[00:19] imagemagick not opening [00:34] Whats this thing called "Lunch" ? [00:43] I have gone sequentially so far through each installed application up to "Network Folder Wizard", will continue testing tomorrow. Findings up to this point: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17724485/ [00:43] I got a phone call and have to go somewhere [01:19] clivejo: what ppa do we test? [01:19] or ppa's [02:08] ahoneybun: judging by today's kubuntu-devle IRC log, clivejo copied everything to "staging-plasma". soee said they wanted xenial testers. === tsdgeos_ is now known as tsdgeos [09:18] ummm... kdeclarative in staging-frameworks built against Qt 5.5 for some reason, giving libkf5declarative5 a qtbase-abi-5-5-1 dep, and so a build depends failure on plasma-framework [09:20] aaaaaaaaand good morning! [09:20] :) [09:21] kdeclarative picks up Qt 5.6.1 ok here in a pbuilder and sbuild, now anyway. [09:21] morning :) [09:22] omg can't wait now to go back home and read about ubuntu packaging. Received the Kubuntu Dojo reminder :D [09:23] Thurs 30th :D [10:51] acheronuk: any idea why LP built it against 5.5? [10:52] not sure. I just copied and rebuilt here: https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/testing/+build/10158382 [10:53] and it picked it up with Qt 5.6 using the staging ppa as a ppa dependency [10:54] rebuild? [10:55] but how many others did that :( [10:55] and why did it install the archive version then its in the PPA [10:55] I hate LP [11:00] seems quite a few given that the 1st 2 I just checked had :( [11:02] probably that stupid publisher [11:02] taking hours to publish stuff [11:05] could be. just checking a few random logs and so far seems it mostly the builds that executed later on that got 5.6 correctly [11:09] the amd64 kdeclarative build just completed was Ok with 5.6... [11:17] Im going to push a rebuild ppa20 [11:17] upload even [11:23] * acheronuk crosses everything [11:28] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/267059172/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.frameworkintegration_5.23.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa10_BUILDING.txt.gz [11:29] pulling in dependencies versioned 5.23.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa1 instead of 5.23.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa10 [11:37] so maybe some of them using build deps built with 5.5, selected 5.5 vs 5.6 as the old build deps wanted it? [11:37] dunno [11:46] I would rather say it's a publisher issue again [11:46] don't upload packages when those you need aren't published yet [12:05] clivejo: searching (very briefly) logs of what has built so far, seem they all got it this time. [12:05] hope so [12:05] building a lot quicker since [12:07] they are using the ppa10 versions as build-deps, so no waiting this time [12:08] should be 20 [12:08] oh right [12:08] gotcha [12:10] yep. hopefully that is ok, despite the fact that some of the pp10 ones built against qt5.5 [12:11] grrrr [12:11] -dev deps shouldn't matter presumably in that regard [12:29] acheronuk: can you install it and see if its working? [12:29] on a disposable system? [12:29] I shall make a new yakkety VM [12:51] hiho [12:52] ho [12:52] .... or hi [12:55] or both :) [12:59] clivejo: the proposed update http://paste.ubuntu.com/17743891/ [13:00] Hi folks [13:00] sddm removed and others ? sounds like a bad idea :D [13:00] hiho BluesKaj [13:01] BluesKaj: got some Xenial box ? [13:02] yup [13:02] btw , Hi soee :-) [13:07] BluesKaj: can you test Plasma 5.6.5 on it ? [13:09] already have it and it crashed twice yesterday and once this morning , have to do a hard reboot [13:09] each tiime [13:14] had a crash on my laptop but not on the desktop [13:14] pretty sure the lappy one was due to me trying to get away with just restarting plasma, rather than a full restart though [13:15] looks like graphics card thermal shutdown in /varlog : "Desk-Yakkety kernel: [ 415.509371] nouveau 0000:02:00.0: therm: temperature (95 C) hit the 'downclock' threshold" [13:16] /var/log even [13:16] Yesterday somebody was asking for testers for XX? [13:17] yes [13:18] Which PPAs? [13:19] I'm using the new 4.6.2 mainline kernel , but i had a total crash before installing it [13:20] marco-parillo: plasma-staging - plasma 5.6.5 and frameworks 5.23 [13:20] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma ? [13:21] if you are brave, yes [13:21] by total crash i mean, not even ctl+alt+delete brought up the logout option , nor did REISUB have any effect whatsoever [13:23] kernel 4.4.0-27 seems solid enough here [13:23] alt+prtscn REISUB , that is [13:23] On a VM, I am brave. On real HW, I usually wait for -landing. [13:24] I have a Xenial install as my fallback OS [13:25] The following packages will be REMOVED: kactivities kde-l10n-engb kde-spectacle language-pack-kde-en libkf5screen6 libkwinglutils7 [13:30] is that on a xenial install with no previous plasma 5.6.x? [13:31] IIRC, I had to do something to get kde-spectacle back on YY. Yes, this is a clean 16.04, with KInfocenter reporting Plasma 5.5.5 and Q5 5.5.1. [13:34] yofel: clivejo ping [13:34] spectacle and the language packs are the issue there. the rest is OK to go AFAIK [13:35] holy crap [13:36] hm? [13:36] Now I am on KDE Plasma Version 5.6.5 and Frameworks 5.23. Going to re-boot to see if anything is obviously broken. [13:36] The best I can offer for this sponsorship would be services totaling $160 per month, or the cost of a Linode 24GB. Would you be able to scale down the requirements of your servers to fit within this amount to make it worthwhile for your project? [13:36] marco-parillo: I've kept my language packs, but then I have some other ppas enabled on xenial [13:37] "would you be able to scale down" XD [13:37] I think we can live with that? ^^ [13:37] yea I thought so too lol [13:38] the 24Gb plan has 24gb of ram and a 384 gb ssd! [13:39] I think it might be good to take 2 or three of the 8GB plan [13:39] thats 3 96gbs ssds [13:39] https://www.linode.com/pricing [13:39] sounds good to me [13:39] depends on what we get regarding IPs. You could also take the large one and split it up using LXD or whatever [13:40] we could [13:40] they have static ips [13:40] I've had the same IP for over a 1yr [13:41] yofel: I'd like to forward the message to you so you can reply, or what do you think is best to get the best bang for the free buck [13:41] lol [13:44] hm, the 3x8 idea might actually be better. We get more CPU cores out of that (12, not 8). Question is how the workload will actually look like [13:45] we need to get that login fixed real quick so we can put them on the sponsor page [13:45] this is for packaging? hosting? or something else? [13:45] packaging [13:45] they have some awesome SSDs [13:46] can CPUs of course [13:46] with my slow upload I like that idea, not to mention the rest [13:46] they have some fast speeds on their end [13:46] it will be slow upload on your end either way [13:47] I re-booted XX, and got my new wallpapers, Dropbox, Muon Update Manager, Kinfocenter, Kate, Dolphin, System Settings, Kicker, Rekonq, Firefox all seem to start normally. And the Panel Autohide bug seems fixed. [13:47] So looks good [13:47] yofel: plus the 3x8 is still under their limit [13:47] Yes. [13:47] ahoneybun: yes, but if you pull source straight to the remote box, you can cut out some of the bigger slower uploads using your isp [13:47] clivejo: so i think next +1 for Xenial backports [13:47] 120 vs 160 [13:48] acheronuk: of course [13:48] I test their speed near me around 750 mb down and 150 mb up or so [13:48] marco-parillo: If you add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports as well, you can get back the language packs etc. and leave kactivities gone, as it's moved packages I think [13:50] ahoneybun: I felt the slowness even doing a 44MB Qt 5.6 source upload via my isp the other day, so would be great to do that on a remote fast connection [13:51] yofel: "Our developers could get a lot of work done with that amount of servers, the best we believe would be three Linode 8GBs. That is still $40 below your offer so we believe it would be the best for us both." [13:51] feedback? [13:52] acheronuk: TY. It seems all adding backports got me was an upgrade to khelpcenter. Do I need to re-enable staging? [13:55] marco-parillo: with both enabled can you do 'sudo apt install kde-spectacle kde-l10n-engb' [13:56] oh and language-pack-kde-en [13:56] get back what you lost [13:58] still thinking. A single 8 core box would have better peak performance than using one 4 core box and having 2 boxes lying around idle [13:59] alright I'll wait on your reply then [14:01] clivejo: in a fresh xenial VM, with backports and staging ppa enabled, upgrade to 5.6.5 was very smoooth [14:01] sudo apt install kde-spectacle -y worked for me. [14:02] Would be of the same opinion as yofel [14:03] And we could carve it up virtually [14:03] ahoneybun: OK, I *personally* would use one 24 node and give people access to individual containers. Worst case using one IP address and port forwarding [14:03] and it is bound to my printscreen key but acheronuk do I want -enus or somemthing like that? [14:04] with that we can trivially scale the instances and everyone can use as much resources as possible [14:04] that's like a plan [14:04] marco-parillo: -enus? [14:05] will kde-l10n-engb language-pack-kde-en get me the Queen's English? [14:05] it should [14:06] marco-parillo: yes, in kde. colour etc instead of color! [14:06] 'proper' spelling [14:07] Maybe in your neighborhood ;-) [14:07] yofel: We would put that Linode 24GB to very good use, it would be very beneficial to the project and allow our developers with slow uploads and downloads as well as slow HDDs to download source and build packages very quicky. Thank you very much for the offer! [14:07] draft reply [14:07] wait [14:08] yofel: https://notes.kde.org/p/Linode_Sponsorship [14:08] also acheronuk or clivejo can fill in and edit with a KDE Identidy account [14:11] I'm on the road so can't right now [14:15] edit what? [14:15] that note [14:15] oh. right. oops. [14:15] want much more said? [14:21] is that final? [14:21] I just tweaked slightly [14:22] it looks much better then what I had [14:22] yofel: think we should wait for more KC members to approve or just send it? [14:24] do what you feel comfortable with... I think it's ok [14:25] what is with the .."? [14:27] well, if you ask me, I - as a non-native speaker - would wait for another person to look at it [14:27] I'll ping valorie [14:27] and wait [14:27] usually the best idea [14:32] Yakkety crashed again, think i'll stick with Xenial for the rest of my session, this is becoming a pita [14:36] yup, the gpu went up to 105C and creted a thermal shutdown...again om YY [14:36] on [14:36] gonna have to figure out why [14:38] ;o [14:58] hmm, can't seem to find a suitable gpu temperature monitor app in kubuntu [14:58] soee: I did a little testing last night of the staging-plasma. The main issues I noticed were that KBlocks still freezes the bar and clock until it closes with "KDEInit could not launch '/usr/games/kblocks'" message... ImageMagick (display Q16) and SSH AskPass don't launch.... Lunch complains of missing .lunchrc .. The error dialog does not show on Task Manager. [15:01] If error dialog is not explicitly closed when it appears and another app takes focus, it gets lost but shows again briefly when shutting down. Cannot alt-tab to it [15:18] soee: Is there anything specific I should be trying or testing ? Currently I'm just going through every application on the launcher and making notes. [15:19] genii: the most important thing is to test if the packages updates fine [15:19] applications crashes etc. are in most caces upstram bugs [15:20] soee: The box was a Wily -> Xenial do-release-upgrade. All PPAs were disabled and none were re-enabled yet. So all stock repos except for staging-plasma [15:22] i think you can enable backports ppa [15:22] as almost all what we add now to Xenial lands in backports [15:23] clivejo: are you fine with moving Plasma 5.6.5 + Frameworks fromstaging to landing? [15:27] https://events.opensuse.org [15:27] talk about Neon [15:28] installed the nvidia-340 driver and gpu temp seems to be holding at 84C which is higher than the normal 75 or so but it's not creeping up so far [15:34] soee: Adding backports and dist-upgrade wants to remove libkwineffects7 libkwinxrenderutils7 ( and some old kernels ) and upgrade khelpcenter, no error messages or issues, finished OK [15:35] well there is libkwineffects8 now so its fine [15:37] khelpcenter bumped from 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1 to 4:5.6.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 [15:38] 5.6.4 ? [15:38] after adding backports or plasma-staging ? [15:38] backports [15:38] ok [15:46] soee: Should i dump /var/log/apt/history.log to a pastebin? [15:56] backports is still 5.6.4 [15:56] staging-plasma is 5.6.5 [15:58] FW5.23 and Plasma 5.6.6 both in staging-plasma PPA [15:59] soee: yofel wants to review them, he said it would have to wait until Friday [16:01] soee: there is no new khelpcenter in plasma 5.6.5, so 5.6.4 is the most current [16:02] also hence why adding backports upgrades it while the staging ppa on it's own does not [16:05] acheronuk: ok [16:05] clivejo: i think moving them ti landing is fine [16:05] it was moved to apps as far as I remember [16:05] and Philip was not interested with testing staging :) [16:06] clivejo: btw. what is the Apps status ? [16:06] I always found khelpcenter to be not very helpful! [16:06] 1st comment https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/PZWMxZXocoC [16:06] LOL [16:07] kunhelpfulcentre [16:08] more accurate :P [16:08] soee: apps 16.04.1 was staged [16:08] full ? [16:08] I have been waiting on an answer from KDE regarding a crash I have with korganizer [16:09] so some upstram bug or packaging issue ? [16:09] been a month now and no answer [16:09] oO [16:09] I think its upstream [16:10] but Ive have no feedback about it [16:10] can't we just package it and wait for fix ? [16:10] it is packaged [16:10] clivejo: ok so 16.04.1 are done ? :) [16:10] I dont consider them done [16:10] can we stage this https://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-16.04.2.php ? [16:11] anyway can we jump to .2 ? [16:11] minuet is waiting on some 3rd party lib [16:11] I guess [16:12] in the end we will have to do it anyway so maybe it is better to start right away and work on .2 [16:12] oh really?!? [16:13] when is .3 out? [16:13] Vivaldi ... gosh .. "Latest snapshot is out with color picker for themes" why do they work on such features and not some nice optimizations, profiles etc. [16:28] INTEGRATION WITH GIT [16:28] that should then git merge changelogs [16:28] oupps [16:28] buildlog [16:29] * clivejo bangs head against wall [16:29] start again [16:29] totally misread the issue# [16:29] Im looking for a Hangmans Hill [16:29] oh, I see what you mean now. no, not that [16:29] * soee has the ordered book https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I6MMwYM-hqg/Vrsvv1t-53I/AAAAAAADgf4/s-rczgw5ksE/s512-Ic42/zielone%2520koktajle.jpg [16:30] grr.. half the ubuntu infrastructure links I try are timing out [16:31] ahoneybun: ping [16:31] what do you mean by merge the buildlog? [16:32] you linked to a buildlog [16:32] yup [16:32] theres a missing file [16:33] I asked if you would fix the packaging and submit a merge request for it [16:33] ah. I missed that scanning through [16:33] Im doing too much at once [16:33] * clivejo is not a multi-tasker [16:36] LP is temporarily unavailable. [16:36] LOL [16:37] ah. on #launchpad, topic is "Firewall trouble affecting Launchpad and several other Canonical sites" [16:38] * acheronuk gives up for now [16:38] I'll give them an hour or 2 and come back [17:28] helloz :) [17:35] hiho [17:55] someone might want to close lp 1590079 in the kdenlive 16.04 changelog [17:55] Launchpad bug 1590079 in kdenlive (Ubuntu) "Please push kdenlive 16.04 package from Debian or kdenlive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1590079 [17:56] I wrote earlier that hiding the panel now works with Plasma 5.6.5. But maybe not exactly. Can somebody hide the panel, show the desktop, click the K kicker, and move the mouse pointer up to one of your favorites? It seems to me that the bottom of the kicker menu is high, where the pane should have been, but is now hidden. [17:56] the panel should have been, but is now hidden. [17:57] and kreversi seems buggy enough for our error tracker to complain about it o.O - lp 1594515 [17:57] Launchpad bug 1594515 in kreversi (Ubuntu) "/usr/games/kreversi:11:QObject::setProperty:KReversiView::updateBoard:KReversiView::setGame:KReversiView::KReversiView:KReversiMainWindow::KReversiMainWindow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1594515 [18:15] yofel: you were agains moving plasma-staging (xenial) to landing ? [18:15] huh, no, I said to move it [18:15] clivejo: ^ [18:19] that launchpad seems to be having trouble doesn't help ^^ [18:22] staging script just failed [18:22] I guess LP git is having problems too [18:22] "Firewall trouble affecting Launchpad and several other Canonical sites" [18:22] I can push to git fine, but dput just says connection refused [18:23] dunno, Im gonna leave it [18:23] not in the mood to be fighting with it [18:23] guess the kinit CVE has to wait.. [19:00] ovidiuflorin: ubbotu bot on #kubuntu returns wrong link to download page, it shows http://kubuntu.org/download.php while it should be http://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ - can you somehow fix this ? [19:04] he can't, I'll ask in ubuntu-ops [19:04] thank you [19:08] soee: fixed [19:08] cool : [19:08] :) [19:09] * yofel wonders how to make jenkins parse parameter from a json request... [19:09] *parameters [19:09] You guys can just ping me for factoid changes next time if you like [20:01] clivejo: did the merge on krdc BTW. seems to be fine in pbuilder now at least [20:59] * yofel throws invalid json at jenkins [20:59] :D [20:59] and a couple net.sf.json.JSONNull's just for the heck of it [21:00] in/out. too late now [21:05] LOL [21:05] now the fun begins [21:05] prty time ? [21:06] lots of speculation and interviews with "experts" [21:07] same here, whole day "-) [21:07] went did Postman Pat get a helicopter? [21:08] long night if you can stomach it [21:08] nah [21:08] Im not that interested in the result [21:09] the aftermath could be interesting though [21:09] indeed [21:10] Sky News: 52 %- stay, 48% - leave [21:10] and how do they know that?!? [21:10] dunno :D [21:10] it was fixed long before [21:11] i.e. 52%- "Cameron is in trouble", 48%- "Get rid of the government"? [21:11] UK - hey we want some laws changed in EU for us or we quit, than: ok we have what we wanted we stay [21:11] let people vote but it doesntmatter [21:12] its all a halfbaked mess [21:12] soee: true, thats what happened in Ireland [21:12] sorry, thats the wrong answer [21:12] that what was in Scotland when they voted to leave uk [21:12] says yes [21:14] remember "It doesn't matter who votes; it matters who counts the votes [21:15] ~ 150 votes: https://plus.google.com/u/0/110954078302330754910/posts/9Hef1REh2bd [21:23] grrr staging script keeps crashing [21:30] lol. dead heat. that would be funny [21:48] hm... that worked. [21:49] well, "worked" [21:51] * yofel grabs the krdc merge as a test dummy [21:54] *wonders what yofel is up to* [21:55] figuring out git push notifications for jenkins [21:56] Ah [21:57] oh, we have no jenkins job for krdc [21:57] so much for that [22:02] make one :P [22:03] script is crashing === baloo-widgets5 is not in the archive [22:07] ok, the triggers are actually dead easy... [22:08] now I just need to write a script to add an appropriate webhook to every repo [22:15] have you an example? [22:18] you just need the appropriate target for the jenkins git plugin, the akonadi-search builds were trigger with this: [22:18] curl -X POST http://kci.pangea.pub/git/notifyCommit?url=git%2Bssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/%2Bgit/akonadi-search [22:18] *triggered [22:19] launchpad sends json data with the request, which is ignored in this case [22:19] so LP can trigger KCI directly [22:20] yup. That's how the alioth kci triggers worked actually ^^ [22:20] they just used GET, not POST. [22:29] Plasma 5.6.5 -> Xenial landing ? [22:48] hooks for all repositories in place [22:48] lets see how that'll work out [22:51] What does in general? [23:13] yofel: have you tweaked the staging script ? [23:15] oh never mind I see the problem [23:16] * clivejo face plam