[04:39] good morning to all [06:12] morning all [07:00] Good morning. [12:06] Heyas all [18:04] dang, nRy2 promised to leave, and then people started talking to them again [18:04] summon the ops [18:05] daftykins: yeah, it might be time again [18:05] what's this one up to? [18:06] wanting support for Intel RST, but not really responding to anyone's responses [18:06] stating one thing, then arguing they did not say it even when quoted directly back to them :) [18:06] oh that's just #freenode support seekers in general :P "i have a question but i won't actually take any of the advice" [18:07] heh [18:10] Just more niose to tolerate. === pavlushka is now known as too_much_buggy_b === too_much_buggy_b is now known as pavlushka [21:26] Away for a bit . [22:44] back .. [22:44] welcome back :) [22:47] EriC^^: I see EriC^^ you have had a tough time of it. You have been kept occupied . [22:47] yeah :D [22:49] ^_^ problem user eh? [22:55] Naw .. he is easy to work with .. just mentally challenged with testdisk and photorec; trying to recover his data . [22:56] ah, perhaps even the best go loopy when their data is in question :) [22:56] daftykins: Quilty ! - in the past ... I did learn .. 3 backups ! [22:57] :D [23:20] tgm4883: good luck. [23:21] nacc: I'm passively dealing with this. I'm playing kerbal space program on steam on my second monitor [23:21] heh [23:22] * nacc goes back to unbreaking another 16.04 php package in universe [23:23] o0 [23:24] * nacc did the migration from php5 to php7 [23:24] most things worked -- not everything did :) [23:28] tgm4883: lol [23:34] nacc: so I'm thinking we walk him through removing those other packages and the repo, deleting ~/.steam and then installing the package from the main repos [23:34] although we really need an lspci [23:35] tgm4883: yeah, that should get steam itself working [23:35] tgm4883: lspci eventually for sound, probably, yeah :) [23:35] nacc: yea I was hoping sound and video card [23:36] tgm4883: ah good point, forgot there was also a video issue [23:36] tgm4883: looks like they may need multiverse enabled too [23:36] which bit for? [23:36] steam [23:36] !info steam [23:36] steam (source: steam): Valve's Steam digital software delivery system. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 1:1.0.0.48-1ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 853 kB, installed size 2600 kB (Only available for i386) [23:36] right y'are [23:37] ah you guys remind me of the fun of problem solving, but due to ban, no more [23:38] * nacc is sort of curious what got you banned :) [23:41] "!guidelines" [23:41] daftykins: all I see is that you found a way out ;) [23:42] Ben64: thanks [23:43] nacc: guy was in there for like a week with problems, saw us helping others and only a week in decided to tell us it was non-final the release he was on [23:43] naturally i called him the idiot he was and BAM no more me [23:43] tgm4883: i think you're right there ;) [23:44] daftykins: ah :/ [23:45] lol [23:45] now the keyboard isn't working [23:45] definitely a way out [23:45] keyboard not working [23:45] sound not working [23:45] steam not working [23:45] video not working [23:45] anything else? [23:45] sounds like an average day ;) [23:46] if that's a gaming laptop that should be running Windows like it came with, that'd be the full set! [23:47] well that was a waste of everything [23:47] Ben64: completely [23:47] what happened? [23:47] this doesn't happen with mac os x or windows [23:47] * tgm4883 goes to lookup what daftykins did to get banned so he can do the same [23:48] says the guy who almost assuredly has never installed windows fresh [23:48] lol [23:48] seriously have any of you installed windows from cd [23:48] its frustrating as hell [23:48] is... is it a mac!? [23:48] once, long ago [23:48] i have a fresh sealed 95 .. [23:48] what do you mean? the installer since 7 has been super easy [23:48] of course a computer comes set up and working fine with windows from the manufacturer [23:48] you still need to hunt down drivers everywhere [23:48] oh you just mean driver hell? [23:48] I've installed windows 8.1 and previous from CD. Windows 10 via ISO to a VM [23:48] nah not with 8 and 10 anymore, as it goes [23:49] i'm sure it'll happen there too [23:49] it's no more frustrating that installing Ubuntu [23:49] they've developed a habit of everything being published to Windows Update, so with 10 you no longer have to install anything [23:49] except the post install updates [23:49] much more frustrating than ubuntu [23:49] nah i'm dead serious, once you get a 10 install online it grabs everything off WU and then it's done - nothing to do [23:49] ubuntu you need to get graphics and usually thats it [23:49] daftykins: unless it doesn't have the network driver [23:50] *nod* only very new stuff lacks that though [23:50] lol [23:50] so annoying [23:50] "< Valkyrie115> I had sound driver issues in Windows 10 as well" [23:50] but that's one versus all of them as it used to be [23:50] i thought windows was perfect :) [23:50] oh damn he came back [23:50] my Windows 10 USB stick has network drivers for the relevant cards on it now thanks to that [23:50] daftykins: to be fair, that's usually the issue with Linux driver support as well. Only really new stuff [23:50] seriously is it a mac? [23:50] most of my 54 mbit wlan adapters work OOTB, and have saved my day more than once [23:50] but yeah, once you bootstrap that Windows Update tends to be able to do most of the rest [23:50] tgm4883: *nod* and pesky manufacturers that break standards etc [23:51] the truth never told is that all OSs suck, we just pick the one we mind cleaning up the mess of the least [23:51] back to sound issue i guess? [23:51] dude can't focus on one thing [23:53] daftykins: absoutely, it's all tradeoffs in different directions [23:53] daftykins: easiest thing these days is to research your hardware if possible and buy something that needs the least tweaking :) [23:54] yip yip, although everywheres so full of old info it can be a struggle [23:54] nacc: daftykins since I've been doing that, I've had 0 issues that I can recall [23:54] daftykins: yeah, that's absolutely the truth of it now, so much outofdate stuff [23:54] issue-jumpers ... [23:58] it's a good thing I don't have OP in #ubuntu [23:58] truth be told i miss being in there to keep current, not that i use or even support Linux distros in meatspace :) [23:58] * tgm4883 goes back to building a space station [23:59] Kerbal?