[01:05] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer: with regard to USB latency see: http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2013-December/095401.html
[01:10] <OvenWerk1> Robin has done some testing with real devices and full round trip times, As you can see from: http://robin.linuxaudio.org/tmp/vsl1818latency.png The same latency in jack can show some very different full latency. In each case the jack part of the latency is the same. The USB clock part of the latency can double from one way of setting jack to another.
[01:12] <OvenWerk1> As I recall there were more tests done that showed that starting jack with a usb AI would give one result and just stopping and restarting jack with all the smae parameters gave a different result. This seems to be what you are seeing.
[01:13] <OvenWerk1> It appears to be where in the USB cycle jack is started that determines latency.
[01:14] <OvenWerk1> So yes, unplugging and repluggin the keyboard could do that.
[01:20] <OvenWerk1> I personally use a PCI midi port (ES1370 OLD 90s Ensoniq AudioPCI card) which is always the same latency. And oh... MIDI is done different than Audio :)
[09:00] <sakrecoer> thanks OvenWerk1 ! :) I will have to try to plug the keyboards midi-prot into my firewire card.
[10:13] <sakrecoer> !hi-#ubuntustudio-devel | meetingology 
[10:13] <sakrecoer> :D
[10:14] <sakrecoer> don't be so shy ubottu :) welcome meetingology !
[10:22] <autumna> now we have a meeting bot?
[10:22] <sakrecoer> yes! \o/
[10:23] <autumna> hahah. when is the next meeting?
[10:23] <sakrecoer> hahaha!!!! 
[10:23] <autumna> :D
[10:23] <sakrecoer> thursday 21st of july ;)
[10:25] <autumna> wait. you are serious?
[10:26] <autumna> as in we will have regular meetings? 
[10:28] <sakrecoer> i think so, no mandatory participation ofc.. but it's good to get the chance to synch sometimes.
[10:28] <sakrecoer> i'm also anticipating having to take on a fulltime job, which would leave much less time to interact in realtime..
[10:28] <sakrecoer> leave *me less time...
[10:35] <autumna> well meetings aren't a bad idea regardless. just surprised that's all
[10:36] <autumna> and as for having less time, I always go with the assumption that everyone has limited time. 
[22:18] <geirdal> number 6 try in website background :/
[22:19] <geirdal> http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0
[22:25] <zequence> geirdal: I like many of the images, but what I'm seeing a great lack of in them is a vision about the feature tour. It needs to be very simple and clear, so that the visitor understands right away what Ubuntu Studio is about
[22:26] <zequence> So, I would focus more on the concepts around the feature first
[22:26] <zequence> feature tour, I mean
[22:26] <zequence> Text is not enough.
[22:27] <zequence> And, the text should be a lot shorter too.
[22:27] <zequence> I think we should probably split the information in two parts. The feature tour at the front page should be simple and concise with links to more information about the different things shown there
[22:28] <geirdal> there is no text in number 6 images
[22:28] <geirdal> I do not controle the text
[22:28] <zequence> Anyone can do the text. No one controls the text
[22:28] <zequence> I think it's important to start from the right end, anyway
[22:29] <geirdal> ok
[22:29] <zequence> autumna has been working on some of the conceptual parts, but I think there's no real work on the hands on result yet
[22:30] <autumna> I am currently working on support page, then contribution stuff
[22:30] <autumna> maybe sakrecoer is working on update of the feature tour/discover stuff?
[22:32] <autumna> and zequence: I agree with you about the 2 versions of feature tour. I am waiting pretty much until we have the updates to it in through
[22:33] <geirdal> autumna, zequence, yes that is a good idea
[22:36] <autumna> geirdal: about the images. I was wondering if it might be a good idea to put the icons into the content boxes next to the title instead
[22:36] <autumna> any thoughs? (and anyone else too obviously)
[22:36] <geirdal> zequence, just asking, do you want to se images og software ui
[22:36] <geirdal> see images of software ui
[22:38] <geirdal> autumna, and smaller maybe?
[22:38] <zequence> geirdal: That could work. Many thing you can do creatively with that
[22:38] <autumna> yep
[22:39] <geirdal> ok
[22:39] <zequence> I'm thinking the front page could have 4 parts. The first is general, about Ubuntu Studio being a multimedia production OS. The other three about each of the workflows
[22:39] <zequence> What I ask myself is - what sort of image would explain at one glance that Ubuntu Studio is a multimedia production OS
[22:40] <zequence> Or, what image, and what one-liner?
[22:40] <geirdal> creative ones,Yes :)
[22:40] <autumna> zequence: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/FeatureDefinitions/WebsiteXenial do you mean basically the front page section here?
[22:41] <zequence> autumna: Right. Sorry, hadn't looked in there, but I see it is very similar to what I picture as well
[22:41] <geirdal> zequence, but what software to choose from for each category?
[22:41] <autumna> no worries.  I will keep nudging it to remind people that the doc is there, so that we can get all ideas in one place :D
[22:42] <autumna> feel free to make edits to it. 
[22:42] <zequence> geirdal: If you can combine pro audio, 3D modelling and video editing in one image, and the concept of an OS in one image, that would do
[22:44] <zequence> I'm thinking a computer screen, with some content. Something like that, anyway
[22:44] <zequence> The background should probably not be too complex. It takes away the attention from the information
[22:44] <geirdal> zequence, you want me to start from scratch, Yes
[22:46] <zequence> geirdal: I think so, yes. The icons could be used, but if the images and the text is already explaining things really well, they would be more of a complementary thing. They add a certain effect. Like labeling for each workflow
[22:48] <geirdal> humm
[22:49] <geirdal> ok
[22:49] <autumna> (geirdal, btw I just sent you the login info for the stage, so that you can put new versions of images there)
[22:50] <geirdal> autumna, thanks :))
[22:50] <zequence> geirdal: Think most of the images you have provided are a bit too complex. Too many things going on at once. They look nice, but perhaps not for this particular case.
[22:50] <autumna> (and thank you zequence again, for hosting the stage)
[22:51] <zequence> autumna: No problem at all :)
[22:54] <autumna> zequence: do we have a recommended path for users to file bugs for us? 
[22:54] <autumna> I have been meaning to ask this to you for a while, I keep forgetting
[22:55] <autumna> I mean for users who don't have launchpad accounts etc
[23:00] <krytarik> Yes, get one. :P
[23:09] <autumna> lol
[23:39] <autumna> krytarik: zequence: anyone else
[23:39] <autumna> do we officially redirect people to xubuntu and/or ubuntu for questions about desktop?
[23:43] <krytarik> Well, it really depends on where they probably get the most help at the time.
[23:45] <krytarik> That is to say, I wouldn't send anyone away if they get the same help here as well.
[23:46] <krytarik> But that depends on the people around at the time, of course.
[23:48] <krytarik> And that goes for *any* topic.
[23:53] <autumna> *nods* obviously
[23:53] <autumna> I just wasn't sure if it was ok to mention it on support page
[23:54] <krytarik> Yeah, along those lines.
[23:54] <krytarik> Mainly #xubuntu for the desktop then, of course.
[23:56] <OvenWerk1> autumna: ubuntu-bug <program name> post the bug number back to irc or the email list
[23:56] <autumna> right! thanks OvenWerk1
[23:57] <OvenWerk1> I didn't realize I was so back the back scroll...
[23:58] <OvenWerk1> autumna: generally if I can easily reproduce the bug on my own machine, I can do it too. But if they do it that is better and then I can confirm it.
[23:59] <autumna> :D
[23:59] <OvenWerk1> autumna: if they have different HW then it shows in the bug report.
[23:59] <autumna> HW?
[23:59] <OvenWerk1> Hardware
[23:59] <autumna> ah