I got it now.00:07
ubuntu__i see that it is going to be complex if you don't uses existing windows and desktop manager components00:07
k1l_ok. i guess the folks in #ubuntu-offtopic will give their opinions on that since we left the actual ubuntu support in here.00:07
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ubuntu__sure i know with GTK+ or QT i could figure out how to a gui window or menu or toolbar but tieing it to the linux system is the part that is going to be difficult . I mean i know of crap ways of doing it but interms of a good coding practice way like gnome or kde was built00:08
ubuntu__i could make a button on a toolbar from QT say that when click executes a particular program at a location but i have a feeling hard coding it and doing it this way is not a good portable way of doing it00:10
ShamblesOk so I might be an idiot but I can't reown a folder that's owned by root.00:10
Ben64Shambles: what folder where why00:10
ubuntu__chown00:11
k1l_Shambles: use chown on the cli.00:11
CodeMouse92ubuntu__: Actually, (A) if you want to create your own GUI, window manager, or whatever, you WILL have to write code. (B) That's entirely off-topic to this room :)00:11
ShamblesI'm using putty to connect over SSH.  I've mounted a 2nd HDD connected over SATA.00:11
ShamblesI've tried sudo chown -R david:laycocks \mnt\hdd100:12
ubuntu__ya i don't mind writting code i know i could get it to work but writting it to be a portable windows or desktop manager that could function on other peoples machines is another thing plus i know i would code it shitty00:12
ShamblesNo error message but ls -l still shows root as the owner and group00:12
Ben64\ isn't correct00:12
CodeMouse92ubuntu__: Writing code is the only way to make it "portable to other people's machines," and the only way to get better at writing code is by writing code. PMing you to keep the noise down in here (I'm a programming professional)00:13
k1l_Shambles: \is windows. / is linux.00:13
ShamblesOk I'll try again.  I'm not sure which slash I used.  I may end up d/c'ing from here attempting to get back to the CLI :P00:13
ShamblesIt autocompleted the folder name so I assume it was correct00:14
Ben64what filesystem is it00:14
ikoniait's going to be ntfs00:14
ubuntu__I more of a creative man never was good with writing  coding well for maintainability/portability  . More for understanding , performance ...00:14
ShamblesNTFS.  Used to be a secondary drive on my HTPC00:14
k1l_!ot | ubuntu__00:14
ubottuubuntu__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:14
Ben64ikonia is a wizard00:15
ikoniasame old same old00:15
Ben64Shambles: yeah so you can't use chown on ntfs00:16
ShamblesOh right, NTFS just uses ACL's doesn't it.00:17
ikoniano00:17
ikoniait's just not supported on linux00:17
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magnumwhat is your boot time?00:25
Bashing-ommagicalChicken: @ 5 seconds on spinning rust . Why ?00:26
RahoulHow do i change cdrom automatic mount permissions?00:26
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magnumwhat is average boot time of ubuntu xerus?00:27
k1l_magnum: that depends heavily on the used hardware and used programs and services.00:27
k1l_and if you would not rejoin everytime you would actually see the answers :/00:28
Bashing-ommagicalChicken: There is no norm .. How fast is the CPU, how much memory, how fast is the bus speed what are you booting to ? Lots of factors .00:28
LiMp^I am having a really hard time trying to get multi monitors to work on Ubuntu 16.04 as a guest OS on a Gentoo host using QEMU with virt-manager and the QXL driver. In  Display settings it just say Unknown display and only detect 1 monitor... any thoughts?00:29
Bashing-ommagicalChicken: oopps .. sorry l bad highlight .00:29
magicalChickenBashing-om: all good00:29
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Bashing-om:) Better if I were to watch were I was .. rather than where I am going --- sometimes .00:30
root__hi00:32
root__morning00:32
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Bashing-omroot_: UnGood to run in IRC as root .00:46
root_lala hi00:47
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campeenacc: i tried setting "d-i netcfg/choose_interface select auto01:05
campeenacc: oops, premature paste. i tried setting that in my preseed file, and now it prompts me to select an interface, even though only one of the two interfaces actually has a cable plugged into it. it seems that i'm being affected by this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/85592101:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 855921 in orchestra (Ubuntu Oneiric) "does not honor netcfg/choose_interface in preseed" [High,Fix released]01:06
campeenacc: it looks like i've fixed it by adding "biosdevname=0" to my PXE boot line and specifying eth001:09
nacccampee: ah yes, did you try *passing* that to your install kernel?01:09
nacccampee: netcfg/choose_interface=auto, that is01:09
campeenacc: i didn't know that was something you could pass to your install kernel. is that what the option looks like? havne't seen them with a slash in their name before01:11
nacccampee: yes, you can01:13
nacccampee: i think you can technically pass your whole preseed on the cmdline, but htat would be crazy, and you'd run out of space eventually01:14
nacccampee: you're just passing the d-i strings with assignment and the installer knows how to parse them01:14
campeenacc: oh ok, good to know. i think i prefer them all to use 'eth0', so biosdevname=0 is an attractive option to me01:14
nacccampee: yep, i recall that being passed in many evns01:14
nacccampee: although, keep in mind, that may only be the name during the install, unless you modify the installed grub config01:14
campeenacc: thanks for your hepl01:15
campeehelp, even01:15
nacccampee: np01:15
capum321hello01:18
capum321i am trying to accomplish this http://www.monodevelop.com/developers/building-monodevelop/#linux01:18
capum321requires libssh2... is it work if install libssh-4 as seen by my package manager?01:19
capum321does it work* if install 'libssh-4' as listed by apt-cache*01:21
tewardcapum321: libssh2 exists in the repositories01:22
tewardwhat Ubuntu are you on?01:22
capum321i found libssh2-101:23
capum32114.04 trusty01:24
tewardcapum321: you're probably after libssh2-1-dev01:24
capum321all right01:24
ArcaireWould network interfaces still be called eth0/eth1 etc. in Xenial during install, or have they migrated to the new meme names?01:24
Arcaireenp0s20f0 etc.01:25
Arcaire(seriously what)01:25
capum321teward  monodoc 1.0 should be what? monodoc-base?01:26
tewardcapum321: if I may ask, why're you trying to compile mono from source?01:27
tewardmonodevelop*01:27
tewardMonodevelop's own documentation suggests to use packages that exist on the LInux distros already.  And it's in Ubuntu 14.0401:27
lunabuffhi01:28
capum321teward: to install v 6.0 and verify if some bugs are fixed on 5.1001:28
tewardcapum321: try `apt-get build-dep monodevelop` then try to compile from source01:28
capum321teward what can I do monodevelop 5.10 got buggy on my machine01:29
tewardcapum321: the command I just said downloads and installs ***build dependencies***01:29
tewardthat should help with the need to get all the build depends to build from source01:29
tewardcapum321: you then should try and compile from source and see if it says anything else is missing01:29
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capum321teward E: Unable to find a source package for monodevelop01:31
capum321just monodoc might be missing!01:32
tewardcapum321: I think the sources on your computer are messed up then because the source packages do exist.  That said, I'm not going to walk through every single build dependency.  *maybe* it's monodoc-base, you'll have to try yourself01:33
tewarda lot of times a lot of these 'build from source' things are 'trial and error' to get the packages you need01:33
capum321you said sources on my computer are messed up... which sources ? can I repair this?01:34
Yuri4_Hi, guys! I can't SSH into my server. Could you help me to decipher ssh -vvv output? http://pastebin.com/NSEz3cs501:36
lunabuff" No such file or directory"01:37
lunabuff"FIle does not exists"01:37
lunabuff"Look somewhere else"01:38
Ben64Yuri4_: you need to enter your password01:39
Yuri4_Ben64 I did enter password of course01:39
Ben64Yuri4_: what os is the client and server01:40
Yuri4_lunabuff, I bet if you do ssh -vvv and don't have a public key you'll get the same warnings01:40
Yuri4_Ubuntu 16.04 latest on both server and client01:41
Ben64Yuri4_: doesn't look like you entered a password at all01:44
Yuri4_Ben64 I did enter it01:44
Ben64well... you didn't01:44
Yuri4_Ben64 what do you base your assumption on?01:45
Ben64because every time i try it under a bunch of different conditions, i get output that passwords have been sent and whether it is accepted or not01:45
k1l_i dont see an error after the passwordprompt.01:45
Yuri4_Ben64 this is stupid. I'm telling you that I did enter a password01:46
Yuri4_Do you try with ssh -vvv ?01:46
Ben64yep01:46
Yuri4_then the reason is not that I did not enter a password, because I did01:46
Ben64ok so what happens after you enter your password01:47
Yuri4_Ben64, line 127-13501:47
tewardcapum321: that'd depend on whether you enabled any of the deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list01:47
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snkcldhow can i compile linux-tools-common with a custom kernel?01:48
Ben64Yuri4_: no, what actually happens01:48
Yuri4_It asks for a password again01:48
Ben64because... you typed in the wrong password?01:49
Yuri4_no01:49
Yuri4_it says so, yes. But the password is correct01:49
somsipYuri4_: are you typing in your password for your ssh key, or for your login?01:49
Yuri4_somsip, login01:49
somsipYuri4_: use password for ssh key if you are using key-based login01:50
Yuri4_somsip, I'm not01:50
Yuri4_Here is the full description of the problem: http://serverfault.com/questions/785348/azure-unable-to-ssh-after-transferring-vhd01:50
mhalanosnkcld, did you tried to download package sources?01:53
Ben64Yuri4_: use recovery mode and fix your password01:53
Yuri4_Ben64, what is recovery mode?01:53
Ben64!recovery01:53
ubottuIf your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode01:53
snkcldmhalano: im using a custom kernel, on ubuntu, so i am not able to install linux-tools as they do not have it for kernel 4.6.201:53
somsipBen64: on Azure...01:53
Ben64Yuri4_: is that actually your post? is this on azure?01:53
Yuri4_Yes01:53
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Yuri4_I can't use recovery mode. SSH is the only way to connect to the server01:54
Yuri4_I can attach the disk to another VM though01:54
Yuri4_But it will take some time01:54
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todd_I am trying to access a file share from a windows 10 machine (I the client am on ubuntu), it is set up for annonomous logins, but I still get a enter user name/password... please help01:55
mhalanosnkcld, did you created a package for this kernel? linux-tools-common is a package with some utilities.01:55
Ben64Yuri4_: without a root login there isn't much you can do01:55
Ben64todd_: you need to enable that in windows01:55
Yuri4_Ben64 I can create a new VM with root access to it and attach disk image of the current VM that I can't log in into new VM.01:56
Yuri4_Maybe I can edit password that way?01:56
Ben64yes01:56
todd_Ben64, I have it works with other windows machines, and andriod but not ubuntu01:56
Ben64todd_: ok01:56
Lopeare there any tricks to extend laptop battery life, like power down some of my CPU cores?01:57
Yuri4_Ben64, I'm going AFK for a couple of hours. If you could tell me what I can do to change passowrd or get sshd logs once I attached a problematic disk, I'll really appreciate it01:57
r0buit01:57
todd_I am trying to access a file share from a windows 10 machine (I the client am on ubuntu), it is set up for annonomous logins, but I still get a enter user name/password (it works in win and android but not ubuntu)... please help01:58
mhalanosnkcld, if you compile from source probably the utilities already are installed on your system. But look for the content of this package and realize if you need this utilites.01:58
Lopeon my previous laptop, mate had a CPU freq scaling widget I could use to lock my CPU speed to 800mhz so it didn't jump up to 2.7ghz etc. I'm still running mate but can't find that widget. I also ran many find commands on /proc looking for stuff relating to *cpu* *scali* *freq* *max* etc and could not find any special switches to adjust the MAX CPU freq. I'm running a 4.4 kernel. I also checked and found I have a intel speedstep kernel01:59
snkcldwell i attempted to apt-get source linux-tools-common, but it doesnt seem to want to download it, it instead just downloads the linux-4.4.0 package, so i have no idea why that is01:59
Lopemodule. I loaded it, but it didn't add any new stuff for the find commands I ran.01:59
mhalanotodd_, did you press "enter" without fill the user/password?02:00
mhalanosnkcld, ok. How you have installed the 4.6.0 kernel?02:00
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snkcldi git cloned the git repo, then make deb-pkg02:01
todd_mhalano: yes, the button is disabled, and when I press it it puts my curser on the user name field, I can connect to a linux anonomouse share no problem02:01
snkcldthen i instaled the created .deb02:01
linux_hello everyone~02:01
linux_I am a rookie02:01
mhalanosnkcld, let me know whats is git repo address.02:01
snkcldgit://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git02:02
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todd_I can "sudo mount.cifs //192.168.1.4/MOVIES foo -o guest" but cannot access it via command line02:08
todd_sorry via gui02:09
mhalanosnkcld, you should try with make-kpkg command ("kernel-package" package)02:09
mhalanosnkcld, and please refer my user in your answers so I can get when you answer.02:11
c|onemantodd_: perhaps its under /mnt or /media?02:11
somsiptodd_: fwiw, my options (in fstab) are these, and it works: username=guest,password=guest,domain=WORKGROUP,_netdev,users02:11
somsiptodd_: maybe _netdev wont help you, but try the rest of that as your -o parameter02:12
lunabufftodd_: you have to open listener to 0.0.0.002:12
todd_I am wanting to be able to access win10 shares via the ubuntu gui, but it keeps asking me to enter login info, command line works, gui broke, please help02:13
somsiptodd_: just gave you a hint on this. AIUI you will need user=,password=,domain= ni your potions02:13
somsip*options02:13
lunabuffboycott the GUI02:13
lunabuffit is no good for anyone02:14
lunabuffusers hate/don't understand it and programmers waste their time02:14
somsiplunabuff: and back to support now...02:14
todd_somsip: it is an anonomous share that is the problem, I cannot access it via gui, as there is no user to login with02:14
Jo__Can anybody help me make a Windows 7 recovery/repair disc please02:15
todd_somsip: I can via command line though02:15
somsiptodd_: that is different from what you said originally. So what is happening really?02:15
todd_lunabuff: what? why, I can see the machine just fine02:15
somsipJo__: try ##windows02:15
lunabuffhow about the others, todd,02:15
lunabuff?02:15
todd_somsip: nothing has changed, I am trying to access a win10 share, it has anonomus logins, but ubuntu keeps asking for user/pass02:16
Jo__Will ##windows still be related to Ubuntu? My problems started when I installed Ubuntu, now my boot thing is messed up02:16
somsiptodd_: 09:08 < todd_> I can "sudo mount.cifs //192.168.1.4/MOVIES foo -o guest" but cannot access it  via command line02:16
somsiptodd_: now you say you can connect via command line, but not by gui. So something has changed.02:16
todd_somsip: yes, the line after I said oops gui, sorry for the typo02:17
somsiptodd_: ah - fair enough02:17
todd_somsip: I can access via command line, NOT though GUI, sorry about the confusion02:17
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MannyLNJQuestion: If I need help setting up XenServer on Ubuntu is this the channel I should be talking in or is there a better one?02:22
mhalanosnkcld, Seems deb-pkg is a Make target, but official kernel don't have this, just the Ubuntu kernel version. I'm cloning the repo you mentioned.02:24
mhalanosnkcld, you could try the ubuntu kernel version which comes with all packages.02:25
mhalanosnkcld, take a look in this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=yakkety02:27
pauljwMannyLNJ, you might try #xen02:28
mhalanosnkcld, They have the 4.6.0 kernel already compiled and packaged.02:28
MannyLNJpauljw: thank you02:28
mhalanosnkcld, you could just take the packages you need02:31
netametaWhen i do echo "deb http://nginx.org/packages/mainline/ubuntu/ trusty nginx" >> /etc/apt/sources.list. i get -bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied02:32
Ben64netameta: makes sense. you don't have permission to edit that file02:32
somsipnetameta: you need to "echo ... | sudo tee file"02:32
netametaBen64, Even as sudo ?02:33
somsipnetameta: no sudo in that line you just posted02:33
Ben64you didn't say you used sudo02:33
netametasomsip, so i should add sudo to the file ?02:33
somsipnetameta: no, you should do it like I said.02:34
Ben64somsip said exactly how to do it already02:34
netametasudo echo "deb http://nginx.org/packages/mainline/ubuntu/ trusty nginx" >> /etc/apt/sources.list is the exact line02:34
Ben64is that what somsip said? ....nope02:34
somsipnetameta: redirection does not inherit sudo. so "sudo echo ... > file" will not work02:34
somsipnetameta: which is not what you pasted, and wont work anyway, as above02:34
netametaSorry i meant to copy the line with the sudo02:35
netametaso i should add the sudo where ?02:35
somsipnetameta: the telepathy plugin is not enabled in this channel02:35
`ZephyrSo, ubuntu is showing me the wrong time on the clock. It's telling me it's 12:33 pm when it should be telling me it's 8:05 am02:35
somsipnetameta: where I said02:35
krytariknetameta: "tee -a" in your case though.02:36
somsipkrytarik: good one - I missed that02:36
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netametaso echo "deb http://nginx.org/packages/mainline/ubuntu/ trusty nginx" | sudo 'tee -a' /etc/apt/sources.list02:37
somsipnetameta: no single quotes needed around tee -a02:38
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holmsanyone able to do this:  service iptables-persistent start ? seems to be no service exists02:40
pauljwso `Zephyr , go to settings, time and date and change the time and make sure you have the correct timezone set.02:41
`Zephyrpauljw: I do have the correct timezone set. No change.02:43
holmsubuntu xenial is officially out and supported right..?02:44
somsipholms: yes02:44
netametai just did: curl http://nginx.org/keys/nginx_signing.key | apt-key add - as instructed in here: http://tinyurl.com/jrppcxn now when i do sudo apt-get update i get an error:02:44
netameta"W: GPG error: http://nginx.org trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY ABF5BD827BD9BF62"02:45
holmssomsip: "service iptables-persistent start" gives "Failed to start iptables-persistent.service: Unit iptables-persistent.service not found." never been an issue on trusty02:45
somsipholms: its all changed for 16.04 with systemd hasn't it? Does that affect this?02:47
Ben64netameta: have to use sudo with apt-key02:47
netametaBen64, No i did not02:47
Ben64i know02:47
netametacurl http://nginx.org/keys/nginx_signing.key | sudo apt-key add -02:48
netametaor sudo in begining ?02:48
holmssomsip: yes it is :) systemctl start iptables-persistent --> Failed to start iptables-persistent.service: Unit iptables-persistent.service not found.02:48
somsipnetameta: why are you doing this all through PPAs and not using the official packages?02:48
ubuntu__curious how does one at the command line execute i3 windows manager to start on like alt+f8  i can startx on a different display but how do i tell it on the command line NOT there a configuration file to run i302:48
netametasomsip, i could not find the name of the official package02:48
Ben64netameta: its "nginx"02:48
netametai am looking on nginx they have like 502:48
netametanginx-core, nginx-util and some others02:49
somsip!info nginx precise | netameta (I assume youre on 14.04 as youre following a tutorial for 14.04)02:49
ubottunetameta (I assume youre on 14.04 as youre following a tutorial for 14.04): nginx (source: nginx): small, but very powerful and efficient web server and mail proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.19-1ubuntu0.8 (precise), package size 5 kB, installed size 85 kB02:49
netametasomsip, Yaps02:49
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somsipnetameta: unless you need some feature that is in the PPA version and not in the official version, you seem to be making this difficult for yourself02:50
netametasomsip, 1.1 is very old version i think current nginx version is 1.602:50
somsipnetameta: unless you need some feature....02:50
bdragonsl#vim02:50
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holmssomsip: seems to be there's no system.d script :(( http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/iptables-persistent/filelist02:50
Ben64netameta: the good thing about using the version in ubuntu is that everything just works02:50
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somsipholms: I really no nothing about iptables-persistent. Maybe you should address your main question to the channel02:51
netametaben64 thanks adding sudo fixed the problem02:52
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ubuntu__never mind figured it out02:55
`ZephyrOkay, does anyone know how to make ubuntu time sync again? I googled the problem and tried a bunch of stuff and it does not work.02:56
ridhahi02:58
superguestMy system is having trouble locating a swapfile specified using its UUID during bootup.02:59
Ben64`Zephyr: sudo killall ntpd && sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov02:59
Ben64superguest: blkid | nc termbin.com 999902:59
`Zephyrsudo killall ntpd && sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov03:00
`Zephyr22 Jun 14:00:06 ntpdate[2782]: no server suitable for synchronization found03:00
`Zephyr(that time is horribly wrong, btw. It should be 8:30 am)03:00
Ben64`Zephyr: firewall blocking it?03:00
`ZephyrI don't know if I have a firewall running. I don't remember enabling it.03:01
superguesthttp://termbin.com/rlsh03:01
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codepython777anyone here has used preseed recently? created their own ubuntu iso?03:01
Ben64superguest: that looks weird03:02
somsipsuperguest: what version of ubuntu are you running?03:02
superguest16.04 (xenial)03:02
somsipsuperguest: and where did you copy that paste from?03:03
superguestit's a direct result of " blkid | nc termbin.com 9999"03:03
Ben64`Zephyr: sudo nmap ntp.ubuntu.com -sU -p 123 -P003:04
superguestThe system message emitted something to the effect, "A start job on dev-disk-by-uuid ... " during bootup03:04
`ZephyrBen64: http://pastebin.com/5XE0Ei0q03:05
somsipsuperguest: does the file exist?03:05
Ben64`Zephyr: looks like something is blocking it03:05
superguestthe start job tried to locate the swapfile for 90 secs before timing out .03:06
`ZephyrBen64: I don't know what, though. This is a relatively fresh install of 16.0403:07
somsipsuperguest: have a read through the "Four-Step Process to Add Swap File" and make sure everything is as it should be, perhaps without creating a new file but that may be an option too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq03:07
superguestsomsip, yes. In fact, that's how I learned it.03:07
Ben64`Zephyr: router, firewall, isp, something, who knows03:07
somsipsuperguest: has it every worked?03:07
`ZephyrSo... basically I cannot have the correct time on ubuntu.03:07
somsip*ever03:07
Ben64`Zephyr: you can set it yourself, or disable whatever is blocking it03:07
mhalano`Zephyr, Do you make dual boot with Windows?03:08
`Zephyrmhalano: Yes. I do.03:08
snkcldmhalano: i was hoping to just use the vanilla kernel, though... but i may just use the ubuntu kernel for my host machine, and play around with kernel development inside a vm03:08
superguestsomsip, the uuid was obtained from "blkid -s UUID -o value /var/local/512MiB.swap"03:08
somsipsuperguest: that's not what I'm asking. For example, I dont have write access to my /var/local and that's where your swap is located. That would cause a problem...03:08
`ZephyrI've been dual booting with windows for years. This is the first I've heard of a time sync problem.03:08
Ben64`Zephyr: usually happens because windows likes setting the system time to local time, and linux likes UTC. this isn't related to that at all03:09
somsipsuperguest: also, that link I gave you doesnt say to do that so have you followed some instructions from elsewhere?03:09
* jamesd hasn't dual booted in years... vmware/virtual box on modern hardware is good enough. 03:09
`ZephyrBen64: Hmm. Actually, that would explain the difference. It is exactly 5.5 hours, the difference between UTC and Indian Standard Time.03:10
mhalano`Zephyr, I tried time.nist.gov and I can't get it. Try ntp.ubuntu.com03:10
Ben64`Zephyr: oh i thought it wasn't since it wasn't an even amount of hours off03:10
mhalano`Zephyr, 5:30h03:10
`ZephyrIndian Standard Time is 5 and a half hours ahead of UTC03:10
`Zephyrmhalano: I am not sure how I am supposed to do that.03:11
superguestsomsip, The command I typed is one way to obtain the UUID of a block device; it's doesn't conflict with what is said in the article.03:11
mhalano`Zephyr, http://www.howtogeek.com/211144/how-to-get-windows-and-linux-clocks-to-display-the-correct-and-matching-time-dual-boot/03:12
mhalanoYou need to add a registry key.03:12
mhalano`Zephyr, please let us know if worked03:12
Ben64superguest: but it's not a block device, it's a file03:12
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`Zephyrmhalano: when I try sudo ntpupdate ntp.ubuntu.com, it tells me no server suitable for synchronization found.03:13
superguestBen64, would that be a problem?  That might answer my problem.03:13
holmsi wonder how's the transition between trusty and xenial will go on.. there's gazillion of packages which doesn't have system.d scripts yet03:13
Ben64superguest: yep03:14
srir4mhey03:14
Ben64`Zephyr: ntpdate -d ben64.com03:14
srir4mis the current version of vlc working for u guys?03:14
Ben64yep03:14
srir4mhuh03:15
srir4mwell when i open a file...it does nothing...03:15
mhalano`Zephyr, very strange. May be you change the windows registry first or try hwclock command (as described in the link)03:16
somsipsuperguest: that's as maybe, but it's not working. So I would suggest using the file path in fstab not the uuid and seeing if it works. ie: do what it says in the article, get it working, then add a UUID if you prefer03:16
superguestsomsip, yes it works on filepath.03:17
`Zephyrmhalano: Okay, so the gist here is that I want the time on my BIOS to be set as UTC?03:17
`ZephyrAnd it should actually be at the UTC time?03:17
somsipsuperguest: so it seems like something in using the uuid is wrong.03:18
`ZephyrI think I'll have to manually set the time on my bios to the current UTC time ( 3:08 am)03:18
mhalano`Zephyr, You could do this using hwclock command03:19
mhalano sudo hwclock --systohc --utc03:19
`Zephyrmhalano: Except it does not seem to work.03:19
`ZephyrOh. Double dash.03:19
`ZephyrWell, wont that set my current time of 2:19 pm as UTC on my bios? That is woefully incorrect.03:20
mhalano`Zephyr, I had this problem either with dashes03:20
mhalano`Zephyr, when you execute 'sudo hwclock', what time is it?03:21
`ZephyrWednesday 22 June 2016 02:21:40 PM IST  .312164 seconds03:22
`ZephyrWhich is neither the correct UTC time nor the IST time.03:22
mhalano`Zephyr, and what your BIOS time?03:22
superguestBen64, the funny thing is, when you mkswap, it actually outputs an UUID for you to use upon completion.03:23
`ZephyrI don't know. I'd have to reboot to check, right?03:23
mhalano`Zephyr, Sure.03:23
Ben64superguest: ok?03:23
`Zephyrmhalano: BIOS time was my local time (8:55 am). I manually set it to current UTC time. Now Ubuntu is showing me the correct time.03:26
`ZephyrBut I reckon Windows will screw up next. So I have to do that registry edit?03:26
mhalano`Zephyr, Kudos for you :)03:28
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mhalano`Zephyr, do the registry edit so Windows won't mess with time.03:28
mhalanoYou can use timedatectl command to see all system times.03:29
mhalanoAnd this article is quite interesting: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/time03:29
`ZephyrLocal time: Wed 2016-06-22 08:59:12 IST; Universal time: Wed 2016-06-22 03:29:12 UTC; RTC time: Wed 2016-06-22 03:29:12; Time zone: Asia/Kolkata (IST, +0530); Network time on: yes; NTP synchronized: yes; RTC in local TZ: no03:30
`ZephyrThere, now that looks normal again.03:30
FuzzySocketsHi folks, I am having a permissions issue... trying to change permissions of something in a /usr/bin directory, but I'm getting the message "/usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set" any idea how to fix this? I can't sudo su to root03:30
somsipFuzzySockets: you don't sudo su to root. You use sudo, or at worst, sudo -i03:31
FuzzySocketssomsip: That's my attempt at fixing it03:31
somsipFuzzySockets: what is the problem, what caused it?03:31
FuzzySocketssomsip: I accidentally changed my /bin owner to ubuntu instead of root03:33
mhalano`Zephyr, Windows use localtime and Linux UTC. If don't set to Windows use UTC, you will have a problem with time on Linux after boot on Windows. That article about time is very cool and informative03:34
FuzzySocketsor something03:34
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FuzzySocketsChanged /usr/bin to be owned by ubuntu instead of root03:35
somsipFuzzySockets: and how are you trying to fix it?03:36
FuzzySocketssomsip: by attempting to switch to root, which I can't, because sudo is now owned by ubuntu.03:36
somsipFuzzySockets: I'd boot to recovery03:37
somsipFuzzySockets: or livecd...03:39
FuzzySocketsI'm using an aws ec2 box.  I have an image I can boot up.03:39
FuzzySocketsThat sucks.03:39
FuzzySocketsQuick finger fail.03:40
somsipFuzzySockets: you wont get root without sudo, and if you cant run sudo, you're stuck03:40
`Zephyrmhalano: That registry key does not seem to work with windows 10. So I just disabled syncing time on Windows and set it manually.03:58
`ZephyrAnd now it seems to be working. Until they find a way to screw this up again.03:58
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MannyLNJQuestion: If I have /dev/sda2 formated as al LVM2 PV system how do I mount it in /virtual_machines04:10
netametaany good tutorial for nginx/mysql/php/phpmyadmin on ubuntu ?04:11
gnarlochhello04:11
abhishekhow can I schedule execution a command like sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade weekly?04:13
gnarlochanyone else in #vim too?  If so are you able to chat in there, keeps kicking my messages back.04:13
somsipabhishek: you could use cron or unattended upgrades04:14
abhisheksomsip, thanks for the reply! I want to specify a day in the week without a specific time. Would cron job do that?04:17
somsipabhishek: what do you want to specify for time?04:17
abhisheksomsip, just a sudo apt-get upgrade04:18
somsipabhishek: when do you want it to run - within what time period?04:19
abhisheksomsip, a week04:19
somsipabhishek: you want it to run at any arbitrary time during a week?04:19
abhisheksomsip, yes, preferably after an interval of 7 days before the previous job.04:21
dibsCan anyone tell me how to downgrade ruby to 1.9.1 on ubuntu?04:22
somsipdibs: what version of ubuntu?04:23
user_406ubermix 3.004:23
dibssomsip: 14.0404:24
somsip!info ruby trusty | dibs (I believe it is 1.9.1 so how have you upgraded it?)04:24
ubottudibs (I believe it is 1.9.1 so how have you upgraded it?): ruby (source: ruby-defaults): Interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby (default version). In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.9.3.4 (trusty), package size 5 kB, installed size 44 kB04:24
dibsIt was just upgraded from 10 and now our redmine is broken, so trying to drop ruby back to 1.9.1 from 1.9.304:24
somsipdibs: ah - ok. Mine is still at 1.9.1 so my bad.04:25
somsipdibs: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get04:25
dibsah apt-get you reckon? I was trying to do it with rvm04:26
dibswill give it a go04:26
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mauro_hi04:47
KolusionI use a VPN service for my internet. I am hoping to make it so when my connection to my VPN service drops out, my computer does not allow anymore network traffic in or out until it is connected to my VPN service again. In Windows 10 Home I was able to do this using the Windows Firewall. I was wondering if anybody knows if it can be done in Ubuntu's firewall 'ufw'?  I have read in the manual for it something that looks like something I 04:48
KolusionI have read in the manual for it something that looks like something I may be able to use to do it. The manual indicates (to type this into Terminal):   By default, ufw will apply rules to all available interfaces. To limit        this, specify DIRECTION on INTERFACE, where DIRECTION is one of in or        out (interface aliases are not supported).04:48
KolusionI am confused because when I look at the connection information from the network icon in the top right hand corner of Ubuntu's desktop, there is no Interface for my VPN connection. Windows 10 Home treats VPN connections virtually as an interface, but it looks to me as though Ubuntu considers only physical interfaces as true.  Can someone please help me with setting this up?04:48
plop_its_ellieKolusion, whats happening?04:51
plop_its_elliethere should be an interface for your vpn04:51
plop_its_elliefor openvpn it should be something like tun004:52
KolusionNot much, just sorting out some computer issues. How about yourself?04:52
KolusionWhat is openvpn and tun0?04:52
plop_its_ellieKolusion, so if you go into the terminal and type the command ifconfig04:53
plop_its_ellieit will list all your network interfaces04:53
plop_its_elliewhen you use openvpn there will be an additional interface04:53
plop_its_ellieusually its tun004:53
KolusionI had a look and I can't find tun0.04:55
larsssKolusion: open terminal and type ifconfig04:56
KolusionI have 'enp0s25', 'lo', 'ppp0' and 'wlxe8de27129b03'.04:57
plop_its_ellieKolusion, are you using openvpn?04:57
larsssKolusion: are you using PIA's client or Network Manager?04:57
plop_its_elliehttps://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/78877/is-it-possible-to-set-up-a-vpn-in-such-a-way-that-i-disconnect-from-the-internet04:57
KolusionNo, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.04:58
plop_its_ellieKolusion, he means how are you connecting to the vpn04:58
Kolusionlarsss: I am using Network Manager.04:58
larsssKolusion: which port for the openvpn connection05:00
Kolusionplop_its_ellie: That webpage you showed me mentioned this: "Set up routing such that the only route on eth0 is that to the VPN endpoint. Since there will be no route to the Internet without the VPN up, no programs will be able to connect.". Someone mentioned this to be on the Technical answer system, but my concern is that I use more than 1 VPN, and that I would have the hassle of needing to changing my interface gateway to a different05:02
Kolusionconnect to a different VPN server.05:02
KolusionI am hoping there is an easier way to do this.05:02
plop_its_elliehmmmm, I dont have much experience with iptables05:03
KolusionI don't know what iptables is, but thanks for your help anyway :)05:03
plop_its_ellieiptables is the firewall on linux05:04
plop_its_ellieyou would have to set up some custom rules for your setup05:04
KolusionOh ok, I have the firewall ufw.05:04
larsssKolusion: sudo ufw default deny outgoing, sudo ufw default deny incoming, sudo ufw allow out on tun0, sudo ufw allow out 1194/udp.05:05
plop_its_ellieufw is basically a front end to iptables05:05
plop_its_ellieits suppose to be easier to interface with05:05
KolusionSorry larsss, I don't know what that means mate :\05:05
Kolusionplop_its_ellie: What is a front end?05:06
plop_its_ellieKolusion, basically it runs on top of iptables05:07
larsssKolusion: https://gendersec.tacticaltech.org/wiki/index.php/Anonymising_your_traffic_with_linux#Punching_holes_in_ufw_for_a_VPN05:07
plop_its_ellieinstead of using iptables directly, you can use ufw05:08
KolusionI see.05:08
KolusionThanks larsss, I am looking at that webpage now, but I don't know what I am suppose to be reading.05:09
larsssKolusion: it's strange that you don't have tun0 interface05:09
KolusionOw :\05:10
KolusionI am definately connected to my VPN now! :)05:10
superguestThe installation of nvidia-364 broke the default window manager/Unity05:10
superguestcurrently there are no windows, dash/Unity, titles, panels; nothing.05:11
superguestHow can I fix this?05:11
plop_its_elliesuperguest, that happened after installing the nvidia driver?05:12
plop_its_ellieon 16.04?05:12
superguestyes05:12
KolusionYou know larsss I am reading the section 'Punching holes in ufw for a VPN' on that page you sent me, and its sound similar to how I blocked non-VPN traffic in Windows 10 Home, so I think this is on the right track.05:13
plop_its_elliesuperguest, what card are you using?05:14
superguestgtx 76005:14
plop_its_ellieso you rebooted and then nothing?05:15
plop_its_ellieyou get to the login screen?05:15
superguestyes.05:16
superguestI am in X, but no window manager.05:16
plop_its_elliedo you at least see the wallpaper05:16
plop_its_ellieoh ok05:17
superguestor so it seems; well, the only thing I have access to is the contextual menu ("right-click"05:17
KolusionI think what I need to do is block all in and out traffic and then find out what my VPN 'adapter' is and use the command 'sudo ufw allow out on tun0 from any to any', where tun0 would be my VPN adapter.05:17
plop_its_elliehttps://askubuntu.com/questions/760043/ubuntu-16-04-unity-desktop-environment-doesnt-load-after-fresh-install05:17
plop_its_elliei've ran into that before, dont remember what i did tho, hope that link helps05:18
KolusionI am on the right track. larsss you are fuckin Awesome! :)05:19
larsssKolusion: your IP address seems like it is owned by Private Internet Access, are you connected to one of their Sydney VPN servers?05:19
larsssKolusion: i'm currently connected to one of their Danish servers05:19
KolusionIt is. No, I am connected to their Melbourne server.05:20
superguestplop_its_ellie, thanks ellie.05:20
KolusionHow did you know I was connected to one of their servers? Is it from one of the names I listed before from what 'ifconfig' told me?05:21
plop_its_elliehope it helps05:21
plop_its_ellieKolusion, you can check peoples connection info in the irc chat05:21
plop_its_elliewith the whois command05:21
KolusionOh yeah.05:21
KolusionI am guessing you saw the name Softlayer Technology. :)05:22
zotherstupidguyis there an offline translator for linux05:23
zotherstupidguy?05:23
plop_its_ellieyour brain xD05:23
KolusionI think I can figure out which of these adapter names 'ifconfig' stated that is my VPN service, and then replace 'tun0' 'sudo ufw allow out on tun0 from any to any ' in my command. I am going to try it out now. If I disconnect I will have probably gotten it wrong.05:24
KolusionI will be back though.05:24
larsssKolusion: you will HAVE TO disconnect and reconnect05:25
swedishhow do I retrieve my user password?05:36
KolusionI had a problem. I used these commands and were unable to connect to any network: 'sudo ufw enable', 'sudo ufw default deny outgoing', 'sudo ufw default deny incoming', 'sudo ufw allow in on ppp0 from any to any', 'sudo ufw reload'. After things went wrong I turned the firewall off using 'sudo ufw disable'. What did I do wrong?05:39
adenizgelirha05:45
abhishekany suggestions on this one http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37958974/anaconda-ipython-qtconsole-launcher05:45
uruk7how to see www.seriesflv.net from terminal -> w3m don't work in this page05:46
netameta-bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device - on tab click ?05:47
adg_hi05:50
larsssswedish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword05:51
KyleRaspHello?05:56
mocxzhelo05:56
open_coderubuntu mate vs ubuntu gnome05:56
mocxzany body here05:56
KyleRaspcan you guys help me out with something?05:56
open_coderyeah we are here05:56
open_codertell us05:57
mocxzhello guys05:57
mocxzim new here05:57
mocxznice to meet you guys05:57
swedishthanks larsss, fraid I wasn't specific: I can't log into my freenode account05:57
netametaHow is this possible /dev/xvda1      7.8G  7.5G     0 100% / from df -h ?05:57
netametahow comes i deleted 200m and they are not available ?05:57
KyleRaspI got a raspberry pi today and i loaded it up with ubuntu mate and I'm trying to remote into it but I cant use RDP or SSH because of my network here on campus05:57
KyleRaspwhat can i do haha05:58
open_coderssh i think05:58
KyleRaspthe networks are pretty heavily locked down how would i set up ssh05:58
KolusionSorry guys, I keep getting disconnected from this chat.05:59
SucksClient: HexChat 2.12.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3217U CPU @ 1.80GHz (1.80GHz) • Memory: 3.9 GiB Total (1.6 GiB Free) • Storage: 62.7 GiB / 227.0 GiB (164.3 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 • Uptime: 2h 12m 40s05:59
KolusionI think I might know what the problem is. As I have denied other adapters, Ubuntu is unable to DNS resolve the VPN address to an IP address, which is why it can't connect. Hmmm can anyone think of any suggestions to fix this? I am thinking of finding out which ports DNS uses and then allowing that only to my VPN address (if this can be done).05:59
Gallomimianetameta: reserved space for root?06:00
KyleRaspopen_coder?06:00
GallomimiaKolusion: dns is udp 5306:00
netametaGallomimia, I dont know it was 7.8 7.8 i just deleted 200mb and the available is still  0 ?06:00
netametathis doesnt make much sense06:00
netametais there a trash can ?06:01
larsssKolusion: you'll have to disable firewall, connect to the vpn, then enable firewall06:01
KolusionThanks Gallomimia!06:01
KolusionYes larsss! You are right, and I remember having this problem in Windows 10 Home too. This webpage you gave me is great, it addresses this issue too.06:01
Gallomimianetameta: reserved space for root means that only root gets to use the remaining 5% of the drive. or whatever you set it to at format time. it's reserved so that when it fills up, root can still access the system and run commands to free up space06:02
Gallomimiamocxz: hello and welcome06:02
netametaGallomimia, I am on root right now06:02
KyleRasphey larsss it sounds like you could help me out06:02
open_codertry wired connection KyleRasp06:02
netametaGallomimia, Is there a way to check how much each file takes ? or a good way to clean up system ?06:02
Gallomimiathere is. it's kinda slow. it's called du06:03
Gallomimiasimilar flags to df06:03
Gallomimiawell, if your disk is only 8g it won't take terribly long06:03
Gallomimiait recurses thru every directory and adds up the sizes06:03
netametaHow do i do that ?06:04
Gallomimiai like to do something like du -h -d 206:04
Gallomimiawhich means06:04
KolusionTHIS! command seems to be the answer 'sudo ufw allow out from any to [VPN server IP address]'. My concern is, can I use a FQDN instead of the VPN server IP address?06:04
Gallomimiahuman readable06:04
Gallomimiaand depth of 206:04
Gallomimiathen i can ignore the stuff that's small and do it again in a big dir06:04
Gallomimiaalso, try apt-get autoremove06:04
netametaTrued autoremove and clear06:04
netametatried*06:04
Gallomimiaautoclean?06:04
Gallomimiathat's another one. it's different06:05
Gallomimiai think it removes cached files and intermediates from the apt system06:05
de-factonetameta you can try something like "sudo du -a /var | sort -n -r | head -n 10 " for listing the 10 biggest in /var (or other dirs)06:05
Gallomimia8g is a pretty small disk to have your system on. does it contain /home and all that too?06:06
Gallomimiait just big enough to work comfortably. you'll need to keep on top of clearing out old files tho06:06
Gallomimiaxvda1 what kind of device is this?06:06
D10C4n3dio cane06:06
netametaGallomimia, yea i know its small, and yes it does, xvda1 its a ec2 system06:07
Gallomimiaah i see06:07
Gallomimiayeah. you can attach other block storage devices to use as a data drive06:07
Gallomimiaremember, once you spin down the instance, its main disk is usually deleted06:08
netametaI am going to increare the disk yea but i want to know what keep increasing06:08
Gallomimiapossibly just /var/log06:08
Gallomimiaget an ls -h of that dir06:08
Gallomimiaand maybe throw in an l for checking timestamps06:09
de-factonetameta you also can wipe the package cache (it downloads packages and caches them) with "sudo apt-get clean"06:09
netametade-facto, tried that - thats nice is there a way to make the numbers more friendly ?06:09
Gallomimiaadd -h to commands like ls du and df06:09
Kolusionlarsss: Can I use a FQDN in place of [VPN server IP address] in this command 'sudo ufw allow out from any to [VPN server IP address]'? My VPN gateway is a FQDN.06:10
Gallomimia"human readable"06:10
de-factonetameta i guess you can use the "-h" flag, but im not sure if sorting works then06:10
Gallomimiano it doesn't06:10
Gallomimiaso you can use two commands. sort to find which is largest. then use a human readable version on just the ones you're interested in06:11
hateballnetameta: you can run "du -sh /*" for a friendlier overview of what top dir takes most space06:11
hateballnetameta: check /boot for old kernels for instance, remove by running "sudo apt-get autoremove"06:11
Gallomimiathe s means silent, which is the same as -d 0 "depth zero"06:11
netametasudo apt-get autoremove  done, sudo apt-get clean done @ de-facto06:12
Gallomimianetameta: what all are you using this instance for? webserver? database? it's likely something like that gobbling up space with its logs06:12
netametaGallomimia, its a wordpress site06:12
hadleighw of a good program to burns dvd to hard drive06:12
hadleighdoes anyone know06:13
Gallomimiahadleigh: the easiest is dd06:13
Gallomimiai don't know how to mount the image after06:13
hadleighcheers gallmimia06:13
Gallomimiabut you do: dd if=/dev/mycdrom of=/a/path/to/a/file.img06:13
larsssKolusion: trial and error i guess :-P i don't know for sure06:14
Gallomimiayou'll need to know the proper name of the device (probably partition) and set where you want it to go06:14
Kolusionlarsss: Thats all good. Thanks anyway.06:14
hateballGallomimia: then you can mount with "mount -o loop /path/to/iso.img /path/to/mount"06:14
Gallomimiagreat thanks06:14
open_codero06:15
hateballI think perhaps Nautilus has a rightclick option for this as well06:15
Gallomimiai gotta write that down06:15
Kolusionlarsss: When I enable this firewall with a VPN connection established I can't view websites anymore. What could be causing this? This is my firewall status 'Status: active  To                         Action      From --                         ------      ---- Anywhere on ppp0           ALLOW       Anywhere                   Anywhere (v6) on ppp0      ALLOW       Anywhere (v6)'.06:15
GallomimiaKolusion: i bet it's dns. test with some host lookups06:16
Kolusionlarsss: The adapter 'ppp0' is my VPN adapter.06:16
KolusionGallomimia: How could this be because the DNS lookups are made through the DNS (I would think?)?06:16
Gallomimiai tried mucking with a VPN on a system. i wanted it to only use the vpn for torrents, but it would do everything. and the dns stopped working06:16
larsssKolusion: ppp0 is the point to point protocol06:17
larsssKolusion: is ubuntu your host or in a vm?06:17
KolusionI MEAN made through the VPN06:17
GallomimiaDNS goes thru a vpn too06:17
Gallomimiaand if your dns is set to your ISP's, your isp might not allow connections from outside its network06:17
Gallomimiathis causes your lookup to hang, and timeout06:17
de-factohow about running a loval unbound or such? you also can enable dnssec then i guess06:18
Kolusionlarsss: I matched the IP addresses of the adapters listed by 'ifconfig' and matched the IP address of the VPN in Network Manager Connection information. That's what I used that adapter in my firewall settings to allow it. Did I do it wrong?06:18
Kolusionlarsss: What does a host or vm mean?06:18
Gallomimiaguess he's not using that06:19
KolusionI installed it directly onto my hard drive if thats what you mean, not in like VMWare in Windows.06:19
KolusionGallomimia: You might be right about the DNS because when I enable the firewall, this chat still works.06:20
KolusionI am going to go away and do some trial and erroring. Before I do, could someone please tell me how to clear an entry made in the firewall ufw?06:21
netametaThis is crazy i keep deleting stuff but the available space wont go a wya06:21
netametaif its saved for root, how comes it got filled up in first place06:22
KolusionOk I am going away and trying it. I am wasting too much time on computers.06:22
KolusionThanks guys I will be back another time.06:23
Triffid_Hunternetameta: the data in a file doesn't get cleared until 1) all hard links to the data are deleted, and 2) any processes with an open filehandle on the file close the fh or exit06:23
larsssKolusion: sudo ufw reset goes back to default settings06:23
KolusionThanks larsss. This command will save my life :P06:23
Triffid_Hunternetameta: it's quite different to windows where you can't delete a file that's in use, and I think it's only recently supported hard links properly06:23
Triffid_Hunternetameta: "lsof" may help you find processes with open handles on things you want to clear06:23
somsipnetameta: what stuff are you deleting?06:24
netametasomsip, log files and stuff i dont use06:25
netametaTriffid_Hunter, will reboot help ?06:25
Akrizalpdo you speak indonesian?06:25
somsipnetameta: details would help understand why you are seeing no difference in free space06:25
netametasomsip, /var/log was 40mb06:26
somsipnetameta: that'06:26
netametasome files in /var/www/myProjects06:26
Triffid_Hunternetameta: well that's a somewhat extreme way to close processes with open filehandles on your files of interest; if that's what's preventing the space being cleared then yes it'll help but so would closing the process, or possibly simply HUPing it in the case of daemons writing logs06:26
somsipnetameta: that's not really very big06:26
netametathats was around 1 giga06:26
Triffid_Hunternetameta: logs? oh yeah, daemons keep an open FH on their log, usually they'll reopen if you HUP which is what logrotate does06:26
Triffid_Hunternetameta: one of the interesting abilities of this aspect of the linux FS is that you can rename files that a program is using and nothing bad happens until/unless the program tries to re-open the file under the same name06:27
netametaI see06:28
Triffid_Hunternetameta: best solution for keeping /var/log under control is installing logrotate (or similar, there's a few I think) and ensuring that it's set up properly.. most popular daemons come with logrotate profiles I think, perhaps logrotate itself comes with them06:29
netametadoes /tmp usually hold important stuff ?06:30
netametaIts taking 600mb06:30
netametaAhh06:30
netametacrazy06:30
Triffid_Hunternetameta: no, but expect weirdness if you delete stuff in there while your system is running normally. I often mount a tmpfs over that if I have spare ram.. mine's 200k06:31
netametaFound out what took all the space06:33
hateballnetameta: if you run a webserver/service it's not that unusual with large /tmp usage06:33
netametaafter i deleted the 500mb now i have some available space06:33
netametahateball, It was node.js temp files06:34
netametaWhich also solved my cookies/session problem06:35
netametaawesome !06:35
netametaThanks for help folks06:36
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Guest26237hi06:41
Guest26237i need help anybody help me ?06:42
Guest26237?06:43
somsip!ask | Guest2623706:43
ubottuGuest26237: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:43
Guest26237how to install conky ?06:43
dick_I cannot get my Broadcom wireless card to work in tails. I was successful installing the STA with the Ubuntu live, no such luck in tails..06:43
Guest26237apt-get install conky-all i try this command but not working06:44
mjaykGuest26237: how does it not work / what is the error06:45
dick_sudo update complete but "install bcmwlit does not show me wireless networks or provide me a wireless option. as if it doesnt exist at all. hooked up by ethernet06:46
Kolusionlarsss: I had a look in System Log and found this entry in 'syslog': [UFW BLOCK] IN= OUT=ppp0 SRC=10.1.1.11 DST=209.222.18.222 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=21604 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=51570 DPT=53 LEN=4006:46
dick_I have checked for software block, not the issue06:47
dick_jesus this is so hard to read06:47
Kolusionlarsss: I don't know why this has happened when I have allowed everything through on ppp0, which is what that SRC address is from. Do you know why this is happening?06:47
dick_ive also come acroos entering a restricted repository, but it tell mecommand unknown06:48
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dick_omg i cant read this shit this is stupid06:48
Kolusionlarsss: The IP address 'DST' is refering to is indeed my VPN's DNS server, which explains why I can't view websites.06:49
larsssKolusion: can you post the output of ifconfig on https://paste.ubuntu.com06:49
Kolusionlarsss: Sure. https://paste.ubuntu.com/17683346/06:51
larsssKolusion: so from before, Private Internet Access is your VPN provider and you're using network-manager to connect?06:52
Kolusionlarsss: Yes, and the IP address for 'inet addr' for the adapter 'ppp0' from the output of 'ifconfig' matches the IP address which is listed for my VPN in 'Connection information' in the network icon in the top right hand corner of Ubuntu.06:53
Kolusionlarsss: That's why I used the ufw command: sudo ufw allow in on ppp0 from any to any06:54
Kolusionlarsss: But System Log is telling me ufw is blocking it.06:55
dotaI've installed ubuntu 16.04 in Dell inspiron 7557, found no usb device working? Need your help.06:55
larsssKolusion: why don't you use the client they provide here > https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/downloads06:56
Kolusionlarsss: Its closed source, so I don't trust it.06:57
Kolusionlarsss: I feel better that it being setup on the operating system level as well, without depending on a third party application.06:57
larsssKolusion: fair enough but do you trust they don't log?06:58
Kolusionlarsss: hah! good point. ;)06:59
larsssKolusion: https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-providers-no-logging-claims-tested-in-fbi-case-16031206:59
larsssKolusion: before connecting to a PIA VPN through their client on 14.04 i make sure my firewall is enabled with my custom rules i created as follows: sudo ufw default deny outgoing, sudo ufw default deny incoming, sudo ufw allow out on tun0, sudo ufw allow out 1194/udp. this will... block all traffic in and out on every single port and only allow traffic out on the VPN interface using a specific port and protocol. if you get disconnected from the vpn server,07:00
larsssall traffic is blocked because of the aforementioned default deny outgoing. flawless dns leak protection07:00
larsssKolusion: the single packet sent to the vpn server to initiate the vpn connection is established on openvpn port 1194 (not DNS-Port53) but if you cannot get connected how i can, you will need to disable your firewall, connect to the vpn server then enable your firewall07:00
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Kolusionlarsss: I have a similar setup (or am trying to). I am using: 'sudo ufw default deny outgoing'; 'sudo ufw default deny incoming'; 'sudo ufw allow in on ppp0 from any to any'. This would required me to disable the firewall, connect to my VPN and then enable my firewall. Upon disconnection, the firewall will block all traffic. But the problem is my firewall is blocking my...07:04
Kolusionlarsss: adapter, despite me telling it not to regarding 'ppp0': '[UFW BLOCK] IN= OUT=ppp0 SRC=10.1.1.11 DST=209.222.18.222 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=21604 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=51570 DPT=53 LEN=40'07:05
Kolusionlarsss: 'ppp0' uses the IP address '10.1.1.11', yet it is blocking it when I have told it to allow it. This is the problem I now need to sort out.07:06
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Kolusionlarsss: So, I am now trying to figure out why ufw is block the adapter 'ppp0' when I instructed it not to, using this command: sudo ufw allow in on ppp0 from any to any07:07
larsssKolusion: allow it OUT07:08
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Kolusionlarsss: OH! I think you are fuckin awesome. I am going to try it out now! BRB :)07:10
Kolusionlarsss: Do you know how can I remove the instruction 'sudo ufw allow in on ppp0 from any to any' with resetting all the settings (for my future reference)?07:12
Kolusionlarsss: *without07:12
craptalki installed lubuntu and i got flickering screen, anyone can help me out?07:13
larsssKolusion: just use sudo ufw delete allow in on ppp0 from any to any07:13
craptalki installed lubuntu and i got flickering screen, anyone can help me out?07:14
Kolusionlarsss: Thanks larsss. I am going to apply your corrected command out now and test my setup.07:14
larsssKolusion: hope it works07:14
bazhang!patience | craptalk07:14
ubottucraptalk: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/07:14
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vincenetHello, I am looking for some help : command "python3 --version" works but not "python3" as if not exist. I checked and I have symbolic link "python3 -> python3.4" in /usr/bin I use Ubuntu 14.04.4LTS07:28
Kolusionlarsss: Thanks for your help mate! You solved my problem. If you want a favour from me, ask. :)07:39
KolusionWindows 10 Home can fuck off!07:39
larssslol07:40
Kolusiontest fuck test07:41
akik!language07:41
ubottuThe main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList07:41
somsipKolusion: enough with the swearing07:41
larsssKolusion: booted for swearing07:41
bazhangKolusion, stop the cursing here07:42
KolusionI see.07:42
larsssKolusion: ☺07:42
KolusionOk, I am sorry for hurting anyones feelings and causing anxiety.07:42
ikonia!guidelines | Kolusion07:42
ubottuKolusion: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines07:42
ikoniaKolusion: please read those guidelines about using the channel before talking any more07:42
genojoin ubuntu07:44
ikoniageno: you're already in it07:44
genohoops ..07:44
genohello :)07:44
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genoi'm new to ubuntu, I just installed it on my old laptop .. I'm trying to figure out how to enable the wifi07:45
geno.. my laptop is an Acer Aspire 5050, those are genertic info about it: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1fcbfc4364c104fc1f436570a4ff1d5307:46
ikoniageno: the first thing is, is your wifi card supported07:46
genoikonia, I think so those are other info, my /etc/network/interfaces looks like https://gist.github.com/a4bf6b77934e75b3ebce2f4df3ee48e307:49
ikoniageno: you shouldn't be using the interface file07:50
ikoniageno: network manager in the top right hand corner of your desktop will be used to configure your network cards07:50
genowhile this is the output of 'ifconfig -a' : https://gist.github.com/4010cb88ef888c2c68fdc11cd393ca7f07:50
genoikonia , i tried the network manager but there is no wifi listed there07:51
ikoniageno: so that goes back to is your card supported07:51
ikoniaas if it can't see it as a device, it's not supported and it's either a.) going to need additional configuration to make it available b.) not supported and never will be supported07:51
genothis laptop has a hardware switch (to set the wifi on off) when i switch it on/off i csn see in the network manager something changes07:52
genolike a airplain icon appear07:52
genoi guess when it is turned off07:53
ikoniageno: yes, because you are using the kill switch07:53
genoikonia, does this means .. the card is supported?07:53
ikoniano07:53
ikoniathis means you've flicked the kill switch07:53
genooh .. I see,  what should I try to see if it is supported or not?07:54
ikoniageno: research the chipset on the card to check it's linux support07:54
vbotkageno, you might want to check the killswitch status from the command line with "sudo rfkill list all"07:55
DANtheBEASTmanhi, so, i seem to have broken some things installing openjdk-9.. i uninstalled it, and installed default-{jdk,jre}{,-headless}, but now i have no java command. `sudo update-alternatives --config java` tells me "There is only one alternative in link group java (providing /usr/bin/java): /usr/lib/jvm/java-9-openjdk-amd64/bin/java" but that file doesn't exist anymore, it's now version 8 that's available07:55
ikoniaDANtheBEASTman: where did you get that version from07:56
DANtheBEASTmanrepos07:56
ikoniaDANtheBEASTman: certainly not the ubuntu repos it would sem07:56
ikoniaDANtheBEASTman: really, the official ubuntu repos ?07:56
DANtheBEASTmanyes.07:56
ikonia!info openjdk07:56
ubottuPackage openjdk does not exist in xenial07:56
somsip!info openjdk-default07:57
ubottuPackage openjdk-default does not exist in xenial07:57
somsipor maybe not...07:57
DANtheBEASTman!link openjdk-9-jre07:57
DANtheBEASTman!info openjdk-9-jre07:57
ubottuopenjdk-9-jre (source: openjdk-9): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT. In component universe, is optional. Version 9~b114-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 52 kB, installed size 166 kB07:57
ikoniauniverse, interesting07:57
DANtheBEASTmani wish i'd known beforehand that 9 wasn't stable..07:58
DANtheBEASTmanserves me right for not digging a bit first07:58
ikoniaDANtheBEASTman: http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk9/07:58
ikoniaDANtheBEASTman: do you have openjdk 8 installed now07:59
DANtheBEASTmanyep07:59
ikoniaDANtheBEASTman: where is the binary for it07:59
DANtheBEASTman/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/bin/java07:59
ikoniaDANtheBEASTman: try first update-java-alternatives08:00
ikoniathen check update-alternatives08:00
ikoniathe install hooks may not have fired08:00
DANtheBEASTmanhmmm not quite sure how to use the former..08:02
mihael_k33hlI'm trying to install urxvt-unicode version 9.21 on an Ubuntu 14.04, how do I install a package I downloaded .debian.tar.xz, it doesn't have any configure file08:02
DANtheBEASTmanoh. but i hava a `java` command again08:02
somsip!info urxvt-unicode trusty08:03
ikoniaDANtheBEASTman: see if the alternative list is updated now08:03
ubottuPackage urxvt-unicode does not exist in trusty08:03
somsip!info rxvt-unicode trusty08:03
ubotturxvt-unicode (source: rxvt-unicode): RXVT-like terminal emulator with Unicode support. In component universe, is optional. Version 9.19-1 (trusty), package size 654 kB, installed size 3040 kB08:03
djangoJOIN08:03
somsipmihael_k33hl: do you *need* 9.21 or will 9.19 suffice? In the repos under a slightly different name08:03
mihael_k33hlyeah, but I want to install 9.21 not 9.1908:03
mihael_k33hlsomsip, I need 9.21, a lot of changes in 9.2108:03
DANtheBEASTmanit's a shame backporting packages isn't as easy on ubuntu as it is debian08:04
DANtheBEASTmanpersonally i'd just as soon upgrade the whole distro than deal with trying to backport08:05
mihael_k33hlI am currently using Ubuntu 14.04 on my workstation and I'm trying to configure urxvt for my laptop which I'm planning to install 16.04. Hence, I'm preparing all configuration file so I need 9.21 since 16.04 uses 9.2108:05
DANtheBEASTmana lot of good changes in 16.04 ;)08:05
DANtheBEASTmanmihael_k33hl :: wait i'm confused, why bother with all that if you're planning to upgrade?08:06
mihael_k33hlDANtheBEASTman, I'm using two systems08:07
DANtheBEASTmansure, i have a few boxes around running different distros. just upgraded my gfs laptop from 14.04 to 16.04 last week08:08
mihael_k33hlDANtheBEASTman, yeah I should just update both of them, is there a way to update from 14.04 to 16.04 directly without the hassle of incremental updates from 14.04 to 14.10, 14.10 to 15.04?08:08
DANtheBEASTmanpersonally i just grab the 16.04 iso and do a fresh install08:08
ducasse!ltsupgrade | mihael_k33hl08:09
ubottumihael_k33hl: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.08:09
mihael_k33hlDANtheBEASTman, can't do that on my workstation a tons of files I haven't organized lol08:09
DANtheBEASTmanyou don't have a separate /home partition?08:09
mihael_k33hlDANtheBEASTman, nope just a monolithic / partition08:09
DANtheBEASTmanouch08:10
mihael_k33hlDANtheBEASTman, didn't really bother with having separate partitions, didn't care back then I deemed it necessary, now I'm regretting it08:10
mihael_k33hllol08:10
mihael_k33hlunncessary*08:10
Triffid_HunterI have a mono / too, I've tried multiple partition layout so many times and always end up having the massive hassle of reassigning space, usually with a forest of symlinks08:10
DANtheBEASTmanlvm is handy here08:11
Triffid_Huntermaybe next time I install I can use btrfs and quotas or something like that08:11
mihael_k33hlducasse, So I need to wait until July 21st lol08:11
mihael_k33hlanyone using a wm instead of a full blown desktop environment?08:11
Triffid_HunterDANtheBEASTman: LVM is all well and good, been down that road, still a pita to move space since filesystems need to be resized and suchforth08:11
ducassemihael_k33hl: well, you _can_ do it now, it's just not a supported upgrade path until then aiui.08:12
DANtheBEASTmanmihael_k33hl :: i use awesomewm instead of a de08:12
mihael_k33hlDANtheBEASTman, that's what I'm planning to use too. That's why I'm configuring rxvt-unicode-256color08:12
mihael_k33hlDANtheBEASTman, and familiarizing myself with vim and tmux hehe08:13
DANtheBEASTmanwhat features are you missing from 9.19 that aren't in 9.21 ?08:13
DANtheBEASTmancan't say i noticed any differences in the different versions08:13
mihael_k33hlDANtheBEASTman, 9.20 supports copy/paste by default, and 9.21 uses a new matchers that makes url-select deprecated08:13
mihael_k33hlDANtheBEASTman, mind sharing with me your urxvc config file? :D08:14
DANtheBEASTmanah. personally i use tmux exclusively, and use copy-mode in tmux08:14
DANtheBEASTmani have no config for urxvt, just some colors in Xresources08:14
DANtheBEASTmanactually i lie, i have a neat font-resize script08:14
DANtheBEASTmanhttps://github.com/danielfgray/dotfiles/blob/master/Xresources https://github.com/majutsushi/urxvt-font-size08:15
DANtheBEASTmanbut if you're going for tmux i'd recommend just using that over anything urxvt has08:15
DANtheBEASTman*especially* the tabs script for urxvtt08:16
DANtheBEASTmantmux is superior in that regard, imo08:16
ikoniaI don't understand your process08:16
ikonia1.) upgrade08:17
ikonia2.) install the version for that distro08:17
ikonia3.) configure it08:17
ikoniatrying to install the wrong version on 14.04 so you can pre-configure for the 16.04 upgrade just seem not thought through08:17
DANtheBEASTmancan't help but agree ^08:17
moveaxwhy ubuntu may not use swap at all?08:19
ikoniamoveax: it uses it if it needs it08:19
moveaxikonia: it always 0, is it ok?08:20
DANtheBEASTmaniiuc, swap is usually there for when you're low on RAM08:20
ikoniamoveax: if it doesn't need it - it won't use it08:20
moveaxoh, got it, thx08:20
DANtheBEASTmanthese days with GBs of unused ram it's rarely necessary08:20
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Triffid_Huntermoveax: windows is the only OS I know that can't handle having no swap even if there's ample ram08:22
mihael_k33hlikonia, basically, I have a workstation(desktop) and a laptop. On my workstation I have Ubuntu 14.04 installed, and I'm currently using it to configure awesome wm, urxvt, vim, tmux. Once that is done, I will then install Ubuntu 16.04(minimal) on my laptop. Hence, I'm trying to have application to have the same version on my workstation08:23
ikoniaTriffid_Hunter: windows handles no swap just fine08:23
ikoniamihael_k33hl: upgrade them both to run the same version08:23
DANtheBEASTmanmihael_k33hl :: but why are you "pre-configuring" before updating08:23
ikoniamihael_k33hl: keep it simple08:23
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de-factoDANtheBEASTman i would not say that, RAM is very expensive still compared to hdd space08:23
mihael_k33hlikonia, I didn't want to go through that hassle initially, I thought installing version 9.21 would be a piece of cake08:24
ikoniamihael_k33hl: didn't really do your research then08:24
mihael_k33hlDANtheBEASTman, oh I'm not planning to update the Ubuntu version on my workstation08:24
ikoniamihael_k33hl: which means even more you should keep it simple and upgrade them both08:24
mihael_k33hlikonia, i guess you can say that08:24
DANtheBEASTmande-facto :: oh i'm not saying ram is inexpensive, just that it's not uncommon these days to see GBs of unused ram08:24
mihael_k33hlDANtheBEASTman, so you're using urxvt 9.21 right?08:25
DANtheBEASTmanmihael_k33hl :: honestly i think trying to upgrade to 9.21 will cause you much more pain than it's worth08:25
DANtheBEASTmanmihael_k33hl :: on 16.04 yes08:25
mihael_k33hlDANtheBEASTman, yeah I can see in your config file, you're using matcher and no perl-ext for copy/paste08:25
de-factoDANtheBEASTman especially if you rent servers from a provider say a VPS or such, they just give you a few GB of ram and lots of HDD storage space. then swap really makes sense (as long as IO-wait does not go too high)08:26
mihael_k33hlI'll go ahead and update my workstation then08:26
DANtheBEASTmande-facto :: quite true08:27
moveaxdoes anybody know any battery indicators for openbox?08:29
moveaxand tint2 taskbar08:29
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DANtheBEASTmanmovic :: i use xfce4-power-manager08:43
DANtheBEASTmanoops wrong highlight08:44
DANtheBEASTmanmoveax seems to be parted.. shame when people do that08:44
someboyHi08:44
someboyI want to change the default window manager in my latest ubuntu install08:44
someboyI want to use the awesome wm08:44
someboycan anyone please tell me how to get the latest awesome wm08:44
someboyand install it so on boot I see the awesome08:44
someboyand not gnome08:45
YankDownUndersomeboy, "update-alternatives" => try that...if it's not showing up in your "light-dm" session manager...08:50
someboyYankDownUnder: I am not sure I understand08:52
someboywhat do you mean by update-alternatives?08:52
somsipsomeboy: install awesomewm, then choose "awesome" instead of Unity when you login08:53
YankDownUndersomeboy, https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/alternative08:53
somsip!info awesomewm | someboy08:53
ubottusomeboy: Package awesomewm does not exist in xenial08:53
someboysomsip: okay got it08:54
somsip!info awesome08:54
ubottuawesome (source: awesome): highly configurable X window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.6-1build1 (xenial), package size 761 kB, installed size 2650 kB08:54
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VenkoOK so my grandma decided to go with the XPS 13 Developer Edition laptop in the end!08:59
blutwhere can i find the busybox configuration of the 16.04 netboot image?09:00
jattyour grandma is a developer?09:04
adenizgelirhi09:07
adenizgelirwhat is the best irc client guys09:07
blut!info busybox09:08
ubottubusybox (source: busybox): Tiny utilities for small and embedded systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.22.0-15ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 343 kB, installed size 633 kB09:08
blut!info busybox-dev09:08
ubottuPackage busybox-dev does not exist in xenial09:08
blut!info busybox-devel09:08
ubottuPackage busybox-devel does not exist in xenial09:08
VikingHoarderadenizgelir, i like hexchat09:08
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adenizgeliri am using hexchat too but i just want to know what other people thinks09:09
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adenizgelirwho are using ubuntu09:10
somsipadenizgelir: ask the question belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic as this is the support channel, thanks09:10
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adenizgelirsorry somsip09:11
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craptalk:-D anyone here?09:25
somsip!ask | craptalk09:26
ubottucraptalk: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:26
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open_coderh09:34
somsipopen_coder: are you shy or just a very slow typer?09:35
blutwhere can i find the busybox configuration of the 16.04 netboot image?09:36
blutor maybe, where would be the right place to ask this question?09:36
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ph88during the install of 16.04 i had an option to encrypt the entire disk ... not just the home folder ... how can i undo this and how can i change this password ?09:38
sxpertph88: you can have up to 8 passphrases09:38
sxpertalso you can decrypt the disk09:39
sxpertbut it's bad practise to do so09:39
ph88i see09:39
sxpertfull disk encryption is a good thing (tm)09:39
ph88just need home folder encryption09:39
sxpertph88: what you have now covers that use ;-)09:40
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nevstahhi, which is the best channel for help using boot-repair?09:43
EriC^^nevstah: what's the problem?09:44
nevstahEriC^^: it generally does what it should, but i've encrypted thr root partition and my passphrase isnt accepted, i think this is because support for twofish isnt installed in grub09:46
nevstahEriC^^: i've checked the partition is still viable, because i can decrypt using liveCD09:47
UbuntivityHello. Is it ILLEGAL to ship MP3 support within the main ISO of a distro?09:49
k1l_Ubuntivity: yes, in some countries.09:52
xfffexit09:53
Ubuntivityk1l_: which countries in general?09:54
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Ubuntivityk1l_: and does it matter if I ship my own distro with MP3 support if my country allows it?09:54
k1l_Ubuntivity: well, you need to make sure its only shipped to your country. there is a reason why big distros dont ship that included but load it afterwards09:57
Ubuntivityk1l_: doesn't Linux Mint ships that to everywhere in the world??09:58
k1l_Ubuntivity: yes, i dont know why they are not suit for that so far.09:58
samgoodyHow does diff compare files?09:59
Ubuntivityk1l_: I want to ship it online, but it is country-specific distro09:59
samgoodyDoes it just compare names? Does it hash with MD%?09:59
samgoodyI went through the man page, don't see anything that helps09:59
Triffid_Huntersamgoody: line by line, it's designed for ascii text files09:59
samgoodyI have two directories that I want to merge. It should prompt before overwriting anything, but otherwise merge the files recursively.10:00
samgoodyFigured I should first diff them, but now realize I can actually ask if you can suggest a tool for the job I need10:00
Triffid_Huntersamgoody: git?10:01
samgoodyThat's an idea.10:01
samgoodyAh, but there is 42 GB of binary files between the directories I want to merge10:03
samgoodyJust tried git add . and then realized why the computer started hanging :(10:04
tlw310:04
tlw12310:04
synjuguys I need help - for some reason my ubuntu is seeing my bluetooth earphones as a keyboard and therefore no sound is coming from it... what can I do to resolve this issue?10:10
Ubuntivitysynju: try to convince your ubuntu it is not a keyboard10:11
synju:'(10:11
hateballsynju: if you know the model of the earphones it'll be easier to google10:12
synjunope - unfortunately not.10:12
mcphailsynju: there is a bug for that somewhere (for ubuntu touch, at least). I think popey filed it. Perhaps he can point you to it?10:12
synjuok so I went to sound settings and it see's it as an output device but now the audio is only mono and therefore only coming out my right earpiece10:13
popeymcphail: not mine10:14
mcphailpopey: ok, sorry10:14
synju:)10:14
synjuok - brb - smoke.10:14
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uppafter update ubuntu 16.04 i can't access my system any more, i can boot with usb and try to mount the old system, but then i get the unlocked device does not have a recognizable file system on it10:21
YankDownUnderupp, You should be able to use the liveUSB to boot, mount and check the drive...have you done that yet?10:24
HallerLhi, what's the easiest way to install xubuntu on an usb stick in an encrypted lvm volume? (i think grub2 is capable to boot an encrypted boot partion too but i m fine if it's easer not have an encrypted boot partion )10:25
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uppYankDownUnder: yes i've booted into a new system10:25
davesidiousHas anyone seen Ubuntu 16.04 detect one screen as two screens?  I'm getting two 'Samsung X"' boxes on the same display10:25
uppand i can see the old hard drive with fdisk -l and disk utility10:26
davesidiousand it seems to think a 24" display is a 7" display.10:26
YankDownUnderupp, So then you've done and fsck on that file system...?10:26
uppYankDownUnder: fsck on that file system??10:26
uppYankDownUnder:i can't boot access this hard drive any more10:27
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YankDownUnderupp, Have you run "fsck" on the disk partition you're having problems with?10:27
mcphailsynju: I can't find that bug, but I'm sure it exists. Headsets with volume controls get recognised as keyboards10:27
uppYankDownUnder: never heard about fsck10:27
uppYankDownUnder: did you understand my Problem?10:28
YankDownUnderupp, https://www.maketecheasier.com/check-repair-filesystem-fsck-linux/10:28
andi__Hey guys!10:29
uppYankDownUnder: it's a crypted filesystem10:30
YankDownUnderupp, "encrypted" - and it's safe to assume you've got the "key" to unlock it, yes?10:31
uppYankDownUnder: yes trust me, the key is right10:31
samgoodyI want to remove recursively all files in directoryA/ that already exist in directoryB/10:31
uppi use this ubuntu since a long time, and it's not a key Problem10:31
YankDownUnderupp, So, from the liveUSB, you should be able to mount the encrypted volume - or run "fsck" on that partition...10:32
uppYankDownUnder: the unlocked device does not have a recognizable file system on it10:33
uppYankDownUnder: that's error that i get10:33
YankDownUnderupp, http://askubuntu.com/questions/279493/how-to-check-an-encrypted-disk-for-errors10:33
samgoodySo how would I remove the common files?10:33
uppYankDownUnder:Error unlocking /dev/sdb3: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Error.Failed: Device /dev/sdb3 is already unlocked as /dev/dm-010:34
YankDownUnderupp, If I was you, I would reboot - using the liveUSB/CD, and start again...and also read up - especially on that last link I gave you...10:35
xdsany good facebook desktop app/client for Linux?10:35
ikoniafirefox10:35
xds:<10:35
uppYankDownUnder: i've read a lot, after this update everything goes wrong10:36
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HallerLxds: emacs10:41
xdslol10:41
HallerLxds: there are really some nice emacs packages for fb10:42
daumieI know if many online sources ....i would like a suggestion and a method of which one has used to better understand the terminal commands10:43
xdsokay but I was thinking of an X client10:43
hateball!manual | daumie10:44
ubottudaumie: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/10:44
HallerLemacas os not a pure command line tool -- nowadays, it has a fully featured gui10:45
daumiehateball: thanks.... I'll try user it10:45
xdshmm okay10:46
samgoodyI have two directories, A/ and B/. I want to remove all files in A/ that are duplicates of files in B/10:48
samgoodyI tried fdupes and fslint10:48
samgoodyNeither lets me specify which of the files should be deleted.10:49
samgoodyAnd I need that only the files in A should be deleted, not the files in B/10:49
Ben64samgoody: rdfind10:49
nixfoxany reason why the ubuntu installation would stay at busy cursor for over 10min when clicking continue on preparing to install ubuntu?10:53
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samgoodyinstalled and ran rdfind10:58
samgoodyit claims to have delteded 300mb of data10:58
samgoodybut git claims that nothing was deleted10:59
samgoodyand besides, I can see that the duplicated data is still in both directories. Does it delete dup data, or just make a script or smething?11:00
YankDownUndersamgoody, "man rdfind" will tell you what the util does11:01
nixfoxany reason why the ubuntu installation would stay at busy cursor for over 10min when clicking continue on preparing to install ubuntu?11:02
notadeveloperhmm sam goody huh11:03
YankDownUndernixfox, Could be heaps of reasons.  Best option is always to start everything from a "cold boot" - meaning, the machine turned off, then booted to the liveUSB/CD/DVD, then after getting to the desktop, initiating the installation...just "to be sure, to be sure" as it were...11:04
samgoodyI RTFM'd, but was in a different dir than I though I was11:04
samgoodysorry, nm with my non-relevant question11:04
satyanashHi, does rsync have an output control flag to only print the total transfer summary without individual file names? The -q option supresses all non-error output, which is something I don't want.11:04
Goeland86question: my CPU's heating up more than I expected, and looking into it, I see I'm missing the ondemand cpufreq governor... Did I miss something in kernel updates that disables it, or what? Running 16.0411:05
nixfoxYankDownUnder, I did jsut that11:05
nixfoxbooted from usb11:05
YankDownUndernixfox, Just a quick question - at what point is it hanging in the installation - right at the beginning? At choosing languages? Partitioning?11:05
Housesatyanash :  what rsync options are you using?  a simple `rsync -a --stats from/ to/` gives no file listing11:07
nixfoxafter the part where you can pick download updated while installing and install 3rd party software11:08
nixfoxYankDownUnder, I think if I remember correcly that's before partitioning11:08
nixfoxI'm using Arch on my home PC, trying to install ubuntu on my work pc11:08
nixfoxbut it does not want to collab with me ;)11:08
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YankDownUndernixfox, Not sure I understand where you're going with all of that - but, back to the installation - have you tried doing the install without doing the "download updates and free pizzas and 3d party software" to see if that got any further?11:09
nixfoxI was going to say the difference between the machines is, one is UEFI the other not11:10
satyanashHouse: thnx11:10
nixfoxI have not ticked any of those options11:10
YankDownUndernixfox, And it's safe to assume that the disk you're installing to (whatever) has been checked for errors or isn't a Windows 10 partition/drive?11:11
nixfoxyes11:11
nixfoxAlso just now I got a pop-up saying that the installation wants to force uefi mode but the previous OS was installed in legacy mode11:11
nixfoxForcing uefi can lead to not being able to access the other OS11:11
YankDownUnderIs there another OS on the drive? If so, well, "common sense" should prevail...11:12
nixfoxI would like to dual boot, so I clicked go back11:12
someboyHi11:14
someboyhow do I mount an encrypted flash drive with cryptsetup LUKS11:14
someboyin ubuntu11:14
someboywhich runs awesome wm11:14
Housesatyanash leaves without answering.  are we just sitting here providing tech support to dudes doing L1 tech support?11:14
abhishek__Stuck at this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1588428.11:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1588428 in linux (Ubuntu) "PCI bus error on startup while booting into login screen (Kubuntu 16.04)" [Medium,Incomplete]11:15
abhishek__Please help if possible.11:15
altriashawanyi11:15
nixfoxYankDownUnder, so anyhow why does Ubuntu try to force uefi on a legacy system?11:15
nixfoxand is there a way around it to say always use legacy?11:15
YankDownUndernixfox, As far as the reasoning, that I cannot answer...as far as a workaround, well, that would be something to check in the wiki...11:16
hicoleriIs it posible to get the old ui (before 16.04) back for applications like nautilus, file-roller and gtkfilechooser? The new ones look ugly to be honest.11:17
Housenixfox : https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/installation-guide/amd64/ch03s06.html#UEFI11:17
YankDownUnderhicoleri, It's merely "themes". Change themes to suit your taste.11:18
Yuri4_Guys, could you, please help a linux noob? I used thirdparty tool to dockerize my website. Docker container starts at every reboot. How do I edit script that starts that Docker container. The only thing I know is that `sudo systemctl stop docker` stops docker.11:18
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YankDownUndernixfox, It's late, it's a full moon, I've had enough...good luck bro11:18
ikoniaYuri4_: you need to enable the docker service with systemctl enable $service11:18
Houseim more familiar with rhel, but it's not the installer picking the boot/bios mode. according to that link, there may be a situation where "default boot mode for removable devices can be different from what is actually used when booting from hard disk"11:19
Yuri4_ikonia, yes, but how do I edit start up scrit?11:19
hicoleriYankDownUnder: Didn't ubuntu revamp application uis and remove titlebars? I'm talking about that.11:19
ikoniaYuri4_: why do you need to edit the startup script11:19
hicoleriand all those 'smooth scrolling' effects11:19
Yuri4_ikonia, I need to move docker from port 80 to port 8111:20
ikoniaYuri4_: thats in the config file, not the init script11:21
Yuri4_ikonia, alright how do I know where the config file is located?11:21
ikoniaYuri4_: depends on your setup11:22
hicoleriYankDownUnder: like this one http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot2016-06-2216-52-18.php11:25
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hicolericompared to this one http://hendi.name/wp-content/file-chooser-search-3.png11:32
BluesKajHowdy all11:42
hicolerihey11:43
WobboI'm looking for Ubuntu font Hebrew and Arabic. But I can not find it anywhere.11:47
Wobbohttp://design.canonical.com/2011/01/hebrew-and-arabic-on-track/11:47
WobboThis article comes from 2011...11:48
WobboThe current Ubuntu font 16.04 contains no Hebrew and Arabic.11:50
SubMindhey is there a way to backup an iphone contacts to linux ?11:51
WobboCan anyone help me?11:51
craptalkWobbo: with what?11:52
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blutWobbo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto11:53
WobboAbout the Ubuntu font.11:53
blutWobbo: http://font.ubuntu.com/11:53
blutit says TBA11:53
WobboThe do not have the version.11:54
blutit appears there is no arabic or hebrew yet11:54
WobboThere is, 0.8411:55
Wobbohttp://design.canonical.com/2011/01/hebrew-and-arabic-on-track/11:56
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Wobbothat is 5 years ago11:57
blutI currently don't have an ubuntu system running. Maybe someone else can help you.11:58
blutDid you search the repositories?11:58
ioria!info  language-pack-ar11:59
ubottulanguage-pack-ar (source: language-pack-ar): translation updates for language Arabic. In component main, is optional. Version 1:16.04+20160415 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB11:59
SubMind!info iphones11:59
ubottuPackage iphones does not exist in xenial11:59
k1l_Wobbo: obviously we cant help you. please ask the team for the ubuntu font what the plans are for that besides "to be announced"11:59
blutioria: As I understand it Wobbo is looking specifically for the arabic and hebrew lettering of the ubuntu font11:59
ioriablut, oh...12:00
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WobboYes,12:01
k1l_Wobbo: so i suggest filing a bug or asking a question: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family12:01
Goeland86how can I figure out why after a system update my CPU's frequency isn't going down to its lowest frequency as it should when load is very light?12:02
WobboHow do I get contact with ubuntu design (font) team?12:02
Goeland86In a range from 800MHz to 3.3GHz I get an average of 2.1GHz with a load of less than 0.412:02
WobboI would like to help them on this project.12:03
asdfggaaWobbo, i am listening to you (fontdev at ubuntu)12:03
asdfggaajust kidding lol12:04
hateballWobbo: #ubuntu-design12:04
hateballWobbo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList12:05
soee!info notify-send12:05
ubottuPackage notify-send does not exist in xenial12:05
ioriasoee, should be  libnotify412:06
WobboAlthough I can't read those languages I do need them... lol12:07
WobboThanks all12:07
asdfggaaWobbo, welcommen12:08
soeeioria: thanks12:09
ioriasoee, np12:09
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tomaz__Any duplicity user here?12:11
Wobbofont12:11
WobboSorry12:11
tomaz__i created a backup and it ran successfully. then i changed one local file... and added one more line of text in it. And duplicity verify, which suppose to show changes doesn't show anything??12:12
arcanistmany of my ide's and applications get stuck with the last shown output12:19
arcanistany advice on fixes?12:20
d08zhi, i am having a very weird problem: everytime i create a shortcut on my desktop, a copy of the icon is created and cannot be moved plus there is no more a "change desktop background" option in the right-click contextual menu (weird, i know)12:20
d08zany suggestion? tried to reinstall unity and ubuntu-desktop to no avail12:22
SubMindhey any good tutorial to jailbreak iphone 4 ?12:26
SubMindfound some but I don't know if great12:27
MyrttiSubMind: you're on the wrong channel for that12:27
SubMindMyrtti: what is the chan ?12:27
Myrttino idea but I know this isn't it, try searching for it? /msg alis help list12:29
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borisetoIs there some sort of panic mode or something in the kernel when it comes to the processor? I'm using some  kind of Intel Pentium processor here and at first it all works great, but after a while the laptop slows down (like being in a powersaving mode)12:45
HallerLwhat's the easiest way to install xubuntu on an usb-stick (not he harddrive), inside of an encrypted lvm volume? as far as i know grub2 allows booting from an encrypted boot partion too - does this work with xubuntu, ie to use an encrypted /boot partion with grub?12:45
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borisetoI have indicator-cpufreq and it says that it is in performance mode, but the indicator never goes up (like it does on my other machine)12:45
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Shadowbird123hi, i just installed fresh ubuntu 16.04 lts 64bit, added repository multiverse, installed steam useing terminal, opened stem from terminal and it started updating, till i got this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/17694321/ process is still runing and nothing happening.. shall i ctrl+c to start with?12:47
DinosaurioHi, is there any way to bypass checksum in bash?12:48
Shadowbird123everyone sleeping in #ubuntu-steam12:48
ioriaShadowbird123, see if it helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/617358/problem-starting-steam-on-ubuntu-15-04-64-bit12:49
elspruIs there a way of posting to wordpress.com from a desktop app?12:52
HallerLelspru: there's a webbblogger mode in emacs12:53
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Shadowbird123ioria: ty, it worked :)12:59
ioriaShadowbird123, great ! ^_^12:59
ozbrkhi guys I need atı mobility radeon 7500 drivers for my very old ıbm machine12:59
ozbrkany help for it ?12:59
ozbrkioria: and lubuntu installation succesful13:00
ioria!yay | ozbrk13:01
ubottuozbrk: Glad you made it! :-)13:01
OerHeksozbrk, on what ubuntu version ?13:01
ozbrkOerHeks: ummmmmm lubuntu 16.0413:01
OerHeksoh then you have the radeon/amdgpu driver already13:01
ozbrkyou know the problem is justthe internet now the VSync is not enabled so connecting to youtube is a pain now13:02
ozbrksorry guys can you repeate if any answer that you told to me13:04
ozbrkI accidently close the pidgin13:04
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BluesKajozbrk, AMD Catalyst proprietary Linux graphics driver,  http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst131ProprietaryLinuxGraphicsDriverReleaseNotes.aspx13:05
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OerHeksozbrk, read this before looking for a driver https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx13:07
Shadowbird123why is installing skype complicated for 16.04?13:12
hid|ninjawhats your question Shadowbird123?13:12
Shadowbird123has skype stoped supporting latest ubuntu?13:12
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Shadowbird123hid|ninja: i rememeber it used to be easy like sudo apt-get isntall skype but not anymore. why is that?13:14
hid|ninjahmmm13:14
hid|ninjathe version is outdated13:14
OerHeksShadowbird123, enable universe repo13:14
Shadowbird123OerHeks: done13:14
OerHeksand yes, the skype app is old, good luck with that13:15
hid|ninjathe 12.04 version is latest..13:15
blutis ubuntu snappy already active on 16.04?13:15
OerHeksblut yes13:15
hid|ninjathats why one should use open standards13:15
k1l_Shadowbird123: skype was bought by microsoft. and microsoft has no interesst in supporting linux with new skype versions. and since its closed source there is nothing we can do.13:15
blut!snappy13:16
ubottuUbuntu Core is a rendition of Ubuntu with transactional updates using "snappy". For discussion and support, please visit #snappy and see http://www.ubuntu.com/snappy/13:16
Shadowbird123k1l_: that explains it..13:16
hid|ninjalike webrtc, Shadowbird12313:16
OerHeksTo see a list of all available packages in the store, open a terminal and run the following command: snap find13:16
OerHeksblut, ^^13:16
hid|ninjayou copy paste a link then you can chat with anyone13:16
hid|ninjayou just need a web browser13:17
blutOerHeks: thanks. Not currently on ubuntu just yet13:17
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Shadowbird123does microsoft support any of its softwares on linux?13:17
blutI'm still working on an automated deployment for our users, so they can just install it from the pxe promt13:17
Shadowbird123or do they just want to make people not use linux13:18
OerHeksShadowbird123, more a question for microsoft13:18
Shadowbird123OerHeks: indeed13:18
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BluesKajShadowbird123, I thought googletalk was already replacing skype usage anyway13:18
Shadowbird123BluesKaj: oh, i have seen some of my friends moving to googletalk, but didnt know its getting wide popularity13:20
rantic_what do you mean getting?13:22
rantic_Google Talk is absolutely massive and has been for yerad13:22
BluesKajShadowbird123, it's much simpler to use than installing an app like skype ...MS is trying to keep it alive by default installation on it's windows OSs13:22
OerHeksskype, minecraft, linkdln ..13:23
Shadowbird123BluesKaj: well.. i dont want to deal with any microsoft softwares anyways, since realize of win10 and all of its privacy issues13:23
Shadowbird123im happy that steam is now for linux, so i desided to purge windows from my computer :)13:24
* rantic_ enjoys uneducated users believing the telemetry, tracking and privacy infringement started in Windows 10 or ends with Linux13:24
Shadowbird123its nice to be back with ubuntu <313:24
Shadowbird123thanks to steam, i have no reason to stick with windowns anymore13:25
BluesKajMS has made a wrong turn tyring to impose W10 on it's windows users13:25
Ben64the majority still don't care enough to do anything about it13:25
rantic_BluesKaj: They supported people on an operating system since 2009 and are attempting to reach convergence13:26
rantic_BluesKaj: Nobody complains when the Ubuntu LTS releases fall out of support or when Apple forces users to upgrade13:26
Shadowbird123Ben64: this is good time and opportunity to start introducing linux, like ubuntu to people. already installed it to my fathers computer13:27
Shadowbird123and spread the word about evilness of MS and current win1013:28
BluesKajBen64, weel , my circle of friends are mostly diehard windows users and alot of them have gone back to W7 , they can't stand the silliy W8/W10 desktop and all it's bloatware13:28
OerHeksShadowbird123, bla bla, this is ubuntu-support, not the ms-rant-channel13:28
JadenTerraI've installed it to my grandpa's computer. He loves the fact that he doesn't get a billion upgrade notifications.13:29
Shadowbird123OerHeks: y, sry13:29
BluesKajyes OerHeks , but it doesn't hurt exchange views now and then13:29
Ben64should probably do that in #ubuntu-offtopic though13:29
rantic_They both sound like they are in their teens and installed Ubuntu for the first time and don't actually know what they're talking about13:30
rantic_but in other news those VLC 3.0 nightlies on ubuntu are mighty nice.13:30
BluesKajrantic_,??13:31
whohi all13:32
rantic_who: Hi13:32
whocan you tell me where I can find xchat13:33
rantic_who: It's in the repositories, you can sudo apt-get install xchat13:33
BluesKajwho, hexchat is the way to go, xchat is old and not supported13:33
rantic_who: However its been out of development for awhile. I'd suggest Hexchat through a PPA13:34
whothank you13:34
whois ther any terminal irc clients are available13:34
Piciwho: irssi and weechat13:34
rantic_who: The most common and approachable would be weechat13:34
k1l_rantic_: hexchat is in the ubuntu repos13:38
k1l_!info hexchat13:38
ubottuhexchat (source: hexchat): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.2-1ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 330 kB, installed size 932 kB13:38
rantic_k1l_: yeah I just noticed. I mentioned the PPA because it wasn't in the repos for 14.04 and earlier13:38
OerHeksit is available, for 14.04 ..13:39
k1l_!info hexchat trusty13:40
ubottuhexchat (source: hexchat): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.6.1-2ubuntu0.1 (trusty), package size 317 kB, installed size 1024 kB13:40
rantic_ohhh :o13:40
k1l_its just that xchat is gone since 16.04 and only hexchat is in the repos now.13:40
rantic_wait sorry anything BEFORE 14.0413:40
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swati_27Please help.13:46
swati_27https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/lq9DFIOa/13:46
Bayamhai13:47
Bayamhow can I join for some channel?13:47
k1l_Bayam: /join #channel13:49
k1l_swati_27: what ubuntu is it exactly?13:50
swati_27k1l_: Kubuntu 16.0413:50
damien__.server irc.recycled-irc.net13:50
k1l_swati_27: ubuntu uses systemd since 15.04 and not upstart anymore13:50
swati_27k1l_: what should i do here? i really need to access DB?13:51
k1l_sudo systemctl start mysql13:51
swati_27no output13:52
swati_27back to command prompt13:52
rantic_swati_27: That's good13:52
OerHekssudo systemctl status mysql13:52
k1l_sudo systemctl status mysql13:52
swati_27https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VBIV5HYA/13:53
OerHeksno need for sudo + status, iirc13:53
k1l_swati_27: so its running13:54
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swati_27k1l_: yes...13:54
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OerHeks  Active: active (running) since Wed 2016-06-22 19:14:36 IST; 8min ago13:54
swati_27then why doesn't "mysql -u root" doesn't work13:54
swati_27??13:54
dreamy_hi can anyone tell me how i can reset or reinstall all my audio settigs? my sound module is not being loaded at sartup13:55
blutswati_27: your socket is local13:55
blutswati_27: not global13:55
swati_27blut: and how to fix this??13:55
blutswati_27: Version: '10.0.25-MariaDB-0ubuntu0.16.04.1'  socket: '/home/swati/.loca13:55
blutswati_27: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2 "No such file or directory")13:55
dreamy_anyone helping?13:56
blutI don't know.13:56
swati_27blut: right...13:56
rantic_dreamy_: Did it work to begin with?13:56
blutswati_27: I mean I don't use mysql. But you probably configured your daemon13:57
dreamy_rantic_, i need to load a sound module to listen to mp313:57
rantic_blut: He didn't even know how to start MySQL, any configuration he's done was watching a youtube tutorial or something13:57
blutswati_27: the manpage tells you how to use --socket13:57
rantic_dreamy_: You didn't answer my question13:57
swati_27blut: yes, changed the socket location in .cnf files13:57
dreamy_i didnt unerstamded it13:57
blutswati_27: Again, I don't use mysql. But apparently you can do something like 'mysql --socket=/path/to/socket'13:58
swati_27blut: Thanks. will try13:58
dreamy_rantic_13:59
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christian_hello ubuntu community!14:11
TikityTik2How do I put other distros onto a usb?14:11
TikityTik2startup disk creator doesn't work with tiny core.14:12
christian_I want to ask a question14:12
SkitzoTerraUse the dd command14:13
christian_I recently updated my HWE in ubuntu 14.04. It used to be kernel 3.13 then I did hwe upgrade to that of Ubuntu Vivid kernel 3.1914:13
christian_I want to know if I would still get security updates for my system with kernel 3.19 installed14:14
TikityTik2SkitzoTerra: thanks.14:15
vm096christian I want to know that too :)14:15
GnomeKrisShould I switch to Unity? Or stick with Gnome? It seems like a lot of the Gnome gui is missing things that Unity has already pretty well perfected. Like the printer dialogue.14:15
GnomeKrisScrew it, I'm gonna look up the biggest differences between the two.14:16
GnomeKrismake my own decision.14:16
christian_I installed 3.19 because I wanted to use the Mesa 3D Drivers present in that kernel (Ubuntu Vivid) for gaming in wine14:16
EriC^^you go girl14:16
christian_I noticed that when running updates, kernel 3.13 still receives updates14:17
BluesKajGnomeKris, DEs are mosty a personal decision14:17
EriC^^christian_: remove linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic and leave put the lts generic instead so you get updates on 3.1914:18
christian_no no Eric I want to keep kernel 3.19 and keep 3.13 kernel for its security updates14:19
christian_3.19 for its drivers and 3.13 for system security14:19
EriC^^christian_: ok, i think i missed some of the conversation before joining, nevermind :D14:20
christian_I was just beginning to ask Eric14:20
christian_Can Ikeep 3.19 kernel and 3.13 kernel at the same time and still get security updates?14:21
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damien__hey ppl does anyone know of any known issues using spotify in ubuntu?14:22
k1l_vm096: christian_ the HWE support ends when 14.04.5 is released.14:23
damien__i cannot access it both ways by using either my spotify password or my facebook password14:24
k1l_vm096: christian_ see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2FSupport.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support14:24
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adacwhat is the best way to increase swap space?14:26
damien__i have a way around it as i think there is something wrong with spotify, i just use youtube instead14:26
damien__no problems with YouTube14:27
damien__can anyone shed any light on this?14:28
Myrttidamien__: have you tried if it works at https://play.spotify.com?14:30
damien__yeah thanks i was just thinking of the webplayer actually14:30
OerHeksdamien__, what browser? chrome should work14:31
damien__i was talking about the spotify webplayer14:33
damien__it plays from your browser14:33
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f1gjamhi guys, where is the best place to get help on Ubuntu openstack/autopliot14:45
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hggdhf1gjam: for Ubuntu, probably #ubuntu-server; for openstack/autopilot specifically, #openstack14:49
f1gjam@hggdh, thanks14:53
django_1hey14:53
django_1how can i access this: "/etc/logstash/conf.d$" in file manager14:53
blutdjango_1: you can start a file manager as root e.g.14:56
blutdjango_1: sudo nautilus14:56
django_1blut, found it ty14:56
k1l_dont start gui programs with sudo14:58
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blutdon't use sudo if you need gui programs, really14:59
ioria!gksu14:59
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)14:59
Tameiki_Hello, I just reinstall my ubuntu (16.04) and I want to calibrate the screens (color stuff) but I don't know which type is my LCD screen (I have 5 different LCD screen in the calibrate software). Anyone know how I can know that plz ?15:05
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sandeepmaity09hello,is there anyone for help ?15:07
k1l_just ask the question15:08
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mcphailTameiki_: do you mean you have old calibration profiles, and don't know which one to use?15:10
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Tameiki_mcphail: In the calibration software, I need to select which type is my screen to calibrate it. In 14.04, I had "LCD, catho, plasma", but in 16.04, I have 5 types of LCD...15:12
Tameiki_I read on the Internet "If you don't know, select CCFL"15:12
blut!mir15:12
ubottuMir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir15:12
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blutis mir running in 16.04?15:12
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mcphailTameiki_: oh. Don't know about that15:12
OerHeksblut, not yet15:13
k1l_blut: its still xorg on 16.04 as standard15:13
mcphailTameiki_: sounds needlessly complex to me. Are you using a hardware calibrator?15:13
blutthanks15:13
OerHeksan LTS release does not surprise with such new features15:13
OerHeksexcept lxd on server15:13
mcphailblut: mir/unity8 isn't really ready yet15:14
Tameiki_mcphail: It's a hardware calibrator plug on the computer (USB).15:15
k1l_(for desktop)15:15
mcphailTameiki_: are you using dispcal-gui for the calibration?15:15
blutOerHeks: interesting15:16
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wardrockgdfhf15:29
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django_1where can i read about "sudo service __ start file_name"15:32
Tameiki_mcphail: I finally found: my screen is a normal LCD-White-LED.15:33
k1l_django_1: its called "upstart" but ubuntu uses "systemd" now since 15.0415:33
OerHekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers15:33
OerHekshttps://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/systemd-essentials-working-with-services-units-and-the-journal15:33
SkinkittenHow do I learn how to use Ubuntu 15.10?????15:38
OerHeksSkinkitten, that would be a lot for just one month15:39
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SkinkittenOerHeks: huh?15:41
mib_0yehttp://tinyurl.com/jfcurn5 http://tinyurl.com/jfcurn5 http://tinyurl.com/jfcurn5 http://tinyurl.com/jfcurn5 http://tinyurl.com/jfcurn5 http://tinyurl.com/jfcurn5 http://tinyurl.com/jfcurn5 http://tinyurl.com/jfcurn5 http://tinyurl.com/jfcurn5 http://tinyurl.com/jfcurn5 http://tinyurl.com/jfcurn5 http://tinyurl.com/jfcurn515:41
OerHekssupport for 15.10 lasts 9 months15:41
OerHeks!spam | mib_0ye, please don't15:42
ubottumib_0ye, please don't: Please don't spam15:42
Arthur_D2hi, I'm having issues with getting the HDMI to work on a laptop. I am using Xubuntu 16.04, and I know there's a key combo to enable/disable HDMI (Fn+f4) but it does not appear to work15:42
SkinkittenOerHeks: oh! I didn't understand you the first time. So, you mean to tell me, that next month, the ubuntu update will change what I would learn about the ubuntu system????15:43
virushello15:44
SkinkittenOerHeks: to get to my main point here, How can I learn the ubuntu system?15:44
tgm4883Skinkitten: that's an overly broad question. What do you want to learn about?15:45
OerHeksSkinkitten, there might be light changes, not that much to make your experience worthless15:45
SchrodingersScatSkinkitten: just pointless to roll any new 15.10 machines right now.  If you have a 15.10 currently you should be checking on upgrading.15:45
SkinkittenOerHeks: I want to be on-boarded with the penguin but I keep getting difficulty with the terminal15:45
OerHeksSkinkitten, so start to use it and read our wikipages and so on15:45
Skinkittenmay to rephrase my main question, what are the resources to learn ubuntu?15:46
tgm4883Skinkitten: well if you're looking for a book, you could get the "Official Ubuntu Book"15:48
Broseidonhmm I remember reading Ubuntu Manual and then The Linux Command Line skinkitten15:48
tgm4883https://www.amazon.com/Official-Ubuntu-Book-8th/dp/013390539X15:48
SchrodingersScatSkinkitten: the internet, #ubuntu, other users15:48
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/15.10/ubuntu-help/index.html15:49
tgm4883Skinkitten: although IMO the best way is to think about what you are trying to accomplish then start researching that (via google searches, wiki pages, etc) until you've accomplished that goal. Then figure out something else you want to do15:49
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designbybecktrying ot print on my office network from 16.04. I found the printer and set it up. but when I print something it says held for authentication. It doesn't matter what password I give it, it doesn't print15:50
designbybeckI was able to print on 14.04 on the same printer and network15:50
Skinkittentgm4883: thanks. that was my tactic but my patients has been wearing thin.15:51
Skinkittentgm4883: is there another linux distro simpler than the ubuntu?15:53
tgm4883Skinkitten: IMO, no15:53
tgm4883Skinkitten: but you haven't really stated what you are trying to accomplish15:54
OerHeksimpatience is a bug, you need to fix that yourself15:54
Broseidonskinkitten there is no huge difference between distros that you'll notice at all as a beginner IMO outside of finding a desktop environment you can deal with15:54
craptalkSkinkitten: what you mean by simple?15:55
BroseidonI usually install ubuntu with cinnamon desktop for newbies, my mother uses that.15:55
CodeMouse92Puppy Linux is pretty dead simple, but it isn't quite as feature-rich (and it runs as root, so don't let the newbies play with the terminal)15:56
tgm4883Without knowing his use case, it's kinda pointless for us to be naming "simple" distros15:56
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Broseidontgm4883 surely he is just 'trying out' linux. He can use anything he wants IMO15:57
Skinkittenwhich is the most tightly constrained distro. as in not so free.15:58
naccSkinkitten: this seems like a better question for #linux or #ubuntu-offtopic15:58
tgm4883Skinkitten: free or Free?15:58
BroseidonNot sure I understand that question, but remember you are asking in the ubuntu support channel15:58
tgm4883Broseidon: well he mentioned he was trying to do something specific but getting frustrated. So it doesn't seem he's just "trying out" linux15:59
Arthur_D2Oracle's Linux is probably least free15:59
Broseidontgm4883 ah didn't see that :P. Who knows15:59
Broseidonskinkitten join the channel #linux and ask there if you want to discuss distros, we're supposed to be talking ubuntu questions here15:59
Skinkittentgm4883: I dont understand the difference.16:00
tgm4883Skinkitten: one costs money, they other isn't able to be redistributed without restrictions16:01
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LiftedKiltis there any sort of guide to installing ubuntu with btrfs raid1 on the boot drive?16:24
LiftedKiltspecifically Xenial server16:25
TurboKrakenLiftedKilt: I havn't had experience with it but this seems to be up to date. http://jamesdigioia.com/installing-btrfs-boot-drive-ubuntu-14-04/16:25
TurboKrakenLiftedKilt: Not enought has changed to warrant a new guide.16:26
LiftedKiltgot it - so raiding the boot partition for grub is still a manual process?16:27
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mumbleshi, can someone tell me how to get all available network devices to populate a list in terminal for users to select one device (via select statement f.ex)?16:37
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naccmumbles: `ifconfig -a`, `ip -a addr`, etc ?16:38
mumblesnacc: thanks, I know how to find theese, but is there some way besides regexp to isolate the strings I need (in this specific case?)16:40
mumblesI'm new to shell scripting (but a programmer myself)16:41
nacc`ifconfig -a | grep ^[a-z] | cut -f1 -d' '`, there are probably many ways of doing it16:42
naccmumbles: i'd check manpages if there is a way to have it just spit out the dev names, but off the top of my head, i don't know of such a flag to either program16:42
mumblesalright, thanks you for this hint, I'll get deeper into this... guess there is no way around regexp. Thanks again :)16:43
mumblesnacc16:43
nevstahhi, i've used boot-repair on my pc to fix my install on a luks encrypted root partition, but its not working because twofish hasnt been included in grub, does anyone know how I fix this? i can still decrypt with liveCD16:44
Picimumbles: alternatively pull from /proc/net/dev directly (and other /proc/net 'files') which ip and ifconfig all poll16:45
naccPici: ah good call16:45
jane_I have an issue with ubuntu16:46
jane_and apache16:46
nacc!ask | janslow16:48
ubottujanslow: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:48
naccjanslow: sorry!16:48
nacci guess jane_'s issue was solved :)16:48
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JanisI need help16:51
JanisHello?????16:51
OerHeksJanis, ask, wait and see16:51
JanisOk16:52
subsumei can't ping out from my amazon box today. what should i check? i already disabled ufw16:52
Bayamcan i ask you something?16:52
Bayamsome questions pls, can i?16:52
JanisWhenever I connect my wifi, it works fine but then when I install apache, every 5 minutes the wifi disconnects16:52
Guest57378hey! i have backed up a folder on two different medias years ago. quickly right clicking the folder and looking at properties showed different amount of files and size. (i might have cut some out of one dir at some stage, or perhaps it got corrupt.) ive googled and found that running "diff -r dir1 dir2" should check for differences. i've read the manpage (quickly), can someone confirm that this will16:52
mumblesPici, great, gonna check that out - merci to you16:52
Guest57378check if the dirs are 1:1 and if something is missing terminal will report so.16:52
Guest57378also, i assume this checks 1:1 regardless of filetype, etc.16:54
OerHeksJanis, what makes you think apache is the culprit?16:54
nacc!ask | Bayam16:55
ubottuBayam: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:55
JanisBecause it doesn't do it until after I install apache16:55
JanisG16:56
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JanisAlso is it safe to run a site on ubuntu desktop?16:58
OerHeksJanis, is there any clue in var/log/dmesg ?16:58
OerHeksone can run a site off a desktop, desktop takes the most resources i guess16:58
mumblesnacc awsome your script works perfectly, thank you!16:59
Bayamcan i have some friend on facebook, so i can ask 1on1?16:59
JanisIdk I am reinstalling ubuntu right now.. Anyways while that is reinstalling, I used xampp before and someone hacked into my files16:59
Bayamor anything you have, ex line or something that you want :)16:59
backbox_Hi! i'm new here16:59
JanisSo I want to know if there wont be any exploits with httpd or anything with ubuntu desktop and apache16:59
Bayamsorry for my bad english16:59
OerHeksJanis, xampp ... sure, if you don't clean it up, it is easy to login. we don't support xampp, lamp only17:00
backbox_hello ?17:00
JanisYeah I'm done with xampp because of that (it was on windows) but if I install ubuntu desktop and apache, will that be safe to use to run a site?17:01
backbox_any body here17:01
JanisAnd be secure?17:01
backbox_any one ?17:02
mumblesbackbox_ hi there, let me tell you that most irc users are kind of "efficency oriented" so if you have a question, just ask17:03
JanisI'm here17:03
OerHeksJanis, standard it is not that secure, tons of sites with tips https://www.unixmen.com/ways-to-secure-your-ubuntu-14-04-server-running-lamp/  http://tecadmin.net/security-tips-for-lamp-stack-on-linux/17:03
backbox_can i get to know you ?17:03
JanisOk thank you!17:03
OerHeksbackbox_, this is the ubuntu support channel, not the dating site17:04
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mumblesbackbox_ that's right, maybe switch to a channel with a different topic :)17:04
backbox_mmmm ok sorry , can i learn from you about linux and Ubuntu ?17:05
backbox_nn i will stay if it's ok i really would love to learn about linux and ubuntu17:05
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mumblesbackbox_ then start the joy of learning and come here if you have problems or questions about it17:06
mumblesbackbox_ that means, stay if you like ofc17:07
backbox_ok thank you , and i will do that17:07
mumbleshave fun17:07
kaivnithi everyone17:16
hihihello17:17
kaivnitwhere are you from?17:17
hihiDominican rep. you?17:17
MyrttiInternet17:17
Myrttithis is a support channel for Ubuntu, did you need any help?17:18
kaivnitoh I'm from viet nam17:18
kaivnit:D17:18
hihicool, why cnat i find htop?17:18
hihiim tetsing out ubuntu17:18
SchrodingersScat!info htop17:18
ubottuhtop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1-1 (xenial), package size 79 kB, installed size 208 kB17:18
SchrodingersScatworks on mine, all of them17:19
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hihii try sudo apt-get install htop but it says it cantt find the package17:19
kaivnitpeople have to know how to deep web is not?17:19
SchrodingersScathihi: do you have 'universe' repo enabled?17:19
hihino17:19
hihihow do i enable it17:19
kaivnithtop17:20
Rocketeer99Does SANE support network printers that are just plugged into ethernet on the local network? I'm having a bit of a hard time connecting one17:21
kaivnityou type htop17:21
Rocketeer99sane-find-scanner just looks for usb scanners as far as I can tell and didn't find my network scanner - I did verify net wasn't commented out in the .conf17:22
WalexRocketeer99: Avahi maybe. In the case of an HP MFP it is the MFP driver/daemon from HP that configures SANE appropriately.17:23
Rocketeer99@Walex It's a combo brother printer and scanner and printing works fine17:24
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Rocketeer99@Walex and I used the brother configuration tool brsaneconfig3 and it claims to have manually added a scanner17:30
d08zhi! when i right-click on my unity desktop, i do not have the option to "change my desktop background" anymore (just upgraded to 16.04), any idea? :)17:30
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nacc!repositories | hihi17:32
ubottuhihi: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.17:32
Rocketeer99@d08z try trunning "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background active true" in a terminal17:32
d08zRocketeer99: yes, that worked but i still dont have the option on the right click menu17:33
Rocketeer99@d08z what did that do exactly?17:33
d08zRocketeer99: now i can see a wallpaper instead of a black background17:34
Rocketeer99@d08z did you install gnome shell anytime in the past?17:34
d08zyes17:35
d08zwhy17:35
Rocketeer99Ahhh ok cool is gnome-tweak-tool or ubuntu-tweak-tool installed?17:35
d08zboth, yes17:35
TameikiRocketeer99, It's Unity Tweak Tool, not Ubuntu Tweak Tool.17:36
Rocketeer99@d08z installing gnome desktop has a bug where it prevents nautilus from handling the desktop17:36
d08zoh17:36
Rocketeer99So try going into gnome tweak tool and there should be an option to let nautilus handle the desktop17:37
Paddy_NIIs there anywhere to view the "notify-osd" history?17:37
d08zRocketeer99: no there is not17:37
d08zRocketeer99: should i look in unity-tweak-tools instead?17:37
Rocketeer99Give it a try17:38
d08zRocketeer99: is there a terminal command i could type17:39
Rocketeer99@Paddy_NI try ~/.cache/notify-osd.log17:39
Rocketeer99@d08z I can't find a terminal command for it but it should be "Have file manager handle desktop" under "Desktop" in gnome-tweak-tool17:41
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d08zRocketeer99: this option does not exists in the gnome tools for 16.0417:41
borisetoHi. Is there a plugin for Pidgin/Unity that would create separate protocol icons in Unity/Gnome instead of having the same icon for all windows?17:42
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Rocketeer99d08z: Alright let me take a look17:42
d08zRocketeer99: tyvm17:42
Rocketeer99d08z: Try "Icons on Desktop"?17:43
d08zRocketeer99: already did17:43
d08zRocketeer99: do  you think removing gnome-shell would do it17:43
Rocketeer99Removing gnome-shell and rebooting might work17:44
Rocketeer99But first try "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true" in terminal17:44
TameikiHello, in Ubuntu 16.04, I have weird interfaces name (p2p1 on my server, enp3s0 and wlp4s0 on my laptop). Where can I change that to eth0 and wlan0 ? I have no file in /etc/udev/rules.d/...17:44
d08zRocketeer99: ok well ill try that17:44
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Rocketeer99and I'd say reboot after that before uninstalling gnome shell or at least restart unity with "unity" in terminal17:45
d08zRocketeer99: is it the package "gnome-shell-common"17:46
SchrodingersScatTameiki: I just assumed that's life now, I changed my scripts to enp3s017:46
TameikiSchrodingersScat : There is no way to edit that ?17:47
Rocketeer99d08z: That sounds right? I'll admit I've never installed or uninstalled gnome before17:47
naccTameiki: why does it matter? also read about predictable interface naming17:47
Rocketeer99d08z: http://askubuntu.com/questions/396280/how-to-revert-unity-and-remove-gnome-desktop17:47
fasdfdHi, I need help with wget.17:47
fasdfdwget -r --convert-links --no-directories --level=1 --no-parent --include /user/username,/music http://www.last.fm/user/username17:48
fasdfdWhy doesn't this save the stuff in last.fm/music?17:48
Rocketeer99fasdfd: does that save things in the working directory or just not work at all?17:48
naccfasdfd: what version of ubuntu? i don't see a --include in `man wget` on 16.0417:48
Tameikinacc, Where I can saw the predictable interface name ? It matters because I always had eth and wlan interfaces. Those names make sense... "emp3s0" and "wlp3s0" is not obvious...17:48
naccTameiki: why do you care what they are called?17:49
fasdfdIt does, just not omits the music folder..17:49
Tameikinacc, Habitude... Maybe ?17:49
naccTameiki: eth* is the kernel's namespace, that's why it was changed, has no correlation to anything a user knows (necessarily)17:49
fasdfdnacc, I was using man on the gnu.org page, perhaps that's the reason, but note that the built in man wget seems to be shortened.17:49
naccfasdfd: ah that could be17:50
Tameikinacc, I found some rules file in /lib/udev/rules.d/17:50
naccTameiki: you can google around for the predictable naming stuff, it's pretty widely known at this point17:50
naccTameiki: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ e.g.17:51
fasdfdRocketeer99, it seems to be only downloading things in the /user/username folder and only some others and it doesn't convert all the links..17:52
naccTameiki: as a desktop user, there is very little reason (unless something isn't working), to even know what your interfaces are named, IMO. Just use the network. For more complicated configurations, perhaps it makes sense to know17:53
Tameikinacc, But I'm also a server user so...17:53
fasdfdor when I run it with --no-parent instead of --include, it downloads some things that can't be reached with one click on the webpage..17:54
fasdfdof course with level=1 specified17:54
naccTameiki: ok, then you should know how to read `ip addr`, `ifconfig`, etc. output; and the device name is just a label17:54
Tameikinacc, Yes, of course I know17:55
TameikiBut... The "why" I want to change the label isn't the question here... My question is "how". Because I "prefer", as an "habitude", to read "eth" and "wlan" interfaces...17:55
lolzeranyone here knows online poker app for ubuntu?17:56
CIclopsis it ok to install gcc 4.9 on 14.04.4?17:56
jattyes17:57
fasdfdI runned wget -r --convert-links --no-directories --level=1 --no-parent http://www.last.fm/user/username and it downloaded www.last.fm/user/username/library/music/Artist/Album which is not linked on www.last.fm/user/username/library/music/Artist/Album17:57
Tameikinacc, But I found the answer, by the way.17:57
naccCIclops: ok in what sense?17:58
naccCIclops: i don't believe it's provided by ubuntu on 14.0417:59
swati_27Please see17:59
swati_27https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/LvIO5cH0/18:00
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faLUCEhello. I have to install ubuntu on this mini-pc  http://it.gigabyte.com/products/page/desktop_platform/gb-bxceh-3205rev_10  . Can I install AMD 64 bit version on it?18:01
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baizonfaLUCE: yes18:02
faLUCEbaizon: thanks18:02
swati_27Please help with the above error.18:03
CIclopsjatt, ta .. got 6861 running now :)18:06
stephankettererhello, newbie here with a problem, hoping to find a gentle soul to help me :)18:12
Broseidonquasi newbie here. maybe i can help you18:13
stephankettereri got a brand new gtx 1070, and i simply don't get it to install, tell me anything that would make it work, even if i have to reinstall the os, i do not care, i just want this card to work under ubuntu18:13
liveRunning SOLOS Linux I cant use apt-get   or yum    why?18:14
fasdfdwhat drivers do you have stephanketterer18:14
livecomand not found18:14
vm096_ live: because it use another pack manager18:15
vm096_like packman etc18:15
vm096_i dont know what solos use to manage packges18:15
uncle_beni have a dvd that was made at a school using some kind of mac and some kind of dvd authoring program...i want to transcode it, but can't see any files, either using 'ls' or pacmanfm18:15
stephankettererfasdfd, i downloaded the newest (the ones that were released for the new cards.. but i cannot install it.. all errors about x something and nouvou..) i am a really a beginner... so my plan was to just put the card in there and reinstall ubuntu.. but that just gives me a black screen18:16
ubuntu__is there away find out what /dev/... device file is being used by which kernel modules? Is there a method thru /proc  or modinfo , or some other command like lsof for device files to link what application is using them and which modules are using which ones18:16
fasdfdstephanketterer, search for additional drivers in dash18:16
vm096_ubuntu_ try research about lsof18:16
Broseidonsetphanketterer are you just getting a blank desktop? can you open a TTY terminal (control + alt + f5)18:17
Broseidonoh and control + alt + f7 to come back to your normal desktop if you do that18:18
vm096_stephanketterer did you try to enable it on bios?18:18
vm096_black screen after install?18:19
stephankettererno when i boot from usb18:19
stephankettererto install ubuntu18:19
stephankettereri get a black screen18:19
stephanketterervm096_i am sorry but what does enabling in bios means ?18:19
stephankettererit is stuck in an pci slot18:20
stephankettererdon't think that its disabled18:20
vm096_some motherboard have to enable pci18:20
Bayamis anyone have a socmed (social media) likes facebook, line, blackberry msg, could  you invite/add me? lets talk *sorry for my bad english :)18:20
vm096_yes but perhaps18:20
stephanketterernah because i did not change the settings18:20
vm096_ok18:20
Broseidonstephanketterer is the card working as expected with windows etc?18:20
stephankettererand it worked with my older card perfectly18:20
vm096_do you have another way to connect the display, direct on motherboard?18:21
stephankettererhave not tested it with windows.. but i get a picture.. sometimes.. when i try the fail safe mode or whatever it is called18:21
stephankettererso the card is able to produce images18:21
stephankettererso its not dead :)18:21
stephanketterervm096 i think so18:21
vm096_ok now that you tell us that18:21
stephankettereri am sure i sound like a dumbass.. sorry for that18:21
stephanketterernot intentional :)18:21
vm096_no problem18:21
Broseidonsetphanketterer so the ubuntu installer itself just goes blank?18:22
ubuntu__ya well lsof gives me the device files associated to any of the process , libraries ,..etc but it say's nothing about LKM devices they are using18:22
stephankettereryes unfortunately18:22
stephankettererand i cannot use windows for what i am running ( tensor flow)18:22
stephankettererso i have to get it going under ubuntu18:22
vm096_did you tru to do what Broseidon said18:22
vm096_*try18:22
stephankettererok give me a second18:23
stephankettererwill put it in again and try :)18:23
stephankettererand thank you for listening to me18:23
FoeHammeredNeither apt-get nor Synaptic can seem to download any packages right now. What could be wrong? How can I try to fix that?18:23
Broseidonanother thing you can try is booting your ubuntu installer drive legacy instead of uefi, it's also possible you have a corrupt ubuntu ISO, I've had issues like this before at random18:24
BroseidonFoehammered what happens when you try to use apt-get?18:24
ubuntu__is there any way to list the device files used by a particular  LKM or at least the major and minor numbers of the associated device files the LKM uses18:25
vm096_Broseidon, uefi mode can affect pci devices to work property?18:25
FoeHammered0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::16)]18:25
stephankettererok18:25
FoeHammeredIndefinitely.18:25
stephankettererso it boots in windows  without problems, obv resolution wrong because of the missing driver18:25
Broseidonvm096_ just trying to see if his installer will work without the graphical boot18:26
vm096_FoeHammered try to check apt repositories18:26
stephankettererok.. so18:26
stephankettererknow now that the card works18:26
stephankettererthat is a start18:26
FoeHammeredvm096_: How do I do that?18:26
CIclopsdoes 6861 need additional packages to support voice on 64bit Ubuntu 14.04?  6157 works fine18:27
vm096_FoeHammered: u can check on /etc/apt/18:27
ubuntu__i know lspci -k shows the kernel drivers or LKM associated with each pci device but there isn't a way i can go from what you get from lsmod to what each LKM uses if any for device files?18:27
FoeHammeredWhat would I be looking for, vm096_?18:28
vm096_ubuntu__: was to u that I tell to check about lsof?18:28
vm096_on sources.list file18:29
vm096_cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list18:29
ubuntu__ya and that only works for  things that are not  LKM as far as i know how to uses it18:29
vm096_what do you have?18:29
vm096_ubuntu__: ok good to know :)18:29
ubuntu__do you know of a method for LKM to device files and visa-versa for a way to analysis  those things18:30
FoeHammered99 lines. A great deal of commented out text (that is, lots of #, that's what that is, right?)18:31
FoeHammered     6deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted18:31
FoeHammered     7deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted18:31
FoeHammeredFor example.18:31
FoeHammeredShould I pastebin it, vm096_ ?18:31
vm096_so try to disable that first url that give you an error when you try apt-get update18:34
FoeHammeredComment it out?18:34
vm096_yes18:34
vm096_# url with problem18:34
zykotick9FoeHammered: 1) has it ever worked?  2) are you sure you have internet working?  3) are you on some company/school network that could be blocking the connection?  finally, best of luck regardless!18:34
* FoeHammered hasn't ever done this, so he is floundering a little.18:34
timvisheri just noticed that `/var/run` appears to not exist at boot time on an ubuntu 14.04 system. init.d services that rely on being able to write to that directory fail despite the fact that once the machine is booted, the symlink exists. is that expected?18:34
vm096_zykotic9 is right18:35
FoeHammeredzykotick9: 1) Yeah, this is new as of this morning. 2) I'm chatting on IRC and looking at videos on the same device. 3) There's a minor firewall in our apartment building, but it hasn't been a problem for this in the past... Maybe something changed with it.18:35
FoeHammeredI'm a bit new to all this, so it'll be slow going while I remember simple commands, I fear.18:36
zykotick9FoeHammered: does "ping us.archive.ubuntu.com" work?  ctrl+c to cancel it.18:36
FoeHammered(Oddly, I remembered ctrl-c, but that is, it's true, exactly the kind of command I'm not yet accustomed to. Thanks.) 64 bytes from economy.canonical.com (91.189.91.23): icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=94.3 ms18:37
spudowiar1was randall in this room?18:37
zykotick9FoeHammered: so, you can still connect to us.archive.ubunut.com at least on the ICMP ports...  but the firewall could be blocking whatever port apt uses?  I don't really have any other suggestions...  so, best of luck.18:39
vm096_try to mv source.list and try to build again18:39
swati_27is mariadb not supported for kubuntu 16.04?18:39
zykotick9FoeHammered: be careful not to delete that sources.list, i doubt it'll be recreated (i think that comes from installer, but could be wrong)18:39
vm096_sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list ~/18:40
nacc!info mariadb-server xenial | swati_2718:40
ubottuswati_27: mariadb-server (source: mariadb-10.0): MariaDB database server (metapackage depending on the latest version). In component universe, is optional. Version 10.0.25-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 12 kB, installed size 60 kB18:40
vm096_sudo software-properties-gtk18:40
FoeHammeredzykotick9: So I should back it up.18:40
jmssHi, what is oracle-java9-installer? From http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html is seems JDK is the latest.18:40
FoeHammeredvm096_: Is that how you back it up?18:40
FoeHammeredvm096_: Um, build again?18:41
swati_27https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Hc2t0liu/18:41
swati_27Is still doesn't work...18:41
swati_27*It18:41
zykotick9FoeHammered: vm096_'s mv command will move it from /etc/apt to your home directory (thus it could be moved back, when required)18:41
vm096_with #$ sudo software-properties-gtk - you will define new repo config18:41
FoeHammeredSounds like a plan.18:42
vm096_yes18:42
vm096_if not18:42
vm096_just copy back sources.list from ~/sources.list => /etc/apt/18:42
FoeHammeredIndeed.18:42
FoeHammeredBacking up things like this is always a good idea before messing with it, I imagine.18:43
FoeHammeredOkay, so I've sudo software-properties-gtk, and it's brought up a graphical frontend thingy?18:43
FoeHammeredSoftware & Updates.18:43
FoeHammeredWhat now?18:43
swati_27https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/h6zyDH7W/18:43
vm096_so just check18:45
vm096_cononical18:45
vm096_and select your country download from18:46
* FoeHammered nods, thinks he's done that.18:46
FoeHammeredJust now, I mean, as per your instructions.18:46
spudowiar1Does anyone know what nick Randall Ross uses on IRC?18:46
FoeHammeredvm096_: Press close?18:47
vm096_yes18:47
FoeHammeredUpdating cache.18:47
vm096_try to sudo apt-get update now18:48
vm096_without now*18:48
vm096_sudo apt-get update18:48
FoeHammeredSays it's downloaded structure of ppa.lanchpad.net/wine/wine-builds/ubunsomethingsomething.18:48
FoeHammeredAlso another I added with an openxcom beta.18:48
FoeHammeredIt seems to be taking its time downloading from wine/wine-builds, though...18:49
craptalkwhat channel to ask about computer graphic materials?18:49
vm096_do you have another files with ext .list on /etc/apt18:49
vm096_check if is there now18:50
vm096_a new file sources.list18:50
FoeHammeredI do see a sources.list there.18:50
vm096_ok18:50
FoeHammeredLooks like it was modified 4 minutes ago.18:50
vm096_so it was recreated like you did.18:50
CIclops1.8.7/6861 on 64bit Ubuntu linux .... voice not working (SLVoice not loaded)18:50
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vm096_try to see if it = with old18:51
vm096_sources.list18:51
FoeHammeredEven while it's still updating caches in another window?18:51
vm096_md5sum /etc/apt/sources.list18:51
vm096_md5sum ~/sources.list18:51
FoeHammeredI suspect it's hanged.18:51
vm096_ok18:51
vm096_did you see another file18:52
vm096_with ext .list18:52
vm096_on apt folder18:52
FoeHammeredOnly sources.list and sources.list.save18:52
zykotick9vm096_: fyi, PPAs and such will probably be in a subfolder /etc/apt/sources.list.d/18:52
vm096_and is there a folder called18:53
vm096_sources.list.d18:53
vm096_any inside?18:53
FoeHammeredBy the way, the md5sum results. 35bd8d338edec72bec9eb7a0ce356c3f  /etc/apt/sources.list | 8ce46d04a4cfe3014e9e8e3d3e3ebedd  /home/me/sources.list18:53
FoeHammeredThere's four files in that directory. An openxcom and a wine-builds.18:54
vm096_so they are different, nice18:54
vm096_so18:54
vm096_try to rename this folder18:54
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vm096_sources.list.d to sources.list.d.bkp18:54
vm096_and then create a new one18:54
vm096_sudo mkdir sources.list.d18:55
FoeHammeredOh.18:55
FoeHammeredI think it finally finished updating those cashes except, uh... odd...18:55
vm096_and then sudo apt-get update -y18:55
vm096_so its solved?18:55
FoeHammered...dunno, I think it's because I md5summed.18:56
FoeHammeredFuddrucker, no timestamps.18:56
vm096_ok18:56
vm096_try to sudo apt-get update -y18:56
FoeHammeredhttp://pastebin.com/jErt1ceC , the output.18:56
FoeHammeredSure.18:56
FoeHammeredBah. This doesn't look good.18:57
FoeHammered0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::16)]18:57
vm096_cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list18:57
FoeHammered     1deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main18:58
FoeHammeredThat's it.18:58
FoeHammeredNo wonder they're different.18:59
vm096_ok that is good18:59
vm096_no problem18:59
vm096_is there18:59
FoeHammeredOh, right, sorry, I didn't get around to renaming that .d back there.18:59
FoeHammeredI think I was busy md5summing.18:59
FoeHammeredShould I go back and do that?18:59
vm096_no19:00
vm096_needed19:00
vm096_I think you have to try another country repo19:00
FoeHammeredOh. Okay.19:00
FoeHammeredsudo software-properties-gtk?19:00
vm096_yes19:00
vm096_I will put your repo on my machine and try19:01
vm096_wait19:01
FoeHammeredOkay. I'll wait. I've got a Choose a Download Server window open now, but it'll sit.19:01
vm096_dude19:04
vm096_here it work fine19:04
vm096_Hit:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease19:04
vm096_Reading package lists... Done19:04
* FoeHammered sighs.19:05
FoeHammeredAny suggestions on how to isolate the problem?19:05
FoeHammeredI could reboot, I suppose.19:06
vm096_yeah go ahead19:06
vm096_I need too19:06
FoeHammeredBe back in a bit.19:06
vm096_so do I19:06
vm096_kkk19:06
upphello, my google-chrome .config folder is 8GB ?? can any one explain that for me?19:12
ubuntu__ curious on linux i am trying to understand low level sound LKM files these are what i get from lsmod for sound  http://pastebin.com/KpMy9NXp19:12
ubuntu__ The main kernel driver LKM is snd_hda_intel but kind of wondering what the other ones are for19:12
ubuntu__ lsmod gives me that they Used by alot of different ones inter relate / uses one another19:12
ubuntu__ snd_hda_intel humm just curious and confused alittle about why lspci -k displays that one LKM for controlling the sound card hardware but clearly there is many modules that are associated with sound19:12
ubuntu__ some depend on each other some are not used by any others19:12
ubuntu__ so what makes the distinction between the  snd_hda_int19:12
FoeHammeredMrf. HexChat can't connect anymore after I've rebooted.19:13
FoeHammeredI'll be back in a bit. I'm gonna ask if they messed with the firewall.19:13
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FoeHammeredvm096: hexchat can't connect to anything after I've rebooted.19:15
FoeHammeredIncluding this.19:15
FoeHammeredI'm here via my Firefox.19:15
uppmy .config/google-chrome folder is 8GB ?? can any one explain that for me?19:15
FoeHammeredI'll be back in a bit. I'm gonna ask if they messed with the firewall.19:16
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cherry_linis "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null" for each core a good enough as a test for CPU cooling system?19:17
fasdfdupp, simple chrome is sh**, delete that folder and you have 8 gigs free, and probably settings removed19:18
fasdfdalternatively upp do this in chrome19:18
uppfasdfd: the Problem is not to delete it, the Problem is why itÄs 8GB19:18
fasdfdupp, ctrl shift delete19:19
geniiupp: They might have a better answer why in the #chromium channel. Since Chrome is not open source, there's no way to know what it's doing or if that folder is supposed to be that size.19:19
uppfasdfd: shift delete do that19:19
fasdfdupp, well, if you didn't mess with your settings then im guessing its normal. Perhaps you can find some option like Firefox's local cache limit, 350MB is totally fine for me19:20
uppfasdfd: 8 gigs is not normal xD19:21
fasdfdupp, youd be surprised how much cache can apps accumulate... im limiting this whenever i can19:21
geniiupp: As I said earlier... the problem is no one except the devs which know how the application actually works would know if that is a normal thing or not. So those guys you need to ask about it specifically are in the #chromium channel.19:22
vm096FoeHammered19:28
vm096here ..19:29
vm096but we do nothing with your internet we, just manage repositories19:29
Blasshello19:36
BlassI have a cuestion19:37
pauljw!ask | Blass19:38
ubottuBlass: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:38
SchrodingersScat!ask | Blass19:38
SchrodingersScat;(19:38
pauljw:)19:38
Blassok19:38
Guest49184Hey , i just installed Gnome on Ubuntu 16.04 . I find it hard to get rid of the panel you get when i right click .. Can anyone help me here? im new19:42
fasdfdGuest49184, the dash kind of panel?19:43
TurboKrakenLooking for some help with a sound issue. I can get sound out of the computer just not chromium or firefox (youtube/google music). Anyone have some insight or a place for me to start?19:43
OerHeksTurboKraken, installed restricted extras?19:43
luxitaniumTurboKraken try installing ffmpeg19:43
luxitaniumsudo apt install ffmpeg ffmpeg-extras19:44
Guest49184fasdfd , the one which says new folder , open terminal etc19:44
naccubuntu__: read the kernel source to find out?19:44
Guest49184the panel doesnt go away19:44
fasdfdGuest49184, I don't understand what the issue is with it.19:44
Guest49184unless i click left-click right click of the panel19:44
Guest49184the right side*19:45
TurboKrakenOerHeks: I do not have RE installed.19:45
ubuntu__ok but i understand  there is usually an LKM for each device but when would you have an LKM that was not associated with a device other then just for fun / hacking purposes19:45
OerHeks!restricted19:45
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:45
TurboKrakenOerHeks: Thanks19:46
ShogootHi people. Im having a trouble to get nwetwork to work on a HP Pavilion Entertainment Pc (it has a broadcom wifi). Ubutnu 16.04 intalls fine, bu i dont get neighter ethernet nor wifi connection.19:46
OerHeksand restart your browser after that*19:46
TurboKrakenluxitanium: I installed and will try it in a second. Thank you for the post.19:46
Guest49184fasdfd , how can i show you an image perhaps?19:47
naccubuntu__: i'm not sure i follow your question (probably better asked in #linux anyways)19:47
ShogootHi people. Im having a trouble to get nwetwork to work on a HP Pavilion Entertainment Pc (it has a broadcom wifi). Ubutnu 16.04 intalls fine, bu i dont get neighter ethernet nor wifi connection. Ive googled but all i get is how to fix the wifi (as it has broadcom), but not the thernet. I know ethernet was working as i had a vista os on it until yestrday and ethernet was working proplery.19:47
fasdfdGuest49184, imgur.com perhaps19:47
Guest49184ok19:47
ubuntu__what i am asking is if we have snd_hwd_intel for the interrupt handler and LKM used for the sound card then why do you need the rest of the LKM for sound19:48
naccubuntu__: as just mentioned, not really an ubuntu support question -- the kernel does more than route interrupts, so there might be software layers above it provided by other modules.19:49
luxitaniumShogoot have you been able to connect to the internet on the installed system already?19:49
Shogootluxitanium, no, that is my problem :)19:49
naccubuntu__: i would recommend you read the kernel source for the modules in question, to see what they provide.19:49
AkuliI just installed ubuntu 12.04 (yes, i know its old), and to get a desktop environment i installed the xfce4 package. it's missing icons. which package do i need?19:50
luxitaniumit's a known bug with network manager, I had it myself, my laptop also has Broadcom wifi.19:50
luxitaniumcheck this answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/763785/why-wired-internet-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts19:50
EriC^^Akuli: how did you install xfce4?19:50
Akulisudo apt-get install xfce419:50
Shogootluxitanium, ill look ai it asap. thx so far19:51
ubuntu__right but these modules don't have to directly go thru the  interrupt handler  i see so how can they call the snd_hwd_intel the kernel driver or main LKM used  when tracking down sound problems how does one locate the exact module / LKM that needs to be replaced19:51
Akulibut it turns out i just needed to select an icon theme in the preferences19:51
Akuliso its up and running now :)19:51
EriC^^Akuli: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^19:51
EriC^^might be better19:51
Akulii don't want that19:51
Akulithe computer has a 12GB hard drive19:51
EriC^^ok19:51
Akuliand ubuntu is only a little part of it19:51
ubuntu__that is kind of what all this is getting at being able to locate/find the exact location of the hardware issue19:51
Akulibut now i mostly have working icons19:51
EriC^^ok cool19:51
Guest49184http://imgur.com/0rRuYGc19:52
Akulivery little free ram, of course19:52
Guest49184cant get rid of it unless i left-click right side of this http://imgur.com/0rRuYGc19:52
curlyearsheigh hough19:52
fasdfdGuest49184 and it appears by itself? I think it's a bug19:54
ubuntu__And if linux does not have an LKM built in to support a new device installed where do you get the driver or LKM for the new device or are you pretty much screwed until somebody figures out the spec's and writes a LKM for the new hardware?19:54
Guest49184Doesn't happen in Unity though19:54
naccubuntu__: what does this have to do with Ubuntu support?19:54
curlyearswhat the &^%^& us LKM?19:55
fasdfdGuest49184, I think a good idea would be to try Ubuntu GNOME from ubuntugnome.org or LTS version of Ubuntu which should be more stable, there's also Linux Mint.19:55
GuNs``(©©©©©©©©©) chalcedny (©©©©©©©©©)19:55
ubuntu__I have say a new sound card that ubuntu doesn't supporti want to trouble shoot this say and fix it or know its not possible to fix because there is no current LKM for it19:55
TurboKraken!restricted19:56
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:56
curlyearsLKM?19:56
AkuliWhat is the recommended way to upgrade from ubuntu 12.04?19:56
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Guest49184Ill give a try to ubuntu gnome19:56
Akulii just realized that even though i have only a 6GB for ubuntu its mostly free19:56
naccubuntu__: that's all hypothetical?19:57
nacccurlyears: "Linux Kernel Module", I think...19:57
ubuntu__loadable kernel module or kernel driver program or  driver for the device19:57
EriC^^Akuli: sudo do-release-upgrade19:57
Guest49184Can you explain what GTK+ , Shell theme and are . Im confused19:57
curlyearsAkuli:  I don't think the newer versions of ubuntu will load and execute properly in only 6.0 GB19:57
EriC^^Akuli: you might want to run sudo apt-get clean first19:57
Akuliwhy is that?19:58
Akulii just installed it from a mini.iso19:58
EriC^^Akuli: in that case nevermind19:58
Akuli:)19:58
ubuntu__I am talking about a hypothetical case yes but this case if i knew how to solve it for this could be generalized to solve any driver problems for other devices not just sound thats why its an important question to solve for linux/unix like os's19:58
Akulii'd probably run an apt-get upgrade first, at least19:58
naccubuntu__: not an ubuntu support question!19:58
curlyearsAkuli:  then why did you ask?  I believe I remembered version 14.04.4 saying it required 6.5GB or so of disk space19:59
curlyearsfor desktoop19:59
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Akulicurlyears, i don't believe that :) 12.04 uses 1.4GB with xfce, it can't be that huge :)19:59
Akulii could probably get it even smaller by cleaning up some stuff19:59
k1l_Akuli: you can install the minimal install and then install selected packages19:59
Akulithats what i do20:00
curlyearsAkuli:  OK, then I rmembered incorrectly.  Mea Culpa20:00
FoeHammeredvm096, I have no idea why Hexchat suddenly decided it worked after I left my computer for a while.20:00
Guest49184GTK , Window managers and Shell themes are making me confused20:00
AkuliGuest49184, which one do you want to know about first?20:00
Guest49184GTK20:00
Akulisure20:00
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AkuliGuest49184, its a toolkit that most of the applications you run use to make windows20:01
Akulibasically20:01
vm096are u playing on virtualbox?20:01
FoeHammeredvm096: Mrf. And now it can't find Stellarium.20:01
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SCCMAvengerhas anyone gotten Skype for Business to work on Ubuntu or is there a alternative20:02
Guest49184if so , whats the difference of the window manager?20:02
AkuliGuest49184, window manager is a lower level thing20:02
curlyearsWonder when they'll port 64 bit ubuntu to this beast?   http://www.pddnet.com/2016/06/worlds-first-1000-processor-chip-may-be-fastest-ever-created-university?et_cid=5354347&et_rid=811725277&type=cta&et_cid=5354347&et_rid=811725277&linkid=http%3a%2f%2fwww.pddnet.com%2f2016%2f06%2fworlds-first-1000-processor-chip-may-be-fastest-ever-created-universit20:02
curlyearsy%3fet_cid%3d5354347%26et_rid%3d%%subscriberid%%%26type%3dcta20:02
AkuliGuest49184, gtk uses window manager, but window manager doesn't use gtk20:02
nacccurlyears: offtopic :)20:02
Guest49184Ohh20:02
Akuli:)20:02
Guest49184How about shell theme?20:03
Akulii dont know20:03
mariano_I need to install a test kernel that has a patch to a bug i'm experiencing. I don't know how to install it. Can someone help me out?20:03
Akulisomeone else can explain that :)20:03
naccmariano_: what test kernel?20:03
mariano_linux-image-4.4.0-22-generic_4.4.0-22.40+lp1579190_amd64.deb20:03
AkuliGuest49184, there's alternatives to gtk like qt. some applications use qt (like skype and nitroshare), but they all run in the same window manager.20:04
naccmariano_: download said .deb file and `dpkg -i <path to .deb>`20:04
mariano_It addresses a repeated typing of the number 5 for people that have logitech keyboards20:04
naccmariano_: then reboot to that kernel20:04
mariano_ok, thanks20:04
Guest49184I see20:04
fasdfdGuest49184, shell theme just replaces the original theme files, graphics mostly20:05
Akulimariano_, you probably want to run 'apt-get -f install' after that20:05
naccAkuli: ah good call20:05
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Akuliinstalling packages by installing the package first and then dependencies is probably not the best way, but it works well :)20:05
mariano_so it would be: sudo dpkg -i <path to .deb> apt-get -f install?20:06
Guest49184I can only see a difference in the top panel by applying a shell theme , thats all ?20:06
Akulisudo apt-get -f install20:06
fasdfdGuest49184, there can be more AFAIK20:06
Akulimariano_, if you're unsure about using sudo don't use it :) you'll get an error message that tells you to use it. but if you sudo when you don't need to you might break things.20:06
k1l_mariano_: no.20:06
mariano_oh ok20:06
k1l_that are 2 commands.20:06
Akulialso, take off the <> when you run the actual thing :)20:07
Guest49184Ok , thanks guys20:07
mariano_I will. Cool, I'm going to try it now.20:07
naccmariano_: sorry, i gave incomplete information `sudo dpkg -i <path to downloaded .deb file>; sudo apt-get -f install`20:07
EventyretAnyone got the repo or PPA for the Franz messenger, kind of struggling to try just install it and wanted to make a desktop shortcut (Ubuntu Gnome 16)20:07
Guest49184Will give Ubuntugnome a try :)20:07
k1l_sudo dpkg -i kernel-image.deb kernel-headers.deb (that are 2 deb files you need). then sudo apt install -f20:07
nacck1l_: do you need the headers file deb to install the image deb? didn't realize that20:08
k1l_nacc: no you dont. but you need that headers if you want to have your dkms stuff compiled. like video drivers from nvidia etc.20:08
nacc!ppa | Eventyret20:08
ubottuEventyret: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge20:08
k1l_or virtualbox etc.20:08
nacck1l_: ah good point!20:08
Eventyretnacc, I had a look there didn't find anything i know Arch does have a package for it, sadly20:09
OerHeksEventyret, easy to make yourself https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles20:10
EventyretWill that work on Ubuntu Gnome OerHeks?20:11
naccEventyret: not sure i follow; franz is not packaged by Ubuntu (afaict), so you'd have to use their tarball or find a PPA.20:11
naccEventyret: and both those are supported by their respective owners, not here20:11
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Eventyretnacc,  yeah i figured, only thing is i found the tarball no ./configure or make in it so normally its just unzip and double click the "program" and it starts, problem I have was to try add it as a deskop, but its not a SH file so not sure what i enter it as in the path20:12
OerHeksEventyret, are you sure gnome does not make a launcher at all?20:13
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naccEventyret: it's one of those new-fangled node embedded tarballs, probably20:14
EventyretOerHeks, all i done on it was to extract it so its gnome 3, but i would presume i can use the .desktop trick if i understand what to put in the exec path :)20:14
naccEventyret: just put "program" in the patH?20:14
naccEventyret: not sure why that's not obvious :)20:14
Eventyretso the program is just lets say "home/username"download/franz"20:14
Eventyretnothing more i can't see the extention on it :)20:15
naccEventyret: extensions are a windows thing20:15
naccEventyret: so put "home/username/download/franz" as the path20:15
SCCMAvengerhas anyone gotten Skype for Business to work on Ubuntu or is there a alternative20:16
andreas_hi20:18
Eventyretnacc, ok ill give that a go :) thank you :D20:19
EventyretMight be that simple nacc :P20:19
fasdfdSCCMAvenger, look into SIP and Ring. Microsoft hates linux, they dropped support lately.20:20
mariano_I installed linux-image-4.4.0-22-generic_4.4.0-22.40+lp1579190_amd64.deb but when I type 'uname -a' i get back 4.4.0-24-generic #43-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 8 19:27:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux. Did the install not work?20:20
mariano_I rebooted the computer too.20:20
SCCMAvengerMy company uses Skype for Business I can just switch to another messenger :)20:20
naccmariano_: did you boot *to* that kernel specifically? it may not be the default (esp. if you have a later-versioned one installed as well)20:22
naccmariano_: so reboot, hit esc or whatever in grub and pick the right kernel20:22
mariano_I never get a grub menu, the computer just boots to my xubuntu 16.04 desktop.20:22
naccmariano_: i think hold left shift while it boots20:23
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BlitzHere:P That didn't work for me just now, with EFI boot20:23
mariano_nacc: do I have to do that everytime I want to use that kernel?20:24
supahhackahhey20:24
BlitzHereHi all, I need to run this command as root every time I log in for my Bluetooth to work20:24
BlitzHeresudo modprobe -r btusb && sudo modprobe btusb20:24
BlitzHereIs there a way to automate?20:24
naccmariano_: depends on your grub config, but probably20:24
mariano_ok, thanks.20:24
BlitzHereI'm a noob20:24
naccmariano_: and you shouldn't stay on said kernel, as it is missing security fixes20:24
subsumeI disabled my ufw based firewall but i still can't reach the outside world, IP tables seems to still be enabled, what do I do?20:24
naccmariano_: just test it and report back in the bug20:25
mib_mibhi all - i am in the US an dhave servers in a datacenter in europe, and want to set up a vpn server somewhere - should i set up the VPN server in the US or in Europe for optimal speed/latency?20:26
supahhackaheurope20:27
naccmib_mib: doesn't seem like an ubuntu support question; maybe ask in #linux or search through !alis20:27
areebHi20:28
mib_mibok20:29
FoeHammeredvm096: Still having the same problem updating us.archive.ubuntu.com20:29
FoeHammeredIt's entirely possible the problem is in the apartment building's whatsit. They are waiting to replace a broken component.20:30
ywHello, my internet speed on 16.04 box 2x slower than other boxes, any clues what that might be ?20:30
andreas_hi20:32
YankDownUnderyw, Have you checked all the configurations for the driver/card and connection?20:33
ywYankDownUnder - I have done some check, but probably clueless :(, what would be the right way to do so?20:34
YankDownUnderyw, Check the "MTU" of the connection - in some instances the "automatic" setting isn't the best...20:35
TurboKrakenOerHeks: The issue was that I had headphones in the speakers and the system saw the headphones as a separate output. Somewhere in the chain all was lost. Thank you for the documentation.20:37
ywYankDownUnder: http://paste2.org/BUvWImt320:37
thnaksmy modprobe tun returns nothing20:39
thnakshow can I turn it on?20:39
EventyretI added the file nacc, (the desktop file) named it franz.desktop still can't find it20:39
YankDownUnderyw, Which is the connection you use - the wired ethernet or the wireless...? And have you set IPv4 to be the primary connection protocol or IPv6?20:39
Eventyretnacc, i put it in /usr/share/applications20:40
thnaksanyone else have the same issue with vpn?20:41
ywYankDownUnder - it's wired, not sure how to say IPv6 or IPv4 I see both in the wired info, but when I run test (via http://speedtest.xfinity.com/)  it runs only one tests and I know when it has IPv6 it'd run tow tests20:43
Eventyretnacc, I got it thank you :D made a shortcut :D20:44
bigpicnewb here.. can anyone tell me what the “auto” keyword represents in /etc/network/interfaces?20:45
bigpictry to figure out how to specify a default route across multiple interfaces20:45
YankDownUnderyw, Check the connection settings in the control centre...is your "internet connection" based on IPv6 or IP v4? Just asking - either which, check the settings in the control centre...as well, you might want to find out if there is a 3d party driver for this NIC...and I'm only making statements based on logical assumption of the data you've given20:47
subsumePlease help, I can't seem to disable UFW or iptables and I can't reach the outside world.20:48
Guest6972Hi guys20:48
Guest6972I have stuck at this bug since long. Please help https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/158842820:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1588428 in linux (Ubuntu) "PCI bus error on startup while booting into login screen (Kubuntu 16.04)" [Medium,Confirmed]20:49
MalinuxBashing-om: Is it possible to find some how reverse dependencies, to find out what application is using a package? :)20:50
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OerHeksrdepends > apt-cache rdepends packagename20:51
ywYankDownUnder:  unity-control-center wired connection shows both ipv4 and ip620:51
YankDownUnderyw, Is the MTU set to automatic?20:52
OerHeksto clean it up a little: apt-cache rdepends --installed packagename20:52
CyllHi. Sometimes when I leave my computer on sleep mode, when I return the mouse vanishes completely. What do you think might be the problem? Using Ubuntu 16.04.20:54
CyllLike the pointer for the mouse*20:54
ywYankDownUnder:  - how can I tell ?http://paste2.org/k4zOxkVO20:54
CyllI am able to click things but the pointer itself is gone.20:54
YankDownUnderyw, It's in the configuration for the connection. In the GUI. In the control centre. Either which, here's a very simple question to base everything on: When did this last work correctly and what changed since that time?20:57
CyllHi. Sometimes when I leave my computer on sleep mode, when I return the mouse pointer vanishes completely. What do you think might be the problem? Using Ubuntu 16.04. (Slight correction)20:57
vm096_hi20:57
vm096_try rfkill?20:57
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vm096_Cyll: return this pls $sudo rfkill list all20:59
Bashing-omMalinux: The thing here I think .. is that these are libraries .. and many packages will have these libraries common . With out knowing what installed package broke the system will be near impossible to isolate . Just my thought .20:59
ywYankDownUnder - its a good question, I suspect (can't test now as I can't reboot atm) but the only unusual ot the box is that it's connected to the usb powered backbox switch, may it's to blame, not sure, but will test later20:59
YankDownUnderyw, There is always the solution of: When all else fails, turn everything off, then turn everything on.21:00
Bashing-omGuest6972: This a lap top .. and if so .,.. what manufacturer ?21:00
Cyllvm096_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17716891/21:00
feneco do you know any software that i can use to quickly add arrows and circles in images?21:00
ywYankDownUnder - yes :) finally got it MTU - set to automatic21:01
YankDownUnderfeneco, Scribus, GIMP...21:01
YankDownUnderyw, Coolbeans21:01
Cyllfeneco: GIMP ?21:01
YankDownUnderyw, Set it to automatic, disconnect/reconnect...should work a charm21:01
fenecogimp does not create arrows quickly YankDownUnder  Cyll21:01
feneco:(21:02
ywYankDownUnder will try thx for helping !21:02
vm096_Cyll: can you try put this on a script on your desktop to open it with you mouse by clicking, after this turn log off or try to do what are blocking keyboard, so you can check it with rfkill by click with your mouse21:02
Cyllfeneco: https://www.maketecheasier.com/draw-arrows-in-gimp/21:02
vm096_I dont know if I explain clear sorry21:02
YankDownUnderfeneco, Um...hmm...yes it does...get a BRUSH that is an ARROW or a CIRCLE...that function has been there since the beginning...21:02
MalinuxBashing-om: I see. I should go through my qt-dependent applications perhaps?21:02
fenecoCyll: this is not practical21:02
YankDownUnderyw, Coolbeans21:02
Guest6972Bashing-om, yes it is a laptop. Manufacturer-HP ( More details in the link)21:03
Cyllfeneco: Isn't much easier in Windows Paint? Dunno what to tell you21:03
fenecowanted something like skitch21:03
fenecoYankDownUnder: there arent these brushes by default21:04
Cyllvm096_: I don't understand what you're saying partially.21:04
fenecohttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LQZqoX54/21:04
Bashing-omMalinux: I too tend to think it is a qt5 package . Maybe see what you have installed recrently .. As I assume this sytem broke recently after an attempted install ??21:04
YankDownUnderfeneco, Scribus21:04
fenecogoing to try that21:04
fenecothanks21:05
fenecoscribus doesnt seem to work with image files21:07
Bashing-omGuest6972: Maybe consider this an ACPI issue .. what returns ' sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows ' . Maybe change the OSI() table entry ?21:07
Guest6972Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/17717239/21:09
Bashing-omGuest6972: look'n .21:10
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Bashing-omGuest6972: Test this : Reboot, hold down shift until the GRUB boot menu shows. Highlight the Ubuntu entry, press 'E' to edit it. Navigate to the line starting "linux ...", where you see "quiet splash" insert BEFORE those the string -  INCLUDING the outer quote marks - "acpi_osi=Windows 2012" so the line end looks like "  "acpi_osi=Windows 2012" quiet splash", THEN press either Ctrl+X, or F10, to boot with that change21:11
thnakshow I can install kernel modules21:14
thnaksI cant create vpn tunnels21:14
thnaksno tun module21:14
thnakslooked all over the internet no help21:14
joi1ciao21:18
joi1!list21:18
ubottujoi1: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».21:18
MalinuxBashing-om: Not sure when it broke, or if I understood you right.21:19
Cyll Hi. Sometimes when I leave my computer on sleep mode, when I return the mouse pointer vanishes completely. What do you think might be the problem? Using Ubuntu 16.04. (Slight correction)21:22
Bashing-omMalinux: Others here surely have the greater experience with this . What I have in mind is to remove the elevated library(S). See what breaks and try and rebuild with the correct version libraries . NOT the best thing to do but I can come up with no better thing .21:23
YankDownUnderCyll, Wireless or connected?21:23
MalinuxBashing-om: okey21:25
CyllYankDownUnder: Wireless. I can click and everything, but the pointer just goes away21:25
YankDownUnderCyll, So it's safe to assume that you've turned off the wireless mouse, waited a few seconds, and then turned it on again, hmm?21:26
Bashing-omMalinux: Ya want to break .. or perhaps best to see what - say OerHeks - thinks ?21:26
CyllYes it is YankDownUnder21:26
MalinuxBashing-om: We can wait for his opinion. I am looking around to find out how to list recently installed applications21:27
YankDownUnderCyll, If you hit "CTRL+ALT+F1", which takes you to the first TTY, and then "CTRL+ALT+F7" - and the desktop is back, does the cursor show up?21:27
Bashing-omMalinux: The log file /var/log/dpkg.log ..  should say .21:28
CyllYankDownUnder : I'll try reproducing the scenario and trying that, one moment.21:28
MalinuxBashing-om: okey :)21:28
aleks_   /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER aleks_ ssesgrklwcws21:28
Bashing-omaleks_: Time for a new password ?21:29
CyllYankDownUnder: Yes it does :o21:29
aleks_join aleks_21:29
arunsHi, having an issue with System Settings / sound.21:29
Ben64aleks_: don't try doing irc commands in a channel window, use the server window or status, or a pm to yourself or something21:30
arunsSystems Settings menu item not linking when I click it in the dropdown menu on toolbar.21:30
arunsI click the menu item but Systems Settings not launching.21:30
arunsRunning Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS.21:31
CyllYankDownUnder: So I guess that's the rudimentary fix for it or?21:32
YankDownUnderCyll, As well, when you "put the computer to sleep" - you might turn off the wireless mouse...and then when you "wake it up", turn on the mouse after the "sleep"...strange one, that...mine certainly doesn't do that...but then again...21:33
CyllOkay.21:33
OerHeks!cookie | YankDownUnder21:33
ubottuYankDownUnder: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!21:33
CyllI'll do that Yank, thanks :321:33
* YankDownUnder giggle and has a coffee instead21:34
OerHekscertainly an acpi issue, or timing to get the mouse out of sleep too.21:34
root__hii21:35
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Bashing-omGuest6972: Luck ? Any change with the added boot parameter ?21:37
CyllYankDownUnder: Giggling on an IRC? :O21:37
Jordan_Uaruns: Assuming you're talking about Gnome Control Center, please pastebin the output of "gnome-control-center" run from a terminal.21:37
CyllI think I might be asleep, still.21:38
arunsJordan_U: Hi, I fixed, but thanks anyway.21:39
YankDownUnderCyll, I've been awake for 2 hours, reading through the channels, the web - everything is basically silly.21:39
arunsJordan_U: Trouble is, running Ubuntu on 11 year old laptop.21:39
arunsSo it can be a bit sluggish.21:39
Jordan_Uaruns: How did you fix it?21:39
arunsJordan_U: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop21:39
Jordan_Uaruns: Cool. Glad you were able to figure it out.21:39
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arunsWhich restores defaults, I think.21:39
CyllYankDownUnder: Well glad you're so cheery. :321:40
YankDownUnderCyll, I didn't wake up dead. That would have determined my mood.21:40
arunsJordan_U: Yeah. The trouble is, my laptop freezes just when I want to troubleshoot lol.21:40
arunsI strongly recommend installing Linux distros on older machines, like I did with mine, because if anything goes wrong.21:40
arunsAt least it's not a new machine you've screwed up.21:40
Jordan_Uaruns: It ensures that all of the packages that are installed by default are installed.21:41
arunsJordan_U: Yeah, so I will need to remove Firefox lol21:41
arunsToo RAM-intensive.21:41
arunsI've only got 990 MB of RAM.21:41
Jordan_Uaruns: Having it installed but not in use doesn't hurt anything.21:41
arunsJordan_U: I guess not, I just don't like having Firefox.21:42
arunsIts logo is too ugly.21:42
Jordan_Uaruns: You might try Xubuntu or Lubuntu though. They are designed to be more light weight.21:42
arunsJordan_U: I know, I'm just too comfortable using Unity.21:42
arunsEven though it's slowing my machine down.21:43
arunsxD21:43
CyllYankDownUnder: Yay, not dead.21:43
YankDownUnderaruns, Knowing that you prefer "Unity" as your DM/WM, have you tried WindowMaker or XFce or LxDE? Just asking...recently did a "migration" for someone on an ancient laptop and they kinda dig WindowMaker (very ancient window mangler)21:45
arunsYankDownUnder: I've thought about trying XFCE.21:45
YankDownUnderaruns, Very low on resource(s)21:46
ubntukybrdI'm using a Logitech mouse and keyboard with the Unifying receiver and every few minutes my computer stops showing keyboard input but the mouse continues to work without issue. Sometimes the input from the keyboard comes rushing in but is missing letters. I've tried new batteries, moving the receiver, and more importantly a differ WIRED keyboard. The wired keyboard has the same issue -- meanwhile wireless mouse still chugging alo21:46
arunsYankDownUnder: Excellent. Does XFCE have a similar search function to the Unity Dash?21:46
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skatelouisSo not sure how that happened, but sometimes when I enter a software the font looks like it is 4 or 6. Its extremely small, lie 1mm high. Ive been to system-->preference-->look and feel-->appearance then use Font tab. But the only way I can change things to see chat bigger for example is if I go to details and use a high dots per inch. Do you guys know about this21:47
skatelouisnvm manager to found a fix. on mirc at least. Will try to do something for other stuff later21:48
YankDownUnderaruns, http://www.xfce.org/ => when using it, for "search" functions, try: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/whisker-menu-fast-application-launcher.html21:48
arunsYankDownUnder: Excellent, thanks :D21:50
YankDownUnderaruns, All good, mate.21:50
arunsYankDownUnder: So from what I understand, I can choose which desktop environment to boot into on the login screen?21:51
YankDownUnderaruns, Yes.21:51
arunsYankDownUnder: OK. Does that mean that, if I choose to run XFCE for all subsequent user sessions, even if I have Unity installed my laptop won't be slowed down by having Unity installed?21:52
YankDownUnderaruns, You can also add or remove different desktop environments - based on what you "need" or "want"...for me, on servers, I always use the lightest possible desktop - if at all.21:52
arunsYankDownUnder: Or should I uninstall Unity once another desktop manager is installed?21:52
Ben64you're not slowed down by having anything installed21:52
ubntukybrdHow can I troubleshoot a keyboard issue? It stops working for a few seconds then goes normal again. dmesg doesn't show anything like the device getting dropped and reattaching21:53
YankDownUnderaruns, No mate...but again, you can choose to remove what you do not wish to have - especially if "space" is an issue on the machine21:53
YankDownUnderubntukybrd, Wireless keyboard?21:53
arunsI have a 77.6 GB HDD.21:53
arunsYankDownUnder: Which Linux distros do you mostly use for servers? Debian?21:53
ubntukybrdYankDownUnder: Yes but I tried a wired keyboard and it does the same thing. It's a logitech wireless and the receiver is less than 12" away.21:54
YankDownUnderaruns, Well, then space is something for you to think about...if you want to conserve space (albeit not that much) you can choose to remove bits and bobs.21:54
arunsRight, OK, thanks :)21:54
YankDownUnderubntukybrd, Disable bluetooth and try again.21:54
skatelouisHi guys, so I got an issue with running with the cd command on the terminal. I do "ls -d */" to show the folder. But when I type in "cd /skatelouis/" it says : "bash: cd: /skatelouis/: No such file or directory". Is it because I'm from /Home, do I need special access?21:54
arunsskatelouis: Hi, type pwd. Tell me what the output is.21:55
arunsskatelouis: Type pwd in the terminal, that is.21:56
skatelouisits "/home"21:56
ubntukybrdYankDownUnder:  Done. I'll know in a few minutes if that did the trick.21:56
arunsskatelouis: Type cd skatelouis without the leading forward slash21:56
andrew__hey21:57
naccskatelouis: cd /skatelouis says to change directory to skatelouis under /21:57
andrew__this there a problem with unbuntu 16.04 for raspberry pi?21:57
arunsskatelouis: It's because / stands for root, and /skatelouis isn't a root directory.21:57
skatelouisskatelouis@skatelouis-Aspire-3830TG:/home$ cd /skatelouis21:57
skatelouisbash: cd: /skatelouis: No such file or directory21:57
arunsskatelouis: No, cd skatelouis21:57
andrew__evrey time i try to update it, it locks up and i have to start over21:57
naccskatelouis: you were told to type it "witout the leading forward slash"21:57
nacc*without21:58
arunsskatelouis: Don't type in the leading forward slash21:58
ubntukybrdYankDownUnder: So far so good. Thanks.21:58
TikityTikdoes lightdm depend on xinit?21:58
YankDownUnderubntukybrd, Coolbeans21:58
skatelouisjust doing "cd skatelouis"? It removes /home21:58
k1l_andrew__: "df -h" is the disk full?21:58
arunsskatelouis: You're already in the home folder.21:58
andrew__no it was not21:58
TikityTikcan i make lightdm startup jwm instead for a window manager?21:59
andrew__it was a fresh install 16 gb free space21:59
arunsskatelouis: Think of it as a relative path.21:59
skatelouisskatelouis@skatelouis-Aspire-3830TG:/home$ cd skatelouis21:59
skatelouisskatelouis@skatelouis-Aspire-3830TG:~$21:59
ubntukybrdYankDownUnder: What's the underlying issue? rf interference or a driver issue?21:59
arunsskatelouis: ~ stands for the home directory, which means /home/skatelouis21:59
andrew__im on 15 on raspberry pi21:59
k1l_andrew__: "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999" in terminal and show the url here.21:59
arunsSo you're on home/skatelouis now I believe21:59
skatelouisits possible22:00
andrew__df-h22:00
arunsYeah, if you type pwd in terminal it will confirm22:00
andrew__how do i do that22:00
skatelouisaruns : you are right22:00
andrew__i know how to run the command22:00
arunsnacc: By the way, what does ~ stand for again, Tilden or something? I forget.22:00
andrew__but how do i put it in this chat22:00
skatelouisaruns : Thank you22:00
naccaruns: english word for it is "tilde"22:00
arunsskatelouis: No problem.22:00
YankDownUnderubntukybrd, Being that I have the same issue, it would appear to be the case. On THIS machine - my server, the wireless keyboard and mouse work a charm when "bluetooth" is disabled...and I've even disabled it in the BIOS...however, when I turn BT back on, the issues go from "intermittent" to "constant" - so, if that tells you anything - yes, there appears to be a conflict.22:00
k1l_<k1l_> andrew__: "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999" in terminal and show the url here.22:01
arunsnacc: Thanks. Is there any particular reason the tilde is used to represent the home directory?22:01
ubntukybrdYankDownUnder: Gotcha. Thanks a million.22:01
andrew__http://termbin.com/qua022:01
arunsnacc: Does this go back to the days of UNIX or something?22:02
naccaruns: i think technically it's shell specific (although they might all use ~). You can use $HOME, too (which is more UNIX, possibly). I'm honestly not sure on the history22:02
andrew__i got it22:02
andrew__link posted22:02
naccaruns: in fact ~ is documented in `man bash` under 'tilde expansion'22:02
Guest6972Bashing-om, just saw your msg, thanks for the reply! If possible can you provide more info. on solution, any likelihood it would break something.22:03
arunsnacc: Thanks, I love reading man pages :D22:03
k1l_andrew__: ok, there is enough space22:03
k1l_andrew__: but i dont know if the /boot is too small. was there an issue listed while updating?22:04
naccaruns: i feel like 99% of my responses here are either reading the man-page first, or quoting it directly :)22:04
* YankDownUnder remembers when we had "man" pages printed out due to lack of space on the machines22:05
aruns:P22:06
andrew__when i try to update ubuntu 16.0422:06
arunsDo you guys want to hear a bad Matt Damon Linux joke?22:06
andrew__it will go go for about 13 minutes22:06
SchrodingersScataruns: that's off topic here, so no, even if someone says yes you're in the wrong channel.22:07
andrew__then it will say ubuntu has had a critical software problem22:07
andrew__freze22:07
YankDownUnderaruns, "Matt Damon" and "Linux" in the same sentence?22:07
andrew__wont respond22:07
arunsSchrodingersScat: Ubuntu is Linux...?22:07
andrew__i pull the power22:07
andrew__wont boot22:07
andrew__i haveto erase the card22:07
arunsYankDownUnder: Yes.22:07
andrew__then reimage the whole card22:07
arunsWhat do you get if you cross Matt Damon and shell scripting? Bourne Again.22:08
k1l_andrew__: does a 16.04 image work on  reinstall?22:08
andrew__yes22:08
andrew__it works untill i upgrade it22:08
YankDownUnderaruns, Hehehhee...great...22:08
hggdharuns: enough, please. Kep on topic22:08
Bashing-omGuest6972: That is but a test .. will not break anything .. if there is an improvement ( might also try 2015 ) we can then make it permanent .22:08
arunshggdh: OK, sorry :P22:09
andrew__oddly enough22:09
andrew__ubuntu 15 is stable22:09
EriC^^aruns: that was a good one :D22:09
arunsYankDownUnder: Oh, by the way, going back to desktop environments what's the Cinnamon desktop environment supposed to be like?22:09
arunsEriC^^: :D22:10
hggdhandrew__: please send in a full sentence. Typing two words per enter does not help people trying to understand you22:10
YankDownUnderaruns, It's quite all right - kinda like the old "Gnome2" days. Relatively easy on resource, but more of a hog than XFce22:10
andrew__ive got to go i will be back will in about 3 hours will you be one22:11
arunsYankDownUnder: Cool.22:13
arunsYankDownUnder: By the way, are you a professional sysadmin? You kinda seem like it.22:14
arunsYankDownUnder: Just that I want to develop my sysadmin experience but not entirely sure what I am expected to know.22:14
TikityTikcan i configure lightdm to open a window manager?22:14
YankDownUnderaruns, Kinda. I'd prefer to NOT call myself that...just been using OS's for a very very long time...22:14
arunsYankDownUnder: Ah, right.22:14
YankDownUnderaruns, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/nag/node1.html22:15
Oldcpv3Could i ask something?22:16
arunsYankDownUnder: Mighty thanks!22:16
thnaksmy install of ubuntu does not have the tun module22:16
thnaksI cant figure out how ot install it22:16
Oldcpv3oh wait, this is the wrong place... lol22:16
YankDownUnderOldcpv3, What's up?22:16
Oldcpv3I would like to ask to advertise my forum....22:16
Oldcpv3link is http://doomxtreme.net16.net/index.php22:16
thnakshas anyone else experienced this?22:17
k1l_Oldcpv3: no advertising, thanks22:17
OerHeksOldcpv3, please don't spam, thanks22:17
YankDownUnderOldcpv3, Ah...right oh...reckon you should check in some other channels...hmm...?22:17
OerHeksstupid doom22:17
TikityTikcan i configure lightdm to open a window manager?22:18
Oldcpv3use gnome?22:18
Oldcpv3i'm with a half-baked lxde, i need to use cli to restart, log off, etc22:18
YankDownUnderTikityTik, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM22:18
OerHeksTikityTik, sure, default session https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM22:19
TikityTikah, i see it now22:20
TikityTikwhat is the most lightweight display manager?22:22
TikityTikbecause i'm using somethign super light weight which is jwm22:22
Oldcpv3lxde?22:23
TikityTikalso will using lightdm take up ram even if it starts a jwm session?22:23
TikityTikthis laptop that i'm working on only has 512 DDR2 ram22:24
TikityTikand is single core 1.7 Ghz22:24
TikityTikso i need to go LIGHT22:24
Oldcpv3uh huh22:24
geniiopenbox22:24
Oldcpv3use cli22:24
YankDownUnderTikityTik, You can always setup the system to boot to a console, then you login, then you can start your X session from there...so that bypasses the requirement for a "session manager"/"greeter" - and you have heaps of control over what "wm" you prefer...(like back in the old days)22:24
OerHeksDE <> WM22:24
geniiTikityTik: So then no window manager, start openbox by CLI22:25
Bashing-omTikityTik: Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware.22:25
Oldcpv3http://doomxtreme.net16.net/22:25
TikityTikBashing-om: I installed lubuntu core, this channel is more active so i'm here22:27
TikityTikYankDownUnder: how would i do that automatically this is for my grandma22:28
YankDownUnderTikityTik, You would setup a script to automatically start X after the login.22:28
TikityTikah22:29
TikityTikah how can i get an automatic login?22:29
YankDownUnderTikityTik, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession22:29
craptalkhow can i download video on ubuntu using wget? the source is not from youtube22:31
TikityTikYankDownUnder: don't i need a service after i disable lightdm?22:31
craptalkwhat command line should i use?22:31
TikityTikcraptalk: ctrl+alt+t22:32
OerHekscraptalk, if it is a stream, find a streamrecorder22:32
craptalkit is from facebook that someone uploaded a video there22:32
craptalkOerHeks: how can i do it?22:33
YankDownUnderTikityTik, You set up your system to boot to the "cli" - to the console. By doing that, you don't require a "service" to do anything. You then create a custom script to automatically start X after the user logs in. That being said, you've trimmed heaps of resource from the entire system as well.22:33
OerHekscraptalk, oh facebook, dunno22:33
craptalki cant use wget -c 'http://url'22:33
craptalki just get the html file instead22:33
craptalkanyway, i got the link source, i thought it would that easy, but i dont get the video22:34
TikityTikcraptalk:  just use flash downloader add on firefox22:34
craptalkTikityTik: whats that name?22:34
TikityTikcraptalk: "Flash and Video Download"22:34
TikityTikYankDownUnder: you mean by creating this .xinitrc, the systme will boot to the "cli"?22:35
sponixcraptalk: http://www.d-series.org/forums/attachments/engine-building/83682d1426219852-d17a2-goal-230bhp-28u644z.jpg22:36
craptalksponix: whats that?22:36
garrettrHow can I get a list of the packages that are included by default in an Ubuntu install?22:37
YankDownUnderTikityTik, No. That is not what I meant. Let's do this step by step: Firstly, you need to remove the "session manager" - Light-DM or whatever - and the system needs to be configured to boot to the console. Secondly, you then have to create a "startx" script for starting your preferred window manager. Thirdly, you then have to create a script that is automatically started once the user logs in. Right? So those are the steps, and22:37
YankDownUnderthat's what you need to do to get what you're asking for. Easy as.22:37
sponixgarrettr: I think dpkg -l does _Something_22:37
garrettre.g. "What packages are included in a default install of Ubuntu 14.04.4"?22:38
garrettrIs that what this is? http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-14.04.4-desktop-amd64.manifest22:38
craptalkTikityTik: thanks for the add-on22:39
OerHeksgarrettr, those are available in the iso, not installed per se22:39
TikityTikYankDownUnder: I haven o idea how to make it boot to the console and where you automatically login22:39
sponixgarrettr: That looks like it  ;)22:39
YankDownUnderTikityTik, Google. It is your friend.22:39
garrettrOerHeks: Right, but if a file were _not_ included in the manifest, I could reasonably assume it would not be present in a default install, correct?22:40
garrettrAlso, I can only find .manifest files for the desktop distribution. Where are the manifests for the server distribution?22:40
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OerHeksgarrettr, http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/Mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-server-amd64.list22:44
OerHeksor any other mirror22:44
TikityTiknot finding anything on autologin for grub22:45
craptalkis it stable enough to use itunes on ubuntu? last time i was using it on playLinux, and it got stuck often22:45
OerHeksTikityTik, that is what a lightdm does for you, why do you put your grandma up with lubuntu-core?22:45
TikityTikbecause her laptop is very bad22:45
OerHekscraptalk,  check the wineHQ database22:46
TikityTikand i'm trying to make it fast enough for her22:46
OerHeksis is like your chatname, crap.22:46
craptalkOerHeks: what you mean?22:46
OerHeks!wine22:46
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu22:46
craptalkOerHeks: what you mean by saying something about my name?22:47
k1lcraptalk: since apple doesnt ship a linux app you need to use wine. ask the wine guys about issues with that program and wine.22:47
OerHeksoh dear, offended22:47
craptalkOerHeks: nah i am just kidding22:48
craptalkk1l: yeah you are right. but i dont know it's just like sometimes the features dont work well at some points22:48
OerHeks*if* itunes would work, apple gives an update to undo the access22:48
k1lcraptalk: but ubuntu doesnt matter since there is no native program. ask in #winehq about it22:49
craptalkalright22:49
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mankeletorhey what's the name of font viewer?22:56
mankeletori need to install it on lubuntu22:56
OerHeksmankeletor, maybe font-manager?22:57
ywYankDownUnder - update, turn MTU off and back on for auto, rebooted and all is back to normal :) gracious!22:58
mankeletorOerHeks, thanks a lot!22:59
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capum321Building monodevelop from source -> http://www.monodevelop.com/developers/building-monodevelop/#linux . What is missing? http://dpaste.com/2W3KN63]23:02
nacccapum321: probably ask the mono developers? if you want, you can pastebin the configure file itself and i can try and look23:04
OerHekscapum321, maybe this page is any help http://askubuntu.com/questions/418343/cannot-build-monodevelop-from-source23:04
nacccapum321: just like yesterday, `apt-cache search sharp2` shows several packages23:05
kbhello23:09
TikityTikdamnit, i screwed up my tt123:10
TikityTiktty123:10
TikityTikit doesn't even go into a prompt anymore23:10
kbbeyler23:11
kbananizi sikeyim23:11
kbyes brotherlar23:12
k1l!tr | kb23:12
ubottukb: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.23:12
capum321nacc http://dpaste.com/34BP044 paste here.. no luck with mono developers today!23:12
capum321OerHeks: thanks will take a look23:13
capum321nacc: so I have to check for the correct sharp2 ?23:13
capum321desktop or cli?23:15
TikityTikI screwed up my tty1, there's not login23:18
TikityTikthere is no login. it just simply shows the end of the startup check23:18
nacccapum321: what?23:21
capum321nacc the config.log?23:22
nacccapum321: you know how to debug these failures?23:23
nacccapum321: you look for the string that's emitted and see what it's looking for. Then try to satisfy that requirement.23:23
nacccapum321: but in any case, you don't even need to do that here, the configure clearly states you're missing gnome-sharp-2.023:24
nacccapum321: apt-cache search sharp | grep gnome23:25
nacccapum321: and you see a package called 'gnome-sharp2'. Install that, probably.23:25
capum321nacc: all right23:25
nacccapum321: but, tbh, if you are not able to debug this on your own, you probably don't want to be building this yourself23:25
capum321nacc: am I even typing it correctly the configure parameters?23:25
capum321nacc: actually i am secure on this... it's just I want someone to double check before doing anything...23:26
nacccapum321: i have no idea on the configure parameters, sorry23:27
capum321$ ./configure --prefix="pkg-config --variable=prefix mono"  double quotes don't work?23:27
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capum321` acute sign works23:28
capum321why is that23:28
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nacccapum321: uh, because `` spawns a shell to get the output of a command, "" puts that string verbatim23:29
nacccapum321: very seriously, i don't think you should be building this yourself23:29
capum321don't say that. i already lost to much time not practicing code and troubleshooting this heck instead23:30
capum321anyway. I feel comfortable if need to clean install23:31
nacccapum321: iirc, doesn't mono ship a full tarball that has all the deps installed (from the page you linked to)? why not just use that?23:32
capum321i am sure i extract the tarball and run $ ./configure on it top folder23:33
capum321nacc didn't use git clone.23:36
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nacccapum321: what?23:38
nacccapum321: i didn't a single time mention git23:38
capum321nacc: there are two options tarball or git23:38
capum321nacc: there are no other option23:39
TikityTikFixed my problem by systemctl enable getty@tty1.service23:39
nacccapum321: right, i don't really care, tbh -- ask monodevelop folks how to build their stuff23:40
capum321nacc: that's just excelent to hear23:40
nacccapum321: you're fully outside ubuntu support; i and others have told you how to get whatever deps you need23:41
capum321that's terrible because every distro channels are so restrictive. even though it's about building a package and the output should be generic!23:43
GaroHello!23:44
GaroHow to open encrypted home on LiveCD?23:44
nacccapum321: this is an ubuntu support channel, and you're not building a package (which would imply an ubuntu package). you're building a tarball of some project. Talk to that *that* project for support23:45
Garosudo ecryptfs-recover-private INFO: Searching for encrypted private directories (this might take a while)... find: ‘/run/user/999/gvfs’: Permission denied find: File system loop detected; ‘/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl’ is part of the same file system loop as ‘/sys/kernel/debug’.23:46
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capum321would pass on your mind, one had truly being in such channels and a lot of other related channels seeking help? am I really disturbing?23:48
GaroHey?23:50
Ben64well, i might not boot next time, got this message during dist-upgrade ... "The GRUB boot loader was previously installed to a disk that is no longer present, or whose unique identifier has changed for some reason."23:51
OerHeksmaybe you don't have cryptsetup installed on the liveiso23:52
OerHekssudo apt-get install cryptsetup23:52
k1lcapum321: you were told several times how to solve it. ubuntu ships the depencies but you want it the very complicated way, which is not the ubuntu way. so ask the mono project how to solve their issue.23:52
capum321k1l: actually i was told to install 6.0 from source by on user at #mono23:53
capum321¬¬23:54
Ben64capum321: then why come here for support doing that23:54
capum321for support? double check? learning stuff?23:55
Ben64in this channel you'd be told something like "sudo apt-get install monodevelop"23:56
capum321ben64 believe me, i have tried two possible ways by that option23:57
capum321I wanted you to surprise me!23:57
Ben64capum321: ??23:57
capum321haha23:57
nacccapum321: their pages have exactly the steps they recommend for installing/building monodevelop on Ubuntu. You seemed to have chosen to ignore their own guide(s).23:58
capum321not true. i have stop at stone during the path23:58
capum321so I dig around here23:58
capum321like so23:59
nacccapum321: so you're using their repository and everything?23:59
capum321yes indeed23:59

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