[08:49] <Kilos> morning all
[08:53] <paddatrapper> morning Kilos 
[08:53] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper 
[09:12] <Kilos> why must everyone with pc probs use windows
[09:12] <Kilos> sigh
[09:39] <theblazehen> Kilos: if they didn't use Windows they wouldn't have pc problems :)
[09:41] <Kilos> lol
[17:18] <paddatrapper> Kom op Bokke! 
[18:34] <superfly> paddatrapper: what time you going in on Monday morning?
[18:35] <paddatrapper> superfly: early. Aiming to be there at 8
[18:35] <superfly> Cool. At which station do you get on?
[18:54] <paddatrapper> Valsbaai 
[18:55] <paddatrapper> superfly: ^
[18:57] <superfly> paddatrapper: perfect. same here
[18:57] <paddatrapper> Awesome :) 
[18:57] <superfly> paddatrapper: on Friday I took the 0124 (6:53) and got there at 8 on the dot
[18:57] <superfly> (including walk up from Rosebank to Fuller)
[18:59] <paddatrapper> superfly: Ok cool. Then I reckon that will be the best on Monday too
[19:00] <superfly> I hate getting up so early, but having a partner in crime definitely helps. paddatrapper, bring your laptop
[19:00] <Kilos-> lol
[19:00] <Kilos-> hi my fly
[19:01] <superfly> hello Kilos- nice tail
[19:01] <Kilos-> ooops
[19:01] <paddatrapper> superfly: I know the feeling - have to be up at 6 everyday during the term. I'll have it with me for sure 
[19:01] <superfly> paddatrapper: are you in #debconf on OFTC?
[19:01] <paddatrapper> Yup
[19:02] <superfly> paddatrapper: cool. did you see the official DC16 location guide? https://jonathancarter.org/files/debian/debconf/pollito-dc16-guide.pdf
[19:03] <paddatrapper> I saw. Highvoltage did a very good job with it
[19:03] <Kilos> say lo to highvoltage for me please guys
[19:03] <paddatrapper> Will do Kilos
[19:13] <Kilos> eish
[19:14] <Kilos> download asus drivers for xp from asus and get 6 virii as a bonus
[19:19] <Kilos> and then have to register and pay $29 before it activates them
[19:19] <Kilos> ai!
[19:19] <superfly> Kilos: this is why I never install that OS
[19:19] <Kilos> its an old lady superfly 
[19:19] <superfly> Kilos: huh? you should never have to pay for drivers
[19:19] <superfly> if you do, you're on the wrong site
[19:20] <Kilos> oh
[19:20] <superfly> Kilos: even more reason to install Ubuntu :-P
[19:20] <Kilos> she battles with xp already and goes squint when i mention linux
[19:20] <Kilos> hehe
[19:21] <Kilos> how do you find correct drivers that work without a pc scan
[19:21] <Kilos> i tried 4 audio drivers from drivers.com and not one works
[19:22] <Kilos> i hate win
[19:22] <Kilos> and i cant put linux on a pc with 128m ram
[19:23] <Kilos> and the ram is ddr266 which you cant buy anymore
[19:23] <Kilos> sigh
[19:24] <superfly> Kilos: does XP have a device manager?
[19:24] <Kilos> yes
[19:25] <superfly> so open device manager and find out what devices you need drivers for
[19:25] <superfly> Kilos: are you looking for audio drivers?
[19:25] <Kilos> hdmi audio and graphics
[19:25] <superfly> for a laptop?
[19:25] <Kilos> nono p4 desktop
[19:26] <superfly> what's the make and model of the motherboard, do you know?
[19:26] <Kilos> asus
[19:26] <Kilos> sec
[19:27] <Kilos> asus p5vd2-vm s
[19:27] <Kilos> asus p5vd2-vm/s
[19:28] <Kilos> eish and i have 2 of them to do
[19:29] <Kilos> and the asus site app that scans and checks says 22 missing drivers and it sommer installs chrome on its own then tells you chrome is no longer supported
[19:29] <superfly> I found the motherboard page on the ASUS website
[19:31] <Kilos> i have a few links to them
[19:31] <superfly> Kilos: network card driver: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=4&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=9&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[19:31] <Kilos> one of them is the naughty one
[19:31] <Kilos> lemme see
[19:33] <Kilos> ok let me take that link to the desktop and try it ty sir
[19:36] <superfly> Kilos: did you try downloading the drivers from this page? https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P5VD2VM/HelpDesk_Download/
[19:38] <Kilos> i think this one
[19:38] <Kilos> https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj4pam-38PNAhXJDMAKHejwBVAQFggnMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.asus.com%2Fsupport%2FDownload%2F1%2F22%2F31%2F3%2FsrVhgh9xgvo85Xhw%2F24%2F&usg=AFQjCNF9o0LuOGtX8D5Usr6oR487tlaWxg&sig2=pTeF3JowSRdbfOsnVq3mJQ
[19:38] <Kilos> deish
[19:38] <Kilos> google found it
[19:41] <Kilos> let me try your finds, ill feedback ty superfly 
[19:41] <superfly> Kilos: try the second link first
[19:41] <Kilos> ok ty
[19:42] <Kilos> i was at realtech and got 4 that dont work
[20:00] <Kilos> i must be very stupid or those downloads dont work anymore
[20:00] <Kilos> https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P5VD2VM/HelpDesk_Download/
[20:00] <Kilos> i think they dont support xp anymore
[20:01] <Kilos> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=4&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=9&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[20:01] <Kilos> when you tick what os and then go down the list there is no download option
[20:14] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Get to spend almost an entire week on ibid for DebCamp
[20:14] <Kilos> w00000t
[20:14] <Kilos> will be so lekker when we can use it to shorten links again
[20:14] <Kilos> google links that is
[20:16] <paddatrapper> I'll certainly try get it working properly
[20:16] <Kilos> ty very much lad
[20:17] <Kilos> and shake the fly's hand for me when you get on the train with him
[20:17] <Kilos> only one here i have met face to face is the pro
[20:20] <paddatrapper> If only SA was a little smaller...
[20:23] <Kilos> yeah
[20:23] <Kilos> or if i was about 20 years younger and still working
[20:24] <Kilos> i sue to travel to stellenbosch 2 ride in 2 day footup trials nationals
[20:25] <Kilos> s/sue/used
[20:25] <Kilos> superfly your links dont work 
[20:25]  * Kilos cries
[20:25] <Kilos> the have stopped support for xp i think
[20:35] <Kilos> Maaz tell magespawn that prob with rebooting when a cd was put in was caused by a faulty psu
[20:35] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[20:37] <paddatrapper> They have definitely ended XP support,even Microsoft has
[20:38] <Kilos> but they should still supply the drivers the swines
[20:38] <Kilos> not everyone can afford modern pcs
[20:45] <paddatrapper> But older pcs work with Linux much better than they do with Windows
[21:08] <Kilos> nope not with 128m ram
[21:08] <Kilos> xp was light
[21:08] <Kilos> but ill try running kde live and see
[21:09] <Kilos> i couldnt install unity with less than 640m ram
[21:09] <Kilos> but that was on different pc so who knows
[21:22] <Kilos> ai!
[21:24] <paddatrapper> Kilos: oh wow. didn't realise it has THAT little RAM
[21:25] <Kilos> yeah
[21:25] <Kilos> hehe
[21:25] <Kilos> xp is very ram thrifty
[21:25] <paddatrapper> hehe. yeah
[21:25] <Kilos> just got a fright here now
[21:25] <Kilos> for some reason charger stopped working
[21:26] <Kilos> so lappy died
[21:26] <paddatrapper> Eish
[21:26] <Kilos> battery only lasts 2 minutes
[21:26] <paddatrapper> That's a pain...
[21:26] <Kilos> yeah but they cost R1480 here
[21:27] <paddatrapper> that's crazy!
[21:27] <paddatrapper> Half the cost of a new laptop (roughly)
[21:27] <Kilos> yip lenovo dont play in za
[21:27] <Kilos> they $45 in aus
[21:28] <paddatrapper> You'll have to grab one when you eventually get over there
[21:28] <Kilos> that is the plan yes
[21:29] <Kilos> maybe modify my large power supply that i built to charge car batteries and run other 1v stuff so it can supply 19v
[21:30] <Kilos> 12v
[21:33] <paddatrapper> Yeah
[21:34] <paddatrapper> Alright I'm off
[21:34] <paddatrapper> Cheers
[21:34] <Kilos> night lad
[21:34] <Kilos> sleep tight
[22:30] <Kilos> fp
[22:30] <Kilos> night/morning all. sleep well