[01:22] <ax562> anyone recommend a good virtual machine tutorial for xubuntu?
[01:42] <ax562> damn it.  cpu doesn't support vt-x :(
[01:49] <ali1234> check bios it might be turned off
[01:52] <ax562> nah I checked intel specs
[01:52] <ax562> not supported
[02:38] <ax562> do you guys usually install xubuntu on vm or just try it from iso?
[02:58] <pleia2> ax562: for testing?
[02:58] <ax562> yes
[02:59] <pleia2> I'll get a link to our QA documentation
[02:59] <ax562> i think that's chapter 5
[02:59] <pleia2> ax562: http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/qa-testing.html
[03:00] <ax562> i'm actually on it atm
[03:00] <pleia2> oh ok :)
[03:00] <pleia2> "usually" isn't really a thing, some people do it right on bare metal (I do), others do most of their testing in virtualization
[03:00] <pleia2> and there are tests for both Live and installation
[03:01] <pleia2> if you follow the links to the ISO tracker you'll see different scenarios
[03:01] <pleia2> so for today on the yakkety daily build, you have these options: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/360/builds/123628/testcases
[03:02] <pleia2> 3 of them are install tests, one live session, and some post install tasks
[03:03] <pleia2> the live ones are obviously the easiest since they should leave your installed system intact (I've never had a problem, but this is pre-alpha software, disclaimer here)) but we need all of them done, so the install tests are very valuable
[03:17] <ax562> ah ok pleia2
[03:17] <ax562> well right now im running a vm install of 16.10 on my vm dynamic hdd
[03:18] <ax562> and it's going sloooow
[03:18] <pleia2> yeah, it'll be slow on a vm on a system old enough not to have hardware virt :(
[03:19] <pleia2> you may find bugs that others with faster systems don't encounter though, which is worthwhile
[03:21] <ax562> cool well still trucking ;p
[03:40] <ax562> yakkety is 16.10 right?
[03:41] <Unit193> Aup.
[03:41] <ax562> my vm iso says loading 16.04?
[03:41] <Unit193> That's just plymouth, ignore 'er.
[03:41] <ax562> actually "xubuntu 16.04..."
[03:41] <ax562> ok thanks
[03:41] <ax562> finally finished installing
[03:41] <ax562> ;)
[04:47] <ax562> so far so good :)
[05:00] <ax562> terminal is working great so is firefox
[05:11] <ax562> do I have to add theses ppas
[05:11] <ax562>     Shimmer Themes for daily builds of the Shimmer Project’s projects
[05:11] <ax562>     Xubuntu Staging for packages and package versions that are being prepared for inclusion in Xubuntu
[05:11] <ax562>     Xubuntu daily builds for daily Git and Bzr builds for packages related to Xubuntu and/or Xfce4
[05:16] <flocculant> ax562: no you don't 'have' to add ppa's
[05:16] <ax562> is deb = xdeb in xubuntu universe?
[05:18] <flocculant> not if you're talking about .deb's 
[05:22] <ax562> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/shimmerproject/daily/ubuntu yakkety main 
[05:23] <ax562> the tutorial linked me to add the ppa like this
[05:23] <ax562> but terminal through back error did you mean xdeb
[05:23] <flocculant> did it? got a link to that?
[05:23] <ax562> https://launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/ubuntu/daily
[05:24] <ax562> http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/qa-testing.html
[05:24] <ax562> ^that is what i'm following
[05:24] <ax562> it didn't actually say to add it but it says you will need it
[05:24] <flocculant> ax562: you don't have to use those
[05:24] <ax562> then it linked me to the shimmerproject link
[05:24] <ax562> ok cool
[05:24] <ax562> moving on lol
[05:25] <ax562> i need a cig
[05:25] <flocculant> using ppa's is more for people who run the dev version as a prod setup
[05:26] <ax562> still learning
[05:26] <ax562> what's a prod setup
[05:27] <flocculant> I use yakkety as my normal setup
[05:27] <ax562> kind of like yo0ur daily driver?
[05:28] <flocculant> kind of
[05:28] <ax562> hmmm
[05:28] <ax562> I did so much today lmao
[05:28] <flocculant> :)
[05:29] <ax562> i've literally ran through 3 os's
[05:29] <ax562> partitions left and right
[05:39] <Unit193> Pretty sure he tried that as a commandline...
[05:40] <flocculant> :)
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[11:46] <tracker2> hello
[17:56] <flocculant> knome: on reflecting while depressed today ;) I still think we should move on and call for nominations 
[17:57] <flocculant> one way or the other we'll be wanting to do so regardless
[20:28] <knome> probably, but the candidates do not know what exactly is waiting for them, so i would wait for at least the first ack from CC
[20:28] <knome> again, i can ping the CC to try to speed it up
[20:28] <knome> i mean this shouldn't really take long at all..
[20:32] <knome> anyway
[20:32] <knome> off to sauna
[20:32] <knome> bbl
[21:04] <Unit193> At least there shouldn't be too many things that need team leads this cycle
[21:04] <knome> no, and what's the problem with needing team leads? the team leads still continue their work as usual
[21:04] <Unit193> Hiding. >_>
[21:04] <Unit193> :D
[21:05] <knome> the only thing that is in flux is the XPL spot/structure, and we haven't fortunately needed the XPL to resolve many disagreements lately...
[21:05] <Unit193> knome: I disagree!
[21:05] <knome> but of course you do
[21:05] <knome> but we know how to handle that already
[21:05]  * knome gets the whip
[21:06] <Unit193> :3
[21:57] <Unit193> That deluge issue is fixed, ax562.
[21:58] <ax562> oh cool thanks
[21:58] <ax562> do you know how I can update my iso without downloading a whole new iso?
[21:58] <Unit193> !zsync
[21:58] <ubottu> Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage
[22:05] <ax562> hell yeah
[22:05] <knome> ax562, please remember this is a family-friendly channel...
[22:05] <ax562> that's a beautiful option
[22:05] <ax562> heck yeah :)
[22:05] <knome> meh
[22:06] <knome> if you need to think how else you can say something, then you shouldn't say it at all :P
[22:06] <ax562> i guess
[22:06] <ax562> i was excited 
[22:06] <knome> that's not an excuse though...
[22:07] <ax562> lol
[22:07] <Unit193> You can also rsync.
[22:09] <ax562> Unit193 have you tried rsync?
[22:09] <Unit193> I've used both.
[22:10] <ax562> do you prefer 1 over the other?
[22:11] <Unit193> If you're limited on bw, use zsync.
[22:11] <knome> rsync for backups, zsync for ISOs
[22:12] <ax562> I was reading it was less efficient
[22:12] <ax562> rsync
[22:13] <knome> a friendly tip: don't read everything on everything, you'll end up spending more/all time in reading and trying to optimize rather than get things done (tm)
[22:14] <Unit193> ax562: Try one, try the other, pick which works better for you.  Keep in mind of course that some days more changes on the ISO than other days.
[22:15] <ax562> if there is change I should have fetched correct?
[22:15] <knome> pick the one of which first letter you want to press more often on the keyboard
[22:17] <Unit193> knome: I like the letter 'x'
[22:17] <knome> you can alias either one to xsynz
[22:17] <knome> err
[22:17] <knome> xsync too
[22:34] <pleia2> woo, we got our first story submission :)
[22:34] <knome> indeed
[23:49] <ax562> what\s the best way to check if bug has been reported?
[23:53] <knome> ax562, search launchpad.
[23:54] <knome> ax562, or with common bugs, you can likely find them in the qa trackers' report pages
[23:54] <ax562> thanks