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mwhudson | can anyone explain to me why golang-defaults is not migrating? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/yakkety/update_excuses.html | 01:52 |
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infinity | mwhudson: Yes. | 02:29 |
mwhudson | infinity: do you think they could manage to do so? | 02:30 |
infinity | mwhudson: Absolutely. | 02:30 |
infinity | mwhudson: It's amazing the sorts of things people are capable of. | 02:31 |
mwhudson | infinity: i'm bored of this game now | 02:32 |
infinity | mwhudson: (What that's trying to tell you, but poorly, is that golang-any-shared-dev is in main, but golang-any is in universe, which I've now fixed) | 02:32 |
mwhudson | infinity: aaaah | 02:32 |
infinity | mwhudson: See the "binary only movements to main" section in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.txt | 02:33 |
mwhudson | what, how did that happen? golang-any being in universe? | 02:33 |
mwhudson | was it just left out when the rest of the binary packages were moved? | 02:33 |
infinity | mwhudson: Because it was always in universe (had no rdeps in main), but a new main package now depends on it. | 02:33 |
mwhudson | oh ok | 02:34 |
infinity | http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results is not filling me with glee. | 02:36 |
mwhudson | i'd definitely be being more productive if that was going better :( | 02:50 |
ScottK | Looks like I should have shorted the pound. | 03:40 |
xnox | FUCK | 04:03 |
xnox | Yakkety Yak | 04:03 |
Unit193 | Don't talk back. | 04:03 |
chiluk | xnox you had better have voted. | 04:14 |
xnox | i have | 04:14 |
chiluk | damn 71.8% turnout... crap, we only get that kind of turnout for the superbowl! | 04:15 |
chiluk | xnox infinity is archive.ubuntu.com abnormally slow right now or is it just me? | 04:16 |
pitti | Good morning | 05:52 |
infinity | pitti: It's a dark, sad morning. | 06:13 |
pitti | infinity: yeah, was just reading the news :( | 06:13 |
pitti | go populism | 06:14 |
infinity | http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GBPUSD%3DX+Interactive#{%22range%22:%225d%22,%22allowChartStacking%22:true} | 06:19 |
infinity | Good day for a trip to the UK. | 06:20 |
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Skuggen | Hehe, yeah. Wonder how this will turn out | 06:28 |
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juliank | infinity: next days might be cheaper, unless parliament suddenly votes to stop the brexit | 06:53 |
juliank | Let's wait until it hits $1 | 06:56 |
juliank | (it was at $1.50 yesterday, now it's at $1.36) | 06:58 |
juliank | or a "let's ask again, the vote was too close" | 07:06 |
maswan | well, they overrode the Boaty McBoatface vote, surely the ycan override somethig with this thin margin | 07:10 |
Skuggen | They've declared this will be binding, though | 07:12 |
xnox | oh shit | 07:16 |
xnox | apperantly cameron might resign in a minute. | 07:17 |
sil2100 | eh | 07:17 |
* xnox wants to move to scotland | 07:17 | |
xnox | sil2100, good morning brexit =) GBP is down to 1985 value | 07:17 |
RAOF | xnox: Before they secede? ☺ | 07:19 |
xnox | he emerged from Nr 10 | 07:20 |
xnox | listining now. | 07:20 |
xnox | rehearsed speech, very monotonic. | 07:20 |
xnox | no immediate change to the eu freedoms | 07:22 |
xnox | resigning, no later than October ~= 3 months. | 07:25 |
xnox | oh and he spoke to the queen this morning. Knock Knock at 4am, lol =) | 07:25 |
juliank | xnox: You have two years (max) to move to Scotland, start preparing | 07:34 |
juliank | That's how long there can be exit negotiations. | 07:34 |
Skuggen | Unless they delay handing in their exit notice | 07:34 |
juliank | Two years after a request to leave, you're out. | 07:34 |
juliank | Skuggen: yep | 07:34 |
Skuggen | So I suspect they won't do that until Cameron is gone, at least | 07:34 |
juliank | They need to negotiate a deal first, otherwise their position is far too weak | 07:35 |
RAOF | How does that improve their negotiating position? Their position *is* far too weak. | 07:37 |
pitti | Skuggen: no, it's not legally binding -- but of course it is practically | 07:39 |
pitti | Cameron called for this referendum, he cannot in good faith ignore it now | 07:39 |
juliank | RAOF: Once they invoke article 50, they *have* to leave within 2 years, regardless if anything was negotiated. | 07:39 |
juliank | So, the EU could just say no to everything, the UK gets nothing, and still has to leave, which they surely don't want. | 07:40 |
RAOF | juliank: So the negotiating position is “if you don't give us a good enough deal, we won't leave”? | 07:40 |
Skuggen | pitti: Well, he's kind of just dumping the result on his successor :) | 07:40 |
Skuggen | The UK is a big economy, so the EU will still want to deal with them | 07:40 |
juliank | RAOF: That makes sense. The UK can just block or delay decisions now in the EU to get what they want | 07:41 |
Skuggen | If they give notice, they lose voting rights | 07:41 |
juliank | No, only on their exit deals | 07:42 |
RAOF | juliank: Oh! So the negotiating position is “if you don't give us a good enough deal, we'll deliberately destroy the EU from within”? Also a winning negotiating position ☺. | 07:42 |
juliank | That's their only option. | 07:42 |
juliank | It'll be interesting to see if northern ireland and scotland will leave the UK | 07:43 |
maswan | I hear irish unification has gotten a big push now | 07:44 |
juliank | One Ireland | 07:44 |
juliank | Re-uniting Ireland would be easier than establishing an independent Scotland. | 07:45 |
Skuggen | Maybe Scotland can join Ireland too :D | 07:45 |
Skuggen | The Irish Isles! | 07:45 |
juliank | Sinn Féin already demanded a unity voite | 07:46 |
juliank | s/voite/vote/ | 07:46 |
juliank | One things for sure: If Scotland leaves the UK, the current Doctor will be the last Scottish one | 07:53 |
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rbasak | nacc: so what would be the consequences of not pre-depending? I think we need to engineer things (in Ubuntu and also Debian) so that the maintainer scripts do not fail if the ordering is off. | 10:00 |
elbrus | rbasak: please read my response: the MySQL server may be on a different host | 10:02 |
rbasak | elbrus: yeah, I get that part. | 10:02 |
rbasak | elbrus: but if it is on the same host, the maintainer script should still not fail. | 10:02 |
elbrus | it "doesn't" | 10:03 |
rbasak | That's fine then :) | 10:03 |
elbrus | it will ask the admin how to resolve the situation | 10:03 |
elbrus | so doesn't fail unless the admin wants that | 10:04 |
rbasak | OK that sounds good. | 10:04 |
elbrus | and in non-interactive mode it never fails | 10:04 |
elbrus | at least: that is the design | 10:04 |
elbrus | or I should say, it fails, but the admin can opt-out of failure | 10:05 |
rbasak | That may lead to excessive bug reports. We essentially get an automated bug report for every maintainer script failure. | 10:07 |
elbrus | you then already have them. | 10:07 |
rbasak | Though if there's something in the report that allows us to detect the reason (eg. a stderr string) we can redirect the report to an existing bug, such as one marked Invalid with an explanation. | 10:07 |
elbrus | this behavior exist for > 10 years | 10:08 |
elbrus | and yes, the error is always reported | 10:08 |
pitti | xnox, tinoco: this time aupkg01 (10.100.0.12) went AWOL; I think/hope I installed kdump on both (so far .13 was the problem child), could you please have a look? | 10:46 |
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tinoco | pitti: hopefully kdump worked this time | 12:14 |
tinoco | pitti: i'll have to install 3270 on the machine i am right now | 12:14 |
tinoco | it will take sometime to reboot it (fyio) | 12:14 |
Saviq | pitti, hey, any idea about why my ttys would become empty after a while after boot (maybe after suspend/resume or something)? do you know if there's a bug filed? | 12:29 |
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xnox | bdmurray, pitti, arges, slangasek - althrough d-i in xenial-proposed is now validation libdebian-installer for the bug 1582320 is not. Once that is validated d-i can be released. | 13:07 |
xnox | s390-tools is now validated please release that. | 13:07 |
ubottu | bug 1582320 in libdebian-installer (Ubuntu Xenial) "libdebian-installer uses a different detection method for EFI than efivar" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1582320 | 13:07 |
xnox | cause i need to do s390-tools SRU + d-i again now for the now resolved FBA bug =) | 13:07 |
xnox | bug #1582320 | 13:07 |
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Saviq | seb128, any idea why this is still stuck in proposed https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/silo/41 ? | 13:28 |
Saviq | all of them are Valid candidates | 13:29 |
seb128 | Saviq, seems like they went through in the previous publisher according to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt | 13:30 |
seb128 | Saviq, is there a specific package you were looking at? | 13:32 |
Saviq | seb128, just waiting for this silo to land | 13:32 |
seb128 | Saviq, I think it's in transit, wait a bit and it should be good | 13:32 |
Saviq | seb128, ack | 13:33 |
Saviq | thanks | 13:33 |
Saviq | yup, it's merging right now :) | 13:33 |
seb128 | great | 13:33 |
semiosis | i just proposed a merge for bug 1565985. i'll be around for the next several hours if anyone wants to review/discuss it. thank you. | 13:35 |
ubottu | bug 1565985 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "vagrant vb ubuntu/xenial64 cannot mount synced folders" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1565985 | 13:35 |
pitti | Saviq: "empty"? no, no idea; maybe they don't survive a suspend, I never checked TBH | 13:46 |
Saviq | pitti, yeah just black | 13:46 |
Saviq | pitti, anything I could restart to see if they come back? neither console-getty or system-getty seem to be running according to systemctl status | 13:47 |
Saviq | and I do have the console right no | 13:47 |
Saviq | w | 13:47 |
Saviq | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/17801155/ | 13:48 |
* Saviq suspends | 13:48 | |
Saviq | hmm now the prompt is there, but all of them say tty1 and I can't type anyway | 13:50 |
Saviq | so they're stuck | 13:50 |
Saviq | restarting system-getty.slice didn't help (right, it's a .slice, that's why systemctl status wasn't doing well) | 13:51 |
seb128 | Saviq, pitti, I had a similar issue on thursday, my vt1-6 had no login prompt until I rebooted (xenial) | 13:59 |
Saviq | ok /me files a bug | 14:00 |
seb128 | thanks | 14:01 |
seb128 | btw did you get the lockscreen issue since yesterday? | 14:01 |
pitti | ça va seb128 ! | 14:03 |
seb128 | pitti, oui, et toi ? | 14:03 |
pitti | seb128: too much sad politics today and it's utterly warm, but otherwise okay :) | 14:04 |
seb128 | yeah, don't have election results on trollday :-/ | 14:05 |
Saviq | seb128, pitti, bug #1595963 | 14:08 |
ubottu | bug 1595963 in util-linux (Ubuntu) "vt1-6 getting stuck or blank" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1595963 | 14:08 |
pitti | probably more likely to be a systemd/kernel issue, but I'll look at that; thanks for the bug report | 14:10 |
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seb128 | Saviq, thanks | 14:24 |
Pharaoh_Atem | teward: ? | 14:29 |
nacc | rbasak: yeah, i'm still trying to understand exactly what should happen/ when it works/doesn't work. | 14:52 |
nacc | Pharaoh_Atem: there was a bug we were discussing, LP: #1571436 | 14:53 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1571436 in wordpress (Ubuntu Xenial) "Needed update to nginx example config file due to dependency change" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1571436 | 14:53 |
nacc | Pharaoh_Atem: fpm configuration / documentation | 14:53 |
Pharaoh_Atem | ah | 14:53 |
Pharaoh_Atem | I didn't know we even shipped any nginx configs in Ubuntu | 14:54 |
nacc | Pharaoh_Atem: i think it's an example config | 14:56 |
Pharaoh_Atem | ah | 14:58 |
nacc | Pharaoh_Atem: may not be something super urgent, but if you could glance, see if it's reasaonble to fix (might need fixing in Debian too) and let me know, that'd be great | 15:07 |
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Pharaoh_Atem | nacc: sure | 15:12 |
Pharaoh_Atem | chances are good it probably needs fixing in Debian | 15:12 |
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pitti | doko: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/267449474/bash_4.3-14ubuntu1.1_source.changes → please build Ubuntu uploads with the ubuntu dpkg-source | 15:20 |
slangasek | xnox: bug #1582320> test case is in the bug, perhaps you can run it? | 15:52 |
ubottu | bug 1582320 in libdebian-installer (Ubuntu Xenial) "libdebian-installer uses a different detection method for EFI than efivar" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1582320 | 15:52 |
xnox | slangasek, let's see if i can do that on the running system. | 15:54 |
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jbicha | nacc: for bug 1582340, do you want me to go ahead and add the php-xml dependency? | 17:21 |
ubottu | bug 1582340 in drupal7 (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU] Sync drupal7 7.43-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1582340 | 17:21 |
jbicha | and since I'm doing that, I might as well pull in 7.44 too for xenial? | 17:22 |
nacc | jbicha: yeah, i guess that's probably reasonable; i['ll work on the php7 issues right after i finish fixing/testing bacula | 17:25 |
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slangasek | pitti: why is https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-yakkety/yakkety/armhf/o/openafs/20160624_174535@/log.gz (linked from http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#lsb for the moment) not listed on http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/o/openafs/yakkety/armhf/ ? | 18:23 |
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