[07:47] <FourDollars> Hi, how can I see the debug messages for ubiquity in live system?
[07:49] <FourDollars> I tried to execute "sh -c ''ubiquity --debug gtk_ui'" in gnome-terminal but there is no debug message at all.
[07:52] <FourDollars> Oops, never mind. I found it at /var/log/installer/debug.
[12:52] <fish_> is there an easy way to add dkms modules to the ubuntu installer?
[12:52] <fish_> or do I have to buuld the modules myself and add them to the initrd?
[15:14] <fish_> actualyl I just realize therre is already a module in the kernel package but it's not included in the installer initrd
[15:14] <fish_> neither can I select it in the raid driver prompt
[15:15] <fish_> oh wait.. it's there for 3.13.0-24-generic, but the trusty-updates installer kernel is 3.13.0-54
[15:18] <fish_> ah no, sorry wrong suite. it's in trusty-updates
[15:21] <fish_> ..but only for ppc *sigh*
[15:23] <cyphermox> which module?
[15:23] <fish_> cyphermox: pm80xx
[15:25] <cyphermox> typically all the drivers you need are included in the kernel; from there it may depend what media you use to install
[15:25] <fish_> cyphermox: are there multiple variants of the installer initrd?
[15:26] <fish_> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/ <- I'm using this and it doesn't include the module
[15:36] <cyphermox> nah, that seems like the right one, unless you want to use the ubuntu-server iso.
[15:36] <fish_> I want to install ubuntu servers, yes ;)
[15:37] <cyphermox> sure, but there is either this link you pasted, which is the netboot installer, or you can use the big iso file that doesn't require network.
[15:38] <fish_> requiring network is fine, I just need it to load or include the raid controller module
[15:38] <cyphermox> when you run the netboot installer, you should be asked at some point to install extra installer components
[15:38] <cyphermox> from there I would expect pm80xx to be in scsi-modules or something
[15:40] <fish_> it just says no disk drive detected and pm80xx isn't included in the driver list
[15:40] <fish_> but as I said, looks like there is no kernel module for the current trusty-updates installer
[15:54] <cyphermox> yes, there are, but some aren't just installed automatically
[15:54] <cyphermox> if you go back to the menu, you should see that you can download extra installer components
[15:55] <cyphermox> from that list, there ought to be 'scsi-modules' which I think is the extra bits you need for pm80xx to work
[15:58] <cyphermox>  OTOH, it may be that the module just isn't included at all
[15:59] <cyphermox> fish_: best would be to ask on #ubuntu-kernel for a kernel, or file a bug... it looks like it's maybe not in any of the -modules packages for d-i
[15:59] <cyphermox> otherwise, it may be worth trying to use the server cd image:
[16:00] <fish_> but the server cd image is, well, a cd image and I need a initrd to pxe boot
[16:00] <cyphermox> http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-14.04.4-server-amd64.iso
[16:00] <cyphermox> hrm
[16:01] <cyphermox> there probably wouldn't be a difference there then
[16:01] <fish_> I'll patch the initrd myself, that should work
[16:01] <fish_> just need to figure out where to get those drivers.. ;)
[16:01] <fish_> at least I found the one for the other raid controller we have
[16:03] <cyphermox> fish_: you can file a bug or ask on #ubuntu-kernel to get the driver you need added to the d-i initrds, if that helps
[16:05] <fish_> cyphermox: but the driver isn't even available in the regular kernel debs
[16:09] <cyphermox> ok
[16:09] <cyphermox> all the more reason to ask the kernel team about it :)
[16:09] <cyphermox> sorry, I don't touch the kernel itself
[16:57] <CarlFK> how do I install onto an odroid c2? (and no saying "download some random binary image..." :p
[16:59] <CarlFK> well.. the installer kernel is a binary image I guess..  but trusted source so it's ok.  I guess.
[18:36] <cyphermox> CarlFK: sorry, the only answer is "download some random binary image". ARM devices are fun that way; they don't exactly run an installer in the straight sense of it
[18:37] <CarlFK> cyphermox: so where do those images come from?
[18:37] <CarlFK> like... how are they built ?
[18:37] <cyphermox> CarlFK: what you'll probably want to do for installing Ubuntu Touch is following the steps at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[18:38] <cyphermox> we build images more or less the same way for everything, there is a root filesystem being built, which you install along with other things like the kernel and initrd
[18:40] <cyphermox> where the images are for supported devices, we build them on Launchpad, for community-driven ports, people build them however they want -- we don't really have control over what might happen there
[18:47] <CarlFK> cyphermox: somewhere is a script that builds the ubuntu-desktop cd image ... I am pretty sure I have seen it.   Is there something similar for touch?
[18:49] <CarlFK> (and really I am trying to make a fairly minimal install for the odroid c2 - result will be a  headless router
[19:33] <cyphermox> it all uses the same scripts and same build process; part of it is Launchpad, part of it is lp:ubuntu-cdimage, part of it is lp:debian-cd, and still some of it is livecd-rootfs, but I would suggest you follow the Porting guide from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[19:33] <cyphermox> that will list just what you need to roll your own image for that device.
[19:53] <CarlFK> weird.   that page loads bits at time, starting with "This page does not exist or has been moved. If you feel that this is an error, please file a bug."
[19:53] <CarlFK> and then like 5 seconds later.. that is replaced with content
[19:55] <CarlFK> but yeah, thats about what I was looking for - thanks