/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/28/#ubuntu-discuss.txt

lotuspsychjegood morning to all04:39
ducassemorning all06:12
lordievaderGood morning.07:00
BluesKajHeyas all12:06
naccdang, nRy2 promised to leave, and then people started talking to them again18:04
daftykinssummon the ops18:04
naccdaftykins: yeah, it might be time again18:05
daftykinswhat's this one up to?18:05
naccwanting support for Intel RST, but not really responding to anyone's responses18:06
naccstating one thing, then arguing they did not say it even when quoted directly back to them :)18:06
daftykinsoh that's just #freenode support seekers in general :P "i have a question but i won't actually take any of the advice"18:06
naccheh18:07
Bashing-omJust more niose to tolerate.18:10
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Bashing-omAway for a bit .21:26
Bashing-omback ..22:44
EriC^^welcome back :)22:44
Bashing-omEriC^^: I see EriC^^ you have had a tough time of it. You have been kept occupied .22:47
EriC^^yeah :D22:47
daftykins^_^ problem user eh?22:49
Bashing-omNaw .. he is easy to work with .. just mentally challenged with testdisk and photorec; trying to recover his data .22:55
daftykinsah, perhaps even the best go loopy when their data is in question :)22:56
Bashing-omdaftykins: Quilty ! - in the past ... I did learn .. 3 backups !22:56
daftykins:D22:57
nacctgm4883: good luck.23:20
tgm4883nacc: I'm passively dealing with this. I'm playing kerbal space program on steam on my second monitor23:21
naccheh23:21
* nacc goes back to unbreaking another 16.04 php package in universe23:22
daftykinso023:23
* nacc did the migration from php5 to php723:24
naccmost things worked -- not everything did :)23:24
nacctgm4883: lol23:28
tgm4883nacc: so I'm thinking we walk him through removing those other packages and the repo, deleting ~/.steam and then installing the package from the main repos23:34
tgm4883although we really need an lspci23:34
nacctgm4883: yeah, that should get steam itself working23:35
nacctgm4883: lspci eventually for sound, probably, yeah :)23:35
tgm4883nacc: yea I was hoping sound and video card23:35
nacctgm4883: ah good point, forgot there was also a video issue23:36
nacctgm4883: looks like they may need multiverse enabled too23:36
daftykinswhich bit for?23:36
naccsteam23:36
daftykins!info steam23:36
ubot5steam (source: steam): Valve's Steam digital software delivery system. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 1:1.0.0.48-1ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 853 kB, installed size 2600 kB (Only available for i386)23:36
daftykinsright y'are23:36
daftykinsah you guys remind me of the fun of problem solving, but due to ban, no more23:37
* nacc is sort of curious what got you banned :)23:38
Ben64"!guidelines"23:41
tgm4883daftykins: all I see is that you found a way out ;)23:41
naccBen64: thanks23:42
daftykinsnacc: guy was in there for like a week with problems, saw us helping others and only a week in decided to tell us it was non-final the release he was on23:43
daftykinsnaturally i called him the idiot he was and BAM no more me23:43
daftykinstgm4883: i think you're right there ;)23:43
naccdaftykins: ah :/23:44
nacclol23:45
naccnow the keyboard isn't working23:45
Ben64definitely a way out23:45
Ben64keyboard not working23:45
Ben64sound not working23:45
Ben64steam not working23:45
Ben64video not working23:45
Ben64anything else?23:45
daftykinssounds like an average day ;)23:45
daftykinsif that's a gaming laptop that should be running Windows like it came with, that'd be the full set!23:46
Ben64well that was a waste of everything23:47
naccBen64: completely23:47
daftykinswhat happened?23:47
Ben64<Valkyrie115> this doesn't happen with mac os x or windows23:47
* tgm4883 goes to lookup what daftykins did to get banned so he can do the same23:47
Ben64says the guy who almost assuredly has never installed windows fresh23:48
nacclol23:48
Ben64seriously have any of you installed windows from cd23:48
Ben64its frustrating as hell23:48
daftykinsis... is it a mac!?23:48
nacconce, long ago23:48
OerHeksi have a fresh sealed 95 ..23:48
daftykinswhat do you mean? the installer since 7 has been super easy23:48
Ben64of course a computer comes set up and working fine with windows from the manufacturer23:48
Ben64you still need to hunt down drivers everywhere23:48
daftykinsoh you just mean driver hell?23:48
tgm4883I've installed windows 8.1 and previous from CD. Windows 10 via ISO to a VM23:48
daftykinsnah not with 8 and 10 anymore, as it goes23:48
Ben64i'm sure it'll happen there too23:49
tgm4883it's no more frustrating that installing Ubuntu23:49
daftykinsthey've developed a habit of everything being published to Windows Update, so with 10 you no longer have to install anything23:49
tgm4883except the post install updates23:49
Ben64much more frustrating than ubuntu23:49
daftykinsnah i'm dead serious, once you get a 10 install online it grabs everything off WU and then it's done - nothing to do23:49
Ben64ubuntu you need to get graphics and usually thats it23:49
Ben64daftykins: unless it doesn't have the network driver23:49
daftykins*nod* only very new stuff lacks that though23:50
nacclol23:50
Ben64so annoying23:50
nacc"< Valkyrie115> I had sound driver issues in Windows 10 as well"23:50
daftykinsbut that's one versus all of them as it used to be23:50
nacci thought windows was perfect :)23:50
Ben64oh damn he came back23:50
daxmy Windows 10 USB stick has network drivers for the relevant cards on it now thanks to that23:50
tgm4883daftykins: to be fair, that's usually the issue with Linux driver support as well. Only really new stuff23:50
daftykinsseriously is it a mac?23:50
OerHeksmost of my 54 mbit wlan adapters work OOTB, and have saved my day more than once23:50
daxbut yeah, once you bootstrap that Windows Update tends to be able to do most of the rest23:50
daftykinstgm4883: *nod* and pesky manufacturers that break standards etc23:50
daftykinsthe truth never told is that all OSs suck, we just pick the one we mind cleaning up the mess of the least23:51
Ben64back to sound issue i guess?23:51
Ben64dude can't focus on one thing23:51
naccdaftykins: absoutely, it's all tradeoffs in different directions23:53
naccdaftykins: easiest thing these days is to research your hardware if possible and buy something that needs the least tweaking :)23:53
daftykinsyip yip, although everywheres so full of old info it can be a struggle23:54
tgm4883nacc: daftykins since I've been doing that, I've had 0 issues that I can recall23:54
naccdaftykins: yeah, that's absolutely the truth of it now, so much outofdate stuff23:54
OerHeksissue-jumpers ...23:54
tgm4883it's a good thing I don't have OP in #ubuntu23:58
daftykinstruth be told i miss being in there to keep current, not that i use or even support Linux distros in meatspace :)23:58
* tgm4883 goes back to building a space station23:58
daxKerbal?23:59

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