=== Bray90820_ is now known as Bray90820 === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === cc_ is now known as cc === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [03:39] Anyone here use Touch on a Meziu Pro 4? Just wondering if it's any real upgrade over a Nexus4 [03:47] i think i've bricked my aquaris m10 ubuntu edition... it won't turn on (blank screen, holding down power button or power button with combination of volume buttons doesn't seem to do anything) [03:47] any ideas? [04:39] altker128: The Meizu MX4? Yeah, it's much faster than the N4. [04:40] swalladge: How do you think you've bricked it? You might just need to let it charge for a while (strangely). [04:42] RAOF: Do you have an MX4 you're looking to sell? :) [04:43] No; I've got a Canonical one for testing :) [04:43] (Also an M10 that I thought I'd bricked, but it turned out just needed a couple of hours charging before trying to flash it) [04:43] What's your opinion of the MX4? [04:43] (I mean overall) [04:44] RAOF: i was messing around with some system config (tried to change to dm to see what would happen), and after that it stuck on the boot logo [04:44] Then trying to flash it didn't seem to connect properly, now it won't turn on... [04:44] I'll try charging it and see if that helps :) [04:45] swalladge: So, I'd charge it for a couple of hours, then try to get it into fastboot mode (from memory that's holding down volume down when turning it on) and then ubuntu-device-flash. [04:46] Ok [04:47] Hmm no lights on while charging - bad sign? [04:47] Nah, that's not necessarily a problem. [04:47] Mine didn't have any lights, either. [04:48] The system image that provides the charging animation and LED switch-on can be overwritten, and you may well have done that. [04:48] But a full fastboot reflash should get you back the original partitioning and images. [04:53] Ok nice, thanks [04:54] So you use the ubuntu-device-flash, not the bq flash tool? [04:55] Do ubuntu devices have recovery (like twrp for android)? I'm a bit confused on how it's structured [04:58] swalladge: From what I can tell, the Ubuntu touch devices are bootstraped from Android devices, so they re-use the recovery/bootloader, etc. [04:58] swalladge: The image that runs when the device is booted (i.e. Ubuntu Touch OS) is different. But even Android drivers are re-used via libhybris [05:00] Ah right [05:00] So in theory i could flash twrp onto the m10 and use that to flash ubuntu on [05:08] swalladge: I think you need to use the BQ tool, yeah. I can't remember if ubuntu-device-flash will handle the repartitioning etc. [07:17] been charging for few hours, but it still won't turn on [07:18] interestingly, it registers when I plug i into the computer (new full-speed USB device... ttyACM0: USB ACM device) [07:21] swalladge: Yeah, that's going to be it in absolute-bare-bones “you can use the flashing tool” mode. === faenil is now known as faenil_ [08:07] ah right === faenil_ is now known as faenil === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:16] hola [11:16] alguien español? [11:16] most in here speak english [11:17] and the channel for speak spanish ubuntu-touch?? [11:17] i dont know if there is a seperate spanish channel [11:17] okok, sorry guys [11:46] where is the logs for unity8-dash located? i cannot find them in .cache/upstart. for some reason unity8-dash wont start [12:03] RAOF: how do you know when it's in fastbook mode then? (with just a blank screen) [12:03] adb can't find it, and the BQ flashtool isn't connecting... [12:10] ogra_: did you ever take a look at my MP https://code.launchpad.net/~mariogrip/project-rootstock-ng/project-rootstock-ng/+merge/285820 i do not have write access on the "main" branch === ajalkane_ is now known as ajalkane [12:27] Hii [12:28] Libertine apps don't have keyboard on screen? [12:29] Hi [12:29] a question? [12:29] how can i download apps by usb not wifi connection ???? [12:29] is there any idea? [12:31] anybody??? [12:31] aquiles, yes they do, as of OTA-12 (coming very soon) [12:32] how can i download apps by usb not wifi connection ???? [12:32] Mickle: do you mean download it to you computer and transfer it to you phone? then you can use abd [12:32] adb* [12:32] Thanks, bregma :) [12:32] mariogip [12:32] mariogrip [12:33] yeah? [12:33] Actually i wnat to have interent by usb [12:33] i mean can i connect to interent by usb from my comuter [12:33] Mickle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/AdbNetworking [12:34] Sickle, you can use a Lan connection to your computer [12:35] *Mickle [12:35] mariogrip Thank you [12:40] anyone know how long the bq flashtool should take to flash an ubuntu image? mine has been sitting there for over half an hour now, and still says 0 Bytes... [12:42] swalladge: it should not take that long, try to restart it [12:43] There is possible to port loqui im to ubuntu touch ? [12:43] mariogrip: doesn't do anything... :( i think it's dead (pressing buttons doesn't do anything - blank screen, no lights) [12:44] swalladge: if you haven't damaged the phone physically, there is a really small change that it could be dead [12:45] swalladge: try charging it [12:45] any ideas for what i could try? (backstory: messing around with system config in ubuntu touch, became stuck at boot logo, tried flashing but failed (don't know why), and now it's dead) [12:46] i've had it on the charger all afternoon - still dead [12:46] and the battery was around 80% when i was last using it [12:47] can you reboot to fastboot? power + vol up? [12:47] try holding it for a good while [12:48] sometimes the bootloader on some android phones get stuck and something like this might happen [12:48] android/ubuntu touch [12:49] nah can't - even holding buttons down for a whole minute [12:49] Its happen with me and I simple reinstall the ubuntu touch again by adb with my computer [12:50] aquiles: adb won't detect it, and i can't turn it on.... [12:50] swalladge: what bq phone is it? [12:50] the M10 [12:51] What system you using in your computer ? [12:51] swalladge: i don't know about that device, but on my M4.5 i disconnecting the battery helps [12:52] i don't know how the M10 is built, might not be as easy [12:52] alternative is to leave it to the battery dies [12:53] Maybe can be the problem with your computer [12:53] since the bootloader seems to not respond to buttons, there is not much to do other than resetting (power off) the phone [12:53] Drivers.... [12:54] ubuntu does not need drivers [12:54] but since the device does not respond to button press, the computer has nothing to do with it [12:55] i don't think i can take out the battery [12:56] unless there's a reset hole/button? [12:57] swalladge: have you tried just holding the power button? [12:58] yep [12:59] And nothing happens ? [12:59] No light on screen? [12:59] no nothing [13:01] swalladge: what tool did you use? link? [13:02] mariogrip: http://www.mibqyyo.com/en-download/2015/05/22/flash-tools-ubuntu/ [13:02] You using ubuntu on your computer ?? [13:02] swalladge: on ubuntu? [13:02] archlinux.... [13:03] ok, that's fine [13:04] maybe i'll just leave it on charge overnight [13:05] humm, i would let it dischage in hope that it could run out of battery [13:05] and try charge it tomorrow [13:06] You trie to install some sudo apps in m10 device ? [13:06] lol it's going to take a while to run out of battery since it's not likely to be using much in its state [13:06] aquiles: sure did [13:07] you have to experiment with a system like that ;) [13:07] was fun while it worked [13:07] it obviously didn't like my trying to change the display manager though [13:08] You trie to update the devive after that? [13:08] yes [13:08] doesn't explain the bootloader not responding though [13:08] I think its not a hardware problem.. [13:09] Not battery problem [13:09] I think that the problem is with adb on your computer [13:09] could the bootloader have been overwritten somehow when trying to flash? [13:10] But I can be wrong [13:10] aquiles: i've tested on two computers though, and adb works fine with my android phone [13:11] swalladge, ubuntus adb brings proper udev rules for all our devices ... did you perhaps not use the ubuntu adb ? [13:12] mariogrip, hmm, i thought i added you, i have to check that [13:13] ogra_: the device does not respond to button press, so my guess is that bootloader is stuck somehow [13:13] speaking about swalladge's tablet^ [13:13] ouch ... how would one get into such a state [13:14] ogra_, oh didn't think of that. I'm on archlinux, with the officil repo's adb udev rules installed [13:14] (unless you make the device all writable or dd into the MMC or some such awful thigs you should really not be able to trash it like that) [13:14] ogra_: happens to me sometimes [13:15] but, a reset (power off) fix it [13:15] well, sounds like something you should talk to the bq support about [13:15] but, then you have to let it run out of battery, or disconnect the battery [13:15] if there isno bootloader it sounds quite screwed up [13:15] yeah, talk with them [13:16] Yeah ok, i'll do that [13:16] Thanks [13:16] Talk with them [13:16] I don't think the bootloader is modified, i think that it might be an bug with it [13:16] he was using the bq flash tool and i don't think that touches the bootloader [13:17] "the bq flash tool" is some manufacturer tool [13:17] i'm pretty sure it ca completely trash the devie if you use it wrongly [13:17] (which is why we have ubuntu-device-flash ... which isnt able to touch partitioning) [13:18] *can completely trash the device [13:18] well, i don't know, never used it, didn't even know it existed [13:18] (damn, my laptop kbd is giving up) [13:18] :P [13:18] i only know the MTK tool ... [13:18] and that can definitely mess up a lot [13:19] ^ that flash tool uses mtk afaik [13:19] ubuntu explicitly doesnt touch factory partitioning or the bootloader for that reason [13:19] (ubuntu-device-flash that is) [13:19] mariogrip: do you have new FP2 images I can try installing ahead of our call this afternoon? [13:20] humm, how did you find that tool? i thought it was like "samsung keys" for bq [13:20] mhall119: yeah, i'll push them to the devel-rc_proposed channel if that's ok [13:21] mariogrip: bq made it available to allow people with android e4.5/e5 phones to flash ubuntu onto them; as the phones need re-partitioning [13:21] mariogrip: that's find, can I use ubuntu-device-flash to install it? [13:21] it's been a while, so I don't remember the process for using your images [13:21] mhall119: jup [13:21] Websearch - trying to find out official way to flash on a non-ubuntu system [13:22] we need to make ubuntu-device-flash "multi-distro" soon [13:22] it is a static go binary [13:22] it will run on any distro [13:22] those other distros just need to package it [13:22] ok :) [13:23] or i guess you can make a snap of it [13:23] :D [13:23] +1 [13:23] and a flatpak, and rpms, and debs, and tgz, and whatever else :P [13:23] nah, a snap is enough [13:23] that's why we need one and only one package format [13:24] users and developers get so confused [13:24] yeah, the problem is it doesn't work [13:24] Now you tell me... :P maybe i'll make a pkgbuild for it [13:26] mhall119: i'll ping you when it's up there [13:26] Oh its already on the aur... [13:27] the beauty of open source shines [13:30] nontheless a snap would be most awesome [13:31] ogra_: jup [13:37] thanks mariogrip [13:46] mhall119: do you have the old type or new? [13:48] mariogrip: old still, but willing ot give it a try [14:02] mhall119: oh, btw, you need to flash boot manually [14:02] ack, I remember having to do that === olli__ is now known as olli === zulucloud1 is now known as zulucloud [14:38] mhall119: will be up there any minute now: http://system-image.ubports.com/ubuntu-touch/devel_rc-proposed/FP2/ [14:39] mhall119: http://cdimage.ubports.com/ubuntu-touch/mhall/boot.img === willcooke_ is now known as willcooke [15:01] mhall119: it's up now [15:03] mariogrip: charging up the phone now [15:03] ack [15:25] Hi, the 3G connection flips repeatedly on Meizu PRO 5 [15:26] HSPA and 4G too [15:26] yeps [15:26] see this - what do? [15:26] (at least the icons are ... not sure the connection actually does after all) [15:26] It's pretty unusable, Internet browsing unusable [15:26] start with filing a bug [15:27] well, there is dozens of them on Meizu PRO 5 [15:27] (i seem to have no issues despite the icons changing or canishing) [15:27] basically nothing works as expected [15:27] *vanishing [15:28] apps are crashing, UI is sluggish, memory usage high, Internet connection drops, etc [15:28] awe_, ^^ do we have any explicit NM bugs open for the pro5 ? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [15:29] ogra_, not that I'm aware of... [15:30] connections are definitely rather jumpy ... [15:30] ogra_, that sounds like a modem issue though; NM doesn't have anything to do with the bearer technology [15:30] (for non wlan ) [15:30] ah [15:30] ogra_, also.. I was never given one, so can't be of much help [15:30] ouch ! [15:30] might want to check with abeato [15:31] Are modem firmware updates also delivered over the air updates? [15:31] no [15:31] and when can we expect next update for PRO5? [15:31] OTA update? [15:31] when OTA12 is released [15:31] OTAs come every 6 weeks [15:32] but i dont think anyone is aware of modem firmware issues ... so you would firsthave to report them, and then someone debug and fix it [15:37] whenever I call with Meizu PRO5 the other end says they can't hear me well [15:38] in the browser GIF-s trigger wierd artifacts so whole page fills with garbage [15:38] I mean the list is pretty much endless [15:41] dunno, doesnt feel like that to me ... and i use it as my daily driver [15:41] ogra_: Which OS version you have installed? [15:41] OTA-11? [15:41] there are definitely issues (and they are expected) ... but i would surely not cal it "andless" [15:41] *endless [15:42] i'm on rc-proposed ... so i should have what you get with the next OTA [15:42] ogra_: How do I install/enable that? [15:43] well, i think the next OTA is due next week, you should only run rc-proposed if you can manage issues like an unbootable device if something breaks etc [15:43] alrighty, I guess I can wait until next week :D [15:43] have a look at the system-image-cli command on th device ... specifically at the --switch option [15:43] it lets you switch back and forth between channels [15:44] thanks [15:54] seb128: hi! I'm stealing bug 1289401 from you, do you mind? [15:54] seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+bug/1289401 [15:54] bug 1289401 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) ""Accounts" has an inappropriate icon" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1289401 [15:55] mardy, oh, please do [16:01] mhall119: how did it go? [16:02] mariogrip: still trying to get the phone to charge, it evidently didn't like the cable it was on [16:03] mhall119: ack [16:03] just blinking red now [16:23] jhodapp hi! Can an app get info about what Music app is playing? [16:25] mivoligo___, not currently, I just landed some changes that enable MPRIS support out of media-hub for use by indicator-sound, but this has not made it up to the Qt/QML layer yet [16:27] Thanks. So there is a chance for that in the future, right? What about controlling playback, would that be allowed? [16:28] i would assume there would have to be an extra apparmour policy for it? [16:28] maybe one with manual review... otherwise 'bad' apps can spy on what you are playing or could spam next() next() etc [16:28] mivoligo___, yes that'd be something we'd add for the future (knowing what's currently playing) but controlling playback is doubtful...what's your use case for that? [16:29] mhall119: i see one minor problem, it does not charge correcly in ubuntu, so if you have low battery it will die pretty quick [16:30] jhodapp, someone reported this bug/enhancement for Night Clock and I was wondering if I'll be able to implement this https://bugs.launchpad.net/night-clock/+bug/1596457 [16:30] Launchpad bug 1596457 in Night Clock "View "Currently playing" music track" [Wishlist,New] [16:32] mivoligo___, so they want it just as a slightly more interesting space filler for your app? [16:32] Looks like it 😀 [16:33] jhodapp, well it'd be like having the info and controls on the lock screen.... but instead in the night clock [16:33] ahayzen, right [16:33] both of which would be awesome :-) [16:35] ahayzen, for sure, I want media controls on the lock screen as well [16:49] mariogrip: oh, right, there was something I had to do to make it charge, IIRC [16:50] mhall119: it's missing the usb init on the android side, it needs to be fixed from build i think [16:50] i'll upload new image soon [16:53] o/ mariogrip [16:55] ahoneybun: Hey ho :D [16:56] Heyo === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [17:28] Hii [17:29] Someone knows if facebook-purple works with pidgin in ubuntu touch ? [17:33] if it works on a PC, it should work ok when running pidgin in libertine i guess. but i wouldn't recommend running pidgin on your phone [17:35] Why not? [17:39] I already install pidgin with libertine but then I'm unable to use the aplication because libertine don't have a keyboard on screen for legacy apps [17:45] because pidgin isn't designed to be useful on touch-input devices. and i think the x apps running under libertine still are confined by the application life cycle [17:45] aquiles: osk works in rc-proposed channel now [17:47] Thanks, mhall119 [17:54] Right now I and others don't have any option to use facebook and whatsapp in Ubuntu touch [17:54] Only can works with pidgin maybe [17:56] I has read about the possibility to port loqui im from firefox os to Ubuntu touch [17:56] Any comment about that? [17:57] i don't think it will provide a satisfactory solution for most people who use whatsapp [17:57] but if the firefox-spcific pieces can be replaced so that it runs under cordova, it could be a standard html5 app in the store [17:59] For me it will be very satisfactory if just works [18:00] I liked telegram [18:00] But my family and friends all use whatsapp [18:01] Facebook same story [18:02] I don't bleave that facebook and whatsapp will do official apps for ubuntu touch [18:02] Not for now [18:02] they can't own your system, so probably never [18:03] But we need alternatives [18:03] you will have to manually refresh whatsapp to get new messages [18:03] they don't support push notification on ubuntu === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [18:04] telegram is an alternative. signal is an alternative. sms is an "alternative" :P [18:06] mariogrip: sorry, had to drop out, the mounting explosion of dialogs killed me [18:06] Yeah [18:07] mhall119: my network died [18:08] mhall119: did it mount eveything :P [18:08] heh, perfectly times failures then :) [18:08] mariogrip: it ws trying to [18:08] then the phone battery died [18:08] :P evil bug [18:09] Dobey, do you if someone is interested to port loqui im to Ubuntu touch? [18:09] *know [18:09] aquiles: there has been discussion of it on github [18:11] Okay === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [19:39] mhall119: seems that i found out what memory/panic issue was [19:42] mhall119: humm, runst pretty well now :D === kalikiana_ is now known as kalikiana [19:48] mhall119: is it ok that i send it to you as an .img? [19:49] it's easier that way, or i can make an easier way to push to the server [19:49] (if you want to wait) [20:02] mariogrip: sure [20:04] mhall119: uploading the .img now [20:06] to the system image server? [20:07] to you [20:08] /my dropox [20:08] so you can flash using a simple script === Bray90820_ is now known as Bray90820 [20:09] so, just to clarify how the "temp fix" work, when you look the screen it looks like it freezes but the phone "thinks" the screen is on. so if the screen "freezes" just press the power button to wake it up [20:09] lock not look*** [20:10] mhall119: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/fp2-mhallfix.tar.xz [20:11] and just run the script that is with it from recovery, ./replace-android-system system.img [20:12] but, here mobile network does not work, it was something with it that caused the "kernel panic" [20:14] that's okay, until the screen issue is fixed I won't be leaving wifi range with it anyway :) [20:14] mhall119: :) [20:16] mariogrip: ok, ran the script, how do I tellif it worked? [20:16] it reboots [20:16] it did, and I'm in ubuntu [20:16] :D [20:17] no wifi though [20:18] no charging when connected to USB on my laptop either [20:18] hum? both does for me, humm let me try installing from the server and reproduse what you did [20:19] got adb? [20:19] while the batter lasts [20:20] the indicator shows it in flight mode,but the switch for that is off [20:22] hi [20:23] screen lag is still there too, so I will need that newer hardware anyway [20:25] mhall119: are you sure it's just not "locking" the device? it looks like it freezes then [20:26] might be [20:26] nevermind, it just did it to me now [20:26] mariogrip: I've got to run out for a bit, but I'll be around later [20:26] mhall119: I'll get everything working untill ur back :D :D [21:04] has anyone had a problem with the m10 freezing up when plugging ina speaker jack? [21:04] it happened the first time I tried it. did not happen again right after === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === salem_ is now known as _salem === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === TheRealJohnGalt is now known as TheRealFreenode === TheRealFreenode is now known as TheRealJohnGalt [22:50] mhall119: back? [23:34] mhall119: btw, here is the newest image (with wifi and cell) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/FP2.tar.xz [23:34] remeber to flash boot.img [23:34] btw, they are also on the system-server [23:34] you need to flash boot.img anyway [23:39] mariogrip, image for what? or of what? [23:47] SebthreeBQM10HD: fairphone 2 [23:50] mariogrip, oh right I see [23:50] mariogrip, are you the guy doing unoffical ports to other phones? yeah? [23:50] SebthreeBQM10HD: Jup