[00:05] Any system where the root boot device is immutable during normal system operation. I know of at least one signage company where the "signage" OS (linux based) is booted from USB, and the "default" system has a copy of windows on it [00:06] the manufacturer for the hardware does all their tests on Windows. But the dedicated signage app is a Linux application. [00:07] They create a distro with their app on it on a bootable USB, plug it into the hardware on site and "poof" the sign lights up with their material [00:07] the actual hardware is just a PC where the boot order is set to boot USB before the internal hard drive [00:11] I'm trying to shrink an ntfs partition from a livecd. Gparted can't do it wihtout ntfs-3g (which I got installed) and ntfsprogs, which when I try apt-get insalling it tells me there's no installation candidate. What's missing? I've only got one 16.04 box in the house and I've not used it much yet [00:20] root boot device.. not the root directory of the OS itself? [00:21] if i understand correctly you need sudo to install updates to the OS [00:21] security patches, etc [00:23] craigbass76, i think there's an apt-get feature that lets you search for similar filenames, in case 'ntfsprogs' is a typo of some sort [00:23] soiled: depending on what your end goal is, you can remount root rw, update, then remount ro. [00:23] (craigbass76 apt-cache search ntfs) [00:24] ah alright chuckmcm, thanks. i'll check that out. [00:24] however soiled since automatic updates assume a writable root file system and your going to have to change systems tools to work with a read only root file system you won't be able to use existing tools. [00:25] ah i couldn't change root from rw to ro if i'm using the flashdrive [00:26] Well not and expect all "straight from the distro" tools to work. Sometimes things write back to their /etc directories, or /run etc. You'll no doubt have /run symlinked out to a RAM partition etc. [00:27] This is well plowed territory in the embedded linux space so I really think you will want to start there. [00:27] ok, i will. thank you. [00:39] chuckmcm, hrmmm ntfs-config looked likely, but I'm getting the same message [00:41] Thes earen't kernel modules that require a reboot are they? [00:41] And I just did this lasst night on another Windows 7 box with the same cd. Weird. [00:42] there may be. As I recall I needed to reboot after installing cifs-utils [00:46] Ahh. That won't work so well I guess on a livecd [00:47] I wish this person would just let me install Xubuntu... [00:50] or physically remove the drive and connect it to a system running Xubuntu :-) [00:51] I've got one of those USB to SATA/PATA/IDE drive adapters for just such cases. [01:36] anyone recommend a good virtual machine setup tutorial for xubuntu? [01:53] ax562: have you tried virtualbox? [01:53] it's slower without virt in the CPU, but it works [01:54] not running windows atm [01:54] that's only windows right? [01:54] no... [01:54] I use it on xubuntu all the time, I use the linux version [01:55] apt-get install virtualbox [01:55] ah is that through ubuntu software center [01:55] pleia2: You don't use the Windows one inside a Windows kvm? [01:55] no vt-x needed [01:55] ? [01:55] Unit193: I don't use windows anywhere in any form! [01:55] hahah [01:56] ax562: if you have vt-x it will use it, but it's not required [01:56] thanks :) [01:56] you're welcome [01:57] woot [01:57] tiny app [02:38] do you guys usually install xubuntu on vm or just try it from iso? [02:40] for me installs go so fast on xubuntu that i try to install it all and if i crash it reformat [02:44] thanks eggggs [02:44] going really slow btw :/ [02:47] whats going slow ax562 [02:47] my vm install of xubuntu 16.10 [02:48] i think alot of that depends on power of pc and settings of vm , so many variables [02:48] yeah i chose dynamic hdd and also I have crap cpu :/ [02:49] live cds are slow to load but use all ram and full power of pc [02:50] im still learning vm stuff and usually crash the vm ehhe [02:51] haha [02:51] i've run vm before but not often [02:51] i usually just partition hd and install [06:15] Hi, does anyone know how to disable or edit the right click context menu in xfce4? [06:33] Anyone? [06:34] https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6981 post 10 - not sure if that'll still work with xfce4.12 though [06:36] nomad: you are new here? [06:38] yes [06:38] Not the right place? [06:38] nomad: yes it's the right place :) [06:39] Disabling the desktop entirely is not an option i need the icons. [06:40] nomad: to be honest I'm not sure there is a simple way to do what you want [06:40] If it's not possible to disable the context menu I could live with editing out a few things but i haven't found anything useful on the net. [06:40] I wasn't going for easy, flocculant. [06:41] nomad: then you probably need to look into compiling it with things disabled [06:42] you might be better using the xfce forum https://forum.xfce.org/ [06:42] I assume that was you asking the same on askubuntu yesterday? [06:42] yes. [06:43] Do you know which application provides the context menu? [06:44] nope [06:44] ok, then I'll ask the forum, maybe someone knows. [06:45] or would the mailing list be a better palce? [06:45] maybe [06:45] both :) [07:21] flocculant: thank you for your help. [07:24] nomad: welcome - even if I couldn't much :) [07:25] flocculant I\m back. couldnt sleep [07:53] flocculant running deluge but not working in 16.10 [08:14] ax562: Bug 1593428 [08:14] bug 1593428 in libtorrent-rasterbar (Ubuntu) "libtorrent incompatible with boost in yakkety" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1593428 [08:15] Unit193 how can I reference that without "bugging" anyone here? [08:32] Eh? [08:32] There's a "Affects me too" button at the top of the bug report. [08:32] I mean how can I check if bug has been reported? [09:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtorrent-rasterbar/+bug/1593428/+choose-affected-product [09:03] Launchpad bug 1593428 in libtorrent-rasterbar (Ubuntu) "libtorrent incompatible with boost in yakkety" [Medium,Confirmed] === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka === azeam_afk is now known as azeam === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang === azeam_afk is now known as azeam [15:30] does xubuntu still need more ram than vanilla xfce? === mnepton is now known as mneptok === azeam_afk is now known as azeam === y4ns is now known as yans [21:57] hello [23:18] good evening all === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [23:36] hi [23:51] what\s the best way to check if bug has been reported?