[00:38] <geirdal> I missed the meeting at devel :( I was working! :(
[00:53] <Glorfindel> Meeting at devel?
[13:49] <diydsp> hi! I just installed 16.04 Ubuntu Studio last night.  I was on 14.04 Ubuntu before that.
[13:50] <sakrecoer> diydsp: how's the first impression?
[13:52] <diydsp> I was delighted to see a video editor in the startup menu!  I never got one working bug-free under Linux before.  Didn't edit anything yet, but I'm itching to.
[13:52] <diydsp> Firefox doesn't looks as good as usual.  Would that be due to the window manager?  And I was happy to see gimp and blender pre-installed.
[13:54] <sakrecoer> diydsp: regarding firefox, i guess it is due to the theme of the window manager, you can chose others in Settings-manager=>appearance
[13:55] <sakrecoer> diydsp: for video i recomend trying kdenlive. as for bug-free video editors in linux, there are quite a few, blender is a prominent example :)
[13:56] <diydsp> Thanks!  I'll go into manager->appearance
[13:56] <diydsp> Ah!  Just started teaching myself blender for CAD.
[13:57] <diydsp> Also, is there a separate donation place for UbuntuStudio?  I wouldn't mind supporting this effort.
[13:57] <sakrecoer> diydsp: in the top-bar of blender, you have button where it says "default" if you open the pulldown menu there, you will find one entry taht says: "Video editing". click it an love it :D
[13:58] <sakrecoer> diydsp: no, we do it for the love of art :) but you could consider donating to the software you enjoy the most :) if blender is your new crush, i know they make very nice t-shirts :)
[13:58] <sakrecoer> diydsp: what you could do for us is to be very vocal about the fact you are using ubuntu studio :)
[13:59] <sakrecoer> diydsp: or get involved in development :) we need all kinds of skills, not only coding so to speak
[14:00] <sakrecoer> diydsp: http://ubuntustudio.org/contribute/ and https://store.blender.org/
[14:01] <sakrecoer> diydsp: we do have swag aswell, but it is not for profit :) http://ubuntustudio.org/merchandise/
[14:03] <diydsp> Ah, thanks!  I can start by helping spread the word with a shirt :)
[14:03] <diydsp> Is this a bug/feature queue I could take a look at and see how I could help?  I found the JoinTheTeam page and the mailing list...but rather than skim the mailing list archives right away, maybe I could see what kinds of things I could help with.
[14:05] <sakrecoer> diydsp: i guess you could dig into this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio
[14:06] <sakrecoer> :)
[14:06] <sakrecoer> diydsp: but, most of the bugs get reported directly to softwares project page...
[14:09] <diydsp> Ah yes, here we go.  Thank you.  That gives me an idea how I could help.  It seems there are lots of packaging requests.  I don't know how to do that but maybe if I read some of this "Done" ones I'll learn.
[14:11] <sakrecoer> diydsp: if it gets packaged in debian, we end up having it, so it realy is there things should be packaged. that way, not only us benefit from it :)
[14:11] <diydsp> Oh!  Another thing I really liked was the mouse settings.  In 14.04 there was no GUI control to adjust mouse acceleration and I disliked the default mouse speed :(  I had a process I would go through manually, listing items partially with a script, but most of the time it was too hard.  So I was glad to see Studio has the mouse controls.  I guess that comes from Ubuntu 16.04?
[14:12] <sakrecoer> i think those controls are from xubuntu :) we base everything desktop on xubuntu :)
[14:13] <sakrecoer> diydsp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/DeveloperTutorials/SimpleBugFixExample here is a little tutorial, you can find more info about developement in that wiki using the sidebar :)
[14:13] <diydsp> And just out of curiousity, why xfce?  Is it higher performance?
[14:14] <sakrecoer> diydsp: yes, its lightweight but still elegant enough :) however, it is possible to install a plethora of other DE :)
[14:16] <diydsp> ah yes, I notice this bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/739628  The report is from 2011, but I think I noticed the same thing last night.  I was kind of addicted to the Ubuntu 14.04 message that gave the ethernet status.
[14:17] <diydsp> But I'm not sure I should go as far as switching to Gnome to get ethernet status
[14:17] <sakrecoer> hmm... i never had that bug tbh..
[14:17] <sakrecoer> if i unplug ethernet cable, it updates the icon in systray instantly...
[14:18] <sakrecoer> but the nm has been acting a bit weird lately, it tends to display the ethernet icon when wifi is on...
[14:19] <diydsp> OK, I'll take a closer look at it tonight when I'm on the machine again!  I wish I didn't have to be at work all day, HA!  ;)
[14:19] <sakrecoer> diydsp: this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1589401
[14:28] <diydsp> BTW, what files make Xubuntu into Ubuntu Studio?  Is there a list of changes in one or more locations?
[14:33] <diydsp> And I was also wondering about CAD.  I use a realtime kernel on two other computers for controlling a laser cutter and a CNC router.  But there were pre-installed for me and I don't know how to re-create that myself.  I would rather use a distro with RT kernel, like US.  Is there much talk about CAD applications running under US?  And if not are you interested in heading in that direction?
[14:50] <sakrecoer> we use the Lowlatency kernerl in fact... for both those questions, i'm not the best stuited to answer you, diydsp ...
[14:50] <sakrecoer> ..soory
[14:51] <sakrecoer> there is not enough talk about CAD tbh, that is something you could contribute with :)
[15:13] <diydsp> Awesome, sakrecoer.  Thank you so much for the nice introduction!  I saw the "workflows" section so potentially in the future, there could be a CAD one.  Honestly, I'm only an amateur in CAD, but I keep notes.  I love wikis!!!
[15:16] <diydsp> This is my wiki so far for UbuntuStudio: http://www.diydsp.com/index.php?title=Home_Network
[15:16] <diydsp> And this is my artwork (instrument building) if you're curious :)  http://dsp.guitars
[15:17] <sakrecoer> diydsp: wow!!! i love your bass sticks!!!
[15:20] <diydsp> Aw shucks, thanks :)
[15:23] <sakrecoer> this is so cool, diydsp : http://dsp.guitars/mp3/sn6.mp3
[15:23] <sakrecoer> it could have little more ... umpf in the bass, you know... more "infra" or whatever its called... but the principle is crazy nice!!!!
[15:24] <sakrecoer> maybe it you use the DS-7 circuitry? :p
[15:24] <sakrecoer> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU3d4Mr_LC8
[15:26] <sakrecoer> diydsp: http://m.bareille.free.fr/ds7clone/ds7.htm
[15:27] <sakrecoer> anyways, have to run! nice to meet you diydsp ! looking forward to read you again!
[15:31] <sakrecoer> before i go, let me ping OvenWerk1: you have to check this bass stick thing out ^