[09:34] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[09:35] <ducasse> morning, lotuspsychje
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse how are you?
[09:36] <ducasse> good, thanks. got some new hardware yesterday, setting up now :)
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: i was just about to ask about your router :p
[09:37] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: it's really nice :)
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> great to hear
[09:38] <ducasse> the only bad thing is needing wine for winbox. some things are missing from the webui.
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> im usually happy with linksys stuff
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: is there a firmwar upgrade for your device?
[09:41] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: i'm on the latest stable. things like graphing is only implemented in winbox, not in the webui. thinking of setting up mrtg or munin to get that elsewhere.
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> yeah, wine is the last resort :p
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: by the way, i found out about the electro technical degree
[09:43] <ducasse> i don't like to rely on it, so i'm trying to get wverything set up so i can do without. it's the only thing i need it for...
[09:43] <ducasse> oh, what's the deal?
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: the certificate is real and needed, but there's a backdoor for computers lower then 2kilowatt it doesnt need to be proven
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> so laptops,desktop,smartphones i wont need
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> its more for domotica, big clusters,and all stuff higher then 2000watts
[09:46] <ducasse> oh, i see.
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> so im happy :p
[09:46] <ducasse> good :) you should be able to do everything you want to do then.
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> yeah, but still ill avoid the terms 'repair' on customers bills just in case..
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> im thinking of just naming the hardware brand i placed, with install/setup/repair/etc
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> unless its too specific like data recovery or ubuntu install
[09:50] <ducasse> will you be doing support also, over phone etc?
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> no, ill try to do it all from home
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> and setup the system this way, the users wont experience too many issues
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> the only thing im a bit affraid of is for bad updates
[09:51] <ducasse> was just thinking it might bring in some extra funds. many might need support at first.
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> i dont wanna end up with users on black screens
[09:52] <ducasse> i get that :)
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: the main thing i wanna concentrate on is makeovers from win to ubuntu + ssd
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: so they dont need to buy new pc and get a total new experience
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> and cheaper
[09:54] <ducasse> do you think there's a big market for it?
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> ill make one :p
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> ill convince users for it
[09:54] <ducasse> :)
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> there are tons of reasons right, no virusses anymore, no montlhy checkups $$ at pc store, no payed updates,security
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> the only trade is to loose their safe envoriment
[09:56] <Ben64> and no microsoft office
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> yeah also payed
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> and libreoffice got real mature these days Ben64
[09:57] <Ben64> yeah it's great
[09:57] <Ben64> but people haaaate change
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> i know
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> but ppl also like cheap
[09:58] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> so if i could convince a free Os + cheap ssd instead of buying new pc
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[09:59] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje, how are you?
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> great lordievader tnx and you? got new work
[09:59] <Ben64> i gave my mom my old system + ssd
[09:59] <Ben64> works great
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> nice Ben64
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: on windows?
[10:00] <Ben64> ubuntu mate
[10:00] <Ben64> got tired of fixing windows problems
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> great, and does she find her way around?
[10:00] <Ben64> yeah no problems
[10:01] <Ben64> she didn't like unity :)
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: did the same with my 75yo dad, not more windows fixing every month
[10:01] <ducasse> Ben64: i agree with her on that :)
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> the only thing they need is mail and internet and a movieplayer
[10:01] <Ben64> me too
[10:01] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Doing good here :) What is the new job?
[10:01] <Ben64> i think i'll go ubuntu mate here next
[10:02] <Ben64> trying to make ubuntu work for me has gotten harder each time
[10:02] <Ben64> have weird problems with gnome-fallback
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: in the kitchen of le pain quotidien, and started my sideby business now
[10:03] <ducasse> Ben64: out of the desktop environments i liked xfce best, but that's probably a very individual thing.
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> oh by the way, anyone read that article about canonical asking 2 euro to use ubuntu's name on hosting companys?
[10:05] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: no, where did you see that? 2 euro per install?
[10:05] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Ah, quite something different ;)
[10:05] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Do you enjoy it?
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> ive read it in dutch, lets see if i can find something in english
[10:05] <Ben64> i like having a bunch of stuff in my taskbar
[10:05] <Ben64> xfce didn't have the options i wanted
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: yes, its temporary :p
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: https://twitter.com/olesovhcom/status/744609239075799044
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> im gonna use also ubuntu's name on my website, thats why i wondered
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/11/canonical-abused-trademark-law-to-target-a-site-critical-of-ubuntu-privacy/
[10:11] <ducasse> yes, i remember the last one.
[10:12] <ducasse> some days canonical really give a bad impression...
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> i understand the logo part, it should not be confused with users thinking its part of another business
[10:16] <ducasse> no, logos can be difficult.
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> bbl citywalk laterz guys
[10:27] <ducasse> hmmm... the above tweet seems to be because ovh is serving customers modified ubuntu images while still calling it ubuntu...
[10:31] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:30] <Netwolf>  "MISC Microsoft SQL Server communication attempt"
[11:30] <Netwolf>        Source: 123.249.0.151
[11:30] <Netwolf>                   DNS: error-cdnzz-com.cdnzz.net
[11:31] <Netwolf> why is a cdn trying to see if I have sql server port open?
[11:31]  * Netwolf grumbles and ignores the mail alert
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Netwolf, are you in Hong Kong?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> the IP you posted is in HK
[11:41] <Netwolf> BluesKaj: no. Toronto
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Netwolf, oh right, you mentioned that before. I'm 70KM west of Sudbury
[11:42] <Netwolf> Yea, I have a whois lookup and a reverse scan of the host. The IDS automatically starts scanning any incoming packet to the network and reverse scans them. And notifies me
[11:43] <Netwolf> where?
[11:43] <Netwolf> I drove through sudbury once
[11:43] <Netwolf> my ex was from tbay
[11:43] <BluesKaj> small town of Espanola
[11:44] <Netwolf> Would have gone through it when it went up tobomory
[11:44] <Netwolf> ?
[11:44] <Netwolf> Sounds very familiar
[11:44] <Netwolf> I believe I have driven through it enroute back to tdot
[11:45] <Netwolf> nice, a canuck :). And so close :)
[11:45] <BluesKaj> yes if you took the ferry and continued past Manitoulin Island up Hwy6 to Hwy 17
[11:45] <Netwolf> yup
[11:45] <Netwolf> so pretty
[11:45] <Netwolf> feel like an alien landscape
[11:48] <Netwolf> we had a full moon duing the day and with this odd landscape once we got off the boat. Felt surreal
[11:50] <BluesKaj> well it's near where the Cambrian Sheild meets the Crutaceous land mass which severalbillion ys younger than the Sheild, very interesting geologically
[11:51] <BluesKaj> ys=yrs
[11:52] <BluesKaj> and the Niagara Escarpment
[11:59] <Netwolf> I also remember my exs father took up somewhere in tbay to show this massive crator. Apparently the conditions are so different 300 feet below that the entire shubbery is ancient
[11:59] <Netwolf> so cool honestly
[12:00] <Netwolf> I think you might be talking about the same thing
[12:01] <BluesKaj> yeah lake nipigon looks like a huge crater
[12:01] <BluesKaj> thunderbay is far from here
[12:02] <BluesKaj> cretaceous period , better get my facts straight
[12:04] <BluesKaj> thunder bay is over 1000Km  from here, altho it's on the Sheild as well
[12:07] <BluesKaj> anyay i have to check my Xenial install ..bbiab
[20:07] <Marwins> Hi
[21:02] <daftykins> more driveby greetings
[21:08] <Bashing-om> No blood, no bullets. maybe they are the better ?? The good stay .
[21:15] <daftykins> :D