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mwhudsoncan anyone explain to me why golang-defaults is not migrating? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/yakkety/update_excuses.html01:52
infinitymwhudson: Yes.02:29
mwhudsoninfinity: do you think they could manage to do so?02:30
infinitymwhudson: Absolutely.02:30
infinitymwhudson: It's amazing the sorts of things people are capable of.02:31
mwhudsoninfinity: i'm bored of this game now02:32
infinitymwhudson: (What that's trying to tell you, but poorly, is that golang-any-shared-dev is in main, but golang-any is in universe, which I've now fixed)02:32
mwhudsoninfinity: aaaah02:32
infinitymwhudson: See the "binary only movements to main" section in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.txt02:33
mwhudsonwhat, how did that happen? golang-any being in universe?02:33
mwhudsonwas it just left out when the rest of the binary packages were moved?02:33
infinitymwhudson: Because it was always in universe (had no rdeps in main), but a new main package now depends on it.02:33
mwhudsonoh ok02:34
infinityhttp://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results is not filling me with glee.02:36
mwhudsoni'd definitely be being more productive if that was going better :(02:50
ScottKLooks like I should have shorted the pound.03:40
xnoxFUCK04:03
xnoxYakkety Yak04:03
Unit193Don't talk back.04:03
chilukxnox you had better have voted.04:14
xnoxi have04:14
chilukdamn 71.8% turnout... crap, we only get that kind of turnout for the superbowl!04:15
chilukxnox infinity is archive.ubuntu.com abnormally slow right now or is it just me?04:16
pittiGood morning05:52
infinitypitti: It's a dark, sad morning.06:13
pittiinfinity: yeah, was just reading the news :(06:13
pittigo populism06:14
infinityhttp://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GBPUSD%3DX+Interactive#{%22range%22:%225d%22,%22allowChartStacking%22:true}06:19
infinityGood day for a trip to the UK.06:20
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SkuggenHehe, yeah. Wonder how this will turn out06:28
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juliankinfinity: next days might be cheaper, unless parliament suddenly votes to stop the brexit06:53
juliankLet's wait until it hits $106:56
juliank(it was at $1.50 yesterday, now it's at $1.36)06:58
juliankor a "let's ask again, the vote was too close"07:06
maswanwell, they overrode the Boaty McBoatface vote, surely the ycan override somethig with this thin margin07:10
SkuggenThey've declared this will be binding, though07:12
xnoxoh shit07:16
xnoxapperantly cameron might resign in a minute.07:17
sil2100eh07:17
* xnox wants to move to scotland07:17
xnoxsil2100, good morning brexit =) GBP is down to 1985 value07:17
RAOFxnox: Before they secede? ☺07:19
xnoxhe emerged from Nr 1007:20
xnoxlistining now.07:20
xnoxrehearsed speech, very monotonic.07:20
xnoxno immediate change to the eu freedoms07:22
xnoxresigning, no later than October ~= 3 months.07:25
xnoxoh and he spoke to the queen this morning. Knock Knock at 4am, lol =)07:25
juliankxnox: You have two years (max) to move to Scotland, start preparing07:34
juliankThat's how long there can be exit negotiations.07:34
SkuggenUnless they delay handing in their exit notice07:34
juliankTwo years after a request to leave, you're out.07:34
juliankSkuggen: yep07:34
SkuggenSo I suspect they won't do that until Cameron is gone, at least07:34
juliankThey need to negotiate a deal first, otherwise their position is far too weak07:35
RAOFHow does that improve their negotiating position? Their position *is* far too weak.07:37
pittiSkuggen: no, it's not legally binding -- but of course it is practically07:39
pittiCameron called for this referendum, he cannot in good faith ignore it now07:39
juliankRAOF: Once they invoke article 50, they *have* to leave within 2 years, regardless if anything was negotiated.07:39
juliankSo, the EU could just say no to everything, the UK gets nothing, and still has to leave, which they surely don't want.07:40
RAOFjuliank: So the negotiating position is “if you don't give us a good enough deal, we won't leave”?07:40
Skuggenpitti: Well, he's kind of just dumping the result on his successor :)07:40
SkuggenThe UK is a big economy, so the EU will still want to deal with them07:40
juliankRAOF: That makes sense. The UK can just block or delay decisions now in the EU to get what they want07:41
SkuggenIf they give notice, they lose voting rights07:41
juliankNo, only on their exit deals07:42
RAOFjuliank: Oh! So the negotiating position is “if you don't give us a good enough deal, we'll deliberately destroy the EU from within”? Also a winning negotiating position ☺.07:42
juliankThat's their only option.07:42
juliankIt'll be interesting to see if northern ireland and scotland will leave the UK07:43
maswanI hear irish unification has gotten a big push now07:44
juliankOne Ireland07:44
juliankRe-uniting Ireland would be easier than establishing an independent Scotland.07:45
SkuggenMaybe Scotland can join Ireland too :D07:45
SkuggenThe Irish Isles!07:45
juliankSinn Féin already demanded a unity voite07:46
julianks/voite/vote/07:46
juliankOne things for sure: If Scotland leaves the UK, the current Doctor will be the last Scottish one07:53
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rbasaknacc: so what would be the consequences of not pre-depending? I think we need to engineer things (in Ubuntu and also Debian) so that the maintainer scripts do not fail if the ordering is off.10:00
elbrusrbasak: please read my response: the MySQL server may be on a different host10:02
rbasakelbrus: yeah, I get that part.10:02
rbasakelbrus: but if it is on the same host, the maintainer script should still not fail.10:02
elbrusit "doesn't"10:03
rbasakThat's fine then :)10:03
elbrusit will ask the admin how to resolve the situation10:03
elbrusso doesn't fail unless the admin wants that10:04
rbasakOK that sounds good.10:04
elbrusand in non-interactive mode it never fails10:04
elbrusat least: that is the design10:04
elbrusor I should say, it fails, but the admin can opt-out of failure10:05
rbasakThat may lead to excessive bug reports. We essentially get an automated bug report for every maintainer script failure.10:07
elbrusyou then already have them.10:07
rbasakThough if there's something in the report that allows us to detect the reason (eg. a stderr string) we can redirect the report to an existing bug, such as one marked Invalid with an explanation.10:07
elbrusthis behavior exist for > 10 years10:08
elbrusand yes, the error is always reported10:08
pittixnox, tinoco: this time aupkg01 (10.100.0.12) went AWOL; I think/hope I installed kdump on both (so far .13 was the problem child), could you please have a look?10:46
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tinocopitti: hopefully kdump worked this time12:14
tinocopitti: i'll have to install 3270 on the machine i am right now12:14
tinocoit will take sometime to reboot it (fyio)12:14
Saviqpitti, hey, any idea about why my ttys would become empty after a while after boot (maybe after suspend/resume or something)? do you know if there's a bug filed?12:29
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xnoxbdmurray, pitti, arges, slangasek - althrough d-i in xenial-proposed is now validation libdebian-installer for the bug 1582320 is not. Once that is validated d-i can be released.13:07
xnoxs390-tools is now validated please release that.13:07
ubottubug 1582320 in libdebian-installer (Ubuntu Xenial) "libdebian-installer uses a different detection method for EFI than efivar" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158232013:07
xnoxcause i need to do s390-tools SRU + d-i again now for the now resolved FBA bug =)13:07
xnoxbug #158232013:07
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Saviqseb128, any idea why this is still stuck in proposed https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/silo/41 ?13:28
Saviqall of them are Valid candidates13:29
seb128Saviq, seems like they went through in the previous publisher according to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt13:30
seb128Saviq, is there a specific package you were looking at?13:32
Saviqseb128, just waiting for this silo to land13:32
seb128Saviq, I think it's in transit, wait a bit and it should be good13:32
Saviqseb128, ack13:33
Saviqthanks13:33
Saviqyup, it's merging right now :)13:33
seb128great13:33
semiosisi just proposed a merge for bug 1565985.  i'll be around for the next several hours if anyone wants to review/discuss it.  thank you.13:35
ubottubug 1565985 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "vagrant vb ubuntu/xenial64 cannot mount synced folders" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156598513:35
pittiSaviq: "empty"? no, no idea; maybe they don't survive a suspend, I never checked TBH13:46
Saviqpitti, yeah just black13:46
Saviqpitti, anything I could restart to see if they come back? neither console-getty or system-getty seem to be running according to systemctl status13:47
Saviqand I do have the console right no13:47
Saviqw13:47
Saviqhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/17801155/13:48
* Saviq suspends13:48
Saviqhmm now the prompt is there, but all of them say tty1 and I can't type anyway13:50
Saviqso they're stuck13:50
Saviqrestarting system-getty.slice didn't help (right, it's a .slice, that's why systemctl status wasn't doing well)13:51
seb128Saviq, pitti, I had a similar issue on thursday, my vt1-6 had no login prompt until I rebooted (xenial)13:59
Saviqok /me files a bug14:00
seb128thanks14:01
seb128btw did you get the lockscreen issue since yesterday?14:01
pittiça va seb128 !14:03
seb128pitti, oui, et toi ?14:03
pittiseb128: too much sad politics today and it's utterly warm, but otherwise okay :)14:04
seb128yeah, don't have election results on trollday :-/14:05
Saviqseb128, pitti, bug #159596314:08
ubottubug 1595963 in util-linux (Ubuntu) "vt1-6 getting stuck or blank" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159596314:08
pittiprobably more likely to be a systemd/kernel issue, but I'll look at that; thanks for the bug report14:10
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seb128Saviq, thanks14:24
Pharaoh_Atemteward: ?14:29
naccrbasak: yeah, i'm still trying to understand exactly what should happen/ when it works/doesn't work.14:52
naccPharaoh_Atem: there was a bug we were discussing, LP: #157143614:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1571436 in wordpress (Ubuntu Xenial) "Needed update to nginx example config file due to dependency change" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157143614:53
naccPharaoh_Atem: fpm configuration / documentation14:53
Pharaoh_Atemah14:53
Pharaoh_AtemI didn't know we even shipped any nginx configs in Ubuntu14:54
naccPharaoh_Atem: i think it's an example config14:56
Pharaoh_Atemah14:58
naccPharaoh_Atem: may not be something super urgent, but if you could glance, see if it's reasaonble to fix (might need fixing in Debian too) and let me know, that'd be great15:07
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Pharaoh_Atemnacc: sure15:12
Pharaoh_Atemchances are good it probably needs fixing in Debian15:12
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pittidoko: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/267449474/bash_4.3-14ubuntu1.1_source.changes → please build Ubuntu uploads with the ubuntu dpkg-source15:20
slangasekxnox: bug #1582320> test case is in the bug, perhaps you can run it?15:52
ubottubug 1582320 in libdebian-installer (Ubuntu Xenial) "libdebian-installer uses a different detection method for EFI than efivar" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158232015:52
xnoxslangasek, let's see if i can do that on the running system.15:54
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jbichanacc: for bug 1582340, do you want me to go ahead and add the php-xml dependency?17:21
ubottubug 1582340 in drupal7 (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU] Sync drupal7 7.43-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158234017:21
jbichaand since I'm doing that, I might as well pull in 7.44 too for xenial?17:22
naccjbicha: yeah, i guess that's probably reasonable; i['ll work on the php7 issues right after i finish fixing/testing bacula17:25
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slangasekpitti: why is https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-yakkety/yakkety/armhf/o/openafs/20160624_174535@/log.gz (linked from http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#lsb for the moment) not listed on http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/o/openafs/yakkety/armhf/ ?18:23
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