[00:05] <Seveas> perl -mEncode=decode -E 'say decode('utf8', "௦") =~ /^\d+$/'
[00:05] <Seveas> 1
[00:06] <Seveas> that's not a normal 0 :)
[00:26] <nathalie> hello everz body
[00:27] <nathalie> wich command i need to do for report this https://launchpadlibrarian.net/268065212/JournalErrors.txt
[00:36] <Raf> hey
[00:38] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[00:40] <ubuntu-mate> why i cant change developer options settings?
[00:42] <ubuntu-mate> ?????
[00:43] <Ben64> explain
[00:44] <ubuntu-mate> file:///home/ubuntu-mate/Desktop/Screenshot%20at%202016-06-27%2000:44:13.png
[00:45] <ubuntu-mate> in software & updates settings i cant change developer options tik
[00:47] <ubuntu588> hi
[00:47] <ubuntu588> is there any body to help?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> ubuntu588: Totally depends on the issue .
[00:48] <ubuntu588> in software & updates settings i cant change developer options tik
[00:49] <maks__> 3
[00:49] <ubuntu379> ?
[00:50] <ubuntu379> how can i fix it? is it normall?
[00:52] <ubuntu379> i need help
[00:53] <ubuntu379> hey???
[00:53] <htns> hey ubuntu379
[00:54] <OerHeks> 3 different names, and a local screenshot that we cannot read
[00:54] <ubuntu379> why icant change developer options settings?
[00:55] <OerHeks> can you post that screenshot @ imgur?
[00:55] <OerHeks> !paste
[00:56] <jlander> hola
[00:56] <ubuntu379> https://i.imgsafe.org/079ae74917.png
[00:57] <OerHeks> it is enabled now
[00:58] <jlander> can you help with a hd ?
[00:58] <ubuntu379> It should be disable?
[00:59] <OerHeks> Well, there is a certain risc about it, you *really* need a reason to use it.
[01:00] <OerHeks> proposed are often used with pinning, for test purpose i guess.
[01:00] <ubuntu379> yes.i want to disable it.but i cant change.
[01:01] <OerHeks> ubuntu379, see the 1st tab, you should be able to disable them there,...
[01:02] <OerHeks> hmm, not sure, i am not on mate desktop
[01:03] <ubuntu379> cant.
[01:08] <Jordan_U> ubuntu379: Please pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.lst and the output of "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/".
[01:09] <Carzar> WHY I SEE PASSWORD ON MY LOCKSCREEN!?!?
[01:10] <bazhang> Carzar, change it in settings
[01:10] <Carzar> How to?
[01:10] <bazhang> Carzar, in display settings
[01:11] <Guest88936> Hello
[01:11] <Carzar> What display settings? I have a problem with the lockscreen
[01:11] <Guest88936> im looking for a good source to learn about linux  OS
[01:12] <bazhang> Carzar, display settings is where to change it
[01:12] <Guest88936> im newbie in  linux  and i want to switch from windows to linux
[01:12] <Guest88936> any opinions ?
[01:12] <bazhang> !rute | Guest88936
[01:12] <Carzar> I in Displays and not see this option
[01:12] <bazhang> read those links material Guest88936
[01:13] <Bashing-om> !manual | Guest88936
[01:13] <Guest88936> thanks a lot  bazhang
[01:13] <Carzar> I NOT SEE IT
[01:13] <bazhang> Guest88936, general linux help in ##linux , hereis ubuntu support
[01:13] <bazhang> Carzar, no caps
[01:13] <Carzar> Where?
[01:14] <Guest88936> im using ubuntu
[01:14] <bazhang> !manual | Guest88936
[01:14] <bazhang> try that as well Guest88936
[01:15] <Carzar> bazhang, ?
[01:15] <Guest88936> Carzar, click on the power icon on the right corner > about this computer > then click on Settings
[01:15] <Carzar> bazhang, help me plz I  am better
[01:16] <Carzar> Ш тще ыуу
[01:16] <Carzar> I not see
[01:16] <ironhoof> Hi I installed 16.04 on my netbook 16.04 but I dont think this is varient dependant, because the try worked. It booted up after install full graphics; but i did an update it rebooted and it sits on a blank screen. doesnt respond to key presses. Unles si go into recovery and drop down to terminal thats fine. This Atom n450 how can I correct it?
[01:16] <Guest88936> Carzar, i already told ya how to display the setting section
[01:16] <ironmig> Can mention me or send message to test notification? Thanks!
[01:16] <somsip> !test | ironmig
[01:17] <Carzar> I in "Displays" here no
[01:17] <inerkick> Hi, Is there any live todo list wallpaper in Ubuntu. Just like Blotter calendar on Mac OS X wallpaper
[01:17] <Carzar> Brighthess & Lock ---NO
[01:17] <Carzar> Appearance ---NO
[01:18] <bazhang> inerkick, there might be something for gnome-shell on their extensions site
[01:18] <jlander> i need help
[01:18] <bazhang> Carzar, what version of ubuntu is this
[01:18] <inerkick> some thing as Blotter calendar ? bazhang .
[01:19] <Carzar> 16.04
[01:19] <bazhang> inerkick, no idea, you need to check that site
[01:19] <bazhang> Carzar, and what DE
[01:19] <inerkick> ok thanks
[01:19] <Carzar> Unity
[01:20] <bazhang> Carzar, is this MINT
[01:20] <Carzar> UBUNTU
[01:20] <Carzar> DEFAULT
[01:20] <bazhang> Carzar, then its where we said, in the settings
[01:20] <Carzar> DO you have it?
[01:20] <bazhang> yes
[01:20] <Carzar> what patch?
[01:20] <Carzar> full patch
[01:21] <bazhang> none
[01:21] <Carzar> ???
[01:21] <bazhang> Carzar, standart unity same as you
[01:21] <Carzar> Button Search you copmputer then?
[01:21] <Carzar> What need find?
[01:21] <bazhang> no, in settings
[01:22] <Carzar> Where?
[01:22] <Carzar> Systrm Settings?
[01:23] <Carzar> I in System Settings
[01:23] <bazhang> yes
[01:23] <Carzar> and now ?
[01:23] <Carzar> many buttons
[01:23] <bazhang> click on display
[01:23] <Carzar> Displays?
[01:23] <jlander> can you help me?
[01:23] <Carzar> "Displays"
[01:23] <bazhang> jlander, ask a question
[01:24] <Carzar> I in Displays and now?
[01:24] <jlander> i can't mount a partition
[01:24] <Bashing-om> jlander: We can not help til we know the issue .
[01:24] <jlander> mm
[01:24] <bazhang> jlander, give us the full details on one line
[01:24] <Carzar> bazhag, Sticky edges?
[01:25] <Carzar> bazhag, ?
[01:26] <Carzar> bazhag, ???
[01:26] <Carzar> bazhang, ???
[01:26] <Carzar> I NOT SEE OPTION FOT IT!
[01:26] <Carzar> FOR
[01:26] <bazhang> Carzar, you seem to have a non standard system settings
[01:27] <Carzar> Defoult installation
[01:27] <jlander> I have a Hd with xfs filesystem for record tv programs, today some was wrong recording and I plug the HD to pc with linux. Before I delete some files and empty trash folder, I can mount the partition and the TV can't play de disk either
[01:27] <bazhang> Carzar, stop using all caps
[01:27] <Carzar> I notjing no add and no updated
[01:27] <Carzar> OK
[01:27] <Carzar> ok
[01:27] <Carzar> help plz
[01:28] <Carzar> Give your window photo please
[01:28] <jlander> I'm glad if you tell me some terminal command
[01:29] <bazhang> !patience | Carzar
[01:29] <bazhang> post your issue every 10 minutes Carzar not every five seconds
[01:31] <Carzar> bazhang, http://imgdepo.com/id/i9399087
[01:32] <Guest88936> /whois ubottu
[01:32] <somsip> !bot | Guest88936
[01:32] <Carzar> bazhang, ,
[01:32] <Guest88936> thanks
[01:33] <Carzar> baz?
[01:33] <Guest88936> i used to make bots :p
[01:33] <bazhang> Carzar, no need to repost so soon, every ten minutes is fine
[01:35] <Carzar> Guest?
[01:35] <Carzar> No this button
[01:36] <Carzar> Deskto
[01:36] <Guest88936> yes mate
[01:36] <Carzar> p
[01:36] <Carzar> Unity
[01:36] <Bashing-om> jlander: What returns ' sudo parted -l ; sudo sudo blkid -c /dev/null -o list ' in a pastebin site .  We see if the drive is seen by the operating system .
[01:37] <jlander> ok
[01:37] <ironhoof> hmm seems to be freezing at activating swap.
[01:39] <rahtgaz> Can someone help me finish Redmine instalaltion. I've installed it already from Synaptic along with postgres support and the passenger package. I can see the postgres database was created. But I can't start Redmine just yet from localhost:3000. What do I need to do nxt?
[01:39] <jlander> Bashing-om:  sudo parted -l hangs
[01:39] <jlander> and hd led remains on
[01:40] <Bashing-om> jlander: Ouch .. that is not good // try ' sudo fdisk -lu ' .
[01:40] <jlander> ok
[01:40] <jlander> how can I kill the process?
[01:41] <jlander> ctrl+x?
[01:41] <Bashing-om> jlander: Try key combo ctl+d .
[01:41] <jlander> don't works
[01:42] <Bashing-om> jlander: ctl+c ??
[01:42] <jlander> either
[01:43] <Bashing-om> jlander: open a new terminal .. and run ' ps aux ' . do you see the process ID in the output ?
[01:45] <jlander> mm
[01:45] <jlander> ot     13897  0.0  0.1   4540  3520 ?        D    03:37   0:00 parted
[01:47] <Carzar> Why my nick changed?
[01:47] <jlander> i see a lot of process
[01:47] <Bashing-om> jlander: ' sudo killall parted ' .
[01:47] <Carzar> Guest88936, ?
[01:47] <Carzar> Where you?
[01:48] <jlander> ok
[01:49] <jlander> Bashing-om:  i tip sudo fdsik -lu
[01:50] <Carzar_> Help pleas
[01:50] <ex32> Carzar :s
[01:50] <Bashing-om> jlander: K .. we need to know that the drive is recognizable .
[01:51] <jlander> http://pastebin.com/nDEX5iT0
[01:51] <jlander> partitions corrupted is sdc6
[01:55] <jlander> Bashing-om:
[01:56] <jlander> http://pastebin.com/mVS6ME3b
[01:57] <Bashing-om> jlander: Think'n .. show now ' mount ' in a pastebin . We see what results when we mount that partition manually .
[01:58] <jlander> well
[01:58] <jlander> have you see that say (in use)?
[01:59] <jlander> http://pastebin.com/EJmxygtH
[02:00] <Bashing-om> jlander: Do not know what I will see .. if the sdc6 partiton is mounted .. we can then look at it directly .
[02:02] <jlander> file explorer says: An unspecified error has occurred: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[02:04] <Bashing-om> jlander: Not presently mounted . do: ' sudo mkdir /mnt/look ; sudo mount /dev/sdc6 /mnt/look ; ls -al /mnt/look/ ' . Files all intact ? .. when done looking, we MUST UNmount what we mounted .
[02:06] <jlander> ok
[02:07] <jlander> i tip
[02:08] <jlander> sudo mkdir /mnt/look
[02:08] <jlander> and
[02:08] <jlander> when tip sudo mount /dev/sdc6
[02:08] <jlander> mount: can't find /dev/sdc6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:10] <jlander> sudo mount /dev/sdc6 /mnt/look
[02:10] <jlander> hangs
[02:12] <jlander> Bashing-om:
[02:13] <Bashing-om> jlander: " tip sudo mount /dev/sdc6 " I do not understand what top refers to . Please explain .
[02:13] <jair> Hello there, I followed the following instructions => https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[02:14] <Bashing-om> jlander: top/tip*
[02:14] <jair> but now after rebooting my gnome ubuntu 16.04 I press the power button and I just get a very limited menu with the option of power off nothing else, no option to choose hibernate
[02:15] <jlander> i'm hang with: sudo mount /dev/sdc6  /mnt/look
[02:16] <jlander> sudo mount /dev/sdc6 mount: can't find /dev/sdc6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:16] <Dexx1_> New Install. Everything works fine, except when I restart, the screen is black and I cannot login. My only option is to hold the power button and hard-reboot, then it works. Ideas?
[02:17] <jlander> Bashing-om:
[02:17] <Bashing-om> jlander: If you made the mount point " sudo mkdir /mnt/look " and now try " sudo mount /dev/sdc6 /mnt/look " and it hangs .. we are looking at checking the hard drive health and then running a file system check from a liveDVD(USB) .
[02:19] <jlander> this hd has another partition and works fine
[02:20] <Bashing-om> jlander: Sorry then, I am out of ideas . ' Unmount the attempt ' sudo umount /dev/sdc6 ' .
[02:21] <jlander> umount: /dev/sdc6: not mounted
[02:23] <Bashing-om> jlander: Good deal . I do not know else to advise other than check the drive and the file system .
[02:23] <jlander> how
[02:25] <Bashing-om> jlander: ' sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdc ' .
[02:28] <OerHeks> i have a note for xfs > sudo apt-get install libguestfs-xfs partman-xfs xfslibs-dev xfsprogs
[02:29] <jlander> http://pastebin.com/Q7nd0S9k
[02:29] <Bashing-om> jlander: reading .. see OerHeks ups .
[02:30] <OerHeks> might need a reboot or at least logout/login i guess
[02:30] <noraatepernos> http://pastie.org/10891289 Can someone suggest why this is occurring?  This is a digital ocean droplet I’m using as a web server.  Do I need fonts?
[02:31] <jlander> oerherks?
[02:31] <noraatepernos> This is on Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS.
[02:35] <Bashing-om> jlander: OerHeks : UnGood " 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       3 " OerHeks, thoughts ?
[02:36] <odroid> hello
[02:37] <odroid> does anyone know why firefox is not working on my odroid c2 using ubuntu?
[02:41] <bipul> Hello i am getting this error message
[02:41] <bipul> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:41] <bipul>  nginx-light
[02:42] <bipul>  nginx
[02:42] <bipul> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:42] <OerHeks> Bashing-om, jlander is this after installing those tools and reboot?
[02:45] <bipul> How to get back /etc/source.list ?
[02:45] <bipul> ./etc/apt/sources.list*
[02:49] <Bashing-om> bipul: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ <-Ubuntu Sources.List Generator .
[02:51] <Bashing-om> bipul: However, your current source should be fixable . show in a pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' .
[02:53] <bipul> How to fix this issue  nginx-core
[02:53] <bipul>  nginx
[02:53] <bipul> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:54] <Bashing-om> bipul:  show in a pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' so we get the error in context, then we see what it takes to fix .
[02:56] <OerHeks> bipul, maybe update first?
[02:57] <OerHeks> or the error is not complete ..
[03:03] <bipul> OerHeks, I had removed NIGINX forcefully it might be because of that, i did sudo service nginx stop; sudo rm -rf /etc/nginx; sudo apt-get --purge remove nginx;
[03:03] <bipul> After that i started installing nginx again, but i was getting that  error messages.
[03:04] <bipul> Again and gain. :(
[03:05] <bipul> OerHeks, http://paste.ubuntu.net/17949692/
[03:05] <pistle> guys I have somehow jacked up an applicatioon on xubuntu...I had docky installed and was adding a docklet to it and it disappeared. I tried to restart it from the menu but nothing happens. So I removed it and reinstalled it...still nothing happens...its in the menu, in the usr/share/applications folder...but it won't open
[03:06] <OerHeks> bipul, i guess nginx is still running, the error is clear, type: systemctl status nginx.service
[03:06] <OerHeks> without sudo.
[03:06] <pistle> when i type "docky" into the terminal it gives me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/17949728/
[03:06] <pistle> it had been working fine for weeks so I don't know what I did
[03:07] <OerHeks> bipul, i guess nginx is still running, the error is clear, type: systemctl stop nginx.service #systemctl disable nginx.service # now uninstall
[03:07] <bipul> ok
[03:07] <bipul> or may be i should kill the pid of nginx
[03:07] <pistle> in software center is says "install" as if its not installed...but when you choose that it asks if I really want to remove it...not making sense
[03:08] <pistle> i tried purging everything and starting over...same problems
[03:08] <bipul> OerHeks, http://paste.ubuntu.net/17949818/
[03:08] <bipul> Seems like it's not running
[03:09] <OerHeks> bipul, it is loaded, not active
[03:09] <bipul> Yes that's why i am unable to found the process ID
[03:09] <OerHeks> so stop it, disable it, then remove/reinstall whatever.
[03:09] <bipul> So what to do now?
[03:10] <OerHeks> systemctl stop nginx.service
[03:10] <OerHeks> systemctl disable nginx.service
[03:11] <bipul> same error
[03:12] <pistle> today was such a good day in xubuntu land for me...now this
[03:12] <pistle> spoke too soon
[03:17] <pistle> can anyone help me with the docky problem?
[03:20] <moon__> Hello
[03:21] <pistle> anyone?
[03:22] <moon__> what do you need
[03:23] <pistle> i had an application disappear...
[03:23] <pistle> but its still listed in software center...and was in usr/share/applications but I purged it in terminal
[03:24] <pistle> things are acting very wonky and I can't seem to fully remove it and reinstall it
[03:24] <pistle> it's docky...and it was working fine...I was adding a docklet to it and it disappeared from the desktop
[03:25] <pistle> and I can't get software center to display its status properly...but cannot reinstall it either
[03:26] <pistle> i have purged and autocleaned and updated...no help
[03:26] <pistle> dont know what to do now
[03:26] <pistle> everything was working great...then blammo
[03:36] <tomasbond> chapo
[03:36] <django_> hey what does ths do: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:36] <django_> does it do fresh install?
[03:38] <Guest33824> i don't have any virtual terminals
[03:42] <craptalk> how can i download video on ubuntu from another source rather than youtube by using youtube-dl?
[03:42] <craptalk> i tried wget but i only got its html data file, or meta data
[03:47] <somsip> craptalk: what url is the video on?
[03:47] <craptalk> i got it from streamable
[03:48] <craptalk> somsip: you want the link source
[03:48] <craptalk> ?
[03:48] <somsip> craptalk: yes.
[03:48] <craptalk> somsi: https://streamable.com/6dm5
[03:49] <craptalk> somsip: the point is how can i download any video from any source rather than youtube?
[03:49] <craptalk> please help
[03:49] <somsip> craptalk: right click and "save video as" works here in chrome and firefox
[03:50] <somsip> craptalk: depends on the site, which is why i asked for the URL
[03:50] <craptalk> somsip: if the site aint having that ability? what should i do?
[03:51] <somsip> craptalk: something else. Too many possibilities to list. Some browsers have something like "get as curl' in the developer toolbar. that might help sometimes
[03:52] <Yuri4_> Guys, how do I make sure the nobody left a SSH key on the server to login in the future?
[03:52] <craptalk> somsip: if that the case then what  to do after that? i like using command line but with what command line?
[03:52] <somsip> craptalk: the one the developer toolbar gives you
[03:52] <nealshire> is there a fast way of performing a command as another users?
[03:53] <somsip> nealshire: sudo -u {user} {command}
[03:53] <Guest33824> i don't have any virtual terminals
[03:54] <craptalk> somsip: what happen if you have video url? and what the most given toolbar by developer out there?
[03:54] <nealshire> somsip, its initially coming from a user not in the sudoers file
[03:54] <somsip> craptalk: I believe most common browsers have a builtin nowadays. Or use Firebug, which I believe works on most browsers
[03:55] <somsip> nealshire: you cant do it if you dont have sudo rights
[03:55] <nealshire> will su [sudoer user] [password] [command] work?
[03:55] <somsip> nealshire: dont know. The command I gave you will.
[03:56] <nealshire> well I gotta have superuser for apt-get. should I just exit the session and login as a sudoer?
[03:56] <somsip> nealshire: depends if you want to login as the other user, or run a command as that user, AIUI
[03:56] <nealshire> trying to install apache webserver onto a limited account...
[03:57] <somsip> nealshire: apache has it's own user - www-data
[03:57] <nealshire> I am not sure what the best way to do that would be
[03:57] <nealshire> ah
[03:57] <somsip> nealshire: install as root, run as a service
[03:58] <somsip> nealshire: add your limited user to www-data group, change the webroot to chgrp -R www-data && chmod g+s so anything written in there is accessible to user and apache
[04:04] <pistle> can someone help me with an app that suddenly stopped working? I have purged, reinstalled etc and no joy
[04:04] <MeltingFiction> pistle, what app?
[04:05] <pistle> MeltingFiction: Docky...the dock....it was set up and fine for months...I was going to add a "docklet" from its settings menu and in the middle of that it disappeared
[04:05] <pistle> it was still in the menu and the usr/share/applications folder...but wouldn't launch
[04:06] <somsip> pistle: run from command line and check for errors, check /var/log/conky.log (if there is one) for errors
[04:06] <pistle> gnomse software center seemed unsure if it was installed or not and showed the wrong buttons...so I purged everything....
[04:06] <pistle> I don't know how to check for errors
[04:06] <pistle> and no conky
[04:06] <pistle> I purged the entire thing...then reinstalled...and it is showing isntalled..but won't launch
[04:06] <somsip> pistle: told you - run it from the command line. If you can find a log, looks for lines with "error" somewhere
[04:06] <MeltingFiction> pistle, Sorry, but I'm not experienced with Gnome stuff. I found I always had issues with it like your having
[04:07] <pistle> somsip I don't know how to do that...I am very new
[04:07] <somsip> pistle: do you know how to open a terminal?
[04:07] <pistle> yes
[04:07] <somsip> pistle: open one. Type "conky". Look for output that suggests a problem
[04:07] <pistle> i dont have conky installed
[04:08] <somsip> pistle: errr. docky. Sorry
[04:08] <MeltingFiction> I need to make an app called conky
[04:09] <somsip> MeltingFiction: why?
[04:09] <pistle> somsip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17951799/ I will look at it but don't know what I am looking for
[04:10] <pistle> there are some errors but I don;t know what they mean or how to address them
[04:10] <pistle> and docky was working perfectly for months until I went to add a docklet
[04:10] <MeltingFiction> pistle, why do i want to make an app caled conky?
[04:10] <somsip> pistle: what docklet?
[04:11] <pistle> i think it was called "launchpad"? It was in the docklet list as a power button/log off docklet
[04:11] <pistle> as soon as I selected that and hit save docky disappered and even uninstalling and reinstalling hasn't fixed this
[04:12] <pistle> MeltingFiction: I don;t know what you are asking me?
[04:12] <pistle> or was it rhetorical?
[04:12] <MeltingFiction> pistle, my typing is fail tonight
[04:13] <Pit> Hi all
[04:13] <pistle> somsip: is there a way to restore this? I dont understand those errors or what I did to cause them
[04:14] <somsip> pistle: there is another bug report for Docky crashing when installing a different docklet. May be related but perhaps purge docky and reinstall it if you dont have lots of custom stuff going on
[04:14] <pistle> somsip: I did purge and reinstall...and it wont launch
[04:15] <pistle> I tried purging with terminal...and removing with software center
[04:15] <somsip> pistle: what did you run in command line?
[04:15] <pistle> apt-get purge docky and then apt-get autoclean and the apt-get update
[04:15] <pistle> i restarted the machine even
[04:16] <pistle> docky was not anywhere I could find...and I reinstalled with software center...it shows in menu...but wont launch
[04:16] <somsip> pistle: looks like docky keeps something in ~/.cache/docky - delete it, maybe purge/reinstall again
[04:16] <somsip> pistle: http://alk.mx/tecnologia/error-al-iniciar-docky-sessionmanager-systemmanageriupowerproxy/
[04:16] <pistle> ok thanks will check it
[04:19] <pistle> does it matter if I use apt or apt-get? on 16.04
[04:19] <pistle> I did purge...autoclean...update...should I be good?
[04:20] <somsip> pistle: apt is a synonym for apt-get on 16.04 AIUI
[04:20] <somsip> pistle: and deleted ~/.config/docky? Try it and see
[04:20] <pistle> yes deleted that
[04:20] <pistle> will try to reinstall
[04:21] <pistle> somsip: when I did purge and autoclean shouldn't it have removed the docky file in /?
[04:22] <pistle> in /.cache I mean?
[04:22] <somsip> pistle: it will only remove global configs I believe
[04:22] <pistle> ah
[04:24] <pistle> somsip: still won't lauch
[04:24] <pistle> I deleted the docky folder from .cache...purged and updated and reinstalled...won't launch from the menu
[04:24] <somsip> pistle:  I'm out of ideas. Try back here another time when there are more people available and see if someone else has better ideas
[04:25] <pistle> could I have hidden something?
[04:25] <pistle> i dont see how a bug from a docklet would persist into a reinstall
[04:28] <pistle> every time I think linux is working out fine for me some new thing happens...getting frustrated
[04:36] <jsmp> hello
[04:39] <Anonymes> Hi
[04:44] <FredTheNoob> Hi there, I was working fine with 1360x788 resolution, but after restart ubuntu 16.04... I can't change up to 1024x768.. help please
[04:45] <FredTheNoob> I have been watching internet posts but didn't work
[04:47] <FredTheNoob> I'm using ATI HD 6670... seem to be a driver trouble.. but it's ok when I tried lspci -nn | grep VGA
[04:48] <hateball> FredTheNoob: What is the problem you're facing?
[04:49] <FredTheNoob> So I don't understand why 1366x768 resolution dissapears
[04:50] <FredTheNoob> I'm using  1024x786 :(
[04:50] <FredTheNoob> so on
[04:52] <FredTheNoob> I can't change to "normal" resolution
[04:53] <tatertots> Fred "normal" is vague
[04:53] <tatertots> you mean a "higher" resolution
[04:53] <tatertots> > 1024x768
[04:53] <FredTheNoob> I can't change to "1366x768" resolution
[04:53] <tatertots> can you open catylist control center?
[04:53] <tatertots> if not you're not using the proprietary driver for your card
[04:53] <tatertots> and you should be using it if applicable
[04:54] <FredTheNoob> you know that 16.04  doesn't have fglx support, ati will not work
[04:54] <hateball> fglrx is deprecated
[04:54] <tatertots> i didn't say fglrx...stop putting words in my mouth
[04:54] <tatertots> listen to what i'm telling you
[04:55] <tatertots> amd bought ati years ago..it's amd now btw
[04:56] <FredTheNoob> someone can help?
[04:57] <kyew> is there an app that allows easy switching between speakers and a usb headset?
[04:58] <hateball> kyew: pavucontrol
[05:00] <ika_> hello!
[05:00] <tgm4883> FredTheNoob: you should be using the radeon driver with that card on 16.04. What happened prior to your rebooting
[05:00] <ika_> cp no copy hidden files
[05:00] <ika_> Why?
[05:00] <ika_> and cp -r no copiing
[05:01] <crazyhorse18> i'm trying to install vlc but it seems impossible i keep getting vlc : Depends: libgles1-mesa (>= 7.8.1) but it is not going to be installed or
[05:01] <hateball> ika_: can you pastebin your commands and their output?
[05:02] <williamconna> yep
[05:02] <ika_> \^P^/   how to use it?
[05:03] <hateball> !paste | ika_
[05:03] <FredTheNoob> tgm4883 indeed I didn't make any change... recommended drivers are installed and using
[05:03] <tgm4883> FredTheNoob: which recommended drivers?
[05:04] <FredTheNoob> I'm going to restart again... I think  lspci -nn | grep VGA
[05:04] <FredTheNoob> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670/7670] [1002:6758]
[05:04] <FredTheNoob> ubuntu drivers
[05:04] <tgm4883> FredTheNoob: You'd have to screenshot that
[05:04] <tgm4883> FredTheNoob: there shouldn't be any additional driver to install
[05:05] <tgm4883> FredTheNoob: reboot again, if it still doesn't work you might want to check dmesg and xorg log
[05:06] <FredTheNoob> it's weird.. I'm gonna restart, I'll return thks guy
[05:06] <supercom32> So I'm trying to fsck a drive's partition, but it keeps insisting that it is in use when it isn't mounted. Is there a way to free this up without rebooting?
[05:08] <ika_> I in folder how to copy all from here to there?
[05:09] <tgm4883> ika_: have you tried rsync
[05:10] <hateball> ika_: copy -r /source /destination
[05:10] <ika_> no
[05:10] <ika_> .file_name no copied
[05:10] <ika_> cp
[05:11] <tgm4883> ika_: rsync -av /source /destination
[05:11] <ika_> and cp why so stupid?
[05:11] <nikolam> What do you people think.. How would ubuntu server install behave on smallish 512MB RAM laptop, serving as small web server/router/vpn , while using ZFS?
[05:13] <tgm4883> ika_: what is the exact command you are using and where are the hidden files
[05:14] <ika_> what is av?
[05:14] <tgm4883> ika_: man rsync
[05:14] <ika_> cp -r * folder
[05:14] <ika_> I into folder
[05:15] <ika_> what is increase verbosity?
[05:15] <tgm4883> ika_: it's Linux globing that is messing you up, not cp
[05:15] <tgm4883> If you cp the directory instead of * that will work
[05:16] <supercom32> Does anyone know how to figure out what is keeping a partition busy when it isn't mounted?
[05:16] <supercom32> Seems like it shouldn't be in use!
[05:17] <tgm4883> supercom32: lsof maybe?
[05:17] <supercom32> tgm4883: Not terribly familiar with that.
[05:18] <supercom32> tgm4883: I also don't know why an unmounted partition would be busy
[05:18] <tgm4883> That would show you open files, not sure it would help though
[05:25] <Jordan_U> supercom32: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:29] <kyew> thanks hateball
[05:29] <supercom32> Jordan_U: 14.04 I think
[05:29] <kyew> I'll give it another try. Headset shows there but can't seem to 'switch' to it
[05:30] <Jordan_U> supercom32: lsb_release -r
[05:57] <noobface> Hey guys, I have a question about installing eclipse on ubuntu .. do I ask here?
[05:59] <user1_> which is the best twitter client on ubuntu?
[05:59] <user1_> !twitter
[06:00] <user1_> i need notifications for retweet favourite and all things which shows up on twitter.
[06:01] <hateball> !help | noobface
[06:06] <noobface> good call hateball ...
[06:06] <noobface> hello? I'm having troubles; is anyone up? I tried to install eclipse through the command line, but comes back as can't create VM. java is installed. i tried through software manager but the same result. Now i have half install eclipse and when a put into the command line to uninstall it just starts then after awhile it says processing triggers (i can provide more specific detail if needed)
[06:06] <noobface> ignore the first... okay nvm
[06:10] <barfoo> Hey. I would like to create a lxc-container for testing a server. I read how to create, start, attach a ubuntu container. I startet the server @ :8080 and now I would like to forward my HOST:localhost:8080 to CONTAINER:localhost:8080.... how would I do that?
[06:12] <hateball> noobface: if you're installing Eclipse out of repos it'll be hard to help you
[06:12] <hateball> noobface: I mean outside*
[06:12] <noobface> define repos
[06:13] <hateball> noobface: "software manager". from your description it sounded like you had downloaded packages manually or something
[06:14] <noobface> ok yes i did. I can provide detailed feedback of what my terminal is saying as well as what eclipse says when i click on it
[06:21] <barfoo> Some ideas?
[06:23] <misc--> hi, I have a lot of dropped RX packets on my interface but I run tcpdump to try to capture them, the dropped packets don't increment anymore. Why would that be?
[06:29] <StyxAlso> Hello. I'm a big fan of the Control-Alt-<Num Lock> keys for window management. But does anyone know the keystroke to move a window from one screen to another? I haven't been able to find i.
[06:29] <StyxAlso> it
[06:33] <Sebastien> StyxAlso, CTRL+  <-- -->  ? (arrows)
[06:33] <Sebastien> maybe.
[06:33] <Sebastien> or WIN+Arrows
[06:33] <barfoo> StyxAlso: (Control + Alt + Shift) + arrow key
[06:33] <Sebastien> oh, nice :)
[06:34] <StyxAlso> Sebastien: Just tried that. Didn't work. Thanks though.
[06:34] <barfoo> Sebastien: do you know someting about lxc
[06:35] <Sebastien> no barfoo, sorry.
[06:35] <StyxAlso> barfoo: That didn't work either.
[06:35] <barfoo> StyxAlso: what ubuntu version?
[06:36] <StyxAlso> barfoo: 16.04 LTS
[06:36] <StyxAlso> It's just the default setup, using compiz
[06:36] <barfoo> StyxAlso: nice... It should work.. tried it a few minutes back on that version...
[06:36] <StyxAlso> Okay. Not sure what I'm doing wrong then :-)
[06:37] <barfoo> StyxAlso: Did you mod your installation?
[06:37] <StyxAlso> No, not at all.
[06:38] <barfoo> StyxAlso: Did you read the tips... (hold SUPER / WindowsKey) ?
[06:39] <barfoo> StyxAlso: hold ..... SUPER or the WindowsKey...
[06:39] <StyxAlso> Yes, I did. That keystroke that you mentioned isn't there.
[06:41] <StyxAlso> I'm going to drown my sorrows in a cup of tea, but thank you for your help.
[06:41] <tomaz__> i would like to use CURL , with a site which is authenticated... but keep getting back an error, that it can not resolve host, but than error returns my username instead of host
[06:41] <tomaz__> and i do specify -u <user>
[06:42] <barfoo> StyxAlso: Ok... lets try this... Press (Control) and (Alt) and than the (left arrow key) does this do anything?
[06:43] <StyxAlso> No, it doesn't
[06:43] <StyxAlso> Weird, huh? I'll be back in a couple of minutes.
[06:44] <barfoo> StyxAlso: ok... sorry I could not help
[06:45] <barfoo> there is someone who has used LXC ???
[06:48] <root__> Hello
[06:48] <sweet_lady> hi
[06:48] <aeolus> greetings
[06:49] <DustyNuts> Yeeehaw
[06:49] <sweet_lady> hallo
[06:49] <sweet_lady> have u chat here often?
[06:49] <DustyNuts> Yes I do
[06:49] <somsip> sweet_lady: this is not a chat channel. It's ubuntu support.
[06:49] <sweet_lady> seems the website changed a lot?
[06:49] <DustyNuts> I know
[06:50] <sweet_lady> for pc?
[06:50] <DustyNuts> Do You have A problem sweet_lady?
[06:50] <DustyNuts> Can we perhaps help you with something?
[06:51] <sweet_lady> well can u tell me why the website becoming so difficult
[06:51] <somsip> sweet_lady: what website?
[06:51] <sweet_lady> before ,  its easy to join in
[06:51] <DustyNuts> Ubuntu Website?
[06:51] <sweet_lady> here the chat room
[06:51] <somsip> sweet_lady: you have the wrong channel. If you want support, ask here. If you want to chat, please go elsewhere
[06:52] <sweet_lady> im confused,
[06:52] <DustyNuts> I think you don't understand
[06:52] <sweet_lady> what kind of support ?
[06:52] <DustyNuts> what do you seek?
[06:52] <somsip> sweet_lady: ubuntu support.
[06:52] <StyxAlso> A keystroke in Ubuntu that moves windows between screens.
[06:53] <sweet_lady> oh  i see
[06:53] <StyxAlso> Without having to install another window manager.
[06:53] <barfoo> DustyNuts: Do you know how to config lxc?
[06:53] <DustyNuts> ctrl + alt + (directional button of choice)
[06:53] <StyxAlso> So everyone keeps telling me. But it doesn't work for me.
[06:53] <ducasse> StyxAlso: maybe you can set keyboard shortcuts in compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:53] <DustyNuts> But first you have to enable your workspaces if you are using unity
[06:53] <sweet_lady> thanks
[06:53] <StyxAlso> Probably
[06:54] <StyxAlso> Right, that's what I was missing, thank you. How do I do that? Is it in Settings?
[06:55] <DustyNuts> Settings
[06:55] <StyxAlso> Okay, which one?
[06:56] <DustyNuts> http://askubuntu.com/questions/260510/how-do-i-turn-on-workspaces-why-do-i-only-have-one-workspace
[06:56] <DustyNuts> That should do the job bro.
[06:56] <DustyNuts> @barfoo Unfortunately not
[06:57] <miraikuna> Test.
[06:58] <somsip> !test
[06:58] <somsip>  miraikuna
[06:58] <StyxAlso> Okay, that did something interesting. Just not what I wanted :-)
[06:58] <StyxAlso> I'm teaching a class now, back later :-)
[06:58] <miraikuna> :D
[07:00] <barfoo> DustyNuts: I have createt, started, attached a container. I started a server in my container on :8080. But now I would like to test my server with my HOST browser. In order to do that, I would like to connect my CONTAINER:8080 to my HOST:8080.
[07:00] <DustyNuts> Test what?
[07:01] <DustyNuts> open up a browser
[07:01] <barfoo> DustyNuts: Test the site...
[07:01] <DustyNuts> type in the following:
[07:01] <DustyNuts> localhost:8080
[07:01] <DustyNuts> hit enter
[07:02] <DustyNuts> or
[07:02] <DustyNuts> 127.0.0.1:8080
[07:02] <DustyNuts> enter
[07:02] <Marwins> Hi!
[07:02] <Marwins> I need help, anyone not afk here?
[07:02] <barfoo> DustyNuts: That did not work.
[07:03] <somsip> !ask | Marwins
[07:03] <DustyNuts> Okay do you have any vhosts created?
[07:03] <barfoo> DustyNuts: I think that Container in lxc are on a privat network
[07:03] <DustyNuts> Are you using apache2?
[07:03] <barfoo> DustyNuts: no
[07:03] <barfoo> DustyNuts: no, golang
[07:04] <barfoo> DustyNuts: my host is a normal pc
[07:04] <DustyNuts> What server are u using?
[07:04] <barfoo> DustyNuts: my slave is a lxc-container...
[07:04] <DustyNuts> So tell me how you started the server
[07:05] <barfoo> DustyNuts: The Server on my Container is the basic server package
[07:06] <barfoo> DustyNuts: I started the sever executing my programm... binding it to :8080 TCP
[07:07] <DustyNuts> So you want to access this in your browser?
[07:07] <barfoo> DustyNuts: yes
[07:07] <barfoo> DustyNuts: The server is running, listining in the container correct... tested it
[07:08] <DustyNuts> You have to configure your server to allow this
[07:08] <barfoo> wget localhost:8080 ---response----> golang server: 200 ok
[07:08] <Marwins> Ok then. When I try to open a .py file with python, it says: usr/bin/python: can't find '__main__' module in 'my .py file'
[07:08] <Marwins> I need help.
[07:08] <somsip> DustyNuts: no, he has to bind his local port to the LXC port. That's the issue. Nothing to do with the server running in the lxc container
[07:08] <somsip> Marwins: where did you get the .py from?
[07:08] <barfoo> DustyNuts: Dont you think, that I have to bind/forward my HOST:8080 to CONTAINER:8080?
[07:09] <DustyNuts> Yes You are right
[07:09] <DustyNuts> Somsip just said
[07:09] <Marwins> I got it from github, downloaded it with "git clone" command.
[07:09] <somsip> Marwins: you need to contact the maintainer of the github package, or possibly ask in #python
[07:09] <barfoo> DustyNuts: ...ohhh didnt saw it
[07:10] <DustyNuts> try adding the following as the first line of your python file
[07:11] <somsip> Marwins: but it seems like you aren't running main - you're running a module script.
[07:11] <DustyNuts> #! /usr/bin/python
[07:11] <Marwins> But the problem is, when I downloaded it first, it was working.
[07:11] <Marwins> Then, I don't know what, but something happened and it started saying this.
[07:11] <somsip> Marwins: it's not an ubuntu issue. It's a coding issue, or a user bug
[07:13] <Marwins> Ok, thanks for your help. By the way I have an another problem, too. When I try to unrar a .rar file it says "Parsing filters is unsupported." and can't extract all of the files.
[07:13] <somsip> Marwins: that's a bug in the free version of unrar IIRC
[07:14] <Marwins> What can I do about it?
[07:14] <DustyNuts> I had the same problem at some time
[07:14] <fishcried> #join openstack-cinder
[07:14] <somsip> Marwins: ah - it's a bug in the free version. You have to install the non-free version I think
[07:14] <somsip> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/292384
[07:15] <Marwins> Or can I find another unrar program and download it?
[07:15] <somsip> Marwins: sure you can. Or you could take my advice
[07:16] <DustyNuts> http://askubuntu.com/questions/41791/whats-the-easiest-way-to-unrar-a-file
[07:16] <Marwins> I don't know how many bucks that non-free version costs :D
[07:16] <somsip> Marwins: non-free as in libre
[07:17] <somsip> er...non-libre
[07:17] <somsip> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller/+bug/1527817
[07:18] <somsip> See answer #6
[07:22] <barfoo> sry. had a bad network timeout...
[07:23] <barfoo> is there a was solution for my challenge :)
[07:23] <somsip> barfoo: no
[07:23] <somsip> barfoo: well, there wasnt one while you were gonr
[07:24] <barfoo> somsip: would you copy it for me?
[07:24] <barfoo> somsip: pls..
[07:24] <somsip> barfoo: I cant copy something that does not exist
[07:24] <barfoo> somsip: ...oh ....wasnt.... :D
[07:24] <barfoo> somsip: ... u read what you want to read...
[07:25] <barfoo> somsip: :D
[07:30] <ivan2> hello
[07:31] <erasmus> hi
[07:31] <ivan2> how are you
[07:32] <erasmus> drunk
[07:32] <erasmus> how are you?
[07:32] <erasmus> I can still irc
[07:32] <erasmus> barely =)
[07:32] <erasmus> barley
[07:32] <erasmus> barleycorn
[07:32] <somsip> erasmus: well, keep it on topic while you're here
[07:32] <erasmus> oh ofcourse
[07:32] <erasmus> let's talk about ow awesome ubuntu is
[07:32] <erasmus> I like it!
[07:33] <somsip> erasmus: no, lets do ubuntu support here and take offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:33] <ivan2> i too
[07:33] <jatin30> HI guys! I am cherry-picking some new features for our OS for the first time and now I have to resolve conflicts. the first file is "both modified:   core/java/android/app/Activity.java" which is this file https://bpaste.net/show/5147a5accbb4  I cant figure out what is messing with the commit and how to go about fixing it as I am doing it for the first time. Any help?
[07:33] <k_sze[work]> What's the proper way to disable booting to GUI with Ubuntu Desktop 14.04?
[07:33] <somsip> jatin30: you need an android-related channel
[07:33] <somsip> !alis | jatin30
[07:33] <somsip> !text | k_sze[work] (for a one off)
[07:34] <sumi> hello
[07:35] <barfoo> found it
[07:37] <k_sze[work]> somsip: Is it normal if I *don't* have a /etc/default/grub file at all?
[07:37] <barfoo> just run sudo lxc-info -n containername | grep IP use it in you browser of choice...
[07:37] <somsip> k_sze[work]: not aware of a case where you wouldnt have one, but what version of ubuntu?
[07:37] <k_sze[work]> And I don't have update-grub for some reason.
[07:38] <k_sze[work]> somsip: 14.04.1 LTS
[07:38] <fadavi> Hello, anyone here has nVidia GeForce 960M graphic? could not install driver on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS..
[07:39] <somsip> k_sze[work]: does sudo update-grub work
[07:39] <somsip> k_sze[work]: /etc/default/grub found here on 14.04.something after a brief search
[07:40] <fadavi> Hello, anyone here has nVidia GeForce 960M graphic? could not install driver on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS..
[07:41] <k_sze[work]> somsip: I know why now.
[07:42] <k_sze[work]> somsip: this is nvidia's L4T Linux, which is supposed to be Ubuntu, except it doesn't use grub.
[07:43] <k_sze[work]> It uses fastbook/u-boot, apparently.
[07:43] <mihael_k33hl> my Lubuntu is a bit messed up, how do I reset the monitor display for Lubuntu?
[07:43] <somsip> k_sze[work]: so it's not ubuntu. That's why we dont support non-ubuntu
[07:43] <mihael_k33hl> what the command for running system settings in Lubuntu?
[07:45] <mihael_k33hl> anyone>?
[07:47] <hateball> fadavi: is this a hybrid gpu system?
[07:47] <hateball> fadavi: the 361 driver in 16.04 *should* work, otherwise you can try a more recent one from the unsupported PPA
[07:48] <hateball> fadavi: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-367
[07:50] <fadavi> hateball: I've tested all of nVidia drivers (367, 364, etc.). After installing driver, on Intel graphic card all things are good.. But, after switching to nVidia graphic card and logout/restart, Screen change to blank and any has not any reaction! :(
[07:51] <hateball> fadavi: hmmm, then I dont know... I avoid hybrid systems. Does your BIOS perhaps let you run only nvidia? Some machines do
[07:52] <fadavi> hateball: unfortunately, no :(
[07:56] <joegiampaoli> anyone know how to disable usb charging to android device that I'm using as USB network tethering so it doesn't kill my battery? Thanks in advance...
[07:57] <SwedeMike> joegiampaoli: why do you believe that giving your phone power will kill its battery?
[07:58] <hateball> Perhaps he means it will kill the (presumably) laptop
[07:58] <SwedeMike> joegiampaoli: li-ion batteries are killed by charging/discharging and heat. Constantly keeping them at 100% doesn't harm the battery.
[07:59] <SwedeMike> hateball: ah
[08:00] <joegiampaoli> SwedeMike: OK, yes you are right and I know that, but what I mean is that I don't want battery in laptop being drained faster because it's trying to keep battery in phone at 100%
[08:01] <joegiampaoli> SwedeMike: I meant more drain than real physical strain...
[08:03] <SwedeMike> joegiampaoli: yeah, I misunderstood your initial post. I have never seen anyone talking about disabling charging like that, can't remember seeing USB being data only. So no idea unfortunately.
[08:03] <EriC^^> are you using it for tethering internet?
[08:04] <joegiampaoli> SwedeMike: OK, thanks, I'm still trying to google it up, but apparently it's not that easy, maybe laptop-tools to disable power only
[08:04] <joegiampaoli> EriC^^: Exactly
[08:04] <EriC^^> joegiampaoli: i think it'll drain pretty quickly, mine gets super hot when using the internet or downloading stuff
[08:05] <EriC^^> it's nice to be able to do it though
[08:06] <joegiampaoli> EriC^^: Absolutely! My wifi card is really weak, so sometimes usb tethering is my only best option, since wifi tethering has to be done through mobile data and that's $$$
[08:06] <joegiampaoli> In Mexico mobile data is still not that cheap
[08:09] <jatin30> I have some doubts in resolving conflicts and no one is responding on android channels so Can anyone help here?
[08:11] <jatin30> If there are some extra lines in my local which are not in remote and I want to keep them so If I cant delete them what should I do to keep them and resolve the conflict too?
[08:12] <somsip> jatin30: stash them
[08:13] <jatin30> somsip, thanks
[08:13] <g105b> kswap0 has been the bain of my life for the last few months. All servers I'm running on various VPSes are afflicted by a long running high CPU process that keeps on coming back no matter what I try. What am I doing wrong?
[08:16] <Grorco> Hi I am new to the whole process and wanted to work on some of the little paper cuts, I was wondering what the fire with numbers, and band aids mean on the list?
[08:21] <Grorco> never mind I figured it out
[08:28] <bonke> helloo
[08:29] <DustyNuts> Yo yo
[08:38] <bonke> I am running a dual boot and ubuntu won't boot as diffault. Grub is installed. any help
[08:42] <Grorco> is grub the main boot?
[08:44] <Red__> hey
[08:44] <Red__> I am planning to install ubuntu when I come back from home as a dual boot, can I uninstall it when I dont need it anymore/dont wan it?
[08:45] <Red__> Can someone say if thats posible>
[08:45] <k1l> yes.
[08:46] <Red__> Is it diffucult?
[08:46] <k1l> remove the partitions and run the windows cd to reinstall the windows bootloader.
[08:46] <Red__> Is there a way to do it without the cd?
[08:48] <Red__> I dont know if I have the cd
[08:48] <Grorco> how long are you planning on using it?
[08:48] <bonke> yes grub is the main boot
[08:48] <k1l> maybe you can make a windows usb. but that is best explained in ##windows
[08:49] <Grorco> I was going to suggest using usb as well
[08:50] <Red__> Is it diffucult to do?
[08:51] <Red__> If its to diffucult I wont bother installing ubuntu. becuase I dont want to mess up my whole pc
[08:54] <Grorco> bonke> Is ubuntu the 1st item on the list?
[08:55] <jhasse> Hi! On my ubuntu server mysql isn't listening anymore on port 3306 after a reboot. /var/log/mysql.log is empty, is there any way to debug this?
[08:55] <Grorco> Red__: Its not really hard, I actually can't get grub as my main booter anyways
[08:56] <Fuchs> jhasse: is it even running? Check with ps and systemctl
[08:56] <bonke> When the computer starts, it goes to grub and i will type exit and after that it will boot to windows.
[08:56] <jhasse> Fuchs, yes: `ps aux | ag mysql` shows mysqld running, but `netstat -tulpn | ag mysql` shows nothing
[08:57] <Red__> Oh haha just found a website with tutorial
[08:57] <Red__> its pretty easy! haha
[08:57] <Red__> Also found out how to create a windows 7 system disc!! :D
[08:57] <Fuchs> jhasse: netstat will only show process names if ran as priviledged user, thus: sudo
[08:58] <somsip> jatin30: check the bind-address in /etc/mysql/my.cnf though there is no reason this should have changed
[08:58] <jhasse> Fuchs, I ran both commands in a root shell :)
[08:58] <Fuchs> jhasse: and systemctl status   means it started up well?
[08:59] <jhasse> Fuchs, systemctl not found (Ubuntu 14.04.4)
[08:59] <Grorco> Red__: I was going to say its the top google for ubuntu usb :)
[09:00] <Fuchs> jhasse: ah, in this case the upstart tool for it
[09:00] <Grorco> bonke: why are you typing exit if you want to start ubuntu?
[09:01] <Red__> I just burned the ubuntu disc yesterday
[09:01] <Red__> Im prety hyped! :D
[09:01] <jatin30> somsip, no bind address just these two lines- !includedir /etc/mysql/conf.d/ !includedir /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/
[09:02] <jhasse> Fuchs, `service --status-all` shows `[ ? ]  mysql`
[09:02] <bonke> what should i type in grub then? start ubuntu?
[09:02] <Red__> Wait if I make bios always start windows first does that mean I dont have to mess with the bootloader
[09:03] <Red__> when I uninstall it
[09:03] <ubuntu916> ping admin
[09:03] <somsip> jatin30: what version of ubuntu/mysql?
[09:04] <Grorco> bonke: which version of grub are you using?
[09:04] <jatin30> ubuntu 16.04
[09:04] <somsip> jatin30: ah - maybe it's changed on a newer verion. Check the files in those conf.d dirs and see what you have in there
[09:04] <jatin30> somsip, mysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.6.30, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using  EditLine wrapper
[09:05] <Grorco> red: My system I have to hit esc to change over to grub to boot otherwise straight to windows
[09:05] <Red__> If i make bios always start windows does that mean I dont have to mess with the bootloader once I remove ubuntu
[09:05] <Seveas> jatin30: that's not Ubuntu.
[09:05] <bonke> @Groco, i am not sure and i will let you know late. I'm at work and this is happening on my personal computer. Thank you.
[09:06] <somsip> Seveas: mine is 14.04 and has this - very similar so looks kosher  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.5.49, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using readline 6.3
[09:06] <bonke> Thanks for spending your time helping me thou. much appreciate.
[09:06] <Grorco> red: so yeah don't make grub main if you don't want to see it
[09:06] <Seveas> jatin30: I'm running 16.04 and get different output.
[09:06] <nikolam> how do i turn off pulseaudio daemon, for not use RAM it uses? Xubuntu 12.04
[09:06] <somsip> Seveas: mysql -V ?
[09:07] <Seveas> jatin30: what's the output of apt-cache policy mysql-client
[09:07] <Red__> how do I keep my win bootloader
[09:07] <Grorco> bonke: check etc/default/grub GRUB_Default = 0 is first on list 1 2nd...
[09:08] <Red__> I wanna use my win boatloader while still having Win and Ubunutu
[09:08] <jatin30> seveas, https://bpaste.net/show/956d43be2af5
[09:08] <bonke> @Groco, will do that
[09:08] <jatin30> and I am using ubuntu 16.04 too btw
[09:09] <Seveas> jatin30: so your repos are for 15.10 and you installed a mysql client without using the repos
[09:09] <Grorco> I believe it prompts you about making grub main, it failed on my laptop :(
[09:09] <Grorco> but thats what you want anyways :)
[09:11] <jatin30> seveas, I am sorry ubuntu 16.04 is on a sperate VM that I use , I am using 15.10 only now on this system
[09:22] <Grorco> hey how can I tell what is handling my power management, I thought it was pm_utils but changes made to it don't affect anything...
[09:27] <tokam> Is it possible that hplib is the worst program ever?
[09:27] <tokam> since I use it I always have issues with the printer
[09:27] <tatertots> lol...i like hplip
[09:28] <Grorco> I have a polkit error constanly if it makes you feel any better
[09:28] <tokam> I always have to start the printer manually in hplip and often get communication errors
[09:28] <tokam> so printing does not work
[09:29] <tokam> sometimes I must reinstall the printer
[09:29] <tatertots> usb or lan printer?
[09:29] <tokam> usb
[09:29] <tatertots> oh
[09:29] <tokam> HP Envy 5530
[09:29] <tokam> it is so annoying. the self test states that all required libraries and my environment are ok
[09:29] <tatertots> can you reproduce the issue at will?
[09:30] <tokam> right now yes.
[09:30] <tokam> because I have it
[09:30] <tokam> but no I do not know how to reproduce it in every case at will
[09:30] <tokam> I will try now to access my printer via wlan and see if it works better than
[09:30] <tokam> will it work too if I uninstall hplib?
[09:31] <tatertots> don't make too many changes because it will be tough to rule it down to a particular point of failure
[09:31] <tatertots> start by changing interface from a usb printer to a network printer like you just said ...make no other changes
[09:31] <tatertots> until you test as a network printer
[09:32] <tatertots> if you make twenty changes and it magically starts working you won't be able to know what exactly changed and what the results of that change were
[09:32] <tatertots> hope that was clear..i know i probably could have said that better
[09:33] <tatertots> but oh well
[09:33] <tokam> ok now after I set up the wlan connection the printer is printing but I think still via usb
[09:33] <tokam> because I did not actively pair it in ubuntu via network
[09:33] <tatertots> disconnect the USB and print again..make no other changes
[09:34] <jatin30> I want to cherry pick the battery percentage indicator for android and I cant find it on PA/CM help?
[09:35] <tatertots> you thought it was still printing over usb...and that's logical because after all you still had it connected via usb...but once you disconnect the usb let's see what happens when you try to print
[09:36] <tatertots> that will confirm it
[09:36] <tatertots> i hope u made no other changes :)
[09:36] <tokam> If I try to install my device as jetDirect Network/Ethernet/Wireless it is not detected?
[09:37] <tatertots> did it print after you (A) set it up as a network printer and (B) disconnected the USB cable?
[09:37] <tokam> no
[09:38] <tatertots> now you sound like you never actually completely had it set up as a network printer..u only thought you did ...
[09:38] <tatertots> back to square one :(
[09:39] <tatertots> plug the usb cable back in and print.....did it print yes/no?....don't say anything else besides YES or NO
[09:40] <roberto_> sweet child
[09:41] <tokam> yes
[09:41] <tatertots> ok
[09:41] <tatertots> disconnect the usb cable now
[09:41] <tatertots> and install it as a network printer
[09:42] <tatertots> don't do anything that is not a part of making this a network printer
[09:43] <tatertots> let me know when you are done.....i expect you will be able to give it's ip address and ping this ip address if you successfully configured a network printer
[09:46] <tokam> It prints via the network connection. I had to install a new printer queue
[09:46] <tokam> it did not work, for me to share the same printer queue via two connections to the printer
[09:48] <tokam> I observe now how it worksfor me to have an wlan printer. I did not prefer this option. It costs more energy
[09:48] <tatertots> next time you get com errors via usb you can determine if it prints via network to isolate the issue down to a possibly faulty USB cable, it's an intermittent issue so those are naturally longer to rule down
[09:48] <tokam> I will delete the usb printer now
[09:48] <tokam> I had too many errors.
[09:49] <tatertots> had you already tried a known good usb cable?
[09:49] <tokam> no
[09:49] <tokam> but it works sometimes with my cable?
[09:49] <tokam> I never heared that a cable has issues?
[09:50] <tatertots> the points of failure starting from the printer would be > USB port on printer > USB cable > USB port on PC
[09:51] <tatertots> hope i'm explaining clearly
[09:51] <tokam> thanks
[09:53] <tatertots> no worries
[10:11] <ace_me> hi all ! I am trying to install webmin with puppet but I get a Warning: /Apt_key[Add key: 1B24BE83 from Apt::Source webmin_mirror]: The id should be a full fingerprint (40 characters), see README.
[10:11] <ace_me> any ideea how where to get such a full fingerprint ?
[10:12] <hateball> !webmin
[10:13] <ace_me> I have it still installed on few vps's manually but now I try to add it with puppet hateball
[10:14] <ace_me> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-webmin-with-ssl-on-ubuntu-14-04
[10:14] <Ben64> webmin isn't supported
[10:14] <ace_me> on this chat you mean Ben64 >?
[10:14] <Ben64> here, ubuntu in general, did you read what ubottu said?
[10:15] <ace_me> supported means agreed
[10:15] <ace_me> sounds like microsoft :)
[10:15] <ace_me> there is then anything similar to manage a server except bash ?
[10:15] <ace_me> something like webmin ?
[10:16] <ace_me> which is also agreed ?
[10:16] <akik> ace_me: you said it yourself, puppet
[10:16] <jatin30> I tried to use repo sync to update my repo it failed - due to fetch errors so I used "repo sync -f" and It failed again due to fetch errors. what to do?
[10:17] <ace_me> hmm I was still happy combining them in my vps ! webmin was nice to update , to see csf console and configure a bit some of the aspects
[10:17] <ace_me> bash is laso good in some other circumstances
[10:17] <ace_me> laso = also
[10:17] <Ben64> ace_me: zentyal
[10:18] <ace_me> see now :( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebMin
[10:19] <Ben64> ace_me: see where it says it was dropped over 10 years ago because it's not comparable with the way things are configured
[10:20] <ace_me> why then is it working on my live systems ?
[10:20] <ace_me> I am not getting what is wrong
[10:20] <ace_me> my systems are out there from 3 to 5 years ago
[10:20] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:21] <k1l> ace_me: webmin was kicked out of ubuntu and debian repos since it made a mess to configfiles. and  most people needed to make a clean reinstall after webmin made that mess. so its not supported anymore
[10:21] <ace_me> nothing went wrong with them and experienced up to 527 days uptime
[10:22] <ace_me> ok now is far more easy to understand ! some of the peoples out there (including me often) are not reading things and expect to find easy to install and easy package
[10:22] <ace_me> which is quite normal
[10:22]  * ace_me will stop now asking and will dig himself alone
[10:26] <danxor> hi all
[10:37] <ace_me> hi danxor
[10:40] <loz> hey guys
[10:41] <loz> >find /usr/lib -name "libcurl*"
[10:41] <loz> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4
[10:41] <loz> >./red-060
[10:41] <loz> ~/.red/console-2016-3-26-9662: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:41] <loz> 1. why the lib is not in /usr/lib?
[10:42] <loz> 2. what is the normal way to fix that?
[10:42] <loz> 3. How does ubuntu work with such things?
[10:42] <Triffid_Hunter> loz: perhaps your red/console is a 32 bit app which can't use a 64 bit library?
[10:42] <loz> Triffid_Hunter: meh, looks like it is
[10:43] <Triffid_Hunter> loz: then you need the i386 libcurl, there's a way to ask apt for that but I don't remember off the top of my head
[10:44] <loz> ok, I'm trying to install it
[10:44] <loz> Unpacking libcurl4-openssl-dev:i386 (7.47.0-1ubuntu2) ...
[10:44] <loz> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libcurl4-openssl-dev_7.47.0-1ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[10:44] <loz>  trying to overwrite shared '/usr/bin/curl-config', which is different from other instances of package libcurl4-openssl-dev:i386
[10:44] <loz> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[10:46] <Pandaa> Hello! Ubuntu 14.04 - vsftpd - configure to active mode?
[10:47] <loz> ok, package installation is failed, but lib appeared in /usr/lib
[10:48] <loz> looks like this is normal thing for ubuntu
[10:48] <BluesKaj> loz, perhaps othe app need it
[10:48] <BluesKaj> ather
[10:48] <loz> I don't really understand, am I the only one who faces such problems?
[10:49] <BluesKaj> oops , other apps , ...need more coffee
[10:49] <loz> are you using ubuntu and don't get "System problem" messages, broken packages and everything like that?
[10:50] <BluesKaj> loz, pastebin your errors and post the url here
[10:50] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[10:55] <Pandaa> anyone using vsftpd? Does it default to active mode?
[10:58] <Seveas> loz: as to 'why is it in a subdir: this is for multiarch support, so you can install 32bit and 64bit versions side by side.
[10:59] <Seveas> loz: and you shouldn't need the dev package, just the regular one
[11:04] <C_minus> Since installing CUDA toolkit and driver, about half the time by laptop hangs at the ubuntu splash screen and goes unresponsive. Other half of the time, boots fine. Booting with older kernel version always works.
[11:09] <mustu> Hi, I do get connection reset no matter if I allow in UFW or Deny..
[11:09] <mustu> why UFW isn't working as expected? It's a fresh Server 14.04 installation
[11:10] <Ben64> mustu: can you elaborate
[11:11] <hrkucuk>  
[11:11] <mustu> I enabled UFW and whitelisted an IP.. however when trying to SSH I get connection refused .. checking tcpdump I can see that ubuntu is issuing a tcp reset to the connection attempt.
[11:12] <hrkucuk> sorry, is this where people discuss ubuntu related issues?
[11:12] <mustu> for now my default rule is also set to allow... and I've also allowed all traffic from that remote IP
[11:12] <mustu> hrkucuk yes
[11:12] <Ben64> mustu: doesn't sound like a ufw issue then
[11:12] <ConsciousCreator> I'm looking for a way to be able to share my files across all my PCs/devices on my home network, from my home server running Ubuntu 1404LTS. Does anyone have any suggestions for a relatively ready and secure way of doing so?
[11:12] <hrkucuk> thanks, good luck about your issue people.
[11:13] <mustu> Ben64 what it could be then?
[11:13] <hateball> ConsciousCreator: Nextcloud
[11:13] <ConsciousCreator> *relatively easy
[11:13] <Ben64> ConsciousCreator: samba?
[11:13] <ConsciousCreator> Hateball:  Thanks. I'll look into it.
[11:13] <BluesKaj> hrkucuk, do you have an issue, just state it if you need support
[11:14] <mustu> Ben64 alright... got it .. SSH was hanging
[11:14] <hateball> ConsciousCreator: Well that is overkill if it is only local network, I misread
[11:14] <C_minus> Can anybody even read my messages? I've asked about this problem like 5 times over the past few days.
[11:15] <Ben64> C_minus: yep
[11:15] <k1l> C_minus: you seem to have a very rare cuda setup there. that is not a mainstream issue
[11:15] <ConsciousCreator> Ben64: I've had trouble getting SAMBA working. I've managed to get NFS working for accessing files from my Linux PCs, but not SAMBA...
[11:15] <C_minus> What's rare about my setup? I just follwed the instructions and installed CUDA with apt-get :/
[11:16] <Ben64> ConsciousCreator: samba just requires a bit of setup
[11:16] <mustu> hi, what's wrong in this command>>  ufw allow in ssh from 192.168.5.13
[11:16] <sipior> C_minus: you might have better luck in #cuda, here on freenode.
[11:17] <ConsciousCreator> Hateball:  For now my needs are sharing across my LAN, but having remote access via the internet could be a need down the track, so having that scalability in the solution I implement could be handy...
[11:17] <Ben64> mustu: sudo ufw allow from ip to any port 22
[11:18] <Pandaa> Anyone with vsftpd experience here?
[11:18] <ConsciousCreator> Ben64: I'm not a fan of having to edit config files...is there an easy way to get SAMBA working?
[11:18] <Ben64> ConsciousCreator: probably, but cli works for me
[11:18] <k1l> Pandaa: what is the exact issue? details matter
[11:19] <Pandaa> k1l: like i asked just before, im wondering if it defaults to active mode? if not how do i enable it?
[11:19] <k1l> i dont know what active mode should be
[11:20] <akik> Pandaa: it's the ftp client which decides the mode
[11:20] <jatin30> So i used mergetool to resolve conflicts in meld and when i did resolved all  conflicts it gave error everytime Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_foreach: assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed. I guess this has something to do with the fact that I closed the meld manually and then clicked on save before closing. Can anyone put some light on what the error is really about? TIA
[11:20] <k1l> Pandaa: but i guess you can change that behaviour in the config file
[11:21] <ConsciousCreator> Ben64: Do you know of any solid step by step guides to setting up SAMBA?  If I had a solid guide that I could follow that would make quite a difference.  Preferably a comprehensive guide with troubleshooting steps if it doesn't work by following the instructions...
[11:21] <Pandaa> k1l, well you see im behind a network firewall and opening just port 21 isn't enough. So i was told i need to open up 20 and set up vsftp as well
[11:22] <auronandace|work> !samba | ConsciousCreator
[11:22] <rudrab> hi, I was looking for the .desktop file of Ubuntu Software, and havent found one
[11:23] <Ben64> ConsciousCreator: 1. install samba 2. edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and add the couple lines it takes to add a share
[11:23] <rudrab> is it rethemed version of org.gnome.Software? even if it is so, the i have not found and thing with Name=Ubuntu Software, where is the .desktop file or the corresponding icon?
[11:23] <Ben64> oh and 3. smbpasswd if you require a password for share
[11:24] <ConsciousCreator> Ben64: Yes, I've done that, but the SAMBA shares still don't show up on my Windows PC..
[11:25] <Ben64> wrong workgroup?
[11:26] <akik> ConsciousCreator: did you try to map the share and get an error?
[11:26] <k1l> ConsciousCreator: try to enter the ip or network name from that samba server into the filebrowser "\\server". windows is very picky in showing samba shares.
[11:27] <k1l> and make sure to restart the samba service after you made changes to the samba conf
[11:27] <ConsciousCreator> akik: No, I didn't get any error. The shares just don't show up on my Windows PC, even though I've set the shares to be visible...
[11:27] <akik> ConsciousCreator: it's not automatic
[11:29] <ConsciousCreator> k11: Yes, I've tried to use the IP address in Windows Explorer... Results in an error message...
[11:29] <k1l> what error?
[11:30] <ConsciousCreator> k11: I can't remember off the top of my head...but something to the effect that Windows was unable to find a share at that address...
[11:31] <Ben64> try running "smbclient -L <your ip>
[11:31] <BluesKaj> is there no "add network folder"option in nautilus-network rather than having to use samba?
[11:32] <BluesKaj> I'm a kde user so I've forgotten nautilus' shortcomings I guess
[11:40] <k1l> BluesKaj: there is. iirc its akonadi or something, which is basically a frontend to samba. but i dont even know if its a desktop or server running the samba share
[11:41] <BluesKaj> k1 akonadi is a PIM server for kmail and kontact etc and uses a database
[11:41] <hateball> k1l: Akonadi is used for PIM
[11:42] <ConsciousCreator> I'm trying to connect to my server from my Android tablet via SSH, but the server won't allow me to connect...The password is correct. I can connect from my laptops via the wireless LAN and SSH just fine... Does anyone have any ideas why this might be?
[11:43] <k1l> yeah, akonadi was the wrong name. avahi zeroconf
[11:43] <ConsciousCreator> K11: It's a server running the SAMBA share...
[11:44] <hateball> ConsciousCreator: check /var/log/auth.log
[11:44] <BluesKaj> ConsciousCreator, why samba? it's meant for connecting to windows share, mostly
[11:44] <ConsciousCreator> k11: I guess a command line solution would be preferable since I am running the server in headless mode now and mostly control it via SSH.
[11:46] <ConsciousCreator> BluesKaj:  Yes, I need SAMBA for accessing data on the server from my Windows PCs...
[11:46] <k1l> ConsciousCreator: then the config is the way to go. its not that hard to do that
[11:46] <ConsciousCreator> hateball: Thanks, I'll do that now..
[11:48] <BluesKaj> ConsciousCreator, which FS is on the server?
[11:49] <ConsciousCreator> BluesKaj: I believe it's ext3 or ext4...
[11:52] <Pandaa> Ok I made a thread. Thanks k1l and others for your help
[11:52] <BluesKaj> ConsciousCreator, check this out for your windows pcs , http://www.ext2fsd.com/?page_id=16
[11:54] <ConsciousCreator> Hateball: Thanks for your advice...turns out the reason for the server rejecting the SSH login attempt was a simple typo in the username on my Android tablet..  Fixed the typo and now able to login via SSH. Thanks a lot for that :-)
[11:55] <ConsciousCreator> BluesKaj: Thanks, checking out that kink now :-)
[11:56] <ConsciousCreator> *link ( damn Android autocorrect!)
[12:01] <Annaka> How to install new version of the Virtual MAshine Manager?
[12:02] <Annaka> Virtual Machine Manager 1.3.2 Copyright (C) 2006-2014 Red Hat Inc.  Its old
[12:03] <Annaka> 2014 year and now 2016 why?
[12:04] <k1l> !info virt-manager
[12:06] <k1l> Annaka: what ubuntu are you on?
[12:06] <Annaka> Are you not see? 16.04
[12:07] <k1l> what is the issue with 1.3.2? it was synced from debian in march.
[12:08] <C_minus> I needed to build a couple libs from source. So I cloned their github repos into a dir called /home/Sources, and did the configure make, make install stuff. Now I want to use them, I get C++ errors saying various headers can't be found.
[12:08] <C_minus> How can I point my C++ program to the /home/Sources folder where it can find the C++ headers it wants?
[12:09] <k1l> Annaka: 1.4 was release on 1.6.2016. so that is no surprise why that is not in the ubuntu 16.04 that was released in april.
[12:09] <C_minus> Or should I have put the sourecs in a different directory?
[12:09] <k1l> *18. 06.2016 was the release of the 1.4 version, to be precise
[12:10] <garshol> C_minus: You must define in the program where your source folder is.
[12:11] <garshol> C_minus: have a look here: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/36k2cdd4.aspx
[12:11] <hateball> ConsciousCreator: Logs are pretty useful ;)
[12:11] <ConsciousCreator> Hateball: Sure are :-)
[12:12] <Annaka> 16.04.1
[12:15] <ConsciousCreator> I've checked out my smb.conf on my server and made a few changes, then restarted the SAMBA service. Then I've tried to connect from my Win 7 Starter netbook PC...  I get the error: "Windows cannot access \\192.168.1.8. Check the spelling of the name. Otherwise, there might be a problem with your network. To try to identify and resolve network problems, click Diagnose"
[12:22] <django_> hey all
[12:22] <django_> gettin this eror
[12:22] <django_> Unable to get exclusive lock
[12:22] <django_> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first
[12:23] <hateball> !fixapt | django_
[12:23] <k1l> django_: read that message and think about what could be the issue.
[12:23] <Fuchs> django_: either there is an application running, check with  ps aux | egrep "dpkg|apt"  and if none is, remove the the lock file, as per above
[12:23] <Fuchs> django_: in some cases this also happens when you tried a command that needs root rights for the lock file as a regular user
[12:24] <k1l> django_: like running several programs that want to use one ressource. like running software center and apt on the package system at once.
[12:24] <django_> hmm that command fixed it
[12:24] <django_> why?
[12:25] <C_minus> garshol thanks. but even if I #include the absolute path, the thing I'm including then has loads of missing links inside it. I'll end up having to write a million #include statements with absolute paths.
[12:26] <Mickle> HI
[12:26] <Mickle> hELLOOOOOOOOOO
[12:27] <k1l> hi Mickle
[12:27] <Mickle> Hi k1l
[12:27] <Mickle> I have question
[12:27] <Mickle> how can i download apps from my ubuntu phone by usb not wifi
[12:28] <k1l> Mickle: for ubuntu touch suport better try #ubuntu-touch
[12:28] <chowlett> !touch | Mickle
[12:28] <Mickle> ok thank you k1l
[12:28] <Mickle> k1l Thank you
[12:30] <ConsciousCreator> I'm still unable to see any of my SAMBA shares from my Windows 7 Starter netbook... Here is my smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17966399/
[12:30] <ConsciousCreator> Can anyone spot any errors or things to improve in my smb.conf?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> ConsciousCreator, sorry about the wrong tip with ext2fsd, it's not written for servers over a lan, it's meant for accessing linux/ext partitions on the same pc
[12:34] <harro> ConsciousCreator: Samba can be a real bitch, have a look at NitroShare and see if it's what you're after
[12:35] <harro> ConsciousCreator: NitroShare is a small app that allows files to simply be "dragged-and-dropped" between machines on the same network. Linux, Mac, Windows, Android.
[12:35] <ikonia> or just use samba
[12:35] <harro> ConsciousCreator: https://github.com/nitroshare/nitroshare-desktop
[12:35] <harro> ConsciousCreator: You should have no difficulty installing NitroShare on your server. You can easily create a folder that is accessible by all users on the server and have NitroShare use that for receiving files
[12:35] <ikonia> which is pretty straight forward rather than pulling some external product
[12:35] <rudrab> any clue please?
[12:35] <ikonia> clue on what
[12:35] <rudrab> rudrab:  hi, I was looking for the .desktop file of Ubuntu Software, and havent found one
[12:36] <rudrab> is it rethemed version of org.gnome.Software? even if it is so, the i have not found and thing with Name=Ubuntu Software, where is the .desktop file or the corresponding icon?
[12:36] <rudrab> ikonia: ^
[12:36] <ikonia> the .desktop file /
[12:37] <ConsciousCreator> harro: Thanks for the recommendation. Sounds good. I'll look into it. :-)
[12:38] <rudrab> ikonia: in 16.04, there is no /usr/share/applications/*.desktop with Name=Ubuntu Software
[12:38] <smtp> yh i think they removed it
[12:39] <rudrab> so I am confused how I am getting the app with name Ubuntu Software
[12:40] <smtp> well i dont know oce i tried to look for it and i didnt find it
[12:41]  * rudrab confused
[12:41] <lyze> Using xubuntu so I don't know if ubuntu has that also: but can't you edit the file menu entries?
[12:41] <rudrab> smtp: same here
[12:41] <lyze> That would list the path to everything
[12:41] <lyze> rudrab, ↑
[12:42] <smtp> yh
[12:42] <Electro> hy
[12:42] <smtp> hy
[12:43] <Electro> i have a problem with usb mouse, after upgrade to 16.04
[12:43] <Electro> after login mouse dosnt work
[12:43] <smtp> what version of ubuntu is 32 or 64 bits
[12:44] <lyze> smtp, amd64 is 64 bit
[12:44] <rudrab> lyze: point is, for every app, there is a corresponding .desktop file with the same name
[12:44] <Electro> 64
[12:45] <lyze> rudrab, yeah and normally that program where you can edit it shows you the file / lets you remove/edit it
[12:45] <Red__> Quick question once again
[12:45] <garshol> C_minus: that will be no good. You should make it a library, and just include that.
[12:45] <rudrab> lyze: which is the program name?
[12:45] <garshol> C_minus: so that there are no need for multiples with absolute paths
[12:45] <Red__> Can I use the program Boot-repair in ubuntu to repair the Windows boot ladder
[12:46] <k1l> Red__: no. that is for ubuntu and grub, not the windows bootloader
[12:46] <k1l> Red__: ask ##windows how to repair the windows bootloader if needed.
[12:46] <Red__> on a site I can see it can restore mbr
[12:46] <C_minus> garshol: Yeah I don't really know what I'm doing with C++. And I don't want to annoy everyone with off-topic stuff so sorry about that. Is there any reading material you can point me towards? Perhaps PM me?
[12:46] <smtp> lyze , i saw that if you type in termianl this sudo rmmod usbhid
[12:46] <smtp> sudo modprobe usbhid it fixes it the problem is that after it restarts goes back to the same
[12:48] <zaggynl> are there any ubuntu based nas distros?
[12:48] <smtp> lyze: but you can create a script file and make it run every time the system boots
[12:51] <smtp> zaggynl: you could install ubuntu server with samba runs quite good
[12:52] <Electro> i use ubuntu server with samba and works very good
[12:53] <smtp> yh i know
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Electro, on windows?
[12:54] <Electro> yes
[12:55] <Electro> y have storage and back-up server under ubunru
[12:55] <Electro> ubuntu*
[12:55] <Electro> and 46 pc's with windows
[12:56] <smtp> any of you know when will directx 11 come to wine
[12:56] <Electro> do you use wine for games?
[12:57] <smtp> no i dont but i read that its gonna come to wine trought crossover
[12:57] <k1l> smtp: i guess only the #winehq guys will know
[12:57] <smtp> but that was a long time ago
[12:58] <smtp> k1l: well i guess
[13:03] <devster31> how can I install a newer version of coreutils from .deb packge in a diffferent location so as not to override the distribution binaries?
[13:10] <bdmc> I wonder whether anybody can point me in the right direction.  I am trying to upgrade my 14.04 LTS using a newly-created 16:04 LTS install disk.  However, when I boot from the 16.04 disk, it claims that there are no existing operating systems, and offers to clean everything and overwrite.  When I go in to manual partitioning, it recognizes the LVM logical volumes, and also the /dev/sda1 that had grub and the
[13:10] <bdmc> old kernels, although it calls that drive sdb.
[13:12] <maszlo> i have a ubuntu server issue that is driving me mad.  two sites on apache are accessable on 10.118.1.0/24. when client connects on vpn and gets on 10.118.3.0/24 they can access all other servers (windows and centos) but this server.  I have uninstalled ufw and tried to clear things out on iptables with no luck.  is there some where i am missing this settings keeping traffic from coming in?
[13:12] <jeffreylevesque> what does "ERROR: version of /sbin/initctl too old" mean?
[13:12] <jeffreylevesque> https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/issues/2153#issuecomment-228601358
[13:16] <Help_it> Can anybody explain why does this http://paste.ubuntu.com/17968438/ happens
[13:16] <Help_it> ??
[13:16] <Help_it> ?
[13:16] <maszlo> My ubuntu server that has this networking issue is 14.04.4 that is up to date.
[13:17] <Help_it> Can anybody explain why does this http://paste.ubuntu.com/17968438/ happens
[13:17] <Help_it> ??
[13:18] <k1l> Help_it: what ubuntu is this exactly? and does mv work?
[13:19] <Help_it> 16.04
[13:20] <Help_it> I need to rename the file ! why should I use mv ?
[13:20] <k1l> because that is what mv does
[13:20] <defekt> :)
[13:21] <k1l> mv file_old_name.log file_new_name.log
[13:21] <splashing> what is .clos domain anyone know that?
[13:22] <Help_it> thanks kll
[13:22] <Help_it> thanks k1l
[13:22] <k1l> Help_it: seems like rename command is a perl command and doesnt even do what you think it does.
[13:23] <maszlo> Does anyone have experience in routing / firewall in ubuntu?
[13:24] <Help_it> I checked man for it
[13:25] <k1l> maszlo: if you ask a specific question people might help
[13:26] <maszlo> i didnt want to keep flooding the channel..
[13:26] <maszlo> i have a ubuntu server issue that is driving me mad.  two sites on apache are accessable on 10.118.1.0/24. when client connects on vpn and gets on 10.118.3.0/24 they can access all other servers (windows and centos) but this server.  I have uninstalled ufw and tried to clear things out on iptables with no luck.  is there some where i am missing this settings keeping traffic from coming in?
[13:26] <maszlo> this is 14.04.4
[13:28] <zaggynl> aw, smtp left
[13:30] <Help_it> how to make a composite directory (like /distro and /distro/logs) with a single command. I mean to ask if there is any such ??
[13:30] <Help_it> ??
[13:32] <hateball> Help_it: mkdir -p
[13:32] <Help_it> -p then ?
[13:32] <Help_it> structuring?
[13:32] <hateball> Help_it: reading the man-page is useful
[13:32] <Help_it> ohk
[13:32] <hateball> Help_it: mkdir -p /your/full/path/here/as/long/as/you/like
[13:35] <Help_it> thanks hateball that worked
[13:35] <Help_it> !
[13:35] <moon__> *everyone* hates forgetting their ssh password
[13:39] <spupy> hey, anyone using a dock (docky, etc) with fluxbox? I tried docky and cairo and both have weird behavior where they prevent window clicks even when hidden.
[13:44] <Help_it> Is there any exact command to print all users except  "vi /etc/passwd" or modifications over it (like cut or grep) ?
[13:44] <Help_it> ??
[13:44] <moon__> Eh, try google?
[13:44] <Fuchs> moon__: not really welcome here
[13:44] <moon__> Sorry
[13:45] <Help_it> What ?
[13:45] <Fuchs> Help_it: getent can do it
[13:45] <Fuchs> Help_it: and should be used, given that passwd is not the only user provider on some systems
[13:46] <Fuchs> (note that the output is the very same as /etc/passwd if you only have that, so you'd end up with cut again if you just want the username)
[13:47] <Fuchs> Help_it: what is the use case?
[13:47] <Help_it> I was scripting for some project.
[13:47] <Help_it> fuchs
[13:48] <Fuchs> Help_it: use getent and cut, probably
[13:48] <Fuchs> getent passwd | cut -d':' -f 1       (note that this will list all users, including system ones)
[13:51] <Help_it> Fuchs : ya that still outputs their other info like shell allocated and that was achieved by vi editor too (as vi /etc/passwd | cut ...)!
[13:53] <Fuchs> Help_it: what is the issue with that?
[13:57] <akik> first time i see that you could pipe from vi to something else(?)
[13:57] <akik> is that even possible?
[13:58] <django_> hey
[13:59] <django_> where is virtual box insalled after installing with GDEBI
[13:59] <django_> n/m
[14:02] <RobsBoat> Hi.  I'm switching over to Ubuntu.  I'm working on getting nfs client working.  In Ubuntu I see that nfs client options are set in "/etc/default/nfs-common".
[14:02] <RobsBoat> Where is that file documented?  I'm looking for the available parameters and their defaults?  Ubuntu's nfs options file is different that my old OS's.
[14:03] <Help_it> Is it possible that a user can get the info of commands priviledged to it!
[14:03] <Help_it> ?
[14:03] <Help_it> ??
[14:03] <Pici> Help_it: not really. commands don't check to see if a user can run them until they themselves are run.
[14:04] <Fuchs> depends a bit on what prevents the user to run them,
[14:05] <Fuchs> you can of course check the rights and, if available, ACL
[14:05] <Help_it> But it may be possible that he can check what specific directories of commands are allowed to him (like /sbin/something)?
[14:06] <Help_it> ya ACL I think is possible to check !
[14:07] <Fuchs> Help_it: these are in $PATH, but that's quite irrelevant to actual permissions
[14:08] <Fuchs> e.g. users can very well execute commands outside of $PATH if they have the needed permissions, so if you'd put something in /sbin/ and give o +x, then everybody could happily execute that
[14:08] <jeffreylevesque_> what does "ERROR: version of /sbin/initctl too old" mean?
[14:09] <Help_it> $PATH is basically used for invoking scripts that kernel requires to search for them ?
[14:09] <Help_it> !
[14:10] <lyze> jeffreylevesque, the program is too old
[14:10] <jeffreylevesque> can i update it?
[14:11] <k1l> jeffreylevesque: is it a docker issue? or another vm?
[14:11] <jeffreylevesque> i have the following problem - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/issues/2153#issuecomment-228601358
[14:11] <jeffreylevesque> docker
[14:11] <Fuchs> Help_it: $PATH is basically so you don't have to type the full path
[14:11] <Fuchs> Help_it: it's just convenience
[14:11] <k1l> jeffreylevesque: that is a docker issue.
[14:11] <jeffreylevesque> well, to be honest
[14:11] <jeffreylevesque> i'm not sure what issue this is
[14:12] <jeffreylevesque> i know i'm using docker, and ubuntu inside it
[14:12] <jeffreylevesque> and i get this error
[14:12] <Help_it> And ya one file for sudoers is there that allows the listing of permitted directories and what I doubt is that if only sudo commands can priviledged through it ! ??
[14:12] <Help_it> ??
[14:12] <\9> what?
[14:13] <k1l> jeffreylevesque: read this: http://phusion.github.io/baseimage-docker/
[14:21] <Jordan_U> Help_it: I don't understand your question. Please rephrase it.
[14:21] <narirembo> hello
[14:22] <narirembo> тоже пользуешься линуксом
[14:22] <k1l> !ru | narirembo
[14:23] <Help_it> I need to control the commands priviledged to users. How to do that's the question!
[14:25] <Help_it> By the way, what is the default passwd allocated to new users ?
[14:30] <Jordan_U> Help_it: There is none. You provide a password when creating a new user.
[14:30] <Jordan_U> Help_it: What specifically do you want to limit users from doing?
[14:31] <arzock> hi
[14:32] <Help_it> I added a user with useradd and when I tried to login to that user, it prompted me to enter pass though it did not asked to while using useradd !
[14:32] <tgm4883> Help_it: you need to set it then using 'passwd <user>'
[14:32] <Help_it> * asked to set
[14:33] <Help_it> I asked what is that default pass that it asks for !
[14:34] <Help_it> By the way can you guess the file that controls it ??
[14:34] <Help_it> ?
[14:34] <trijntje> Help_it: there is no default password, when you create a user it has no password
[14:35] <trijntje> these are things you should probably try looking up yourself online first, instead of asking here
[14:36] <Help_it> Ohk you can try adding a user and then login to that user without setting passwd from other than root then reply what you observe!
[14:36] <Help_it> * and from user other than root
[14:37] <tgm4883> Help_it: you have to set the password. There is no default password
[14:37] <sipior> Help_it: adduser is a better utility; useradd is rather low-level. (i agree the name confusion is not helpful)
[14:38] <trijntje> Help_it: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/add-a-user-on-ubuntu-server
[14:38] <kembrek> I'm running ubuntu 15.10 and I'm trying to use systemd to run a script after plugging in a usb thumbdrive
[14:38] <kembrek> does anyone have a wrking example service I could have a look at please?
[14:39] <kembrek> Also trie udev as well and that didn't work either
[14:40] <trijntje> kembrek: if you figure it out please post it here, I've never got it working myself either
[14:41] <DustyNuts> Can you perhaps elaborate on what exactly you would like to achieve?
[14:41] <ducasse> kembrek: there are example udev scripts on the archwiki you could look at.
[14:41] <ducasse> well, rules, not scripts.
[14:42] <kembrek> DustyNuts: plug in the USB stick and magic - start running rsync to it
[14:42] <GnomeKris> So, the people over in #ubuntu-steam are really helpful. /s
[14:42] <kembrek> trijntje: geen problem
[14:43] <GnomeKris> Maybe you guys might know why my games aren't loading?>
[14:43] <lyze> !ask | GnomeKris
[14:44] <GnomeKris> A handful of my games won't load. They display the "Preparing to Launch" dialogue, then it goes away, and the game doesn't load
[14:44] <GnomeKris> Anyone experience this before? Google is no help/
[14:45] <trijntje> kembrek: bedankt ;)
[14:46] <BluesKaj> GnomeKris, check your /var/log syslog for errors launching the games
[14:46] <kembrek> trijntje, don't hold your breath though!
[14:48] <GnomeKris> I see no errors in that file BluesKaj
[14:48] <GnomeKris> Want a pastebin?\
[14:48] <BluesKaj> sure
[14:49] <GnomeKris> http://pastebin.com/ctBAgePN
[14:52] <BluesKaj> GnomeKris, what's the output if try to lauch the game with dbus-launch "nameofgame"
[14:53] <BluesKaj> in the terminal
[14:54] <Help_it> I'm still troubled adding a user. See http://pastebin.com/az5G9SQe.
[14:55] <ash_workz> ^z puts your current process in the background, right?
[14:55] <ash_workz> how do you get it back?
[14:55] <ducasse> Help_it: use adduser, which creates homedirs etc.
[14:56] <GnomeKris> http://pastebin.com/mwEy7n8F BluesKajj
[14:56] <GnomeKris> gah, BluesKaj
[14:56] <ash_workz> funny that there's adduser and useradd
[14:56] <ducasse> ash_workz: 'fg jobnr'
[14:57] <ash_workz> ducasse: that just prints `fg jobnr` in the terminal
[14:57] <gerard_> Hi I'm new on Ubuntu 1604. I have a problem that my video does not come on.
[14:57] <ducasse> jobnr = job number, sorry for the shorthand :)
[14:57] <ducasse> ash_workz: ^^
[14:57] <ash_workz> ducasse: no, I understood, but I mean it's literally just typing into the terminal
[14:58] <ash_workz> oh
[14:58] <diskin> ash_workz, useradd is a non-interactive one
[14:58] <ash_workz> I guess a simple `enter` did the trick o.o
[14:58] <ash_workz> diskin: yeah, I know one of them is highly recommended over the other
[14:58] <ash_workz> which I assume is adduser
[14:58] <BluesKaj> GnomeKris,  "rm: cannot remove ‘/home/kristopher/.steam/steam" the command is trying to remove ???
[14:59] <ash_workz> diskin: but that's tricky for people with dyslexia :(
[15:01] <ash_workz> pattern still wasn't found when I escaped the parens
[15:01] <GnomeKris> I don't know, that baffled me too. It shouldn't be removing anything.
[15:01] <GnomeKris> All my games are installed on a secondary hard drive if that means anything.
[15:01] <Amarizi> Hi guys I'm new on UBUNTU 16.04. On SKYPE the video does not work. Ehat to do?
[15:02] <ash_workz> Amarizi: fyi: skype video for multi-person chat (>=3) is not supported
[15:02] <BluesKaj> GnomeKris, no , I keep all our media on sata outboard drive too
[15:03] <Amarizi> Thanks ash. Will take it from there.
[15:06] <ash_workz> no  >= compose key sequence?
[15:06] <ash_workz> :(
[15:06] <ash_workz> oops
[15:07] <ash_workz> I didn't clarify
[15:07] <ash_workz> >= 3 *people*
[15:07] <ash_workz> not version 3
[15:18] <Jrminot> What could be some of the possible causes of an ubuntu server 14.04 syslog error: hpetl: lost 9600 rtc interrupts
[15:19] <Jrminot> Not sure how to investigate
[15:19] <GnomeKris> damn this shotty modem
[15:19] <kembrek> trijntje: I followed this tutorial and it worked in Ubuntu 15.10 - https://coreos.com/os/docs/latest/using-systemd-and-udev-rules.html
[15:19] <GnomeKris> Did I miss anything?
[15:19] <havock> PLease let me know if this is the wrong space but I cannot get Apache to accept SSL connections on my Ubuntu 14.04 install
[15:20] <blib> does anyone have a preseed.cfg that works for ubunbtu 14.04.4 desktop?
[15:20] <akik> havock: private key and cert in place? port 443 open? check logs
[15:21] <havock> akik: Yes and yes, port 443 is open on the router and I don't believe I have a firewall in place (I will check that right now) and the logs are empty
[15:21] <trijntje> kembrek: Cool, thats good the know. I've bookmarked that tutorial
[15:22] <akik> havock: does httpd even start up? "sudo netstat -tulpan | grep LISTEN"
[15:22] <havock> akik: oh yes, http connections work just fine
[15:22] <akik> havock: is it binding to port 443 ?
[15:23] <diegoaguilar> Hello, using Ubuntu GNOME 16
[15:23] <dino> test
[15:23] <diegoaguilar> I have an ATI card, didnt install any propietary drivers yet
[15:23] <havock> akik: good question, and unfortunately one I can't answer right now because my machine is refusing ssh connections
[15:23] <diegoaguilar> but it wont recognize the second monitor
[15:23] <diegoaguilar> .(
[15:23] <diegoaguilar> any solution?
[15:25] <aristotle2600> hi, im running Ubuntu 16.04 in HyperV and it's really, really slow.  I gave it 8 GB RAM and 8 cores.  Are there any Ubuntu-specific tweaks I should do?
[15:31] <sipior> aristotle2600: are you using emulated devices?
[15:32] <tgm4883> aristotle2600: what specs does your host have?
[15:35] <aristotle2600> tgm4883: win 10 i7 2.4 GHZ, 16 GB ram, 64bit, radeon 6700M video card
[15:35] <aristotle2600> sipior: dont know?  when i set up the vm it didnt specifically ask me; I thought that was just the norm
[15:36] <duckx0r> I have a server with 2 DVR cards in it (I believe this is one of them http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Linovision-VEC-5208HFVI-DVR-Card-featured_440685779.html), however the hard drive died and I wanted to reinstall it with Linux. I now have the latest Ubuntu on it, however there are no /dev/video* devices. Is there any way to get this card to be recognized by the OS?
[15:36] <tgm4883> Artemis3: I'm not sure what you mean by slow, and also I'm unsure what sort of driver support ubuntu would have for hyper-v
[15:36] <tgm4883> That said, I wouldn't give a VM 8 cores when the host only has max 8 cores
[15:36] <moon__> I run a bot that gives you direct access to a Bash shell on Ubuntu *slightly ontopic*
[15:36] <akik> tgm4883: microsoft has developed hyper-v drivers for linux kernel
[15:37] <moon__> (mind you, if someone is really intrested, pm me)
[15:37] <tgm4883> akik: yea, but how good are they? There is a difference between "works" and "work well"
[15:37] <sipior> aristotle2600: make sure you have the linux-virtual package installed on the guest, and that you're using that kernel.
[15:37] <aristotle2600> akik: that sounds like something id want; how do i go about using those?
[15:37] <aristotle2600> sipior: thanks, let me check that
[15:38] <akik> aristotle2600: they are included in the linux kernel, i remember they start with hv_
[15:38] <de-facto> from where can i get "os-update.virtual"? Gnome Software notified me that there are updates, when i click that notification it complains about not having found "os-update.virtual" whatever that is :(
[15:38] <akik> aristotle2600: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn531029.aspx
[15:38] <tgm4883> sipior: the linux-virtual package is pointless in 16.04
[15:38] <sipior> tgm4883: is it?
[15:38] <moon__> (ok, someone is intrested: the bot runs in #hbot)
[15:39] <akik> aristotle2600: "lsmod | grep hv" return anything?
[15:39] <AmiMoench> Hi, anyone familiar with installing various keyboard mappings, specifically the IPA keyboard mapping?
[15:40] <tgm4883> sipior: yea, it's just a meta package to add the default kernel
[15:41] <sipior> tgm4883: microsoft documentation seems to imply the appropriate package for 16.04 is linux-virtual-lts-xenial.
[15:41] <blib> how do I format a 2GB usb drive in ubuntu?
[15:41] <aristotle2600> akik: yes, hv_[balloon | netvsc | utils | storvsc | vmbus]
[15:41] <blib> in fat
[15:41] <tgm4883> sipior: ok, so then microsoft documentation is wrong then
[15:42] <sipior> tgm4883: or you are.
[15:42] <akik> aristotle2600: how do you experience the slowness?
[15:42] <tgm4883> sipior: well I'm looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/linux-virtual-lts-xenial and following the package dependency chain to see what package gets installed that actually has stuff in it. But you go ahead and decide which one of us is wrong ;)
[15:43] <aristotle2600> akik: opening a window has that stuttered feel, where you see the window growing frame by frame.  about .8 seconds between each frame, maybe 6-8 frames
[15:44] <akik> aristotle2600: i wonder if it's just the hyper-v manager. can you get a graphical remote desktop installed and try it?
[15:46] <aristotle2600> akik: i can ask, but im not sure theres any linux boxes to remote into.  its a work thing, and im trying out linux here on a local vm; i think thats really the only option.  I was alos given the option to use the oracle vm, but its heavily preferred to use hyperv
[15:46] <akik> aristotle2600: i meant if you can install the remote desktop into your local vm
[15:47] <aristotle2600> oh, so use a desktop client native to the host and connect to the vm?
[15:48] <akik> aristotle2600: yes
[15:48] <akik> aristotle2600: i'm not sure if it's still vnc that is used with ubuntu default setup
[15:49] <akik> i have kubuntu installed on this machine and it's quite difficult to have also unity installed at the same time
[15:49] <aristotle2600> thats....an interesting idea.  i dont know how id do that; i use the ms virtual desktop already to connect to a windoews box, can it be used to connect to ubuntu as well?  on the same system?  will it even see it as the same system?
[15:50] <akik> aristotle2600: there are vnc clients for windows also
[15:51] <akik> aristotle2600: there's also xrdp for linux that can be accessed with mstsc but it's not this same thing
[15:51] <aristotle2600> so what do i tell the vnc to connect to?  localhost?
[15:51] <aristotle2600> client i mean
[15:51] <akik> aristotle2600: you first need to setup the ubuntu remote desktop
[15:52] <aristotle2600> right; lemme install that
[15:52] <akik> aristotle2600: after that you can just use the ip address of your host
[15:52] <akik> aristotle2600: vnc display 1 is port 5900, display 2 is port 5901 etc.
[15:52] <a-warrior> Hello, I'm using ubuntu 16.04 and can't install the package "libapache2-mod-proxy-html" does anyone knows if I should add a ppa or if this package was moved? thanks
[15:53] <aristotle2600> i think i want x11VNC Server?
[15:53] <guest> I am using rsync --include="*201606*" but it is downloading everything - how can I rsync a whole directory structure, keeping its structure, but only transferring files with a pattern in the name?
[15:54] <akik> aristotle2600: yes i think that's it
[15:56] <aristotle2600> should i set it to listen on localhost?
[15:56] <aristotle2600> actually, let me see if i can look at my ip addresses
[15:56] <akik> aristotle2600: do you have normal tcp/ip address other than localhost?
[15:56] <akik> it could work on localhost too if your client is on the same machine
[15:58] <akik> aristotle2600: btw 8 gigs ram and 8 cores is plenty much
[15:59] <Alshulaih> Ugh :(
[15:59] <craptalk> i have core i3 processor and 2 gb RAM, and stil slow working on ubuntu 16.04, why?
[16:00] <craptalk> does it actually have such greater sys req?
[16:00] <aristotle2600> akik: yeah, I thought maybe just throwing resources at it would make it faster.  no such luck though.  How do you find your ip address on win10?
[16:00] <craptalk> i read it before mine was better than enough
[16:00] <akik> aristotle2600: ipconfig /all
[16:01] <akik> aristotle2600: i just found out that unity has its own remote desktop setup wizard :P
[16:01] <akik> aristotle2600: https://www.unixmen.com/how-to-use-remote-desktop-in-ubuntu/
[16:02] <aristotle2600> akik: ok, local machine and ubuntu vm have different ip addresses, only the last octet is different though
[16:03] <aristotle2600> same gateway though
[16:05] <aristotle2600> thats for Natty; is that a very old version of ubuntu?
[16:05] <akik> aristotle2600: yes, about 5 years
[16:06] <aristotle2600> still relevent i hope?
[16:06] <akik> aristotle2600: i think you should upgrade it soonish
[16:07] <aristotle2600> i mean the link you sent, references natty; i have xenia
[16:07] <akik> ohh
[16:07] <akik> aristotle2600: i don't use unity so it's a bit difficult to test
[16:08] <akik> i need to find a solution for that
[16:08] <aristotle2600> ok, ill poke at it some; any insight on drivers on the linux side?  there seemed to be disagreement before
[16:09] <tgm4883> aristotle2600: I'd bump your specs to like 2 CPU, 4GB ram to start with
[16:09] <akik> aristotle2600: it's not so usual to use hyper-v manager. virtualbox is used more often
[16:09] <aristotle2600> not my choice, sadly
[16:11] <aristotle2600> someone also mentioned about emulating devices; is that something i need to look at, and is emulation goin g to be faster or slower?
[16:12] <Yo_Mama> hey u
[16:12] <Yo_Mama> why u no answer your phone
[16:12] <Yo_Mama> and then call me :)
[16:12] <Yo_Mama> are u here?
[16:12] <tgm4883> aristotle2600: do you have other VMs also running on this machine?
[16:12] <aristotle2600> tgm4883: nope
[16:12] <akik> Yo_Mama: this is ubuntu support chat
[16:12] <Yo_Mama> oh shit, sorry my bad
[16:13] <akik> aristotle2600: i don't know about the emulation stuff
[16:15] <Jordan_U> aristotle2600: If you're not getting accelerated 3D, and you probably aren't, then you will probabky be much better off with a window manager that dissn't use OpenGL.
[16:15] <AmiMoench> nvm... figured it out. aɐaæaαa̟
[16:15] <Jordan_U> aristotle2600: Try Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[16:19] <aristotle2600> Jordan_U: hmmmm, yeah i was wondering if maybe it was a video thing.  is there a way to look more into the acceleration, see if i have it, and get it if i dont?  failing that, would just installing a different window manager suffice?
[16:19] <Jordan_U> aristotle2600: glxinfo
[16:19] <aristotle2600> of course, if i do the remote desktop thing it shouldn't matter
[16:20] <akik> aristotle2600: oh yea sorry i forgot. ubuntu has set the default desktop to require 3d acceleration
[16:20] <aristotle2600> not installed; does that mean no 3d acc, or i just need the package to find out?
[16:20] <Jordan_U> aristotle2600: Need the package to find out.
[16:21] <aristotle2600> ok one sec
[16:23] <aristotle2600> anything in particular i need to look at, or should i just put up a pastebin of the whole output?
[16:23] <ilmaisin> hi
[16:24] <Jordan_U> aristotle2600: Pastebin please.
[16:24] <ilmaisin> is there anything i could do about the owncloud-client package that is broken and no one seems to be interested in fixing or upgrading it
[16:24] <ilmaisin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/owncloud-client/+bug/1572321
[16:26] <k1l> ilmaisin: owncloud made an own repo due to linux distributions shipping "too old" versions.
[16:26] <k1l> ilmaisin: right now the owncloud project did split up and there is now nextcloud, too. they offer a snap package due to .deb packaging was to complicated.
[16:26] <aristotle2600> http://www.pastebin.com/C6pmxsiD
[16:28] <ilmaisin> k1l: i need to check out that nextcloud thing, owncloud's own repo is unfortunately broken for 16.04 because they use obsolete and insecure sha1 algorithm that is blacklisted in 16.04's apt
[16:29] <Heebie> Hello. I'm having trouble figuring out what the effective "tick rate" is for the kernel in 14.04 LTS. (I'm tuning some ZFS items that depend on the tick-rate to determine some of their tunings.)
[16:29] <xangua> Snaps work on Ubuntu, arch Linux and Fedora currently
[16:30] <etropes> hi
[16:30] <akik> ilmaisin: is the sha1 warning just a warning?
[16:30] <akik> the same happened with google chrome repo
[16:31] <ilmaisin> just wonder what kind of idiot uses sha1 for anything security related in 2016
[16:31] <akik> google did it :)
[16:32] <k1l> well, to be honest: that was the standard some time ago and no one bothered to change that until now.
[16:32] <etropes> hi
[16:32] <nacc> Heebie: do you mean CONFIG_HZ? look at the .config used to build the kernel (should be in /boot). But keep in mind the effect of NO_HZ and tickless idle. In what way does ZFS depend on the number of jiffies in a second in the kernel?
[16:34] <Heebie> nacc: There are several conflicting items in the config.   ZFS has several settings that allow execution only every <N> "ticks".  Based on a tick-rate of 1,000, it allows up to 250 IOPS for that function by default.  Based on 250, that's down to 62.5 IOPS, so performance is affected by a factor of four.
[16:34] <ilmaisin> hmm, about that snap vs flatpak thing, are there any plans to make flatpak available in ubuntu as an option?
[16:36] <nacc> Heebie: conflicting? what do you mean?
[16:37] <nacc> Heebie: that sounds like a ZFS issue :)
[16:38] <Heebie> nacc: CONFIG_NO_HZ_COMMON=Y, CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y, CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_SYSIDLE=y, CONFIG_NO_HZ=y, CONFIG_HZ_250=Y, CONFIG_HZ=250  << These are all in the CONFIG (for 14.04 and 12.04) and they appear to conflict with each other.
[16:39] <nacc> Heebie: why do they conflict? I think you need to read about the what they mean, before you assert that.
[16:39] <nacc> (hint: they don't conflict)
[16:41] <wuseman> Whats the default file manager in kubuntu+
[16:41] <Heebie> nacc: Most say there is no HZ, but two say it's 250 HZ.. without a deeper understanding of what each does.. there's no way to tell if they "really" conflict or not.. they LOOK like they conflict.  This is why I need to determine the "effective" tick rate of the system, in order to base the ZFS settings on that approximate value, rather than just making up numbers out of thin air.
[16:41] <akik> wuseman: dolphin
[16:41] <wuseman> thanks
[16:41] <wuseman> Ya, worked fine.
[16:41] <nacc> Heebie: the "effective" tick rate is 100% non-deterministic.
[16:42] <nacc> Heebie: as it's based strictly upon how idle your system is or isn't
[16:42] <nacc> Heebie: i would suggest you look to gain a deeper understanding of what each does, at this point.
[16:42] <nacc> Heebie: and/or ask the ZFS developers to do so
[16:42] <ilmaisin> k1l: so is there any way to ask developers to pay attention to the bug i linked, as it is quite problematic on laptops
[16:43] <aristotle2600> http://www.pastebin.com/C6pmxsiD Jordan_U
[16:44] <nacc> Heebie: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/timers/NO_HZ.txt e.g.
[16:44] <Heebie> nacc: I have a feeling it's something where the ZFS developers would say it's something for kernel developers to deal with.. and kernel developers would say it's for the ZFS developers to deal with.  I'll take a peek at that link.  Thansk.
[16:45] <Heebie> Thanks, even.
[16:45] <nacc> Heebie: ZFS is attempting to use a kernel internal variable to determine something else, probably as an approximation for what they really want to know. I would side with the kernel developers. Also, I don't use ZFS :)
[16:48] <zzi> alt-1
[16:57] <vincent_1> nick zzi
[17:03]  * eelstrebor is wondering why this suddenly started happening: dovecot: imap-login: Fatal: Can't load private ssl_key: Key is for a different cert than ssl_cert
[17:10] <eelstrebor> i think i know what happened. my letsencrypt cert expired and i forgot to configure the firewall to allow the update.
[17:12] <Foloex> hello world
[17:12] <Foloex> is there a(n easy) way to connect to a remote VNC directly from the greeter ?
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> Foloex  that was possible with GDM, not sure if it can be done with LightDM, but you *can* install GDM
[17:14] <Foloex> MonkeyDust: ok, I'll look more closely into GDM
[17:14] <Foloex> I easily find stuff about activating a VNC server on the greeter but not much about connecting from the greeter...
[17:29] <constantinople> python
[17:29] <constantinople> #python
[17:30] <Joad> hi. have error in lubuntu, when i run passwd command in terminal and try to enter my current password i get "Authentication token manipulation error" ideas on what the problem could be?
[17:30] <constantinople> #python
[17:30] <Joad> think ur looking for "/join #python"
[17:30] <constantinople> oh thanks
[17:30] <Joad> np
[17:32] <Joad> also when i run sudo commands, like to install things, it prompts for a password but then only gives me 3 secs or so to enter anything.  think my mouse is randomly clicking, maybe randomly hitting enter (unintentionally)
[17:34] <johntittor2000> Hello
[17:34] <johntittor2000> Anybody has gnome?
[17:34] <compdoc> I think the mate desktop is gnome-ish
[17:34] <KajiMaster> XFCE fan. Haven't used Gnome in many years
[17:34] <johntittor2000> I have an issue with gnome
[17:35] <constantinople> NickServ not emailing me confirmation
[17:35] <constantinople> ???
[17:35] <HackerII> mate is for men.
[17:35] <compdoc> <- manly man
[17:36] <constantinople> ???
[17:38] <Joad> idk constantinople. do u need ur nick confirmed?
[17:38] <constantinople> yes
[17:38] <constantinople> how this work?
[17:38] <dax> #freenode for network support, not here
[17:38] <Joad> @compdoc @hackerII linux is cool and all but i'm not sure it's manly
[17:39] <dax> or PM Swant or e, they're both online network staffers
[17:46] <Guest81491> ??
[17:46] <Guest81491> ?
[17:46] <Joad> !
[17:47] <Mega> Good evening. Could someone tell me please, why might my ~/.ssh/known_hosts suddenly be changed? Is it possible I have a vulnerability on my PC?
[17:48] <Mega> Or there is a standard task in Ubuntu, that updates known_hosts from time to time?
[17:49] <python90210> why is it taking so long to VERIFY REGISTER?
[17:50] <OerHeks> python90210, you know where to ask, #freenode
[17:50] <python90210> yeah you gotta be registered to ask
[17:50] <Guest81491> What is the file for root history ?
[17:50] <Guest81491> ??
[17:50] <OerHeks> no, you will be voiced when it is your turn
[17:50] <Guest81491> ?
[17:50] <amfrank> python90210: Ask the question in the channel #freenode
[17:53] <curlyears> how many of you have seen the Nano Pi?   It can run ubuntu:  http://www.nanopi.org/
[17:54] <teward> !offtopic | curlyears
[17:55] <akik> i installed unity onto a kubuntu installation. now unity works ok but the indicators for network/audio etc. are missing. which application takes care of them?
[18:02] <amfrank> akik: try some other themes
[18:02] <amfrank> akik: that may fix your issue
[18:03] <vook> How can I view a  list of services and their statuses (As enabled or disabled) in Ubuntu 14.04 (similar to chkconfig --list or rc-config list)?
[18:03] <akik> amfrank: i changed from ambiance to radiance but nothing changed in the indicator area
[18:05] <amfrank> akik: if the icon is missing then there is some other issues. did you try logging in again.
[18:05] <akik> amfrank: yes i rebooted just a minute ago
[18:06] <amfrank>  akik: oops.. then there is some other issue. I'm not sure about kubuntu.
[18:06] <akik> amfrank: can you check which indicator processes you have running?
[18:09] <diskin> Can't fix "white-on-yellow" tool-tips in Skype whatever I choose for "Style" in settings. Anyone had luck with this problem?
[18:11] <Guest55164> Hi. How do I change ubuntu to use dual monitor by default? When I plug in my monitor to my laptop's displayport then it automatically goes to duplicate mode. I want default to be dual mode.
[18:13] <arooni> id like to have program run after returning from suspend.  how can i do this (ubuntu 14.04 laptop)
[18:14] <CodeMouse92> Guest55164: In my experience, if you set that after hooking up the monitor, it should keep the default. But...I take it that you already selected the Dual option in the settings after connecting the monitor?
[18:14] <sruli> hi, does anyone know how to set offset on backing file?
[18:17] <amfrank> akik: Now I'm office. here i have redhat.
[18:17] <Guest55164> Yes, I have to set it manually every time
[18:17] <Guest55164> And I would like it to be automatic.
[18:17] <diskin> arooni, check http://superuser.com/questions/733333/how-do-i-run-commands-on-suspend-return-from-suspend
[18:18] <akik> amfrank: reading something on the net, i might be missing 'panel' ? there's nothing in the top bar
[18:19] <arooni> diskin thanks;  could i just call my script in ~/bin/ from that resume script?
[18:19] <diskin> arooni, why not?
[18:20] <arooni> i'm not strong in the ways of shell scripting haha
 : So you dont have a panel??
[18:21] <diskin> arooni, perhaps it would be better to keep these scripts outside your home dir, to make it more secure.
[18:21] <akik> amfrank: the top bar only shows the application name that i'm using
[18:21] <arooni> diskin interesting; why would that approach make it more secure?
[18:23] <qwertzlcoatl> hi guys my laptop had boot problems so i formatted and installed ubuntu now my display looks like this : http://imgur.com/a/xjY4C - Is there anything I can do software wise or is it hardware problem?
[18:24] <amfrank>  akik: oh.. so your right side is completely empty??? did you tried unity-tweak tool.
[18:24] <amfrank> ??
[18:24] <strayArch> where is the proper place to save log files, if the program running doesn't have root or syslog privileges
[18:25] <akik> amfrank: nothing on the right. on the left is the dash and on top it's showing the application name. i didn't try unity tweak tool
[18:26] <strayArch> is it ```.local/share/```?
[18:27] <amfrank> akik: please try that. You will get options for the panel. just disable and enable it. I faced the same issues in ubuntu. It resolved after i switching the themes. i changed the theme to the default one and later I changed it back to the desired one. If got fixed.
[18:27] <diskin> arooni, because the scripts in /etc can only be modified by root (sudo), and scripts in your home directory can be modified by you (or by scripts/programs run by you)
[18:27] <akik> amfrank: i can see the panel settings but there's no off/on switch
[18:28] <diskin> strayArch, perhaps ~/.program_name/logs ?
[18:28] <eggggs> qwertzlcoatl, have u had ubuntu installed before
[18:29] <strayArch> diskin, that sounds a bit better. Thanks!
[18:38] <poseidon> Anyone here use an integrated graphics card like Intel HD Graphics 520 in a laptop?
[18:38] <poseidon> Any major cons to it?
[18:39] <sky> hiyo
[18:39] <sky> setup a 16.04 lts server, insstalled postfix. I notice my log mesasges are going to /var/log/syslog but not /var/log/mail.log
[18:39] <sky> (mail server msgs that is)
[18:39] <sky> in fact, no /var/log/mail.log exists
[18:39] <azure32> poseidon: Are you wanting to play games on said laptop?
[18:39] <sky> is this expected?
[18:40] <amfrank> akik: change the theme and try.... if it is completely missing then I think some issues.
[18:40] <poseidon> azure32: not particularly
[18:40] <poseidon> Is that the only big con?
[18:40] <amfrank> this is very common GNOME also.
[18:41] <azure32> poseidon: I have one on the laptop I am using. No cons except that it can't run much in the gaming department
[18:42] <azure32> poseidon: also if you do play any games it will run hot
[18:42] <azure32> poseidon: but if you aren't planning to then no problems
[18:43] <azure32> poseidon: what are you going to use one for?
[18:45] <diskin> sky, I remember there was a "simplification" of logs starting in some earlier (12.04?) Ubuntu
[18:46] <sky> not too familiar with ubuntuy stuff, plenty of unix experience
[18:46] <sky> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/postfix.html mentions /var/log/mail.log
[18:46] <sky> so thats maybe out of date?
[18:46] <akik> amfrank: no go. should i have a panel process running?
[18:46] <sky> or something. dunno
[18:47] <sky> diskin: would appreciate any leads
[18:47] <nacc> sky: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:47] <diskin> sky, http://askubuntu.com/questions/394724/where-are-the-postfix-log-files
[18:48] <akik> on unity, is there a panel process running?
[18:48] <Guest79757> Boa tarde
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[18:49] <sky> diskin: that links not much good. some comment says installed rsyslog which makes no ense
[18:49] <sky> will try in -server
[18:49] <sky> thanks
[18:49] <Guest79757> Ok, tanks.
[18:50] <diskin> sky, yes, rsyslog seems to be installed already. then check /etc/rsyslog* stuff
[18:50] <Guest79757> Okay, can help me get a question about iSCSI ?
[18:50] <sky> diskin: thats for remote logging
[18:50] <nacc> sky: it's also general syslog configuration
[18:51] <amfrank> akik: I dont have an unity based machine to check now.
[18:51] <nacc> sky: e.g.: /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf:mail.*-/var/log/mail.log
[18:51] <diskin> sky, yeah, it is being used for local logging
[18:51] <sky> hrm, so the guide needs updates eh
[18:52] <sky> nacc: are you sayin i need to add rsyslog settings?
[18:53] <nacc> sky: i'm saying if you installed rsyslog, it'll do that automatically
[18:53] <sky> no, I didnt. but it does seem installed already
[18:53] <sky> its not something I have installed
[18:54] <sky> im confused
[18:54] <Jordan_U> sky: Does "journalctl --unit postfix" give you what you need?
[18:54] <sky> Jordan_U: sure. I see the postfix log stuff in syslog. its the same stuff
[18:55] <sky> I was just kinda shocked there wasnt a /var/log/mail.log being created
[18:55] <arooni> i'm reading http://superuser.com/questions/733333/how-do-i-run-commands-on-suspend-return-from-suspend  ;; but i dont understand how i can do the final instruction "into e.g. 99-myhooks.sh and make it executable."
[18:55] <sky> executable is a permission. chmod+x
[18:55] <nacc> sky: iirc, rsyslog is installed by default
[18:55] <nacc> *iiuc
[18:56] <sky> nacc: i think so. its installed
[18:56] <nacc> sky: i'd check that same file (/etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf)
[18:57] <sky> its got mail.*-/var/log/mail.log
[18:57] <sky> whats the minus do?
[18:57] <nacc> you *might* need to `touch /var/log/mail.log`, although that seems surprising
[18:58] <nacc> "To selectively disable syncing for certain  files,  you
[18:58] <nacc>        may prefix the file path with a minus sign ("-")"
[18:58] <sky> there is also a postfix.conf in that dir
[18:58] <nacc> sky: `man rsyslog.conf`
[18:58] <sky> $AddUnixListenSocket /var/spool/postfix/dev/log
[18:59] <Guest67425> why im guest 6742? how do i login?
[18:59] <Jordan_U> arooni: Meaning create a shell script following the template given and save it in /etc/pm/sleep.d/99-myhooks.sh . Thay said, I don't think hooks saved there are executed on suspend / resume in Ubuntu 15.10 and newer.
[18:59] <sky> nacc: so I should try to touch the output file or something? so this *should* be working?
[18:59] <arooni> i've got ubuntu 14.04 for now
[18:59] <arooni> btw Jordan_U ; when should i upgrade to latest 16.04 ubuntu?  i heard i should wait for a point release
[18:59] <nacc> sky: it should be, i think ... i'm not using postfix on this machine right now
[19:00] <sky> ill try to touch the file, who should own it?
[19:00] <sky> syslog:adm?
[19:01] <sky> 'Rsyslog.conf is backward-compatible with sysklogd's sys‐ log.conf file
[19:01] <sky> '
[19:01] <sky> oops
[19:01] <sky> sysklogd
[19:01] <Jordan_U> !ltsupgrade | arooni
[19:01] <nacc> sky: yeah, that's who owns it on my system, at least
[19:01] <sky> so - disables syncing
[19:02] <arooni> is there a way to run a program after my laptop has resumed && has a valid network connection?
[19:02] <arooni> or do i to run some kind of loop in my shell script waiting for a network connection
[19:02] <arooni> awesome thanks for that info Jordan_U
[19:02] <sky> nacc: that did the truck
[19:03] <sky> do I find my first bug?
[19:03] <nacc> sky: possibly? :)
[19:03] <sky> record pace. two bugs! manpage and whatever this is
[19:03] <nacc> sky: what bug did you find in manpages?
[19:03] <nacc> sky: sysklogd was the actual name before, read the bottom of the manpage
[19:04] <sky> oh
[19:04] <sky> heh
[19:04] <nacc> s/the/an/
[19:04] <sky> wonder what other log files I need to touch
[19:14] <k12> How do I enable wifi? I tried to install netctl but I don't see it in the repos.
[19:15] <nacc> k12: network-manager?
[19:16] <CrackedCracker> hello.
[19:16] <CrackedCracker> i'm trying to install dbus-python with pip on anaconda python 3, but so far no success.
[19:16] <CrackedCracker> it depends on dbus and this is where i keep getting errors "No package 'dbus-glib-1' found" even though apt shows dbus as installed.
[19:16] <CrackedCracker> would appreciate any help
[19:16] <k12> nacc: motherbear4-3@ubuntu-laptop:~$ sudo systemctl enable network-manager@wlp13s0.service -----> Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory
[19:18] <nacc> CrackedCracker: why not just use `apt-get install python3-dbus` ?
[19:18] <ioria> k12 why do you need to enable it ? it should already be enabled
[19:19] <CrackedCracker> nacc: it's already installed =(
[19:19] <k12> ioria: I did this via ubuntu server. That way I could have a base installation so I can choose what flavor of ubuntu I wanted to install ass desktop without having to download ten thousand iso images.
[19:19] <k12> *as
[19:19] <cerion> hi. apparently i have "store forever", a password for an encrypted external hdd. I wnat to delete the password stored. However I foundn nothing in seahorse and gnome keyring or login. (like said herehttps://askubuntu.com/questions/615408/how-to-disable-remember-forever-option-in-mounting-encrypted-disks)
[19:19] <k12> whoops... lol
[19:20] <nacc> CrackedCracker: then why are you trying to use pip to install it?
[19:20] <ioria> k12  did you install a DE ?
[19:20] <k12> Yeah. ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[19:21] <ioria> k12  sudo systemctl status network-manager
[19:21] <k12> Oh wait... I see an option for wifi after I ran "ip link set wlp13s0 up"
[19:21] <k12> Lemme reboot to see if it's still there...
[19:21] <k12> brb
[19:21] <Grorco> hey does anyone know much about polkit? I'm getting an error on start up
[19:21] <CrackedCracker> nass: not exactly me, i'm trying to install coursera-dl which depends on dbus-python and so on, i decided to install it manually, but failed
[19:25] <ioria> k12 if you installed the server edition a /etc/network/interfaces usually will be set , empty it if you want to use NM
[19:25] <k12> ok nvm. Apparently with ubuntu, the ip command is enough.
[19:25] <k12> On arch, which is my home distro, I have to do all this manually. XD
[19:25] <ioria> k12 hehe
[19:34] <yao_ziyuan> i just installed ubuntu 16.04 on a brand new dell xps 8900.
[19:35] <yao_ziyuan> i know the pcie_aspi=off trick.
[19:35] <yao_ziyuan> the problem is, the video driver isn't working properly. the video card is an nvidia.
[19:35] <yao_ziyuan> very new nvidia.
[19:36] <yao_ziyuan> i can press ctrl+alt+f1 to go to a text console and execute linux commands.
[19:36] <yao_ziyuan> but i can't use the graphical UI due to the video driver problem.
[19:36] <bekks> WHih problems, exactly?
[19:37] <yao_ziyuan> now i want to go into a "safe mode" that uses a standard video driver. how do i do this?
[19:38] <yao_ziyuan> suppose your ubuntu 16.04's current video driver is not working and all you see in the graphical UI is your mouse,
[19:38] <bekks> yao_ziyuan: How did you install that driver?
[19:38] <yao_ziyuan> how do you temporarily enforce a "standard video driver" so that you can reinstall your video driver?
[19:39] <yao_ziyuan> bekks: during ubuntu installation, it asked me to enter a password to temporarily disable "Secure Boot".
[19:39] <yao_ziyuan> i entered a password but later i didn't see a prompt asking me to re-enter that password.
[19:40] <yao_ziyuan> so i guess the video driver isn't installed properly.
[19:40] <yao_ziyuan> or maybe ubuntu doesn't support my cutting-edge nvidia card anyway.
[19:40] <yao_ziyuan> so now i want to switch to a "standard video driver" first.
[19:40] <yao_ziyuan> how do i do this in a text console?
[19:41] <yao_ziyuan> i want to have a standard video driver so that i can at least start using the graphical UI.
[19:42] <yao_ziyuan> ok i found some google results and will go with them first
[19:43] <bear_> yao_ziyuan,
[19:43] <bear_> vesa
[19:43] <yao_ziyuan> what's ubuntu's packages for nvidia drivers?
[19:43] <bear_> also define "cutting edge"
[19:43] <ioria> yao_ziyuan, can you paste  sudo lshw -c Video  ?
[19:43] <bear_> yao_ziyuan, there' nouveau
[19:46] <akik> amfrank: i was able to solve the indicator problem in unity. this process was not running: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/unity/unity-panel-service
[19:47] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: product: GM206 [GeForce GTX 960]
[19:47] <bear_> yao_ziyuan, that's not cutting edge.
[19:47] <ioria> yao_ziyuan, we need the paste paste.ubuntu.com
[19:47] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: configuration: driver=nouveau latency-0
[19:47] <ioria> ok
[19:47] <bear_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[19:47] <bear_> erry christmas.
[19:47] <bear_> merry
[19:47] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: i'm manually typing essential results on my laptop
[19:48] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: currently i can only use the text console of ubuntu on my new desktop
[19:48] <kallix_> hello?
[19:48] <ioria> yao_ziyuan,   do you get the login screen ?
[19:48] <yao_ziyuan> so this nouveau driver isn't installed properly or isn't given permission to get around Secure Boot
[19:49] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: yes,
[19:49] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: i can login; but after login, the desktop is all blank (except the wallpaper and the mouse pointer)
[19:49] <kallix_> I am new on linux and have a lot of problems.
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> kallix_  let's hear it, one at a time and in one line
[19:49] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: if i press ctrl+alt+del, i will see ubuntu's Task Manager window flashing, which indicates it must be the video driver's problem
[19:50] <ioria> yao_ziyuan,   sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop , and select it in the login screen , at least you'll have a DE
[19:50] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: i want to remove this broken nouveau driver and install a standard driver first. i will follow some google results.
[19:51] <kallix_> So how to connect to facebook and skype? And how to instal steam?
[19:51] <bekks> kallix_: For Facebook, open your browser, and log in to www.facebook.com
[19:51] <ioria> yao_ziyuan,   i don't think it is broken , maybe you need to blacklist it
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> !steam
[19:52] <bekks> !skype | MonkeyDust
[19:52] <bekks> :D
[19:52] <bekks> Sorry.
[19:52] <bekks> !skype > kallix_
[19:52] <kallix_> I am runin 16.04 LTS. I know how to log in via browser but i am looking for program like IM on windows.
[19:52] <yao_ziyuan> what's the packages responsible for nouveau driver?
[19:53] <testuser222> hi what's upp
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> kallix_  i guess pidgin can do that
[19:53] <testuser222> this is me using qtirc in order to record a tutorial. Say hello!
[19:54] <ayyyy> ?
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> kallix_  nvm, just read pidgin no longer supports FB
[19:54] <ayyyy> im having issues with a socket connection
[19:55] <ayyyy> i have a python script made with socket that listens and another that sends a message to that script
[19:55] <kallix_> So FB nevermind =D
[19:56] <ayyyy> i can run the script locally (from withn the server) but i cannot do it remotely
[19:56] <ayyyy> i know the port im using is open
[19:56] <ayyyy> i know the port im using is open, and netstat -lntp | grep  83 shows the process is listenig
[19:57] <kallix_> People why you moved to linux?
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> kallix_  why you stayed with windows?
[19:57] <testuser222> dont want to use a mac
[19:57] <ayyyy> is there something i must do differently to open a port sor a socket connection or someting?
[19:57] <ayyyy> ??
[19:57] <yao_ziyuan> ok, i did: sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:58] <yao_ziyuan> this time it won't show me a blank desktop, but it will quickly return to the login window.
[19:58] <kallix_> MonkeyDust: Better Office and of course a lot of AAA games.
[19:58] <yao_ziyuan> i mean the lightdm display manager.
[19:58] <yao_ziyuan> so the 'nvidia-current' driver doesn't work either.
[19:59] <k1l> kallix_: for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic . we try to solve the technical issues in here.
[19:59] <ayyyy> no suggestions
[19:59] <ayyyy> ?
[19:59] <yao_ziyuan> what's ubuntu's package for a standard, generic video driver?
[20:00] <kallix_> k1l: I am sorry. What is vsound packet?
[20:00] <ayyyy> :(
[20:00] <OerHeks> yao_ziyuan, tyope driver in dash the drivertool should show up and you can enable nouveau again
[20:00] <k1l> !info vsound
[20:01] <OerHeks> yao_ziyuan, else "sudo ubuntu-drivers list" to see drivers, and sudo ubuntu-drivers install nouveau
[20:02] <\9> ayyyy: you're better off asking that in #python, I'd think. and post the code
[20:03] <ayyyy> i dont think its a python related issue
[20:03] <ayyyy> the script runs fine
[20:05] <yao_ziyuan> OerHeks: my graphical UI is completely unusable. i can only see the wallpaper and my mouse.
[20:05] <AMR_KELEG> Hi all, I am currently using Ubuntu 14.04 as dual boot with windows 8.1 and would like to update to Ubuntu 16.04, so what do you recommend to minimize the problems?
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> AMR_KELEG  backup and fresh install ubuntu
[20:05] <k1l> !ltsupgrade | AMR_KELEG
[20:06] <k1l> you can use the developer upgrade path now if you really want. but the LTS upgrade will be opened in july
[20:06] <yao_ziyuan> OerHeks: 'sudo ubuntu-drivers list' shows me bcmul-kernel-source, nvidia-361, intel-microcode.
[20:06] <yao_ziyuan> OerHeks: should i remove nvidia-361 first?
[20:07] <AMR_KELEG> k1l: I have read that a fresh install is better than an upgrade, Do you think that's right?
[20:07] <OerHeks> yao_ziyuan, oh, i thought you reinstalled xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, now it does not show up, right?
[20:08] <OerHeks> reinstall, reboot, and do sudo ubuntu-drivers list again
[20:09] <k1l> AMR_KELEG: no. upgrades are automated tested since years and do work. but with PPAs and other 3rd party code that cant be tested of course. and some setups can have issues, like AMD video cards since there is no fglrx anymore.
[20:09] <yao_ziyuan> OerHeks: i didn't. but no matter what, i just ran 'sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall'.
[20:10] <haasn> I want to install ubuntu server onto a zfs (for /), what's the easiest way of accomplishing this? I can get a shell from the install disc, but it's pretty limited and I don't think I can install the packages necessary for configuring zfs in that environment
[20:11] <haasn> (I can use a small usb drive for /boot as needed)
[20:12] <OerHeks> haasn, you will need a real live iso for that, AFAIK
[20:12] <haasn> Alternatively I could do the installation from another system bootstrap the ubuntu base via chroot, not sure what would be harder
[20:12] <AMR_KELEG> MonkeyDust k1l : Thanks guys
[20:14] <yao_ziyuan> now it again entered my initial situation: just a wallpaper and a mouse pointer.
[20:14] <nacc> haasn: i believe the zfsonlinux folks have documented how to do it, but note not supported
[20:14] <yao_ziyuan> o, by right-clicking, it shows up the popup menu too!
[20:14] <yao_ziyuan> i think this is a progress.
[20:14] <yao_ziyuan> now i can open a terminal window from the popup menu.
[20:15] <OerHeks> alt-f2 gnome-terminal, or ctrl alt t
[20:15] <yao_ziyuan> instead of pressing ctrl+alt+f1 to go to a text window.
[20:15] <yao_ziyuan> but still, the unity interface doesn't show up.
[20:15] <yao_ziyuan> i'm like without any window manager and unity UI elements
[20:16] <OerHeks> if the unity interface is down, it is a ccsm plugin issue..
[20:16] <OerHeks> disabled, that is
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> yao_ziyuan  logout and switch to a different UI ... i guess flashback is available too
[20:17] <yao_ziyuan> i just ran: unity
[20:17] <yao_ziyuan> it says:
[20:17] <yao_ziyuan> unity-panel-service stop/waiting
[20:17] <yao_ziyuan> unity 7 stop/waiting
[20:17] <yao_ziyuan> unity 7 start/running, process 2141
[20:17] <yao_ziyuan> unity-panel-service start/running, process 2140
[20:17] <yao_ziyuan> but i still don't see any unity elements
[20:18] <yao_ziyuan> still without any window manager.
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> yao_ziyuan  can you logout and switch your DE? then work from there
[20:18] <yao_ziyuan> ok, maybe i should install another desktop environment for now.
[20:18] <yao_ziyuan> but i'm afraid another desktop environment will corrupt my clean ubuntu installation.
[20:19] <OerHeks> yao_ziyuan, you corrupted it yourself, no?
[20:19] <yao_ziyuan> OerHeks: blame this xps 8900 with all the new stuff that isn't friendly to ubuntu.
[20:20]  * yao_ziyuan is considering running ubuntu installation again
[20:21] <yao_ziyuan> by running 'unity', i can temporarily see unity's UI, but it immediately disappears after that.
[20:21] <yao_ziyuan> i guess it's still a video driver problem.
[20:21] <yao_ziyuan> what's the command line to get me a generic video driver?
[20:23] <penrod> greetings, has anyone had any success installing the letsencrypt certificates ?
[20:23] <yao_ziyuan> specifically, what's the package to install that graphical tool that let's me install additional drivers?
[20:23] <Foloex> hello world
[20:24] <Foloex> is there a greeter out there that acts as a VNC client ?
[20:25] <yao_ziyuan> got it: software-properties-gtk.
[20:25] <yao_ziyuan> now i'm reverting all proprietary drivers to default ones.
[20:28] <Foloex> I'm trying to a system that only provides a VNC client
[20:28] <Foloex> *build
[20:28] <yao_ziyuan> now it seems both nvidia's and ubuntu's open source nvidia driver fail to work for me
[20:30] <yao_ziyuan> i think i should test some live cds and install one that works.
[20:31] <valvin> hi there, i am using a dell e7440 with intel wifi 8260 on which i am having troubble. wifi is working but i have a lot of "invalid misc". do you know if there is a known problem on this hardware ? thanks :)
[20:33] <fedor> hi, how to check package dependencies before install via apt-get install -y somepack
[20:34] <compdoc> bad idea to use -y
[20:34] <fedor> ok
[20:34] <tgm4883> ...
[20:34] <fedor> but how to check
[20:34] <tgm4883> fedor: don't use -y
[20:34] <fedor> without install
[20:35] <fedor> yes it show all dependencies before install if I do not use -y
[20:35] <fedor> but is there a way like
[20:35] <fedor> apt-cache search pack
[20:35] <fedor> apt-cache dependencies package
[20:35] <tgm4883> 'apt-cache show package'
[20:35] <fedor> ok
[20:37] <fedor> tgm4883: thanks, that is it.
[20:37] <LinuxGuy2020> Hello I am really interested in these "new" snap packages, and am wondering if there is a straight forward way to make my own snaps from a deb that is already installed or available in the repositories. Is there a guide specific to this or a converter available yet? I've already looked at the snapcraft documentation and its cryptic at best.
[20:38] <fedor> and if I have only the source to compile
[20:38] <fedor> without documentation
[20:39] <tgm4883> fedor: get the documentation?
[20:39] <fedor> is there a way to check before or just trying when install will show if is needed dependencies
[20:39] <fedor> no without doc
[20:40] <tgm4883> fedor: no, unless someone has already documented somewhere the dependencies, then compiling software with no documentation is going to be trial and error
[20:41] <tgm4883> I mean, you could go through the source code and figure out all the dependencies that way too
[20:49] <peyam> hi. Does anybody know How i can make such "images" n my terminal? http://www.everbot.com/images/ArchLinuxTerminal02.png
[20:49] <peyam> the arch sign
[20:51] <yao_ziyuan> here's my newest situation:
[20:51] <yao_ziyuan> i booted my brand new xps 8900 with a ubuntu 16.04 live cd, and when it started the graphical ui, it keeps flashing a dialog box saying there is an 'internal error', 'do you want to send report to canonical?'
[20:51] <yao_ziyuan> so it's obviously related to the video driver the live cd was using.
[20:52] <yao_ziyuan> then i booted with a ubuntu 15.10 live cd. this time everything is ok!
[20:52] <peyam> yao_ziyuan, tluciffid yrev si siht
[20:52] <yao_ziyuan> so it seems ubuntu 15.10 supports my nvidia video card out of the box.
[20:52] <peyam> that internet error happens all the time. just ignore it if doesnt do anything else
[20:53] <peyam> cool
[20:53] <tgm4883> peyam: https://itsfoss.com/display-linux-logo-in-ascii/
[20:54] <k1l> !info screenfetch | peyam
[20:54] <yao_ziyuan> but i hate ubuntu 15.10 as it's outdated
[20:54] <peyam> thanks
[20:55] <yao_ziyuan> dilemma. you have to choose the latest version that works for you.
[20:55] <yao_ziyuan> anyone succeeded in installing ubuntu 16.04 on dell xps 8900?
[20:55] <Zta> So... is it worth upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04?  I mean including all the hazzle of backing up data, restoring data, restoring configuration, reinstalling apps and all...
[20:56] <Tegu> you should back up data anyway :) (but yea I'm on the same situation)
[20:56] <peyam> k1l, do you know how screenfetch can be run every time I open a terminal?
[20:56] <peyam> do I have to modify .bashrc?
[20:58] <peyam> nm. just added screenfetch at the very end of .bashrc
[20:59] <XMLnewbi> ok, why the hell does ubuntu.com not have an SSL?
[21:00] <XMLnewbi> you are sersouly telling everyone to download binarys from a site with no ssl and trust your entire life works on it?
[21:00] <XMLnewbi> I dont even see checksums on the site
[21:00] <Fiki> does anybody know how to solve this problem with pip on Ubuntu 16.04: http://pastebin.com/v9VtcKFn
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> !checksum | XMLnewbi
[21:02] <XMLnewbi> https://letsencrypt.org/  wow, and most beginers have no idea how to do. that is like a 5 page doc written for devs
[21:03] <erkules> ahoi is there a commandline tool to use seccomp? like capsh for capabilities?
[21:03] <XMLnewbi> so easy for me to make a ubuntu.com clone and push people there and get them to download and run malware
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> XMLnewbi  this is the support channel, do you have an ubuntu related question
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> XMLnewbi  take discussion and opinions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:03] <dax> i swear there was a bug on Launchpad about this
[21:04] <XMLnewbi> lol, im going to just tell people to use fedora or mint
[21:04] <dax> lol mint
[21:04] <Pici> er.. okay.
[21:05] <bpmv> Есть кто говорит по русски?
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[21:15] <xubuntu95w> Hi guys, I have a problem with Xubuntu and Ubuntu Mate installation from a bootable USB Drive and a DVD. No matter which one I choose it doesn't go through the "Boot from CD/DVD" or just hangs with the underscore. Downloaded twice already, created bootable USB with both Rufus and Unetbootin, the DVD and USB works on a diferrent, newer PC, any thoughts?
[21:16] <Foloex> I'm trying to specify a lightdm configuration but I feels like lightdm ignores my /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf file, any idea how fix that ?
[21:17] <bprompt> xubuntu95w:   anything on the "underscore" prompt?   like login text maybe?
[21:18] <xubuntu95w> bprompt, nothing at all
[21:19] <TreeTree> Hey I have a question. I submitted a bug a month ago and it's been pretty much abandoned. Well not officially but there's nothing going on there. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1591439
[21:19] <TreeTree> How long do I have to wait until something will be done?
[21:19] <bprompt> xubuntu95w:   alrite.. try typing at the "underscore", -> live <--- just that, see if it goes in
[21:20] <xubuntu95w> bprompt: Can't type, it's just this blank loading underscore
[21:21] <bprompt> xubuntu95w:  what about pressing Esc? anything?
[21:22] <xubuntu95w> bprompt: no response whatsoever, whenever i try to boot, the disk spins for 15 sec and stops without anything happening
[21:23] <bprompt> xubuntu95w:   the disk? thought you were doing a liveusb bootup?
[21:23] <xubuntu95w> bprompt: Tried both, though I can actually know something's happening when it physically moves rather than a USB
[21:25] <bprompt> xubuntu95w:    so, you're saying, the usb does boot with xubuntu/ubuntu, and it installs to the hdd, but the hdd installation is coming to an "underscore"?
[21:26] <xubuntu95w> bprompt: No, not at all, it doesn't boot, it doesn't even load anything, never seen a Ubuntu logo on this computer
[21:27] <bprompt> xubuntu95w:    so the liveusb session works though?
[21:28] <xubuntu95w> bprompt: Nothing works, nothing boots
[21:29] <xubuntu95w> I could install Windows - not a problem there, just Ubuntu doesnt seem like loading any files at all
[21:30] <bprompt> xubuntu95w:    I'd think the writing of the iso. didn't go well, and yes, I read you used Rufus and unetbooting.... hmmm dunno, I  use "dd" to just simply raw-write it
[21:30] <bprompt> xubuntu95w:   you're in windows, right?
[21:31] <bprompt> xubuntu95w:   I mean, in windows trying to burn the (x)ubuntu iso
[21:31] <xubuntu95w> bprompt: Yup, trying to install some lightweight Ubuntu onto an older machine
[21:32] <bprompt> xubuntu95w:    try doing a raw-write of the iso to a usb stick with win32 disk imager -> https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ <--- it's just a small standalone .exe, and all it does, is raw writes whatever file you give it, to whatever device
[21:33] <bprompt> xubuntu95w:  I've heard of many folks using Rufus and happy with it, but can't vouch for it myself, on what it may be doing or adding besides the burning
[21:34] <xubuntu95w> bprompt: Allright, gonna try that
[21:35] <tgm4883> bprompt: I think it's safe enough to recommend Rufus
[21:36] <bprompt> tgm4883:   well, I've heard good of it, I think I used it once, I recall added a label to the iso, did more than just burning IIRC
[21:36] <tgm4883> bprompt: it's the official recommended way to burn to USB via windows
[21:36] <tgm4883> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[21:37] <bprompt> tgm4883:     alrite.... well... .then it's good, I just can't quite vouch for  it enough to say, it isn't it at the issue, may just be a subtle matter
[21:44] <Foloex> is there something to do to enable remote-login beside setting "greeter-show-remote-login" to "true" ?
[21:44] <Foloex> (in lightdm)
[22:05] <didrik> HI
[22:05] <xubuntu56w> bprompt: Nothing changed
[22:07] <bprompt> hmmm
[22:08] <bprompt> xubuntu56w:     how fast is the cpu on that "older" machine?   is it a single-core?
[22:08] <bprompt> xubuntu56w:    smells like it's a BIOS issue
[22:08] <bprompt> xubuntu56w:     wondering if it supports usb bootup
[22:09] <xubuntu56w> bprompt: It's an Intel Pentium 4 with HT
[22:11] <OerHeks> p4 .. use the 32 bit mini iso
[22:11] <bprompt> xubuntu56w:   pentium?    maan.. so.. .we're looking at  1.1ghz I assume?   hmmm so.. I suspect the bios may not do usb booting, thus, check its bios/setup/cmos to see what options it has under "boot sequence" for booting devices, it may do usb, but some may require the usb stick to be plugged in before booting, and others, you need to plug in the usb stick, then go to setup to select it as device to boot from
[22:12] <xubuntu56w> bprompt: It's a 3.0 ghz
[22:12] <bprompt> xubuntu56w:   but yes, as OerHeks said, 16.04 ubuntu or xubuntu or even lubuntu, would be a bit more overhead that it may prefer
[22:13] <OerHeks> lubuntu/openbox i guess
[22:13] <bprompt> xubuntu56w:   and also, it'd be a single-core, 32bit cpu, so, you'll need the 32bit iso, assuming you're not burning the 64bit iso
[22:15] <bprompt> xubuntu56w:    but hmmm, I'd give a shot to 14.04, but chances are, 12.04 would run better, so... depends on what you need the machine for, just for video playback or office docs or reading books
[22:24] <tgm4883> FWIW, it could be 64-bit capable
[22:25] <vivid> so i have installed a service/daemon and i have set it to enabled using 'systemctl enable service' but still, when i reboot i must always manually start the service.  is there some step to automatically starting service on boot that i am missing?
[22:26] <tgm4883> vivid: have you checked the applications logs to confirm it's not actually starting at boot?
[22:26] <xubuntu56w_> bprompt: Shit, this internet... but, it seems to have started working, a tiny bit, thanks for your help!
[22:26] <vivid> no i just issue 'systemctl status service' to see that its enabled but 'Active: inactive (dead)'
[22:27] <vivid> systemctl start service starts it up, everything functions, no errors.  im a bit confused
[22:27] <tgm4883> vivid: what application? I'd still check it's logs to see if it's trying to start at boot and failing
[22:27] <bprompt> np
[22:28] <vivid> let me see if i can find something under /var/logs
[22:29] <vivid> the daemon is ratbagd, dbus interface for libratbag3
[22:39] <dax> "inactive (dead)" sounds like it tried to start and then died
[22:41] <OerHeks> fresh kernel update http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[22:43] <Your_Dog> that reminds me.. im still using the 3.2 kernel.. aff
[23:06] <count> heyho
[23:06] <count> are there any known issue with Xenial server, where the keyboard input stops working (while console switching still works) and the network stacks also seems to stop working in userspace?
[23:06] <count> having the issue reliably with kernels 4.4.0-28 and earlier from the release, also tried 3.19.0-61 with the same result
[23:06] <count> somehow feels like a weird userspace issue affecting daemons, e.g. ssh and getty are stopping working. nothing in the logs, nothing on the console.
[23:07] <ikonia> count: why are you saying userspace for networking
[23:08] <count> ikonia: because the stack up into the ssh-daemon seems to work, just the connection freezes after established
[23:08] <ikonia> count: ssh-daemon is not userspace,
[23:08] <count> ikonia: riiight
[23:10] <count> ikonia: sorry, but .. it most definitly is.
[23:10] <ikonia> no, it just has privilege seperation for user sessions
[23:10] <count> ikonia: it does not run in kernel memory ..
[23:11] <count> ikonia: uid 0 != ring 0 etc
[23:11] <ikonia> ahhh, apologies, missunderstood what you where saying
[23:11] <count> ikonia: phew. was slightly worried here for a moment :D
[23:11] <ikonia> count: explain the problem
[23:13] <count> ikonia: everything works as expected until it doesn't; ssh session stops accepting keypresses, new session gets established but doesn't finish key exchange, getty stops accepting input, numlock and console switching still works, nothing in console or other logs
[23:13] <count> ikonia: I'm pretty baffled and have seen a lot of issues before, but not that one
[23:14] <ikonia> count: that seems mental that the daemon still takes the connection but the keyexchange happens
[23:14] <ikonia> count: can you stract the client and server to see what state it's in and what it thinks it's doing
[23:15] <count> ikonia: like I said, the key exchange DOESN'T continue
[23:15] <count> ikonia: box is unresponsible from the outside and the console, no strace possible - that would be too easy ;)
[23:15] <count> ikonia: kflushd and such still seem to be working, there's disk activity
[23:16] <ikonia> count: thats most odd,
[23:16] <ikonia> count: what happens to existing sessions that are already open
[23:17] <dax> "ssh session stops accepting keypresses"
[23:18] <ikonia> ahh the existing one
[23:19] <ikonia> does the box still exist on the network at all ?
[23:20] <DaniKitten> why I can't play MIDI files?
[23:20] <count> dax: existing one
[23:21] <count> ikonia: yes, responds to ping and everything
[23:21] <count> ikonia: just any tcp stuff (didn't check udp) stops working
[23:21] <count> ikonia: same as anything that travels through the hid stack, I guess
[23:22] <ikonia> count: but yet the numlock key still works which also goes through the hid stack
[23:22] <count> ikonia: not sure. SysRq also works.
[23:22] <ikonia> count: certainly an interesting problem
[23:22] <count> ikonia: I remember that SysRq, console switching and numlock were special in some way
[23:23] <alumnol> no tengo sonido en huayra
[23:23] <count> ikonia: getty not taking characters despite numlock working was the first complete wtf for me
[23:23] <ikonia> count: did you say you had access to the console display ?
[23:23] <count> ikonia: yes, I could switch it. nothing in the logs.
[23:24] <count> ikonia: I event went so far to disable blanking and see whether anything was written there. nothing.
[23:24] <ikonia> count: I wonder, bounce the box, tail the syslog wait for the problem to happen, unplug/re-plug the keyboard, see if you get a a udev and hid event
[23:24] <count> ikonia: okay, I'll try that
[23:24] <count> ikonia: I'll also try raising the console log level
[23:24] <ikonia> count: just interesting to see what happens
[23:29] <count> might take a few hours for it to happen. thanks so far :)
[23:30]  * count shall be back with further information
[23:40] <TGVoid> My PC doesn't display anything after I click "Try Ubuntu"
[23:40] <TGVoid> I am using an AMD APU
[23:41] <DaniKitten> how many RAM do you have?
[23:41] <TGVoid> 8 gigs
[23:42] <DaniKitten> do you are running from a disc or a USB stick?
[23:42] <TGVoid> USB. It worked about a month ago on my laptop
[23:43] <DaniKitten> is USB 3.0 or 2.0?
[23:43] <TGVoid> I used 2.0
[23:44] <DaniKitten> how many time are you waiting?
[23:44] <TGVoid> A few minutes
[23:44] <TGVoid> Windows booted just fine
[23:44] <DaniKitten> how many
[23:44] <TGVoid> 3ish minutes
[23:45] <DaniKitten> ~ 3 minutes?
[23:45] <TGVoid> Around that much
[23:46] <DaniKitten> yo, you sould wait a bit more, my laptop lated 4 minutes for doing that from a DVD
[23:46] <DaniKitten> for installing LTS 14.04
[23:47] <TGVoid> Now it stops displaying right from bootup. My monitor just goes to sleep
[23:47] <DaniKitten> usb 2.0 is a bit slow, you should try from SD card
[23:47] <dax> what.
[23:47] <TGVoid> I switched to 3.0
[23:47] <dax> SD cards are slower than USB 2.0, DaniKitten.
[23:48] <DaniKitten> I used SD HC card and was incredibly fast
[23:48] <DaniKitten> lated 1 minute
[23:48] <dax> and regardless, the solution to "my monitor goes to sleep on boot" is not "boot from a faster medium"
[23:48] <DaniKitten> delete the USB and reinstall
[23:48]  * dax sighs
[23:49] <dax> TGVoid: which AMD APU, and which version of Ubuntu?
[23:49] <DaniKitten> maybe the USB got corrupted
[23:49] <TGVoid> AMD A10-5800K on LTS 16.04
[23:49] <TGVoid> The USB worked fine a month ago
[23:49] <TGVoid> I didn't use it since
[23:50] <DaniKitten> well, reinstall the ISO again
[23:50] <DaniKitten> or burn it to a DVD
[23:50] <DaniKitten> a true DVD
[23:50] <dax> or don't and use the 'nomodeset' kernel parameter
[23:51] <TGVoid> How do I do that?
[23:51] <DaniKitten> I say support for physical problems, while dax say software or user problems
[23:51] <dax> It's been a while so I'm not 100% on the steps, but I think when the USB starts to boot, hit a keyboard key, then I think there's an Other Options button (F6?) and it's on that menu
[23:52] <hammer25> hey guys, what is the menu bar at the top of the unity desktop called?
[23:52] <dax> DaniKitten: I think this may be a case where you found a hammer and have decided that everything is a nail.
[23:52] <DaniKitten> something like Windows task bar but without the tasks
[23:52] <DaniKitten> it says quick info about the PC
[23:52] <DaniKitten> such battery, date and time
[23:53] <dax> hammer25: unity panel or just panel
[23:53] <dax> the icons on the right of the panel are called indicators
[23:53] <hammer25> dax: thank you. do you have any idea how modifiable it is? I'm trying to make something that displays weather in the panel using python
[23:54] <CodeMouse92> hammer25: 'my-weather-indicator' does exactly that
[23:54] <TGVoid> I selected "nomodeset" do I just click "Try Ubuntu" again?
[23:54] <dax> TGVoid: yes
[23:54] <dax> hammer25: what CodeMouse92 said. if you're looking to make your own, https://askubuntu.com/questions/42211/how-to-create-unity-indicators would be one start
[23:54] <CodeMouse92> hammer25: Link to '
[23:55] <TGVoid> "*ERROR* No UMS support in Radeon"
[23:55] <CodeMouse92> *Link to 'my-weather-indicator': https://launchpad.net/my-weather-indicator
[23:55] <dax> although, ugh, most of those links are out of date, thanks Canonical
[23:55] <CodeMouse92> hammer25: Worst case, you can just take apart my-weather-indicator and learn how they do it :P
[23:55] <dax> I guess. There used to be pages and stuff like the indicator API, I can't find them now >.>
[23:55] <dax> s/and/on/
[23:55] <TGVoid> It worked!
[23:56] <hammer25> thanks guys
[23:56] <TGVoid> How do I set the resolution to 1600x900? I don't have the option.
[23:56] <CodeMouse92> dax: One could always run the link through the good 'ol Wayback Machine...
[23:58] <TGVoid> Nevermind. Last thing, I have a corrupted drive image and I need a safe way to extract the files out of it
[23:59] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: I use testdisk, personally.