/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/23/#kubuntu-devel.txt

genii-testingimagemagick not opening00:19
genii-testingWhats this thing called "Lunch" ?00:34
genii-testingI have gone sequentially so far through each installed application up to "Network Folder Wizard", will continue testing tomorrow. Findings up to this point: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17724485/00:43
genii-testingI got a phone call and have to go somewhere00:43
ahoneybunclivejo: what ppa do we test?01:19
ahoneybunor ppa's01:19
DarinMillerahoneybun: judging by today's kubuntu-devle IRC log, clivejo copied everything to "staging-plasma".  soee said they wanted xenial testers.02:08
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acheronukummm... kdeclarative in staging-frameworks built against Qt 5.5 for some reason, giving libkf5declarative5 a qtbase-abi-5-5-1 dep, and so a build depends failure on plasma-framework09:18
jimarvanaaaaaaaaand good morning!09:20
jimarvan:)09:20
acheronukkdeclarative picks up Qt 5.6.1 ok here in a pbuilder and sbuild, now anyway.09:21
acheronukmorning :)09:21
jimarvanomg can't wait now to go back home and read about ubuntu packaging. Received the Kubuntu Dojo reminder :D09:22
acheronukThurs 30th :D09:23
clivejoacheronuk: any idea why LP built it against 5.5?10:51
acheronuknot sure. I just copied and rebuilt here: https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/testing/+build/1015838210:52
acheronukand it picked it up with Qt 5.6 using the staging ppa as a ppa dependency10:53
acheronukrebuild?10:54
clivejobut how many others did that :(10:55
clivejoand why did it install the archive version then its in the PPA10:55
clivejoI hate LP10:55
acheronukseems quite a few given that the 1st 2 I just checked had :(11:00
clivejoprobably that stupid publisher11:02
clivejotaking hours to publish stuff11:02
acheronukcould be. just checking a few random logs and so far seems it mostly the builds that executed later on that got 5.6 correctly 11:05
acheronukthe amd64 kdeclarative build just completed was Ok with 5.6...11:09
clivejoIm going to push a rebuild ppa2011:17
clivejoupload even11:17
* acheronuk crosses everything11:23
acheronukhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/267059172/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.frameworkintegration_5.23.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa10_BUILDING.txt.gz11:28
acheronukpulling in dependencies versioned 5.23.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa1 instead of 5.23.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa1011:29
acheronukso maybe some of them using build deps built with 5.5, selected 5.5 vs 5.6 as the old build deps wanted it?11:37
acheronukdunno11:37
yofelI would rather say it's a publisher issue again11:46
yofeldon't upload packages when those you need aren't published yet11:46
acheronukclivejo: searching (very briefly) logs of what has built so far, seem they all got it this time.12:05
clivejohope so12:05
clivejobuilding a lot quicker since12:05
acheronukthey are using the ppa10 versions as build-deps, so no waiting this time12:07
clivejoshould be 2012:08
clivejooh right12:08
clivejogotcha12:08
acheronukyep. hopefully that is ok, despite the fact that some of the pp10 ones built against qt5.512:10
clivejogrrrr12:11
acheronuk-dev deps shouldn't matter presumably in that regard12:11
clivejoacheronuk: can you install it and see if its working?12:29
clivejoon a disposable system?12:29
acheronukI shall make a new yakkety VM12:29
soeehiho12:51
acheronukho12:52
acheronuk.... or hi12:52
soeeor both :)12:55
acheronukclivejo: the proposed update http://paste.ubuntu.com/17743891/12:59
BluesKajHi folks13:00
soeesddm removed and others ? sounds like a bad idea :D13:00
soeehiho BluesKaj13:00
soeeBluesKaj: got some Xenial box ?13:01
BluesKajyup13:02
BluesKajbtw , Hi soee :-)13:02
soeeBluesKaj: can you test Plasma 5.6.5 on it ?13:07
BluesKajalready have it and it crashed twice yesterday and once this morning , have to do a hard reboot 13:09
BluesKajeach tiime13:09
acheronukhad a crash on my laptop but not on the desktop13:14
acheronukpretty sure the lappy one was due to me trying to get away with just restarting plasma, rather than a full restart though13:14
BluesKajlooks like graphics card thermal shutdown in /varlog : "Desk-Yakkety kernel: [  415.509371] nouveau 0000:02:00.0: therm: temperature (95 C) hit the 'downclock' threshold"13:15
BluesKaj /var/log even13:16
marco-parilloYesterday somebody was asking for testers for XX?13:16
acheronukyes13:17
marco-parilloWhich PPAs?13:18
BluesKaj I'm using the new 4.6.2 mainline kernel , but i had a total crash before installing it 13:19
acheronukmarco-parillo: plasma-staging - plasma 5.6.5 and frameworks 5.2313:20
marco-parillosudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma ?13:20
acheronukif you are brave, yes13:21
BluesKajby  total crash i mean, not even ctl+alt+delete brought up the logout option , nor did REISUB have any effect whatsoever13:21
acheronukkernel 4.4.0-27 seems solid enough here13:23
BluesKajalt+prtscn REISUB , that is13:23
marco-parilloOn a VM, I am brave. On real HW, I usually wait for -landing.13:23
BluesKajI have a Xenial install as my fallback OS13:24
marco-parilloThe following packages will be REMOVED:  kactivities kde-l10n-engb kde-spectacle language-pack-kde-en libkf5screen6 libkwinglutils713:25
acheronukis that on a xenial install with no previous plasma 5.6.x? 13:30
marco-parilloIIRC, I had to do something to get kde-spectacle back on YY. Yes, this is a clean 16.04, with KInfocenter reporting Plasma 5.5.5 and Q5 5.5.1. 13:31
ahoneybunyofel: clivejo ping13:34
acheronukspectacle and the language packs are the issue there. the rest is OK to go AFAIK13:34
ahoneybunholy crap13:35
yofelhm?13:36
marco-parilloNow I am on KDE Plasma Version 5.6.5 and Frameworks 5.23. Going to re-boot to see if anything is obviously broken.13:36
ahoneybunThe best I can offer for this sponsorship would be services totaling $160 per month, or the cost of a Linode 24GB. Would you be able to scale down the requirements of your servers to fit within this amount to make it worthwhile for your project?13:36
acheronukmarco-parillo: I've kept my language packs, but then I have some other ppas enabled on xenial13:36
yofel"would you be able to scale down" XD13:37
yofelI think we can live with that? ^^13:37
ahoneybunyea I thought so too lol13:37
ahoneybunthe 24Gb plan has 24gb of ram and a 384 gb ssd!13:38
ahoneybunI think it might be good to take 2 or three of the 8GB plan13:39
ahoneybunthats 3 96gbs ssds13:39
ahoneybunhttps://www.linode.com/pricing13:39
ahoneybunsounds good to me13:39
yofeldepends on what we get regarding IPs. You could also take the large one and split it up using LXD or whatever13:39
ahoneybunwe could13:40
ahoneybunthey have static ips13:40
ahoneybunI've had the same IP for over a 1yr13:40
ahoneybunyofel: I'd like to forward the message to you so you can reply, or what do you think is best to get the best bang for the free buck13:41
ahoneybunlol13:41
yofelhm, the 3x8 idea might actually be better. We get more CPU cores out of that (12, not 8). Question is how the workload will actually look like13:44
ahoneybunwe need to get that login fixed real quick so we can put them on the sponsor page13:45
acheronukthis is for packaging? hosting? or something else?13:45
ahoneybunpackaging 13:45
ahoneybunthey have some awesome SSDs13:45
ahoneybuncan CPUs of course13:46
acheronukwith my slow upload I like that idea, not to mention the rest13:46
ahoneybunthey have some fast speeds on their end13:46
ahoneybunit will be slow upload on your end either way13:46
marco-parilloI re-booted XX, and got my new wallpapers, Dropbox, Muon Update Manager, Kinfocenter, Kate, Dolphin, System Settings, Kicker, Rekonq, Firefox all seem to start normally. And the Panel Autohide bug seems fixed.13:47
IrcsomeBot<marcinsagol> So looks good13:47
ahoneybunyofel: plus the 3x8 is still under their limit13:47
marco-parilloYes.13:47
acheronukahoneybun: yes, but if you pull source straight to the remote box, you can cut out some of the bigger slower uploads using your isp13:47
soeeclivejo: so i think next +1 for Xenial backports13:47
ahoneybun120 vs 16013:47
ahoneybunacheronuk: of course13:48
ahoneybunI test their speed near me around 750 mb down and 150 mb up or so13:48
acheronukmarco-parillo: If you add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports as well, you can get back the language packs etc. and leave kactivities gone, as it's moved packages I think13:48
acheronukahoneybun: I felt the slowness even doing a 44MB Qt 5.6 source upload via my isp the other day, so would be great to do that on a remote fast connection13:50
ahoneybunyofel: "Our developers could get a lot of work done with that amount of servers, the best we believe would be three Linode 8GBs. That is still $40 below your offer so we believe it would be the best for us both."13:51
ahoneybunfeedback?13:51
marco-parilloacheronuk: TY. It seems all adding backports got me was an upgrade to khelpcenter. Do I need to re-enable staging?13:52
acheronukmarco-parillo: with both enabled can you do 'sudo apt install kde-spectacle kde-l10n-engb'13:55
acheronukoh and language-pack-kde-en13:56
acheronukget back what you lost13:56
yofelstill thinking. A single 8 core box would have better peak performance than using one 4 core box and having 2 boxes lying around idle13:58
ahoneybunalright I'll wait on your reply then13:59
acheronukclivejo: in a fresh xenial VM, with backports and staging ppa enabled, upgrade to 5.6.5 was very smoooth14:01
marco-parillosudo apt install kde-spectacle -y worked for me.14:01
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Would be of the same opinion as yofel14:02
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> And we could carve it up virtually14:03
yofelahoneybun: OK, I *personally* would use one 24 node and give people access to individual containers. Worst case using one IP address and port forwarding14:03
marco-parilloand it is bound to my printscreen key but acheronuk do I want -enus or somemthing like that?14:03
yofelwith that we can trivially scale the instances and everyone can use as much resources as possible14:04
ahoneybunthat's like a plan14:04
acheronukmarco-parillo: -enus?14:04
marco-parillowill kde-l10n-engb language-pack-kde-en get me the Queen's English? 14:05
yofelit should14:05
acheronukmarco-parillo: yes, in kde. colour etc instead of color!14:06
acheronuk'proper' spelling14:06
marco-parilloMaybe in your neighborhood ;-)14:07
ahoneybunyofel: We would put that Linode 24GB to very good use, it would be very beneficial to the project and allow our developers with slow uploads and downloads as well as slow HDDs to download source and build packages very quicky. Thank you very much for the offer!14:07
ahoneybundraft reply14:07
ahoneybunwait14:07
ahoneybunyofel: https://notes.kde.org/p/Linode_Sponsorship14:08
ahoneybunalso acheronuk or clivejo can fill in and edit with a KDE Identidy account14:08
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> I'm on the road so can't right now14:11
acheronukedit what?14:15
ahoneybunthat note14:15
acheronukoh. right. oops.14:15
acheronukwant much more said?14:15
ahoneybunis that final?14:21
acheronukI just tweaked slightly14:21
ahoneybunit looks much better then what I had14:22
ahoneybunyofel: think we should wait for more KC members to approve or just send it?14:22
yofeldo what you feel comfortable with... I think it's ok14:24
ahoneybunwhat is with the .."?14:25
yofelwell, if you ask me, I - as a non-native speaker - would wait for another person to look at it14:27
ahoneybunI'll ping valorie14:27
ahoneybunand wait 14:27
ahoneybunusually the best idea14:27
BluesKajYakkety crashed again, think i'll stick with Xenial for the rest of my session, this is becoming a pita14:32
BluesKajyup, the gpu went up to 105C and creted a thermal shutdown...again om YY14:36
BluesKajon14:36
BluesKajgonna have to figure out why14:36
soee;o14:38
BluesKajhmm, can't seem to find a suitable gpu temperature monitor app in kubuntu14:58
geniisoee: I did a little testing last night of the staging-plasma. The main issues I noticed were that KBlocks still freezes the bar and clock until it closes with "KDEInit could not launch '/usr/games/kblocks'" message... ImageMagick (display Q16) and SSH AskPass don't launch.... Lunch complains of missing .lunchrc .. The error dialog does not show on Task Manager.14:58
geniiIf error dialog is not explicitly closed when it appears and another app takes focus, it gets lost but shows again briefly when shutting down. Cannot alt-tab to it15:01
geniisoee: Is there anything specific I should be trying or testing ? Currently I'm just going through every application on the launcher and making notes. 15:18
soeegenii: the most important thing is to test if the packages updates fine15:19
soeeapplications crashes etc. are in most caces upstram bugs15:19
geniisoee: The box was a Wily -> Xenial do-release-upgrade. All PPAs were disabled and none were re-enabled yet. So all stock repos except for staging-plasma15:20
soeei think you can enable backports ppa15:22
soeeas almost all what we add now to Xenial lands in backports15:22
soeeclivejo: are you fine with moving Plasma 5.6.5 + Frameworks fromstaging to landing?15:23
soeehttps://events.opensuse.org15:27
soeetalk about Neon15:27
BluesKajinstalled the nvidia-340 driver and gpu temp seems to be holding at 84C which is higher than the normal 75 or so but it's not creeping up so far15:28
geniisoee: Adding backports and dist-upgrade wants to remove libkwineffects7 libkwinxrenderutils7 ( and some old kernels ) and upgrade khelpcenter, no error messages or issues, finished OK 15:34
soeewell there is libkwineffects8 now so its fine15:35
geniikhelpcenter bumped from 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1 to 4:5.6.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa115:37
soee5.6.4 ?15:38
soeeafter adding backports or plasma-staging ?15:38
geniibackports15:38
soeeok15:38
geniisoee: Should i dump /var/log/apt/history.log to a pastebin?15:46
clivejobackports is still 5.6.415:56
clivejostaging-plasma is 5.6.515:56
clivejoFW5.23 and Plasma 5.6.6 both in staging-plasma PPA15:58
clivejosoee: yofel wants to review them, he said it would have to wait until Friday15:59
acheronuksoee: there is no new khelpcenter in plasma 5.6.5, so 5.6.4 is the most current16:01
acheronukalso hence why adding backports upgrades it while the staging ppa on it's own does not16:02
soeeacheronuk: ok16:05
soeeclivejo: i think moving them ti landing is fine16:05
clivejoit was moved to apps as far as I remember16:05
soeeand Philip was not interested with testing staging :)16:05
soeeclivejo: btw. what is the Apps status ?16:06
acheronukI always found khelpcenter to be not very helpful!16:06
soee1st comment https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/PZWMxZXocoC16:06
clivejoLOL16:06
clivejokunhelpfulcentre16:07
acheronukmore accurate :P16:08
clivejosoee: apps 16.04.1 was staged 16:08
soeefull ?16:08
clivejoI have been waiting on an answer from KDE regarding a crash I have with korganizer16:08
soeeso some upstram bug or packaging issue ?16:09
clivejobeen a month now and no answer16:09
soeeoO16:09
clivejoI think its upstream16:09
clivejobut Ive have no feedback about it16:10
soeecan't we just package it and wait for fix ?16:10
clivejoit is packaged16:10
soeeclivejo: ok so 16.04.1 are done ? :)16:10
clivejoI dont consider them done16:10
soeecan we stage  this https://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-16.04.2.php ?16:10
soeeanyway can we jump to .2 ?16:11
clivejominuet is waiting on some 3rd party lib16:11
clivejoI guess16:11
soeein the end we will have to do it anyway so maybe it is better to start right away and work on .216:12
clivejooh really?!?16:12
clivejowhen is .3 out?16:13
soeeVivaldi ... gosh .. "Latest snapshot is out with color picker for themes" why do they work on such features and not some nice optimizations, profiles etc.16:13
clivejoINTEGRATION WITH GIT16:28
clivejothat should then git merge changelogs16:28
clivejooupps16:28
clivejobuildlog16:28
* clivejo bangs head against wall16:29
acheronukstart again16:29
clivejototally misread the issue#16:29
clivejoIm looking for a Hangmans Hill16:29
acheronukoh, I see what you mean now. no, not that16:29
* soee has the ordered book https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I6MMwYM-hqg/Vrsvv1t-53I/AAAAAAADgf4/s-rczgw5ksE/s512-Ic42/zielone%2520koktajle.jpg16:29
acheronukgrr.. half the ubuntu infrastructure links I try are timing out16:30
soeeahoneybun: ping16:31
clivejowhat do you mean by merge the buildlog?16:31
acheronukyou linked to a buildlog16:32
clivejoyup16:32
clivejotheres a missing file16:32
clivejoI asked if you would fix the packaging and submit a merge request for it16:33
acheronukah. I missed that scanning through16:33
clivejoIm doing too much at once16:33
* clivejo is not a multi-tasker16:33
acheronukLP is temporarily unavailable.16:36
clivejoLOL16:36
acheronukah. on #launchpad, topic is "Firewall trouble affecting Launchpad and several other Canonical sites"16:37
* acheronuk gives up for now16:38
acheronukI'll give them an hour or 2 and come back16:38
jimarvanhelloz :)17:28
soeehiho17:35
yofelsomeone might want to close lp 1590079 in the kdenlive 16.04 changelog17:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1590079 in kdenlive (Ubuntu) "Please push kdenlive 16.04 package from Debian or kdenlive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159007917:55
marco-parilloI wrote earlier that hiding the panel now works with Plasma 5.6.5. But maybe not exactly. Can somebody hide the panel, show the desktop, click the K kicker, and move the mouse pointer up to one of your favorites? It seems to me that the bottom of the kicker menu is high, where the pane should have been, but is now hidden.17:56
marco-parillothe panel should have been, but is now hidden.17:56
yofeland kreversi seems buggy enough for our error tracker to complain about it o.O - lp 159451517:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1594515 in kreversi (Ubuntu) "/usr/games/kreversi:11:QObject::setProperty:KReversiView::updateBoard:KReversiView::setGame:KReversiView::KReversiView:KReversiMainWindow::KReversiMainWindow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159451517:57
soeeyofel: you were agains moving plasma-staging (xenial) to landing ?18:15
yofelhuh, no, I said to move it18:15
soeeclivejo: ^18:15
yofelthat launchpad seems to be having trouble doesn't help ^^18:19
clivejostaging script just failed18:22
clivejoI guess LP git is having problems too18:22
yofel"Firewall trouble affecting Launchpad and several other Canonical sites"18:22
yofelI can push to git fine, but dput just says connection refused18:22
clivejodunno, Im gonna leave it18:23
clivejonot in the mood to be fighting with it18:23
yofelguess the kinit CVE has to wait..18:23
soeeovidiuflorin: ubbotu bot on #kubuntu returns wrong link to download page, it shows http://kubuntu.org/download.php while it should be http://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ - can you somehow fix this ?19:00
yofelhe can't, I'll ask in ubuntu-ops19:04
soeethank you19:04
yofelsoee: fixed19:08
soeecool :19:08
soee:)19:08
* yofel wonders how to make jenkins parse parameter from a json request...19:09
yofel*parameters19:09
geniiYou guys can just ping me for factoid changes next time if you like19:09
acheronukclivejo: did the merge on krdc BTW. seems to be fine in pbuilder now at least20:01
* yofel throws invalid json at jenkins20:59
soee:D20:59
yofeland a couple net.sf.json.JSONNull's just for the heck of it20:59
acheronukin/out. too late now21:00
clivejoLOL21:05
clivejonow the fun begins21:05
soeeprty time ?21:05
clivejolots of speculation and interviews with "experts"21:06
soeesame here, whole day "-)21:07
clivejowent did Postman Pat get a helicopter?21:07
acheronuklong night if you can stomach it21:08
clivejonah21:08
clivejoIm not that interested in the result21:08
acheronukthe aftermath could be interesting though21:09
clivejoindeed21:09
soeeSky News: 52 %- stay, 48% - leave21:10
clivejoand how do they know that?!?21:10
soeedunno :D21:10
soeeit was fixed long before21:10
yofeli.e. 52%- "Cameron is in trouble", 48%- "Get rid of the government"?21:11
soeeUK - hey we want some laws changed in EU for us or we quit, than: ok we have what we wanted we stay21:11
soeelet people vote but it doesntmatter21:11
acheronukits all a halfbaked mess21:12
clivejosoee: true, thats what happened in Ireland21:12
clivejosorry, thats the wrong answer21:12
soeethat what was in Scotland when they voted to leave uk21:12
clivejosays yes 21:12
soeeremember "It doesn't matter who votes; it matters who counts the votes21:14
soee~ 150 votes: https://plus.google.com/u/0/110954078302330754910/posts/9Hef1REh2bd21:15
clivejogrrr staging script keeps crashing21:23
acheronuklol. dead heat. that would be funny21:30
yofelhm... that worked. 21:48
yofelwell, "worked"21:49
* yofel grabs the krdc merge as a test dummy21:51
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> *wonders what yofel is up to*21:54
yofelfiguring out git push notifications for jenkins21:55
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Ah21:56
yofeloh, we have no jenkins job for krdc21:57
yofelso much for that21:57
clivejomake one :P22:02
clivejoscript is crashing === baloo-widgets5 is not in the archive22:03
yofelok, the triggers are actually dead easy...22:07
yofelnow I just need to write a script to add an appropriate webhook to every repo22:08
clivejohave you an example?22:15
yofelyou just need the appropriate target for the jenkins git plugin, the akonadi-search builds were trigger with this:22:18
yofelcurl -X POST http://kci.pangea.pub/git/notifyCommit?url=git%2Bssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/%2Bgit/akonadi-search22:18
yofel*triggered22:18
yofellaunchpad sends json data with the request, which is ignored in this case22:19
clivejoso LP can trigger KCI directly22:19
yofelyup. That's how the alioth kci triggers worked actually ^^22:20
yofelthey just used GET, not POST.22:20
IrcsomeBot1<marcinsagol> Plasma 5.6.5 -> Xenial landing ?22:29
yofelhooks for all repositories in place22:48
yofellets see how that'll work out22:48
IrcsomeBot1<marcinsagol> What does in general?22:51
clivejoyofel: have you tweaked the staging script ?23:13
clivejooh never mind I see the problem 23:15
* clivejo face plam23:16

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