[01:27] what's up? === asb is now known as asomething [04:31] hi [06:35] morning [06:37] hey andyrock [06:37] good morning desktopers [06:37] andyrock, how are you? [06:37] * andyrock wants to sleep more [06:37] do it! [06:37] take example on Trevinho ;-) [06:38] but it's to warm [06:38] ahaha [06:38] lol [06:38] seb128: what about you? [06:38] I'm good thanks [06:38] I could have slept a bit more as well [06:38] not too warm here, 19°C during the day [07:04] Morning [07:04] seb128: lol [07:30] hey Trevinho! how are you? [07:45] pitti, hey [07:45] bonjour seb128 ! [07:45] pitti, those updated langpacks are a bit weird [07:45] they won the touch stack for some reason [07:45] is that wanted? [07:46] like unity8 messaging-app etc at in the base one [07:46] I guess it's just going back at include things in universe that have langpack support enabled? [07:46] seb128: yes, same like evolution [07:46] I noticed some new templates now, but that seemed mostly by intent? [07:46] k, I was just surprised to see those in base [07:47] and not in touch [07:47] err, they aren't in touch? [07:47] well I mean in base as well [07:47] ah, ok [07:47] I was expecting them to be only in touch [07:47] but I guess for convergence&co it makes sense to have them on the desktop set [07:47] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/268303717/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.language-pack-touch-de_1%3A16.04+20160627.1_BUILDING.txt.gz looked fine [07:48] right, sorry that's not what I meant [07:48] seb128: the desktop and touch langpacks have always had overlap [07:48] so that's nothing new [07:48] right [07:48] seb128: so, we might want to clean this up at the next xenial round, but I don't think it'll actually hurt [07:48] I was just surprised to see a non trivial stack of new translations [07:48] but it makes sense after thinking a bit [07:49] right [07:52] morning all [07:54] seb128, looking at my calendar today, can you handle the weekly meeting? I've got a 1st round interview which will overlap [07:54] hey willcooke [07:54] sure [07:54] thanks [07:56] yw! [08:03] moinonon [08:07] morning Laney [08:07] what ho [08:08] hey Laney! [08:09] hey Laney, had a good relaxing w.e? [08:09] hey Laney, willcooke, pitti! [08:09] c'est un didrocks! [08:14] seb128: quite good, just had my daily coffee granita... :-P. You? [08:16] Trevinho, I'm good thanks, also just had some coffee :-) [08:17] hi pitti didrocks seb128 and Trevinhooooo [08:18] it was good - we made daiquiris and swam in the sea and went for walks and had chips [08:20] nice [08:20] i left my laptop charger there though ._. [08:20] :-( [08:20] do you have any spare/compatible one? [08:20] nein [08:20] they are posting it [08:20] sucks [08:20] i'll get it tomorrow [08:21] k, not too bad [08:21] desktop it is meanwhile then? [08:21] no working in the sun today [08:21] yeah [08:21] not much sun to work in anyway [08:21] weird summer :-/ [08:21] http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/06/unwanted-windows-10-upgrade-costs-microsoft-10000/ [08:21] lol [08:21] hope more of those are coming! [08:48] oh Laneeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy... Hey! === cpaelzer is now known as cpaelzer_away [09:29] Hello willcooke, didrocks, seb128, Trevinho and all :) ! [09:29] It's qo quiet this morning ^^. [09:29] hi alexarnaud === hikiko is now known as hikiko|bbl [10:23] happyaron, could you update your trello board when you get a moment please === dpm_ is now known as dpm [10:33] willcooke: doing [10:38] willcooke: mind to run the trello script against network-manager? [10:38] happyaron, 0 bugs found [10:38] at least 1 new [10:39] e.g. bug #1595707 [10:39] bug 1595707 in network-manager (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU]crash in nmc_find_connection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1595707 [10:40] ahh, [10:40] I think the script is only looking at bugs on the ubuntu packages [10:40] I can probably fix that [10:40] otp atm, will look later [10:41] ty, there are more bugs in n-m in similar situation, :) [11:36] happy $(day)! [11:37] zsh: command not found: day [11:37] HI DESRT [11:37] :) good morning [11:38] * Laney looks it up... [11:38] happy $(date +%A) to you [11:38] what is the good word? [11:39] someone once said something about "bird" being the word [11:40] happyaron, found the problem, it was "fix committed" [11:40] desrt: everybody has heard about the bird [11:43] it's the word [11:43] but is it the *good* word? [11:43] discuss [11:43] 2000 words on my desk by tomorrow [11:43] I typoed "desk" as "desktop" then, worrying === cpaelzer_away is now known as cpaelzer [11:49] * davmor2 fills a page with Papa-ooma-mow-mow and signs it off with Surfin Bird EP edition and hands it to Laney === cpaelzer is now known as cpaelzer_away [12:03] davmor2: I put that on youtube and it's taking me on an awesome journey [12:03] Tequila atm === hikiko|bbl is now known as hikiko [12:06] hmm. Random lock up [12:18] Laney: oh that almost certainly means you'll end up at zombie or tubthumping at some point then :) === cpaelzer_away is now known as cpaelzer [13:51] * Laney puts a banging donk on it [14:47] Laney: do you know how I generate debian/upstream/signing-key.asc when releasing? I mean, when debian folder is included in the upstream code that we release.. [14:47] looks like a chicken/egg issue [14:47] why? [14:47] I mean if that file has to be in the tarball, how can I generate the tarball? [14:48] it's the public key of the gpg key you use to sign the tarballs [14:48] doesn't change [14:48] ahhhhhh.... ok... I misread the thing then [14:50] this probably doesn't make that much sense with the ci train [14:52] Trevinho: do you try to access desktop with Unity 7/Compiz machinevia VNC recently ? [14:52] I looked all over the web and evne if the xdamage extension from the VNC server (x11vnc) if Compiz is enabled nothing appears on the screen [14:56] mhmh [15:03] I finally found a solution. I don't know exactly why If I use VM it doesn't work but with a secondary PC it works great. So strange for me because I don't know why. [15:28] wah [15:28] no tomboy on here [15:28] hey [15:30] hey there! [15:30] #startmeeting [15:30] Meeting started Tue Jun 28 15:30:44 2016 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [15:31] willcooke is busy so I'm going to lead this one [15:31] andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho , robert_ancell (out) [15:31] hope everybody os doing well! [15:31] is [15:31] o/ [15:31] :) [15:31] --. .- [15:32] hihi [15:32] ok, let's get started [15:32] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: andyrock [15:32] andyrock, hey [15:33] #1 proposed a branch for [BUG:1593696] Unity Lockscreen fails to show warnings on expiring passwords. [15:33] #2 right now working on [BUG:1575452] Copy/move dialog cannot be switched to [15:33] eof [15:33] thanks andyrock [15:33] #topic attente === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: attente [15:33] attente, hey [15:33] hey, just menus this week. finished porting over widgets to the new api, need to write docs and do more testing [15:33] (eof) [15:34] thanks attente [15:34] #topic desrt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: desrt [15:34] desrt, hey [15:34] word up. [15:34] not a super-productive week [15:34] reviewing, bugs, etc. and work continues on the path relocation stuff [15:34] eof [15:35] thanks desrt [15:35] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: dgadomski [15:35] hey [15:35] dgadomski, hey [15:35] * checking a potential ifupdown/ifenslave bug related to bug #1269921 [15:35] bug 1269921 in ifenslave (Ubuntu) "networking services restart hangs due to missing /etc/network/run/ifenslave.* files" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1269921 [15:35] * working on samba: bug #1592326 & bug #1592327 [15:35] bug 1592326 in samba (Ubuntu) "Permissions not inherited by files" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592326 [15:35] bug 1592327 in samba (Ubuntu) "force create mode not enforced on newly created files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592327 [15:35] * analysing a report of a samba bug - when symlinking to gvfs samba mounts there are issues with write access to files on Xenial (Trusty works fine), gathering more info before reporting a bug [15:35] eof [15:36] thanks dgadomski === sil2100_ is now known as sil2100 [15:36] #topic FJKong === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: FJKong [15:36] FJKong, hey [15:36] hello [15:36] All are about translating stuff: [15:36] bug#1586907 bug#1588662 bug#1588668 bug#1588683 bug#1588692 bug#1588641 bug#1588698 [15:36] eof [15:36] thanks FJKong [15:36] #topic happyaron === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: happyaron [15:36] happyaron, hey [15:37] no happyaron? [15:37] #topic hikiko [15:37] hikiko, hey === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: hikiko [15:37] hello [15:37] - removing the fade/animations from u7 when low gfx is enabled [15:37] - fixing problems related to plugins unloading, conflicts, options etc [15:37] - OEM stuff (see trello/documents) [15:37] EOF [15:37] thanks hikiko [15:38] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Laney [15:38] Laney, hey [15:38] hi [15:38] no laptop this week so no fancy status [15:38] and ALSO I couldn't search mail for what I did [15:38] :-( [15:38] sooooooooooo [15:38] well I did some theme things [15:38] that's where memory kicks in! [15:38] working on gnome-terminal now [15:38] it's nearly good [15:38] thanks to jbicha for some work there [15:38] need to do ubiquity next [15:38] then I think that is the remaining big stuff [15:39] Trevinho came with some unity fixes [15:39] I also uploaded the new glib [15:39] it had a bug on 32 bit arches [15:39] new gstreamer SRUs as well I think? [15:39] which we fixed, so that is nice [15:39] some of that [15:39] but I think the main bit was last week [15:39] k [15:39] also some travel planning for the systemd conversion sprint [15:40] and helped with interviews earlier today [15:40] and was off yesterday [15:40] think that's all [15:40] and voted to exit [15:40] * seb128 hides [15:40] sorry :-) [15:40] friday was actually not that productive due to this [15:40] I guess you were not the only one... [15:40] thanks Laney! [15:40] wonder if the rest of the 48% were like this [15:41] some of the 52% were like that as well it looks like [15:41] anyway [15:41] next! [15:41] #topic qengho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: qengho [15:41] qengho, hey [15:41] if you are not around I've your summary :-) [15:42] seems he's not, so here we go [15:42] Slow few days because of failed laptop. [15:42] - Testing fix for Cr SEGV on ARM. [15:42] - Google Chrome and Chromium snaps. Some more font problems. Grr. [15:42] - dekko and tor snaps on back-burner. [15:42] #topic Sweet5hark === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Sweet5hark [15:42] Sweet5hark, hey [15:42] - set up another machine as alternative snap builder [15:42] - prepared backports/fixes for xenial, wily, trusty (after triage: no patch needed), precise [15:42] -- was more work then expected as the affected area changed quite a lot over time [15:42] - moved snap to 5.2.0 rc1 [15:42] - did some work on l10n for libreoffice snap, but troubles remain still [15:42] - build and tested libreoffice snap in confined mode -- seen to work basically [15:42] => thus we should soon be able to publish via store soon [15:42] - various LibreOffice admin stuff: e.g. redtape to diversify TDF cash/investments [15:42] EOF [15:43] Sweet5hark, thanks [15:43] good news for snap confined! [15:43] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: seb128 [15:43] seems like I forgot myself :p [15:43] travelled to Boston for UES planning meetings, no surprise just work to do for UES teams on snappy and convergence and us to help where we can [15:43] • worked a bit with d_pm and d_idrocks on improving the common wrapper from snaps/gtk [15:43] • some more snap work and discussions [15:43] • helped with second round interviews for our open positions [15:44] hey, sent my updates to will... [15:44] bah, copy fail, the first item lacks the * [15:44] #topic happyaron === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: happyaron [15:44] 1. some n-m crash analysis [15:44] 2. n-m update for LP: #1595707 [15:44] 3. work on the powersave patch [15:44] 4. review/update of dkms patches at Debian [15:44] 5. help FJ to review Chinese translations of U8 apps [15:44] Launchpad bug 1595707 in network-manager (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU]crash in nmc_find_connection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1595707 [15:44] happyaron, I didn't get it (I think), maybe you sent it late [15:44] EOF [15:44] thanks! [15:44] #topic TheMuso === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: TheMuso [15:44] * Continued work on snapping things, and hitting brick walls, but with no concrete plans for some things, has left me feeling somewhat frustrated. [15:44] * Merged alsa-utils and alsa-plugins from Debian. [15:44] * Merged speech-dispatcher from debian. [15:44] * Backing up data etc in preparation for upgrading to yakkety. [15:45] #topic tkamppeter === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: tkamppeter [15:45] tkamppeter, hey [15:45] - cups-filters: Converted script-based pstopdf and gstopxl filters into a C-based filter as scripts do not work with current CUPS any more. [15:45] - cups-filters: Completed cups-browsed PPD generator changes to always create PPDs for discovered IPP network printers and do not need the System V interface scripts nay more. [15:45] - cups-filters: Fixed 1-bit RGB output crash in pdftoraster. [15:45] - Google Summer of Code 2016: Guide students through their projects [15:45] - Bugs [15:45] thanks tkamppeter [15:45] #topic Trevinho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Trevinho [15:45] Trevinho, hey [15:46] · New compiz landing [15:46] · Prepared compiz 0.13.0 release [15:46] · Released libwnck 3.20.1 [15:46] · Fixed unity decoration selectors for gtk 3.20 [15:46] . Continued working in unity system components menu items [15:46] /EOF [15:46] thanks Trevinho [15:46] #topic robert_ancell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: robert_ancell [15:46] - Landed LightDM Unity 8 in-session greeter changes [15:46] - LightDM SRU testing [15:46] - GNOME Software snap work [15:47] #topic other topics? === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: other topics? [15:47] did I forgot anyone? [15:47] anything else you want to discuss? [15:48] seems not [15:48] thanks everyone! [15:48] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks [15:48] Meeting ended Tue Jun 28 15:48:25 2016 UTC. [15:48] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-06-28-15.30.moin.txt [15:48] thanks! [15:48] quality meeting [15:50] 10/10 would meet again [15:51] :-) [15:58] looks like I missed the fun, thanks a lot seb128 [16:02] willcooke, yw! [16:17] happyaron, sorry, was on a call and didnt see your email in time re: updates (<- seb128) [17:43] Sweet5hark: Good evening :) Do you receive my private message about LibreOffice ? [18:31] hrmm [18:31] where is the info on what to use instead of gksu/gksudo since that was removed from the default install? [18:36] I'll go to my home. See you tomorrow. [22:29] Good morning!