[00:31] <bluesabre> flexiondotorg: we are not.
[00:31] <bluesabre> ... as Unit193 already indicated
[00:31] <bluesabre> :)
[09:49] <Unit193> Debian #827792, Debian #827794, https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/numix-icon-theme_0~20160619.217701b-1.html
[09:53] <Unit193> bluesabre, ochosi: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1593038
[10:25] <bluesabre> Unit193: sure would be nice if he'd go ahead and package the other
[10:26] <Unit193> "Other"?
[10:32] <Unit193> bluesabre: gtk-theme is in git, just not NEW yet.
[10:36] <bluesabre> I meant greybird in debian
[10:38] <Unit193> They're unrelated sources, and murrine-themes carries Greybird already.
[10:38] <bluesabre> ah
[10:38] <bluesabre> did not know that
[10:38] <Unit193> Outdated, and same package, but nevertheless.
[10:38] <Unit193> !find Greybird unstable
[10:38] <Unit193> !find Greybird unstable
[10:38] <bluesabre> neat
[10:39]  * bluesabre shuts up
[10:39] <bluesabre> :x
[10:40] <Unit193> Last updated in June, and they have GTK 3.20 already, sooo....
[10:45] <Unit193> Also seems GNOME is willing to test GTK 3.20 Greybird maybe.
[19:14] <Unit193> flocculant: You haven't noticed screen flickering/glitches on Yak right?
[19:25] <flocculant> Unit193: nope - using nouveau 
[19:25] <flocculant> well
[19:25] <flocculant> I see a glitch with ff if page opening in a new tab includes a flash video - but assume that to be ff :)
[19:27] <flocculant> actually - even more specifically - with bbc pages on ff that have a flash video
[19:28] <knome> even more specifically bbc pages on ff that have a flash video about politics
[19:28] <knome> at that point i'd assume it's your brain giving the black flicker...
[19:28] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[19:29] <Unit193> Not a black flicker, it'd be amusing if it didn't happen so often and be so annoying.  I'd equate it to xfwm/x having a seizure.
[19:29] <flocculant> this is black - but pretty sure it's not xfanythingatall :)
[19:30] <Unit193> Get adobe-flashplugin and browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash. :P
[19:31] <Unit193> (...Yes, I typed both out..)
[19:32] <flocculant> Unit193: don't have them here - but did have them here before it all went wrong 2 weeks or so back
[19:32] <Unit193> Just a recommendation or such, not entirely sure they'd help.
[19:33] <flocculant> doing so let's see :)
[19:34] <flocculant> upgraded at the same time
[19:34] <flocculant> initscripts marked as autoremove
[19:46] <pleia2> knome: did you find our distinguished PTL yet? I'm conferencing Sunday - Wednesday next week so it would be good to publish this thing soon
[19:47] <knome> PTL?
[19:47] <knome> pain tolerance level?
[19:48] <pleia2> too much openstack, XPL
[19:48] <knome> no, i didn't find him yet
[19:48] <Unit193> pleia2: Yep, you!
[19:48] <knome> but if he's not around... then just do it
[19:48] <knome> schedule for like tomorrow?
[19:49] <flocculant> knome: I'd say so 
[19:49] <pleia2> Unit193: take it back
[19:49] <flocculant> only xpl to have an xpl - really he's waiting for council to take over :)
[19:49] <knome> who knows...
[19:49] <flocculant> and expires in a week or so again
[19:50] <Unit193> I'm waiting on him for theme discussions.
[19:50] <flocculant> that's a bit different - he'd have a different hat on :)
[19:52] <flocculant> knome: talking of which - perhaps we should actually move on a bit - I guess it'll be you and I moving that forward ... again :p
[19:53] <knome> yes
[19:53] <knome> schedule that for a bit later today or tomorrow
[19:54] <flocculant> I could cope for a while a bit later on today, then continue if we need to
[19:54] <knome> sure
[19:55] <knome> during the next hour or so?
[19:55] <flocculant> need to eat - and I'm behind atm - mother decided I meant 6 when I said 8 - which has put me all over the place ... 
[19:55] <knome> lol
[19:55] <flocculant> by need to eat - read ravenous :p
[19:55] <flocculant> it is cooking though right now
[19:55] <knome> but not all over the place like mr. creosote?
[19:56] <flocculant> no :D
[19:56] <knome> good
[19:56] <knome> let's hope that doesn't happen post-dinner either
[19:57] <flocculant> :)
[19:57] <flocculant> if it does then tomorrow :p
[19:57] <knome> haha
[20:25] <flocculant> knome: anyway - back now if you like
[20:26] <knome> soon
[20:31] <flocculant> hi wxl 
[20:31] <Unit193> (That was a netsplit.)
[20:33] <flocculant> didn't seem like much of one here :p
[20:33] <Unit193> Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: floc culant, sak recoer, dav mor2_HOLS, w x l
[20:35] <flocculant> no difference to the odd bbc black box glitch btw
[20:36] <Unit193> Meh, worth a shot I guess.
[20:36] <flocculant> yup
[20:38] <ax562> so how would I go about helping with testing again?
[20:38]  * knome points ax562 to flocculant 
[20:39] <knome> flocculant, i'm good to go in 15ish once wife is in bed and me on the desktop
[20:39] <flocculant> okey doke - probably best to pm and pad like last time
[20:39] <ax562> I'm about to do a fresh install of xubuntu 16.06 and running 14.04lts with the xfce-environement
[20:40] <ax562> flocculant should I pm you?
[20:41] <flocculant> Unit193: definitely a ff thing - no such thing in chromium
[20:41] <Unit193> ax562: We'd be testing 16.10, .04 is already released.
[20:41] <flocculant> ax562: #xubuntu 
[20:41] <flocculant> I've been running 16.10 since the day after we released 16.04
[20:42] <Unit193> I've been running it ever since I upgraded.
[20:42] <flocculant> later I'll do some 14.04.x to 16.04.1 upgrade testing - and will ask others 
[20:42] <flocculant> Unit193: :)
[20:43] <ax562> cool so right now 16.10 needs testing?  how would one get 16.10
[20:44] <Unit193> ISO, upgrade, or minimal+task.
[20:44] <flocculant> ax562: pretty sure I pointed you at the dev docs the other day
[20:44] <ax562> yeah, i missed one of the links
[20:44] <ax562> hold on let me check
[20:44] <Unit193> flocculant: Point at the most up to date ones! :--D
[20:44] <flocculant> chapters 4-7 are all qa/testing ones
[20:44] <flocculant> http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/
[20:45] <flocculant> also http://wiki.xubuntu.org/qa/isotesting
[20:45] <flocculant> Unit193: not changed anything
[20:45] <flocculant> yet ... 
[20:45] <ax562> http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/
[20:45] <ax562> this is what I should be looking at rigt?
[20:45] <flocculant> read up :)
[20:46] <ax562> ok cool. so 4-7
[20:46] <flocculant> and below that ;)
[20:46] <ax562> is there a video :p
[20:47] <flocculant> nope
[20:47] <flocculant> ax562: but guess what ...
[20:47] <ax562> what?
[20:47] <flocculant> http://dev.xubuntu.org/#tab-details/spec=xubuntu-y-qa
[20:47] <flocculant> see the item David has at the top 
[20:48] <flocculant> nothing to stop you doing that given you want to help :)
[20:48] <ax562> haha ok
[20:49] <ax562> one step at a time though :p
[20:49] <flocculant> well the best people to do something like that - are people who don't do things on autopilot :)
[20:51] <ax562> i don't have a plane so I think i'm good ;)
[20:52] <flocculant> I'm definitely on autopilot - a command grabs the iso's then boots them sequentially with kvm
[20:52] <flocculant> well - updates the iso's
[20:52] <Unit193> Hrm, I should update the ISOs then.
[20:52] <ax562> ah your talking about scripts
[20:53] <Unit193> flocculant: I tried not using the ubiquity hack recently, did not work. :/
[20:53] <flocculant> Unit193: :)
[20:54] <flocculant> ax562: nope http://paste.ubuntu.com/17767276/
[20:55] <flocculant> yes probably krytarik - but it works so *shrug*
[20:55] <ax562> that's pretty cool
[20:55] <flocculant> :)
[21:04] <knome> let's do two things at once
[21:04] <knome> flocculant, the mail to CC (probably doesn't need much work)
[21:04] <knome> pleia2, the #lovexubuntu announcement
[21:04] <pleia2> eh?
[21:04] <knome> pleia2, let's do it now?
[21:05] <knome> i know i said tomorrow... (and it's technically "tomorrow" here now)
[21:05] <pleia2> but we don't have our leader dude
[21:05] <knome> but we haven't seen him in a while and we're moving towards a council anyway
[21:05] <flocculant> pleia2: yep - but ^^
[21:05] <pleia2> ok wfm
[21:06] <flocculant> and 3 or 4 of team have said go for it :)
[21:06] <knome> i don't think it's a biggie for him
[21:06] <knome> he isn't even in the marketing team...
[21:06] <pleia2> indeed :)
[21:06] <flocculant> pseudo-council :)
[21:06] <knome> meh, i need to figure out my ubuntu one password
[21:06] <knome> sec
[21:06] <Unit193> Still, just XPL pleia2, everyone's happy.
[21:06] <flocculant> knome: the CC is easy - send them our plan with a cover note
[21:06] <pleia2> Unit193: I don't even have time to do my marketing duties as well as I'd like
[21:07] <Unit193> pleia2: FWIW, you're just the fun one this week, last time it was slickymaster. :)
[21:07] <pleia2> next time, Unit193 
[21:07] <knome> next time should last for like, 2 years
[21:08] <pleia2> yeah, voluntelling is an important skill in XPL
[21:08] <Unit193> Rules me out.
[21:09] <knome> pleia2, so was there anything we wanted changed in the article, or should i go push it out, then social media?
[21:10] <pleia2> knome: it lgtm
[21:10] <knome> pleia2, ok, publishing when i'm in..
[21:10] <pleia2> I'll do G+ and FB once it's out, then I will take a nap
[21:10] <knome> flocculant, http://pad.ubuntu.com/x-council-cc-mail
[21:10] <knome> flocculant, that's the proposal part (plus some) from the mail to the devel list
[21:11] <knome> needs some tweaks and an introduction
[21:12] <knome> pleia2, https://xubuntu.org/news/looking-memorable-fun-xubuntu-stories/ is out
[21:12] <pleia2> ty sir
[21:12] <knome> and making it an article too so it shows up on the front page
[21:13] <knome> and done
[21:13] <knome> tweeting next...
[21:15] <knome> --> https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/746089144535875585
[21:15] <pleia2> G+ and fb done
[21:25] <knome> flocculant, i'm pretty much fine with it; we could probably tweak it for another hour, but ultimately, it's "just" the CC and we want this to progress ASAP
[21:41] <flocculant> knome: did you say ^^ while I was facepalming at stylish? 
[21:41] <knome> flocculant, ok, sent
[21:42] <knome> flocculant, did i say what? :)
[21:42] <knome> i said ^ ^ to make sure you saw the whole link :D
[21:42] <flocculant>  we could probably tweak it for another hour, but ultimately
[21:42] <knome> right
[21:43] <knome> probably earlier
[21:43] <knome> or later
[21:43] <flocculant> cool - got the cc 
[21:43] <knome> i don't remember
[21:43] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[21:43] <knome> ...
[21:48] <flocculant> right - dreamtime :)
[21:48] <knome> nighty flocculant!
[21:49] <flocculant> knome: all I'd say is I'd like if we can just get as much done as possible, and start moving on - otherwise it'll be 17.04 dev cycle :)
[21:49] <knome> yep
[21:49] <knome> maybe
[21:50] <flocculant> :)
[21:50] <flocculant> anyway - not tonight :)
[21:50] <flocculant> night peeps
[22:13] <ax562> so I would have to dl the 16.10.iso to test correct?
[22:18] <knome> yes
[22:18] <Unit193> I'd of course be interested in responses too.
[22:22] <knome> ax562, note that for the testing to be useful, you will have to follow the steps mentioned in the contributor docs, which will ultimately lead you to reporting a test (or several ones) to the testing trackers
[22:30] <ax562> yeah I created a launchpad, joined the xubuntu group, and was at the iso stage but didn't know which to download
[22:30] <ax562> or do I have to download
[22:30] <knome> ok
[23:05] <ax562> downloading 116.10 :)
[23:31] <Unit193> All of GNOME 3.20 is held up right
[23:31] <Unit193> ?
[23:31] <Unit193> (https://packages.qa.debian.org/e/evince/news/20160623T232718Z.html)