[00:00] <nacc> capum321: their .deb repository? not their source repository.
[00:00] <capum321> yes, xamarin ppa repository, linux repository as well it's older though
[00:01] <nacc> capum321: does that repo support 16.04?
[00:01] <capum321> trusty's i believe
[00:02] <nacc> capum321: and you're on 14.04?
[00:02] <capum321> yes
[00:03] <capum321> actually their repository is http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/#debian-ubuntu-and-derivatives
[00:03] <capum321> debian wheezy
[00:04] <capum321> ?
[00:05] <neldogz> hey guys, anyone use wireless cards on their desktops with Ubuntu?
[00:06] <equipo_> hola perras
[00:06] <equipo_> respondan ps coñoooo
[00:09] <k1l> capum321: #mono for help with that. its really out of scope of this channel.
[00:32] <jimmyy> no girls in here too
[00:36] <kylerasp> im tryint to set up a permanent route on my raspberry pi on ubuntu mate
[00:37] <kylerasp> ive tried editing the etc/network/interfaces file
[00:37] <kylerasp> but it only adds the route if i start the system the restart networking
[00:37] <kylerasp> how can i get the route added on start up
[00:38] <kylerasp> then restart networking*
[00:38] <fsh> Hi guys, is anybody able to help me with an install on my mbp?
[00:38] <fsh> I keep getting missing operating system when I try to boot into it
[00:38] <fsh> I've formatted the HD and only have what the installer recommended. no dual boot
[00:39] <jaggz> my knockd seems to disappear periodically..
[00:39] <kylerasp> Anyone got advice?
[00:39] <jaggz> seems like a bad setup if it doesn't restart
[00:39] <wuseman> kylerasp: route?
[00:40] <kylerasp> wuseman: What do you mean?
[00:40] <jaggz> kylerasp, hmm.. it's not paying attention to routes in interfaces when you do if.up or whatever?
[00:40] <jaggz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/168033/how-to-set-static-routes-in-ubuntu-server
[00:41] <wuseman> ah sorry, meant static route?
[00:41] <kylerasp> I've only added the line "up route add -net <ip>/16 gw <ip> dev wlan0
[00:42] <kylerasp> "
[00:42] <kylerasp> not the others
[00:44] <kylerasp> jaggz: I'll try to add the others and see if it works, how should I change them to let it work on wlan0
[00:45] <jaggz> same thing but in wlan0 section in interfaces I'd think
[00:45] <kylerasp> jaggz: I have to have a section for it?
[00:46] <kylerasp> jaggz: the last line of my file (without the up route) is just iface lo inet loopback
[00:47] <jaggz> hmm.. I'm not sure..
[00:47] <jaggz> try it?
[00:50] <kylerasp> I added "auto wlan0    iface wlan0 inet static    up route add -net <ip>/16 gw <ip> dev wlan0
[00:50] <kylerasp> "
[00:51] <kylerasp> my card is now unmanaged XD
[00:51] <kylerasp> let me  remove those lines
[00:56] <jaggz> sorry.. not sure
[00:56] <kylerasp> grr lol
[00:57] <blackMatrix_NY> ubuntu yay
[00:59] <blackMatrix_NY> ping
[01:01] <katronix> Hey all, in Ubuntu for PHP7, what is the php7-curl package called? its not php7-curl
[01:02] <sponix> php5-curl - CURL module for php5
[01:02] <sponix> Not seeing php7, Just 5
[01:02] <Ben64> php-curl
[01:03] <katronix> I'll try that Ben64, thanks
[01:03] <SchrodingersScat> !info php-curl | katronix
[01:04] <KT_Volt> Xjoin #bitcoin
[01:07] <katronix> I realize this isn't the php channel, however I've installed php-curl, however my script still tells me that curl_init is not found. Any suggestions?
[01:10] <ripper> hi
[01:10] <ripper> hello?
[01:10] <katronix> hi ripper
[01:11] <_3925> I just installed Ubuntu onto a Windows XP machine. When I run "ip link", I see lo and enp0s25. When I run "ifconfig enp0s25" I can't find an IP. Does my computer have an IP?
[01:11] <ripper> just checking this hexchat thingy out
[01:11] <ripper> lol @ that question
[01:11] <katronix> _3925 if your online, then yes :)
[01:11] <_3925> Different computer
[01:11] <ripper> you ip-less dude like a ghost
[01:11] <ripper> lol
[01:12] <_3925> I can't connect to an Ethernet connection is the problem
[01:12] <ripper> missing driver?
[01:12] <_3925> I thought I was supposed to find an IP even if there were broken drivers
[01:13] <katronix> _3925: what does ipconfig return? (put it on something like pastebin)
[01:13] <ripper> so you can only conncet through wifi?
[01:13] <_3925> I can't connect through wifi either
[01:14] <ripper> heres what ya got to do get a glass of water and some sailt
[01:14] <ripper> dip one end of your routers eathernet wire into the glass
[01:14] <_3925> :p
[01:14] <somsip> !behelpful | ripper
[01:14] <ripper> lolll
[01:14] <_3925> ipconfig?
[01:14] <ripper> pff i thought it was a good idea to try
[01:16] <katronix> _3925: ipconfig will tell you what IP the devices are using
[01:16] <blackMatrix_NY> ipconfig -a
[01:16] <_3925> ah
[01:16] <_3925> No command 'ipconfig'
[01:16] <_3925> I can run ifconfig
[01:17] <katronix> _3925, run it on the linux machine
[01:17] <katronix> Can anyone help me with my php-curl issue?
[01:17] <_3925> What do you mean? I'm running it in terminal on the computer running Ubuntu
[01:17] <vm096_> katronix
[01:18] <ripper> dont say his name in vain
[01:18] <vm096_> what is your problem?
[01:18] <vm096_> exactly
[01:18] <vm096_> phpinfo();
[01:18] <katronix> vm096_: I've installed php-curl, however the script still says php doesn't recognize curl_init
[01:19] <somsip> katronix: did you restart apache?
[01:19] <vm096_> try to enable some extencion?
[01:19] <vm096_> apache?
[01:19] <vm096_> extension*
[01:20] <katronix> vm096_: ah that's what I needed ) thanks
[01:20] <vm096_> when did you install php?
[01:20] <vm096_> ok
[01:22] <ripper> you pulled it off vm096 well done ...welll done
[01:22] <_3925> Here is the output of ifconfig http://pastebin.com/wQu3qvDv
[01:22] <katronix> err actually somsip thanks, thats what I needed
[01:23] <somsip> katronix: np
[01:23] <basel> hi
[01:24] <basel> i am new user
[01:24] <basel> hello
[01:24] <somsip> basel: do you have a support question?
[01:24] <basel> no
[01:24] <basel> thanks
[01:24] <somsip> basel: ok - this is the support channel. If you just want to talk about ubuntu, type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[01:24] <Bashing-om> !manual | basel Have you seen:
[01:25] <basel> ok
[01:25] <basel> any system problem you help me to solve it?
[01:25] <somsip> basel: we try
[01:25] <basel> ok
[01:26] <vm096_>  "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[01:26] <vm096_> cant access
[01:26] <somsip> vm096_: no space before it, no quotes
[01:26] <Bashing-om> basel: Also worthwile: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty If you are on 16.04 .. there are a lot of difference however .
[01:27] <basel> ok
[01:27] <ripper> 16.4 is unstable
[01:27] <basel> so how i can chat with people here
[01:27] <somsip> basel: join the offtopic channel if it's about ubuntu or use...
[01:27] <somsip> !alis | basel
[01:27] <ripper> took for ever to inststall kali tools on 16.04
[01:28] <ripper> made me drink a lot of vodka
[01:28] <basel> ok
[01:28] <Bashing-om> basel: Our "chat" is #ubuntu-offtopic. this channel is support .
[01:28] <basel> thank you so much
[01:30] <_3925> I'm having some problems using an Ethernet connection. I just installed Ubuntu. Here are the outputs of ifconfig and ip link http://pastebin.com/jvwfsr7S
[01:30] <_3925> I think maybe my (other) computer doesn't have an IP assigned
[01:31] <vm096_> _3925, are you on hp laptop?
[01:31] <_3925> No
[01:31] <vm096_> ok
[01:31] <_3925> I installed Ubuntu onto a Windows XP PC
[01:31] <vm096_> very old hw?
[01:31] <vm096_> ubuntu 16.xx?
[01:32] <_3925> It's release 16.04
[01:32] <_3925> codename xenial
[01:33] <vm096_> and you hardware machine
[01:33] <_3925> It's about 7 years old
[01:33] <vm096_> is old, thats why use xp?
[01:33] <_3925> Yeah
[01:33] <vm096_> yeah
[01:33] <vm096_> ok
[01:33] <vm096_> did you try another release?
[01:33] <_3925> It had an IP before though
[01:33] <vm096_> like 12?
[01:33] <_3925> Haven't tried any other releases.
[01:33] <_3925> I'll do that though. Thanks
[01:34] <vm096_> pls if you can
[01:34] <vm096_> I have a problem like that
[01:34] <vm096_> on old machines with amd processor
[01:34] <vm096_> solved with version 12
[01:43] <Aggraxis> Good evening! :)
[01:44] <clueful> I have my own private NAT network at work, and was thinking about setting up a vpn so that I could access it as though I'm in my office.  I have an ubuntu server machine acting as my router/firewall, would it be hard to set up a VPN on that machine so that I could connect from home via osX / linux /windows?
[01:45] <somsip> clueful: this has some guidance https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html
[01:47] <bipul> !info php7
[01:47] <bipul> !info php7.0
[01:50] <vm096> try to install
[01:50] <vm096> sudo apt-get install php7.0-curl
[01:50] <Aggraxis> I have a yubikey neo with some gpg subkeys baked in. I normally work in windows with putty and gpg4win, and SSH authentication works fine. gpg--card-status, encrypting, signing, etc. all works there. I am working from a dual-boot install of ubuntu 16.04 (mate), and I noticed that I couldn't get SSH to pick up on the key in my 'smartcard'. I ran through some usual suspect stuff I ran into once before with 69-yubikey.rules and
[01:50] <Aggraxis> 70-u2f.rules for udev, the .bashrc stuff to pick up on the ssh_auth_sock pointing at the gpg agent, disabling gnome keyring with the 2 .startup files, and eyeballing the sshcontrol file in .gnupg. I could get gpg --card-status working, sign, and encrypt stuff. SSH kept saying the agent was refusing the connection. Then I decided in the meantime to get thunderbird and enigmail going. funny thing here. If I fire up thunderbird
[01:50] <Aggraxis> and decrypt a message my SSH stuff starts working like a charm. It will not work after a reboot until I go read a gpg-encrypted message again in enigmail. any ideas?
[01:50] <vekz> Hello
[01:50] <Aggraxis> (yikes)
[01:50] <bipul> !info php7.0
[01:50] <kylerasp> jaggz: figured it out
[01:51] <kylerasp> jaggz: threw in commands to add the route in rc.local and then restart the network
[01:51] <bipul> !info libapache2-mod-php5
[01:51] <bipul> !info libapache2-mod-php7
[01:51] <bipul> !info libapache2-mod-php7.0
[01:52] <vm096> ubuttu, was u with problem to install php7-curl?
[01:52] <bipul> !info php5-mysql
[01:52] <vm096> ubottu*
[01:52] <bipul> !info php7.0-mysql
[01:52] <vm096> what do you need? ubottu
[01:52] <OerHeks> bipul, /msg the bot please
[01:52] <somsip> vm096: you are talking to the bot
[01:52] <bipul> Oh sorry
[01:53] <vm096> what that mean?
[01:53] <somsip> !bot | vekz
[01:54] <sypher> !bot | vm096
[01:55] <clueful> somsip: That looks like a helpful resource...and I'll definitely read it as well as other relevant man pages...I was curious to get an opinion from someone who has done it before if it is relatively easy or if it ends up being a real pain to get right (and to what extent it is a security problem)
[01:55] <somsip> clueful: not done it myself so I can't help
[01:56] <vm096> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[01:56] <vm096> ok
[01:56] <vm096> I think I get it
[01:56] <Aggraxis> my experience with openvpn is from an embedded appliance standpoint, but generally speaking so long as you keep your certificates/keys properly secured you're good to go.
[01:58] <bipul> I do not see  php7.0-imagick in xenial? why?
[01:59] <clueful> Aggraxis: is it hard to get set up...the page posted makes it look doable perhaps, but is at least somewhat intimidating to me
[01:59] <clueful> Aggraxis: I assume there isn't a gui utility to help get things configured...
[01:59] <Aggraxis> it's a real handful the first time you do it, but there are lots of guides on setting it up, making certs, etc.
[02:00] <Aggraxis> i'm more of a routing/switching guy, some programming (from my college days), and more comfortable in windows than linux. i managed to pull it off by following the instructions.
[02:00] <vekz> How would I use a variable to edit a line in a file? For example if $var1 is set to "Duck", when the script run it changes "Dog" to "Duck" or whatever it's set to?
[02:01] <Aggraxis> if anything the learning experience should prove valuable. don't let the apparent complexity scare you off.
[02:01] <somsip> !info php-imagick | bipul
[02:01] <bipul> Also php7.0-memcache is not a available
[02:01] <Aggraxis> mind you last time i set one of these up was 3 years ago.
[02:01] <somsip> !info php-memcached | bipul
[02:01] <somsip> bipul: (unless you realy mean "memcache")
[02:02] <bipul> Yes, but what does it mean optional? here?
[02:02] <somsip> bipul: I dont understand your question
[02:03] <bipul> I checked with ubottu and i did not found the package, but here you pointed me this packages as  "In component universe, is optional"  what does that mean?
[02:03] <somsip> bipul: it means you only have to install it if you want. it's not a dependency for php7
[02:04] <bipul> oh ok.
[02:05] <vekz> can I use sed to do something like this? sed 's/$var1/$var2/' file1?
[02:05] <somsip> vekz: sed -i will work on the file
[02:05] <bipul> vekz: Yes you can
[02:05] <vekz> Alright, I'll try doing that again.
[02:05] <bipul> But you have to give hard substitution " " this one
[02:06] <somsip> vekz: backup the file in case it doesnt do what you want...
[02:06] <vekz> So "" instead of ''?
[02:06] <bipul> vekz: sed -i "s/$Pattern/$Replacement/' file
[02:06] <bipul> vekz: sed -i "s/$Pattern/$Replacement/" file
[02:06] <vekz> alright that's probably what I was doing wrong then.
[02:10] <bipul> !info php7-ming
[02:10] <bipul> !info php7.0-ming
[02:12] <somsip> !info php-ming | bipul
[02:12] <somsip> unexpected
[02:13] <bipul> somsip: Let me report this one :D
[02:14] <OerHeks>  no longer bundled with PHP as of PHP 5.3.0 http://php.net/manual/en/ming.install.php
[02:16] <ghort> anyone know how to tell if a usb key is bricked? i plug it in and it just gets hot, its not mounting
[02:17] <OerHeks> that could well be the symptoms of a bricked usb key
[02:18] <SchrodingersScat> would lsusb give clues?
[02:18] <ghort> lsusb is the same before and after i plug it in
[02:19] <ghort> nothing different in /dev/ either
[02:19] <wuseman> Aha, i would try 'sudo dmsg -c" plug in the device into the USB port wait for 30 seconds then type dmesg
[02:19] <wuseman> and post the final outpack back to us and hopefully we can answer ;p
[02:20] <wuseman> outpack lol, output ofc ;p
[02:20] <ghort> lol ok, trying...
[02:20] <lirik> hello. I have a strange trouble. all time interface language after reboot reset from Ukrainian to English. Why?
[02:22] <somsip> lirik: I had this on lubuntu where it would not change the default lang to /etc/default/locale when using system preferences. Editing that file manually fixed it.
[02:22] <wuseman> ghort: you got any intressing answer from the dmesg?
[02:22] <ghort> zip
[02:23] <ghort> no output at all
[02:23] <wuseman> Aha, then i would guess its broken and i assume you are sure the port working.
[02:26] <lirik> somsip: I opened this file. but everywhere in this language already set to uk_UA.UTF-8
[02:26] <somsip> lirik: and is that what it should be for Ukrainian?
[02:26] <lirik> somsip:yes
[02:27] <somsip> lirik: what about for LANG?
[02:27] <lirik> somsip: LANG="uk_UA.UTF-8"
[02:28] <somsip> lirik: surely that's english? wouldnt you need ru_UA?
[02:29] <somsip> lirik: though you may need to generate that locale if it is correct
[02:32] <lirik> First time I loaded systemit was ok. Then after reboot my system interface language setted up to English. I fixed it by manually in preferences changed to russian, then reboot and then change to Ukrain and reboot. after that it was fine. But again to next reboot -_-
[02:32] <lirik> somsip: I can`t do it all time :D
[02:33] <somsip> lirik: like I said, I had a problem with Lubuntu not keeping changes made to language preferences. May not be the same issue but sounds similar. But AIUI, if  you have LANG=uk_* you will see everything in English. And it is, and you are.
[02:34] <lirik> somsip:so, what i shall do?
[02:35] <somsip> lirik: I would backup /etc/default/locale, change LANG=ru_UA.UTF-8 and see if it works. Might not be the best way of doing it so maybe best to get some other ideas.
[02:36] <lirik> somsip: Well, I will try it. No choice) thanks.
[02:37] <sponix> Anyone have experience trying to get "Happy Wheels" Windows version to play on Linux ?
[02:38] <John__> hi
[02:38] <somsip> !winehq | sponix
[02:38]  * sponix has a great idea.. Thinks he will join #winehq and ask around ;)
[02:39] <OerHeks> or check playonlinux
[02:44] <vekz> awesome. Got it all working. Thanks :)
[02:45] <lirik> somsip: well, it still english)
[02:45] <somsip> lirik: hmm :-( Oh well, worth a try and no harm done
[02:47] <lirik> I noticed what in language setting all time in "language for menus and windows" panel after reboot left active only English.
[02:50] <arooni> hey folks;  i'd like to get a backup agent for ubuntu that can connect to AWS and perhaps AWS Glacier.  Ideally works with is compatible with Arq which i have running on my mac.  Any suggestions?
[02:50] <arooni> 14.04 if it matters right now
[02:55] <goddard> can i install the yakkety kernel in 16.04
[02:55] <sponix> goddard: the Who/What ?
[02:56] <goddard> the 16.10 kernel in 16.04
[02:56] <Ben64> goddard: when 16.10 comes out, yeah
[02:56] <OerHeks> do you really need  a mainline kernel??
[02:57] <sponix> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[02:57] <sponix> That is what I do for my Kernel(s)
[02:58] <goddard> sponix: cool
[02:58] <W00dP3ck3r> What's a mainline kernel? OerHeks
[02:58] <OerHeks> !mainline
[02:58] <sponix> goddard: Strike that from the record.. I got the wrong PPA   :P
[02:58] <OerHeks> just for testing
[03:00] <goddard> OerHeks: but the testing ppa is missing some patches?
[03:00] <W00dP3ck3r> thanks OerHeks
[03:01] <goddard> the 16.04 kernel has some bug preventing suspending my laptop
[03:02] <sponix> goddard: Actually the PPA I listed should work for you.. I am back on Linux Mint 17.3 that is based on Trusty 14.04   ;)
[03:03] <OerHeks> if you happen to know what kernel version has the patch, might work.
[03:05] <Al1> Looking for assistance with a CUPS issue in 16.04. My printer won't work any longer and I need to reload it.
[03:06] <wuseman> Al1: what dmesg telling you about the printer?
[03:07] <Al1> There was an error stating file not found in the cups directory. I had several jobs in the queue, and mistakenly deleted the printer. Looking to reload it to start over.
[03:08] <_3925> I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my ~7 year old Windows XP PC. Neither WIFI nor Ethernet connection work. Here are the outputs to "ifconfig" and "lspci". It looks like the computer doesn't have an IP. Is that so?
[03:08] <somsip> _3925: you were given bad advice to use an older version. Did you install 16.04 originally>
[03:08] <_3925> yep
[03:09] <_3925> Should I go back to 16?
[03:09] <_3925> (I had the same issue on 16)
[03:09] <wuseman> lol ya you got an very bad advice bro.
[03:09] <wuseman> have you loaded the right modules?
[03:09] <_3925> :|
[03:09] <somsip> _3925: I would say so. But first, what chipset are the ethernet/wifi ports using?
[03:10] <_3925> I'm not sure
[03:10] <wuseman> _3925: try lspci and see if you can find the devices
[03:10] <somsip> _3925: sudo lshw -C network
[03:11] <_3925> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection (rev 02(
[03:12] <_3925> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[03:12] <wuseman> Whats the problem, you cant get any ip?
[03:13] <somsip> _3925: the first result I find suggests that is old and people are having problems with that http://askubuntu.com/questions/712808/ubuntu-linux-kernel-4-2-0-can-i-setup-the-ethernet-driver-for-intel-82562v-2-o
[03:13] <_3925> I thought I should be able to see the IP when I run ifconfig
[03:14] <wuseman> When you runned the livedvd did you get any IP then?
[03:14] <_3925> Is that a command?
[03:15] <W00dP3ck3r> wuseman, runned? :p
[03:15] <somsip> W00dP3ck3r: not everyone here uses English as their first language. Show some respect
[03:15] <Al1> dmesg lists a plethora of information, but I haven't found my printer (HP Officejet 4630) listed anywhere...yet. It is (was) configured both USB and Wireless.
[03:15] <W00dP3ck3r> wuseman, sorry bro
[03:16] <wuseman> Ya, man its fine haha. _3925 no thats the cd/dvd you installing from, you can either "try ubuntu" or choose "install ubuntu" - If you wanna try you can "try " ubuntu and see if you any ip.
[03:17] <wuseman> aha Al1 you can grep the information like dmesg | grep HP next time, sorry for that
[03:17] <somsip> 8/wc
[03:17] <_3925> oh I installed ubuntu
[03:17] <_3925> I had an IP before I installed Ubuntu
[03:18] <wuseman> Ya, reboot the system and try boot from the usb/cd again and choose "try ubuntu" or whatever it says and see if it works. its pre-installed so you can try
[03:18] <_3925> OK
[03:18] <_3925> thx
[03:18] <somsip> _3925: solution for a very similar problem here - for debian, but worth working through http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=121573
[03:18] <somsip> !pm | W00dP3ck3r
[03:19] <W00dP3ck3r> somsip, is PM not allowed in this channel?
[03:19] <somsip> W00dP3ck3r: as the factoid says. And I dont respond to PMs
[03:20] <Al1> USB 2-4: Manufacturer: HP
[03:21] <W00dP3ck3r> Ok buddy ... Well, I have a question not specific to Ubuntu, but this Channel. How do  you propose I put forth my question? Thanks
[03:21] <_3925> The solution from that thread for debian didn't workj
[03:21] <Ben64> W00dP3ck3r: #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[03:21] <somsip> !guidelines | W00dP3ck3r (read this to make sure your question is not covered, else ask in offtopic)
[03:21] <_3925> I'm going to try instead of install
[03:21] <somsip> _3925: shame - worth a try
[03:21] <wuseman> _3925: try ubuntu with the livedvd and see if you get proper drivers from that pre-moded kernel
[03:21] <_3925> eyah
[03:21] <_3925> yeah
[03:22] <W00dP3ck3r> Thanks somsip and Ben64
[03:22] <wuseman> And if that works we will find an solution, hilight me when u are back if it works
[03:29] <user_z> hola
[03:30] <wuseman> Hey
[03:30] <W00dP3ck3r> Hi, need suggestion on a note-taking app which can sync up with my google account? thanks
[03:30] <user_z> hablas  español
[03:30] <Ben64> !es | user_z
[03:30] <wuseman> Al1: hows it going with the printer btw?
[03:31] <reisio> W00dP3ck3r: to what aspect of a google account
[03:31] <user_z> gracia broth
[03:31] <vm096> user_z que nececitas?
[03:33] <user_z> solo nesesito activar tor en backbox
[03:34] <W00dP3ck3r> reisio, um not sure, something google drive... and to be honest doesn't have to be a google account in particular ... any online reliable service and best if there is an android app for it
[03:34] <user_z> ?
[03:34] <reisio> that's a tall order
[03:35] <reisio> it might be simplest to get a generic note taking android app, and a generic cron-able sftp client for android
[03:35] <reisio> and combine with any decent host
[03:35] <xangua> W00dP3ck3r: Google tasks/calendar should sync with your Android device I guess
[03:35] <Al1> I tried to find it using the URL, but I get a CUPS internal error.
[03:36] <W00dP3ck3r> xangua, so how to use that on my desktop? I am using Xenial MATE 64 bit
[03:36] <Al1> It does work in a Virtualbox Windows 10 session as USB, but can't find it in Ubuntu
[03:36] <wuseman> you cant find the printer in your ubuntu install?
[03:37] <wuseman> didnt dmesg tell you that it found the hp printer?
[03:37] <user_z> carajo no entiendo nada del ingles
[03:38] <sponix> goddard: You get your Kernel issues resolved ?
[03:38] <Al1> No. There is an entry in the dmesg for HP as USB, but I can't find it in system settings.
[03:42] <vm096> oh yo no se
[03:42] <vm096> tor browser?
[03:42] <wuseman> ?
[03:43] <Al1> System settings/printers reports no printers ; since I deleted it I understand that. If I try to add it using URL, CUPS gives me an internal error. If I try network printer, it requests a password, which I'm not aware of. It's not my Linux system password.
[03:43] <Megalathesaurus> hey
[03:43] <reisio> hey mega
[03:43] <Megalathesaurus> how you doing?
[03:44] <Al1> I think CUPS is corrupt after the latest system upgrade. Any way to reload just that?
[03:44] <wuseman> Al1: nah it cant report any printer if its not found. Have you reloaded the module for the printer?
[03:44] <hongliangsam> do anybody have using latern?it seems doent work
[03:44] <Al1> Don't know how. Any suggestions?
[03:45] <Al1> Sorry. I'm a relative newbie to Linux.
[03:46] <wuseman> Its fine man everyone have been there, whats the model number?
[03:46] <Al1> Hp OfficeJet 4630
[03:48] <wuseman> btw, whats lsmod | grep usb gives?
[03:48] <wuseman> for output
[03:51] <Al1> Only have entry for logitech, which I presume is the mouse and keyboard
[03:51] <wuseman> Ok
[03:51] <wuseman> Lets troubleshoot then
[03:51] <Al1> Great, Thanks!
[03:52] <wuseman> Al1: let us begin here: type 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and when you gonna unplug the usb cable you should see any message, and then replug it
[03:52] <wuseman> Is it quiet or you getting any response?
[03:52] <arooni> anyone have any suggestions for backup agent for ubuntu 14.04 to backup to amazon s3 galcier?
[03:53] <Al1> response
[03:53] <wuseman> Great, thats awesome.
[03:54] <wuseman> hp-info -i and choose the printer
[03:55] <Al1> not installed
[03:55] <Al1> installing
[03:55] <wuseman> Perfect.
[03:56] <wuseman> Hopefully it works now
[03:56] <Al1> no device found that supports this feature
[03:56] <wuseman> aha.
[03:57] <wuseman> try lpinfo -v is it not detected still from the CUPS?
[03:58] <somsip> arooni: I'm not seeing anything that offers this out of the box, but you could use any backup solution with s3fs-fuse or some other way of mounting a bucket that has a policy attached to push out to long-term and glaciar storage. I find a github project that allows restoring of Arq backups, but not saving in the same format. So, nothing official
[03:58] <arooni> somsip shame; id love the same features of arq but on ubuntu
[03:59] <Al1> CUPS has it listed now!
[03:59] <arooni> somsip if im already using arq to backup ; would there be any point to sort of moutning the ubuntu drive on my mac comptuer how (network mount) and then using arq to backup?
[03:59] <wuseman> We moving foward.
[03:59] <somsip> arooni: if someone has made an Arq-restore then it's not a irreversible encryption scheme in use. Maybe there is something out there
[03:59] <Al1> Installed and tested OK. You da Man!
[03:59] <wuseman> Enjoy man
[03:59] <somsip> arooni: https://github.com/asimihsan/arqinator
[03:59] <Al1> Thanks!!!
[03:59] <wuseman> You welcome:)
[04:00] <somsip> arooni: I guess you could map the drive from OSX and include it in the backup collection, but that's outside the scope of ubuntu support
[04:01] <arooni> somsip i think getting backup working indepdently of osx would be ideal
[04:01] <Skitzo> Boop
[04:01] <arooni> that way it would backup over any connection
[04:01] <Skitzo> Sorry. Girlfriend... 😐
[04:02] <somsip> arooni: Personally, I would reach out to the developers of arqinator and https://sreitshamer.github.io/arq_restore/
[04:03] <bear_> hey
[04:03] <bear_> Question
[04:03] <bear_> A very strange one
[04:03] <somsip> bear_: on one line please
[04:04] <bear_> Lets say I GPU passthrough my main gpu (my only) to a VM, when the vm shuts down can it release it to the host?
[04:04] <reisio> bear_: it's unlikely to have ever been monopolizing it
[04:04] <bear_> reisio, I want to go a full PCI-E passthrough
[04:04] <bear_> So the Guest sees it natively
[04:04] <reisio> but yes, I can't imagine it wouldn't be made available to the host
[04:05] <bear_> Even after I release?
[04:06] <reisio> hrmm?
[04:06] <reisio> try it and see
[04:06] <bear_> I was abouto ask a question
[04:06] <bear_> But I feel it would be better off done with pfsense...
[04:07] <reisio> far out
[04:08] <bipul> !info mysql-server
[04:20] <priuon> Hello. I am using xubuntu on my laptop and df shows me 90GB free space on a partition I use for /home but transmission gives an ERROR no disc space. What is the problem?
[04:21] <wuseman> Problably target path, check the settings
[04:21] <priuon> could it be that the resizing of the partition that I did when installing xubuntu did somehow not resize the partition?
[04:22] <wuseman> If it says its 90GB free its 90GB free, if you aint running it as root i would but my salary on the target path.
[04:23] <priuon> wuseman: Are you talking about the download path i save the files in with transmission? they all point to the Downloads folder located in /home/usr/
[04:23] <priuon> wuseman: there is also no other drive showing full capacity (I checked that)
[04:23] <wuseman> Aha. what df -h telling you about your /home folder?
[04:23] <bear_> II go tanother question
[04:24] <R13ose> How do I know if my mouse on my acer laptop is making noise?
[04:24] <bear_> Anyone here know if I can use Linux on a surface or a surface book?
[04:24] <priuon> wuseman: oh darn. I think I got the problem. There was something mounted differently than I remembered it
[04:25] <wuseman> oh priuon, you can resize the partition easily.
[04:25] <ARUCAL> I have only used ubuntu for a reasonably short amont of time. And Someone told me to start using IRC to chat. They also told me I should register. But I don't know how to do this?
[04:25] <bear_> Arcaire, /ns register <password> <email>
[04:25] <ARUCAL> thanks
[04:26] <bear_> np
[04:26] <wuseman> priuon: how big was the partition btw? :p
[04:26] <bear_> not a ubuntu prbolem btw, I suggest #freenode
[04:26] <somsip> !register | ARUCAL
[04:27] <ARUCAL> Thank you bear_ and ubottu and somsip
[04:27] <priuon> wuseman: 300GB
[04:27] <bear_> :)
[04:27] <bear_> ubottu is a bot btw
[04:27] <wuseman> Wow. thats even bigger then 90GB kinda and its full anyway?
[04:28] <wuseman> Thats really wierd.
[04:28] <ARUCAL> LOL, didn't know that
[04:28] <priuon> wuseman: No it turned out that my main partition got filled up due to some bind mounts
[04:28] <priuon> wuseman: had totally forgtoeen about these
[04:29] <wuseman> Aha, well your problem was easily solved than ;D
[04:29] <priuon> wuseman: well I have to move all the data now. quite the hassle
[04:30] <bipul> How to use this command sudo systemctl kill ? killa what ? pid?
[04:30] <priuon> wuseman: I guess I'll go get a smoke while waiting. cheers
[04:30] <wuseman> Cheers, have fun man
[04:30] <wuseman> bipul: bipul find the pid number and just do something like pkill -9 id.
[04:30] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my question?
[04:31] <R13ose> I can't find line-in on my volume settings
[04:31] <bipul> Yes, but there is a specific command for terminalting process
[04:31] <wuseman> I didnt understood the question, never heard about a mouse that made noises
[04:31] <R13ose> Never?
[04:31] <wuseman> No
[04:31] <wuseman> You wanna put your volume up?
[04:32] <wuseman> Aha. What about alsamixer, its pretty awesome
[04:33] <R13ose> trying
[04:35] <Thawne> Hello
[04:35] <wuseman> Great, you gonna find it there R13ose i belive.
[04:35] <R13ose> looking
[04:38] <R13ose> I see no line there
[04:39] <ARUCAL> Do I have to register using the <>  around the email and password?
[04:40] <wuseman> its a microphone you wanna raise volume for R13ose ?
[04:40] <wuseman> no ARUCAL
[04:40] <ARUCAL> ok
[04:40] <bazhang> ARUCAL, no
[04:40] <ARUCAL> thanks
[04:40] <ARUCAL>    	 	 	 	 		@page { margin: 2cm } 		p { margin-bottom: 0.25cm; line-height: 120% } 		a:link { so-language: zxx } 	   /msg nickserv register Yuna129;Journalistic7102“Ability12, Arucal@yandex.com
[04:40] <R13ose> wuseman: no, I want to get rid of the mouse sound when I click my touchpad.
[04:40] <ARUCAL> oops
[04:40] <ARUCAL> have to change the password
[04:40] <ARUCAL> was that public?
[04:40] <wuseman> yes
[04:40] <ARUCAL> yikes
[04:41] <wuseman> In future use such command on your server buffer for your own security and not in a chan.
[04:41] <don_> how do I resolve the following:
[04:41] <don_> (rhythmbox:6318): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_value_get_uint: assertion `G_VALUE_HOLDS_UINT (value)' failed
[04:41] <wuseman> R13ose: aha, i have no idea about taht setting to be honest :/
[04:41] <R13ose> line?
[04:42] <wuseman> don_: thats from a plugin i would guess.
[04:42] <don_> yeah - I played an .mp3 from a website via Lynx.
[04:43] <wuseman> Unload the plugins and restart and hopefully it will works.
[04:43] <R13ose> I have tried 3 different audio programs
[04:43] <don_> it opens Rhythmbox, which plays the file but this message appears in the terminal
[04:44] <ARUCAL> I have registered, with a different password offcourse
[04:44] <wuseman> ARUCAL: nice but those questions are for > #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:45] <ARUCAL> Thanks
[04:46] <wuseman> R13ose: aha, its a touchpad you got and not a laptop, sorry im tired i have been awake for 2 days now but ya. then i got you wrong i thought it was a mouse. Or hey, is it a mouse or touchpad? You said two different things
[04:46] <R13ose> touchpad built into the laptop
[04:47] <wuseman> Alright, and when you press on right or left button it make a sound?
[04:47] <wuseman> Thats not default
[04:48] <R13ose> wuseman: yep
[04:49] <R13ose> wuseman: what do I do?
[04:49] <Guest71278> what u want too
[04:49] <R13ose> Oh
[04:50] <Guest71278> what you doing
[04:50] <wuseman> R13ose: i have no idea i never heard about a such case, i reading about it right now on google and i cant find any answers
[04:50] <R13ose> wuseman: me either when I searched this
[04:51] <wuseman> It can be broken, its a lenovo?
[04:51] <R13ose> Acer
[04:51] <Guest71278> im bored
[04:52] <wuseman> Seems other people had the same problem its a hw failure: http://i45.tinypic.com/j77x9t.jpg
[04:52] <wuseman> Its not a ubuntu failure
[04:53] <R13ose> wuseman: oh my :(
[04:54] <wuseman> :-*(
[04:54] <LiteOP> #reddit
[04:54] <R13ose> touchpads are not suppose to make a sound?
[04:55] <wuseman> Not afaik if its not some kind disability help
[04:57] <wuseman> The only thing i know makes sound if you play / touch is the PS4 control else nah never heard about touchpads that answered with a noise if you pressed a button, but now we are offtopic :p
[04:57] <R13ose> I don't see any disability on
[04:58] <wuseman> Nah, i meant it could be that if it really was a real "noise" sound from some kind of speakers but nah, its a hw failure but i wont answer more now about it in this chan atleast :p
[04:59] <R13ose> okay
[05:01] <R13ose> I am out
[05:09] <JadenTerra> So uh, what's up?
[05:09] <reisio> good question
[05:10] <JadenTerra> Here's a good one; anyone have a cool mouse theme they'd recommend?
[05:10] <bear_> How do you guys handle making the switch to Linux from windows
[05:10] <bear_> It's kinda ruff.
[05:11] <Falafel> yo
[05:11] <Triffid_Hunter> bear_: haha try switching back after a decade, it's even rougher ;)
[05:11] <JadenTerra> Honestly, I had finally had it with Windows 8. I had to reset it to factory settings about once a month.
[05:12] <JadenTerra> I quote honestly feel like I connect with my machines better on a Linux box than I ever did on a Windows machine.
[05:12] <reisio> bear_: wearing a cape
[05:12] <reisio> bear_: rough how?
[05:13] <JadenTerra> Know what I mean? I feel like it's an extensions of myself rather than just a tool to use.
[05:13] <bear_> reisio, Windows felt polished
[05:13] <bear_> Everything just worked
[05:13] <reisio> bear_: what doesn't work?
[05:13] <bear_> Under Linux, it's less polished but everything just works
[05:13] <reisio> okay, so what's less polished?
[05:14] <Triffid_Hunter> bear_: heh my persistent experience with windows is that it feels polished but nothing ever works right
[05:14] <Triffid_Hunter> bear_: and people keep telling me that what I want is impossible on that platform
[05:14] <bear_> reisio, everything.
[05:14] <JadenTerra> That's exaclty how I feel!
[05:14] <bear_> reisio, Little things like Areo Snap
[05:14] <bear_> My taskbar sits on one screen only desbite having two
[05:14] <bear_> But it treats both as one.
[05:15] <bear_> But it respects boundries
[05:15] <Triffid_Hunter> bear_: y'know, you can set up most linux stuff to do whatever you like.. not sure how amenable unity is to being configured; I use kde and I can change everything and anything about how my desktop functions
[05:15] <bear_> Triffid_Hunter, That's the Windows "it just worked"
[05:16] <bear_> I'm missing all my Super shortcuts.
[05:16] <reisio> bear_: I forget what aero snap is, positioning a window on left/right/etc.?
[05:16] <Triffid_Hunter> bear_: sure, but try finding a way to add always-on-top and all-desktops buttons to the titlebar in windows
[05:17] <reisio> bear_: what DE are you using?
[05:17] <bear_> reisio, put it to top to expand it to window
[05:17] <JadenTerra> Do any of you like Unity?
[05:17] <bear_> no...
[05:17] <Myrtti> yes
[05:17] <bear_> reisio, LXDE
[05:18] <JadenTerra> Can you tell me why you don't? I constantly read about how terrible it is, but I've never really heard the why.
[05:18] <reisio> bear_: well LXDE uses an comparatively simplistic window manager, which is why most of what you're complaining about is happening
[05:18] <reisio> bear_: if you install compiz & ccsm, and briefly configure with ccsm, you'll get much of what you want
[05:18] <bear_> I also service windows machines for people quite often
[05:18] <somsip> bear_: find something you like and install it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_window_managers
[05:18] <reisio> s/an/a/
[05:19] <bear_> I love Openbox though
[05:19] <bear_> That's what makes it hard. I used to use Crunchbang and Openbox was just fluid.
[05:19] <bear_> Nothing ever in the way
[05:19] <bear_> No icons, nothing.
[05:20] <somsip> bear_: why havent you installed openbox then?
[05:20] <reisio> bear_: uhuh...
[05:20] <bear_> somsip, LXDE comes with it
[05:20] <reisio> only you're complaining about features it lacks
[05:20] <cooldharma06> hi all
[05:20] <reisio> pick a side :p
[05:20] <reisio> cooldharma06: hio
[05:20] <cooldharma06> i am facing the folloeing error while taking snapshot of my virtual machine
[05:20] <cooldharma06> module ehci-orion not found in modules.dep
[05:20] <cooldharma06> any suggestions
[05:20] <somsip> bear_: LXDE is LXDE. Openbox is openbox.
[05:20] <bear_> somsip, LXDE uses Openbox...
[05:21] <bear_> I hope you realzie that.
[05:21] <bear_> LXDE = DE, Openbox = WM
[05:21] <somsip> bear_: actually, what reisio said. This isn't support now, it;s just you complaining.
[05:21] <bear_> I asked about my Super keys
[05:21] <wuseman> lol you guys have went offtopic !
[05:21] <bear_> How do I globally bind them?
[05:21] <somsip> bear_: lxde uses adapted openbox, not vanilla openbox
[05:22] <reisio> again, if you used compiz, you could bind keys
[05:22] <bear_> >His Ford F150 is red not black therefor isn't a F150
[05:22] <reisio> for openbox I'm not sure if there's anything but separate utilities, like xbindkeys
[05:22]  * reisio shrugs
[05:22] <bear_> I thought compiz died with Gnome2
[05:22] <bear_> or am I thinking of something else
[05:22] <cooldharma06> anybody??
[05:23] <reisio> compiz experienced a period of reduced maintenance
[05:23] <reisio> ATM it is maintained
[05:23] <bear_> Super arrowkeys work
[05:23] <reisio> and being open source, will always been maintained as long as anyone at all can be bothered to
[05:23] <azizLIGHT> where does the dash load .desktop files from? i cannot find this 1 program in /usr/share/applications/ or in /home/aziz/.local/share/applications
[05:23] <reisio> azizLIGHT: which program
[05:23] <wuseman> cooldharma06: i belive you have to go into your kernel to fix that
[05:23] <azizLIGHT> reisio: teamviewer :(
[05:23] <bear_> reisio, would you suggest mate?
[05:23] <bear_> I am coming from 7
[05:24] <reisio> azizLIGHT: find . -iname '*teamv*desktop'
[05:24] <wuseman> IOMMU i would search for cooldharma06, you got a gbit motherboard?
[05:24] <reisio> might be in /opt
[05:24] <reisio> or ~/.wine
[05:24] <reisio> dpkg -L should know, really, unless you didn't use dpkg (silly)
[05:24] <reisio> bear_: no... I would suggest compiz
[05:24] <reisio> I think I already have, even...
[05:24] <bear_> resisI'm talking as coming from 7
[05:24] <cooldharma06> wuseman actually its a virtual machine i took snapshot
[05:25] <bear_> Would mate give me a easier transition
[05:25] <reisio> GNOME, KDE, & Xfce also all have similar features these days
[05:25] <reisio> compiz is arguably the "lightest", as it is a window manager alone
[05:25] <wuseman> cooldharma06: aha i see. i never used virtualboxes so i cant help you here, sorry bro :(
[05:25] <reisio> bear_: no
[05:25] <bear_> reisio, again, it's about transitioning
[05:25] <reisio> bear_: probably Xfce and compiz would be simplest
[05:25] <bear_> Not even the Aero parts, just would things feel more familiar
[05:25] <reisio> bear_: but plain Xfce might also suffice
[05:25] <cooldharma06> wuseman anyway thanks dude..
[05:26] <reisio> bear_: well, KDE will be the most familiar out of the box
[05:26] <bear_> XFCE is very mac like isn't it?
[05:26] <reisio> bear_: but it's more complicated than Xfce, IMO
[05:26] <wuseman> Hey azizLIGHT /usr/share/applications or ~/.*conf
[05:26] <reisio> bear_: no, Xfce is versatile
[05:26] <azizLIGHT> reisio: you are right. its in /opt
[05:26] <reisio> azizLIGHT: /opt/ is the traditional place for crappy software like teamviewer & its kind :D
[05:27] <wuseman> Hehe
[05:27] <bear_> Speaking about the other things I'm missing
[05:27] <azizLIGHT> it bundles its own wine version eh
[05:27] <bear_> Photo editing and Video editing, what is suggested?
[05:27] <bear_> I'm going to try darkroom but what do I do for Video?
[05:27] <bear_> Adobe cloud is a joke.
[05:27] <somsip> !info lives | bear_ (sometimes gets recommended)
[05:28] <bear_> somsip, reminds me of virtualdub
[05:29] <somsip> !video | bear_ (this might have suggestions too)
[05:29] <somsip> and...no
[05:29] <bear_> I guess I'll install 7 in a VM for those needs
[05:29] <bear_> Ty for trying
[05:29] <Triffid_Hunter> bear_: unfortunately there's not much in the way of good video editing software for linux.. the toolchains are excellent (ffmpeg et al) but the frontends are klunky at best
[05:29] <reisio> bear_: kdenlive is probably what will be most familiar
[05:29] <bear_> Triffid_Hunter, exactly!
[05:29] <bear_> Why can't anyone work on a damn good Linux video editor?!
[05:30] <reisio> nah, there are plenty of decent frontends
[05:30] <bear_> the hard parts are handled by ffmpeg!
[05:30] <reisio> the real problem is that video editing is fundamentally awful, on any OS :p
[05:30] <Triffid_Hunter> bear_: it's a great question, wanna find out and make one?
[05:30] <drama> bear_, Blender
[05:30] <Triffid_Hunter> blender does video editing?
[05:30] <bear_> Triffid_Hunter, I'd gladly contribute money to a project to help spark dev
[05:30] <JadenTerra> bear_: The longer you use Linux, the less you'll want to use Windows. Keep a Windows machine around or a VM and slowly switch. I did. Glad I did too.
[05:30] <drama> yup
[05:30] <bear_> JadenTerra, I'm not new to Linux
[05:30] <bear_> I'm new to Linux on the desktop.
[05:31] <Triffid_Hunter> I got a windows vm somewhere.. can't remember the last time I used it though
[05:31] <bear_> I tried windows server and administration was hell. No SSH?!
[05:31] <Triffid_Hunter> bear_: haha I read they're gonna add it soon
[05:31] <bear_> Too late.
[05:31] <bear_> Debian rocks my world :)
[05:31] <Triffid_Hunter> bear_: I switched to linux desktop about a decade ago fwiw
[05:31] <bear_> Trying Ubuntu server 16.04 though
[05:33] <hateball> bear_: Have you tried Kdenlive for video editing
[05:33] <azizLIGHT> for some reason, if a .desktop file has Icon=wine, then it gets a teamviewer icon. how do i fix this
[05:33] <wuseman> You guys really should move to -offtopic chan :)
[05:34] <bear_> hateball, no
[05:35] <bear_> must be +r for ubuntu offtopic.
[05:35] <bear_> crud
[05:36] <drama> Blender video editing quick start http://danielpocock.com/quick-start-blender-video-editing
[05:36] <bear_> I'll just use windows in a VM with gpu passthrough for that
[05:41] <Secret-Fire> ubuntu keeps hibernating or suspending after inactivity, how can i stop this?
[05:41] <JadenTerra> power settings.
[05:41] <reisio> sprocket+wand icon at left
[05:41] <reisio> or alt+f2, power
[05:43] <Secret-Fire> reisio, i tried that, the same thing happens
[05:43] <wuseman> aha.
[05:44] <wuseman> then you can try do this: 'vim /etc/default/grub' go look for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and then add acpi=off apm=off
[05:45] <reisio> or check your BIOS for similar options
[05:45] <wuseman> and if that wont help you can add this to your .xinitrc file: setterm -blank 0 -powersave off -powerdown 0
[05:46] <wuseman> If you on console just set consoleblank value to 0, hopefully this will fix it Secret-Fire
[05:46] <Secret-Fire> "set consoleblank 0" ?
[05:46] <wuseman> no
[05:47] <Secret-Fire> ok ill open it in gedit
[05:47] <wuseman> consoleblank=0 in /boot/grub/grub.conf
[05:47] <wuseman> but thats for your monitor. try the other things first
[05:48] <Secret-Fire> wuseman : add the acpi rules on next line?
[05:49] <wuseman> ya add those on 1 line each on the bottom, but if you really wanna find the problem for the future add 1 by 1 and try and you will find the right setting next tiem
[05:49] <wuseman> time*
[05:49] <sayur> lightwork for video editing but it just work in 64 bit
[05:50] <wuseman> Had same issue and it was consoleblank=0 and it made me crazy cause i needed wait like 30minutes everytime i tried allthing cause the timer was set on that.
[05:50] <wuseman> So i never gonna forget those settings ,p
[05:50] <wuseman> ;p
[05:51] <Secret-Fire> wuseman : >.<
[05:52] <wuseman> You got WD-GREEN drives?
[05:54] <tatertots> hello everyone
[05:54] <wuseman> Secret-Fire: dont forget to upgrade grub after btw and not just reboot.
[05:54] <wuseman> Hey tatertots
[05:54] <wuseman> update not upgrade ;p
[05:55] <Secret-Fire> wuseman : i did
[05:55] <wuseman> Great
[05:55] <Secret-Fire> wuseman : it reminded me in terminal
[05:55] <wuseman> Thats nice
[05:55] <Secret-Fire> wuseman : or i read it in grub
[05:55] <Secret-Fire> dont recall
[05:56] <wuseman> And if its still hibernate i have no idea but i doubt it gonna hibernate after you fixed this. Would surprise me.
[05:56] <tatertots> i've been putting off making some changes to grub on one of my laptops...kinda makes me want to go ahead and get it done but i think i'll keep putting it off a little longer
[05:57] <tatertots> :)
[05:57] <wuseman> Grub2 is nice and everything that can happen is that you just need to reinstall grub, i have a nice theme for grub with my gf as background :p
[05:58] <tatertots> sweet
[05:58] <wuseman> If you know what you are doing you can speed up your ubuntu boot a little bit
[06:00] <IronY> Anyone alive?
[06:00] <IronY> 17020 root       20   0 21020   180     4 R 99.7  0.0  5:41.58 /usr/sbin/blkmapd
[06:00] <wuseman> Howdy IronY, alot of guys are ready for listen
[06:00] <tatertots> I think i'm alive...haven't had coffee yet but i'm here
[06:00] <IronY> any idea why blkmapd would be consuming an entire core
[06:00] <IronY> thanks wuseman and tatertots :D
[06:00] <IronY> lol
[06:01] <hateball> IronY: have you looked at the logs
[06:02] <IronY> No, which log should I be looking at?
[06:02] <Secret-Fire> thx wuseman
[06:02] <wuseman> It worked Secret-Fire ?
[06:02] <Secret-Fire> wuseman, i won't know til the morning
[06:02] <IronY> nothing new in dmesg
[06:03] <wuseman> haha ya thats the bad part, but hey patience is the key for success. Goodluck.
[06:04] <tatertots> fired up an old laptop a couple weeks ago..it had feisty fawn on it lol
[06:05] <azizLIGHT> how do i make ubuntu recognize there is icons in an .exe file that it should be able to use for .desktop file?
[06:08] <reisio> azizLIGHT: separate them out, or run it through Wine
[06:08] <reisio> #winehq
[06:08] <azizLIGHT> thanks
[06:09] <reisio> much better thank you aziz
[06:09] <azizLIGHT> problem is im using crossoverlinux and it uses an older version of wine. these problems are solved in wine/wine staging i believe
[06:09] <reisio> using crossoverlinux does sound problematic
[06:09] <IronY> today I learned I need to learn apparmor configuration...
[06:10] <reisio> yeah?
[06:10] <IronY> hours wasted wondering why i cannot pass through a usb via qeumu kvm but it works if i use virt manager and do it manually
[06:10] <IronY> all because the default does not have a w flag in the profile
[06:10] <reisio> heh
[06:10] <reisio> gj
[06:12] <IronY> lol thanks, finally build a home server thats not some 5 year old laptop
[06:12] <reisio> mmm, hardware
[06:12] <tatertots> one of my server is still a 5 year old laptop lol
[06:12] <tatertots> but it does what it's supposed to do
[06:12] <reisio> all my servers are hardened apple ][s
[06:13] <IronY> LOL
[06:13] <reisio> use an intellivision for a router
[06:13] <tatertots> lol
[06:13] <hateball> oh, is this -offtopic now
[06:13] <IronY> tatertots: as did mine, just bought a 4k tv and suddenly my needs changed from a single laptop hard drive to something that can transcode multiple hvec streams
[06:14] <reisio> and my phone is a rotary facade on top of an IP telephony implementation writ in minecraft red bricks
[06:14] <IronY> reisio: my first router was a 486 connected to a hub running coyote linux off a 3.5 inch floppy
[06:14] <IronY> was the coolest thing ever
[06:14] <reisio> sheesh :p
[06:14]  * wuseman > #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:15] <reisio> wuseman: you sound like hateball, only laggier
[06:15] <tatertots> I'm still satisfied with 720p res h.264
[06:15] <wuseman> Haha
[06:15] <reisio> :p
[06:15] <IronY> Sorry, forgot I was on freenode for a second :P
[06:15] <reisio> tatertots: yup
[06:15] <reisio> my laptop res is very close to x720
[06:15] <reisio> this hardware can do h.265 at that res, though, so that's preferred
[06:16] <IronY> the i5 sandybridge could not handle hvec trasconding in plex
[06:16] <IronY> i know thats more of a plex issue
[06:16] <IronY> but it is what it is
[06:16] <tatertots> my dad bought a 80 inch 4k...netflix has some 4k content that looks amazing
[06:16] <wuseman> lol a rpi can handle the transcoding on plex
[06:17] <IronY> tatertots: if he has HDR check out marco polo
[06:17] <wuseman> my pentium too :p
[06:17] <reisio> I got an SBC like _right_ before h.265 hit the scene that can't quite deal with 1080p h.265
[06:17] <reisio> which is unfortunate
[06:17] <IronY> wuseman: of 4k content ?!
[06:17] <wuseman> ah 4k, no sorry
[06:17] <wuseman> but 1080p without any lags.
[06:17] <reisio> newer rpis do hevc?
[06:18] <IronY> I think only current gen intel and nvidia do hardware hevc
[06:18] <tatertots> transcoding?...what's your source?...a atsc tuner ?
[06:18] <reisio> I'd be surprised if intel does
[06:18] <IronY> reisio: quick sync does now
[06:18] <IronY> getting it compiled with ffmpeg is next to impossible unless u want to run cnetos with like kernel version 2.6
[06:18] <reisio> IronY: cool
[06:18] <wuseman> It depends, but my rpi3 can play ~10Mbit/s 1080p HEVC but its overclocked to max
[06:18] <reisio> IronY: really? that's odd...
[06:19] <IronY> intels media SDK involves kernel patching
[06:19] <reisio> wuseman: interesting
[06:20] <IronY> my rp1 cannot do very much anymore :/
[06:20] <tatertots> i transcode video maybe once a year...when victoria's secret fashion show comes on tv
[06:20] <reisio> oh I see
[06:20] <IronY> LOL
[06:20] <IronY> so more on topic
[06:20] <reisio> 3 doesn't have hardware extensions for it, but it arguably fast enough to do it the hard way
[06:20] <reisio> but is*
[06:21] <IronY> I am running 4.6.2 and I am not seeing any USB 3.1 reporting
[06:21] <IronY> superspeed is showing at 5.0gbps , thought 4.6 was supposed to enable 10
[06:21] <tatertots> are we supposed to stay on topic here?...i didn't mean to break any rules..was just making conversation since it was kinda slow in here
[06:21] <hateball> !ot | It's quite simple
[06:21] <IronY> tatertots: sometimes freenode frowns on the c part of irc
[06:22] <tatertots> ah i see
[06:22] <reisio> in this case substitute 'freenode' for 'hateball' as you desire :p
[06:22] <somsip> IronY: nothing to do with freenode - it's what this channel is set up for
[06:22] <IronY> then there are people like hateball who do not contribute to conversations but are the first to enforce the 'rules'
[06:22] <reisio> IronY: attempt to enforce :p
[06:23] <somsip> IronY: first time i've seen you here. Seen hateball for years...
[06:23] <IronY> somsip: I have been here for years too, i just come, and chat, and then get scolded, I dislike the idling and complaing when there is activity bit ;)
[06:24] <hateball> IronY: In the case of kernel 4.6, it's not used in any supported version of Ubuntu
[06:24]  * reisio giggles
[06:24] <IronY> hateball: This is true, build it from source
[06:24] <tatertots> well my last ubuntu adventure was upgrading my no longer supported 13.10 workstation to 14.04 LTS...that was fun
[06:24] <IronY> built*
[06:24] <plop_its_ellie> how did the upgrae go:
[06:24] <plop_its_ellie> ?
[06:24] <pvsharov> plop_its_ellie: hi
[06:24] <IronY> i was figuring ubuntu 16 was probably missing something else, kernel modules are all there, everything else is running fine, minus that random 100% blkmapd spike
[06:24] <plop_its_ellie> hey pvsharov
[06:24] <tatertots> got it upgraded to 14.04 from 13.10 without issue
[06:25] <IronY> tatertots: stay there, do not learn systemd
[06:25] <plop_its_ellie> ah ok thats goo, i havent upgraded an ubuntu install in a long time
[06:25] <IronY> learn*
[06:25] <reisio> mmm, it's hard to imagine learning systemd will be time well spent
[06:25] <reisio> it's not going to last
[06:25] <tatertots> learned my lesson about using non LTS on my workstation
[06:25] <plop_its_ellie> IronY, its always good to know more stuff imo
[06:26] <reisio> plop_its_ellie: only given an infinite amount of memory
[06:26] <reisio> which most people haven't :p
[06:26] <azizLIGHT> how do i tell if a programs running in what wine version
[06:26] <wuseman> tatertots: how come ?
[06:26] <IronY> plop_its_ellie: agreed, but I did the dumb thing of having to learn it in production
[06:26] <plop_its_ellie> ReScO, the brain does have aninfinite amount of memory
[06:26] <reisio> azizLIGHT: rephrase?
[06:26] <hateball> !appdb | azizLIGHT
[06:26] <lyze> azizLIGHT, testing or wine hq db
[06:26] <azizLIGHT> what version of wine is running a particular program?
[06:26] <plop_its_ellie> its just that a lot of people live in a bubble and dont like learning new things
[06:26] <reisio> plop_its_ellie: humans are more than brains, alas
[06:26] <IronY> question: in this day in age, why even run wine, why not just run a vm?
[06:27] <azizLIGHT> if i have many versions of wine, which one is running the program im running
[06:27] <plop_its_ellie> IronY, more convineient and less overhead
[06:27] <tatertots> I'll stay on 14.04 LTS as long as i can....don't want to break my vmware environment  by using an unsupported host os
[06:27] <plop_its_ellie> lots of stuff works fine in wine
[06:27] <reisio> azizLIGHT: it's unlikely you have more than one wine version; wine --version
[06:27] <reisio> azizLIGHT: presumably crossover's primary executable would also have --version
[06:27] <tatertots> been there ..done that lol
[06:27] <hateball> azizLIGHT: If you need to juggle Wine versions, consider using PlayOnLinux
[06:27] <plop_its_ellie> tatertots, 16.04 is pretty buggy
[06:27] <azizLIGHT> reisio: this is fine on command line. but what about a launched program
[06:28] <plop_its_ellie> stay there until ate least ~1-2 months after 16.04.1
[06:28] <azizLIGHT> how can i identify if its wine staging or crossover's wine or teamviewer's own wine or something else running it
[06:28] <IronY> 16.10 LTS is coming soon is it not?
[06:28] <plop_its_ellie> yea playonlinux is good for managing different wine versions
[06:28] <azizLIGHT> while the program runs meanwhile
[06:28] <hateball> IronY: No, as 16.10 will not be LTS
[06:28] <pvsharov> plop_its_ellie:  on my old laptop 16.04 works fine with latests updates.
[06:28] <plop_its_ellie> IronY, 16.04 is an lts
[06:29] <tatertots> i was kinda sad when facebook acquired cononical
[06:29] <reisio> azizLIGHT: ps aux | grep -i wine
[06:29] <reisio> tatertots: yeah
[06:29] <plop_its_ellie> pvsharov, ive noticed some quirks with it
[06:29] <tatertots> can u tell i dislike facebook? lol
[06:29] <reisio> doesn't everyone
[06:30] <IronY> my bad
[06:30] <pvsharov> plop_its_ellie: have you standart Ubuntu or another distro ?
[06:30] <plop_its_ellie> pvsharov, ubuntu mate
[06:30] <IronY> wait
[06:30] <EriC^^> wait, what?
[06:31] <EriC^^> microsoft bought canonical and is shutting down ubuntu?
[06:31] <IronY> facebook bought cannonical?!
[06:31] <IronY> lol
[06:31] <EriC^^> http://fossbytes.com/microsoft-buys-canonical-kills-ubuntu-linux-forever/
[06:31] <plop_its_ellie> the main thing that was bothering me was that the second drive in the machine stopped showing in the file browser after it was decrypted
[06:31] <somsip> EriC^^: check the date on that one
[06:31] <wuseman> Mark <3 http://gfx.bloggar.aftonbladet-cdn.se/wp-content/blogs.dir/428/files/2016/06/https-blueprint-api-production.s3.amazonaws.com-uploads-card-image-123374-zucksecurity1.jpg - Take a closer look on his microphone, and his webcam
[06:31] <plop_its_ellie> had to mount it manually
[06:31] <wuseman> He is paranoid like me ;p
[06:31] <IronY> I am excited to see just how bad bash on windows is going to be
[06:31] <EriC^^> somsip: aha :D
[06:31] <tatertots> I hadn't heard that...last i heard facebook had bought canonical...they must have then sold it to M$
[06:32] <tatertots> interesting
[06:32] <somsip> tatertots: it's an april fool. Please dont get sucked in
[06:32] <plop_its_ellie> lol
[06:32] <IronY> I mean
[06:32] <IronY> if facebook wanted too
[06:32] <IronY> they have the means
[06:32] <plop_its_ellie> and on some laptops the network indicator would disapear after waking up from suspend
[06:32] <tatertots> Oh..u tricked me...darn u lol
[06:32] <plop_its_ellie> but still stay connected from the network
[06:32] <IronY> first change would be a valid facebook account to log in to your server
[06:32] <somsip> tatertots: I think you tricked yourself. Anyway...
[06:33] <tatertots> lol
[06:33] <plop_its_ellie> no not the network indicator, but the wifi networks
[06:33] <IronY> then the notifications would start, *IronY just ls'd his home directory -- Fubuntu --
[06:33] <tatertots> well i know the facebook acquisition of canonical is real fact...read that long ago
[06:33] <somsip> !fud | tatertots (please stop)
[06:33] <tatertots> and it made me sad
[06:34] <EriC^^> tatertots: april 1, 2014
[06:34] <plop_its_ellie> and using it on my machine at home, the splash screen freezes if you use the nvidia driver with full disk encryption, a workaround is replacing splash with text in the grub settings
[06:35] <azizLIGHT> this is messed up man. i have put rocket league on my launcher as a favorite now. bye bye free time
[06:35] <tatertots> lol
[06:36] <tatertots> so anybody played with samba 4 much yet?
[06:36] <tatertots> i'm 1/2 tempted to play with it
[06:43] <tatertots> guess i'll make some coffee and tweak grub on my laptop
[06:43] <tatertots> u guys twisted my arm
[06:43] <reisio> coffee?
[06:43] <reisio> wtf time is it for you? :p
[06:44] <tatertots> it's almost 2am...is it too early for coffee?
[06:44] <reisio> hrmmm
[06:45] <reisio> I don't really recall; I guess I used to drink caffeine between midnight and 6, too, in the past :P
[06:45] <reisio> ninite
[06:49] <RaiseYourKappa>  Hey
[06:50] <RaiseYourKappa> Ubunto Freunde :)
[06:52] <greenalgae> good evening room
[06:52] <greenalgae> can apt-get output me a list of installed packages?
[06:53] <Ben64> dpkg -l
[06:53] <greenalgae> tyvm
[06:56] <frib> how can I enable source code in apt from command line?
[06:56] <barkinet> hi
[06:57] <hateball> frib: Could you rephrase that? What are you trying to do?
[06:58] <wuseman> You wanna build things from frib?
[06:59] <hateball> frib: if you just want to download sources for a package, use "apt-get source <packagename>"
[06:59] <frib> hateball, i'm trying to use apt build-dep but it's telling me to add URIs to sources list
[07:01] <hateball> frib: Is this using official repos? By default the deb-src lines should be uncommented. Otherwise edit /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure they are
[07:02] <barkinet>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-27-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 2 x AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual-Core QL-64 (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.10GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.9GiB, 43.6% free ** Disk: Total: 290.4GiB, 42.4% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV710/M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4530/4570/545v] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI ** Ethernet: 645
[07:02] <barkinet> NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe ** Uptime: 49m 0s **
[07:02] <frib> hateball, they are commented
[07:02] <frib> hateball, i should uncomment all of them?
[07:03] <hateball> frib: the ones related to the packages you need at any rate. There's no harm in doing it
[07:04] <hateball> frib: and of course apt-get update afterwards
[07:04] <frib> of course
[07:07] <frib> hateball, how can I get the 32-bit versions of all those packages?
[07:08] <d0n0x> someone got Laptop Asus G552 and successed with Unbuntu Full drivers working?
[07:08] <hateball> frib: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[07:08] <hateball> frib: then apt-whatever packagename:i386
[07:08] <hateball> frib: be careful not to mess up your system by mixing archs
[07:09] <frib> hateball, well I need to compile wine for 32-bit windows applications but the source code seems to default to the 64-bit version only
[07:09] <frib> i don't think i have much of a choice
[07:10] <frib> hateball, also i want to install ALL of the build-dep packages with i386, not one at a time
[07:10] <barkinet> barki@ninja-network:~$ sudo apt-get update
[07:10] <barkinet> sudo: unable to resolve host ninja-network
[07:10] <barkinet> [sudo] password for barki:
[07:10] <barkinet> Ign:1 cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140417) trusty InRelease
[07:10] <barkinet> Ign:2 cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140417) trusty Release
[07:10] <barkinet> Ign:3 cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140417) trusty/main amd64 Packages
[07:11] <barkinet> Ign:16 cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140417) trusty/restricted DEP-11 64x64 Icons
[07:11] <barkinet> Ign:3 cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140417) trusty/main amd64 Packages
[07:11] <barkinet> Ign:4 cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140417) trusty/main i386 Packages
[07:11] <barkinet> Ign:5 cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140417) trusty/main all Packages
[07:11] <barkinet> Ign:6 cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140417) trusty/main Translation-en_US
[07:12] <hateball> frib: build-dep wine:i386 should work, no?
[07:12] <frib> hateball, it doesn't seem to look for the relative i386 packages
[07:12] <frib> says nothing to install
[07:14] <boriseto> Can some1 help me get the default fonts in Ubuntu, for example, in Firefox some sites are shown like this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15703389/Ubuntu/Screenshot%20from%202016-06-23%2008-47-29.png instead of like this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15703389/Ubuntu/Screenshot%20from%202016-06-22%2010-56-16.png
[07:15] <flyinprogrammer> so i have startx at the bottom of my .bashrc ... and now my x11 conf is broken with a package upgrade... how can i login as my user, but quit the x11 session and get to a terminal ?
[07:16] <YankDownUnder> flyinprogrammer, Edit the .bashrc, comment out the line...?
[07:16] <Ben64> flyinprogrammer: you should not be using startx ever
[07:17] <YankDownUnder> Using "startx" in a situation where a machine has a particular purpose is NOT a bad thing...
[07:18] <flyinprogrammer> figured out tty3 lets me login and doesn't startx
[07:19] <tatertots> i finished tweak'n grub before my coffee was even done brewing...now to find something else ubuntu related to tweak
[07:21] <barkinet> apt-cdrom
[07:21] <barkinet> apt 1.2.12 (amd64)
[07:21] <barkinet> Usage: apt-cdrom [options] command
[07:21] <barkinet> apt-cdrom is used to add CDROM's, USB flashdrives and other removable
[07:21] <barkinet> media types as package sources to APT. The mount point and device
[07:21] <barkinet> information is taken from apt.conf(5), udev(7) and fstab(5).
[07:22] <Flannel> barkinet: Please ask a question next time instead of just pasting something.  We usually don't need to see your output, and you'll actually get the help you're looking for.  Thanks.
[07:22] <YankDownUnder> tatertots, ...vm memory management? A proper tweak of the ldconfig? Cleaning out the /tmp and /var?
[07:22] <bogdan> Hi! Could someone advice me how to 'bisect' kernel in Ubuntu ? I'm affeted by 1593621 bug which is in incomplete status. I'd like to provide all required information to confirm the bug but find no instructions how to do this.
[07:28] <tatertots> u having some memory related issues with a vm?
[07:28] <Flannel> bogdan: bisect is basically "version A works, version B doesn't" with the goal of A and B being a single patch apart (so you know the problem is in that patch).  Here's a good rundown of it, and also some help doing it in a semi-automated fashion: http://lwn.net/Articles/317154/  (you're going to be drinking from a firehose, so if this is unappealing, you may just wish to report the bug without the offending patch identified)
[07:33] <YankDownUnder> tatertots, Not I, trust me, not I...was just making a suggestion since you were on the "tweak"...
[07:33] <Schwarzbaer_> Hi. Having set up an sshd, how can I check what its key's ECDSA fingerprint is, so I can establish a connection's authenticity?
[07:34] <tatertots> oh lol
[07:35] <tatertots> I was thinking about playing with samba 4..just don't have any need for it yet, to justify messing around with it
[07:35] <tatertots> looks awesome on paper
[07:36] <rory> Schwarzbaer_: ssh-keygen -l -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key.pub
[07:36] <YankDownUnder> tatertots, I used Samba4 for exactly 30 minutes (testing). Then promptly removed it. Works great in a "work" environment...stable...fast...
[07:36] <Schwarzbaer_> Thanks, rory
[07:37] <rory> Schwarzbaer_: more here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10060530/what-command-do-i-use-to-see-what-the-ecdsa-key-fingerprint-of-my-server-is
[07:39] <tatertots> can't wait until i get some extra $ so i can buy hardware
[07:40] <tatertots> one of my workstations died a few months back and i need to replace it with something, when i get the $ of course
[07:42] <Guest11225> hi
[07:43] <tatertots> hi
[07:43] <akik> tatertots: samba is great for sharing your files to linux and windows machines
[07:43] <robotti^> samba is awesome
[07:44] <tatertots> yeah samba version 4 is tempting ...i may be able to talk my friend into centrally managing his network, then i'd get to mess with it
[07:44] <tatertots> i don't really have a need for it in my environment
[07:45] <akik> also kodi knows how to talk to a smb server
[07:45] <greenalgae> i got a question having just installted mysql by apt-get install mysql-server
[07:45] <lyze> !ask | greenalgae
[07:46] <greenalgae> thank you
[07:47] <greenalgae> sudo mysql gives ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password:NO)
[07:47] <greenalgae> !patience
[07:47] <rrs> c
[07:48] <ubuntu__> ok i just cat /proc/fb and got this info 0 inteldrmfb which pretty much means /dev/fb0 file is controlled by inteldrmfb but when i do an lsmod or cat /proc/kallsyms | grep "inteldrmfb" i get nothing where the heck is the inteldrmfb driver or code located totally confused ?
[07:48] <tatertots> well there's another user account for database admin stuff that's different that your system admin stuff aka root
[07:48] <greenalgae> im just going to follow another guide
[07:48] <Guest11225> greenalgae, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21944936/error-1045-28000-access-denied-for-user-rootlocalhost-using-password-y
[07:49] <greenalgae> thanks guest
[07:50] <defjam> good morning
[07:50] <rrs> jj
[07:50] <tatertots> good morning
[07:50] <defjam> yesterday I nuked ircnet
[07:50] <defjam> I feel guilty
[07:50] <defjam> :(
[07:50] <tatertots> shame on u
[07:51] <tatertots> lol
[07:51] <defjam> but well...
[07:51] <akik> greenalgae: there's a script which you normally run after mysql installation to secure the database
[07:51] <defjam> if they cant protect, its useless
[07:52] <defjam> google Debora irc perl bot
[07:52] <defjam> should be listed some day
[07:52] <akik> greenalgae: mysql_secure_installation
[07:53] <somsip> !ot | defjam
[07:53] <tatertots> my laptop just rebooted..there must have been some system updates installed
[07:54] <greenalgae> these sad, sad question threads, presuming we're using GUI :(
[07:55] <rrs> O
[07:56] <akik> greenalgae: what do you mean? they give instructions that are used in the shell
[07:57] <greenalgae> ive just read several guides along thru my process telling me to sudo gedit
[07:58] <hicoleri> how do I enable ipv6 support?
[07:58] <somsip> hicoleri: it usually is by default
[07:58] <tatertots> use any text editor instead of "gedit"..."vi" is built into most distro's
[07:58] <greenalgae> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5 did the trick
[07:58] <akik> greenalgae: the stackoverflow page doesn't mention gedit
[07:59] <hicoleri> somsip:i cant seem to conncet to any ircs using ipv6 (saying host unreachable)
[07:59] <tatertots> some say vi is not for the novice but i find it to be a great text editor
[07:59] <Ben64> hicoleri: your isp, modem, and router all need to support it
[07:59] <greenalgae> now my terminal isnt returning my prompt..... trying !patience
[07:59] <somsip> hicoleri: what irc are you trying to connect to and does your ISP support ipv6?
[08:00] <greenalgae> yeah i know how serious vi misuse can be. im being pretty careful
[08:00] <hicoleri> somsip:THe connection information window shows that I do have an ipv6 address, so I think yes.
[08:00] <Ben64> hicoleri: what does it say
[08:00] <somsip> hicoleri: then I'll leave you with Ben64 as I turn ipv6 off and dont have a clue :)
[08:01] <Ben64> somsip: don't turn off ipv6!!
[08:01] <somsip> Ben64: go on then - why?
[08:01] <Ben64> it's the future
[08:01] <Ben64> it's like running a 32bit os on a 64bit cpu
[08:01] <somsip> Ben64: not where I live. It's the faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar future
[08:01] <greenalgae> ben64: dont leave them hanging!
[08:02] <somsip> Ben64: I'll probably get to enable it around 18.04LTS ;)
[08:02] <hicoleri> Ben64: It shows my ipv6 address.
[08:02] <greenalgae> if terminal doesnt return my prompt, and i close client and reconnect, am I gonna fuck my host?
[08:02] <tatertots> make sure the IPv6 address you are looking at isn't your "link local address"
[08:02] <Ben64> hicoleri: which is...
[08:03] <hicoleri> Ben64: Do I have to tell you? Wait ill show a screengrab
[08:03] <boriseto> It's a bit general but made me wonder, why does 16.04 takes almost triple the ram of 14.04? Any specific functionalities? Maybe the snaps?
[08:04] <tatertots> hmmm did u make the text edits that you needed in vi and save the changes and successfully exit from VI?
[08:04] <Snowie> hi all. I have been having some issues installing/updating software with timeouts. It seems to be archive.ubuntu.net with ipv6. Have since discovered my isp doesn't support it which explains to me why it doesnt get past the first hop, however, i thought this would be automatically tunneled. Any advice or reading appreciate. I'm reluctant just to force ipv4 for apt, but if there is no alternative then fine,
[08:04] <Snowie> and ps, that does resolve the timeout issue.
[08:04] <tatertots> i may have missed some of your info...i should probably scroll up and catch up to where u are lol
[08:05] <greenalgae> tatertots: i was running sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5
[08:05] <Ben64> Snowie: if your isp doesn't give you an ipv6, then that's not the problem
[08:06] <hicoleri> Ben64:https://s31.postimg.org/hhtdhsrtn/Screenshot_2016_06_23_13_33_37.png
[08:06] <tatertots> greenalgae: ah i see, i'm with ya now lol
[08:06] <Snowie> Ben64: ok, cheers. yeah just trying to solve it. been bugging me. the address is 2001:67c:1360:8001::17 and traceroutes fail at the first hop, so router? My local machine? could it be dns or...
[08:07] <Ben64> hicoleri: why did you block out the only part i care about
[08:07] <hicoleri> ..
[08:07] <tatertots> did u eventually get your cursor back? (may have been processing still) or still no cursor?
[08:07] <Ben64> Snowie: well thats weird, you shouldn't be getting the ipv6 address if your isp doesn't give them out
[08:08] <Ben64> Snowie: wait thats ubuntu's ipv6 address
[08:08] <Snowie> my router does not receive an ipv6 address, no, but all the machines on my lan here do.
[08:08] <hicoleri> Ben64:well I think its my local address so its okay: fe80::1a67:b0ff:fe58:6870/64
[08:08] <Snowie> Ben64: yes. runing apt update it stalls waiting for the first server with that address.
[08:08] <Ben64> hicoleri: wouldn't matter if it was your public address, anyway that's not a real ipv6 address, so you don't have ipv6
[08:09] <hicoleri> okay
[08:09] <Ben64> Snowie: ok but do you have an address
[08:09] <Ben64> Snowie: pastebin the output of "route -6"
[08:09] <Snowie> Ben64: by me, this machine, yes, has both ipv4 and ipv6 addresses
[08:09] <Snowie> ben
[08:10] <Snowie> Ben64: ok, sec
[08:10] <Ben64> Snowie: does your ipv6 address also start with fe80:
[08:11] <hicoleri> Ben64: So do I ask my ISP about this?
[08:12] <dEn> ¡
[08:12] <Snowie> Ben64: nope 2001:8003 etc
[08:12] <Ben64> hicoleri: if you like, they'll probably ignore you until they feel like implementing ipv6
[08:12] <Snowie> Ben64: not a reserved or special ipv6 address as far as i can tell.
[08:12] <greenalgae> is there a terminal command which shows whats going on the same as windows task manager? like is this daemon caught up or something?
[08:13] <Ben64> atop ?
[08:13] <Snowie> Ben64: my default route is fe80, but i think that is correct on the lan side.
[08:13] <Ben64> so you're not going to pastebin it then
[08:14] <tatertots> are you trying to use IPv6 arbitrarily or do u actually have a requirement for IPv6?
[08:14] <Snowie> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17735967/
[08:15] <Snowie> Ben64: sorry for the delay, was going to isntall pastebinit, but... thats exactly the delay i'm trying to fix.
[08:15] <tatertots> if it's arbitrary don't bother your ISP
[08:15] <Ben64> so you've got ipv6
[08:15] <Ben64> something might be messed up at the isp, modem, or router
[08:15] <Snowie> Ben64: between myself and the router, yes, but not from the router forward.
[08:15] <Ben64> yes from your router forward
[08:16] <Ben64> the ipv6 address didn't get pulled out of the air
[08:17] <greenalgae> hey how can i change my server's name? localhost is not doing it for me
[08:17] <Snowie> Ben64: from my router interface http://paste.ubuntu.com/17736014/
[08:17] <greenalgae> might as well call it remotehost
[08:17] <Snowie> Ben64: and many posts for my isp not supporting ipv6
[08:17] <somsip> greenalgae: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9540/how-do-i-change-the-computer-name
[08:17] <Ben64> Snowie: yet you have an ipv6 from your isp
[08:18] <tatertots>  it's your "/ect/host" file
[08:18] <Ben64> Snowie: you might want to go through the router configuration and either turn off ipv6, or fix the settings so it'll actually work
[08:18] <tatertots> "hosts" excuse me
[08:18] <tatertots> plural
[08:18] <tatertots> can be /etc/hostname also but most likely "ect/host"
[08:19] <Snowie> Ben64: yeah, im seeing my confusion, the IPv6 address for each machine comes from the ISP, not the router like it would in a 10.x.x.x ipv4 subnet. is that right?
[08:19] <tatertots> darn forgot the "s" again...
[08:19] <tatertots> "/etc/hosts"
[08:19] <somsip> tatertots: so...you had that coffee then? Slowly...
[08:20] <Ben64> Snowie: since there are so many ipv6 addresses available, NAT is no longer necessary, each device behind your router can have it's own address. your router seems to be giving out bogus routes so it's not working though
[08:20] <tatertots> yeah drinking my coffee now :)
[08:21] <tatertots> i want a new router
[08:21] <tatertots> but i'm poor
[08:22] <tatertots> lol
[08:22] <tatertots> I want a 802.11ac router that support ddwrt
[08:22] <Snowie> Ben64: it explains the complaints i have been seeing about my isp too. you can even set ipv6 dns addresses and get dns results, but if you try to ship any traffic elsewhere, you get bupkus. it's just this one machine so i may stick to a guide I saw on forcing ipv4 for apt. solves it for now
[08:22] <Snowie> Ben64: THANKYOU :)
[08:22] <tatertots> with gigabit LAN and WAN ports
[08:22] <greenalgae> tatertots: i just want a cup of coffee ~_~
[08:22] <tatertots> that would be sweet
[08:22] <Ben64> Snowie: my isp is handling ipv6 horribly right now too
[08:24] <tatertots> I'd share my coffee with ya..but i forgot how to make ASCII coffee in chat room lol
[08:24] <horanisic> Hi all
[08:24] <horanisic> looks like I broke my sources.list
[08:24] <horanisic> how can I get it again
[08:24] <horanisic> and fix it, if it's on server
[08:24] <Ben64> how did you break it
[08:24] <horanisic> and I have access to comand line only
[08:24] <tatertots> ouch...killed ur sources.list?....did u make a backup prior to making any changes to it?
[08:24] <tatertots> i hope u did
[08:25] <horanisic> tatertots: I did not
[08:25] <horanisic> and did a rm on it
[08:25] <tatertots> if not it's not the end of the world
[08:25] <Ben64> horanisic: gl https://debgen.simplylinux.ch/
[08:25] <horanisic> tatertots: okay, so how do I fix it?
[08:26] <Ben64> whoops, that was the debian one, use this https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[08:26] <tatertots> what are you running horanisic?......"cat /etc/*-release"
[08:27] <horanisic> it's "Debian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)"
[08:27] <Ben64> not ubuntu?
[08:27] <niko> :10
[08:28] <greenalgae> #ubuntu is just the best most helpful group
[08:28] <Ben64> horanisic: use the first link i gave and don't use this channel for debian support anymore
[08:28] <Ben64> greenalgae: for ubuntu only
[08:28] <horanisic> Ben64: hm, ty
[08:29] <tatertots> you'll have to recreate ur sources.list
[08:29] <horanisic> Ben64: how do I find the county
[08:32] <tatertots> i'm on my 2nd cup of coffee
[08:32] <tatertots> i probably shouldn't have a 3rd
[08:32] <tatertots> I'm already kinda amp'd
[08:32] <greenalgae> how about a question more general than linux distribution?
[08:33] <greenalgae> regarding user permissions/chmod
[08:33] <somsip> tatertots: we can tell. It would be more considerate if you chatted slightly less
[08:33] <greenalgae> im just unfamiliar with the ettiquit
[08:34] <somsip> greenalgae: you can ask, but you might get referred elsewhere
[08:35] <greenalgae> ive got vsftp daemon running and i can connect with my user account and upload to my /home folder. what do i need to do in order to upload files to my web root?
[08:35] <somsip> greenalgae: use scp.
[08:35] <Ben64> ditch ftp and use scp/sftp
[08:36] <tatertots> it runs in a chroot jail...i love fsvtp
[08:36] <tatertots> sorry vsftp
[08:36] <horanisic> Ben64: when doing sudo aptget update I get 404
[08:37] <horanisic> not found for quite a few fetches
[08:37] <Ben64> horanisic: please use #debian for debian support
[08:37] <tatertots> you'll need to make changes to your vsftp config file to allow regular system users access
[08:38] <horanisic> ok
[08:38] <tatertots> otherwise by default systems users can't log in to ftp
[08:39] <tatertots> for security reasons of course
[08:40] <Village> Hello, how i can check tls version at shell?
[08:40] <greenalgae> i can log in and upload files as my user acct, but in order to upload to the other directory do i need to change my user group?
[08:40] <greenalgae> i am looking up SCP as an alternative
[08:40] <lapion> Hello
[08:41] <lapion> I am having problems connecting with wireless networks..
[08:41] <tatertots> is it a parent or child directory that you want to upload to ?
[08:41] <Village> lapion, client problems?
[08:41] <tatertots> in relation to /home/greenalgae
[08:42] <somsip> greenalgae: normally you would add yourself to www-data, make webroot chogrp www-data, and make webroot chmod g+s. for a dev server. Production should be tighter
[08:42] <greenalgae> its /var/www/html so i guess parent
[08:42] <tatertots> if it's off of "/" it'll be a lil different
[08:42] <lapion> Village, well I now see that any connection is impossible..
[08:42] <somsip> greenalgae: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9133024/www-data-permissions
[08:43] <Village> And from telephone, to wifi router? So it's not ubuntu question
[08:43] <lapion> Yes after upgrade to 16.04 the system cannot connect to any form of networking.
[08:43] <Village> Understand, i don't know about it, sorry
[08:44] <lapion> I have to pass logs over on usb sticks.
[08:44] <lapion> it's the dhcp4 client that appear to be the culprit..
[08:45] <greenalgae> man chgrp
[08:45] <tatertots> so ur not getting a ip addy from dhcp at all?...can you ping 127.0.0.1 and get replies?
[08:45] <greenalgae> sorry
[08:47] <lapion> tatertots, I found this problem while trying to connect to the library's access point. Now I am at home I found out cannot connect to any network net even ethernet
[08:47] <R3D> hey guys, what's up
[08:48] <R3D> anyone on here using ubuntu server edition?
[08:48] <R3D> i'm about to install it on this all ass dell.
[08:48] <tatertots> hey what's up R3D
[08:49] <R3D> not much man
[08:49] <R3D> I got myself a Dell Optiplex
[08:49] <somsip> R3D: probably plenty of people. What's your real question?
[08:49] <R3D> and i htink it's 32 bit...
[08:49] <R3D> only has 1 gb of ram...
[08:49] <lapion> well tatertots it appears to be a user-rights question.. seeing as sudo dhclient does work
[08:49] <tatertots> lapion does your wired nic have link/acctivity lights blinking when the cable is connected to the switch?
[08:49] <R3D> i'm planning on  putting ubuntu server edition on it, because I wanna setup a webserver and ssh server for myself and the house.
[08:50] <lapion> well tatertots it appears to be a user-rights question.. seeing as sudo dhclient does work
[08:50] <somsip> R3D: so what's the question?
[08:50] <R3D> Do you think it'll run well? And i continuously have a hard time, not successful once, setting up an ssh server
[08:50] <tatertots> ah sweet lapion ...sounds like you get a addy when you run "dhclient" manually.  Is that a correct assumption
[08:50] <emper0r> hi, if i got an ubuntu-server 15.04 with all my stuff inside custom-services and develope work on apache2. runing everything i want.... how can i convert that server ready in a ISO image to instal from a CD, and when finish instal take the same result,.. now i'm using a basic server install and execute a big script to prepare ending in the final result but i really want to avoid tat with a custom cd with
[08:50] <Village> R3D, hello, i want ask help to know how i can check tls version on shell, can you know?
[08:50] <emper0r> all process did it.!.. how can i do that?... some url to read a guide ?
[08:50] <greenalgae> i remember the time i compiled openbsd on that old sparcclassis my uncle gave me. what a jerk
[08:51] <R3D> Well, the real question that i'll ultimately get to is if you us ssh servers and if you could answer a few questsions for me??
[08:51] <somsip> R3D: cli only can run on very, very low spec machines.
[08:51] <R3D> cli?
[08:51] <lapion> tatertots, yes
[08:51] <somsip> Village: please dont just ask people. Ask the channel and wait for help
[08:51] <Village> Ok, sorry
[08:51] <somsip> R3D: no GUI. Command line only
[08:52] <R3D> AHH, nice!!
[08:52] <somsip> Village: what version of ubuntu?
[08:52] <Village> 14.04
[08:52] <R3D> That's how I thought it would be.  CLI is particularly what i was hoping for.
[08:52] <somsip> R3D: will you use wifi or wired connection?
[08:52] <JunkHunk> hello I have a toshiba intel(R) pentium(R) M processor 1.80Ghz and 1024 mb RAM  it is running lubuntu 12.04 quite well but support time is about to end...so when I tried to upgrade it tells me it is a non pae system and cannot be upgraded the regular way...
[08:53] <somsip> !info libgnutls-dev trusty | Village (maybe this tells you)
[08:53] <R3D> Well, do you know a lot about SSH servers and setting them up? I haven't had any success WHATSOEVER with 'em.  I've hosted an ssh server on my windows machine, using freesshd, and tried to connect to it using putty, but I've failed miserably...
[08:53] <Village> somsip, let me check it
[08:53] <JunkHunk> I think I need to download a non pae iso and install from that could anybody point me out the download link and install instructions?
[08:53] <somsip> R3D: you install the server, then run a client on another machine. Adding key-based login is slightly more complicated
[08:54] <lapion> JunkHunk, there is a package out there to install that tricks the system into thinking the system is pae capable.. I had a P-M1 system that had the pae but not the bit set on the processor
[08:54] <R3D> mkay
[08:54] <somsip> JunkHunk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[08:54] <lapion> JunkHunk, can you give me the result of "cat /proc/cpuinfo" ?
[08:55] <JunkHunk> lapion sure give me a sec
[08:55] <R3D> do i need to copy and paste the client's public rsa key info into the the "authorized_keys" file in the ssh directory of the server-side?
[08:55] <tatertots> lapion does manually requesting a ip from the dhcp server get you connected with wired AND WLAN interfaces?
[08:55] <somsip> R3D: literally "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" then on the client "ssh user@server".
[08:56] <R3D> mkay. now, i read that the user account, when using client machine, must be a real account otn the server machine?
[08:56] <lapion> tatertots, have not tried wifi but wired worked the instance I did sudo dhclient
[08:56] <Village> somsip, o i don't get it i need that version be 1.1 or 1.2 it's possible on 14.04 ubuntu?
[08:56] <Village> ok*, sorry, for flood
[08:56] <somsip> R3D: yes - you connect to a user account on the server
[08:57] <jimbow> are aa degrees valid everywhere?
[08:57] <lapion> JunkHunk, I need the model name of the cpu
[08:58] <R3D> mkay.  Now, assuming i'm able to setup my ssh server, what else can you do with it, aside from using it as like your own personal cloud storage? Can't you add info into firefox and route all your traffic through your ssh server? or use your ssh server with mIRC to encrypt your messages and chats?
[08:58] <somsip> Village: oh - you want to know what version of the protocol. Try "openssl ciphers -v | grep TLS"
[08:58] <JunkHunk> lapion I will need some more time... I am installing xchat on that granpa to easily copy paste the output
[08:58] <somsip> R3D: that's outside the scope of this channel. Maybe #ubuntu-offtopic is better to talk about possibilities. This is just for the 'how to'
[08:59] <R3D> right on
[08:59] <R3D> i thank you for your time
[08:59] <R3D> cheers mate
[08:59] <somsip> k
[08:59] <tatertots> looks like R3D is trying to have some ssh tunneling fun lol :P
[09:00] <Village> somsip, thanks, it's shows TLS 1.2, TLS 1.2, so it's i think 1.2 and is, thanks
[09:00] <somsip> Village: I came to the same conclusion
[09:00] <lapion> JunkHunk, I do not need the whole out put of the cat but only the line that stats with "model name"
[09:01] <Village> somsip, i have bads with eggdrop youtube tcl script, i can paste bin my explained problems, you can look and maybe can explaine what's what's solutions?
[09:02] <somsip> Village: better to address that to the channel. Not something that means much to me
[09:03] <JunkHunk> lapion: http://pastebin.com/GUuyjG3n
[09:03] <JunkHunk> just in case
[09:03] <tatertots> sometimes it's easier to assist when ppl tell u what they are trying to do or accomplish, sometimes getting this info out of them can be a up hill battle
[09:03] <Village> somsip, it's explained problems
[09:04] <tatertots> sometimes they just tell u and make it so much easier to assist
[09:04] <Village> it's - http://pastebin.com/hU02Gt6u
[09:04] <jimbow> how do you change the email address for a freenode account?
[09:04] <hateball> jimbow: ask in #freenode
[09:04] <jimbow> i can't
[09:04] <somsip> tatertots: The more I'm on here, the easier (I think) it is to spot users who are going to be a struggle to help. I have a low patience threshhold.
[09:04] <jimbow> i'm muted
[09:04] <hateball> jimbow: Wait for them to voice you
[09:04] <tatertots> lol
[09:04] <jimbow> i wrote a script that ghosts users if they have set their password to password =D
[09:05] <jimbow> apparently everyone's password is password lol
[09:05] <tatertots> i call it "nick burns" syndrome lol
[09:05] <tatertots> i used to do tech support @ dell so i know the feeling somsip
[09:05] <somsip> Village: I'd reiterate the advice you got. Speak to the author of the library
[09:05] <Village> Ok, i waitb him ansver
[09:06] <jimbow> tatertots: did you suck mike's dick?
[09:06] <greenalgae> is "chmod -R 775 /var/www/html" a risky move?
[09:06] <tatertots> no but i got to see him walk through once
[09:06] <somsip> greenalgae: no need to make non-scripts executable. Wrap it in a "find" to only change dirs
[09:06] <JunkHunk> Lubuntu and Xubuntu offered a PAE and a non-PAE release up to and including 12.04, but from 12.10 only the PAE releases are maintained.
[09:06] <JunkHunk> does that mean I cannot upgrade?
[09:06] <jimbow> michael is a raging homo
[09:06] <somsip> jimbow: and this is why you get muted...
[09:07] <jimbow> somsip: michael dell is a faggot lol
[09:07] <jimbow> everyone knows  this
[09:07] <tatertots> he just signed my paychecks..as long as they didn't bounce he was cool in my book
[09:07] <somsip> greenalgae: eg (dont use this per se) "find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 sudo chmod 770; find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sudo chmod 660"
[09:07] <hateball> !language | jimbow
[09:07] <jimbow> i am speaking in a calm polite english manner
[09:08] <jimbow> quit being gay and grow a pair of balls you sensitive bitch
[09:08] <greenalgae> jimbow: thats a bot you're insulting
[09:08] <jimbow> that bot was created by a faggot apparently
[09:08] <somsip> !040 | jimbow
[09:08] <somsip> jimbow: so, stop
[09:09] <jimbow> somsip: grow a pair
[09:09] <jimbow> and grow up
[09:09] <jimbow> this is the real world
[09:09] <somsip> jimbow: no, this is a support channel. Show respect
[09:09] <tatertots> come on guys simmer down
[09:09] <tatertots> we just want to help ppl with ubuntu here
[09:09] <YankDownUnder> Apparently some folks have not had their daily intake of "ass pills".
[09:09] <greenalgae> jimbow: take it elsewhere
[09:09] <jimbow> somsip: i'm showing a lot of respect you're being gay
[09:09] <jimbow> greenalgae: you too
[09:10] <somsip> !ops | jimbow (abusive language continues despite warnings)
[09:10] <greenalgae> showing a lot of respect
[09:10] <V3rdant> You're not showing respect for gay people
[09:10] <jimbow> wow you're so sensitive
[09:10] <YankDownUnder> Myrtti, Thanks.
[09:10] <tatertots> thanks
[09:10] <tatertots> :P
[09:10] <jimbow> V3rdant: being gay is a shameful choice
[09:11] <lapion> JunkHunk, according to the intel ARK database it has PAE  however it doesn't have the flag correctly set.. So you should be able to tweak.
[09:11] <greenalgae> somsip: at this point my /var/www/html is empty, shall i just chmod the directories i create 660 to get the same outcome?
[09:11] <lapion> I have to boot up my old P-M system to see what package that was..
[09:11] <JunkHunk> could I jump to the 16.04 instead of installing 14.04?
[09:11] <k1l> greenalgae: put your user to the www-data group
[09:12] <somsip> greenalgae: if you follow the link I gave before, it'll all work peachy
[09:12] <lapion> JunkHunk, better to junp the lowest hurdle first and then do a lts to lts upgrade
[09:12] <somsip> greenalgae: you write files, www-data can read them. www-data writes files, you can read them. All good
[09:13] <JunkHunk> lapion I am pretty happy with lubuntu 12.04 but if I need to install from dvd I would like to install the latest
[09:14] <JunkHunk> lapion anyway I don't know whether the 14.04 will install at all
[09:14] <tatertots> I need to find some things to do with my ubuntu box..it just runs doing it's thing w/o issue
[09:14] <guest-0MNstL> #atari
[09:14] <lapion> Well JunkHunk it will upgrade to 14.04 but most likely not install it.
[09:14] <tatertots> I should break it..so i can fix it again lol
[09:14] <guest-0MNstL> re
[09:15] <defjam> !cigar
[09:15] <defjam> !beer
[09:16] <tatertots> my production ubuntu box is still humming along on 12.04 LTS
[09:16] <lapion> JunkHunk, I have 16.04 instaled on a P-M ULV 1.2Ghz with 2 GB ram
[09:16] <JunkHunk> lapion you mean I need to wait to 21 th july automatic upgrade?
[09:17] <JunkHunk> lapion and try to fix the obsolete package issues?
[09:17] <lapion> tatertots, My desktop is running 11.04 with classic gnome
[09:17] <tatertots> One thing i like about using old laptops for ubuntu is, if the power goes out it can run on battery until the power comes back
[09:17] <JunkHunk> the apt-get is not working
[09:17] <Leno> hi, does ubuntu support power big-endian ?
[09:17] <greenalgae> somsip: you are the man/lady!
[09:18] <tatertots> kinda like a lil built in UPS....UPS= uninterruptible power supply
[09:18] <lapion> JunkHunk, you need to set the repositories
[09:18] <JunkHunk> yeh there was some advice about that in the warning
[09:18] <tatertots> lapion u know what they say..."if it ain't broke.........don't fix it " :P
[09:19] <lapion> tatertots, if it ain't broke ??????
[09:19] <lapion> every ubuntu os that has no security updates is bound to be broken sooner or later due to ssl ssh security issues
[09:20] <JunkHunk> yep
[09:20] <JunkHunk> it says the system package is broken
[09:20] <JunkHunk> when trying to update
[09:20] <somsip> greenalgae: does it matter for the advice you need?
[09:20] <somsip> greenalgae: oh - gotcha :) np...
[09:21] <greenalgae> somsip: high-five emoji
[09:21] <JunkHunk> lapion it says my solution is remove third party repos and use apt-get -f  install
[09:21] <JunkHunk> I already did that
[09:21] <JunkHunk> with no avail
[09:21] <EriC^> JunkHunk, try removing them with ppa-purge
[09:21] <lapion> JunkHunk, change the repositories to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:21] <somsip> greenalgae: so you got in www-data group and can now copy files and the permissions are good for apache?
[09:21] <barq> When I run a command without sudo it works. When I run with sudo I get command not found. How is this possible?
[09:22] <somsip> barq: sudo path is different
[09:22] <tatertots> what command are you running barq?
[09:22] <barq> adb
[09:22] <lapion> JunkHunk, third party repositories usually disappear from the internet when official support disappears
[09:22] <tatertots> ah ur messing with android devices eh?
[09:23] <barq> yes
[09:23] <somsip> barq: you probable have /opt/android-sdk in your path in ~/.bash_something
[09:23] <barq> I have the path in .profile
[09:23] <tatertots> or is this another adb u speak of?....nvm u just answered my question
[09:23] <JunkHunk> lapion you mean I need to add that repo you post under other software tab?
[09:23] <somsip> barq: so just use the full path with sudo if that's what you need.
[09:23] <barq> How can I configure it to find the path?
[09:24] <tareq_> hello all
[09:24] <greenalgae> somsip: i followed the stackoverflow link and was able to upload to the desired folder using my SCP client, and it is serving me the page. now i am just trying to configure the mysql-server-5.5 package to work and allow me to use phpmyadmin
[09:24] <lapion> JunkHunk, no you hace to replace the urls of official repositories to that one.
[09:24] <somsip> barq: but why do you need sudo with adb?
[09:24] <somsip> greenalgae: ok - shout if you get stuck. godo progress though
[09:24] <barq> When I do adb devices I see my device but get no permissions
[09:24] <somsip> *good
[09:24] <k1l> barq: what ubuntu is it exactly?
[09:24] <greenalgae> somsip: yes, thank you very much
[09:25] <barq> And I read that starting adb server with sudo should help
[09:25] <barq> 15.10
[09:25] <JunkHunk> lapion and where is that? I cannot find it in software sources
[09:26] <somsip> barq: scroll down to the better answers here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14460656/android-debug-bridge-adb-device-no-permissions
[09:26] <somsip> barq: it seems more likely to be a udev rule that is not allowing what you need
[09:27] <k1l> barq: how did you install adb?
[09:27] <barq> It worked before
[09:27] <barq> dunno why it stopped working suddenly
[09:27] <lapion> JunkHunk, in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:29] <barq> k1l: Can't remember it's been on the machine for a very long time.
[09:29] <barq> several years
[09:29] <somsip> barq: new device?
[09:29] <hmir> Hi guys. I'm running xubuntu on a laptop. What i need ot know is: Is there a way to have two instances of xfce4-terminal with different font sizes set?
[09:30] <tatertots> can't wait to build a new ubuntu box....if any of u guys wanna donate $ to the cause i wouldn't be offended lol
[09:31] <somsip> hmir: the man page suggests one config with no way to run with a specified, different config
[09:31] <JunkHunk> lapion okay I managed to open that file...and know I guess I need to add a line like this: deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu right?
[09:31] <greenalgae> tatertots: i got this baby hosting plan for less than $50 for a year, i just dont have any use for it other than tinkering!
[09:32] <JunkHunk> lapion do I need to comment any aswell?
[09:32] <greenalgae> tatertors: im going to put my resume on the homepage
[09:33] <greenalgae> .....if i can get this thing running before i graduate in december
[09:33] <tatertots> that's a good deal @ $50 a yr...good idea to have ur resume on there
[09:33] <somsip> tatertots: nano servers on AWS come out about that, and you get free usage for a while. Offtopic so no more from me on this one
[09:34] <lapion> JunkHunk, you need edit most lines and change the urls except for those that belong to a ppa
[09:34] <hmir> somsip: Can you recommend a small footprint emulator I can install and set the font size as a I see fit??
[09:35] <tatertots> true...i haven't messed with amazon's deal yet...since it's off topic though we'll just keep moving lol
[09:35] <somsip> hmir: no - but there a loads so there should be one that allows specfic configs
[09:35] <tatertots> why did u guys let me have coffee?
[09:36] <JunkHunk> lapion any template?
[09:36] <barq> somsip: Same device.
[09:36] <somsip> barq: fair enough. Maybe I'm off track with the idea of a dodgy udev rule then
[09:36] <lapion> JunkHunk, change repositories from: http://archive.ubuntu.com and http://security.ubuntu.com to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:37] <lapion> Oops: JunkHunk, change repositories from: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:39] <JunkHunk> lapion I think I found one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release
[09:39] <JunkHunk> thanks
[09:39] <k1l> !eolupgrade | JunkHunk
[09:39] <lapion> JunkHunk, yeah well there is a special page for simply continued usage of older dists but that one has the gist..
[09:40] <lapion> of it
[09:40] <tatertots> I had to do a EOL upgrade on my ol 13.10 workstation...took it to 14.04 lts...last time i use a non LTS version on my workstations :P
[09:40] <tatertots> live and learn i guess
[09:43] <greenalgae> after installing mysql-server-5.5 and running dpkg-reconfigure, i'm getting an error "unable to set password for MySQL "root" user"
[09:44] <tatertots> u can set or change the password for the database admin account/user manually if needed
[09:44] <greenalgae> if i run apt-get remove <package> do i need to restart or flush or anything?
[09:45] <somsip> greenalgae: three options here. Try the bottom one first, then the purge method. The other way is faffy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[09:45] <lapion> tatertots, 14.04 is also an EOL system soon..
[09:45] <Ben64> if soon is 2019
[09:45] <sveinse> I'm running gnome shell on 16.04, and I notice that _usr_bin_atop keep crashing when I log in. What is atop used for in a desktop and why could it be crashing?
[09:46] <tatertots> what's the support lifecycle of LTS now?...still 5 years? or did canonical change it
[09:46] <somsip> tatertots: 5
[09:46] <Ben64> 5 yeah, was upped from 3
[09:46] <Guest87969> Whenever I click on the play button in vlc after pausing, I hear a crackling sound for small duration. I also hear at the startup. Any suggestions?(Kubuntu 16.04)
[09:46] <tatertots> they better not change it..
[09:47] <Guest87969> Can't find a similar problem online anywhere.
[09:47] <JunkHunk> lapion the system has unmet dependencies and I cannot install the update manager core adviced in that page
[09:47] <tatertots> don't u hate being in linux dependency hell
[09:47] <tatertots> trying to dig ur way out can be a ton of work
[09:48] <steven> where can I find a list of output meaning of aptitude? like i means installed, n v virtual and what not
[09:48] <steven> but like a full list of it
[09:49] <lapion> JunkHunk, use aptitude to fix the dependencies
[09:49] <LostSoul> Hi
[09:49] <LostSoul> apt-get hangs on install / remove any tip?
[09:50] <LostSoul> I've got only Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
[09:50] <tatertots> I was in dependency hell trying to keep a up to date version of HPLIP on one of my ubuntu boxes
[09:51] <lapion> Ben64, thanks I misread the list of releases
[09:51] <tatertots> that was fun
[09:52] <JunkHunk> lapion aptitude package not available
[09:52] <lapion> btw Ben64 is that ben short for benton?
[09:53] <lapion> apt-get install aptitude
[09:53] <JunkHunk> it says it is not available
[09:55] <Guest87969> Output of vlc file playing from terminal output http://paste.ubuntu.com/17738362/
[09:55] <Guest87969> any workarounds folks?
[09:55] <Ben64> use mpv or mplayer2?
[09:56] <tatertots> are you trying to "capture" this vlc file playing from terminal?
[09:56] <TikityTik2> Why is systemd hanging at reboot?
[09:56] <tatertots> I like mplayer
[09:56] <tatertots> it's the cats meow
[09:57] <Guest87969> tatertots, Yes, I hear crackling burst of sound on play and pause.
[09:57] <Ben64> try mpv or mplayer2?
[09:58] <tatertots> I would also suggest mplayer..i have done capture of mpeg2 transport streams coming in from a atsc tuner with mplayer in ubuntu
[09:58] <LostSoul> Ay idea guys?
[09:58] <tatertots> i could probably assist in capturing from memory
[09:58] <tatertots> with mplayer of course
[09:58] <LostSoul> My apt-hangs like that: Fetched 70.9 MB in 9s (7,582 kB/s)
[09:58] <Ben64> LostSoul: pastebin the full output
[09:58] <LostSoul> Sure
[09:59] <LostSoul> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17737006/
[09:59] <tatertots> I think i captured some stuff with vlc player also but i remember finding mplayer better for that for some reasons or another
[09:59] <LostSoul> IT happens even with apt-get remove
[09:59] <Ben64> not seeing a problem there
[09:59] <LostSoul> It hangs and goodbye
[10:00] <tatertots> with mplayer i just did something like mplayer dvb:// >
[10:00] <somsip> LostSoul: did you try an apt-get clean, or even an autoremove to see if there's some artifact causing a problem?
[10:00] <Guest87969> Ben64, sudo apt-get install mplayer2?
[10:00] <Ben64> Guest87969: yep
[10:01] <tatertots> I'll have to go check my media extender ubuntu box to get u the exact syntax though...it's in the other room so no biggie
[10:01] <Ben64> tatertots: not sure who you're talking to, but doesn't really seem relevant
[10:01] <Guest87969> tatertots, I don't want to capture I want to remove the crackling I hear while play/pause
[10:01] <tatertots> also it sounds like ur source is from a file instead of a dvb/atsc tuner card but that also is no biggie
[10:01] <Guest87969> tatertots, mention names!
[10:02] <somsip> !who | tatertots
[10:02] <tatertots> is this crackling present when u play the source/original file/recording?
[10:02] <Ben64> thats the problem!
[10:02] <Guest87969> tatertots, yes.
[10:02] <LostSoul> somsip: clean - yes, autoremove - nope
[10:02] <tatertots> sorry i forget to mention names guys
[10:02] <LostSoul> I can try autoremove but as I say it hangs
[10:03] <LostSoul> So autoremove probably won't go
[10:03] <somsip> LostSoul: just an easy one to try but I did expect much
[10:03] <tatertots> i'm guessing obtaining a crackle free recording is out of the question
[10:03] <LostSoul> somsip: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 110 not upgraded.
[10:03] <Ben64> tatertots: you're misunderstanding the problem
[10:03] <lapion> JunkHunk, make sure you these repositories active (no # in front of them ) in your /etc/apt/sources.list : http://pastebin.com/HwVaPfxK
[10:03] <somsip> LostSoul: two easy search results http://askubuntu.com/questions/774918/apt-get-is-stuck-at-fetched-xxkb-in-xxsec http://askubuntu.com/questions/775049/16-04-apt-update-never-ends
[10:04] <tatertots> so ur looking at using audio editing software to mask or filter out the "distortion"
[10:04] <LostSoul> somsip: I tried 1st one
[10:04] <ret2libc> hello, in fedora i can use fpaste to automatically paste to paste.fedoraproject.org. is there a similar program for ubuntu to automatically paste to paste.ubuntu.com?
[10:04] <cracklingsound> Ben64, is mplayer2 a gui?
[10:04] <Ben64> cracklingsound: no
[10:04] <tatertots> this is foreign territory...not much of a audio editor
[10:04] <Ben64> tatertots: stahp. this isn't relevant at all
[10:04] <somsip> LostSoul: is it an appstreamcli problem? Check top
[10:04] <cracklingsound> Ben64, any gui suggestions. I was using terminal to debug.
[10:05] <Ben64> cracklingsound: just try it!
[10:05] <Ben64> 10 minutes on step 1 of diagnosis :|
[10:05] <greenalgae> ben64: lol
[10:06] <tatertots> if i misunderstood your problem just try mplayer and see if the problem goes away
[10:06] <LostSoul> somsip: I've checked with top/ps aux and I don't have appstreamcli running
[10:06] <tatertots> or whatever was suggested as a next step for u
[10:06] <somsip> LostSoul: unexpected. When did apt-get last work? What version of ubuntu?
[10:06] <cracklingsound> Ben64, seems to not exist for mplayer.
[10:07] <Ben64> problem solved, ditch vlc
[10:07] <cracklingsound> Ben64, haha.. need a gui though
[10:07] <Ben64> why
[10:08] <tatertots> mplayer has a "front end"
[10:08] <tatertots> aka gui
[10:08] <Ben64> slows it down, and it's pointless
[10:08] <TikityTik2> I have skipped using a display manager and am using jwm as a wm. This laptop is really bad but it cannot play youtube videos properly in firefox. the video slows down while audio isn't synced
[10:08] <cracklingsound> tatertots, mpv?
[10:08] <LostSoul> somsip: 14.04
[10:08] <Ben64> what could you possibly need to see on a video player that isn't the video?
[10:08] <LostSoul> I use it like 2-3 weeks ago
[10:08] <LostSoul> Maybe 4
[10:08] <lapion> TikityTik2, try playing the video fullscreen
[10:09] <TikityTik2> lapion: same story
[10:09] <ducasse> ret2libc: just install pastebinit.
[10:09] <JunkHunk> lapion I have no natty repositories but precise...
[10:09] <TikityTik2> I also installed just lubuntu-minimal
[10:10] <TikityTik2> so i'm not sure if i'm missing a package that makes youtube videos play normally
[10:10] <lapion> okay yeah I mean make sure you have the ubuntu partner repositories active..
[10:10] <cracklingsound> Ben64, the sound also occurs at startup, any suggestions for that.:)
[10:10] <JunkHunk> so those you post but for precise I guess
[10:10] <ret2libc> ducasse: thanks! is there any way to default it to another pastebin service?
[10:10] <Ben64> cracklingsound: on mplayer2? pastebin the output of it
[10:11] <lapion> JunkHunk, uncomment all repositories that are relative to precise by removing the # in front
[10:11] <ducasse> ret2libc: there's an option, just set up an alias.
[10:11] <ret2libc> ducasse: thanks
[10:12] <JunkHunk> lapion they were already
[10:13] <JunkHunk> lapion I am trying to get this broken package fixed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2073770&page=2 in order to get apt-get working and install aptitude
[10:13] <lapion> JunkHunk, did you do : "apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[10:13] <cracklingsound> Ben64, http://paste.ubuntu.com/17739018/
[10:13] <ripper> ...
[10:14] <Ben64> cracklingsound: try "mplayer -ao alsa yourfile.mp4"
[10:16] <cracklingsound> Ben64, http://paste.ubuntu.com/17739095/, please have a look
[10:16] <JunkHunk> lapion I get many impossible to obtain security packages from those repos...but I guess that might be normal as you said I am using a server for old releases now...but the problem comes when I try to install update manager core as suggested here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release
[10:17] <Ben64> cracklingsound: well how does it sound that way
[10:18] <lapion> JunkHunk, you are using 12.04 ?
[10:18] <JunkHunk> unmet dependencies  from the broken system package libc6-dev
[10:18] <JunkHunk> yep
[10:18] <JunkHunk> precise
[10:18] <JunkHunk> lubuntu
[10:19] <lapion> then you will have to reedit the sources file and return everything the way it was.
[10:19] <TikityTik2> my lubuntu-minimal hangs on "systemd-shutdown[1]: rebooting"
[10:19] <lapion> 12.04 is still supported
[10:19] <JunkHunk> lol
[10:19] <JunkHunk> I know but about to end
[10:20] <JunkHunk> thats why I was trying to upgrade
[10:20] <JunkHunk> but upgrade seems to be IM
[10:20] <hateball> 12.04 is supported 5 years on server, it was only 3 years on the desktop
[10:20] <JunkHunk> desktop here
[10:20] <hateball> If I recall correctly
[10:20] <hateball> !precise
[10:21] <Ben64> 12.04 was the start of 5 years for both
[10:21] <JunkHunk> but 12.04 was the last non-pae distro
[10:21] <lapion> JunkHunk, 12.04 is supported until 2019  however you need to update  to 12.04.5
[10:21] <JunkHunk> oh
[10:21] <JunkHunk> cool
[10:21] <Ben64> 2017
[10:21] <lapion> ops 2017
[10:21] <JunkHunk> dist-upgrade then?
[10:22] <lapion> apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:22] <lapion> JunkHunk, try the fake-pae ppa
[10:22] <JunkHunk> okay after lsb_release -a
[10:23] <JunkHunk> I get ubuntu 12.04.5 lts
[10:23] <lapion> JunkHunk, don't forget apt-get update first
[10:23] <JunkHunk> what about the changes we made to the sources list now?
[10:23] <JunkHunk> I mean the old-release thing
[10:23] <lapion> JunkHunk, you have to undo them
[10:23] <JunkHunk> :-P
[10:23] <JunkHunk> how????
[10:24] <greenalgae> maybe this hosting package is unable to run mysql
[10:24] <JunkHunk> I used sed
[10:24] <lapion> JunkHunk, check if there are still source.list.save available
[10:24] <JunkHunk> I guess I only need to modify that
[10:24] <JunkHunk> oh
[10:25] <lapion> next time make a copy to $i.old first
[10:25] <somsip> greenalgae: is it horribly underpowered, very small disk, or minute RAM? Otherwise it should be fine
[10:25] <lapion> copy original to source.list.old
[10:28] <ubuntu-user123> Hey friends!
[10:28] <ubuntu-user123> LVM NVIDIA WHO SOLVED BROBLEM?
[10:29] <JunkHunk> lapion fixed it reverting the command I used before... so support for ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS ends 2019 right?
[10:29] <JunkHunk> I am happy now then
[10:30] <greenalgae> somsip: i think a half GB of ram and a coupel GB of hard disk drive. its a virtual server but its just an installation, not compiling or anything.
[10:30] <lapion> !eolupgrade | JunkHunk
[10:32] <lapion> JunkHunk, April 2017
[10:33] <JunkHunk> yep https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases :-(
[10:33] <JunkHunk> grrrr!!!
[10:33] <lapion> JunkHunk, try the fake-pae ppa
[10:34] <lapion> JunkHunk, because the p-m you are talking has pae but not the correct flag set so the kernel doe not recognise it
[10:34] <ubuntu-user123> Hey?
[10:34] <ubuntu-user123> Who use LVM?
[10:35] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: Ask the real question instead of taking a poll
[10:35] <ubuntu-user123> i asked fuck
[10:35] <hateball> !details | ubuntu-user123
[10:35] <ubuntu-user123> LVM + NVIDI A= BUG
[10:35] <ubuntu-user123> LVM + NVIDIA = BUG
[10:35] <ubuntu-user123> No run ubuntu
[10:36] <ubuntu-user123> give help plz
[10:36] <Ben64> ubuntu-user123: relax
[10:36] <ubuntu-user123> my bad
[10:36] <ubuntu-user123> 3 weeks
[10:36] <ubuntu-user123> help please
[10:36] <Ben64> 1st. calm down. 2nd, explain the issue as fully as possible, use paste.ubuntu.com if it's more than one line
[10:36] <JunkHunk> lapion for 14.04.1 LTS seems to be no upgrade but boot install
[10:37] <JunkHunk> lapion https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/AdvancedMethods#Pentium_M_and_Celeron_M
[10:38] <ubuntu-user123> Help please
[10:38] <JunkHunk> lapion so I guess I need a lubuntu 14.04 LTS 32bits iso now...
[10:38] <ubuntu-user123> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2328616
[10:38] <lapion> JunkHunk,
[10:39] <lapion> JunkHunk, you should be able to update  to 12.04.5 without a problem
[10:39] <skokkk> hi. aptitude cant upgrade.. how do I fix this?
[10:39] <ubuntu-user123> HELP PLEASE!!!!!
[10:39] <hateball> Stop your nonsense
[10:40] <Village> ubuntu-user123, whats wrong?
[10:40] <ubuntu-user123> LVM no work with the nvidi adriver
[10:40] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: If you want to try the latest nvidia driver, you can do "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-367 && sudo reboot"
[10:40] <Ben64> ubuntu-user123: that's not true at all
[10:40] <ubuntu-user123> I need solve my problem
[10:41] <JunkHunk> lapion I am already at 12.04.5 !!! I need to get the next lts before the year to come
[10:41] <lapion> JunkHunk, do-release-upgrade
[10:41] <JunkHunk> that is not working
[10:41] <ubuntu-user123> Its grub problem?
[10:41] <lapion> JunkHunk, sudo do-release-upgrade but first install fake-pae ppa repository
[10:42] <ubuntu-user123> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2328616
[10:42] <Ben64> ubuntu-user123: no, it might be an encryption problem, or it might be an nvidia problem, depending on what password box you're referring to
[10:42] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, to install ubuntu on most systems with nvidia graphics you need to boot with nomodeset
[10:42] <ubuntu-user123> nomodeset no help
[10:43] <hateball> Ben64: the driver in 16.04 is 361 and it has no kms support, but 367 should have so it should be possible to use with encrypted LVM as wlel
[10:43] <hateball> but... good luck explaining that
[10:43] <ubuntu-user123> its old prooblem very old
[10:43] <lapion> hateball, some nvidia cards do not work with 361
[10:43] <JunkHunk> lapion If I open update manager and click update to 14.04 it says PAE not enabled
[10:44] <hateball> lapion: A 780, as this person describes they have, works with 361 and up
[10:44] <lapion> JunkHunk, first install fake-pae ppa repository
[10:45] <JunkHunk> okay
[10:46] <ubuntu-user123> so will 167 100% work?
[10:46] <lapion> JunkHunk, then install fake pae package ( read the fake-pae repo page)
[10:46] <ubuntu-user123> sudo apt update    Why apt and no apt-get?
[10:47] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, what exactly is the problem what have you done and at what point during your process does the problem show up
[10:47] <ubuntu-user123> sudo apt install nvidia-367    and install nvidia-lastest?
[10:48] <archer121> hi
[10:48] <ubuntu-user123> Install Nvidia and reboot
[10:48] <ubuntu-user123> lapion, Install Nvidia and reboot
[10:48] <ubuntu-user123> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2328616
[10:50] <thekro> hi - this is pretty specific, so redirection to another channel would be welcomed. I've got an optimus card in my laptop, and want to use CUDA to enable GPU computation with theano.  However, installing CUDA has broken my graphical display - I've tried various things, and enountered blank screens, working login screen but failure to login, low resolution login screen, or successful GUI with optimus disabled.
[10:50] <thekro> ubuntu 14.04
[10:50] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, are you using an uefi system ?
[10:51] <ubuntu-user123> of cose
[10:51] <ubuntu-user123> laption, yes
[10:51] <thekro> also , theano is not using the gpu when i run test code on the terminal either
[10:51] <ubuntu-user123> disable this spam in chat plesae
[10:51] <archer121> hello everybody, I am trying to get the nvidia's own driver working. After a lot of breaking and fixing, I am currently at the lightdm login screen. When log in, I get a black screen and then I come back to the lightdm login screen (loop). Here is the debug information that gets logged in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm/log when I try to login. http://paste.ubuntu.com/17739922/
[10:51] <ubuntu-user123> enter exit and etc
[10:51] <JunkHunk> lapion same problem....though I only tried the update manager button might the do-release-upgrade work instead?
[10:52] <JunkHunk> lapion nope
[10:52] <JunkHunk> same error
[10:52] <JunkHunk> pae not enabled
[10:53] <hateball> archer121: It'd help knowing what you're been breaking and fixing. Have you used a manual install? Editing xorg.conf? etc etc
[10:53] <TikityTik2> I need help, my lubuntu is minimal and I'm having issues with shutdown and reboot. Everything seems to go fine and then it hangs on systemd-shutdown[1]: rebooting or shutting down. Can't access any tty and no input works, i have to manually turn it off by the power switch.
[10:53] <TikityTik2> it was working before, but now it does not
[10:54] <hateball> archer121: Also, what chipset are you using?
[10:54] <archer121> hateball: NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce 920M] (rev a1)
[10:55] <JunkHunk> lapion I did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:prof7bit/fake-pae and then apt-get update...and then sudo do-release-upgrade and the same pae not enabled problem
[10:55] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, to see kernel messages when you boot please edit grub and add nomodeset and remove quiet and splash
[10:56] <archer121> hateball: I did a fresh install, installed cuda with the .run file that came with it. No breaking and fixing.
[10:56] <lapion> JunkHunk, do not forget to install the packages delivered by fake-pae
 Ben64: the driver in 16.04 is 361 and it has no kms support, but 367 should have so it should be possible to use with encrypted LVM as wlel
[10:56] <lapion> JunkHunk, apt-get install fake-pae
[10:56] <JunkHunk> lol
[10:56] <JunkHunk> okay
[10:57] <ubuntu-user123> laption, you variant no work
[10:57] <ubuntu-user123> brb reboot
[10:58] <JunkHunk> okay going back to the broken system package now...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2073770&page=2 becuase I cannot use apt-get
[10:58] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, when you remove quiet and set nosplash and add nomodeset at least the system shows the error messages of the kernel so you can see what went wrong.
[10:58] <hateball> archer121: with a 9xx chipset I'd use the 367 driver from PPA, and then CUDA
[10:59] <hateball> Tho 361 *should* support 9xx I guess, but it might be a newer model still
[10:59] <jangs_> hello
[11:00] <archer121> hateball: I will do as you suggest and tell you how it does
[11:01] <JunkHunk> lapion libc6-dev depends libc6 (=2.15-0ubuntu10.13) but 2.15-0ubuntu10.15 is going to be installed
[11:03] <lapion> JunkHunk, when does that dependency appear ?
[11:03] <JunkHunk> when trying to install the pae thing..anyway I think I got the solution here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/488671/libc6-depends-libc-bin-2-15-0ubuntu10-but-2-15-0ubuntu10-5-is-installed
[11:04] <TikityTik2> My ubuntu won't shutdown properly, stays at systemd-shutdown[1]: Rebooting.
[11:05] <jangs_> try changing the run level you should be in 2 or 5
[11:05] <TikityTik2> jangs_: How?
[11:06] <TikityTik2> I'm getting to the point where I'm just gonna reinstall because it worked before.
[11:06] <jangs_> in the terminal type runlevel
[11:06] <TikityTik2> jangs_: and how would i change the runlevel?
[11:07] <hateball> TikityTik2: worked before *what*? It could be a kernel regression with regards to ACPI
[11:07] <TikityTik2> it was working fine before
[11:07] <TikityTik2> before i installed some packages
[11:07] <jangs_> telinit 5
[11:07] <hateball> TikityTik2: So check /var/log/apt/history* and tell what packages
[11:07] <hateball> !paste
[11:07] <TikityTik2> terminal runlevel shows 5
[11:07] <jangs_> ok
[11:08] <jangs_> telinit 0
[11:08] <TikityTik2> same thing happened
[11:08] <jangs_> as root
[11:08] <hateball> !sudo
[11:09] <TikityTik2> i'm thinking to reinstall with lxde just to avoid more headaches though
[11:09] <TikityTik2> as i'm already having troubles with slow youtube video playback
[11:10] <TikityTik2> jangs_: same thing
[11:10] <jangs_> same thing are you root/
[11:10] <ubuntu-user123> hateball, ???
[11:10] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: what
[11:10] <ubuntu-user123> hateball, its no work!
[11:11] <ubuntu-user123> hateball, no helped
[11:11] <hateball> That's too bad
[11:12] <ubuntu-user123> hateball, so what to do?
[11:12] <sad> hello
[11:12] <TikityTik2> jangs_: same thing with sudo/root
[11:13] <jangs_> ok somethings wrong
[11:13] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: I fear I am not equipped to help you. Calm down, and repeat your issue again and someone else might have an idea
[11:14] <lapion> hateball, all my nvidia problems got solved by using the kernel's EFI Stub Loader.
[11:14] <jangs_> try sudo shutdown h
[11:14] <ubuntu-user123> You said it have kms
[11:14] <hateball> lapion: good, perhaps you can help ubuntu-user123 then
[11:14] <jangs_> or sudo shutdown now
[11:15] <ubuntu-user123> hateball killed my Ubuntu and now "I fear I am not equipped to help you oh im sor"
[11:15] <ubuntu-user123> thx u!
[11:15] <TikityTik2> jangs_: same thing with sudo shutdown now
[11:16] <ubuntu-user123> np i can reinstall it
[11:16] <jangs_> kill the power supply
[11:16] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, try using information from the following pages: http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/
[11:16] <ubuntu-user123> laption
[11:17] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, especially http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/efistub.html
[11:17] <TikityTik2> jangs_: I did. I did everytime when it was stuck at systemd-shutdown[1]: shutting down, etc
[11:17] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, did you edit the options at boot or did you change them in the configuration of grub ?
[11:17] <YankDownUnder> TikityTik2, what if you just type: sudo runlevel 0
[11:17] <ubuntu-user123> laption, no
[11:18] <JunkHunk> lapion that radikal solution kind of worked...I needed to reinstall the package from synaptic though but now the system has the pae thing and it is upgrading ...I am happy
[11:19] <TikityTik2> YankDownUnder: too many arguments
[11:19] <lapion> JunkHunk, just make sure the package is not removed during or after the upgrade..
[11:19] <jangs_> try one more time sudo shutdown -h now
[11:19] <ubuntu-user123> laption, what to do in config?
[11:19] <JunkHunk> oh
[11:19] <JunkHunk> how?
[11:20] <JunkHunk> how do I prevent that?
[11:20] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, is the system booting ?
[11:20] <ubuntu-user123> i in livecd
[11:20] <TikityTik2> jangs_: same thing
[11:21] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, try the options of booting a kernel using the the kernels efi stub loader
[11:21] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/efistub.html
[11:21] <Ben64> lapion: that's such a complicated "solution"
[11:22] <ubuntu-user123> laption, what to do 1.2.3 ?
[11:22] <jangs_> how long have you been using that distro?
[11:22] <TikityTik2> jangs_: the past day.
[11:22] <ubuntu-user123> laption, I have windows and information on this hard drive
[11:22] <ubuntu-user123> no crash please
[11:23] <jangs_> did you verify the download?
[11:23] <TikityTik2> jangs_: It's lubuntu minimal that boots into tty1 and then startx into joe's window manager
[11:23] <TikityTik2> it was working in the window manager before. but after apt-get installing software-center, firefox, skype, alsa, it stopped working
[11:23] <lapion> Ben64, yes the page is outdated
[11:23] <jangs_> shasum 256?
[11:23] <TikityTik2> and also after using the additional drivers
[11:24] <lapion> Ben64, 16.04 comes with correctly configured kernel for the stub loader.
[11:24] <jangs_> ok it already sounds problematic
[11:24] <TikityTik2> jangs_: this laptop only has 512 ddr2 mb and single core 1.7 ghz
[11:24] <jangs_> why not choose an easier distro to use?
[11:24] <TikityTik2> s i'm trying to really make it fast
[11:24] <jangs_> ic
[11:25] <TikityTik2> jangs_: Because i need a distro that has skype on it
[11:25] <jangs_> lubuntu?
[11:25] <TikityTik2> i am using lubuntu
[11:25] <jangs_> porteous
[11:25] <jangs_> ok
[11:25] <TikityTik2> lubuntu-minimal, installed evertying from tty
[11:25] <jangs_> ok
[11:25] <TikityTik2> i'm thinking of reinstalling with lxde to avoid the headache though
[11:25] <jangs_> any other problems with the distro?
[11:25] <TikityTik2> but i'm worried of the resources being hogged
[11:26] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, install refind : http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/installing.html
[11:26] <TikityTik2> jangs_: except that it won't reboot now
[11:26] <jangs_> ubuntu mate is pretty low on resources
[11:26] <TikityTik2> jangs_: i installed with lubuntu-minimal and didn't pick an option for a desktop
[11:26] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, and then select the to boot the option that's related to kernel in stead of the one that's related to the grub.
[11:27] <TikityTik2> jangs_: never seen it when i was googling for a lightweight distro
[11:27] <jangs_> or Busen
[11:27] <jangs_> bunsen
[11:27] <jangs_> with openbox
[11:27] <lapion> xubuntu has been my choice for low-resource systems
[11:28] <ubuntu-user123> laption, Automatically install rEFInd to the ESP?
[11:28] <YankDownUnder> WindowMaker. Super low on resources.
[11:28] <TikityTik2> i need a distro that has skype 4.3
[11:29] <ikonia> ubuntu supports skype
[11:29] <jangs_> yes
[11:29] <ubuntu-user123> laption, â”‚ It is necessary to install rEFInd to the EFI System Partition (ESP) for   â”‚   â”‚ it to control the boot process.                                           â”‚   â”‚                                                                           â”‚   â”‚ Not installing the new rEFInd binary on the ESP may leave the system in   â”‚   â”‚ an unbootable state. Alternatives to automatically installing rEFInd      â”‚   â
[11:30] <TikityTik2> it really upsets me how easy it is to break linux
[11:30] <TikityTik2> and that i can't just revert to a backup point
[11:30] <jangs_> maybe reinstall lubuntu and check porteous if it supports skype and Bunsen I am not sure but its low on resources
[11:30] <Ben64> TikityTik2: you can, if you made a backup point
[11:30] <YankDownUnder> TikityTik2, https://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/ => doesn't matter what distro you have, really...or "window manager" - you can install it from standalone - you don't have to depend on "sources in the distro" for the install of Skype...
[11:31] <lapion> TikityTik2, with brfs you can.. or using the great tar
[11:31] <ubuntu-user123> laption, ???
[11:32] <TikityTik2> YankDownUnder: I tried using the dynamic skype download but it wouldn't work on tiny core. I was missing libraries and it wasn't provided by my distro
[11:32] <jangs_> any distro can be broken modifying and maintaining takes practise
[11:32] <ikonia> TikityTik2: tiny core is not ubuntu
[11:32] <TikityTik2> ubuntu mate says recommended ram is 2 gb
[11:33] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, see the chapter: Installing rEFInd Manually Using Linux
[11:33] <ikonia> TikityTik2: the whole point of tinycore is it's "tiny" so how can you expect it to have all the dependencies for a proptitary audo/video conferencing system
[11:33] <YankDownUnder> TikityTik2, You do know that you can "strip" stuff out of Ubuntu and make it as bare as you wish...still maintaining the libs required...but hey, it's a learning experience. I shall sleep. Enjoy the puzzle. Cheerio!
[11:33] <TikityTik2> and the minimal is 512 mb, which is what i have. I assume ubuntu mate is goign to run very slowly
[11:33] <jangs_> yep thats sounds right its not the solution for you
[11:34] <daumie1> hello...how can i get bang and olufsen drivers?
[11:34] <TikityTik2> YankDownUnder: I already had a bare stripped ubuntu by installing lubuntu-minimal, then the shutdown and reboot stopped working. And also youtube video playback was slow.
[11:34] <ikonia> TikityTik2: buy more ram - thats the bottom line
[11:34] <ikonia> TikityTik2: you want to do heavier things - you need more resources
[11:35] <Ben64> ram is cheap now, good time to upgrade
[11:35] <daumie> daumie: the proprietary ones do work
[11:35] <TikityTik2> ikonia: It's a bad laptop and i'm not willing to buy parts atm.
[11:35] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, your are using a non mac-system so you should only regard the UEFI-based pc options not the mac-options
[11:35] <ikonia> TikityTik2: then buy a new one
[11:35] <TikityTik2> not buying
[11:35] <ikonia> TikityTik2: then you're going to have to live with it's performance limitations
[11:35] <daumie> daumie1: **
[11:35] <jangs_> Kali Linux can run on 512 just putting it out there
[11:35] <ikonia> jangs_: no it can't
[11:35] <ikonia> jangs_: no more than any other distro
[11:35] <TikityTik2> youtube playback was fine in tiny core, but not in jwm lubuntu-minimal
[11:35] <ikonia> you start loading it up with resources like skype and it will eat resources
[11:35] <ubuntu-user123> laption, it can crash partitions and data?
[11:36] <TikityTik2> ikonia: even with skype off, playback was slow
[11:36] <ikonia> TikityTik2: basically this channel supports ubuntu, if you're not looking for help with ubuntu, this is the wrong channel
[11:36] <TikityTik2> well i'm wondering if lubuntu lxde is my best bet
[11:37] <TikityTik2> i assume my custom lubuntu was missing packages for proper youtube playback for not being laggy.
[11:37] <ikonia> TikityTik2: possibly video card configuration
[11:37] <TikityTik2> ikonia: what kind of configuration would affect it? I thought video card configuration is only resolution etc
[11:37] <Ben64> and pretty sure i saw you say you were using startx
[11:38] <ikonia> TikityTik2: no, there is the kernel module and xorg module configuration
[11:38] <ikonia> so not lubuntu then -
[11:38] <TikityTik2> Ben64: I am using startx
[11:38] <ikonia> I bet it's an ubuntu minimal install
[11:38] <ikonia> missing loads of dependencies
[11:38] <TikityTik2> ikonia: it is.
[11:38] <ikonia> there we go then
[11:38] <ikonia> TikityTik2: just install lubuntu normally
[11:38] <ikonia> stop using a minimal install
[11:39] <jangs_> agree
[11:39] <TikityTik2> ikonia: I installed lubuntu normally and it was ha
[11:39] <ikonia> it was what ?
[11:39] <TikityTik2> it was very slow and took 5 min to open firefox
[11:39] <TikityTik2> not sure w
[11:39] <ikonia> TikityTik2: so you need to look at the configuration there
[11:40] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, just use the refind-install refind is a bootloader and it installs a file in the EFI folder that allows you to select from most if not all installed osses on the system
[11:41] <TikityTik2> ikonia: I think i'll use the minimal install but pick to install the lxde desktop package
[11:41] <ikonia> TikityTik2: I think thats a very bad idea
[11:41] <ikonia> TikityTik2: as you are proving because things are not working fo ryou
[11:41] <TikityTik2> ikonia: why's that? it's a faster install for me too I think
[11:41] <ikonia> no it's not
[11:41] <lapion> one of the options of refind is that it detects efi-stub kernels and adds them to the "bootlist" so you can select them
[11:41] <ikonia> it's faster because it's missing things you need
[11:41] <ikonia> and you'll need to manually work out all the additional things you need
[11:41] <Ben64> lapion: what does that solve?
[11:42] <ubuntu-user123> laption, refind-install: command not found
[11:42] <ikonia> so you'll end up installing the other stuff anyway
[11:42] <ikonia> why make it hard on yourself
[11:42] <TikityTik2> ikonia: I'm thinking that installing x86_64 made it slow
[11:42] <lapion> Ben64, the refind then boot the kernel as a efi program that gives the kernel full-access to the system hardware
[11:42] <TikityTik2> could that be the case?
[11:42] <ikonia> why did you use 64bit on such a low spec machine
[11:42] <ikonia> it certainly won't help
[11:43] <TikityTik2> ikonia: because someone said my cpu supports 64 bit instruction
[11:43] <Ben64> lapion: makes no sense
[11:43] <ikonia> TikityTik2: it won't slow your machine down that much to be honest, there is an overhead but like %2 something like that
[11:43] <lapion> Ben64, the efi normally starts with the efifb and masks the actual graphical hardware.
[11:44] <TikityTik2> but if i use a regular lubuntu install, won't it make the laptop slower? It's only 512 ddr2 mb  single core 1.7 GH
[11:44] <ikonia> TikityTik2: no
[11:44] <ikonia> TikityTik2: no more than doing a minimal install then installing hte packages
[11:44] <ikonia> TikityTik2: bottom line is - your laptop is to slow
[11:44] <TikityTik2> ikonia: then which lubuntu install do you recommend
[11:45] <TikityTik2> ikonia: that's why trying to make it so it's fast enough to run skype or firefox
[11:45] <ikonia> I recommend lubuntu
[11:45] <TikityTik2> 16.04?
[11:45] <ikonia> TikityTik2: you just have to accept the limitation of your machine
[11:45] <ikonia> TikityTik2: 16.04 is the current lts release, so yes
[11:46] <TikityTik2> some people recommended me older versions implying they were faster
[11:46] <ikonia> they are wrong
[11:47] <ubuntu-user123> Any help please
[11:49] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, are you using another os on the system ?
[11:50] <ubuntu-user123> laption, yes
[11:51] <ubuntu-user123> Windows
[11:51] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, try installing refind from the other os
[11:52] <ubuntu-user123> laption, and grub for dos?
[11:52] <ubuntu-user123> https://sourceforge.net/projects/refind/
[11:53] <lapion> no need ubuntu-user123
[11:53] <TikityTik2> ikonia: lubuntu crashes when it tries to setup
[11:54] <TikityTik2> after i go through all the options like locale, time, erase whole disk
[11:55] <MWM> Hi, I am having trouble with random powerdowns.  I am confident the hadware is OK,but still checking
[11:55] <ikonia> TikityTik2: define crashes
[11:55] <ubuntu-user123> laption, and why grub2 So bad?
[11:55] <MWM> Ive checked apport and the crashlogs, but havent seen anything that stands out to me
[11:56] <lapion> grub2 does not allways work correct..
[11:56] <TikityTik2> ikonia: during the install, the installatin throws an error. but i think i got it working after retrying.
[11:56] <lapion> you could try grub2-efi ubuntu-user123
[11:56] <MWM> this issue sometimes happens within hours, but can be as much as a few days or a week in between instances
[11:56] <ubuntu-user123> laption, no
[11:56] <ikonia> I suspect the actually installer maybe using more ram than you have
[11:57] <TikityTik2> ikonia: I had that problem too with xubuntu
[11:57] <hateball> MWM: Are you confident the hardware is OK because you've actually tested it?
[11:57] <ikonia> TikityTik2: the installer can take up resources as it's displaying a full X11 setup, while running from ram, while also trying to process packages to a chroot to install
[11:58] <MWM> Ive replaced everything but the drives and the drives check out okay in smartmontools.  Im just not 100% about the power supply because I hvent taken a multimeter after it yet
[11:58] <TikityTik2> ikonia: which is why i wanted lubuntu-minimal
[11:58] <MWM> however it is presumed to be good as it is a replacement
[11:58] <TikityTik2> as lubuntu-minimal does it through a bios like menu
[11:58] <ikonia> TikityTik2: I get that, but you're still going to hit the run time problems
[12:00] <ubuntu-user123> Why Ubuntu use this old bootloader if it no always work?
[12:00] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, which one ?
[12:01] <ubuntu-user123> laption, grub
[12:01] <Dead_Office> lol
[12:02] <hateball> MWM: Have you checked your RAM? Could CPU/GPU be overheating?
[12:03] <MWM> RAM, cpu, gpu, and motherboard are all new as well.  Decent cooling on all.  Temps are well inside safe margins while monitoring with psensor.  Basically, I think so :)
[12:06] <_MyStartx_> install centos minimal, ubuntu is big and lazy
[12:07] <MWM> anyone have any advice on what exactly I should look for in the logs?  dmesg is empty and so is the apport log.  syslog and kern.log have alot of stuff and I dont know what I should look at for certain
[12:07] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, grub works on certain older systems..
[12:08] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, grub2 works on newer system
[12:08] <MWM> there arent any big warnings or anything that *looks* out of place though
[12:08] <ubuntu-user123> laption, LVM + NVIDIA = grub sucks
[12:10] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, it's an uefi problem
[12:10] <ubuntu-user123> laption, its grub problem
[12:11] <ubuntu-user123> laption, grub outdated
[12:11] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, every manufactur creates it's own uefi and they tend to try to make it windows compatible and never think about other oses
[12:12] <ubuntu-user123> laption, why grub no solve this problem?
[12:12] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, every day a new manuafacturer makes a new incompatible uefi verion
[12:13] <ubuntu-user123> laption, developers can update code
[12:13] <ubuntu-user123> ok
[12:13] <ubuntu-user123> laption, I can install Legacy
[12:13] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, so grub has to fix uefi bugs ?
[12:14] <ubuntu-user123> laption, why refind work and grub not?
[12:14] <lapion> most of the time grub2-efi should work
[12:14] <ubuntu-user123> laption, why Ubuntu not use it?
[12:14] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, too new hardware
[12:15] <ubuntu-user123> 2013
[12:15] <ubuntu-user123> not new
[12:15] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, try going to manufacturers site and see if they have newer firmware for the laptop
[12:15] <ubuntu-user123> laption, how to install grub2-efi?
[12:16] <ubuntu-user123> laption, I use desktop
[12:16] <sypher> ubuntu-user123: GRUB is written to a standard that many manufacturers choose to ignore. That's not the GRUB developers' problem to fix.
[12:16] <sypher> They write to the standard.
[12:16] <ubuntu-user123> ok
[12:17] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, same applies to desktop see if manufacturer has newer firmware for the mainboard
[12:17] <ubuntu-user123> But LVM work without Nvidia driver, Nvidia driver work without LVM and LVM + Nvidia driver = not work!
[12:18] <ubuntu-user123> laption, I use lastest BIOS
[12:18] <ubuntu-user123> 2016
[12:18] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, do you need encrypted lvm ?
[12:18] <ubuntu-user123> laption, yes
[12:19] <lapion> why not use nouveau ?
[12:20] <ubuntu-user123> laption, nouveau is slow
[12:20] <ubuntu-user123> laption, and have a bugs
[12:20] <ubuntu-user123> laption, why no work LVM encrypted + Nvidia driver?
[12:21] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, see #nvidia
[12:21] <ubuntu-user123> laption, its motherboard?
[12:22] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, no nvidia driver has problems with lvm not linux..
[12:23] <RossoNeroDentro> hello is it still safe to use Windws Xp from VirtualBox and Ubuntu as Host for the programs you need to emulate people?
[12:24] <lapion> RossoNeroDentro, try wine ?
[12:24] <RossoNeroDentro> what i need to run dosen't work on wine
[12:24] <RossoNeroDentro> wine is basically mostly useless so far for most programs
[12:25] <RossoNeroDentro> but i been told on virutal machine Xp is still safe is this true?
[12:25] <krabador> RossoNeroDentro, please ask to your friends?
[12:25] <krabador> :D
[12:25] <lapion> RossoNeroDentro, does the program need networking
[12:26] <RossoNeroDentro> yes it's Paltalk and ManyCam
[12:26] <krabador> *!
[12:26] <RossoNeroDentro> so one chat and one cam
[12:26] <RossoNeroDentro> my friends use it no problem with Ubuntu just as host and Xp Sp3 but i  want to be sure
[12:27] <RossoNeroDentro> plus im going install vpn on Xp forgott that also lapion  and use Opera as browser
[12:27] <lapion> your virtualbox system can become a distributor of malware without you knowing it.
[12:28] <krabador> lapion, but RossoNeroDentro's friends have all a configuration like that.
[12:28] <lapion> this problem is not related to linux
[12:28] <RossoNeroDentro> so what you advise lapion  to use W7 with slow updates i mean emulate that and turn off updates ?
[12:29] <RossoNeroDentro> or Emulate w10 with anti beacon and all privacy tweeks?
[12:29] <RossoNeroDentro> i got Xp here W7 Home Basic but updates are basically gone since microsoft is pushing W10 and also W10 wich you advise me to emulate lapion ?
[12:30] <lapion> RossoNeroDentro, installing a system in a virtual environment on top of linux does not make it as safe as linux or a linux problem
[12:30] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: do you still have the 367 driver installed? you need the kernel parameter "nvidia-drm.modeset=1" to enable kms. not sure if it helps, but it's something to try
[12:31] <ubuntu-user123> hateball, and how to do it?
[12:32] <ubuntu-user123> hateball, add to cfg?
[12:32] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: same way you use nomodeset, edit grub option
[12:32] <ubuntu-user123> ok
[12:32] <RossoNeroDentro> yes i understand what you mean lapion  , since Xp lacks of updates so the solution is either W7 with turned off updates as they take too long to install of W10 all tweaked up to stop the psying from microsoft wich you avise me to emulate between the 2 so i can the programs i need lapion ?
[12:32] <RossoNeroDentro> spying*
[12:33] <ubuntu-user123> hateball, quet splash need to remove?
[12:34] <lapion> RossoNeroDentro, no what I mean to say is that running a system on top of linux does not make it a ubuntu problem or issue
[12:34] <Li> I've tried #umake android android-studio which started fine then throw this error or warning
[12:34] <Li> (process:14792): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file '/home/ubuntu/.cache/dconf/user': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly.
[12:34] <ubuntu-user123> hateball,  quiet splash $vt_handoff
[12:34] <RossoNeroDentro> yes i know but i been told on security room that since Xp lacks of updates even on the virtualmachine could become host for hackers to ddos upload child porn or  malware as you say
[12:34] <Li> why not able to do such task while I've given the command as a root?
[12:34] <RossoNeroDentro> i mean easy target
[12:35] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: yes put it on that line, without the ""
[12:35] <RossoNeroDentro> mabye is best i emulate W10 since updates in w7 are basically gone for the most lapion  as i need to know wich of these 3 you advise me to emulate
[12:35] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: you can keep quiet splash, but it can be useful to remove to see more info
[12:35] <RossoNeroDentro> for the rest i know how to secure windows well :l from a virtual machine
[12:36] <eggggs> what about play on linux or crossover?
[12:36] <eggggs> i have windows office 2010 running like a champ
[12:37] <RossoNeroDentro> for now the psybot anti beacon seems doing amazing on W10 for those who still use it as Host or Emulated lapion  with other few tweeks it makes it super safe
[12:37] <RossoNeroDentro> spybot*
[12:38] <ubuntu-user123> hateball,  and  $vt_handoff ?
[12:38] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: yes keep that
[12:38] <RossoNeroDentro> once we got rid of telemetry and remote host and did disable other tracking and remote connect stuff in w10 we are pretty ok seems ill wait your advise lapion  on what to emulat then thanks
[12:38] <ubuntu-user123> hateball,  ok
[12:41] <RossoNeroDentro> are you still here lapion ?
[12:42] <ubuntu-user123> brb
[12:50] <ubuntu-user123> On nvidia channel said: need disable splashboot or screen idk and need use text boot
[12:53] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, so add: nomodeset nosplash and remove quiet
[12:54] <ubuntu-user123> lapion, and $vt_handoff?
[12:54] <lapion> leave that one
[12:54] <ubuntu-user123> lapian, and what is it?
[12:55] <lapion> make sure nouveau is blacklisted and nvidia is not
[12:55] <ubuntu-user123> lapian, and nvidia-drm.modeset=1 ?
[12:56] <ubuntu-user123> hateball, ?
[12:56] <daumie> "Talk is cheap, show me code" Linus Torvalds
[12:56] <lapion> if you add that one do not add nomodeset
[12:57] <ubuntu-user123> ro nosplash $vt_handoff nvidia-drm.modeset=1 	initrd	/initrd.img-4.4.0-24-generic
[12:57] <ubuntu-user123> lapian, and noquiet?
[12:57] <lapion> something like that
[12:57] <lapion> noquiet doesn't do anything..
[12:58] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, only quiet disables the kernel output
[12:58] <roshan> HI
[12:58] <tatertots> hi
[12:58] <boriseto> is there a history for ubuntu when it has been started/turned off? some timestamps?
[12:59] <roshan> Any one have idea for screen sharing from windows to ubuntu over skype ?
[12:59] <hateball> boriseto: "last"
[12:59] <ubuntu-user123> lapian, and blocklisting?
[12:59] <boriseto> hateball: ty.
[12:59] <roshan> skype screen sharing not working from ubuntu to windows ?
[13:00] <ubuntu-user123> lapian, I afraid it encrypted
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:00] <tatertots> hi blue
[13:01] <ubuntu-user123> lapian, ?
[13:01] <roshan> is there anu solution for skype screen sharing issue from ubuntu to windows ?
[13:01] <roshan> is there any solution for skype screen sharing issue from ubuntu to windows ?
[13:03] <tatertots> if you need to view the ubuntu desktop from the windows desktop there are many solutions...
[13:03] <ubuntu-user123> brb
[13:04] <roshan> tatertots, please guide for this
[13:04] <lapion> roshan, skype has not created a newer version of it's software for linux recently
[13:04] <roshan> lapion, okay. there any other solution for this ?
[13:05] <tatertots> teamviewer, rdp, vnc, just to name a few
[13:05] <roshan> tatertots, okay
[13:07] <CropsUp> Someone know how Can I fix on tty1-6 unusable when I have been used vmware workstation vms?
[13:09] <tatertots> cropsup...in context of using virtual machines....is ubuntu the "host OS" or the "guest OS"? I understand tty 1-6 unusable but is this on the host or the guest?
[13:10] <CropsUp> tatertots, I'm sorry, this is my fault. Host-os has bugged
[13:10] <ubuntu-user123> Ok I inti LVM Ubuntu
[13:12] <tatertots> have they ever been usable or was there a hardware/software change that resulted in them being "unusable"?
[13:13] <ubuntu-user123> But I not see nothing in boot, there just brown screen. Need wait 2 seconds and then enter code. Also in reboot I see top brown panel
[13:13] <ubuntu-user123> But wiyhout icons
[13:17] <ubuntu-user123> Any help please
[13:18] <Powerless> is there a way for me to let my search bar on ubuntu 16.04 full screen?
[13:18] <vekz> You mean the Unity window, Powerless?
[13:19] <Powerless> vekz, yes, the one i use to search my apps and all
[13:19] <vekz> Alright. There should be a Maximize button upper left corner when you open the unity launcher
[13:19] <tatertots> sorry ubuntu-user123 i came in right in the middle of someone helping u ...i just remember seeing u guys blacklisting open nv driver so u could use the proprietary nvidia driver...
[13:20] <tatertots> ur helper will be back soon
[13:20] <Powerless> vekz, found it. thanks man
[13:20] <vekz> Np :)
[13:20] <ubuntu-user123> tatertots, yes i use it
[13:22] <binarydepth> I'm having trouble updating ClamAV virus database
[13:22] <ubuntu-user123> Ben64, ?
[13:24] <ubuntu-user123> What Ubuntu not have a LVM text boot?
[13:25] <eggggs> heya guys ,  im on  xubuntu 14.04 64 bit,  when i first start pithos  its plays immediately , but is blank for a couple of minutes.
[13:26] <ubuntu-user123> bye
[13:27] <tatertots> take care ubuntu-user123
[13:28] <damien> spotify is working again ppl
[13:29] <tatertots> I think i'll listen to some music today..all this music app talk reminds me i haven't enjoyed any tunes in a while
[13:30] <damien> what a good idea!
[13:33] <binarydepth> LOL do you get withdrawal symptoms from music ?
[13:33] <damien> in fact tatertots it's a great idea
[13:33] <binarydepth> I do
[13:33] <damien> why didn't anyone think of that before?
[13:34] <tatertots> I'm not sure i get withdraw symptoms, but i do put on music when i cook/clean and work on my car
[13:34] <eggggs> i have a constant ringing in my ears  so i have to have noise going 24/7
[13:35] <eggggs> pithos is pandora on  linux if you never used it
[13:35] <tatertots> I wish all the music services such as pandora/spotify had web browser based players so end users didn't need to install any application to enjoy their muisc
[13:35] <tatertots> music
[13:36] <eggggs> i prefer the app, personally
[13:36] <damien> tatertot: spotify does have a web player!
[13:37] <tatertots> you shouldn't have to muck around with software and it's config just to enjoy some tunes
[13:37] <binarydepth> eggggs I stopped that (ringing) with meditation
[13:37] <damien> their servers were down yesterday, which is why nobody could access spotify
[13:38] <binarydepth> tatertots Sorry to say this but for that you need DRM, I think
[13:38] <tatertots> ouch i bet a ton of spotify users were upset about the outage
[13:38] <damien> yes, including me
[13:38] <binarydepth> That can be a marketing tactic
[13:39] <eggggs> binarydepth, nice  guided or just self practice
[13:41] <tatertots> I think i have spotify and pandora on my phone...i rarely use it though
[13:41] <aristotleaquinas> What advice would anyone have, when you want to install another version of the same ruby package you want. Would there be any issues that I could have as a result?
[13:42] <damien> ok tatertots, how do you listen to music?
[13:42] <aristotleaquinas> Ruby 2.2.1 is the version I want, and the one I have is 2.1
[13:42] <tatertots> youtube
[13:42] <binarydepth> eggggs Self practice, in to phases : Changing state of mood and identifying cognition. That thing you do when you want to calm down and that one when you end up an argument and realize how to win some time after.
[13:42] <tatertots> youtube has something called youtube music now also
[13:43] <binarydepth> Yeah, Gooogle bought a lot of rights to music or something alike some time ago.
[13:43] <damien> somtimes it's nice to just hear the music without videos
[13:44] <binarydepth> damien mostly I would say
[13:44] <ubuntu-user123> hi
[13:44] <damien> yep
[13:44] <SeraphSephiroth> Anyone able to give me a hand with an issue I'm facing?
[13:44] <tatertots> hi ubuntu-user123
[13:44] <ubuntu-user123> stop
[13:44] <binarydepth> I see the videos in special occasions
[13:44] <ouroumov> !ask | SeraphSephiroth
[13:45] <BluesKaj> videos require a lot more attention ,  plain audio frees up your time to do other things and still enjoy the music
[13:45] <damien> i agree
[13:46] <binarydepth> BluesKaj try to give thy same attention as of with videos, ofc with a music you find interesting. XD
[13:46] <tatertots> i remember telling another chatter that it was 2am...it's now almost 9am
[13:46] <tatertots> wow
[13:46] <binarydepth> LOL
[13:47] <SeraphSephiroth> So I'm trying to partition a disk, and when I try to delete the partitions, I get an error saying invalid partition table on /dev/sdc. Error is: Wrong Signiture 0. (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[13:47] <SeraphSephiroth> Tried fdisk and it hangs
[13:48] <binarydepth> eggggs learning those two things at will can take years.
[13:48] <BluesKaj> binarydepth, well, i enjoyed music in analog formats long before video or even digital (cds) came along
[13:48] <ouroumov> SeraphSephiroth, under gparted start by creating a new partition table of type msdos
[13:49] <binarydepth> BluesKaj I started with cassettes
[13:49] <tatertots> blueskaj...you're dating ur self by admitting you enjoyed vinyl and analog music
[13:50] <tatertots> j/k blueskaj lol
[13:50] <vekz> Nobody knows what your issue is, Seraph.
[13:50] <vekz> oops. I was scrolled up. lol
[13:50] <SeraphSephiroth> lol
[13:50] <damien> cassettes broke and cd's got scratched, i liked the minidisk format as the disk was covered, by protective plastic.
[13:51] <tatertots> seraph was advised to use gparted to remove the partition...
[13:51] <eggggs> awe but who has  messed with an 8-track
[13:51] <tatertots> I still have a minidisc player
[13:52] <tatertots> shhh don't tell anyone
[13:52] <damien> i was not that keen on mp3 players as they would break alot
[13:53] <BluesKaj> tatertots, not concerned about dating myself, aamof I'm glad to have had the pleasure of good analog audio equipment .. I miss the "sound"
[13:53] <eggggs> and laser discs
[13:53] <tatertots> ah i remember laser discs
[13:54] <SeraphSephiroth> gparted keeps killing itself
[13:54] <abstradelic> which compiler is used to generate the binaries on 16.04?
[13:54] <eggggs> SeraphSephiroth , can you live cd into the  computer ?
[13:54] <damien> i think they should bring back minidisks they were cool
[13:55] <SeraphSephiroth> I can yes
[13:55] <tatertots> live cd or make a bootable ubuntu USB key and try to work with your hdd/ssd
[13:55] <SeraphSephiroth> I'm trying to format a USB drive
[13:55] <abstradelic> hi guys, can someone tell me which compiler is used to generate the binaries on 16.04?
[13:56] <tatertots> I keep a ubuntu usb on my key chain in case i need to trouble shoot something
[13:56] <tatertots> comes in handy
[13:56] <SeraphSephiroth> The disk is my usual Ubuntu key -.-
[13:56] <SeraphSephiroth> It's also 64gb so I kinda need it
[13:57] <eggggs> SeraphSephiroth, do you have the program called disks on you  system ?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> SeraphSephiroth, fat32?
[13:57] <ouroumov> abstradelic: cat /proc/version
[13:57] <SeraphSephiroth> Was ntfs
[13:58] <SeraphSephiroth> also gparted won't mount it
[13:58] <tatertots> is the disk drive healthy?
[13:58] <SeraphSephiroth> how can I check?
[13:58] <tatertots> or are you working with a drive that is in predictive failure?
[13:58] <SeraphSephiroth> It's a USB flash drive so no SMART
[13:58] <vekz> Have you used dd on it lately?
[13:58] <tatertots> use disk program in ubuntu...it will show the drives health status
[13:59] <eggggs> SeraphSephiroth , the gui way is a program called "disks"   and it will format
[13:59] <SeraphSephiroth> It will not
[13:59] <abstradelic> ouroumov: thank u. but can you show me the output because I dont use Ubuntu
[13:59] <SeraphSephiroth> I tried
[13:59] <damien> to get to disks go to launcher system then preferences then hardware
[13:59] <SeraphSephiroth> gparted is throwing up errors too
[13:59] <damien> there you will see disks
[13:59] <SeraphSephiroth> I'm in disks
[13:59] <damien> cool
[13:59] <ouroumov> abstradelic, http://termbin.com/h0qk
[13:59] <vekz> I had something like this happen to me a day ago after dd froze up in the middle of making a live image.
[14:00] <ubuntu-user123> How to diasble plymouth?
[14:00] <ubuntu-user123> Or remove?
[14:00] <eggggs> xubuntu doesnt install it by default
[14:00] <tatertots> so the linux utilities fail to work on your usb disk that's NTFS...have u tried using windows utilities?....i know that's a sin around here
[14:00] <tatertots> but the guy is in a tough spot
[14:00] <damien> you don't want to disable plymouth your os uses that binary
[14:00] <SeraphSephiroth> Windows just threw up an error and said to reboot
[14:01] <abstradelic> ouroumov: aH... oK. thank you
[14:01] <ubuntu-user123> How to disable it?
[14:01] <damien> what for
[14:01] <SeraphSephiroth> gparted says wrong signiture
[14:01] <ubuntu-user123> for disable brown screen
[14:01] <tatertots> and you've tried working with this NTFS usb on a known good computer or a different computer than the one ur using?...if so just trash the usb and replce it already
[14:01] <damien> you mean the background?
[14:02] <ubuntu-user123> LVM NVIDIA BUG
[14:02] <SeraphSephiroth> Well it's unformatted at the moment but it was NTFS
[14:02] <damien> that has nothing to do with plymouth
[14:02] <damien> as far as i am aware
[14:02] <SeraphSephiroth> I just need to erase the partition table and start over
[14:02] <vekz> have you tried zeroing it out with dd?
[14:03] <damien> you need to really be experienced to use the partitioner on a working system
[14:03] <ubuntu-user123> remove first and last mb
[14:03] <damien> if things are working just leave it
[14:04] <u9d8nd839dn398> What is this? I clicked some icon on my screen and this opened...
[14:04] <ubuntu-user123> What about Plymouth?
[14:04] <tatertots> u9d8 this is the matrix
[14:04] <ubuntu-user123> I want text boot
[14:04] <SeraphSephiroth> hmmm looks like I might have it
[14:04] <damien> Plymouth is a binary code used to work your os
[14:05] <mae_tae> hello guyz, my samba apps no longer work, i really wonder i never change anything, it's been a long time that works very fine but suddenly it stops
[14:05] <ubuntu-user123> damien, can I remove it?
[14:05] <mae_tae> nmbd & smbd is not running, im clueless on what to do pls help me
[14:05] <akik> ubuntu-user123: remove "quiet splash" from /etc/default/grub and then run "sudo update-grub"
[14:06] <tatertots> mae tae you can try manually starting those two daemons
[14:06] <damien> no don't remove it, if you do you may find your os not working
[14:06] <ubuntu-user123> I removed in cfg
[14:06] <ubuntu-user123> nosplash also
[14:06] <ubuntu-user123> Its Ubuntu bug maybe
[14:06] <ubuntu-user123> Dude from nvidia said it
[14:06] <damien> try updating your os for bugs or do a system upgrade
[14:07] <ubuntu-user123> n owork
[14:07] <ubuntu-user123> nomodeset nowork
[14:07] <ThePhoenix47`> Strange... I ghosted someone who took my nick 5 minutes or so ago.
[14:07] <ubuntu-user123> nothing no work
[14:07] <tatertots> mae tae do those two daemons start and run when you start them manually?
[14:07] <ThePhoenix47`> Although it is a mystery why they took it
 then as I say before, ask ubuntu how to get a command line prompt for the encryption passpharse. [16:49] <Hussam> should be something in the initramfs.
[14:08] <damien> just do a released upgrade to fix most common errors
[14:08] <JunkHunk> hello after upgrading to 14.04.5 LTS and after login the desktop shows nothing but the mouse cursor...ctrl+alt+t brings up terminal and right clicking shows a menu with many options terminal internet file manager...when I click on them the system shows the login screen again and after typing password again the empty desktop and a message telling me to report a program problem detected
 this is a ubuntu bug really.
[14:08] <damien> or a software update too
[14:08] <JunkHunk> lapion?
[14:08] <ubuntu-user123> lapion, ?
[14:08] <SeraphSephiroth> Yeah it working now
[14:08] <SeraphSephiroth> Thanks for all your help guys :)
[14:09] <damien> You're welcome
[14:09] <JunkHunk> I am using lubuntu flavour
[14:09] <ubuntu-user123> tell them you need some initramfs function to unlock encrypted root. [16:52] <Hussam> take care of this part first and also check if plymouth can be excluded from initramfs image.
[14:10] <ubuntu-user123> Hey?
[14:10] <ubuntu-user123> So we have bug in Ubuntu
[14:11] <damien> if nvidia is the problem then you will have to wait for a bugfix
[14:12] <ubuntu-user123> damien, need bug report for first
[14:12] <damien> yes
[14:12] <ubuntu-user123> damien, idk how
[14:13] <damien> ok have you got your graphics software installed for your graphics card?
[14:13] <damien> but the software is not working right
[14:13] <ubuntu-user123> damien, yes
[14:13] <ubuntu-user123> damien, stop
[14:14] <ubuntu-user123> damien, no driver
[14:14] <ubuntu-user123> damien, bug in Ubuntu
[14:14] <damien> ok first try to update your os then download the graphics driver for your computer again
[14:15] <tatertots> hmm i thought u had sucessfully install the nvidia proprietary drivers already ubuntu-user
[14:15] <ubuntu-user123> damien, you to me?
[14:15] <tatertots> i noticed someone helping u blacklist the open nv driver earlier ...like wayyy earlier
[14:15] <damien> make sure you remove the nvidia driver first, don't worry you will still see the display
[14:15] <ubuntu-user123> ubuntusucks
[14:16] <tatertots> are you using a supported GPU?
[14:16] <tatertots> supported by the proprietary nvidia linux driver
[14:17] <damien> then after your done updating your os, then install the nvidia driver again
[14:18] <damien> you might need to go to synaptic package manager and install some drivers for ubuntu to make the nvidia drivers work with linux ubuntu
[14:18] <damien> i had to do this with my machine and it worked
[14:19] <tatertots> usually ubuntu handles amd/nvidia proprietary driver installation fairly effortlessly
[14:19] <tatertots> can even be done thru the gui
[14:20] <virtuosoj> When trying to add official PCSX2 PPA and install, I get this error in terminal upon apt update:
[14:20] <virtuosoj> "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net/gregory-hainaut/pcsx2.official.ppa/ubuntu xenial InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 508A982D7A617FF4
[14:20] <virtuosoj> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/gregory-hainaut/pcsx2.official.ppa/ubuntu xenial InRelease' is not signed.
[14:20] <virtuosoj> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
[14:20] <virtuosoj> "
[14:20] <yray> hi fellas. How can I tell ubuntu to use which mirror or repository during installation? Cause ubuntu by default chooses a server on its own during installation. and I want to choose a different server during installation.
[14:20] <ptnecniv> hi, i have a system running 14.04 with kernel 3.19 (with real time linux patch). I want to upgrade to the 4.4 kernel. Will I still be able to boot my old kernel if needed after installing 4.4 from the repo?
[14:20] <damien> yeah but with updates it can cause a problem if you have outdated software
[14:21] <yray> folks?
[14:21] <tatertots> i love dkms
[14:21] <virtuosoj> Did the PCSX2 repo maintainer screw up? Should I contact him or somehow try to install anyway?
[14:23] <lyze> virtuosoj, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubnuntu.com -recv-keys 508A982D7A617FF4
[14:25] <CheeDinski> Hi all, trying get a bluetooth usb adapter working...total noob, please go easy.
[14:26] <CheeDinski> I followed some instructions online, grabbed an hcd file from dropbox
[14:26] <CheeDinski> copied it to /lib/firmware/brcm/
[14:26] <virtuosoj> lyze, tyty
[14:26] <tatertots> Cheedinski is it detected by ur system?.....lsusb...dmesg
[14:27] <tatertots> what is the chipset of this usb bt dongle u have?
[14:27] <CheeDinski> [ 2035.748090] usb 2-5: new full-speed USB device number 11 using ohci-pci
[14:27] <CheeDinski> [ 2035.972600] usb 2-5: New USB device found, idVendor=19ff, idProduct=0239
[14:27] <CheeDinski> [ 2035.972608] usb 2-5: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[14:27] <CheeDinski> [ 2035.972612] usb 2-5: Product: BCM20702A0
[14:27] <CheeDinski> [ 2035.972615] usb 2-5: Manufacturer: Broadcom Corp
[14:27] <CheeDinski> [ 2035.972618] usb 2-5: SerialNumber: 98588A06DF24
[14:27] <wuseman> Ey!
[14:28] <wuseman> Use pastebin man you crashing my beep system here
[14:30] <virtuosoj> lyze, actually that did not work :(
[14:30] <lyze> !pastebin | CheeDinski
[14:30] <lyze> virtuosoj, argh ... then sorry, can't help you
[14:30] <wuseman> CheeDinski: do 'tail -f /var/log/syslog'  and then unplug the device and then replug the device
[14:30] <tatertots> anything in the logs about the status of your usb bt dongle?
[14:30] <wuseman> do you get any answer CheeDinski ?
[14:31] <yray> guys was my question unclear?
[14:31] <virgoretti6> "Wine depends on a package, but that package is not going to be installed." Why???
[14:31] <virtuosoj> lyze, if on the launchpad page he provides a key, can I replace the one you gave me with the one he put?
[14:31] <wuseman> tail -f is your best friend when troubleshoots such things
[14:31] <lyze> virtuosoj, yeah you can try that one c:
[14:31] <tatertots> wuseman is on the right track i'll back off and let him assist with ur usb bt dongle issue
[14:31] <CheeDinski> I didn't get an answer yet
[14:31] <tatertots> did u check the logs
[14:31] <wuseman> I meant from the syslog?
[14:31] <CheeDinski> Looks like I blew up irc with too many lines posted
[14:32] <CheeDinski> One sec
[14:32] <blut> !pastebinit
[14:32] <yray> !course
[14:32] <tatertots> check logs...make sure u have any firmware that might be needed if applicable
[14:34] <CheeDinski> So it doesn't look like anything happened when i replugged?
[14:34] <CheeDinski> Prompt didn't return
[14:35] <CheeDinski> http://pastebin.com/RTQfuvkF
[14:35] <CheeDinski> There is the sys log
[14:36] <virgoretti6> how can I stop "holding broken packages"?
[14:37] <wuseman> CheeDinski: then you didnt found the device.
[14:37] <wuseman> Try another USB port.
[14:37] <N3sh108> the easy way (doesnt always work) is to run dpkg -reconfigure, the other is to go through the package file and remove them
[14:38] <N3sh108> virgoretti6
[14:38] <tatertots> was just thinking the same thing wuseman :P ....try a known good usb port on system and check logs again
[14:38] <CheeDinski> http://pastebin.com/kyppDeV4
[14:39] <virgoretti6> N3sh108 I don't even know what broken packeges I'm holding...
[14:39] <tatertots> there should be more logs than that Cheedinski....we know it's displayed in the output of lsusb
[14:39] <capum321> i am building a package http://www.monodevelop.com/developers/building-monodevelop/#linux  -> configure http://dpaste.com/2BMBMQN  -> make http://dpaste.com/0ZST5MK what is wrong in this output?
[14:39] <tatertots> let's see your syslog output
[14:39] <CheeDinski> You want the whole thing?
[14:39] <tatertots> why not
[14:40] <virgoretti6> "dpkg: error: conflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (--remove)"
[14:40] <tatertots> I've had 3 cups of coffee
[14:40] <virgoretti6> N3sh108
[14:42] <wuseman> if syslog wont find the usb when its plugged in how you can say its there? Cause the modules are loaded its not necassary the device working properly or the input port
[14:42] <capum321> brb
[14:42] <ouroumov> In a LAN, how to configure a machine so that its hostname won't leak? (Not visible through iftop wlan0 by other computers)
[14:44] <CheeDinski> http://pastebin.com/EnAJ3x13  The entire morning's worth...sorry it's a lot to sort through
[14:44] <wuseman> hey ouroumov
[14:44] <wuseman> you need change the command to readonly
[14:45] <wuseman> you can either make a nice script for that or something like, sec i will make the script for ya
[14:45] <CheeDinski> Thanks for the help, BTW, I know how painful it is to help someone who doesn't even know enough to follow your help correctly
[14:45] <wuseman> readonly -f /bin/command_you_wanna_disable and response with an echo message if you wanna say "Sorry bro this aint allowed for ya "
[14:46] <wuseman> CheeDinski: not painful at all, everyone have been there.
[14:46] <DArqueBishop> ouroumov: this may very well be the wrong answer (and others will say if it is), but if it's that important that said information be hidden and it's only in regards to wireless clients, why not just isolate the wireless clients?
[14:46] <ouroumov> wuseman, what command? I'm not sure you've been answering my question here :x
[14:46] <wuseman> you wanna disable a command for a specifik user,  ya?
[14:47] <wuseman> Then you need to change the flags for the command and mostly default commands under /bin folder
[14:47] <yray> can someone please help me a little bit maybe?
[14:47] <DArqueBishop> wuseman: no, he wants to make it where clients on a LAN can't get information about other clients via the network (if I understand him correctly).
[14:48] <wuseman> Aha, then i missunderstood
[14:48] <wuseman> Sorry
[14:48] <ouroumov> DArqueBishop, I'm on a big LAN (free wifi access point that tracks users through their MAC addresses), when I run iftop <wifi interface> I can see the hostnames of every other machines connected on the net. Some of those don't show hostnames though, only IP addresses. I want to configure my machine to do that
[14:48] <wuseman> yray: whats up?
[14:48] <virgoretti6> whats a shared library file?
[14:48] <wuseman> ouroumov: do you got root access?
[14:49] <yray> wuseman: thanks man I am trying to prevent ubuntu during installation to choose a server automatically. I want to tell ubuntu during installation phase, to use a specific server
[14:49] <ouroumov> wuseman, I'm not admin of the LAN net. I'm just the admin of my own machine on the LAN.
[14:49] <yray> like the Main server only
[14:49] <JunkHunk> hello ater upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 the admin login takes me to an empty desktop with reporting program problem warnings I can ctrl+Alt+t and open a terminal and everything looks okay but the desktop...when I login with a guest account I get a pid error but the desktop is okay...which could be the easiest solution here? I am using lubuntu and non-pae so I cannot reinstall the system
[14:50] <yray> but I don't really know how
[14:50] <wuseman> What kind of server is tihs?
[14:50] <wuseman> this*
[14:50] <UbuntuUser2016> Good morning. I was wondering if it's possible to symlink a non root user file to crontab for that user... I've read in quote a few places that anything under /etc/cron* must be owned by root
[14:50] <yray> wuseman : mine?
[14:50] <wuseman> Sorry i cant help you with that, i cant understand the question properly :/ Where in installation do you choose a server?
[14:52] <yray> wuseman : no where, that is the point. you see, when you give the installation access to internet, Ubuntu tries to get updates for the installation, but instead of using the main server it chooses a server automatically on its own
[14:52] <yray> I want to stop this
[14:52] <nacc> yray: you'd pass it in a command-line option to the installer (preseed syntax), probably
[14:52] <binarydepth> tatertots too late I will mug you at no notice for that mini disc
[14:53] <yray> nacc : can you give me more info on that maybe?
[14:53] <tatertots> lol
[14:53] <wuseman> Aha, you wanna change the mirrorselect
[14:53] <yray> yes
[14:53] <binarydepth> damien, isn't mini disc part of public domain already ?
[14:53] <wuseman> 'sed -i 's%us.archive.ubuntu.com%mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntuarchive/%' /etc/apt/sources.list' in a terminal
[14:54] <wuseman> sudo also
[14:54] <yray> during installation?
[14:54] <nacc> yray: one sec
[14:54] <binarydepth> brb
[14:54] <yray> nacc: ok, thanks man
[14:55] <wuseman> hum, yes? use "try ubuntu" then open a command type that and then make the installation instead of install ubuntu directly
[14:55] <wuseman> easiest solution for you
[14:56] <nacc> yray: i think you should be able to pass (to the installer) "mirror/http/hostname=<domain>". If you also need to change the path, then you'd also pass "mirror/http/directory=<path>".
[14:56] <wuseman> When you try ubuntu you can choose "install ubuntu" from the desktop. I dunno how the gui installation works but thats gonna work
[14:56] <ptnecniv> hi, i get the following error when i try to sudo: sudo: unable to resolve host VincentNUC
[14:57] <wuseman> ouroumov: i have no idea to be honest, but you can fake your mac adress but i doubt you wanna do that since i guess the wifi connection is binded over the wlan so you wont get access otherwhise
[14:57] <ptnecniv> my /etc/hosts file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/cPGGkTHr
[14:58] <yray> nacc: what about "sed -i 's%us.archive.ubuntu.com%mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntuarchive/%' /etc/apt/sources.list" that wuseman suggested?
[14:58] <ptnecniv> nvm, i see the typo
[14:59] <wuseman> ptnecniv: ;)
[14:59] <nacc> yray: well, it depends on how you install if that's an option
[15:00] <nacc> yray: that will obviously affect the running system, but if you're in the installer already, you'd need to drop to a shell to run that command; or as wuseman said, you might be able to do it by modifying the live system and then installing from that.
[15:00] <yray> What do you mean?
[15:00] <yray> I mean what do you mean it will effect the runing system?
[15:01] <wuseman> ya nacc. yray you can jump the the terminal with alt+ctrl f1 and jump back to the desktop with f7 i belive
[15:01] <wuseman> to the*
[15:01] <JunkHunk> how to reinstall only desktop in lubuntu?
[15:02] <yray> yes, but the problem is if you are in the live session, ctrl + alt + f1 will require you to insert password for root
[15:02] <yray> or at least login using soome username
[15:02] <wuseman> JunkHunk: remove the lubuntu-desktop and jump out x and then just type sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop.
[15:02] <TheSilentLink> hello I have installed ubuntu mate but I can't change the default terminal
[15:02] <TheSilentLink> anyonehelp?
[15:03] <JunkHunk> wuseman and how do I remove the lubuntu desktop?
[15:03] <wuseman> sudo -s maybe works
[15:03] <wuseman> yray: sudo -s maybe works?
[15:03] <DArqueBishop> ouroumov__: to be honest, I thought I was looking in #openwrt and not #ubuntu when I answered. :-)
[15:03] <nacc> yray: from the live session or the installer?
[15:03] <nacc> yray: from the live session, just open a terminal (no need to drop to tty1)
[15:03] <wuseman> sudo apt-get purge lxde is the meta-package
[15:03] <wuseman> JunkHunk: ^
[15:03] <yray> nacc: the live session
[15:04] <wuseman> but try lubuntu-desktop instead
[15:04] <JunkHunk> wuseman,  removing desktop will delete files and folders?
[15:05] <wuseman> No, but do not forget to make a backup allways if you are afraid to loose data. But no it wont.
[15:06] <JunkHunk> wuseman,  would these commands do the trick for removing desktop? http://askubuntu.com/questions/453841/how-to-remove-lubuntu-desktop-from-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[15:07] <wuseman> JunkHunk: seems fine yes but i never using --autoremove
[15:09] <virgoretti6> can anyone here help me install wine? I'm getting really weird errors when I try to install it...
[15:10] <yray> wuseman : I am going to use "sed -i 's%us.archive.ubuntu.com%mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntuarchive/%' /etc/apt/sources.list" but I am kind of sure that ubuntu is going to use its own automatically found server anyways
[15:11] <wuseman> yray: you can set your own mirrorselect aswell
[15:11] <wuseman> I have no clue wich server you wanna use
[15:11] <capum321> virgoretti6: run wineconfig on terminal
[15:11] <yray> wuseman : you mean in the live session?
[15:11] <yray> I can choose the mirrors?
[15:12] <bildz> anyone seen this error before:  AH01630: client denied by server configuration:
[15:12] <yray> Cause I have done it before, but during installation ubuntu uses its own server select, regardless of my choise
[15:12] <virgoretti6> capum321 command not found
[15:12] <wuseman> Of course you can choose, i belive ubuntu choose the nearest server already
[15:12] <TheSilentLink> hello I am using ubuntu-mate and I changed the default terminal app but it is not changing when I use ctrl+alt+t. Anyone know why?
[15:13] <capum321> virgoretti6: wine --version
[15:13] <yray> ok going to try it tomorrow, thanks anyhows guys
[15:13] <wuseman> Hi TheSilentLink 'gconftool --type string --set /desktop/gnome/applications/terminal/exec <YOUR-TERMINAL>'
[15:13] <wuseman> and it will change the default program for termianl
[15:13] <wuseman> terminal
[15:14] <wuseman> if its gnome i forgot what mate using
[15:14] <virgoretti6> capum321, No command 'wine' found
[15:14] <TheSilentLink> I typed gconftool --type string --set /desktop/gnome/applications/terminal/exec terminator and it is still opening the mate one
[15:15] <CheeDinski> tatertots: You still around?  Can I PM?
[15:15] <wuseman> mate is using Gnome as desktop WM TheSilentLink ?
[15:15] <TheSilentLink> wuseman:well I don't know lol
[15:16] <capum321> virgoretti6: have you follow this page? https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
[15:16] <wuseman> TheSilentLink: aha, try this anyhow: sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
[15:17] <TheSilentLink> wuseman: the current choice is terminator...
[15:18] <zerowaitstate> I'm having a problem with udev. I have to set mode 0666 and assign the group "plugdev" to an android device when it connects. I have the rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/ , but it's not taking effect. udev still assigns 664, group "root" to the device
[15:18] <tatertots> I'm here CheeDinski
[15:18] <TheSilentLink> wuseman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17749635/
[15:18] <zerowaitstate> relevant line in lsusb is: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0c2e:0ba3 Metrologic Instruments
[15:18] <capum321> what am i missing here? is this outputs an error? dpaste.com/0ZST5MK
[15:19] <Village> Guys, how i can update TSL to 1.6.7 at Ubuntu 14.04
[15:19] <Village> ?
[15:19] <zerowaitstate> rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules is: SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="02ce", MODE="0666", GROUP="plugdev"
[15:19] <wuseman> TheSilentLink: thats fine, its still not working?
[15:19] <CheeDinski> tatertots:  Would you mind jumping back into the Bluetooth fight?
[15:19] <wuseman> sudo apt-get install terminator && sudo apt-get remove gnome-terminal && sudo ln /usr/bin/terminator /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[15:19] <ducasse> zerowaitstate: you need to reboot or reload the udev rules with udevadm.
[15:19] <wuseman> try that
[15:20] <TheSilentLink> wuseman: nope it is still loading the mate one
[15:20] <CheeDinski> tatertots:  wuseman has his hands full solving the planet's Ubuntu problems :)
[15:20] <tatertots> sure
[15:20] <wuseman> TheSilentLink: wait, let me check mate wm manager
[15:20] <TheSilentLink> wuseman: ok thanks for helping
[15:21] <tatertots> i have a question about ur bt dongle issue....had you installed "bluez"at any point?
[15:21] <CheeDinski> tatertots: Yes, I did install bluez
[15:22] <CheeDinski> I can't say that I did it correctly, but an attempt was made
[15:22] <tatertots> is the btusb module listed when u look for it in the output of lsmod
[15:23] <wuseman> No idea TheSilentLink tbh if you have fixed so it says so, maybe you can play with your .bashrc file
[15:23] <Village> Guys, how i can update TSL Protocol to 1.6.7 at Ubuntu 14.04
[15:23] <Village> ?
[15:23] <nacc> Village: TSL Protocol?
[15:23] <wuseman> TLS ?
[15:23] <CheeDinski> tatertots:  Have a look, I don't want to provide the wrong info  http://pastebin.com/b5jr52QE
[15:24] <TheSilentLink> wuseman: o ok is the file in the home directory?
[15:24] <wuseman> TheSilentLink: yes its hidden in your homefolders. ~/.bashrc
[15:25] <Village> nacc, i have 1.2 <somsip> Village: oh - you want to know what version of the protocol. Try "openssl ciphers -v | grep TLS"
[15:25] <Village> TLS* verry sorry, my mistype:/
[15:25] <virgoretti6> capum321 I just ran all of the commands on the page you sent me a link to.
[15:25] <izmo> Hey , im new here. How to install steam?
[15:25] <Village> wuseman, TLS yes
[15:26] <nacc> Village: i think you might be confusing the protocol version with a pacakge version
[15:26] <izmo> do i use just you apt-get install ?
[15:26] <wuseman> CheeDinski: your device isnt recognized by the syslog, have you tried what i said earlier? 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and replug the device to another port?
[15:27] <nacc> Village: the TLS that has 1.6.7 (in a quick google) is the "OpenSSL Tcl Extension"
[15:27] <wuseman> Keep the syslog up and running when you unplug it the syslog should give you an answer and when you replug the device, give me the output on pastebin
[15:27] <Village> Hm, let me try explaine problem - http://pastebin.com/hU02Gt6u
[15:27] <TheSilentLink> wuseman: it is set as the default one it is just the shortcut doesn't work
[15:27] <Village> I need TLS 1.6.7
[15:28] <nacc> Village: no, you need 1.6.7 of the TLS Extension.
[15:28] <Village> nacc, so how i can update version?
[15:28] <Village> nacc, ok, how i can update?
[15:28] <CheeDinski> wuseman: I'll try again
[15:29] <nacc> Village: you can't, officially, in 14.04
[15:29] <wuseman> TheSilentLink: what about 'mate-terminal' in console and then change it?
[15:29] <nacc> Village: 1.6.7 is only available for >16.04
[15:29] <nacc> *>=
[15:29] <zerowaitstate> i tried rebooting and the udev rule still isn't firing
[15:29] <Village> I need new ubuntu version?
[15:29] <tatertots> out of curiosity what does hcitool dev spit out
[15:29] <tatertots> ?
[15:29] <nacc> Village: or build it yourself
[15:29] <wuseman> either you should be able to change that in System Tools -->Preferences-->System Settings-->keyboard-->shortcut  TheSilentLink
[15:29] <Village> Understand, Thanks, nacc
[15:30] <Village> nacc, one more question, can i update to ubuntu 16.04 by shell?
[15:30] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | Village
[15:30] <wuseman> dist-upgrade Village
[15:30] <nacc> Village: you can, technically, but i'd not recommend it until 16.04.1
[15:30] <wuseman> :P
[15:30] <tatertots> does it show anything when u run "hcitool dev"
[15:31] <CheeDinski> wuseman:  I must be doing something wrong, this is all I see when I follow your instructions http://pastebin.com/gTy2MgZL
[15:31] <Village> nacc, understand, thanks,pleasure guys get the answers, heartly thanks,
[15:31] <CheeDinski> tatertots: no, nothing is listed there
[15:32] <tatertots> ok
[15:32] <Village> nacc, wuseman, thanks
[15:32] <wuseman> CheeDinski: why wrong? keep this log up and running, unplug the device connected to the usb, is it quiet in the log or do it spit out text?
[15:32] <archer121> Hi! I don't want this to be a xy problem, so what I am trying to achive is to install cuda on my laptop. My laptop comes with a NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce 920M] graphics card. Whatever I try to do, I end up with a unbootable system. Can anyone help me with this?
[15:33] <archer121> Can I install nvidia-367 on ubuntu 14.04?
[15:33] <wuseman> Ahh you getting an answer CheeDinski
[15:33] <CheeDinski> wuseman:  the syslog is updated everytime I unplug and replug, if that's what you mean
[15:33] <wuseman> BCM20702A0 is your device?
[15:34] <CheeDinski> wuseman:  I think so...that's what the syslog is spitting out
[15:35] <archer121> to install nvidia-367 on ubuntu 14.04, I added the PPA "ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa", but I can't seem to install it. What did I do wrong?
[15:35] <wuseman> CheeDinski: just wanted to be sure the device is running, so now what is the problem with the device CheeDinski ?
[15:36] <CheeDinski> wuseman: well none of the commands that should show the device seem to be working, for example, tatertots'
[15:36] <wuseman> have you loaded the correct modules(DRIVERS) for the device?
[15:36] <CheeDinski> No device shows in the bluetooth hardware settings
[15:36] <EricBB> Hey guys, I've got a hard drive with 10.04 that I put into a different laptop than the one I installed ubuntu on, and now can't get wireless or lan connections, even though they are enabled. How do I update this thing/fix modules to get an internet connection running on it without whiping it and losing my data?
[15:36] <soee> how snaps are upated after installing ?
[15:37] <CheeDinski> wuseman:  I think I tried, but Im linux stupid, so maybe now
[15:37] <CheeDinski> not*
[15:37] <Village> wuseman, when i updeted by terminal it's compactible with apache , php,, ftpd?
[15:38] <tatertots> I don't think he has the correct modules ...i also don't think he has the firmware
[15:38] <hiniya> ok so every have a day where all hell breaks loose and you cant figure out why. Well that is my day today
[15:38] <ducasse> zerowaitstate: look carefully at the rule, especially the vendor id...
[15:38] <nacc> Village: 16.04 has moved php5 -> php7 (and no php5 support)
[15:39] <Village> it's automatycally moving?
[15:39] <wuseman> CheeDinski: check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2262459&p=13215201#post13215201
[15:39] <Village> nacc, i need upgrade it after update?
[15:39] <Village> *
[15:39] <CheeDinski> ok, here is what I did in the meantime  http://pastebin.com/jZDwCaNF  when I tried to install
[15:40] <nacc> Village: you should ensure the 'php' package is installed after you are done upgrading
[15:40] <zerowaitstate> ducasse: yeah, I just saw that
[15:40] <zerowaitstate> ducasse: that was the problem
[15:40] <nacc> Village: and your code is php7 compatible :)
[15:40] <BluesKaj> archer121, are you doing, sudo apt install nvidia-367 ?
[15:41] <ducasse> zerowaitstate: 'sudo udevadm control --reload'
[15:41] <BluesKaj> the cuda cores should install by default, archer121
[15:41] <Village> i have installed apache2, php, vsftpd,,,, so i need now DS run to rescue mode before run upgrade command at terminal?
[15:42] <hiniya> ok so i booted up last night and got to the login page and logged it..... i get the blue ubuntu screen and mouse only. SO I checked my packages and had a dependency issue and gedit would not install
[15:42] <hiniya> so i have everything else fixed but i can not get libpeas-1.0-0-python3loader to work
[15:42] <hiniya> at least with the dependancies
[15:43] <hiniya> but I barely have a gui gnome wont work using fail safe and cant get apt-get to fix anything
[15:43] <hiniya> http://pastebin.com/JTLZVih4
[15:44] <hiniya> any suggestions or idea's?
[15:44] <archer121> BluesKaj: yes, but that would lead to my system getting unbootable.
[15:45] <mjayk> does anyknow know how to detatch a process from the terminal it was launched in
[15:46] <BluesKaj> archer121, what would ?  You asked how to install the 367 driver from the ppa, what I posted is the method to use.
[15:46] <tatertots> what's the contents of your "/lib/firmware"
[15:46] <tatertots> ?
[15:46] <tatertots> @ CheeDinski
[15:47] <tatertots> i'd be interested in seeing your "/lib/firmware"
[15:48] <archer121> BluesKaj: I am sorry, but I did not understand anything. What method?
[15:48] <CheeDinski> tatertots: How would I find that?
[15:48] <tatertots> "ls /lib/firmware"
[15:48] <tatertots> let's see what all firmware you've got going
[15:48] <BluesKaj> archer121, in the terminal, sudo apt install nvidia-367
[15:49] <CheeDinski> http://pastebin.com/q27xEHCE
[15:49] <hiniya> anyone?
[15:49] <archer121> BluesKaj: E: Unable to locate package nvidia-367'
[15:50] <tatertots> ok
[15:51] <tatertots> one more thing
[15:51] <tatertots> let's go in further
[15:51] <CheeDinski> I couldn't get anywhere with wuseman's link suggestion, the file will not extract
[15:51] <tatertots> "ls /lib/firmware/brcm"
[15:51] <BluesKaj> archer121, after adding the ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa did you do sudo apt update ?
[15:51] <tatertots> brcm is where broadcom firmware would be living
[15:52] <tatertots> let's take a look see
[15:52] <CheeDinski> http://pastebin.com/xJYHMCAa
[15:53] <CheeDinski> Nevermend on the extraction issue...I'm an idiot
[15:54] <tatertots> ok
[15:55] <CheeDinski> I still can't get the commands to work, so still no help there...
[15:55] <tatertots> is ur kernel newer or older than 3.16? ......"uname -a"
[15:55] <archer121> BluesKaj: Yes
[15:55] <sirano> hi
[15:56] <hiniya> Linux Darkness 4.4.0-27-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 21 17:44:30 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:56] <CheeDinski> Older....Linux ubuntu-OptiPlex-740-Enhanced 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:08:14 UTC 2014 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[15:56] <hiniya> i think it was because I tried to use katoolin
[15:56] <hiniya> because grub thinks I am running kali
[15:57] <tatertots> ok
[15:59] <afedyashov> :q
[15:59] <tatertots> let's get u some firmware for your broadcom bt dongle
[15:59] <tatertots> wget https://s3.amazonaws.com/plugable/bin/fw-0a5c_21e8.hcd
[15:59] <tatertots> sudo cp fw-0a5c_21e8.hcd /lib/firmware
[15:59] <hiniya> lu lu lu
[15:59] <CheeDinski> wget didnt work
[16:00] <CheeDinski> bash: https://s3.amazonaws.com/plugable/bin/fw-0a5c_21e8.hcd: No such file or directory
[16:00] <tatertots> what error?
[16:00] <tatertots> ok standby
[16:00] <CheeDinski> sure
[16:01] <W00dP3ck3r> tatertots, maybe that site works based on session based cookies? How about using Firefox's DownThemAll plugin?
[16:01] <W00dP3ck3r> just a thought...
[16:02] <BluesKaj> archer121, check your package manager software sources to make sure the ppa is actually there and enabled
[16:03] <tatertots> ok this works
[16:03] <tatertots> http://dchua.com/files/fw-0a5c_21e8.hcd
[16:04] <tatertots> make sure that makes it's way into "/lib/firmware"
[16:04] <tatertots> reseat ur dongle and let me know
[16:07] <tatertots> CheeDinski were u able to get the fw-0a5c_21e8.hcd into /lib/firmware ?
[16:08] <CheeDinski> tatertots: One sec...everything I do on this OS takes 10 times would it would elsewhere...the noobs remorse lol
[16:08] <tatertots> lol no worries
[16:09] <CheeDinski> Yes, it's there, now a replug?
[16:09] <hiniya> sorry just a bit of panic from this. I can recover my files but I had a project  i was working on
[16:09] <tatertots> yes now re plug the bt dongle
[16:10] <CheeDinski> tatertots:  Doesn't seem to have done anything, still nothing listed for "hcitool dev"
[16:11] <tatertots> we still have modules to fix
[16:11] <CheeDinski> Rgr
[16:11] <tatertots> you have the proper firmware now
[16:12] <CheeDinski> Well then I'm going on break...first step forward lol!
[16:12] <tatertots> ok
[16:12] <tatertots> lol :P
[16:12] <CheeDinski> Kidding...
[16:12] <CheeDinski> Still here
[16:13] <tatertots> ok lmao
[16:27] <Robert__> is the website http://www.ubuntu.com/ being blocked form the united states or something ?
[16:27] <CheeDinski> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'btusb': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[16:27] <tatertots> let's see that dmesg
[16:27] <DArqueBishop> Robert__: it's working for me.
[16:28] <k1l> Robert__: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ubuntu.com
[16:28] <k1l> Robert__: could be an issue on your netowrk or ISP
[16:28] <Robert__> well when I tried to log on I got a server error, hten when I tried to use a proxy in the united states same thing but when I used a proxy in another country it worked
[16:29] <k1l> Robert__: log on where?
[16:29] <DArqueBishop> Robert__: I've just tried from three different US ISPs. All three worked.
[16:29] <Robert__> hten==when
[16:29] <DArqueBishop> It's probably your proxy.
[16:29] <Robert__>  well I was not using a proxy at first
[16:29] <CheeDinski> tatertots:  Any trick to getting you the important info, or just try and copy the whole thing?
[16:29] <Robert__> will try again
[16:29] <tatertots> yep standby
[16:30] <hiniya> is there anyone who would be willing to help me with an issue?
[16:31] <Robert__> Now it is working
[16:31] <tatertots> yep
[16:31] <tatertots> we'll pipe the output to "grep"
[16:31] <tatertots> and search for "symbol"
[16:32] <Robert__> Ok I have another question, iam thinking about setting up a home webserver someday, How do you hide your website behind a proxy  server ?
[16:32] <tatertots> | grep -i symbol
[16:32] <CheeDinski> That didn't do anything for me
[16:32] <beantaxi> Anyone else just started getting 404s, on apt-get update for trusty?
[16:32] <tatertots> ok
[16:33] <tatertots> standby
[16:33] <CheeDinski> dmesg | grep -i usb maybe?
[16:33] <tatertots> yes
[16:34] <tatertots> try grep symbol w/o the "-i"
[16:34] <Robert__> to busy here latter...
[16:34] <tatertots> usb might bring back too much info
[16:34] <tatertots> let's grep for symbol
[16:34] <CheeDinski> w/o the i and usb or symbol?
[16:35] <tatertots> dmesg | grep symbol
[16:35] <CheeDinski> yeah, nothing happens again
[16:36] <tatertots> if that does't show any info...try modprobe -r bluetooth
[16:36] <CheeDinski> modprobe: FATAL: Module bluetooth is in use.
[16:36] <tatertots> ah ha
[16:37] <tatertots> it needs to use btusb
[16:37] <tatertots> reseat dongle
[16:38] <CheeDinski> ok
[16:38] <tatertots> after reseat of dongle is it still using bluetooth according to the output of lsmod
[16:39] <CheeDinski> looks like it...bluetooth             342263  10 bnep,rfcomm
[16:40] <Yuken> I'd like to set up an absolute basic openbox session on Ubuntu Server 16.04. How would I go about doing this?
[16:40] <tatertots> did u blacklist "btusb" previously possibly when messing with bluez
[16:40] <tatertots> ?
[16:41] <CheeDinski> i wouldn't know how if i did, so Im going to say no
[16:41] <izmo> Hi , my linux partition has become full
[16:41] <CheeDinski> one sec, ill show you the steps i took related to bluez
[16:41] <izmo> how do i use gparted to resize it?
[16:42] <CheeDinski> sudo apt-get install bluez python-gobject python-dbus
[16:42] <CheeDinski> that's it
[16:42] <hiniya> ok now that I have some more time I can stay here. Is there anyone who is willing to help me with an issue
[16:42] <tatertots> ok
[16:42] <tatertots> standb y
[16:42] <thyri> Hi all!
[16:43] <CheeDinski> sure, thanks for your patience, i already want to punch myself in the face...
[16:43] <tatertots> can you reboot?
[16:43] <CheeDinski> I can
[16:43] <thyri> I need to know where to get gstreamer-plugins-base, gstreamer-plugins-ugly and libuuid1...  Anyone have any idea?
[16:43] <nacc> hiniya: ask and see.
[16:43] <CheeDinski> brb
[16:43] <tatertots> reboot but remove dongle
[16:43] <CheeDinski> and keep it out?
[16:43] <tatertots> keep it out yes
[16:43] <nacc> thyri: aren't those already packaged for ubuntu?
[16:44] <izmo> How do i get more space for a created partition??
[16:44] <thyri> nacc I have no idea.
[16:44] <thyri> I"m brand new to Ubuntu
[16:44] <nacc> thyri: use software manager or whatever and search for them
[16:45] <thyri> Uh, software manager?
[16:45] <thyri> Where do I find that?
[16:45] <hiniya> I turned off my computer last night and brought it home from work. When I booted up it went to login screen for the gui . I logged in and it was just the ubuntu screen and my mouse. I thought something might be wrong so I checked my apt-get and made sure everything was up to day. I kept getting this error. http://pastebin.com/JTLZVih4 . As of this time I was playing with katoolin and i am worried something went horribly wrong as grub 
[16:45] <nacc> thyri: what version of ubuntu?
[16:46] <hiniya> sense then I have uninstalled everything from katoolin but I can not get a gnome to run and I still have a package issue and nothing I do seems to fix it.
[16:46] <hiniya> I am running 16.04 and linux 4.4.0-27-generic
[16:46] <tatertots> welcome back
[16:46] <CheeDinksi> tatertots:  Why thank you
[16:47] <thyri> nacc I think it's 15-something?
[16:47] <thyri> or 14 something?
[16:47] <thyri> I don't remember
[16:47] <tatertots> before u plug in that dongle
[16:47] <thyri> Nor do I recall how to find out.
[16:47] <nacc> thyri: lsb_release -a
[16:47] <tatertots> try modprob btusb
[16:47] <tatertots> with sudo of course
[16:47] <nacc> hiniya: the libpeas package you have installed (1.18.0-2) is not pacakged in any version of Ubuntu. I think you've broken your setup.
[16:47] <thyri> nacc in a command window?
[16:47] <CheeDinksi> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'btusb': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown
[16:47] <nacc> thyri: yes.
[16:48] <tatertots> darn it
[16:48] <tatertots> plug in the dongle
[16:48] <hiniya> is there a good way to unbreak it?
[16:48] <thyri> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[16:48] <CheeDinksi> Ok, done
[16:48] <nacc> hiniya: reinstall? i don't know what katoolin is, but you didn't fully undo whatever it did.
[16:48] <tatertots> i suspect it's gonna grab that bluetooth module again
[16:48] <tatertots> and that's fine if it does we'll deal with it
[16:48] <nacc> thyri: i think it's called software center then too, but not sure
[16:48] <hiniya> katoolin is an app to install software from kali for pentesting
[16:48] <nacc> thyri: or you can use `apt`
[16:49] <nacc> hiniya: yep, you broke your setup, probably.
[16:49] <nacc> hiniya: kali not supported here, nor is cleaning up trying to use kali.
[16:49] <CheeDinksi> tatertots: Bad question to ask this far into this, but are we sure we have the correct dongle/firmware...I've been going off the data returned in syslog
[16:49] <hiniya> 1
[16:49] <CheeDinksi> But it's a rebrand
[16:49] <thyri> apt?
[16:49] <hiniya> i understand just wasnt sure if yall could help with issue is all
[16:49] <thyri> where do i find this thing?
[16:50] <CheeDinksi> tatertots:  Insignia NS-PCY5BMA
[16:50] <nacc> !apt | thyri
[16:50] <nacc> thyri: you may want to read the ubuntu manual a bit
[16:50] <Tin_man> CheeDinksi, is this a wifi dongle?
[16:50] <tatertots> yeah u have correct firmware
[16:50] <tatertots> lsusb
[16:50] <CheeDinksi> Tin_man:  Bluetooth
[16:50] <Tin_man> ahh ok
[16:50] <hiniya> 1
[16:51] <tatertots> for that chipset
[16:51] <thyri> >.<
[16:51] <CheeDinksi> http://pastebin.com/J1auMzGA
[16:52] <nacc> thyri: or just use the software center as i said earlier (GUI)
[16:52] <tatertots> that lsusb output looks as if the dongle is NOT inserted yet
[16:52] <tatertots> insert dongle
[16:52] <thyri> nacc I'd love to use the software center but I don't know how to *get to* the software center.
[16:53] <CheeDinksi> I think it's the dynex, if i look in syslog it shows the device as #4, and the dongle is inserted
[16:53] <tatertots> ok ok this is good
[16:53] <nacc> thyri: are you running stock Ubuntu?
[16:53] <CheeDinksi> unless im reading the syslog incorrectly, but when I reseat, that is the usb #
[16:54] <thyri> nacc, I have no idea.
[16:54] <thyri> A friend of mine installed Ubuntu for me on this laptop
[16:55] <kshenoy> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu mini and have reached the point where it  asks me to select a kernel. Can someone pls suggest one and if possible explain the differences?
[16:55] <thyri> and didn't give me any info about it.
[16:55] <thyri> So I'm really flying blind here.
[16:55] <tatertots> plug dongle into different usb port and lsusb again
[16:55] <Tin_man> thyri, do you see a orange shopping bag on the left that's the Store for ubuntu
[16:55] <Tin_man> software center
[16:56] <nacc> Tin_man: thanks, i don't have 14.04 in front of me so wasn't sure what the icon was
[16:56] <thyri> Tin_man no, the only thing I see is the, uh, ubuntu symbol?  Upper left corner.
[16:56] <thyri> Blue circles-looking thing.
[16:56] <thyri> I guess it's the "start menu"
[16:56] <CheeDinksi> Dynex is now #5, which matches the syslog again
[16:56] <thyri> AHA!
[16:56] <tatertots> lsusb -v
[16:56] <thyri> Success!
[16:56] <tatertots> shows more verbose info
[16:56] <thyri> Ubuntu Software Center, right at the bottom :)
[16:56] <tatertots> ok cool
[16:57] <thyri> ok so doI just search for the little thingies I need?
[16:57] <CheeDinksi> I can't copy the entire output, run out of room to scroll up
[16:57] <vm096_> why my ubuntu network device is called eno1 and not eth0 on ubuntu 16.04?
[16:57] <tatertots> no worries
[16:57] <beantaxi> Anyone else getting 404s on apt-get on 14.04 (trusty)?
[16:57] <tatertots> standby
[16:57] <Tin_man> thyri, yes, or a name of the software
[16:58] <CheeDinksi> tatertots:  Ok...hey I'm really sorry, but I'll have to step away for a lunch meeting and can be back in ~1 hour...any chance you'll still be around?
[16:58] <genii> beantaxi: If you have PPAs, Launchpad is currently experiencing problems.
[16:58] <beantaxi> genii: Yes, it's definitely for PPAs. So basically just try again later?
[16:59] <genii> beantaxi: Yep
[16:59] <beantaxi> genii: Thanks very much for that
[16:59] <nacc> vm096_: predicate interface naming
[16:59] <beantaxi> genii: Also ... what is launchpad, anyway? Just a place that hosts PPAs?
[16:59] <genii> beantaxi: no problem.
[17:00] <tatertots> I'll be around most likely
[17:00] <CheeDinksi> Awesome...thank you so much again, tatertots!
[17:01] <CheeDinksi> Be back asap
[17:01] <genii> beantaxi: It's a resource for developers to work together, with additional things like personal package archives for those that want specific apps or different versions than what is in the regular repositories
[17:02] <vm096_> why my ubuntu network device is called eno1 and not eth0 on ubuntu 16.04?
[17:03] <nacc> vm096_: i just answered you?
[17:03] <jteppinette> Hey everyone, any updates on https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ being down?
[17:04] <beantaxi> genii: That's pretty cool. I didn't know any of that ... I'd just note 'launchpad.net' from time to time when doing updates
[17:05] <Bayam> excume me
[17:05] <Bayam> how can i use notepad in my ubuntu?
[17:05] <kshenoy> Bayam: notepad the editor?
[17:06] <kshenoy> Bayam: Do you specifically want to use notepad or any easy-to-use text editor? If the latter, then try gedit
[17:06] <Bayam> in windows
[17:06] <Bayam> sorry
[17:06] <Bayam> notepad which is usually used in windows
[17:06] <nacc> Bayam: you want to use a windows application in ubuntu?
[17:06] <nacc> Bayam: don't do that, use the ubuntu equivalent tool (gedit, kate, etc.)
[17:07] <kshenoy> ^
[17:07] <Bayam> nacc: don't?
[17:07] <jteppinette> vim
[17:07] <nacc> jteppinette: i figured that's a step too far :)
[17:07] <Bayam> then what is the application that resembles a notepad in ubuntu?
[17:07] <jteppinette> :)
[17:07] <kshenoy> Bayam: gedit
[17:07] <nacc> Bayam: you were just told, twice. gedit, kate, etc.
[17:07] <Bayam> i'm sorry :)
[17:07] <Bayam> thanks
[17:08] <nacc> or learn to use emacs/vim (gvim, if you must)...
[17:08] <kshenoy> Bayam: If you're going to be doing a lot of text-editing, it'll  be prudent to invest some time learning how to use a powerful text editor like vim/emacs. The learning curve is steep but the rewards are well worth the effort
[17:08] <jteppinette> Looks like https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ is back up.
[17:09] <Bayam> kshenoy: oke thanks i'll try sometime :)
[17:09] <beantaxi> genii: fyi apt-get update just succeeded, though I did need to add a public key from the keyserver to get it to work. I am assuming that is normal(ish) w launchpad from time to time
[17:10] <Jrmin> I'm having an issue where x fails to start sometimes after a reboot (like 20% of the time) with an error of no screens found. Anyone know how I should go about fixing this or troubleshooting?
[17:13] <sailingteam4> d
[17:13] <sailingteam4> qui est la
[17:13] <tatertots> With some kernel versions, you may have to rename the file to BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd
[17:14] <tatertots> we'll deal with that once u return from meeting
[17:17] <Amm0n> Jrmin, check syslog, kernel.log, Xorg.0.log for errors, or depending on your distro "sudo journalctl -b 3" to get messages for the last 3 boots
[17:18] <thyri> Ok so another really-super-newbie-to-Ubuntu question...
[17:18] <thyri> The "readme" file for Singularity says, "Run ./singularity from the installation directory to start Singularity."  How on earth do I do that?
[17:18] <Bayam> i'm a super-newbie hahaha
[17:18] <Jrmin> @Amm0n intel(0) [drm] failed to set drm interface version: permission denied [13] seems to be the first error
[17:23] <Amm0n> Jrmin, sounds like a driver issue to me, if the problem occurs only random
[17:24] <beantaxi> I have a server, onto which I load some bash and python scripts which get run via cron
[17:24] <beantaxi> Where should these files live? Reading about the FHS but I'm a bit lost
[17:26] <jteppinette> beantaxi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[17:28] <Bayam> i need a opinion
[17:29] <Bayam> what vpn nice to use?
[17:29] <cyberme> an opinion about what?
[17:30] <cyberme> I know nothing about vpn, sorry
[17:30] <jteppinette> they are all the worst
[17:30] <Bayam> sorry?
[17:30] <nacc> Bayam: use #ubuntu-offtopic for polling questions, please
[17:30] <Bayam> nacc: oke
[17:31] <carambas> hello. 16.04.01 is late. Anybody knows why is that?
[17:31] <beantaxi> jteppinette: Thanks ... I'm not sure that speaks to where to put my files though. Specifically /opt vs /usr/local/bin vs a folder under /usr/local/bin (I am assuming none of the other bin-ish options in the default PATH are good choices
[17:31] <nacc> beantaxi: they're your custom scripts? usually those would go in /usr/local/{bin,sbin} depending on if they are admin or not
[17:31] <Pici> carambas: its not July 21st.
[17:31] <carambas> oh no, it's not late, i'm just really bad with dates. sorry
[17:31] <Pici> carambas: my calendar still says June ;)
[17:31]  * nacc agrees with Pici :) [or at least my calendar does]
[17:32] <jteppinette> agree with beantaxi
[17:32] <jteppinette> *sorry, I mean nacc
[17:32] <nacc> beantaxi: /opt is rarely in the PATH by default; so you'd need to add it or use an explicit path to your executable in your cronjob (possibly advisable anyways)
[17:32] <beantaxi> nacc: Thanks ... from what I'm reading, officially anything under usr is supposed to have used package manager or something proper, and /opt is for non-standard stuff
[17:33] <beantaxi> nacc: however it also seems no one (on ubuntu) really uses opt and usr like that
[17:33] <thyri> Sooo, anyone?
[17:33] <beantaxi> just wanted to doublecheck I was being a good boy
[17:33] <beantaxi> nacc: Thanks for the explanation of bin vs sbin ... I've wondered about that
[17:34] <wiehan> Hi, I installed a fresh copy of 16.04. Usually I could do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell. Now, that doesn't work. Neither does another suggestion I found online help, that is: sudo apt-get install ubunt-gnome-desktop. How do I install the gnome shell?
[17:34] <nacc> beantaxi: might also clarify a bit: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/11544/what-is-the-difference-between-opt-and-usr-local
[17:34] <nacc> beantaxi: *often*, /usr/local is meant to override what's in /usr
[17:34] <nacc> as the path search order (by default) puts /usr/local first
[17:34] <wiehan> How do I install gnome shell on 16.04
[17:35] <robert45> hi guys, I need to install PHP with ZTS support but the official ubuntu repo doesnt have this, do you guys know by chance if there is any repository with this PHP package?
[17:35] <nacc> robert45: for php7? not yet built for debian or ubuntu afaik
[17:35] <robert45> nacc any version, PHP 5.5 ideally
[17:35] <nacc> thyri: did you install the singularity package?
[17:35] <thyri> I can't figure out how to install it, nacc.
[17:35] <thyri> The Singularity Linux client can entirely run from the directory you have unpacked it into - no installation step is required.  If you wish to perform a separate installation step anyway, you may run './install.sh'
[17:35] <thyri> Run ./singularity from the installation directory to start Singularity.
[17:35] <beantaxi> nacc: Thanks ... I'd read that; it was the Kevin Wheeler comment on the accepted answer, that led me to thinking I needed an Ubuntu specific answer
[17:36] <thyri> "from the installation directory"...  i'm like, what?
[17:36] <robert45> nacc what you mean? what singularity package?
[17:36] <robert45> oh sorry I thought that was for me
[17:36] <thyri> nacc was talking to me, robert45.
[17:36] <nacc> thyri: use the software cetner and intstall it
[17:36] <nacc> thyri: don't build it yourself unless you know waht you're doing
[17:36] <vm096_> #ubuntu-offtopic :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[17:37] <nacc> beantaxi: fair enough; i think you're fine
[17:37] <thyri> uh, yeah, I don't even know where to begin with "building"...
[17:37] <nacc> thyri: right, so don't :)
[17:37] <thyri> So how do I install it with Software Center?
[17:37] <nacc> thyri: same way you installed the others? search and install
[17:37] <thyri> Others?
[17:37] <thyri> I didn't install "others".
[17:37] <nacc> thyri: didn't you just aask about libuuid and other packages?
[17:37] <nacc> thyri: and were just told how to install those?
[17:37] <k1l> !register | vm096_
[17:37] <thyri> I typed in each of the things the site said I needed and Software Center couldn't find them.
[17:37] <thyri> No I wasn't told how to install them I was told to open Software Center and look for them.
[17:37] <thyri> Which I did.
[17:38] <thyri> And they didn't show up in the search.
[17:38] <nacc> thyri: you need to learn to search for packages. It won't be the exact name
[17:38] <nacc> thyri: so search for substrings. I found all 3
[17:38] <thyri> what the heck is a substring?
[17:38] <Marty1881> i have lxd setup on an ubuntu 16.04 host and my VMs are not respecting the limits.memory setting (2gb), they are given the hosts max memory (32gb). anyone have any suggestions?
[17:38] <thyri> You're acting like I've used Ubuntu before...  and I haven't.
[17:38] <wiehan> how do I install gnome
[17:38] <nacc> thyri: please read the ubuntu manual, before you start, then.
[17:38] <nacc> thyri: or the online documetnation, i think there's a getting started guide somewhere
[17:39] <nacc> Marty1881: lxd != VMs.
[17:39] <nacc> Marty1881: containers != VMs :)
[17:40] <wiehan> goodness. This place used to be helpful. Been here since 7.04
[17:40] <nacc> wiehan: you mean the gnome desktop?
[17:40] <Pici> wiehan: because you didn't get a response in 2 minutes?
[17:41] <beantaxi> wiehan: I've been here since about an hour ago and it's been pretty helpful
[17:41] <robert45> nacc so do you know if this is viable for PHP5 ?
[17:41] <nacc> robert45: looking, sorry
[17:41] <wiehan> good for you. How do I install gnome-shell as in the old days
[17:41] <robert45> nacc sure, appreciate your help
[17:41] <k1l> wiehan: besides you insulting all the volunteer helpers: what about you install the gnome-shell package?
[17:41] <nacc> robert45: php7 definitely doesn't have a zts build, checking on older
[17:42] <nacc> wiehan: apt-get install gnome-shell.
[17:42] <robert45> nacc I found this https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php-zts but it seems its for PHP7 only
[17:42] <SamF> Hey I'm getting a weird bug where my game pad is detected and works with some steam games but not others.  I checked the hardware tab in Logs and it shows that upon booting it is recognized by Ubuntu. It is kernel device c189:385
[17:42] <nacc> robert45: and highly highly experimental
[17:42] <wiehan> nacc does not work
[17:42] <nacc> robert45: don't run that in production :)
[17:42] <k1l> !details | wiehan
[17:42] <robert45> nacc understood
[17:42] <nacc> robert45: both ubuntu (16.04) and debian (stretch) are moving to php7 only, fwiw -- but still looking on the older packages
[17:43] <robert45> nacc ok standing by, tx for the help
[17:43] <majikman> in xenial, how can i get the applicaiton switcher to show up on all screens?
[17:43] <minas114> I know that ubuntu uses the GPU for Unity. My PC has the optimus technology -- will it be faster when using the NVIDIA card instead of the Intel one, when NOT playing games?
[17:44] <nacc> robert45:i think you'd need to rebuild yourself, unfortunately
[17:44] <robert45> nacc ugh :(
[17:44] <wiehan> nacc. As with previous iterations of 'buntu - you could run sudo apt-get install gnome-shell and then select your preferred login manager and bob's-your-auntie you can use a full gnome shell DE instead of unity instead of installing ubuntu-gnome iso. Now, in 16.04 sudo apt-get intsall gnome-shell yields: E: Package 'gnome-shell' has no installation candidate
[17:44] <wiehan> Elaborate enough??
[17:44] <nacc> wiehan: alright, less attitude would help. And yes, that's enough information.
[17:44] <k1l> wiehan: did you enable universe?
[17:45] <k1l> wiehan: ans you should drop that attitude asap.
[17:45] <nacc> wiehan: it's in universe as k1l said
[17:45] <robert45> nacc what do you think about this one? https://launchpad.net/~scribeinc/+archive/ubuntu/php5-zts
[17:45] <k1l> !info gnome-shell | wiehan
[17:45] <nacc> !ppa | robert45
[17:45] <wiehan> that would have sufficed, instead of trumpeting from some RMS ivory tower
[17:46] <k1l> wiehan: stop that drama. last warning.
[17:46] <nacc> robert45: so it might work, but you're on your own (support wise)
[17:46] <nacc> robert45: i'd be hesitant to use that in production, as well, unless you knew the scribe folks and knew what their support was like
[17:47] <nacc> robert45: they are out of date relative to debian, e.g. (unstalbe has 5.6.22)
[17:47] <robert45> nacc got it, thanks
[17:47] <nacc> robert45: which also might imply missing security fixes :(
[17:48] <wiehan> goodbye, "friendly bunch" of Linux hipsters, and the exact reason why everybody hates you
[17:48] <beantaxi> I genuinely wonder what is wrong with that guy
[17:49] <nacc> moving on ... :)
[17:54] <stephanketterer> hello :)
[17:54] <stephanketterer> i have 16.04 and it has gcc version 5..xxxx.. for cuda installation i need gcc version 4.xx... is there a way to downgrade that ?
[17:56] <SamF> Hi, my game pad is detected and works with some steam games but not others.  I checked the hardware tab in Logs and it shows that upon booting it is recognized by Ubuntu. It is kernel device c189:385
[17:57] <zykotick9> stephanketterer: note, changing the gcc version of a release probably isn't a good idea...  good luck.
[17:57] <ripper> bad idea
[17:57] <stephanketterer> so change the release then ?
[17:57] <stephanketterer> i mean i need to install the software :)
[17:57] <beantaxi> stephanketterer: Can you do a parallel install of gcc 4.x.x, and then build using that?
[18:01] <nacc> stephanketterer: gcc-4.9 ?
[18:01] <nacc> it's packaged in 16.04
[18:01] <stephanketterer> when i type gcc-v
[18:01] <stephanketterer> i get 5 something
[18:01] <nacc> !info gcc-4.9 | stephanketterer
[18:02] <stephanketterer> did i maybe update it
[18:02] <stephanketterer> without knowing what i am doing ?
[18:02] <nacc> stephanketterer: yes, that's the 'gcc' metapackage's result, most likely (the default gcc is gcc-5
[18:02] <bigpic> can someone take a look at my /etc/network/interfaces?  For some reason the post-up route add is not working
[18:02] <bigpic> http://pastebin.com/G85mDu3F
[18:02] <bigpic> if I copy n paste the line into the cli after reboot
[18:02] <bigpic> the routes will persist
[18:03] <bigpic> but the routes don’t get created as a result of the interfaces file
[18:03] <bigpic> =\
[18:03] <nacc> stephanketterer: so `apt-get install gcc-4.9` if you really need 4.x
[18:03] <bigpic> gotta be something dumb
[18:03] <stephanketterer> i did that
[18:03] <stephanketterer> but when i use
[18:03] <stephanketterer> gcc -v
[18:03] <stephanketterer> still says 5 something
[18:04] <stephanketterer> can i tell when i install a file... "use gcc 4"'
[18:04] <nacc> stephanketterer: uh, that's becuase it installed /usr/bin/gcc-4.9
[18:04] <nacc> stephanketterer: you don't want to change the default compiler, usually
[18:04] <nacc> but you can install other compilers, as you ddid
[18:04] <nacc> stephanketterer: so you'd invoked it with /usr/bin/gcc-4.9
[18:05] <stephanketterer> simply after ./filename ?
[18:05] <stephanketterer> or how do i invoke it
[18:05] <nacc> stephanketterer: huh? i just told you
[18:05] <Tadgy> I've got a bug with cachefilesd - it won't start at all from systemctl or invoking /etc/init.d/cachefilesd directly (it seems to call systemctl, but systemctl calls the init.d file to start it...) - can anyone replicate the issue on a test box?
[18:05] <nacc> stephanketterer: you can also just run gcc-4.9, probably
[18:05] <nacc> stephanketterer: rather than gcc
[18:06] <stephanketterer> what does ./user/bin/gcc-4.9 mean
[18:06] <stephanketterer> where do i use that
[18:06] <nacc> stephanketterer: right now you run `gcc -v`
[18:06] <nacc> stephanketterer: instead run `gcc-4.9 -v`
[18:06] <nacc> stephanketterer: or `/usr/bin/gcc-4.9 -v`
[18:06] <stephanketterer> ok thats it ?
[18:06] <nacc> stephanketterer: i don't know what you're doing, i'm just telling you that's how you invoke the 4.x gcc compiler :)
[18:07] <gollak> Hi all
[18:07] <stephanketterer> i am trying to install a file
[18:07] <stephanketterer> cud
[18:07] <stephanketterer> cuda
[18:07] <stephanketterer> that apparently does not run with gcc 5
[18:07] <nacc> stephanketterer: you're trying to install something? why do you need a compiler?
[18:07] <gollak> how could i set up my ssh-agent to my ubuntu lightning
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> gollak  ubuntu lightning?
[18:08] <gollak> MonkeyDust, oups, i mean lightdm
[18:08] <gentoouser3> hi
[18:08] <gentoouser3> can i ask for help about what command do?
[18:08] <nacc> !ask | gentoouser3
[18:08] <gentoouser3> or do i need to do my own research?
[18:08] <nacc> gentoouser3: although if you're on gentoo, may not get help in this channel :)
[18:08] <gentoouser3> im not
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> gollak  lightm is a display manager, what exactly do you mean
[18:09] <gentoouser3> http://prntscr.com/bk4gc0
[18:10] <gentoouser3> nacc:
[18:10] <nacc> gentoouser3: uh...
[18:10] <nacc> gentoouser3: what do you want to know?
[18:10] <gentoouser3> what is that do
[18:10] <CheeDinksi> looks like I missed all the good drama...what is wrong with some people...free help from friendly people and you still can't get along...oh well :)
[18:10] <nacc> gentoouser3: also, if you don't knwo what a command does, don't run it and don't *ever* use sudo to run it.
[18:11] <stephanketterer> because it says
[18:11] <stephanketterer> unsupported compiler
[18:11] <gentoouser3> what does it do
[18:11] <stephanketterer> when i want to install cuda
[18:11] <nacc> stephanketterer: please pastebin the exact output from whatever you're doing
[18:11] <nacc> gentoouser3: it wants to run that script as root
[18:11] <CheeDinksi> tatertots: Hey tater, still around?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> gentoouser3  if you want to focus your questions on scripts, better ask in #bash
[18:12] <gollak> MonkeyDust, i would like to save in memory my private key at computer starting
[18:12] <gollak> any idea ?
[18:12] <nacc> gentoouser3: so it checks you have sudo rights first (sudo -v); then it downloads linux-installer.py (wget ...) and sends the file over a pipe (|) to python (run as root (sudo)) which just runs the script read over stdin
[18:13] <nacc> gentoouser3: but as MonkeyDust said, if you don't know all those bits, probably ask in a shell channel
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> gollak  yes, it has name, have to look it up, moment
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> a name*
[18:15] <gollak> MonkeyDust, thanks
[18:15] <robert45> nacc trying to remove php with apt-get Im getting this error, any idea how to fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/17758838/
[18:16] <gentoouser3> what is shell channel?
[18:17] <nacc> robert45: this is on 16.04?
[18:17] <robert45> nacc yep
[18:17] <stephanketterer> it says
[18:17] <mulletdeath> I'm in the process of upgrading to 16.04 as we speak, and also backing up 1.2 TB of data to a drive. Will the update process interrupt my backup, or will I prompted if it needs to restart?
[18:18] <stephanketterer> Error: unsupported compiler: 5.3.1 Use --override to override this check
[18:18] <gentoouser3> hi
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> gollak  you mean this http://paste.ubuntu.com/17759083/
[18:19] <gentoouser3> i want to do it to install calibre
[18:19] <gentoouser3> so should i do that?
[18:19] <reisio> hi gentoo
[18:19] <nacc> !paste | stephanketterer
[18:19] <reisio> gentoouser3: do what to install calibre?
[18:19] <k1l> gentoouser3: ubuntu already ships a calibre package. use that
[18:19] <nacc> mulletdeath: i would have backed up *before* upgrading, probably :)
[18:19] <gentoouser3> i jut dont know what is wget-nv and main=lambda:sys.stderr.write('download failed ...
[18:19] <stephanketterer> i can't , because i am writing from another machine.. somehow irc does not install on my ubuntu
[18:20] <stephanketterer> and there is nothing more to paste than that line
[18:20] <reisio> gentoouser3: sounds like some python
[18:20] <k1l> gentoouser3: no, dont load stuff from other websites and run that as sudo. use the ubuntu package.
[18:20] <nacc> gentoouser3: i told you quite explicitly what that all does, but as k1l says, you should just use the packaged calibre
[18:20] <nacc> stephanketterer: then c&p...
[18:21] <nacc> stephanketterer: i need to see what you're running to cause that line to be printed, you're not giving enough context
[18:21] <gentoouser3> im in raspbian :)
[18:21] <nacc> stephanketterer: as in 'it' is undefined in your sentence
[18:21] <stephanketterer> sudo sh cuda_7.5....run
[18:21] <gentoouser3> this: https://calibre-ebook.com/download_linux
[18:21] <k1l> gentoouser3: so stop asking in here for non ubuntu support then. ask #raspbian
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> gentoouser3  try   sudo apt install calibre
[18:21] <gentoouser3> MonkeyDust: how is it different from it?
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> ah, missed the rpi part
[18:22] <nacc> stephanketterer: are you on 16.04?
[18:22] <gentoouser3> MonkeyDust: ?
[18:22] <stephanketterer> yes
[18:22] <nacc> stephanketterer: i think cuda 7.5 is packaged
[18:22] <gollak> MonkeyDust, no..
[18:22] <k1l> gentoouser3: we cant focus on the others distros issues. please ask the support channel for the distro you use. thanks
[18:22] <reisio> gentoouser3: downloading random installers is something for people on other OSes
[18:22] <stephanketterer> that means what exactly ? :)
[18:22] <gentoouser3> well i just want to install calibre to read pdfs
[18:22] <gentoouser3> is it safe? https://calibre-ebook.com/download_linux
[18:22] <reisio> stephanketterer: in the repos, no .run required, he means
[18:23] <stephanketterer> how do i install it then ?
[18:23] <stephanketterer> i know i am a noob
[18:23] <reisio> gentoouser3: not really what calibre is for, FYI; try evince
[18:23] <gebbione> my pc shutdown today for no apparent reason, what are the best logs to look for any errors?
[18:23] <nacc> !info libcudart7.5 | stephanketterer
[18:23] <gollak> i would like to avoid to launch this command at each start of my computer : ssh-agent && ssh-add /home/...my.key
[18:23] <nacc> stephanketterer: one sec, searching
[18:23] <reisio> stephanketterer: apt-cache search cuda | less
[18:23] <reisio> gebbione: laptop?
[18:23] <gollak> MonkeyDust, ssh-agent && ssh-add /home/
[18:23] <robert45> nacc any hint? Im in a serious trouble
[18:23] <gebbione> also Xorg logs are a bit strange.
[18:24] <gebbione> gollak, desktop
[18:24] <gollak> gebbione, sorry ?
[18:24] <gollak> i have a desktop yes
[18:25] <k1l> gebbione: look at /var/log into the syslog. maybe you need the older syslog if its already cycled
[18:25] <nacc> robert45: looking one sec
[18:25] <gebbione> reisio, i have a desktop. not a laptop
[18:25] <gebbione> xorg shows an error but timestamps are missing
[18:25] <gebbione> there are some strange numbers
[18:25] <nacc> stephanketterer: apt-cache seems to indciate the cuda packages are in multiverse (in particular libcudart7.5, maybe)?
[18:26] <stephanketterer> i am sure you are right
[18:26] <stephanketterer> i just don't know what that means
[18:26] <reisio> gebbione: not sure I've ever seen X cause a reboot (force one by freezing the whole system and leaving you personally no other option, yes)
[18:27] <nacc> stephanketterer: do you have multiverse enabled on your system?
[18:28] <nacc> robert45: i just spun up a container, and ran `apt-get install libglib2.0-dev` which put on the same version as you had an issue with, and no problem. Did you muck with your system ptyhon?
[18:28] <stephanketterer> since i do not know what it is,.. i have the default settings ? :)
[18:28] <robert45> nacc Well I tried the PPA repository, installed few things and then removed the repo because it didnt suceed
[18:28] <nacc> !repositories | stephanketterer
[18:28] <nacc> robert45: the scribe one?
[18:28] <gebbione> reisio, i blame it on all these updates ... i get errors like [    10.827] (EE) AIGLX error: failed to open /usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so, error[/usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file:
[18:29] <reisio> gebbione: hrmmm, never actually had a proprietary graphics driver fore a shutdown, either
[18:29] <stephanketterer> ok looked it up
[18:29] <stephanketterer> so if i enable it
[18:29] <stephanketterer> does that get me closer ?
[18:29] <reisio> gebbione: I'd start monitoring temperatures
[18:29] <robert45> nacc nope, the ppa:ondrej/php one
[18:29] <reisio> stephanketterer: to installing something in multiverse, yes
[18:29] <nacc> stephanketterer: yes, then you'd apt-get install the right pacakge
[18:30] <gebbione> reisio, well we had a very hot/wet day in the uk but i doubt my room temperature was that hot
[18:30] <stephanketterer> and how would i do that ?
[18:31] <nacc> robert45: i don't think ondrej's ppa has any glib stuff, are you using other ppas? that error seems unrelated to the ppas
[18:31] <robert45> nacc nope, not really. Just official ones
[18:31] <nacc> stephanketterer: you find the pacakge you need, although perhaps you should use the software center
[18:31] <reisio> gebbione: right, but computers aren't supposed to turn off on their own, so we're already in the realm of out of the ordinary
[18:31] <stephanketterer> i go in the software center and type in cuda?
[18:31] <nacc> stephanketterer: right
[18:31] <nacc> stephanketterer: once you have multiverse enabled
[18:31] <stephanketterer> hmm i will try :)
[18:31] <stephanketterer> give me second :D
[18:32] <gebbione> reisio, is there a structured way to monitor temperatures?
[18:32] <robert45> nacc how should I fix this?
[18:33] <nacc> robert45: can you pastebin `python --version`?
[18:33] <stephanketterer> it says no application found
[18:33] <stephanketterer> when i search for cud
[18:33] <stephanketterer> cud
[18:33] <robert45> nacc shows: Python 3.5.1+
[18:34] <reisio> gebbione: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[18:35] <KidnappedVictim> hello i have a wallpaper which i would like to move up a little bit
[18:35] <superguest> I am having trouble a saving the current xserver configuration for my multi-monitor setup to xorg.conf
[18:35] <superguest> http://termbin.com/4miu
[18:35] <KidnappedVictim> how can i do it
[18:35] <nacc> stephanketterer: which tool are you using?
[18:36] <superguest> In the current/running X session, I have configured and applied the desired settings via nvidia-settings
[18:36] <stephanketterer> tool ?
[18:36] <KidnappedVictim> to illustrate this, i shall use an example: there's an image containing 10 numbers upside down like 1, 2, 3, 4 and so on. however, the desktop wallpaper shows only 3 and 4 since its zoomed in
[18:36] <stephanketterer> i clicked on software center and typed in cud
[18:36] <KidnappedVictim> i want to raise it and show 1 and 2 instead
[18:36] <KidnappedVictim> i don't want to change the zooming
[18:36] <KidnappedVictim> superguest, nacc any idea?
[18:37] <nacc> KidnappedVictim: don't ping random people, those that can answer will.
[18:37] <superguest> but on reboot, it doesn't load the desired settings which I expect to be saved to xorg.conf (http://termbin.com/4miu)
[18:37] <Jordan_U> KidnappedVictim: Is the aspect ratio of the image the same as the aspect ratio of your screen?
[18:37] <KidnappedVictim> Jordan_U, no
[18:37] <nacc> stephanketterer: i think software center maybe isn't capable of seraching all packages (it seems to want to show me applications). I've never used it
[18:38] <nacc> stephanketterer: try the ubuntu software centre instead
[18:38] <reisio> KidnappedVictim: wouldn't it be simplest to crack it open in GIMP and crop it to the specific dimensions of your resolution?
[18:38] <Jordan_U> KidnappedVictim: Ok. What do you want to fill that missing space instead then? Do you want the image stretched or do you want bars on the top and bottom/ sides?
[18:38] <KidnappedVictim> i think gimp is probably the best idea
[18:38] <KidnappedVictim> thanks Jordan_U and reisio
[18:39] <stephanketterer> ok its a bug have to reboot it says
[18:39] <stephanketterer> one sec
[18:39] <robert45> nacc any idea how to fix this /usr/bin/pyclean thing? Im willing to pay for you time if you help me fixing this
[18:40] <nacc> robert45: i really have no idea what state you're in, or how it got there, unfortunately. as I said, i couldn't reproduce it. Possibly someone else can help
[18:40] <nacc> robert45: if it is a real syntax error, i guess you could try fixing it, but not sure why only you'd be seeing it
[18:40] <stephanketterer> it says i have to use apt-get install f
[18:41] <stephanketterer> to get it going
[18:41] <stephanketterer> but package not found
[18:41] <nacc> stephanketterer: please use pastebin, it's next to impossible to follow or help right now
[18:41] <nacc> stephanketterer: using 'it' over and over again, means i don't know what you're referring to
[18:42] <C_minus> I installed the CUDA 7.5 toolkit and graphics driver. Now hangs on 5 dots screen. I tried running the uninstall .pl script provided. Still hangs at boot.
[18:42] <stephanketterer> it says 16.04 has a bug so you cannot see the ubuntu software center, it is solved by changing the language settings... i tried to open it.. and it told me i need to use apt-get update install f
[18:45] <robert45> anybody else willing to help? Im getting a apt-get error, any help is aprpeciated http://paste.ubuntu.com/17758838/
[18:46] <nacc> robert45: figured it out
[18:46] <nacc> robert45: you've got python3 as your default python interpreter
[18:47] <nacc> robert45: and in python3, you must use 'as' for exceptions
[18:47] <C_minus> I can't run in failsafeX recovery mode either. I can't see the cursor.
[18:47] <nacc> robert45: it's a bug in that file, i guess, because 16.04 should be python3 safe
[18:47] <robert45> nacc oh, I see
[18:47] <nacc> robert45: but a quick fix, would be to edit /usr/bin/pyclean
[18:47] <nacc> robert45: go to line 63
[18:47] <C_minus> How can I edit grub to see which specific line I'm getting an error on?
[18:47] <nacc> and change the ',' to ' as'
[18:48] <C_minus> I remember the last time this happened, there was some problem with the xorg configuration file...
[18:48] <nacc> robert45: i would also file a bug, if you don't mind
[18:48] <nacc> against python-minimal
[18:48] <daumie> Everytime i log in I encounter  "system  problem detected"    how can i  revert this.
[18:49] <robert45> nacc Line 63 is: except (IOError, OSError), e:
[18:49] <nacc> robert45: can you also tell me what `which python` says?
[18:49] <robert45> nacc which python returns /usr/bin/python
[18:49] <ioria> daumie, can you paste   ls /var/crash   ?
[18:50] <nacc> robert45: ok, was just dobule-checking that there wasn't a local python
[18:50] <nacc> robert45: ok, change the ', e' to ' as e'
[18:50] <nacc> robert45: sorry, there were two commas in the line :)
[18:50] <robert45> nacc like this? except (IOError, OSError) as e:
[18:51] <nacc> robert45: yes
[18:51] <nacc> robert45: then run the apt-get again
[18:53] <robert45> nacc same error :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/17760989/
[18:54] <nacc> robert45: different error, as in different file
[18:54] <nacc> robert45: it might be faster to just switch back to python2
[18:55] <robert45> nacc I just found the PPA did replace some python files, see this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17761078/
[18:55] <robert45> nacc can I just go back to the previous package?
[18:56] <Jordan_U> !ppa-purge | robert45
[18:56] <nacc> Jordan_U: thanks
[18:56] <nacc> robert45: i dn't see any python pacakges from the ppa, fwiw
[18:57] <Jordan_U> nacc: You're welcome.
[18:57] <nacc> robert45: it seems like possibly your install was a bit messed up alrady (the dpkg warnings)
[18:58] <robert45> nacc ouch :( should I still try the ppa-purge thing?
[18:58] <nacc> robert45: yeah, it can't hurt
[18:59] <nacc> robert45: it was proably a mistake (however you did it) to make python -> python3
[19:01] <robert45> nacc ouch I cant install ppa-purge because the Unmet dependencies
[19:01] <robert45> nacc robert45: it was proably a mistake (however you did it) to make python -> python3 --> what about re-setting the python interpreter?
[19:02] <nacc> robert45: yeah, do you know how you did it?
[19:02] <nacc> robert45: to confirm, /usr/bin/python2 exists?
[19:02] <robert45> nacc by the way http://paste.ubuntu.com/17761474/
[19:03] <robert45> nacc yes /usr/bin/python2 works
[19:04] <nacc> robert45: ok, so how did you change python to be python3 (that's not ubuntu standard and violates PEP)
[19:04] <robert45> nacc probably the PPA did?
[19:05] <ioria> python --version  should tell you
[19:05] <reisio> he already knows it's python 3
[19:05] <reisio> he wants it to be python 2 again, if that is indeed what it should be for his Ubuntu version
[19:05] <nacc> robert45: i doubt it, that would violate the python policies for both debian and php (and ondrej is a debian developer)
[19:05] <lonix> So in a ubuntu server scenario ubuntu 16.04, is /etc/network/interfaces not the correct location to configure dns ?
[19:05] <robert45> nacc http://paste.ubuntu.com/17761639/
[19:05] <ioria> there was an update-alternatives somewhere  ...
[19:05] <nacc> robert45: can you pastebin `ls -ahl /usr/bin/python*` ?
[19:06] <nacc> ioria: yeah i can't find it on my system anymore (for python)
[19:06] <ioria> i see
[19:06] <robert45> nacc here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17761689/
[19:07] <nacc> robert45: ok, i think it's just a symlink issue. DId you happen to `sudo ln -s /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/python` ?
[19:07] <nacc> it would have been about a week ago by that output
[19:07] <nacc> (well, maybe)
[19:07] <robert45> nacc I dont recall doing so no
[19:08] <reisio> robert45: but do you recall doing "something" about a week ago? (installing your ppa?)
[19:08] <robert45> reisio I installed the PPA today
[19:08] <robert45> thats when all started
[19:08] <nacc> robert45: presuming you did, a fix is to `sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/python`, but I'm not 100% that's going to undo whatever did that step
[19:09] <nacc> the above link is how it is supposed to be in ubuntu & debian for the time being
[19:09] <nacc> anything else will lead to errors like you saw
[19:09] <robert45> nacc as far as I can start using apt-get Im good, thats my main issue
[19:09] <reisio> I'd say that's something to go ahead and try
[19:09] <reisio> it's easily undone, anyway
[19:11] <robert45> reisio nacc so does symlinking this will fix the apt issues ?
[19:11] <robert45> I still want to install the ppa-purge thing to make sure nothing is broken
[19:11] <reisio> robert45: shouldn't hurt to try
[19:11] <reisio> you can always undo it
[19:12] <robert45> reisio nacc ooooh that did it !!
[19:12] <reisio> gj
[19:13] <reisio> now what you might do is make sure you don't have anything else that is expecting 'python' to be python _3_
[19:13] <reisio> any important things
[19:13] <robert45> reisio how should I proceed to do that?
[19:15] <reisio> robert45: just consider what the important applications on the server are, the point of the server
[19:15] <reisio> robert45: consider if they utilize python, make sure they are still functioning
[19:15] <CheeDinksi> would anyone enjoy the pain of helping me continue to troubleshoot a usb bluetooth adapter issue?  tatertots and wuseman were assisting before I was called away.
[19:16] <robert45> reisio understood, one last thing how can I check if there are no other packages installed from the PPA repo?
[19:17] <reisio> ask the channel
[19:17] <wuseman> CheeDinksi: is modules loaded?
[19:18] <wuseman> What was the device product model number?
[19:18] <CheeDinksi> Product: BCM20702A0
[19:19] <CheeDinksi> Right before I left, tater seemed to suggest we were unto something
[19:19] <CheeDinksi> We verified that the device was listed with 'lsusb'
[19:23] <nacc> robert45: ppa-purge will handle that (or shuld)
[19:24] <robert45> nacc well it doesnt show anything but Im pretty sure there are some other packages installed
[19:25] <chalcedony> my husband seems to have a file corruption problem on ubuntu his libre office says it can't save a document, because the disk is full. . he says the disk is not full! .. something is wrong. How can i trouble shoot this?
[19:26] <Ben64> chalcedony: disk is probably full. "df -h" will show disk usage
[19:26] <chalcedony> Ben64, thanks sure doesnt look full
[19:27] <Ben64> pastebin output of that command
[19:27] <TrentH> I'm unable to control my brightness on my laptop until I log off and log back in?
[19:29] <hamed_> hamed
[19:30] <bizancio> Hello. I want to type caron (inverted ^) above letters in Ubuntu (actually, Xubuntu). Is there a way to do that like I do with accents? (e.g. á)
[19:30] <chalcedony> ok Ben64
[19:32] <chalcedony> Ben64, 1 hour paste http://pastebin.com/J01hSKBD
[19:32] <ioria> bizancio, like this ˇ  ?
[19:32] <Ben64> bizancio: the unicode character for the combining caron is 0x030C
[19:33] <Ben64> chalcedony: notice line 5
[19:33] <chalcedony> ah
[19:33] <ioria> ! T 100% wow....
[19:33] <chalcedony> so Ben64 his sda1
[19:34] <Ben64> chalcedony: doesn't really matter what device it is, the important part is on the right, it's the root filesystem and it's totally full
[19:34] <chalcedony> i see
[19:35] <Ben64> doesn't even look like the standard root reserved part is there on the filesystem, no good
[19:36] <FMan> btw, does Ubuntu support setting disk space usage quotas for users?
[19:37] <bekks> FMan: Yes.
[19:37] <ioria> !info quota
[19:38] <ubuntu-confused> Can someone help me with boot issues - trying to set up Ubuntu on existing Win10 HomeEd laptop
[19:38] <chull> Ben64, this is chalcedony typing from hubby's computer.  he's been running something i thnk it's called f3write that is supposed to test and check usb drives
[19:39] <tatertots> back
[19:39] <tatertots> CheeDinkski u here
[19:39] <chull> f3write/media/ and f3write/media/FIRMWARE  - maybe it filled up his root directory with junk?
[19:40] <Ben64> chull: possible
[19:40] <bizancio> Ben64: thanks! But what's the shortcut for typing that.. I'm trying Ctrl + hift + U + <combination> + letter but it doesn't seem to work
[19:41] <Ben64> bizancio: works here. ǐ
[19:41] <chull> 2015-11-19dmesg.txt  DEADJOE  driver.tar.bz2  sdc1
[19:41] <chull> 2015-11-19lshw.txt   Desktop  r8168-8.040.00
[19:41] <tatertots> How's everyone doing this afternoon? Hope everyone is doing well.
[19:42] <chull> Ben64, i can't pastebin on his computer atm.
[19:42] <Ben64> chull: f3 normally creates files like "1.fff"
[19:42] <ioria> bizancio,     ctrl+shift+alt    02c7
[19:42] <Ben64> look for a bunch of 1GB files
[19:42] <chull> Ben64, yes it was
[19:42] <ioria> bizancio,     ctrl+shift+u    02c7
[19:43] <CheeDinksi> tatertots: I'm back!
[19:43] <tatertots> ah cool
[19:43] <bizancio> ioria: ctrl+shift+u 02c7 worked! thanks.. I'm gonna try the combining one
[19:43] <ioria> bizancio,     oky
[19:43] <tatertots> I'd like to know what modules you have blacklisted CheeDinksi
[19:44] <CheeDinksi> tatertots: Sure thing
[19:44] <Ben64> bizancio: on my system, i have to do the letter first... like a, then do ctrl+shift+u (then let go of shift) then hit 030C, then let go..... result ----> ǎ
[19:44] <tatertots> "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[19:44] <bizancio> Ben64: it works.. thanks! That's what I needed :)
[19:44] <tatertots> that's the location
[19:44] <Ben64> bizancio: :D
[19:45] <tatertots> you can "cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" to see what's blacklisted
[19:45] <tatertots> I wonder if u blacklisted btusb
[19:45] <Ben64> bizancio: you might be able to set up a shortcut that will give you the character and avoid the whole ctrl+shift thing
[19:45] <nacc> Ben64: at least here, you don't need to hold down anything after hitting ctrl+shift+u
[19:45] <CheeDinksi> cat: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: No such file or directory
[19:46] <nacc> Ben64: entered 030c, then hit enter and it changed the a for me
[19:46] <Ben64> nacc: :O that works for me too
[19:46] <nacc> Ben64: TIL! :)
[19:46] <tatertots> try looking in "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf"
[19:46] <eelstrebor> how does one change locale back to english - i don't know how my pc got set for spanish but i can't seem to get back to english - the odd thing is that some stuff is in english and some in spanish
[19:46] <Ben64> used to be i had to hold ctrl+shift the whole time, then on 14.04 i had to let go of shift... apparently i didn't have to hold anything the whole time
[19:47] <ubuntu-confused> I'm looking for a bit of help on a boot issue, I have a pastebin file for anyone who can help.
[19:47] <tatertots> with cat of course
[19:47] <nacc> Ben64: i call that progress! :)
[19:47] <Ben64> yep
[19:48] <chalcedony> Ben64, hes got a file in root sdc1 that is huge! he isnt sure what it is, is it something important? "appears to be a binary file"
[19:48] <Ben64> chalcedony: what is it? run "file" on it
[19:48] <CheeDinksi> http://pastebin.com/kpkKeQzp
[19:50] <tatertots> ok i don't see btusb and that's good
[19:50] <tatertots> means it's not blacklisted
[19:50] <CheeDinksi> One less thing to worry about :)
[19:50] <chalcedony> Ben64, thanks
[19:51] <chalcedony> chull:~# file sdc1
[19:51] <chalcedony> sdc1: x86 boot sector
[19:51] <nacc> seems like a dd outfile
[19:51] <chalcedony> Ben64, heh.. so
[19:51] <Ben64> yeah, drive image
[19:52] <chalcedony> what do we need to do?
[19:52] <Ben64> you should try to find the f3 files
[19:52] <tatertots> can you pull any info about btusb from your system with "modinfo btusb"
[19:53] <Ben64> chalcedony: find / | grep fff$
[19:54] <tatertots> did it show any info?
[19:54] <chalcedony> Ben64, is that the command or ?
[19:55] <chalcedony>  grep "fff"  sdc1  returned 0
[19:56] <CheeDinksi> one sec, sorry
[19:57] <CheeDinksi> filename:       /lib/modules/3.13.0-24-generic/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/btusb.ko
[19:57] <CheeDinksi> modinfo: ERROR: could not get modinfo from 'btusb': No such file or directory
[19:57] <tatertots> ah ok
[19:58] <tatertots> you don't even have the module at all it seams...
[19:58] <tatertots> seems
[19:58] <CheeDinksi> Possible...remember I'm *nix 'special'
[19:59] <tatertots> we need to load that module so we'll work on obtaining it
[19:59] <CheeDinksi> Sounds good
[20:00] <tatertots> that's so weird that it's not on ur system already, it usually is
[20:01] <Archeus> hello ppl
[20:01] <CheeDinksi> I can guarantee one thing, I didn't manually remove it
[20:03] <Archeus> my wifi is not working properly
[20:03] <Archeus> it shows I am connected but am not able to use it
[20:04] <tatertots> do you have linux headers ? if not install them with "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[20:04] <nacc> tatertots: don't have the full history handy, but are you sure the running kernel matches the above path?
[20:05] <CheeDinksi> Doesn't look like I had it...
[20:05] <nacc> tatertots: if not, might need to pass -k
[20:06] <tatertots> :P thanks nacc
[20:08] <tatertots> CheeDinksi you were on like a 3.12 kernel if i'm remembering correctly from this morning correct?
[20:08] <CheeDinksi> yes
[20:09] <CheeDinksi> Linux ubuntu-OptiPlex-740-Enhanced 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:08:14 UTC 2014 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[20:09] <tatertots> I want to share a link with you, however there's only a portion of it that's applicable or important in your situation
[20:10] <CheeDinksi> 3.13, we were close!
[20:10] <tatertots> but i feel u should see this
[20:10] <ikonia> tatertots: who are you talking to
[20:10] <CheeDinksi> As long as it's nothing that can't unseen :)
[20:10] <tatertots> lol
[20:11] <CheeDinksi> can't be*
[20:11] <ikonia> tatertots: if the link is related to ubuntu support thats fine, if not, please don't share
[20:11] <tatertots> I was talking to CheeDinksi ikonia....sorry for not using names consistently guys :P
[20:11] <ikonia> tatertots: not a problem
[20:11] <tatertots> ok here goes
[20:11] <tatertots> http://plugable.com/2014/06/23/plugable-usb-bluetooth-adapter-solving-hfphsp-profile-issues-on-linux
[20:12] <tatertots> just the part in "BOLD" CheeDinksi
[20:12] <CheeDinksi> Ok
[20:12] <tatertots> I'd like for you to have both naming conventions
[20:12] <tatertots> to cover our bases
[20:13] <ikonia> that doesn't looks like the same bluetooth device he's using
[20:13] <CheeDinksi> cp: cannot stat ‘/lib/firmware/brcm/BCM20702A0-0a5c-21e8.hcd’: No such file or directory
[20:13] <ikonia> well no, it woudn't be
[20:13] <tatertots> ikonia did u see my DISCLAIMER...about applicable section for him
[20:13] <ikonia> tatertots: what applicable section ?
[20:13] <tatertots> so don't read too far into it idonia
[20:14] <tatertots> ikonia
[20:14] <ikonia> tatertots: it's totally different hardware ?
[20:14] <CheeDinksi> ikonia: This is from the syslog
[20:14] <CheeDinksi> ubuntu-OptiPlex-740-Enhanced kernel: [  699.713095] usb 2-5: Product: BCM20702A0
[20:15] <tatertots> feel free to find and read all the history going back to this morning and read all his pastebins
[20:15] <tatertots> I'll wait
[20:15] <CheeDinksi> Seems to be the same, no?
[20:15] <ikonia> tatertots: I'm just asking how that links relates to him
[20:15] <ikonia> as the hardware looks totally different
[20:16] <ikonia> (I'm asking not telling)
[20:16] <tatertots> broadcom chipset is what they have in common
[20:16] <ikonia> ok, so you're working from the chipset
[20:17] <tatertots> for example "ralink" makes tons of net adapters wired and wireless from various vendors i.e netgear, dlink ect ect...
[20:17] <tatertots> so the box might say netgear or dlink
[20:17] <ikonia> yes, I see what you're saying, I didn't see the chipset was the same
[20:17] <tatertots> but the chipset
[20:17] <ikonia> hence why I was asking
[20:18] <CheeDinksi> If I knew more, I'd be able to help you helpers...in <gasp> Win, I would just hit the pcidatabase with the hardware id and be in business...here, I'm clueless
[20:18] <tatertots> no worries
[20:18] <binarydepth> I'm having trouble with the configuration of a digitizer, it is working but the click actions are inverted
[20:19] <tatertots> we've just about ruled it down to you not having btusb at all Cheedinksi
[20:19] <CheeDinksi> I'll take your word for it ;)
[20:20] <binarydepth> Where could be this digitizer configured ?
[20:21] <OerHeks> CheeDinksi, i think it is a wifi/BT combo, that BCM20702A0\
[20:22] <CheeDinksi> Possible, but there is no mention of wifi on any of the packaging, cd's, etc
[20:23] <CheeDinksi> The rebrand is Insignia NS-PCY5BMA
[20:24] <CheeDinksi> The biggest pain in the ass $13 will get you :)
[20:26] <tatertots> lol
[20:27] <tatertots> CheeDinksi I know ur on like a 3.12 kernel ...i know if i scroll up i'd see it but what ubuntu version u running ?
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> CheeDinksi  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[20:28] <tatertots> wow got active in here all the sudden
[20:28] <CheeDinksi> 14.04 LTS...that what you mean?
[20:28] <tatertots> yes
[20:29] <CheeDinksi> wow...what the heck just happened
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> CheeDinksi  paste the outcome here
[20:29] <tatertots> would u happen to have access to or be able to download the ISO for a newer/older ubuntu release
[20:29] <CheeDinksi> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[20:30] <tatertots> the reason i ask is that i'd like to see if btusb is available to u when booted from live cd/live usb
[20:30] <CheeDinksi> Yeah, I can go dl a newer version
[20:30] <CheeDinksi> Did you have one in mind, specifically?
[20:30] <tatertots> I have it on my 14.04 not sure why u don't have it on your 14.04
[20:32] <nacc> is it possible that linux-image-extra got uninstalled?
[20:32] <tatertots> it's like btusb just got up and walked out of your box
[20:32] <nacc> it seems unlikely
[20:32] <CheeDinksi> tatertots: I'll have to head back to my office to dl/burn, so if I'm not responding for a bit
[20:32] <barhum2013> I managed to lock myself out of the server and can no longer login via ssh, only through a console online.  I deleted all the ssh keys from the authorized_keys file,  I tried to edit the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file to PermitRootLogin yes  but I still get a Permission denied (publickey) error and no password prompt for root.  Any ideas, please?
[20:33] <tatertots> ok
[20:33] <SirTimesOutALot> barhum2013: do you have physical access to the server or is it in a datacenter / off a cloud provider
[20:34] <barhum2013> SirTimeOutAlot: no, it is a digitalocean droplet, I do have a console in digitalocean
[20:34] <SirTimesOutALot> barhum2013: make sure that Password authentication isnt disabled in VNC I forget the exact config
[20:35] <tatertots> anybody else running 14.04 in here ?....
[20:36] <tatertots> can any other 14.04 users in here get anything from "modinfo btusb"
[20:36] <tatertots> I have it on my 14.04 rig
[20:36] <tatertots> this things been up and running for years though
[20:37] <barhum2013> SirTimesOutALot: https://postimg.org/image/chwfgr7wx/
[20:38] <ubuntu__> Does anybody know where this driver is located 0 inteldrmfb its for /dev/fb0  cann't find it under lsmod so not a module and cann't find it in kallsyms so doesn't look like its a built in kernel function so where the heck is this driving program for the framebuffer?
[20:38] <barhum2013> These are my settings sshd_conifg
[20:38] <nacc> ubuntu__: drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_fbdev.c:
[20:39] <nacc> ubuntu__: as i've told you in the past, you will need to read the kernel source, a grep showed that immediately.
[20:39] <ubuntu__> what is the /proc/fb info its misleading?
[20:39] <OerHeks> misreading*
[20:39] <FMan> Firefox refuses to show that: postimg.org uses an invalid security certificate.
[20:39] <ubuntu__> what
[20:40] <nacc> tatertots: ok, just spun up a trusty lxc container, installed linux-image-generic, `modinfo -k 3.13.0-88-generic btusb` works
[20:40] <ubuntu__> i didn't misread it says   0 inteldrmfb
[20:40] <bekks> FMan: There is nothing we can do about it. Only the maintainer of the website can.
[20:40] <ubuntu__> which from what i take it is  for /dev/fb0  "0" and the name of the driver
[20:40] <nacc> ubuntu__: please re-state your question? you're claiming /proc/fb is wrong?
[20:41] <nacc> ubuntu__: that's not how driver names work.
[20:41] <tatertots> sweet
[20:41] <ubuntu__> yes it says this  0 inteldrmfb
[20:41] <nacc> ubuntu__: please read about the linux kernel, development, the source, something. Your questions don't make any sense.
[20:41] <ubuntu__>  so lsmod doesn't so anything for that name so its not an LKM
[20:41] <nacc> ubuntu__: what says this?
[20:41] <k1l> ubuntu__: and what is wrong with that output of /proc/fb ?
[20:42] <ubuntu__> what is  inteldrmfb ?
[20:42] <bekks> ubuntu__: lsmod shows how many other devices, etc. are use that one particular module currently.
[20:42] <bekks> ubuntu__: "inteldrmfb" is the name of a kernel module, aka "a driver".
[20:42] <ubuntu__> inteldrmfb is not a module
[20:42] <nacc> ubuntu__: inteldrmfb is the 'pretty string' for the intel FB driver
[20:43] <FMan> Intel's DRM for Facebook?
[20:43] <nacc> ubuntu__: as i said, just grep the kernel source and you can see this
[20:43] <tatertots> :P
[20:43] <nacc> ubuntu__: strcpy(info->fix.id, "inteldrmfb");
[20:43] <k1l> ubuntu__: can you please say again what the exact issue is?
[20:43] <ubuntu__> so is  inteldrmfb a c program file or the name of the function that drivers the fb or something else
[20:43] <nacc> ubuntu__: please read the source.
[20:44] <nacc> ubuntu__: it is none of those things.
[20:44] <ubuntu__> i just want to understand what the string info means  0 inteldrmfb
[20:44] <bekks> ubuntu__: I just told you. It is up to you to read what I wrote.
[20:44] <k1l> ubuntu__: inteldrmfb is a framebuffer driver by intel
[20:44] <nacc> ubuntu__: i believe the number is an index, and the string is the fb driver for that index
[20:44] <nacc> ubuntu__: a driver's name != source file name != module name, to be clear
[20:45] <k1l> ubuntu__: again: what exact issue do you have?
[20:45] <nacc> ubuntu__: at least, not necessarily
[20:45] <ubuntu__> where is it located in memory or /proc i don't see it any where  forgetting the source it must compile directly into the kernel , be an LKM
[20:45] <nacc> ubuntu__: you need to read the source.
[20:45] <nacc> ubuntu__: please, just do that.
[20:46] <bekks> ubuntu__: Can you read what I am writing to you?
[20:46] <ikonia> it's been the same for days
[20:46] <k1l> ubuntu__: last time now: what is your exact issue?
[20:46] <ikonia> random questions with no understanding
[20:46] <ikonia> while people try to get the problem out of him
[20:46] <ubuntu__> not in proc/modules either
[20:46] <k1l> ubuntu__: or is it you just seeing things and asking in the wrong places.
[20:46] <ikonia> ubuntu__: what is the problem you are trying to fix
[20:46] <ikonia> ubuntu__: please state it clearly
[20:46] <ikonia> we are not doing your meta-discussion stuff again
[20:46] <OerHeks> we are doing his homework, i guess.
[20:46] <ubuntu__> yes but what is the  0 inteldrmfb is it the name of the module , file , function , what
[20:47] <bekks> ubuntu__: I told you.
[20:47] <nacc> ubuntu__: i literally just told you.
[20:47] <nacc> as did bekks
[20:47] <ikonia> ubuntu__: I'm going to send you a pm - you can't speak at the moment in the channel
[20:48] <k1l> ubuntu__: i dont think you understand what you are asking here. but i suggest you start here:http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/fb/intelfb.txt?id=HEAD
[20:48] <nacc> tatertots: so i'd assume it's an installation issue
[20:48] <tatertots> yeah that's what i'm thinking too nacc
[20:48] <CheeDinksi> tatertots: ubuntu.com must be having issues, i can barely load a page much less dl an image
[20:48] <nacc> tatertots: i'd check the status of the -extra packages on CheeDinksi's machine
[20:49] <nacc> tatertots: make sure it's installed and lists the right files are included (dpkg -L)
[20:50] <CheeDinksi> nacc: was the above installation issue in regards to my mess?
[20:51] <tatertots> hmmm
[20:51] <tatertots> this page pulled up pretty fast for me   http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[20:51] <CheeDinksi> Maybe on our end then...that would make sense, considering the IT roll I'm on...
[20:51] <CheeDinksi> A plane should be crashing into out building in 3, 2, 1...
[20:52] <CheeDinksi> our*
[20:52] <tatertots> lol
[20:52] <CheeDinksi> Before I make the walk back across the plant...i noticed 16.xx, 14.xx and 12.xx available, were you suggesting 16 or 12, or a newer 14.xx version
[20:53] <tatertots> a newer 14.x or 16 would be ideal
[20:53] <CheeDinksi> Ok
[20:54] <vivekp> Just wanted to share this from first hand experience for people who might be interested -- Ubuntu 16.04  (vanilla) is  faster than every other flavour you could try. Take my word for it.
[20:54] <louiz> faster, when?
[20:54] <ikonia> thats just nonsense
[20:55] <vivekp> But high RAM usage issue still persists
[20:55] <ikonia> nope
[20:55] <vivekp> No nonsense
[20:55] <ikonia> vivekp: how did you measure this
[20:55] <louiz> same question
[20:55] <ikonia> vivekp: how have you accounted for hardware and confiuration varidation
[20:55] <tatertots> faster is subjective
[20:55] <nacc> vivekp: that's an opinion, offtopic.
[20:55] <vivekp> I've tried most of the flavour by myself on the same machine
[20:55] <ikonia> vivekp: thats not a measure
[20:55]  * nacc sighs
[20:55] <tatertots> the porche only beats the ford f-250 in the race when 2 tons isn't attached to the back of both vehicles
[20:55] <nacc> CheeDinksi: yeah, was a suggestion to see why btusb is msising
[20:56] <tatertots> sorry for the analogy
[20:56] <tatertots> attach a 2 ton weight to the back of both cars and the ford f-250 wins that race
[20:56] <vivekp> I know it's off-topic thats why I said "for people who might be interested"
[20:56] <makinen> How do I install the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[20:57] <k1l> !ot
[20:57] <nacc> vivekp: that's why there is an #ubuntu-offtopic.
[20:57] <vivekp> And I just wanted to share what I experienced
[20:58] <vivekp> nacc: oh, okay. Never knew about that channel.
[20:58] <makinen> I've installed nvidia-304 package but 'grep nvidia /var/log/Xorg.0.log' gives me nothing
[20:59] <k1l> makinen: rebooted?
[20:59] <makinen> I killed sddm
[21:00] <tatertots> some of u guys have really cool screen names.....i feel like my screen name isn't that cool...it's just tatertots....i do like tater tots though :P
[21:00] <danileigh79> during dist upgrade, info box came up regarding restarting services with new packages and gives me choice of yes or no. I can't select select yes due to left cursor key not working (faulty keyboard), and mouse won't work in infobox. are there any alternatives? (Dell Latitude D530 without Numpad)
[21:00] <makinen> it killed the x server but he new nvidia driver isn't recognized automatically
[21:00] <makinen> the*
[21:01] <cspack> danileigh79: tab key?
[21:01] <vivekp> tatertots: !ot
[21:01] <vivekp>  !ot | tatertots
[21:02] <danileigh79> cspack: thanks, didn't work though
[21:03] <makinen> according to arch wiki I need add a section for nvidia to xorg.conf :F
[21:03] <k1l> makinen: usually you dont on ubuntu
[21:04] <k1l> please try a reboot first to be sure
[21:05] <cspack> danileigh79: do you have a usb keyboard you can plug in? otherwise, just reboot after upgrade is done
[21:06] <danileigh79> cspack: No, no usb keyboard. I'll just reboot after upgrade as you say. Thanks for the help
[21:16] <CheeDinksi> Be right back with 16.04 Live...
[21:18] <steven_> is there a way to force install the base system?
[21:18] <steven_> or a list of packages ?
[21:18] <steven_> my installation is completely broken and I was thinking maybe there was a way to force install the core rather than reinstalling the OS
[21:19] <ikonia> define whats wrong with it
[21:19] <steven_> its completely broken
[21:19] <ikonia> define completely broken
[21:20] <steven_> dpkg throws errors on pretty much every action because "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration"
[21:20] <bekks> steven_: that just one line out of a lot of lines.
[21:21] <steven_> that is the error line bekks :)
[21:21] <bekks> steven_: Pastebin the entire output and provide the URL please.
[21:21] <bekks> steven_: Provide the entire output please.
[21:21] <ikonia> steven_: first tell us the problem, eg: can it not boot, does it crash, you can't install something, you can't remove it
[21:21] <ikonia> then put the details if it's a long set of lines in a pastebin and share the url
[21:22] <steven_> sure, gimme a sec
[21:22] <steven_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17768703/
[21:22] <steven_> apt-get install toilet ^
[21:23] <ikonia> so that doens't look fatal,
[21:24] <bekks> But outdated I guess.
[21:24] <ikonia> and to be honest, how would you do "base reinstall" if you can't use the pacakge manager
[21:24] <ikonia> 3.13 kernel jump to 4.4
[21:24] <ikonia> seems odd
[21:24] <bekks> Yeah.
[21:24] <nacc> steven_: lsb_release -a?
[21:24] <ikonia> I'd do an autoclean and see where that errors
[21:25] <steven_> given that dpkg throws a dependency error I'd assume at some point it messed up dependencies. so one would think reinstalling the base system would reinstall all dependencies
[21:25] <ikonia> then I'd query what release and no doubt what PPA has been installed
[21:25] <ikonia> steven_: how can you re-install if the package manager is blocked
[21:25] <steven_> its xenial
[21:25] <k1l> the question is what happened when the kernel install didnt work
[21:25] <ikonia> it can't be xenial can it ?
[21:25] <makinen> k1l: no luck. now this just fallbacks to 640x480 vesa driver or something like that :P
[21:25] <ikonia> it had a 3 kernel
[21:25] <robert45> alright nacc and reisio THANK YOU! so much for all the help regarding the apt-get/python issue, it was a silly error but you completely saved my life! thanks so much again
[21:25] <nacc> steven_: did you upgrade from 14.04?
[21:25] <steven_> PaganMin: you are like everywhere mate
[21:25] <steven_> stop stalking me
[21:25] <steven_> also nacc yes
[21:25] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | steven_
[21:26] <ikonia> no-one is staling you
[21:26] <k1l> since its already saying that 4 upgrades are in half state. so there was an error before
[21:26] <ikonia> talking
[21:26] <ikonia> stalking even
[21:26] <ikonia> what are you talking about stalking you ?
[21:26] <steven_> ikonia: he is :D
[21:26] <reisio> np dude
[21:26] <PaganMin> steven_, i cannot get over how handsome you are mate
[21:26] <steven_> I know, but the stalking thing is not cool
[21:26] <nacc> robert45: np, glad you're in a good state now
[21:26] <ikonia> steven_: no-one is stalking you
[21:26] <ikonia> just focus on the problem and listen to the help you're getting
[21:26] <steven_> nacc: .. that is not helping me u know? I was asking if there was a way to sorta fix it :)
[21:26] <k1l> makinen: is "linux-generic" installed?
[21:27] <steven_> ikonia: I am serious, he does stalk me but yeah lets focus on the issue (I am looking at you PaganMin ..
[21:27] <robert45> thanks! bye!
[21:27] <bekks> steven_: can you pastebin "sudo apt update" please, too?
[21:27] <ikonia> steven_: how did you upgrade to 16.04 - there is no official 16.04 upgrade path at the moment
[21:27] <ikonia> let me guess you used the "-d" argument
[21:28] <steven_> you are good at guessing ikonia :D
[21:28] <ikonia> why did you do that ?
[21:28] <ikonia> do you know what -d is for ?
[21:28] <steven_> not a prod server, so just went with it. if there was no quick n dirty day to fix it I just reinstall the entire OS
[21:29] <ikonia> sorry - I don't like that approach
[21:29] <steven_> I was just thinking maybe there was, I am running arch on my clients so I am just used to run latest versions without "breaking" cos of upgrade paths :)
[21:29] <k1l> look in the apt logs in /var/log/apt/ what the issue was when you installed that kernel
[21:29] <ikonia> steven_: no you don't need to run the latest versions
[21:29] <ikonia> steven_: and you need to be able to do safe upgrades / installs
[21:29] <ikonia> you've done neither
[21:29] <ikonia> and to be honest you seem really slapdash about fixing it
[21:31] <steven_> I .. I am not? I was asking for help, not for someone to lecture me why I upgraded it? you guys are either help me figure it out, which I would appreciate ofc. or tell me that there is no offical upgrade path so I have to suck it up
[21:31] <k1l> steven_: is this a live system?
[21:31] <hggdh> steven_: if it helps any, I *did* upgrade a server from 14.04 to 16.04, no issues
[21:31] <steven_> its a private play around server, I wouldnt be crazy and do unoffical stuff on production :)
[21:32] <k1l> steven_: "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:32] <ikonia> steven_: there is no official upgrade path
[21:32] <ikonia> steven_: the upgrade path gets released at 16.04.1
[21:33] <steven_> ikonia: I am aware of that :)
[21:33] <k1l> steven_: so go and look at the logs why that kernel install failed in the first place
[21:33] <steven_> k1l: http://termbin.com/93g1
[21:33] <k1l> steven_: then you can fix that and have a woring system again. if you are to lazy for that, then just reinstall.
[21:33] <steven_> Also nice, I wasnt aware of terminbin. thanks :)
[21:35] <steven_> does dpkg / apt have special error logs k1l or should I just go thru dpkg.log?
 look in the apt logs in /var/log/apt/ what the issue was when you installed that kernel
[21:36] <steven_> ah yeah sorry. I am on the webchat. so all of those join / part messages
[21:36] <steven_> just Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:37] <usuario> gi
[21:37] <usuario> oi
[21:38] <basic6_> ubuntu seems to automatically detect the location and switch the language settings, how can this be disabled?
[21:38] <Tatiko> HI!
[21:39] <Tatiko> Who tar no create tarball?
[21:40] <ikonia> Tatiko: ?
[21:40] <Tatiko> ikonia, hot to use tar?
[21:40] <ikonia> to do what ?
[21:41] <Tatiko> ikonia, tar -f name.tar filename    ?
[21:41] <ikonia> Tatiko: "to do what"
[21:41] <Tatiko> I need create tar with all into folder
[21:41] <ikonia> Tatiko: man tar
[21:41] <ikonia> "c" is the create function
[21:43] <CheeDinsky> tatertots:  So my machine doesn't like the 16.04, vid drivers I assume as the gui tears and artifacts to the point I can't really navigate
[21:43] <Tatiko> tar: Refusing to write archive contents to terminal (missing -f option?) tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[21:43] <CheeDinsky> tatertots: But I did notice a bluetooth icon on the menu bar
[21:43] <steven_> D000040: ok 0 msgs >> linux-image-extra-4.4.0-24-generic depends on linux-image-4.4.0-24-generic; however:   Package linux-image-4.4.0-24-generic is not configured yet.
[21:43] <steven_> m
[21:43] <ikonia> Tatiko: what is the exact command you are using
[21:43] <steven_> k1l: ^interesting
[21:43] <tatertots> ah i see
[21:43] <Tatiko> ikonia, sudo tar -c 1.tar ./
[21:43] <k1l> steven_: yes. "sudo apt-get install -f"
[21:44] <CheeDinsky> tatertots:  My day is just about over here, but I'll be back at it tomorrow.
[21:44] <steven_> doesnt work
[21:44] <k1l> steven_: we need to know why the kernel install doesnt work.
[21:44] <tatertots> ur probably gonna have to reinstall
[21:44] <k1l> steven_: is this a vps and it cant install the new kernel?
[21:44] <CheeDinsky> tatertots:  I do want to say thank you once again for you help and patience...that goes for anyone else who had input
[21:44] <steven_> yeah
[21:44] <steven_> its a vps
[21:44] <tatertots> don't know how or why ur system doesn't have btusb but it sounds like the livecd/liveusb did have it
[21:45] <tatertots> probably installation issue
[21:45] <k1l> there are vps technologies that cant change the kernel on the guest os
[21:45] <CheeDinsky> tatertots: I will try a reinstall tomorrow...ok, weird, but I'll see what I can do.
[21:45] <tatertots> no worries
[21:45] <ikonia> steven_: show the output of "uname -a" please
[21:45] <CheeDinsky> Would the adapter need to be plugged in during install?
[21:45] <ikonia> I suspect it's a container
[21:45] <steven_> → uname -a Linux 5-196-110-219.ovh.net 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:45] <CheeDinsky> Something as simple as that?
[21:45] <tatertots> try a newer 14.x version since u were on 14.x
[21:45] <ikonia> there we go
[21:45] <CheeDinsky> Alright
[21:45] <ikonia> so it's running the kernel.....
[21:46] <tatertots> don't reinstall the same version that u had the issue with
[21:46] <CheeDinsky> I won't
[21:46] <Tatiko> ikonia?
[21:46] <ikonia> Tatiko: what ?
[21:46] <Tatiko> ikonia, tar not created
[21:46] <CheeDinsky> Have a good evening all
[21:48] <ikonia> Tatiko: tar cvf /path/to/tarfile /path/to/place/you/want/to/tar
[21:49] <Tatiko> tar -cvf file.tar ./ work i know
[21:49] <Tatiko> ikonia, why just -c no work?
[21:50] <Tatiko> ikonia, ok need c and f thx you!
[21:51] <Tatiko> outdated tar
[21:51] <ikonia> outdated tar ?
[21:51] <ikonia> what do you mean
[21:51] <nacc> Tatiko: if you don't pass -f, it doesn't know where to write the archive, so it tries to write it to the terminal, which you almost certainly don't want.
[21:51] <nacc> Tatiko: exactly as the error message said, btw
[21:52] <Tatiko> nacc, I want terminal
[21:53] <ikonia> I doubt that
[21:53] <nacc> Tatiko: it will output the raw archive bytes to the terminal. YOu don't want htat.
[21:53] <Tatiko> nacc, it no work
[21:54] <tgm4883> which begs the question, why is that even an option?
[21:54] <ikonia> tgm4883: used to be for tape files and default devices
[21:54] <ikonia> tape devices
[21:54] <nacc> Tatiko: 'it'?
[21:54] <tgm4883> fair enough
[21:54] <Tatiko> nacc, I nothing no see in terminal
[21:55] <ikonia> tar cvf
[21:55] <ikonia> include v
[21:55] <Tatiko> ikonia, thx you i know
[21:56] <Tatiko> And how to use xz if need archivate many GB to little size?
[21:56] <ikonia> Tatiko: come on - man tar
[21:56] <ikonia> we've spoon fed you all the options
[21:56] <zerowaitstate> tgm4883: that's so you can pipe the results to a character device. You could, for example, stream it to a serial port instead of a tape
[21:56] <Tatiko> max little
[21:56] <nacc> Tatiko: are you the same person that was Fiji a few days ago?
[21:56] <ikonia> Tatiko: "man tar"
[21:56] <nacc> it sounds *very* similar, and we concluded they were a troll
[21:57] <Tatiko> nacc, no
[21:57] <nacc> well, too harsh, they were trolling :)
[21:57] <Tatiko> ikonia, i lnow
[21:57] <Tatiko> k
[21:57] <nacc> Tatiko: -J
[21:57] <nacc> Tatiko: but as ikonia said, just read the manpages
[21:57] <Tatiko> How to use xz now?
[21:57] <nacc> Tatiko: *read* the man pages.
[21:58] <Tatiko> HEY?
[21:58] <Tatiko> Why you kicked me?
[21:58] <ikonia> Tatiko: because you are not listening
[21:58] <ikonia> Tatiko: "man tar" that will show you the arguments and how to use them
[21:58] <Tatiko> ikonia, i want use stanadlone xz
[21:58] <ikonia> we've explained to you how to use "c" "v" "f" - we are not here to go through every option
[21:59] <ikonia> Tatiko: man "tar" will showyou how to use xz
[21:59] <Tatiko> ikonia, xz -z flename filename
[21:59] <ikonia> please do not ask again
[21:59] <kyle__> Tatiko: did you know man xz also works?
[21:59] <Tatiko> here few options
[21:59] <Tatiko> in --help
[21:59] <kyle__> 🌈The more you know.
[21:59] <ikonia> Tatiko: man xz
[21:59] <k1l> !man | Tatiko
[21:59] <ikonia> Tatiko: it will show all the options and explain them
[22:00] <Tatiko> Need use lzma?
[22:00] <ikonia> Tatiko: you're not making sense
[22:00] <ikonia> you're just saying random command names
[22:00] <nacc> alright, whether they intend to or not, Tatiko is trolling.
[22:00] <k1l> Tatiko: instead of us having to read the manpage to you, you can read it directly. if you have a specific question you can ask here. but waht you do looks like you are just lazy or trolling.
[22:00] <Tatiko> I need a High compression
[22:01] <ikonia> Tatiko: ok - learn how to use the commands then to compress
[22:01] <nacc> Tatiko: what are you compressing?
[22:01] <Tatiko> i read man fuck
[22:01] <riccardo-pc> serie last cop
[22:01] <lucas-arg> any good app already as snap?
[22:01] <riccardo-pc> qualcuno la conosce?!
[22:02] <k1l> lucas-arg: vlc, nextcloud, krita,....
[22:02] <k1l> !it | riccardo-pc
[22:03] <kyle__> I thought xz, like bzip2 and gzip, defaulted to -9, which is the highest compression they do....
[22:03] <ikonia> kyle__: he's trolling, ignore it
[22:03]  * kyle__ shrugs
[22:03] <kyle__> Good point
[22:10] <rockstar____> guys, I have Ubuntu in Dell XPS L502X optimus laptop. Previously HDMI to TV didn't work. So now I got mini-display port. When I plugged in it doesn't do anything. What should I do?
[22:12] <fsh> Hi guys can anybody have a look at my boot info logs pls
[22:12] <ikonia> fsh: why ?
[22:12] <ikonia> whats the actual problem
[22:13] <fsh> My OS isn't booting after a fresh install onto my macbook pro
[22:13] <ikonia> could you explain better than "isn't booting"
[22:13] <fsh> Get a black screen and an error on screen - "missing operating system"
[22:13] <k1l> !macbook
[22:13] <fsh> <3
[22:13] <ikonia> ok - so the boot sector that your boot loader is looking at isn't there
[22:14] <k1l> see the wiki pages on what you need to do to get the apple hardware to work.
[22:16] <_MyStartx_> hmm..
[22:17] <Jordan_U> fsh: What version of Ubuntu? What specific iso file did you use? Did you burn to a DVD or boot via USB?
[22:20] <barhum2013> I managed to look myself out of my server by deleting all the ssh keys.  I have access to the digitalocean console.  I managed to add my key back to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys but I still cannot seem to log in.  I get Permission denied (publickey) error when trying to ssh.
[22:20] <fsh> It's actually ElementaryOS but nobody in that channel replies -.-
[22:21] <Jordan_U> fsh: This channel only supports Ubuntu. Period.
[22:21] <fsh> Oh
[22:22] <Jordan_U> fsh: I exoect that if you install with the standard Ubuntu 16.04 desktop iso you will not have this problem.
[22:23] <fsh> Yeah I was going to see if a plain old ubuntu install would work if I couldn't fix this issue myself
[22:26] <hggdh> barhum2013: check permissions of the ~/ssh and ~/ssh/authorized_keys; also check if you correctly copied your public key
[22:34] <OerHeks>  
[22:42] <johndoe__> #abiword
[22:45] <YankDownUnder> johndoe__, If you want to join that channel, type: /join #abiword
[22:58] <asd_> hi
[23:38] <frib> i keep getting this error processing libssh2-php.  no matter what i do! http://paste.ubuntu.com/17774680/
[23:38] <frib> please help! thank you!
[23:39] <nacc> frib: what version of ubuntu?
[23:39] <frib> nacc, 14.04 on digital ocean
[23:40] <nacc> frib: are you using any PPAs?
[23:41] <frib> nacc, yes
[23:41] <nacc> frib: for PHP?
[23:41] <frib> nacc, i'm not really sure
[23:41] <frib> where can I check?
[23:41] <nacc> frib: can you run `apt-cache policy php5`, `apt update` and pastebin the output
[23:42] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17774854/
[23:43] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17774877/
[23:43] <frib> i upgraded to php7
[23:43] <frib> with ppa
[23:43] <nacc> frib: ah, that's not supported here
[23:43] <nacc> feel free to contact the ppa owner
[23:43] <frib> i dont want support with that
[23:43] <nacc> frib: but breakage like you experience is certainly possible
[23:43] <nacc> frib: installing php7 broke other stuff
[23:44] <nacc> frib: it's the risk you run with using ppas.
[23:44] <nacc> frib: in this case, libssh2-php depends on php5 syntax
[23:44] <gin> frib, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1346581
[23:44] <frib> i dont want php5 or libssh2
[23:44] <frib> can't i just get rid of them?
[23:44] <nacc> frib: you should have gotten rid of php5 and any of its dependencies, first
[23:44] <nacc> then added ondrej's PPA
[23:45] <frib> there's no way to go back now?
[23:45] <nacc> not easily, that package is basically broken on your system (libssh2-php). Maybe someone else can hel you out
[23:45] <nacc> *help
[23:46] <frib> now I can't install or remove any software?
[23:47] <gin> frib, did you even notice the link I gave you few mins ago?
[23:47] <frib> no
[23:47] <gin> scoll up
[23:47] <nacc> gin: that's not the error in question
[23:47] <frib> gin, i already tried that
[23:49] <frib> nacc, if i roll back my system to a snapshot and uninstall php5 first then i won't have problems?
[23:52] <nacc> frib: probably? not sure
[23:53] <nacc> frib: but i would make sure to remove php5 and all dependencies
[23:53] <nacc> frib: meaning remove php5, then run the autoremove that follows it
[23:53] <frib> yeah
[23:54] <frib> ill just try with a new one and see before destroying this one
[23:55] <virgoretti6> I lost all of the packages I installed earlier, and wine isn't installing again...
[23:55] <xangua> ! Details | virgoretti6
[23:56] <frib> nacc, this says it assumes you *are* running php5 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-upgrade-to-php-7-on-ubuntu-14-04
[23:56] <nacc> frib: you'd need to talk to the author, that path isn't supported here
[23:58] <virgoretti6> ubottu how would I use !pastebin?
[23:58] <frib> nacc, in case you're interested apt install php5-fpm fixed the problem
[23:58] <virgoretti6> xangua how would I use !pastebin?
[23:59] <nacc> !pastebin | virgoretti6
[23:59] <nacc> frib: well, yeah, that reinstall php5, which would have brought php5dismod back