[04:39] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:12] <ducasse> morning all
[07:00] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Heyas all
[18:04] <nacc> dang, nRy2 promised to leave, and then people started talking to them again
[18:04] <daftykins> summon the ops
[18:05] <nacc> daftykins: yeah, it might be time again
[18:05] <daftykins> what's this one up to?
[18:06] <nacc> wanting support for Intel RST, but not really responding to anyone's responses
[18:06] <nacc> stating one thing, then arguing they did not say it even when quoted directly back to them :)
[18:06] <daftykins> oh that's just #freenode support seekers in general :P "i have a question but i won't actually take any of the advice"
[18:07] <nacc> heh
[18:10] <Bashing-om> Just more niose to tolerate.
[21:26] <Bashing-om> Away for a bit .
[22:44] <Bashing-om> back ..
[22:44] <EriC^^> welcome back :)
[22:47] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: I see EriC^^ you have had a tough time of it. You have been kept occupied .
[22:47] <EriC^^> yeah :D
[22:49] <daftykins> ^_^ problem user eh?
[22:55] <Bashing-om> Naw .. he is easy to work with .. just mentally challenged with testdisk and photorec; trying to recover his data .
[22:56] <daftykins> ah, perhaps even the best go loopy when their data is in question :)
[22:56] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Quilty ! - in the past ... I did learn .. 3 backups !
[22:57] <daftykins> :D
[23:20] <nacc> tgm4883: good luck.
[23:21] <tgm4883> nacc: I'm passively dealing with this. I'm playing kerbal space program on steam on my second monitor
[23:21] <nacc> heh
[23:22]  * nacc goes back to unbreaking another 16.04 php package in universe
[23:23] <daftykins> o0
[23:24]  * nacc did the migration from php5 to php7
[23:24] <nacc> most things worked -- not everything did :)
[23:28] <nacc> tgm4883: lol
[23:34] <tgm4883> nacc: so I'm thinking we walk him through removing those other packages and the repo, deleting ~/.steam and then installing the package from the main repos
[23:34] <tgm4883> although we really need an lspci
[23:35] <nacc> tgm4883: yeah, that should get steam itself working
[23:35] <nacc> tgm4883: lspci eventually for sound, probably, yeah :)
[23:35] <tgm4883> nacc: yea I was hoping sound and video card
[23:36] <nacc> tgm4883: ah good point, forgot there was also a video issue
[23:36] <nacc> tgm4883: looks like they may need multiverse enabled too
[23:36] <daftykins> which bit for?
[23:36] <nacc> steam
[23:36] <daftykins> !info steam
[23:36] <daftykins> right y'are
[23:37] <daftykins> ah you guys remind me of the fun of problem solving, but due to ban, no more
[23:38]  * nacc is sort of curious what got you banned :)
[23:41] <Ben64> "!guidelines"
[23:41] <tgm4883> daftykins: all I see is that you found a way out ;)
[23:42] <nacc> Ben64: thanks
[23:43] <daftykins> nacc: guy was in there for like a week with problems, saw us helping others and only a week in decided to tell us it was non-final the release he was on
[23:43] <daftykins> naturally i called him the idiot he was and BAM no more me
[23:43] <daftykins> tgm4883: i think you're right there ;)
[23:44] <nacc> daftykins: ah :/
[23:45] <nacc> lol
[23:45] <nacc> now the keyboard isn't working
[23:45] <Ben64> definitely a way out
[23:45] <Ben64> keyboard not working
[23:45] <Ben64> sound not working
[23:45] <Ben64> steam not working
[23:45] <Ben64> video not working
[23:45] <Ben64> anything else?
[23:45] <daftykins> sounds like an average day ;)
[23:46] <daftykins> if that's a gaming laptop that should be running Windows like it came with, that'd be the full set!
[23:47] <Ben64> well that was a waste of everything
[23:47] <nacc> Ben64: completely
[23:47] <daftykins> what happened?
 this doesn't happen with mac os x or windows
[23:47]  * tgm4883 goes to lookup what daftykins did to get banned so he can do the same
[23:48] <Ben64> says the guy who almost assuredly has never installed windows fresh
[23:48] <nacc> lol
[23:48] <Ben64> seriously have any of you installed windows from cd
[23:48] <Ben64> its frustrating as hell
[23:48] <daftykins> is... is it a mac!?
[23:48] <nacc> once, long ago
[23:48] <OerHeks> i have a fresh sealed 95 ..
[23:48] <daftykins> what do you mean? the installer since 7 has been super easy
[23:48] <Ben64> of course a computer comes set up and working fine with windows from the manufacturer
[23:48] <Ben64> you still need to hunt down drivers everywhere
[23:48] <daftykins> oh you just mean driver hell?
[23:48] <tgm4883> I've installed windows 8.1 and previous from CD. Windows 10 via ISO to a VM
[23:48] <daftykins> nah not with 8 and 10 anymore, as it goes
[23:49] <Ben64> i'm sure it'll happen there too
[23:49] <tgm4883> it's no more frustrating that installing Ubuntu
[23:49] <daftykins> they've developed a habit of everything being published to Windows Update, so with 10 you no longer have to install anything
[23:49] <tgm4883> except the post install updates
[23:49] <Ben64> much more frustrating than ubuntu
[23:49] <daftykins> nah i'm dead serious, once you get a 10 install online it grabs everything off WU and then it's done - nothing to do
[23:49] <Ben64> ubuntu you need to get graphics and usually thats it
[23:49] <Ben64> daftykins: unless it doesn't have the network driver
[23:50] <daftykins> *nod* only very new stuff lacks that though
[23:50] <nacc> lol
[23:50] <Ben64> so annoying
[23:50] <nacc> "< Valkyrie115> I had sound driver issues in Windows 10 as well"
[23:50] <daftykins> but that's one versus all of them as it used to be
[23:50] <nacc> i thought windows was perfect :)
[23:50] <Ben64> oh damn he came back
[23:50] <dax> my Windows 10 USB stick has network drivers for the relevant cards on it now thanks to that
[23:50] <tgm4883> daftykins: to be fair, that's usually the issue with Linux driver support as well. Only really new stuff
[23:50] <daftykins> seriously is it a mac?
[23:50] <OerHeks> most of my 54 mbit wlan adapters work OOTB, and have saved my day more than once
[23:50] <dax> but yeah, once you bootstrap that Windows Update tends to be able to do most of the rest
[23:50] <daftykins> tgm4883: *nod* and pesky manufacturers that break standards etc
[23:51] <daftykins> the truth never told is that all OSs suck, we just pick the one we mind cleaning up the mess of the least
[23:51] <Ben64> back to sound issue i guess?
[23:51] <Ben64> dude can't focus on one thing
[23:53] <nacc> daftykins: absoutely, it's all tradeoffs in different directions
[23:53] <nacc> daftykins: easiest thing these days is to research your hardware if possible and buy something that needs the least tweaking :)
[23:54] <daftykins> yip yip, although everywheres so full of old info it can be a struggle
[23:54] <tgm4883> nacc: daftykins since I've been doing that, I've had 0 issues that I can recall
[23:54] <nacc> daftykins: yeah, that's absolutely the truth of it now, so much outofdate stuff
[23:54] <OerHeks> issue-jumpers ...
[23:58] <tgm4883> it's a good thing I don't have OP in #ubuntu
[23:58] <daftykins> truth be told i miss being in there to keep current, not that i use or even support Linux distros in meatspace :)
[23:58]  * tgm4883 goes back to building a space station
[23:59] <dax> Kerbal?