[17:24] <pleia2> where has lynorian gone
[17:35] <pleia2> I don't want to wait forever on this, but I think it's an appropriate meeting topic, team logo refresh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/16June26
[17:35] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/16June26 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[17:35] <pleia2> nhaines: since you can't make it to the meeting either, can you chime in on the wiki ^^
[17:35] <pleia2> if leadership agress, I think we can open the discussion to the list
[18:13] <DonkeyHotei> [Fri 2016-06-24 10:24:04 AM PDT] <pleia2> where has lynorian gone
[18:13] <DonkeyHotei> [Fri 2016-06-24 10:35:25 AM PDT] <pleia2> I don't want to wait forever on this, but I think it's an appropriate meeting topic, team logo refresh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/16June26
[18:13] <DonkeyHotei> [Fri 2016-06-24 10:35:37 AM PDT] <pleia2> nhaines: since you can't make it to the meeting either, can you chime in on the wiki ^^
[18:13] <DonkeyHotei> [Fri 2016-06-24 10:35:58 AM PDT] <pleia2> if leadership agress, I think we can open the discussion to the list
[18:13] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/16June26 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[18:20] <lynorian> ty DonkeyHotei
[18:23] <pleia2> lynorian: added your name to and fixed up the formatting for your comment (though you'll be at the meeting, right?)
[18:23] <lynorian> yes sorry
[18:23] <lynorian> yes
[18:24] <pleia2> no need for sorry :)
[22:34] <nhaines> pleia2: the discussion goes on the ML first!  :)
[22:34] <pleia2> nhaines: I didn't want to put out a call for volunteers until we were all on the same page
[22:35] <nhaines> pleia2: agreed, but the discussion about changing the logo goes on the ML first, then on the meeting agenda for a vote. Typically, anyway.
[22:35] <pleia2> ah, I see
[22:36] <nhaines> I had a couple of PoC passes back in 2010, but there wasn't any buy in and I wasn't thrilled with them anyway.  I wonder if I could find them.  Probably not until I get back anyway.
[22:36] <pleia2> I don't remember that, but I had just moved here in 2010 and wasn't very involved
[22:37] <nhaines> I might not have gotten as far as sharing them publically.  Maybe a link or two in the channel.
[22:37] <nhaines> I do recall that the logo's conceit (California silohuette) didn't work well with the new logo's thinner lines.
[22:38] <nhaines> Although one of the prototypes of the current logo had the circle of friends with just the coastline on the outside, and that looked awkward, but that was pre-bear, which might help.
[22:41] <pleia2> nhaines: where is the discussion of colors happening? I was under the impression that the blog post clarifying the new orange was it
[22:41] <pleia2> which is why I chose now to propose a logo change
[22:42] <nhaines> pleia2: it's not.  Occasionally someone (usually Alan Bell) will complain that no one knows what's happening, and then Canonical will say "there's a super important reason that we'll talk about but we're not ready yet and just trust us but we'll talk about it soon."
[22:42] <pleia2> yeah, I thought the blog post was their "talk about it soon"
[22:43] <pleia2> they published that whole new page on colors along with it
[22:43] <pleia2> what more are we waiting for?
[22:43] <nhaines> That was for the Ubuntu SDK UI color palette for programs.
[22:43] <nhaines> Well, I'd like to hear if the colors are screen-use only, or if we're going to get new Pantone numbers.
[22:43] <pleia2> ah, so maybe we should clarify what we're still waiting for?
[22:43] <nhaines> Note to self: grab my documentation and see if the Pantone numbers have changed.
[22:44] <pleia2> I think they are also under the impression that the community questions have been satisfied
[22:44] <nhaines> I'm sure they are.  They were telling the people who weren't satisfied that.
[22:52] <nhaines> pleia2: anyway, I don't plan to block the issue.  I'm just a little unsure of the timing.
[22:53] <pleia2> that's fine, I misunderstood the status of things
[22:53] <nhaines> It's not your fault.  Design changes are one thing Canonical are historically lousy about.
[22:54] <nhaines> We didn't even have new-branded business cards until I *made* some.  Which reminds me, maybe I should get the 3x5 design fixed up and uploaded.
[22:54] <nhaines> sabdfl liked them though!
[22:54]  * pleia2 nods
[22:55] <nhaines> Was a 4 year gap, though!
[23:09] <nhaines> Phone says: 3 reddit messages in your inbox.  Finish lunch.  Phone says: 6 reddit messages.  Wonder what I've said this time.
[23:16] <nhaines> On the bright side, Unicode 9.0 has an avocado emoji, so that's improved my quality of life.
[23:30] <lynorian> yeah I have had lubuntu artwork people have communication and theme breakage as well