| chuckmcm | Any system where the root boot device is immutable during normal system operation. I know of at least one signage company where the "signage" OS (linux based) is booted from USB, and the "default" system has a copy of windows on it | 00:05 |
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| chuckmcm | the manufacturer for the hardware does all their tests on Windows. But the dedicated signage app is a Linux application. | 00:06 |
| chuckmcm | They create a distro with their app on it on a bootable USB, plug it into the hardware on site and "poof" the sign lights up with their material | 00:07 |
| chuckmcm | the actual hardware is just a PC where the boot order is set to boot USB before the internal hard drive | 00:07 |
| craigbass76 | I'm trying to shrink an ntfs partition from a livecd. Gparted can't do it wihtout ntfs-3g (which I got installed) and ntfsprogs, which when I try apt-get insalling it tells me there's no installation candidate. What's missing? I've only got one 16.04 box in the house and I've not used it much yet | 00:11 |
| soiled | root boot device.. not the root directory of the OS itself? | 00:20 |
| soiled | if i understand correctly you need sudo to install updates to the OS | 00:21 |
| soiled | security patches, etc | 00:21 |
| soiled | craigbass76, i think there's an apt-get feature that lets you search for similar filenames, in case 'ntfsprogs' is a typo of some sort | 00:23 |
| chuckmcm | soiled: depending on what your end goal is, you can remount root rw, update, then remount ro. | 00:23 |
| chuckmcm | (craigbass76 apt-cache search ntfs) | 00:23 |
| soiled | ah alright chuckmcm, thanks. i'll check that out. | 00:24 |
| chuckmcm | however soiled since automatic updates assume a writable root file system and your going to have to change systems tools to work with a read only root file system you won't be able to use existing tools. | 00:24 |
| soiled | ah i couldn't change root from rw to ro if i'm using the flashdrive | 00:25 |
| chuckmcm | Well not and expect all "straight from the distro" tools to work. Sometimes things write back to their /etc directories, or /run etc. You'll no doubt have /run symlinked out to a RAM partition etc. | 00:26 |
| chuckmcm | This is well plowed territory in the embedded linux space so I really think you will want to start there. | 00:27 |
| soiled | ok, i will. thank you. | 00:27 |
| craigbass76 | chuckmcm, hrmmm ntfs-config looked likely, but I'm getting the same message | 00:39 |
| craigbass76 | Thes earen't kernel modules that require a reboot are they? | 00:41 |
| craigbass76 | And I just did this lasst night on another Windows 7 box with the same cd. Weird. | 00:41 |
| chuckmcm | there may be. As I recall I needed to reboot after installing cifs-utils | 00:42 |
| craigbass76 | Ahh. That won't work so well I guess on a livecd | 00:46 |
| craigbass76 | I wish this person would just let me install Xubuntu... | 00:47 |
| chuckmcm | or physically remove the drive and connect it to a system running Xubuntu :-) | 00:50 |
| chuckmcm | I've got one of those USB to SATA/PATA/IDE drive adapters for just such cases. | 00:51 |
| ax562 | anyone recommend a good virtual machine setup tutorial for xubuntu? | 01:36 |
| pleia2 | ax562: have you tried virtualbox? | 01:53 |
| pleia2 | it's slower without virt in the CPU, but it works | 01:53 |
| ax562 | not running windows atm | 01:54 |
| ax562 | that's only windows right? | 01:54 |
| pleia2 | no... | 01:54 |
| pleia2 | I use it on xubuntu all the time, I use the linux version | 01:54 |
| pleia2 | apt-get install virtualbox | 01:55 |
| ax562 | ah is that through ubuntu software center | 01:55 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: You don't use the Windows one inside a Windows kvm? | 01:55 |
| ax562 | no vt-x needed | 01:55 |
| ax562 | ? | 01:55 |
| pleia2 | Unit193: I don't use windows anywhere in any form! | 01:55 |
| ax562 | hahah | 01:55 |
| pleia2 | ax562: if you have vt-x it will use it, but it's not required | 01:56 |
| ax562 | thanks :) | 01:56 |
| pleia2 | you're welcome | 01:56 |
| ax562 | woot | 01:57 |
| ax562 | tiny app | 01:57 |
| ax562 | do you guys usually install xubuntu on vm or just try it from iso? | 02:38 |
| eggggs | for me installs go so fast on xubuntu that i try to install it all and if i crash it reformat | 02:40 |
| ax562 | thanks eggggs | 02:44 |
| ax562 | going really slow btw :/ | 02:44 |
| eggggs | whats going slow ax562 | 02:47 |
| ax562 | my vm install of xubuntu 16.10 | 02:47 |
| eggggs | i think alot of that depends on power of pc and settings of vm , so many variables | 02:48 |
| ax562 | yeah i chose dynamic hdd and also I have crap cpu :/ | 02:48 |
| eggggs | live cds are slow to load but use all ram and full power of pc | 02:49 |
| eggggs | im still learning vm stuff and usually crash the vm ehhe | 02:50 |
| ax562 | haha | 02:51 |
| ax562 | i've run vm before but not often | 02:51 |
| ax562 | i usually just partition hd and install | 02:51 |
| nomad | Hi, does anyone know how to disable or edit the right click context menu in xfce4? | 06:15 |
| nomad | Anyone? | 06:33 |
| flocculant | https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6981 post 10 - not sure if that'll still work with xfce4.12 though | 06:34 |
| pavlushka | nomad: you are new here? | 06:36 |
| nomad | yes | 06:38 |
| nomad | Not the right place? | 06:38 |
| flocculant | nomad: yes it's the right place :) | 06:38 |
| nomad | Disabling the desktop entirely is not an option i need the icons. | 06:39 |
| flocculant | nomad: to be honest I'm not sure there is a simple way to do what you want | 06:40 |
| nomad | If it's not possible to disable the context menu I could live with editing out a few things but i haven't found anything useful on the net. | 06:40 |
| nomad | I wasn't going for easy, flocculant. | 06:40 |
| flocculant | nomad: then you probably need to look into compiling it with things disabled | 06:41 |
| flocculant | you might be better using the xfce forum https://forum.xfce.org/ | 06:42 |
| flocculant | I assume that was you asking the same on askubuntu yesterday? | 06:42 |
| nomad | yes. | 06:42 |
| nomad | Do you know which application provides the context menu? | 06:43 |
| flocculant | nope | 06:44 |
| nomad | ok, then I'll ask the forum, maybe someone knows. | 06:44 |
| nomad | or would the mailing list be a better palce? | 06:45 |
| flocculant | maybe | 06:45 |
| flocculant | both :) | 06:45 |
| nomad | flocculant: thank you for your help. | 07:21 |
| flocculant | nomad: welcome - even if I couldn't much :) | 07:24 |
| ax562 | flocculant I\m back. couldnt sleep | 07:25 |
| ax562 | flocculant running deluge but not working in 16.10 | 07:53 |
| Unit193 | ax562: Bug 1593428 | 08:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1593428 in libtorrent-rasterbar (Ubuntu) "libtorrent incompatible with boost in yakkety" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1593428 | 08:14 |
| ax562 | Unit193 how can I reference that without "bugging" anyone here? | 08:15 |
| Unit193 | Eh? | 08:32 |
| Unit193 | There's a "Affects me too" button at the top of the bug report. | 08:32 |
| ax562 | I mean how can I check if bug has been reported? | 08:32 |
| ax562 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtorrent-rasterbar/+bug/1593428/+choose-affected-product | 09:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1593428 in libtorrent-rasterbar (Ubuntu) "libtorrent incompatible with boost in yakkety" [Medium,Confirmed] | 09:03 |
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| ax562 | hello | 21:57 |
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| ax562 | hi | 23:36 |
| ax562 | what\s the best way to check if bug has been reported? | 23:51 |
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