[00:00] <Rob_Wilco> TGVoid, have you tried making an image to work with just in case using something like clonezilla?
[00:00] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Although last time I did that, I used a SATA/IDE->USB converter cable, hooked the drive up to a functional Ubuntu system, and ran testdisk on it.
[00:02] <TGVoid> Rob_Wilco: No. I only have enough space to get my files out, so I can't clone the image
[00:03] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: Is it safe?
[00:04] <dax> is the corruption because of software failure or hardware failure
[00:04] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Safe how?
[00:04] <TGVoid> dax: I'm not sure. I think software
[00:04] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: Will it modify my image?
[00:04] <python90210> why does it take so long to identify/register
[00:04] <dax> if software failure: any read-only mechanism is safe. if hardware failure: no mechanism is safe and every time you touch it you risk further data loss
[00:04] <python90210> unbelievable
[00:04] <dax> python90210: because you ask in unrelated channels instead of talking to staff directly or waiting to be voiced in #freenode
[00:05] <python90210> can't get into freenode without registering
[00:05] <k1l> honestly i would not touch that drive too often. use ddrescue to get an image of the disk and try to rescue at that image.
[00:05] <dax> python90210: yes, you can. you need to wait to be voiced, as the channel topic there says
[00:05] <python90210> #freenode
[00:05] <TGVoid> dax: I made an image of the drive and the drive is gone. I have only the image to work with
[00:06] <dax> then any read-only mechanism is safe. personally, when doing computer forensics i keep two copies of the drive image
[00:06] <dax> because while my tools are safe i am occasionally an idiot
[00:08] <TGVoid> dax: Is testdisk fine?
[00:08] <Pencil2> wow my ubuntu updates daily.
[00:08] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Ah, sorry...I'm bouncing between rooms here. No, it won't modify the image. It only copies stuff from it, IMHO.
[00:08] <CodeMouse92> *IME
[00:09] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: How do I get it going?
[00:10] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: It's been a while. Hmm. You aren't running Ubuntu off of the damaged partition/disk in question, right?
[00:10] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: I'm running it off a USB
[00:10] <JFlash> how do I connect to a local websocket server from the command line?
[00:11] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: I'm trying to find the docs. It has been a loooong while since I used testdisk. I only know it works
[00:11] <k1l> well testdisk tries to repair the partitiontable. its not read-only
[00:12] <CodeMouse92> k1l, TGVoid, mm, yeah, finding that now. Probably best to work off a disk image.
[00:13] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: My disk is gone and I only have an image of it. My drive was replaced when I sent it in for repair
[00:13] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Make a copy of the image, then. :)
[00:13] <CodeMouse92> I found instructions at http://computriks.com/en/recover-file-testdisk. These look like the set I used.
[00:14] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: I can
[00:14] <k1l> maybe you mean photorec. that is in the testdisk package too. that looks out for data
[00:14] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: I can't copy the image. I only have enough space for my image and the files
[00:14] <TGVoid> k1l: Photorec is read only?
[00:15] <CodeMouse92> (Photorec instructions: http://computriks.com/en/recover-file-photorec_
[00:15] <CodeMouse92> *http://computriks.com/en/recover-file-photorec
[00:16] <k1l> TGVoid: you can tell photorec to store the found stuff somewhere else.
[00:16] <k1l> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[00:17] <[TiZ]> Hi there. I installed an nvidia-364 package which creates a hook in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks. This hook inserts the nvidia_364 driver into the initramfs, which causes it to start my optimus card on boot. I need that to not happen. What can I do to disable that hook?
[00:21] <TGVoid> k1l: Is there a solution that keeps names?
[00:21] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: testdisk, but then you'd be modifying the image
[00:21] <k1l> what is wrong with that image at all?
[00:22] <emilio> 5
[00:22] <TGVoid> k1l: The image came from a corrupted drive. I won't have the drive in possession ever again.
[00:22] <Guest58989> hola
[00:22] <k1l> so did you mount that image?
[00:23] <TGVoid> k1l: The drive wouldn't mount, and the image didn't either
[00:24] <Guest58989> hola alguien ?
[00:24] <k1l> !es | Guest58989
[00:25] <Guest58989> gracias
[00:27] <TGVoid> k1l: Will photorec keep files in the same directory?
[00:28] <TGVoid> k1l: And can Testdisk modify the image so it's unusable, or just modify it?
[00:28] <k1l> no. it will just look for files and get them out of the image to the destination selected.
[00:28] <parsjot> I used a photo as the desktop background and when I went to change back to the defaults they were all gone. Any idea what I did? usr/share/backgrounds and usr/share/wallpapers don't have them...and the drop down menu in desktop settings has "backgrounds" in it but it's blank
[00:28] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: I can answer that second one. testdisk will attempt to modify the image to make it usable, yes.
[00:29] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Did you possibly uninstall 'ubuntu-wallpapers'?
[00:29] <k1l> TGVoid: honestly: i would make another copy of that image and try to work on that. i would start with looking for partitions. if they are ok i would try to mount them and see if a fsck can get something done.
[00:29] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: k1l Does Testdisk keep files in directories in which they're found?
[00:29] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: It attempts to, yes.
[00:30] <parsjot> not intentionally...literally all I did was go to desktop settings and select a photo in my Pictures directory...then didn't like it and wanted to switch back but can't
[00:30] <guilherme> hello
[00:30] <parsjot> i never chose to remove anything or selected any other options
[00:30] <TGVoid> k1l: The problem is that I have 2 1 TB drives with a 977 GB image
[00:30] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Weird. Just in case, in the Terminal, try running "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-wallpapers"
[00:30] <guilherme> plese
[00:31] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Or, actually, better: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-wallpapers"
[00:31] <parsjot> CodeMouse92: I am on Xubuntu 16.04 and did xubuntu-wallpapers and the output was that its already on the latest version
[00:31] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Did you try the --reinstall option?
[00:31] <CodeMouse92> "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-wallpapers"
[00:32] <TGVoid> I did sudo apt-get install testdisk and at the end it said "Unable to locate package testdisk"
[00:32] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: "sudo apt-get install testdisk"
[00:32] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: I cannot read. Nevermindf!
[00:32] <k1l> TGVoid: what ubuntu are you on exactly?
[00:32] <TGVoid> 16.04
[00:32] <k1l> universe enabled?
[00:32] <parsjot> it says the --resintall command not understood in combo with the rest...did I misread?
[00:32] <TGVoid> k1l: I'll enable it now
[00:33] <parsjot> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-wallpapers is what I did
[00:33] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Don't forget to run "sudo apt-get update" first
[00:34] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: That...should be working. Are you sure you typed "--reinstall" exactly?
[00:34] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: Same error
[00:34] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: So...sudo apt-get update is failing?
[00:34] <parsjot> nope typo...working on it
[00:35] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Assuming you have a working internet connection, run "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install testdisk". testdisk should be in the main repos
[00:35] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: "W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[00:35] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: I'm an idiot. I need internet
[00:35] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Done that more times than I can count. Idiots unite.
[00:36] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: USB wireless connection sticks work, right?
[00:36] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: They should. Depends on the stick.
[00:36] <CodeMouse92> Ubuntu is usually pretty friendly with those, though.
[00:37] <parsjot> CodeMouse92: did it..but still not in the desktop settings selection
[00:37] <parsjot> "backgrounds" in the drop down is still empty and that's where they all were before
[00:37] <TGVoid> Looks like mine doesn't work. I may get disconnected from IRC
[00:37] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Stupid idea - try restarting the machine...?
[00:37] <parsjot> I know this is just cosmetic and not so important...but its frustrating as things like this keep happening and I don't know how
[00:38] <parsjot> wiil restart
[00:38] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: Ethernet doesn't work either
[00:38] <TGVoid> There's nothing wrong with the cable and the jack lights up
[00:39] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Oh my. That's out of my expertise area, unfortunately. My way of handling internet is "plug it in and pray very hard"
[00:40] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: Idiot again. The other end unplugged.
[00:40]  * CodeMouse92 high fives TGVoid
[00:40] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: I'm starting to feel a lot less lonely.
[00:40] <CodeMouse92> I'm not the only one who does stuff like this.
[00:41] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: To make you feel less lonely, I just got my PC back from repair. I drank water from the opposite side of the table and some fell in -_-
[00:42] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: I was replacing my heatsink in another laptop, and I bumped something on the motherboard. Killed two of my three USB ports.
[00:42] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: My graphics card burned out. I'm lucky that my build had an APU.
[00:42] <compdoc> hurray
[00:42] <django_> hey al
[00:43] <django_> for latest ubuntu xenial which mongodb do i install here: https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-ubuntu/#create-a-list-file-for-mongodb
[00:43] <CodeMouse92> (I also once twice-zero-overwrote my entire hard drive by mistake, with 10+ years of irreplacable files and no backups. That's when I discoverd testdisk >.>
[00:43] <django_> the 12.04 or 14.04 ?
[00:43] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: I'm on testdisk now. I need a log file, right?
[00:43] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: It's a good idea
[00:43] <parsjot> CodeMouse92: no joy on restart
[00:44] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: /usr/share/backgrounds and /usr/share/wallpapers still empty?
[00:44] <parsjot> recreating the steps...I had a photo in my Pictures directory...right clicked "set as desktop background"...didn't like it...went to desktop settings where you can choose from the defaults but the defaults were missing
[00:44] <parsjot> those directories have things in them but not the missing backgrounds
[00:45] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: That is...very odd.
[00:45] <OerHeks> django_, i asume xenial> echo "deb http://repo.mongodb.org/apt/ubuntu xenial/mongodb-org/3.2 multiverse" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mongodb-org-3.2.list
[00:46] <parsjot> yeah...I have lots of odd things like this happen. Docky suddenly disappeared yesterday and it was a massive effort to get it to reinstall propery
[00:46] <parsjot> same sort of thing where all I did was change a built in setting and suddenly it was gone
[00:46] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: What version of Xubuntu are you on?
[00:47] <parsjot> if I select "backgrounds" from the desktop settings menu it's empty...and that selection had about 12 or so photos and wallpapers before...I am on 16.04 updated
[00:47] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Is it a recent install, or just an upgrade?
[00:47] <django_> OerHeks, http://askubuntu.com/questions/757384/can-i-use-14-04-mongodb-packages-with-16-04
[00:47] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: How would I make my drive image appear on Testdisk?
[00:47] <parsjot> clean install...month old maybe? WOrks fine for the most part
[00:48] <parsjot> just random weird stuff like this
[00:48] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: I'm not sure I understand.
[00:48] <parsjot> literally all I did was change the background
[00:48] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Strange question, do watch batteries not last long for you?
[00:48] <parsjot> lol...no they seem to be fine
[00:49] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: On testdisk it says "select media." I need to select my image. How do I select it?
[00:49] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: I only ask because I have known two people I dub 'edge cases' - they literally cause computer glitches due to unusually high electromagnetic fields. (One actually would register quite high on a voltimeter. It was weird)
[00:50] <parsjot> nah...eventually I can track down the cause for all this stuff...its just always uncommon and maybe I can fine one other perosn posting about ti somewhere with no responses
[00:50] <parsjot> but I don'
[00:50] <parsjot> don't know wtf I could ahve done here
[00:51] <parsjot> docky suddenly disappeared on me last night when I tried to add a docklet...found one guy with same problem posting but no replies and he had been banned from that forum
[00:53] <parsjot> eventually I removed all bits and pieces I could find that were related to docky and finally got it to reinstall and it works ok now....but all I did was click "add docket" and it went and disappered and would not launch after many reinstalls
[00:53] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Ooookay, I wonder if you run 'sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-wallpapers', and THEN install them?
[00:54] <parsjot> will try..but again this is under "backgrounds" not "wallpapers"....there are some things in wallpapers but not the default missing ones
[00:54] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: It appears you need to run "testdisk theimage.dd" or whatever
[00:54] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: What format is your image in?
[00:55] <parsjot> the directories in wallpapers are old Ubuntu stuff like Joy and Joy_Inksplat...not the nice pictures or 16.04 background that was in the desktop settings menu
[00:56] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Ironically, the "-wallpaper" packages install to /usr/share/backgrounds
[00:56] <CodeMouse92> Don't ask my why. It makes no sense
[00:57] <parsjot> CodeMouse92: only thing in usr/share/backgrounds is an XFCE directory with two jpgs
[00:57] <TGVoid_> CodeMouse92: I do sudo testdisk drivepath, but it doesn't let me choose if I want a log
[00:58] <TGVoid_> Test
[00:58] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid_: It might be a command-line option. t's been a while, but what does testdisk --help show?
[00:58] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: ^^
[00:59] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: I think /log works
[01:00] <parsjot> CodeMouse92: are we sure its xubuntu-wallpapers I need to install? maybe xubuntu-16.04-wallpapers etc?
[01:00] <TGVoid> So sudo testdisk /log path
[01:00] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: You can try it...
[01:00] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: The partition table would be none since it's an image, correct?
[01:01] <parsjot> code I tried and nothing...
[01:01] <Queenslayer> testdisk
[01:01] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: It's an image of an NTFS drive
[01:01] <Queenslayer> someone mentioned testdisk...
[01:01] <TGVoid> I did
[01:01] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: It should have a parititon table type....I think.
[01:01] <parsjot> backgrounds is still empty except for the xfce jpegs
[01:01] <Queenslayer> TGVoid, do you know much about it?
[01:01]  * CodeMouse92 hands this over to Queenslayer.
[01:01] <Queenslayer> CodeMouse92, please don't
[01:01] <TGVoid> Queenslayer: Nope. I know close to nothing about Linux in general
[01:02] <Queenslayer> lol, I probably know less than TGVoid
[01:02] <CodeMouse92> Queenslayer: Ah, okay. It's just that I'm sure you know a LOT more about this than I do.
[01:02] <CodeMouse92> Queenslayer: Ah.
[01:02] <Queenslayer> CodeMouse92, doubt it very much
[01:02] <Queenslayer> I've only just started using it
[01:02] <Queenslayer> Managed to get a few things done, but not efficiently
[01:02] <parsjot> I want to love linux but this crap happens continuously...with no apparent cause
[01:02] <Queenslayer> cylinder, sector, etc, settings
[01:02] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Yeah, it's rather freaky
[01:02] <parsjot> and when I finally fix it after days it's always "well that's a weird bug"....gah
[01:03] <CodeMouse92> (That is, your bugs are. I've never seen them before!)
[01:03] <sponix> parsjot: You don't even have to Like Linux.. I love it enough for both of us !!
[01:03] <Arcaire> I spent four hours installing Arch last night.
[01:03] <parsjot> sponix: if it wouldn't do bizarre things Id love it
[01:03] <Arcaire> I could've driven to a store, purchased an iMac, got home, set it up, and have all my apps downloaded in the time it took to install a WM.
[01:04] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: Testdisk detects it as none, but it's an image of an NTFS drive. Do I choose "None" or "Intel"?
[01:04] <parsjot> but if I cant even change a default setting without it removing something it is a problem
[01:04] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Technically your image is exactly that - an exact copy of the hard drive,.
[01:04] <Arcaire> Linux is great and all but damn it has far, far too many rough edges.
[01:04] <sponix> parsjot: Sure it isn't YOU doing bizarre things, and Linux acting perfectly normal ?
[01:04] <parsjot> Arcaire: every time I think "hey this is working well" something stupid happens
[01:04] <Arcaire> Heh, same.
[01:04] <Arcaire> My server boxen are fine, my desktop is just
[01:04] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: That's tough. Part of me thinks you should trust Testdisk, and the other part of me thinks you should go with Intel, since that's what the disk *should* have been
[01:05] <parsjot> sponix: yes....its not me...it's things like choosing one of a few choices from a setting menu and clicking "ok" and when I do the whole app disappears
[01:05] <parsjot> things like that
[01:05] <Queenslayer> TGVoid, what do you want from it?
[01:05] <Queenslayer> Photorec is a safer bet, or so I've heard
[01:05] <k1l> Arcaire: lets focus on technical ubuntu support in here. for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:05] <Arcaire> k1l: That's pretty technical tbh.
[01:05] <Queenslayer> If you've installed testdisk, just do 'sudo photorec'
[01:05] <sponix> parsjot: Sounds like you may have a Bad Flavor of Linux  :)
[01:05] <TGVoid> Queenslayer: Videos, a Minecraft server, random audio files, Premiere Elements project files
[01:06] <Queenslayer> yeah go photorec first then
[01:06] <TGVoid> Queenslayer: The thing is, it doesn't recover file names or directories
[01:06] <TGVoid> Queenslayer: Many of the files would be useless without the name
[01:06] <Arcaire> To clarify
[01:06] <Arcaire> what are you trying to do?
[01:06] <parsjot> like this...I just opened a terminal window...for about the 100th time today....and the font is huge
[01:06] <parsjot> twice as big as it is by default and every other time...I didn't change anything!
[01:07] <parsjot> ctrl-alt-t and wham huge font in the terminal
[01:07] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: My gut says Intel, but it's a gamble
[01:07] <sponix> parsjot: My Linux is Minty Fresh (Linux Mint 17.3) and it runs smooth.. Might _try_ it if you like
[01:07] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Was this a copy of the entire drive, or just one partition thereof? Also, what OS was running on it?
[01:07] <k1l> sponix: offtopic too
[01:07] <Tin_man> parsjot, i think you need to call Ghost Busters. (oh man)
[01:07] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: It was a copy of a partition and it was Windows NTFS
[01:08] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Just a partition? None.
[01:08] <k1l> parsjot: are you sure that no zoom is enabled or another terminal profile is loaded?
[01:08] <Queenslayer> TGVoid, I'd extract an image from testdisk and then work on the .dd fike
[01:08] <Queenslayer> *file
[01:08] <CodeMouse92> Queenslayer: That's what he has.
[01:08] <Queenslayer> oh, then try anything
[01:08] <parsjot> Tin_man: this is so weird....it was fine for weeks...then yesterday docky(but that was a docky bug)....today backgrounds and terminal wtf?
[01:09] <CodeMouse92> Queenslayer: But, no drive. He shipped that off for recovery attempt
[01:09] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: Erm... "Do NOT select 'None' for media with only a single partition."
[01:09] <parsjot> ok in all seriousness....can we work one problem at a time?
[01:09] <Tin_man> i've been following along
[01:09] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Okay, then just go with Intel.
[01:09] <parsjot> How could the terminal font size have spontaneously enlarged?
[01:09] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: It *shouldn't*.
[01:09] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: Analyze now?
[01:09] <Superuser> How to allocate (ksh,  sh, etc.) to different users at time of user creation?
[01:09] <parsjot> I had never changed it from defautl...just ctrol-alt-t'ing all day long
[01:09] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Yes
[01:09] <reisio> parsjot: as in outside of X?
[01:09] <k1l> TGVoid: did you look one time in the step by step howto i linked you?
[01:10] <reisio> parsjot: ctrl+mousewheel, maybe
[01:10] <parsjot> few min ago I opened one and it was monospace 12 pt....I dont know what default is
[01:10] <Tin_man> don't have a clue, i've never experienced anything like it
[01:10] <parsjot> but that was big
[01:10] <TGVoid> k1l: For Testdisk?
[01:10] <TGVoid> k1l: Can you re-send it?
[01:10] <Superuser> ??
[01:10] <parsjot> reisio: Ahhh!!!!...only an old touch pad on laptop but it is wonky...maybe the cause!
[01:10] <parsjot> does anyone know what the default terminal font and size is?
[01:10] <TGVoid> Hey reisio! Thanks for your help that one day!
[01:11] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Usually Ubuntu Monospace or droid, and 10 pt
[01:11] <parsjot> xubuntu 16.04 if it matters....
[01:11] <reisio> TGVoid: np man
[01:11] <Tin_man> there you go, a probable cause..
[01:11] <k1l> TGVoid: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[01:11] <Superuser> How to allocate (ksh,  sh, etc.) to different users at time of user creation?
[01:11] <parsjot> CodeMouse92: yep! put it back to mono 10pt and its good...maybe I somehow changed it with a shortcut etc
[01:11] <Superuser> ??
[01:11] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Maybe.
[01:12] <parsjot> but dont see a way to do so with scrolling...so not sure...is there a way to change font size other than the selection menu in preferences? becuse that wasnt open
[01:12] <CodeMouse92> Superuser: Please be patient. There are only so many people here, and if someone knows the answer, they'll post it. Wait several minutes in between reposts at least.
[01:12] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Apparently by poltergeist?
[01:12] <parsjot> cant seem to duplicte enlaring it with mousepad or heavy handedness
[01:13] <thetruth_> does anyone know how to overclock my asus x99 delux motherboard? I just built my first rig and put a few thousand dollars into it and want it to run at its full potential. and which benchmarks should I run or are the most important? and what are some good programs to run the benchmarks for linux, specifically ubuntu Thanks!
[01:13] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: In all seriousness, I'm not sure. What terminal program was that. Just xcfe-terminal?
[01:13] <parsjot> yep
[01:13] <parsjot> default whatever that is I assume xfce?
[01:13] <k1l> !benchmark
[01:13] <parsjot> yeah xfce terminal
[01:13] <k1l> thetruth_: see the bots message
[01:13] <parsjot> 0.6.3
[01:13] <Tin_man> i've seen bad keyboards do some strange things before..
[01:14] <HackerII> thetruth_ burn it in before you decide to clock it
[01:14] <thetruth_> whats burn it?
[01:14] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: Should I use Quick Search or Backup?
[01:14] <parsjot> ok so problem that became a problem in the middle of another problem is back to normal
[01:14] <k1l> parsjot: press "crtl -"
[01:14] <parsjot> now back to the background stuff
[01:14] <thetruth_> and what is !terminal
[01:14] <HackerII> thetruth_ ya, wait a week or so, + make sure the north bridge has a good heat sink in it, or, forget it'
[01:15] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: I'd quicksearch. See what you find
[01:15] <parsjot> k1l: that didnt affect terminal ....just browser
[01:15] <k1l> parsjot: it effects the window that is in focus
[01:15] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: If it finds your partition, congrats. If not, you'll want to run Deep Search
[01:16] <parsjot> k1l: I mean when I did it in terminal it had no effect....just put a - in the display
[01:16] <k1l> thetruth_: "apt-cache search benchmark" in terminal will show you the packages that include some benchmarks
[01:16] <CodeMouse92> thetruth_: Also, beware that overclocking is aptly named - it's pushing it beyond the ideal limits of the CPU. Use with caution.
[01:16] <parsjot> it seemed to ignore the ctrl
[01:16] <k1l> parsjot: hold the ctrl then press -
[01:17] <parsjot> the weird thing about the terminal thing is it opened enlarged....it was already huge pt size when it opened...the time bfore it was normal
[01:17] <parsjot> k1l: I did...Im dumb but not THAT dumb ;)
[01:17] <thetruth_> I don tcare if i fry the cpu ill just get a new one
[01:17] <k1l> try with shift too. some devices seem to block single ctrl
[01:18] <parsjot> its funny...every time I come in here asking for help some new things go wrong while we are trying to figure out the old things...maybe I shouldnt tempy fate?
[01:18] <thetruth_> obviously i dont want to do anything supre reckless I just want it to be as fast as possible
[01:18] <parsjot> i cant imagine ever being proficient at this stuff
[01:19] <CodeMouse92> thetruth_: The non-overclocked mode is the non-risky "fast as possible". Beyond that, you're taking a risk
[01:19] <jim> thetruth_: overclocking is a risky, fairly extreme action, that is informed by your intimate knowledge of cpus and hardware... unless you're prepared to replace your cpu after overclocking too much destroys it, you should consider not trying this
[01:19] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: It comes with time. benefit to getting weird glitches, you learn how the system is put together a whoooole lot faster
[01:20] <Superuser> In which file to place an entry for allotting a shell while user creation?
[01:20] <CodeMouse92> thetruth_: Possibly stupid question: did you mount your CPU to the motherboard yourself, or is it integrated into the motherboard?
[01:20] <Superuser> ?
[01:20] <Arcaire> Superuser: //etc/adduser.conf
[01:20] <thetruth_> ok i gona run some benchmarks and see where im at
[01:21] <thetruth_> yea I did, I also water cooled it
[01:21] <thetruth_> im not an idiot ive just never done this before so im figuring everythign out as I go
[01:21] <CodeMouse92> thetruth_: Ah, okay, so you know what you're getting into, then :)
[01:21] <Arcaire> Superuser: Or, if you're using useradd, there's a skeleton file in /etc/default/useradd with the SHELL variable, which you can change.
[01:21] <Superuser> And by default which shell is allotted?
[01:21] <Arcaire> Er, I think it's /bin/bash.
[01:22] <CodeMouse92> (And we never said you're an idiot. Many people just don't know enough about this fairly advanced topic to know what they're getting into. You can't know what you don't know until you know it.)
[01:22] <CodeMouse92> thetruth_: ^^
[01:22] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChangingShells#Changing_your_login_shell_which_is_permanent
[01:22] <thetruth_> true
[01:23] <thetruth_> im a hands on kinda guy im sure ill fry a few things till i get it right but thats the only way to learn
[01:23] <parsjot> ok so does anyone know where I can redownload the default xubuntu 16.04 wallpapers that were in the "usr/share/backgrounds directory? Google only shows me articles about them..
[01:23] <parsjot> my f.lux also disappered....w....t....f
[01:23] <parsjot> maybe I need to just do a reinstall
[01:23] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: I was just about to say,...
[01:23] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: By the way, what led you to XCFE specifically?
[01:24] <CodeMouse92> *Xubuntu
[01:24] <parsjot> I just liked it at first use...could make it look as I wanted simply
[01:24] <k1l_> parsjot: why not use redshift which is in the ubuntu repos?
[01:24] <parsjot> and I hve an old laptop and it was suppose to be lighter
[01:24] <thetruth_> whats a good text to speech program for dictation
[01:24] <parsjot> k1l_:  redshift didnt work the same for me....wouldnt let me adjust it for temp....
[01:24] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Fair enough. Yeah, go for a fresh install. One hint when you do: partition your hard drive yourself. 50GB for /, a swap space the same size as your RAM, and the rest for /home
[01:25] <parsjot> ok
[01:25] <CodeMouse92> That way, if the system borks again, you can reinstall the system (/) without destroying your files and program configs (/home)
[01:25] <Superuser> Hey just to know if I create a new user and I want not to allow it's login temporarily,  then what  to do for that.  I mean if there is an entry  as such in that shell file?
[01:25] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Do you have another way to get into IRC during the install?
[01:25] <CodeMouse92> (i.e. a smartphone)
[01:26] <parsjot> tablet....but not going to do it tonight
[01:26] <k1l_> parsjot: really? redshift -t 6500:6200    is easy to test
[01:26] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Yeah, just checking. Always good to have.
[01:26] <jim> thetruth_: make sure you know the temperature limits of your cpu, and can monitor the temp as you try to adjust... (but again, if you're not financially prepared to replace a destroyed cpu, you probably shouldn't push the cpu beyond its rated limits
[01:27] <CodeMouse92> thetruth_: +1 to jim. By the way, psensor is awesome for monitoring CPU temperature and issuing alerts.
[01:27] <parsjot> CodeMouse92: the big problem is I dont know why these things are happenig today...so I can't prevent them again if it was me inadvertantly doing something...but I didn't do anything overt other than select menu options
[01:27] <parsjot> the docky thing was a docky bug...but this stuff I dont know why they occur
[01:28] <jim> cpus will get hotter if you do cpu-intensive things... like if you do a lot of compiling
[01:28] <parsjot> imagine you selected a different theme in appearance settings and suddenly the other themes were gone
[01:28] <parsjot> its stuff like this
[01:28] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: Yeah, I've seen stuff *like* this before on rare occasion, but never could figure it out.
[01:29] <Tin_man> try a different flavor parsjot, maybe you got a bad iso, or reinstall your current version.
[01:29] <parsjot> I have 1mbps internet so even getting a new iso takes all night...bit of a pain
[01:29] <thetruth_> CodeMouse92, nice thank you!
[01:29] <CodeMouse92> parsjot, Tin_man: Ah, that's a possibility! Check the checksum on the iso first
[01:29] <thetruth_> im wanted a good monitoring program
[01:29] <parsjot> I actually did that
[01:29] <CodeMouse92> parsjot: And it matches? (If so, it's a good ISO
[01:30] <parsjot> as the first couple of live USBs I made were wonky....everything with the iso checked out and using dd command made a bottable USB fine
[01:30] <sujeet> I want to add multiple IPs not in a consecutive CIDR to eth0. It looks like you have to add extra stanzas in /etc/network/interfaces for virtual ifaces like eth0:0 eth0:1 etc. What is the point of this? Why can't I just add the extra IPs directly to eth0?
[01:30] <gabriel_> oi
[01:30] <gabriel_> Por favor me ajudem
[01:30] <parsjot> but unetbootin etc didnt work right
[01:30] <CodeMouse92> I've gotta head out for a bit. Good luck parsjot and TGVoid!
[01:30] <parsjot> so the iso is good
[01:30] <gabriel_> I need help
[01:30] <parsjot> thanks codemouse
[01:30] <thetruth_> whats a good tool for taking a screenshot and sharing it here?
[01:30] <Superuser> Do you know how to use do command to make an iso from did?
[01:30] <gabriel_> I need help pls
[01:31] <CodeMouse92> gabriel_: Don't ask to ask. Just post your question.
[01:31] <Superuser> *dd command
[01:31] <gabriel_> ok sorry
[01:31] <parsjot> Superuser: are you asking me?
[01:31] <gabriel_> code mouse  you help me ??
[01:31] <somsip> gabriel_: ask the channel - dont ask people directly
[01:31] <CodeMouse92> gabriel_: I don't know if I can or not. You haven't asked anything yet. Ask the channel. :)
[01:31] <gabriel_> i need help to disable tcp_timestamps
[01:31] <CodeMouse92> (And, anyway, I'm heading out)
[01:32] <Tin_man> well i've got a really slow internet also, but i've tried about every ubuntu out there, and some were hardware buggy, not the os's fault, just bad drivers,and such, but I found the one I enjoy, and it took a lot of trial and error..
[01:32] <somsip> gabriel_: in what context?
[01:32] <parsjot> Tin_man: which was that?
[01:32] <gabriel_> i am brazilian PT BRAZIL
[01:32] <Superuser> Parsjot ya
[01:32] <sujeet> This is what my interfaces looks like atm: http://pastebin.com/Pbq5Q2fY
[01:32] <somsip> gabriel_: what are you trying to do that needs tcp_timestamps to be disabled?
[01:32] <Tin_man> right now ubuntu, but i'm running linux mint kde 17.03 with a dual boot..
[01:32] <parsjot> Superuser: I just followed  guide for dd...and it worked well...but can't say I "understand" it exactly
[01:33] <Tin_man> right now i'm on windows..
[01:33] <gabriel_> YES
[01:33] <gabriel_> YES SOMSIP
[01:33] <parsjot> just did "sudo dd bs=4M if=/path of=/dev/sdb && sync" and it was good as gravy
[01:34] <reisio> dd takes input (if) and output (of)
[01:34] <gabriel_> Somsip ???
[01:34] <reisio> bs just makes it work faster if used right
[01:34] <reisio> and sync is an unfortunate thing we use for usb sticks
[01:34] <CodeMouse92> gabriel_: somsip needs to know *what* you are doing. :)
[01:34] <somsip> gabriel_: you need to answer my question.
[01:35] <k1l_> !pt | gabriel_
[01:36] <Superuser> Hey just to know if I create a new user and I want not to allow it's login temporarily,  then what  to do for that?
[01:36] <reisio> Superuser: don't run 'passwd' giving it a password
[01:36] <gabriel_> ok guys
[01:36] <gabriel_> sorry
[01:36] <somsip> Superuser: passwd -l
[01:36] <gabriel_> enter ubunt american
[01:37] <k1l_> set its shell to /bin/false
[01:37] <gabriel_> ]ok my game called League of Legends What I indicated desativasse the game caught because of the connection and do not know why I have que disable tcp FOR game run
[01:37] <Superuser> k1l ya that's what I needed to know
[01:37] <gabriel_> Ubunt br desabled
[01:38] <gabriel_> somsip pls help: ok my game called League of Legends What I indicated desativasse the game caught because of the connection and do not know why I have que disable tcp FOR game run
[01:38] <k1l_> gabriel_: "/join #ubuntu-br"
[01:38] <gabriel_> no man
[01:38] <gabriel_> ubuntu br
[01:38] <gabriel_> desable
[01:38] <Superuser> Means there can be different ways either not allocating a shell or not giving it a passws
[01:38] <somsip> gabriel_: http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2058453
[01:39] <gabriel_> I'm using google translator
[01:39] <gabriel_> man erro for linux
[01:39] <gabriel_> :(
[01:40] <gabriel_> Thanks
[01:40] <Superuser> By the way,  it would be troubling if you don't set a passwd and create a user with useradd .
[01:40] <gabriel_> somsip
[01:40] <gabriel_> sorru
[01:41] <Superuser> I am fumbling to know what's that default passwd that useradd provides?
[01:42] <thetruth_> also how do I log on to hexchat with this same screen name on my desktop?
[01:42] <somsip> Superuser: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/108562/is-there-some-default-password-for-a-new-user-in-linux
[01:42] <somsip> !register | thetruth_
[01:43] <thetruth_> im registered here already but I want to switch over to my desktop with this same name
[01:43] <gabriel_> Fuck nobs
[01:43] <reisio> thetruth_: /nick thetruth_
[01:43] <somsip> thetruth_: join #freenode for registration/nick issues
[01:45] <jazzmyn> Hello
[01:46] <reisio> 'lo
[01:47] <thetruth_> gabriel_ you were an expert when you started? you just miraculously knew how to do everything?
[01:47] <Superuser> somsip : I think the best choose answer in that means there is certainly no password by default and you cannot login to that user from outside of root until you set one.  Is is so?
[01:48] <somsip> Superuser: yes
[01:48] <DeaDSouL> i'm logged as user1 ... how can i login as user2 from user1 ?
[01:49] <somsip> DeaDSouL: does user1 have sudo rights?
[01:49] <DeaDSouL> somsip: no
[01:49] <somsip> DeaDSouL: do you know user2's password?
[01:49] <DeaDSouL> somsip: yes
[01:51] <somsip> DeaDSouL: use "su {user}" check the options in case you want to do something else
[01:51] <Superuser> somsip : so still requires sudo priviledges
[01:52] <Superuser> *sy
[01:52] <Superuser> *su
[01:52] <DeaDSouL> Superuser: no, su user2 ;)
[01:52] <somsip> Superuser: does su require superuser or does it ask for password? man page suggests password but I've never run from a non-sudo account so happy to be corrected
[01:52] <DeaDSouL> right :)
[01:53] <reisio> it asks for password
[01:53] <reisio> root's password
[01:53] <reisio> so yes, it requires "superuser" access
[01:53] <somsip> reisio: ah - fair enough.
[01:53] <reisio> unless of course you're using it to switch to another user that isn't root
[01:53] <reisio> then it'll ask for that user's password
[01:53] <somsip> reisio: which is what he wants, so it is usable maybe. DeaDSouL  - did it work?
[01:56] <DeaDSouL> reisio: no, it will ask you for the user you want to login as's password
[01:57] <DeaDSouL> yes, exactly..
[01:57] <reisio> no comment :p
[01:59] <Superuser> Is /etc/useradd conf
[01:59] <reisio> a file? Quite possibly
[02:01] <Superuser> * /etc/useradd.conf the file that is used by default to allocate shell and that provides all configurations to new user while using useradd?
[02:02] <Superuser> I meant /etc/default/useradd
[02:04] <thetruth_> how does this benchmark look for having 2 - radeon r9390x crossfire config. this is my first build and I don't know how fast its suppose to be.... http://imgur.com/DwztY4T
[02:04] <reisio> Superuser: it's probably useradd's main config file, yes
[02:04] <reisio> thetruth_: don't cross post
[02:04] <somsip> thetruth_: don't crosspost offtopic questions either
[02:05] <thetruth_> sorry this is my first time on irc
[02:05] <Superuser> Hey found something like a bug,  just open that file and watch that a default path /home is
[02:06] <thetruth_> whats wrong with getting different opinions tho?
[02:06] <Superuser> Given but there is no home did created for new user
[02:06] <Superuser> Using useradd
[02:06] <HackerII> thetruth_ ubuntu-offtopic is a good place for opinions
[02:07] <thetruth_> so what is this for then?
[02:07] <HackerII> support
[02:07] <Superuser> Can anyone justufy
[02:07] <thetruth_> i mean I need help with my gpu's I dont think they are performing. I just built the rig
[02:07] <Superuser> *justify
[02:07] <thetruth_> its my first build also
[02:08] <HackerII> thetruth_ post your problem in one line to the room, someone will get to you.
[02:08] <thetruth_> HackerII, ok got it
[02:10] <thetruth_> so I just built my first rig, I have dual r9-390x and I just ran a benchmark and I want to know if they are performing to par for having 2 of them? here is the benchmark http://imgur.com/DwztY4T
[02:11] <parsjot> anyone know where I can get the Xubuntu 16.04 default wallpapers?
[02:11] <parsjot> installing "xubuntu-wallpapers" doesn't do it
[02:12] <parsjot> and I can't even find some of them with a google image search to try and do it manually
[02:18] <Bashing-om> parsjot: Don't know if this helps: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/desktop-base/filelist ; but maybe ??
[02:19] <uschxc> is it possible to use ~/.config/autostart/blah.desktop with a command that has an "=" in it already?  AE_SINK=alsa kodi ?
[02:20] <Superuser> Who manages the webchat.freenode.net irc.  The recaptcha verification feels more like an interview challenge to judge IQI.
[02:20] <reisio> uschxc: sure it's not working? Try quotes if not
[02:20] <Superuser> *IQ
[02:20] <parsjot> Bashing-om: thanks but that seems to be older and debian stuff
[02:21] <reisio> Superuser: there aren't a lot of captchas to choose from
[02:21] <uschxc> yes, kodi not launching at login.  if I run the command from a command prompt, it works.
[02:21] <uschxc> I've tried ' and " quotes
[02:21] <parsjot> somehow I deleted all of the default backgrounds....all I did was make a photo I had the background...then went to swtich it bacl...but the defaults were missing
[02:21] <parsjot> no idea how it happend and I can't seem to find a package to reinstall them
[02:21] <uschxc> if I take out the AE_SINK=Alsa part, kodi launches (but sound won't work)
[02:22] <reisio> uschxc: make a shell script then
[02:22] <reisio> call the script from the .desktop
[02:22] <reisio> or export AE_SINK in ~/.bashrc, etc.
[02:22] <uschxc> yeah that was my next option, just curious if I was missing somehting
[02:22] <reisio> I try not to spend too much time on freedesktop nonsense :p
[02:23] <uschxc> I'm way too casual a linux user to have a horse in any of the races
[02:23] <uschxc> path of least resistance basically for me
[02:23] <reisio> which is a shell script, IMO :p
[02:24] <linux> Which is the history file for root ?
[02:24] <uschxc> launched via freedesktop nonsense, right?
[02:24] <linux> Like there is bash_history for users
[02:24] <linux> in /home
[02:27] <parsjot> this is one of the defaults but I cant find it "clean" anywhere http://www.muylinux.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/xubuntu1604lts.jpg
[02:27] <parsjot> surely there has to be a way to reinstall the defaul backgrounds?
[02:28] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: Just to let you know, quick scan is at 52%
[02:29] <tikun> parsjot, did you try xubuntu-wallpapers or xubuntu-community-wallpapers?
[02:29] <parsjot> yep
[02:29] <parsjot> its not them
[02:30] <parsjot> i am at a loss for how they disappeared
[02:30] <tikun> hmm
[02:30] <parsjot> i took a photo....set is as desktop...then wanted to swtich bad to the defaults but they had all disapeared
[02:30] <parsjot> literally all I did was set a photo....then try to revert...I didn't move or remove anything
[02:33] <Guest45338> Hi everyone, was wondering if anyone can help me to configure my touch screen
[02:36] <linux> How to activate nfs service ?
[02:37] <Annaka> Hi!
[02:37] <linux> Anyone please?
[02:39] <Annaka> I have a little problem: KVM can't work with the NTFS, but users solved this problem: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/106909/can-and-how-kvm-use-ntfs-storage and http://askubuntu.com/questions/113733/how-do-i-correctly-mount-a-ntfs-partition-in-etc-fstab
[02:39] <Guest45338> was wondering if anyone can help me to configure my touch screen
[02:40] <Annaka> But how to do it by automaticaly? For example, I have a flash-drive with the .ISO live-images and want to run it into KVM?
[02:41] <Annaka> All sleep now
[02:42] <linux> Annaka entry in fstab is required to automatically mount the fs at boot time
[02:44] <Annaka> linux, I know...
[02:44] <linux> What do you want ?
[02:44] <linux>  Annaka
[02:44] <Annaka> But what to do for automount flashdrivers for running in KVM
[02:45] <Annaka> I want run ISO from the flash into KVM
[02:45] <Annaka> But http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/106909/can-and-how-kvm-use-ntfs-storage
[02:45] <Annaka> Just add 'permissions' to the mount command, and everything works.
[02:48] <Annaka> linux, you not know? :(
[02:53] <linux> sorry dont precisely know the options available there in KVM?
[02:53] <linux> Annaka
[02:53] <linux> I use VirtualBox for virtualization of RHEL
[02:56] <drama> https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/06/27/177244/net-core-10-released-now-officially-supported-by-red-hat
[02:57] <drama> sorry wrong window
[02:57] <reisio> can't imagine a window that would care about that :p
[02:57] <linux> reisio : Which is the file for root history?
[02:58] <reisio> root's ~/.bash_history
[02:58] <Annaka> Any can help please?
[02:58] <reisio> varies by distro, probably /root/.bash_history
[02:59] <reisio> Annaka: ...with?
[02:59] <Annaka> I have a little problem: KVM can't work with the NTFS, but users solved this problem: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/106909/can-and-how-kvm-use-ntfs-storage and http://askubuntu.com/questions/113733/how-do-i-correctly-mount-a-ntfs-partition-in-etc-fstab
[02:59] <Annaka> But how to do it by automaticaly? For example, I have a flash-drive with the .ISO live-images and want to run it into KVM?
[02:59] <reisio> linux: or you might want sudo's log (/var/log/auth.log ?)
[02:59] <Annaka> I just do not understand anything :(
[03:00] <reisio> Annaka: you want to boot a live OS via kvm?
[03:00] <Annaka> reisio, I want run lmages in KVM yes
[03:01] <linux> Command to see hidden files (ls doesn't shows up !) ?
[03:02] <Jordan_U> Annaka: What happens if you run simply "kvm -cdrom /path/to/iso -m 1g"?
[03:02] <dax> linux: ls -a
[03:04] <kasun> hii
[03:04] <Annaka> Parameter 'size' expects a size You may use k, M, G or T suffixes for kilobytes, megabytes, gigabytes and terabytes.
[03:05] <Annaka> G work
[03:05] <Jordan_U> Annaka: Sorry, make that a capital G.
[03:05] <Annaka> Its runned
[03:05] <Annaka> But I use Virt-manager
[03:06] <Jordan_U> Annaka: I don't have a lot of experience with virt-manager so I can't help there.
[03:07] <root> hello
[03:07] <reisio> Guest47906: /nick helloperson
[03:07] <Jordan_U> !rootirc | Guest47906
[03:07] <Annaka> Jordan_U this window  does not fit into the screen
[03:07] <Annaka> Jordan_U, this window does not fit into the screen
[03:10] <Annaka> I mean screen on guest is large
[03:10] <linux> Ca you solve this : "change the home directory of user ‘sneak’ to /tmp/distro with preserving the existing file in user’s old home directory."
[03:11] <linux> *Can anyone
[03:13] <Annaka> Jordan_U, https://postimg.org/image/47zz5k9sx/
[03:13] <linux> reisio : Can you solve this : "change the home directory of user ‘sneak’ to /tmp/distro with preserving the existing file in user’s old home directory."?
[03:15] <Annaka> Any help pleaes screen of the KVM is large
[03:16] <linux> What the hell is that ?
[03:16] <dax> linux: spam
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> Spam.
[03:17] <dax> tonyyarusso: those notices aren't getting through to non-ops, right?
[03:17] <DalekSec> Right.
[03:18] <dax> k good. gonna let sigyn play a bit then
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> dax: Not post mode change.
[03:18] <dax> lmk if you want me to go +r instead
[03:21] <dax> linux: because webchat isn't the only way to connect to IRC
[03:21] <linux> :-P I forgot
[03:22] <hawke> Looking for a TelNet BBS to run under Mint. Any suggestions?
[03:22] <dax> ask the mint folks, we only support ubuntu and official derivatives of it here
[03:23] <hawke> ok, looking for a TelNet BBS to run under Ubuntu. Any suggestions? :)
[03:23] <dax> is the wrong response.
[03:23] <dax> please just use your distro's support channel.
[03:23] <linux> haha..
[03:24] <linux> @dax Do you know how to switch the location of a directory keeping its current contents ?
[03:24] <dax> linux: mv /old/location/here /new/location/here
[03:28] <linux> @dax If I want a new user to get ksh by default then how to do?
[03:29] <dax> linux: one in particular, or all new users?
[03:29] <linux> one in particular
[03:30] <dax> assuming ksh is already installed, sudo chsh -s /path/to/ksh usernamehere
[03:30] <Saulo> Back - off (tempo: 4h 26m e 19s)
[03:30] <Saulo> sorry.
[03:30] <Saulo> ;/
[03:30] <will__> i have been trying to connect to wifi which only connects to mac . How they are doing it so that it is only visible to mac ??
[03:31] <linux> dax : Can it be configured with /etc/default/useradd for new user?
[03:32] <linux> using useradd command to create user
[03:32] <Ben64> man useradd
[03:32] <Guest82873> I have no terminals when I ctrl + alt + F(1-6)
[03:33] <linux> no I asked if it can be configured with file ?
[03:33] <Ben64> have you looked in that file
[03:33] <linux> ya
[03:34] <Ben64> and do you see anything about shell in there
[03:34] <linux> ya
[03:34] <drama> Can I has terminals
[03:34] <Ben64> linux: so.... do you understand what it says there
[03:35] <linux> ya
[03:35] <Ben64> cool
[03:36] <linux> I think it can be
[03:37] <linux> I doubted because notice one thing there, it says /home directory for HOME but none is created when new user is added !
[03:38] <linux> Ben64 : I doubted because notice one thing there, it says /home directory for HOME but none is created when new user is added !
[03:38] <Ben64> that line begins with a #, meaning it is commented out (ignored)
[03:39] <Guest82873> I have no terminals when I ctrl + alt + F(1-6)
[03:39] <linux> Ben64 : Shell one ?
[03:39] <Ben64> the home one
[03:40] <linux> But read the above comment that says "same as adduser ..." ..
[03:41] <linux> I think it's just manual config .If I remove # then would it work ?
[03:41] <Ben64> yeah, but you should be using adduser
[03:41] <linux> for high level ?
[03:42] <Ben64> it adds a user more properly
[03:44] <linux> Well,I am gonna work on a project so cannot avoid it.
[03:47] <drama> Guest82873, CTL+ALT+T first then ctl+alt+F1.. ctl+alt_f7 to get back again
[03:48] <linux> Can anybody help to configure network on cli ?
[03:49] <Guest82873> i have no problem navigating them, however, there is no login prompt like there usually is
[03:49] <linux> I just want to know if /etc/networks is that file ?
[03:49] <linux> ??
[03:49] <SchrodingersScat> /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:49] <drama> Guest82873, hmmm... dunno... 16.04 ?
[03:50] <linux> Then what /etc/networks is basically for ?
[03:52] <drama> linux, symbolic names for networks, see networks(5) for more information ... man networks
[03:52] <drama> linux, /etc/network/interfaces if you don't have network-manager installed
[03:53] <Guest82873> yes
[03:53] <linux> Well my requirement states that I want to setup an ip-addr, broadcast etc.
[03:53] <Guest82873> couple of errors that used to go away eventually.
[03:53] <SchrodingersScat> !homework
[03:53] <Guest82873> they'd be replaced by the login prompt that is currently missing.
[03:54] <Guest82873> drama, also, KDE
[03:54] <drama> wow
[03:58] <linux_> Kindly state the format to configure /etc/network/interfaces file ??
[04:00] <will__> i have been trying to connect to wifi which only connects to mac . How they are doing it so that it is only visible to mac ??
[04:03] <linux_> Anyone alive ?
[04:03] <linux_> Help
[04:03] <tgm4883> linux_: this information is easily obtainable via google or man pages. While we normally would help and wouldn't point people to these places, I'm not one for helping someone with their homework
[04:12] <cool> hey all, my mouse cursor keeps disappearing when I wake my laptop up from sleep, does anyone know what might be causing this?
[04:14] <linux_> cool try switching between accounts on your system or restart service of mouse driver
[04:15] <cool> hm, I mean that's kind of a kludge dont you think? :P
[04:15] <linux_> issues with the compatibilty or support I think !
[04:23] <cool> linux_ from my limited googling it seems to be an issue with Intel drivers and Ubuntu 16
[04:28] <gecko111> Hi there
[04:42] <Xcraft> anyone?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Xcraft: re-ask your issue once in a while
[04:46] <Xcraft> a quick one,  I'm quite new to ubuntu, and to day I received a notification regarding OS update and I think it's the kernel (linux-generic, etc) but only linux-libc-dev will be updated. Do I need/have to update my kernel whenever possible? Sorry I know this has been asked before.
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Xcraft: its recommended to always stay up to date
[04:47] <Xcraft> thanks! I will update then!
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Xcraft: for security reasons and new package versions
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> !usn | Xcraft here is why:
[04:49] <Xcraft> thanks man, appreciate it
[04:51] <bigdissaved> Hey
[04:55] <bigdissaved> does anyone have a free min? my wireless card module is not working.... in dmesg, I am getting 8812au: disagrees about version of symbol module_layout
[04:55] <kareeoleez> I am seeing /dev/root       1.8G  1.7G  7.1M 100% / in my SD 2GB but I can't find where the space goes. Any ideas ? I've tried with ncdu and other commands but they simply show sizes up to 500MB
[04:56] <bigdissaved> I have the latest git checkout of the drivers, dkms is rebuilding on kernel updates,
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> kareeoleez: try ctrl + h to see hidden folders perhaps
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> bigdissaved: wich ubuntu version? system up to date?
[05:12] <bigdissaved> fully up to date.. I have a console open
[05:12] <bigdissaved> root@Garage:/usr/src/8812au-4.4.0# dkms status
[05:12] <bigdissaved> 8812au, 4.4.0, 4.4.0-24-generic, x86_64: installed
[05:12] <bigdissaved> 8812au, 4.4.0, 4.4.0-28-generic, x86_64: installed
[05:12] <bigdissaved> root@Garage:/usr/src/8812au-4.4.0#
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> bigdissaved: ubuntu version?
[05:14] <bigdissaved> latest tsl
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> bigdissaved: are you using ubuntu's drivers or latest git ones?
[05:14] <TreeTree> Hi. I formatted my USB and now it's not being mounted properly, it is detected in GParted but I can't seem to put files on it or use UNetbootin on it.
[05:14] <TreeTree> Help would be appreciated.
[05:15] <bigdissaved> letest git, not sure where the ubuntu ones are
[05:15] <bigdissaved> 16.04 LTS
[05:15] <bigdissaved> latest
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> bigdissaved: try ubuntu's wifi drivers first
[05:16] <bigdissaved> ok, I am looking for them, but not sure where to find them
[05:17] <TreeTree> I am using Ubuntu 16.04. I am trying to use Unetbootin on a USB Device. It is not being mounted properly, and is detectable in GParted but I can't add or remove files and I can't use it with Unetbootin. How do I fix it so it mounts properly?
[05:19] <Ben64> TreeTree: format it to an appropriate filesystem?
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> bigdissaved: anything show up your additional drivers section?
[05:20] <TreeTree> Ben64: I figured it out, it had no partitions on it and I made one. Thanks
[05:20] <bigdissaved> just intel microcode..
[05:47] <GladiaTeur> Hi my friends i have missed curl.so php extension how i can resolve this ?
[05:47] <GladiaTeur> OS Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[05:48] <hateball> GladiaTeur: maybe: apt-get install php-curl
[05:49] <GladiaTeur> thanks a lot
[06:18] <iMadper> Hi all, Is there a method to diagnostics upstart booting time? My vivid laptop boots slowly. And I want to check which job is the culprit.
[06:19] <Ben64> 15.04 is End Of Life, therefore no longer supported
[06:22] <iMadper> Ben64: Yeah I know it. But I still need it for my phone...
[06:22] <Ben64> unlikely
[06:22] <diskin> iMadper, look for bootchart
[06:47] <apb1963> This document has XFA forms, which are currently unsupported.  ubuntu 14.04, Okular Version 0.20.2 Using KDE Development Platform 4.14.2
[06:58] <mcg> asd
[06:58] <mcg> asdasd
[06:58] <Myrtti> yes?
[06:59] <mcg> asdasd
[06:59] <mcg> asdasdasd
[07:00] <soee_> can i remove current kernel and install at the same time newest version ?
[07:01] <Ben64> soee_: yes, but if it doesn't work you're kind of in a pickle
[07:01] <soee_> Ben64: what are the chances it will fail ?
[07:01] <thekrynn_> was curious if anyone knew why the ubuntu clock likes to drift
[07:01] <Ben64> soee_: not possible to predict
[07:23] <aavrug> Hello everyone
[07:23] <aavrug> I have a Makefile, but when trying to run that file using make Makefile getting error
[07:24] <aavrug> make: Nothing to be done for `Makefile'.
[07:25] <Ben64> it's just "make" usually
[07:25] <aavrug> and when trying to run only make getting error make: *** No targets.  Stop.
[07:25] <aavrug> Ben64, ^^
[07:25] <Ben64> contact the developer
[07:27] <aavrug> Ben64, this is the Makefile https://github.com/quintype/docker-base/blob/master/Makefile
[07:30] <apb1963> what are people using to read PDF files now?
[07:30] <tom2> Any specialist for kern.log and syslog in here ?
[07:30] <Ben64> tom2: best to ask the actual question
[07:31] <tom2> Since switching to radeon driver I see the following filling up my logs:
[07:31] <Lembert> Hallo, ich benötige eine zweite squid Instanz. dazu hab ich nur diese "Anleitung" gefunden https://xrotwang.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/running-multiple-squid-instances-on-ubuntu/ Die ist aber schon von 2008. Ist das immer noch aktuell?
[07:31] <Lembert> bzw kann ich die verwenden damit das funktioniert?
[07:31] <tom2> Jun 28 09:31:30 ga-78 kernel: [ 6990.411185] [drm:radeon_atombios_connected_scratch_regs], DFP1 connected
[07:31] <tom2> Jun 28 09:31:30 ga-78 kernel: [ 6990.411200] [drm:output_poll_execute], [CONNECTOR:15:HDMI-A-1] status updated from 1 to 1
[07:32] <ducasse> !de | Lembert
[07:32] <tom2> Every 10 seconds an entry in kern.log
[07:35] <tom2> That mustn't be  ?
[08:08] <heiner> hm
[08:18] <escimo> "status updated from 1 to 1" ? Do you use an cable adapter per chance?
[08:19] <tumtoes> How would I use winetrix to run a steam game that is not available on linux?
[08:19] <somsip> !winehq | tumtoes
[08:20] <tumtoes> Am I in wine chat now?
[08:20] <lyze> tumtoes, ubuntu support channel
[08:20] <alive876_> hi, one of my drives is almost 100% consumed but i can find the reason
[08:21] <selckin> sudo du -csh /* | sort -h
[08:23] <shafox> I have a mounted disk which now shows 1000 as the user group and user also. How do I copy the content to usb ?
[08:25] <YankDownUnder> shafox, Not quite sure what you're asking - are you asking HOW to copy the stuff to a USB, or are you asking how to copy the stuff to the USB and still retain the permissions?
[08:28] <tumtoes> Randomly my ubuntu OS completly freezes. I can't use anything. My mouse wont move, keys wont work, so I am forced to do a hard shutdown. I would reinstall it but I am not sure if that will fix. So I want to know what I can do before doing reinstall
[08:28] <YankDownUnder> tumtoes, How much RAM do you have?
[08:29] <tumtoes> 4 gigs
[08:29] <tumtoes> it's only a around $200 laptop. Just using ubuntu before I make the switch on my main PC
[08:29] <YankDownUnder> tumtoes, I've upgrade the girlfriend's machine because of basically the same - with 16.04...works a charm with 8gb...but that's me...not your situation...
[08:30] <YankDownUnder> tumtoes, Have you tried using the other desktops - like LxDE or XFce or Cinnamon or Openbox?
[08:30] <geirha> By my experience, those kind of freezes are caused by the graphics card
[08:31] <tumtoes> Are those made by ubuntu? Or just less resource heavy linux OS's like ubuntu
[08:32] <YankDownUnder> tumtoes, Those are desktop environments that can happily run on top of Ubuntu - simply put.
[08:32] <YankDownUnder> tumtoes, With the installation you already have, you can install a completely different desktop environment - and have several to experiment with...
[08:33] <tumtoes> Links?
[08:33] <ooze_> hello
[08:33] <tumtoes> Is it hard to do?
[08:33] <ooze_> can anyone help me with ssh
[08:34] <YankDownUnder> tumtoes, No...it's easier than you could imagine.
[08:34] <ooze_> im running on ubuntu 11.04
[08:35] <YankDownUnder> tumtoes, Here's a simple example - open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop => let the system download and install the entire XFce desktop - you might have to reboot - depending on what you've got on your system - however, when you get to the login screen, you can now choose to have "XFce" or "Unity" as your desktop environment.
[08:36] <ooze_> Reading package lists... Error! E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.mate.desktop.org_repo_ubuntu_dists_VERSION_main_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[08:37] <ooze_> patulong mag set up ng ssh
[08:37] <ooze_> salamat!
[08:37]  * ooze_ rusty
[08:38] <YankDownUnder> tumtoes, Here's the link - and I made a mistake - it's "sudo apt-get install xubuntu desktop" : https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/alternative
[08:38] <somsip> !tagalog | ooze_
[08:38] <YankDownUnder> ooze_, 11.04?
[08:39] <tumtoes> thx
[08:39] <ooze_> ubuntu 11.04 waaay back 2010
[08:39] <ooze_> thats all i get left.
[08:39] <ooze_> installer i mean
[08:39] <YankDownUnder> ooze_, Er...2011, bro...
[08:39] <Qommand0r> ancient
[08:39] <somsip> ooze_: it's very old and unsupported. But what is the problem in case it can be helped?
[08:40] <ooze_> my bad YankDownUnder. your right 2011
[08:40] <alive876_> hi, im trying to track down some large invisible files, when i do this : $ sudo du -csh /*    it tells me 2.4G    /home, but i cant find files that big
[08:40] <ooze_> somsip cant find thr right header
[08:41] <somsip> ooze_: more details needed
[08:41] <ooze_> somsip i need to download openssh
[08:41] <ooze_> for port 22
[08:41] <ooze_> so i can make this a remote
[08:42] <somsip> ooze_: you should install something up to date
[08:42] <YankDownUnder> alive876_, Here's something to quickly try - open a terminal, and type: sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt autoclean" => see if that clears up some drive space, hmm?
[08:42] <somsip> alive876_: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-find-the-largest-filesdirectories-on-a-linuxunixbsd-filesystem/
[08:43] <ooze_> somsip yup. i just tried to reinstall this after so many years.
[08:43] <ooze_> gives me headache :D
[08:43] <somsip> ooze_: dont waste your time. Get a supported release
[08:45] <ooze_> somsip yupp. ty
[08:45] <tumtoes> yankdownunder, said unable to locate package xubuntu, and desktop
[08:46] <ooze_> somsip how do i run teamviewer_11.0.57095_i386.deb
[08:46] <ooze_> do you know the commands?
[08:46] <ooze_> :D
[08:46] <YankDownUnder> tumtoes, "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" => that should be the EXACT wording...hmm?
[08:46] <ooze_> tar teamviewer_11.0.57095_i386.deb ?
[08:46] <somsip> ooze_: sudo dpkg -i {deb file}
[08:46] <ooze_> copy somsip
[08:46] <somsip> ooze_: but if this is for 11.04, dont bother.
[08:47] <ahmad> sa
[08:47] <ooze_> uh yeah it didnt work
[08:48] <YankDownUnder> ooze_, It would be exactly: dpkg -i teamviewer_11.0.57095_i386.deb
[08:53] <ooze_> copy
[08:53] <crt> the frothing sound of crackling ass
[08:54] <ooze_> still didnt work on 11.04
[08:54] <akik> ooze_: "sudo apt install ./teamviewer_11.0.57095_i386.deb" that will take care of the dependencies
[08:55] <Ben64> nothing is going to work on 11.04, install something supported
[08:55] <akik> oh..
[08:55] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | ooze_
[08:55] <Ben64> 11.04 lost support and security updates in october of 2012!
[08:55] <bazhang> get a supported version ooze_
[08:55] <mintux> i have some files in a directory with large size for download i need to convert them to one file so what is fast compression command that it made this file very fast ? i don't need to reduce size
[08:55] <Ben64> so pretty sure that means you got the big ssl bug
[08:56] <Ben64> mintux: tar
[08:57] <Triffid_Hunter> mintux: if you don't want to compress them, why use compression? you're after tar.
[08:59] <ooze_> thanks. yup i tried all commands. didnt work. im downloading ubuntu 16 now
[08:59] <ooze_> been years. my bad
[09:05] <ooze_> YankDownUnder copy dpkq
[09:05]  * ooze_ unpacking
[09:06] <grimel> Hi, all. Could anybody tell me, please, - can I somehow detect applications which are very rarely used or not used at all?
[09:14] <Allanitomwesh> hello
[09:14] <Allanitomwesh> is there a version of Ubuntu that comes with GNOME?
[09:14] <somsip> !flavors | Allanitomwesh
[09:15] <bazhang> Allanitomwesh, gnome-shell if thats what you mean ; unity is gnome3 as well
[09:16] <Allanitomwesh> ubuntu-GNOME sounds right
[09:16] <Allanitomwesh> has GNOME 3 right?
[09:18] <bazhang> Allanitomwesh, they all are, with the possible exception of flashback
[09:19] <Allanitomwesh> are there any drawbacks to not using Unity?
[09:19] <bazhang> Allanitomwesh, thats personal choice
[09:21] <Allanitomwesh> if there's no technical loss I guess I'll go with GNOME
[09:21] <Allanitomwesh> thanks
[09:22] <Soul_Sample> hey, can anyone recommend some good image tagging applications? I need something to add title, description and keywords metadata to pictures, i've been looking through the repositories, but everything looks sameish
[09:29] <Allanitomwesh> Soul_Sample: Shotwell?
[09:31] <YankDownUnder> ...Darktable is also a good on - very professional - awesome quality and interface - along with some really nice effects...
[09:33] <vooze> After upgrading to kernel 4.4.0-28 (from 24) I cant login, lightdm loads and after typing pw it just blinks and goes back. Also the solution looks like "nomodeset" What could cause this?
[09:33] <vooze> resolution *
[09:34] <Triffid_Hunter> vooze: your session manager is crashing
[09:34] <vooze> Triffid_Hunter: but 4.4.0-24 works just fine (i'm using that now)
[09:35] <ret2libc> i know it's a strange question here,but ... is it possible to install wayland and run unity on it?
[09:36] <ret2libc> wayland at the moment seems muuch more ready than unity8 on desktop (that unfortunately doesn't do (almost) anything :( )
[09:39] <Allanitomwesh> Wayland is nice
[09:47] <ret2libc> Allanitomwesh: yeah! I'd like to see also unity8 on mir but at the moment it's really just a POC on desktop :(
[09:47] <js3> hello there
[09:48] <js3> i'm facing a problem on login
[09:48] <js3> after i enter my credentials
[09:48] <bazhang> js3, all on one line please
[09:48] <js3> desktop isn't loading and i'm stuck with the initial login background
[09:49] <Soul_Sample> YankDownUnder: darktable is an overkill, I do stock images in blender/gimp and just need something to tag them with before uploading to multiple services. I'll give Shotwell a go, I completely forgot about that, thanks!
[09:50] <YankDownUnder> Soul_Sample, You're spot on about Darktable - however, I've had some clients go "apey" over it...personally, it's "glitz"...GIMP is my main go...
[09:51] <js3-2> sorry about that bazang ,
[09:51] <js3-2> i'm facing a problem with my ubuntu os on login after i enter my credentials desktop isn't loading and i'm stuck with the initial login background image
[09:52] <Soul_Sample> YankDownUnder: Yeah, I prefer GIMP as well because I rarely deal with photos. It was enough for one stock service, but now I'm uploading to multiple and need an easy way to tag photos so I don't have to do it manually on each site. A friend recommended Adobe Bridge, but no way
[09:52] <Soul_Sample> js3-2: does the guest login work?
[09:52] <js3-2> no
[09:52] <YankDownUnder> Soul_Sample, Hehehe...yeah...buy more crap from Adobe...nah...Shotwell is simple - and easy on resource...does the job.
[09:53] <bazhang> what version of ubuntu js3-2
[09:53] <js3-2> 16.04
[09:53] <Soul_Sample> YankDownUnder: yeah, I'll see how it goes with that, I prefer donating to inkscape and gimp instead of buying crap I don't need
[09:53] <Soul_Sample> js3-2: did it come out of the blue, or did you do something before it broke?
[09:55] <js3-2> Soul_Sample: i don't think i did something that made it broke i wasn't installing or updating anything
[09:57] <girish> hello there
[09:57] <Soul_Sample> js3-2: You should try pressing ctrl-alt-f1 and try to log in from there, perhaps it pops out some errors to give us more info. also, maybe you installed some window manager and accidentally switched session to it so unity doesn't load? my third guess is your gpu drivers
[09:58] <girish> how do i make a make file from .c file?
[10:00] <girish> anbody can answere my question?
[10:00] <count> I'm not even sure I understand it correctly.
[10:00] <count> what is the problem you are trying to solve?
[10:02] <garshol> the .c is already a file girish. Do you want to compile it to a program?
[10:02] <garshol> the .c is already a file girish. Do you want to compile it to a program?
[10:02] <rory> girish: a c file is usually source code in C, which needs a C compiler. What are you trying to do overall, where did you get the file?
[10:03] <nomic> .configure    make
[10:03] <nomic> you type .configure .. to get the make file girish
[10:03] <count> girish: if you have "foobar.c" and say "make foobar" it'll create an executable called "foobar" with default settings. "make foobar.o" will give you an object file.
[10:03] <Arcaire> Is there a known issue where Ubuntu 16.04 installs are totally broken on new CPUs or GPUs?
[10:03] <Arcaire> I mean the installer barely works even.
[10:03] <count> girish: .. but I gather you'll want to learn a lot more basics and should get an idea what the hell you are doing ;)
[10:03] <Arcaire> But the actual install is totally broken.
[10:04] <count> girish: like I said: what is the problem you are trying to solve?
[10:04] <js3-2> i already tried to login from ctrl+alt+f1, no errors or warnings showed , and what should i check to make sure if it's a gpu driver issue
[10:04] <rory> count: that's only true if there's a makefile already there
[10:04] <nomic> ./configure     then make
[10:04] <girish> actually i have to modify a option.c source code to detect the LTE modem but the linux system(ubuntu 15.10, 3.19.0-15-generic) that i am using have no option.c file so i i download it and modify it as per requirement but now i have only option.c file so my question is how do i make it kernel object means need a make file.
[10:04] <nomic> "The configure script is responsible for getting ready to build the software on your specific system. It makes sure all of the dependencies for the rest of the build and install process are available, and finds out whatever it needs to know to use those dependencies."
[10:04] <rory> >impatient for people to asnwer his question after 30 seconds   > disappears when asked follow-up questions
[10:05] <nomic> "Once configure has done its job, we can invoke make to build the software. This runs a series of tasks defined in a Makefile to build the finished program from its source code."
[10:05] <nomic> "Now that the software is built and ready to run, the files can be copied to their final destinations. The make install command will copy the built program, and its libraries and documentation, to the correct locations."  https://robots.thoughtbot.com/the-magic-behind-configure-make-make-install
[10:05] <ducasse> girish: are you trying to modify something in the kernel?
[10:05] <garshol> seems like it ducasse..
[10:06] <count> rory: nope, make creates a synthetic one internally if not
[10:06] <girish> yes but to modify the source code need a option.c file but in kernel there is option.ko file instead of option.c
[10:07] <Triffid_Hunter> girish: you need kernel source
[10:07] <count> girish: yeah, you'll need way more than what you think you need, and you need to build all this in kernel code context. find better instructions.
[10:07] <Triffid_Hunter> girish: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel perhaps
[10:08] <count> girish: ... what Triffid_Hunter said, but maybe more specific to your context :) the instructions you found seem to be for advanced users.
[10:09] <apb1963> what should I use to read PDF files?
[10:09] <ducasse> apb1963: evince?
[10:09] <bazhang> apb1963, document viewer
[10:09] <Triffid_Hunter> apb1963: I like okular, there's plenty of pdf readers around though
[10:10] <count> apb1963: mupdf is the sanest, safest and fastes alternative I personally know, although maybe not the most comfortable one.
[10:10] <apb1963> Triffid_Hunter: that's the one I'm using.  It doesnt work anymore
[10:10] <js3-2> Soul_Sample: i already tried to login from ctrl+alt+f1, no errors or warnings showed , and what should i check to make sure if it's a gpu driver issue
[10:11] <ducasse> js3-2: check the x and lightdm logs.
[10:12] <apb1963> Triffid_Hunter: This document has XFA forms, which are currently unsupported
[10:12] <apb1963> ducasse: bazhang: count: do you know if it supports XFA forms?
[10:13] <bazhang> apb1963, no idea
[10:13] <Triffid_Hunter> apb1963: hm, my okular has forms support, not sure if that's XFA whatever that is..
[10:13] <Triffid_Hunter> apb1963: I mostly just use it to look at electronic component datasheets and robotics math papers
[10:13] <apb1963> Triffid_Hunter: yeah, those likely don't use XFA forms
[10:13] <LtWorf> Hello
[10:14] <apb1963> Triffid_Hunter: I guess it's late model Adobe or something
[10:14] <apb1963> not really sure
[10:14] <apb1963> all I know is, I need a way to read it
[10:14] <LtWorf> I have a problem with a package I'm creating. I install a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications, but it is shown in unity only after logout/login, anyone has any idea why? apt shows the "processing trigger" thing, so it should work
[10:14] <Triffid_Hunter> apb1963: ask whoever sent it to you to either send the software required to interact with it, or send the doc in another format
[10:15] <apb1963> Triffid_Hunter: You mean the US Gov't?
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[10:17] <Triffid_Hunter> apb1963: sure, why not
[10:19] <apb1963> While that may or may not work on an individual document basis, that's not really a permanent solution.
[10:19] <apb1963> "I'm sorry Uncle Sam, but Linux isn't really compatible with PDF documents... can you change the way you do business?"
[10:19] <Triffid_Hunter> apb1963: try feeding it into libreoffice, see what happens
[10:19] <apb1963> Triffid_Hunter: didn't work
[10:20] <apb1963> tried that earlier
[10:20] <Triffid_Hunter> apb1963: well if they're using proprietary formats that aren't widely supported, that's a problem on their side, no?
[10:20] <apb1963> Triffid_Hunter: PDF is proprietary?
[10:20] <Triffid_Hunter> apb1963: used to be, and apparently they're sending you docs with some weird stuff embedded in it
[10:21] <apb1963> The document you are trying to load requires Adobe Reader 8 or higher. You may not have the
[10:21] <apb1963> Adobe Reader installed or your viewing environment may not be properly configured to use
[10:21] <apb1963> Adobe Reader.
[10:21] <apb1963> For information on how to install Adobe Reader and configure your viewing environment please
[10:21] <apb1963> see http://www.adobe.com/go/pdf_forms_configure.
[10:22] <count> apb1963: no forms with mupdf
[10:22] <apb1963> So... the US Gov't is going to say... go install Adobe Reader... it's free.
[10:22] <apb1963> and I'm going to say .... but.... I can't.
[10:22] <apb1963> count: Thank you for checking
[10:22] <count> apb1963: well then you're hosed.
[10:22] <count> apb1963: Acrobat Reader is the only thing with all the proprietary features (and that sucks)
[10:23] <Triffid_Hunter> apb1963: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/10/adobe-reader-linux-download-pulled-website
[10:24] <bazhang> apb1963, what version of ubuntu are you on now
[10:26] <apb1963> bazhang: 14.04 LTS
[10:27] <bazhang> apb1963, there are numerous weblinks on how to install adobe reader for that
[10:28] <bazhang> apb1963, I can see at least six
[10:32] <jsmp> hi
[10:32] <jsmp> how to hide my ip?
[10:33] <Triffid_Hunter> jsmp: here? go to #freenode and ask for a hostmask
[10:34] <jsmp> thanks Triffid_Hunter
[10:40] <abhishek> what is the equivalent of pip freeze for apt?
[10:40] <tumtoes> So I installed xubuntu desktop. How would I delete the previous version of ubuntu that I switched from
[10:40] <tumtoes> ?
[10:40] <abhishek> 1. How to generate a file 2. How to install from it?
[10:40] <abhishek> tumtoes, not version a desktop environment?
[10:41] <tumtoes> Yeah I got xubuntu desktop environment
[10:41] <tumtoes> But now, I only want this
[10:42] <auronandace|work> !pinning | abhishek
[10:44] <abhishek> auronandace|work, I want the package list in a file that can directly installed on another system.
[10:44] <abhishek> auronandace|work, not sure if pinning does this.
[10:44] <tumtoes> I switched bc my Ubuntu OS would completely freeze at random moments (maybe not random idk) but, xubuntu that I just switched to, also just froze. So I was think that removing the other ubuntu will fix it idk
[10:45] <auronandace|work> abhishek: sorry i was guessing, this sounds more like what you want:
[10:45] <auronandace|work> !aptoncd | abhishek
[10:46] <auronandace|work> tumtoes: it sounds more like an underlying issue rather than specific to the desktop environment you are using
[10:47] <auronandace|work> tumtoes: the top 2 suspects i would look at is your RAM or your graphics drivers
[10:47] <tumtoes> Any tips on how to fix the OS completely freezing (no keys work, mouse doesn't move) before I reinstall? (bc idk if that will fix it)
[10:47] <abhishek> auronandace|work, thanks, went through. I wanted just the package names, something like pip freeze in python.
[10:47] <Ben64> tumtoes: what gpu do you have
[10:48] <tumtoes> I have 4 gigs, just on a laptop rn before I switch on main PC
[10:48] <tumtoes> It's like an intel gpu
[10:48] <tumtoes> I'll get the exact if you want
[10:48] <Ben64> tumtoes: install openssh-server, try seeing if you can log in while it's frozen
[10:48] <tumtoes> I know it is 64 bit procceser tho
[10:49] <tumtoes> what will openshh-server do?
[10:49] <tumtoes> ssh*
[10:49] <Ben64> run an ssh server
[10:50] <tumtoes> Explain the proccess more plz. Maybe private chat me
[10:51] <Arcaire> On a desktop now - Can anyone help me with a somewhat strange issue? I just installed Ubuntu on another disk and when I hit the login screen it just kicks me straight back after I log in. Can't CTRL+ALT+F* so I can't check any logs. This happened after installing the nvidia-current package, which is for my GPU (GTX 980).
[10:51] <Arcaire> This is a brand new fresh install as well. I have it running in a VM bound to the drive but even there I can't log in.
[10:51] <Ben64> !ssh | tumtoes
[10:52] <Ben64> Arcaire: did you install the guest additions?
[10:52] <Arcaire> Ben64: It worked in this VM before I installed nvidia-whatever.
[10:53] <verrlara> Hi anyoone familiar with insync the google drive program?
[10:53] <Arcaire> It's not really a VM, I'm just using it to kind of work on it while booted in to Windows.
[10:53] <Ben64> Arcaire: that doesn't really answer my question
[10:53] <Arcaire> It's actually a running installed OS on a second drive.
[10:53] <Arcaire> Short: No. Long: No, but it was fine without them until nvidia-current.
[10:53] <Triffid_Hunter> Arcaire: your session manager is crashing, probably a video driver / opengl mismatch since ubuntu's default thingy uses opengl afaik
[10:53] <Arcaire> Also I couldn't even if I wanted to now.
[10:53] <Napoelon> ducasse: hi m8
[10:53] <tumtoes> Ben64, So connect my main build to my laptop using ssh?
[10:54] <Arcaire> Triffid_Hunter: Any way to get to tty1?
[10:54] <ducasse> Napoelon: hi
[10:54] <Ben64> Arcaire: it probably can't see the gpu at all in the vm... what version of ubuntu did you install?
[10:54] <Arcaire> Latest.
[10:54] <Arcaire> 16.04LTS
[10:54] <Triffid_Hunter> Arcaire: the usual way, ctrl+alt+f1
[10:54] <Arcaire> Triffid_Hunter: this does not work
[10:54] <ams__> I'm trying to install erlang 18 on ubuntu. I do `apt-get install erlang-nox=1:18.2` to do this (the latest is 19). My problem is that all of the dependencies it installs are 19 (erlang-base for example). Is there a way to make all dependencies install the correct ver?
[10:54] <Ben64> Arcaire: nvidia-current doesn't support your card
[10:54] <Arcaire> wat.mov
[10:55] <Arcaire> did i read arch linux documentation by mistake
[10:55] <Napoelon> ducasse:  my install is booting fine, thnx for the advice
[10:55] <Triffid_Hunter> latest nvidia driver that supports the gpu in my laptop is 340.96 :/
[10:55] <ducasse> Napoelon: good, you're welcome :)
[10:55] <Arcaire> wait
[10:55] <Arcaire> jfmu
[10:56] <Arcaire> nvidia-current is an alias for nvidia-304?
[10:56] <Arcaire> That's... not what 'current' means.
[10:56] <auronandace|work> !info nvidia-current
[10:56] <Ben64> Arcaire: yeah appears so, you want nvidia-361
[10:57] <Arcaire> !info nvidia-361
[10:57] <Arcaire> Ben64: Will that auto-update to the theoretical 365?
[10:57] <Ben64> no?
[10:57] <Ben64> wait maybe
[10:57] <Arcaire> That's kind of what I assumed a package sensibly named 'current' would do.
[10:57] <Arcaire> Install, you know, the *current* drivers.
[10:58] <Arcaire> 304 is older than I am.
[10:58] <Napoelon> I have a problem with my U14 installation though.  Long story short, I needed to do an 'emergency' backup of my U14 install while upgrading to El Capitan on my Mac.  I decided to TAR up most of the directories.
[10:58] <Napoelon> What I'm trying to do is, using a new U14 install, extract all these folders into the new install.
[10:59] <ducasse> Napoelon: did you tar them up with all permissions and attributes?
[10:59] <hateball> Arcaire: While unsupported, this !PPA provides the latest drivers. 361 *should* work, but if they dont you can try 367 from it https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[10:59] <Napoelon> yes
[10:59] <Arcaire> Ben64: Is there any way I can boot into runlevel 3
[10:59] <Ben64> but still won't work on a vm unless configured properly
[10:59] <Arcaire> or whichever is single user console only mode
[10:59] <Arcaire> it doesn't need to work on a VM
[10:59] <Ben64> Arcaire: yes you can choose recovery mode
[10:59] <Arcaire> The VM is a gateway to the OS
[11:00] <Napoelon> I can boot this install, but I'm getting an error with X11.  It says its not configured properly and wants me to use low res graphics, but even that leaves a blank/black screen.
[11:00] <Arcaire> ehm
[11:00] <Arcaire> which option do i pick in recovery mode? :^)
[11:00] <tumtoes> Ben64, So connect my main build to my laptop using ssh?
[11:00] <Arcaire> root?
[11:00] <Ben64> yep
[11:00] <Xano> Software Update tells me there is an "Ubuntu base" update available (I am on 15.10), while APT tells me there are no available updates. While at this point this is merely confusing, Software update tells me /boot is too full and suggests using `apt-get clean` to throw out files that are no longer used. That command, however, does not seem to have any effect (no output, and /boot still as full as it was before). How do I remove my old kernels on /boot? dpkg sa
[11:00] <Xano> ys there are several with status `rc`, which, if I interpret it correctly, indicates their data can be removed entirely.
[11:00] <Napoelon> Using Recovery Mode, I can startup the network and go into my root shell.
[11:00] <Arcaire> was that yep at me? :x
[11:00] <Ben64> was at you and tumtoes
[11:00] <Arcaire> oh neat
[11:00] <Arcaire> efficiency
[11:00] <hateball> Xano: apt-get autoremove
[11:01] <Arcaire> *sigh* okay we have terminal
[11:01] <Napoelon> I have been trying to do APT-GET installs of all my packages etc. and a bunch of other commands to fix this.
[11:01] <Arcaire> er
[11:01] <Napoelon> But I've had no luck so far.
[11:01] <Arcaire> The filesystem is read only apparently
[11:01] <tumtoes> Ben64, would main pc need ubuntu installed?
[11:01] <Ben64> Arcaire: mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /
[11:01] <Ben64> tumtoes: no
[11:02] <ducasse> Napoelon: did you try reinstalling the x packages?
[11:04] <Napoelon> ducasse: yes.  ubuntu-desktop was one that I tried.
[11:05] <Arcaire> Ben64, hateball: Improving. Thanks!
[11:05] <Arcaire> Let's see how this goes.
[11:05] <ziro_axis> hello guys i need help
[11:06] <ducasse> Napoelon: i was thinking of the xserver-xorg-video packages, but other than that i would just back up data/config and reinstall.
[11:06] <hateball> !help | ziro_axis
[11:06] <ziro_axis> i have DELL R220 with E1220, and dual port ethernet cards
[11:07] <ziro_axis> when i install ubuntu 10 it did not recognize the ethernet card
[11:07] <ziro_axis> how to do
[11:07] <ikonia> ubuntu 10 is dead
[11:07] <ikonia> it's not supported
[11:07] <ziro_axis> what you mean
[11:07] <Xano> hateball, I was afraid autoremove would be the only option. I've got some Python packages needed by Pip installs and last time I ran autoremove they got removed as well, criplling those Pip installs. I'm still trying to work out how to prevent that from happening.
[11:08] <Napoelon> ducasse: the trouble I have is that I have a bunch of Uni related stuff installed and configured which I don't want to do through again as I don't have notes on (or remember) everything I did.
[11:08] <Arcaire> Ben64: Why does this keep trying to exit recovery mode?
[11:08] <Arcaire> Like I'm doing nothing waiting for the install to finish
[11:08] <Ben64> Arcaire: i can't see your screen ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[11:08] <Napoelon> ducasse: I can even SSH into it.
[11:08] <Xano> ziro_axis, Do you mean 15.10 perhaps?
[11:08] <Arcaire> and this keeps happening
[11:08] <Arcaire> you will in a moment
[11:08] <Arcaire> http://imgur.com/u30aieS
[11:08] <Arcaire> that happened without me interacting with it
[11:08] <ducasse> Napoelon: i see. where is that installed? if it's in /usr/local you can just move that across.
[11:08] <ziro_axis> xano, no i mean server v 10
[11:09] <ikonia> ziro_axis: ubuntu 10 is end of life and not supported, sorry
[11:09] <Ben64> Arcaire: you must be pressing something
[11:09] <Arcaire> I swear to you I'm not.
[11:09] <Arcaire> I'm not even connected to that VM.
[11:09] <Arcaire> it's just
[11:09] <Arcaire> view-only
[11:09] <ziro_axis> clear so i need to go back to 14.x
[11:10] <Ben64> ziro_axis: you went from 14.04 to 10.04?
[11:10] <hateball> Xano: it's not the *only* option, you can manually remove each kernel
[11:10] <Xano> ziro_axis, See http://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
[11:10] <hateball> Xano: autoremove just tends to be the nicest, for standard setups
[11:10] <Napoelon> ducasse: most of it is in /home, /opt, /usr/local
[11:10] <ziro_axis> can you advice me now to secure my server, please point me to some websites which clearly describe how to do
[11:10] <ikonia> ziro_axis: there is no "how to do it"
[11:10] <ikonia> ziro_axis: it depends on your host
[11:10] <Napoelon> ducasse: but I have the desktop configures with all my icons
[11:10] <ikonia> ziro_axis: basically you should be running 16.04 for the current stable LTS build
[11:11] <ikonia> ziro_axis: you then need to asses your server and put security steps in place that matter to your specific server
[11:11] <Xano> hateball, OK. I'll have to fix this Python mess in the end anyway, but for now can I just remove the vmlinuz-* and config-* files from /boot if they belong to kernel versions that are no longer in use?
[11:11] <hateball> Arcaire: Are you install nvidia binaries on a VM? Or what is this
[11:11] <ducasse> Napoelon: the desktop configuration lives in /home.
[11:11] <Napoelon> ducasse: I am running Meld to compare both installs at the moment.
[11:11] <ziro_axis> at least there are some basic mut to do ?
[11:11] <hateball> Xano: Yep
[11:11] <Arcaire> hateball: It's hard to explain.
[11:11] <ziro_axis> must*
[11:11] <Napoelon> ducasse: aren't parts of it in /etc?
[11:12] <Arcaire> It's an installed OS on my computer. On another drive. I mounted the drive instead of a vmdk into VirtualBox
[11:12] <Xano> hateball, Good, thanks! And can I indeed interpret the dpkg "rc" status as that I'm able to remove those kernel versions without breaking anything?
[11:12] <hateball> Xano: you can use apt-get remove linux-whatever, rather than just rm
[11:12] <ducasse> Napoelon: not user-specific desktop stuff, no, that should all be under /home.
[11:12] <Xano> hateball, apt-get remove says those kernels have already been removed, but dpkg says "rc" so IIRC that means they are no longer installed, but their config files are?
[11:12] <hateball> Xano: as long as you dont murder your working/running kernel, you'll be fine
[11:13] <hateball> Xano: yes, you can use apt-get purge to remove all traces
[11:14] <girish> ho do i know my ubuntu kernel directory?
[11:14] <girish> how*
[11:15] <Ben64> girish: /boot
[11:17] <Arcaire> Ben64: Alright so I rebooted into the OS proper and I log in but unity itself appears to be hidden. It's running (ps -ax) but there's no dock or anything.
[11:18] <Arcaire> I can right click to get a terminal up though.
[11:18] <Napoelon_> ducasse: What about installed programs?  Eg:  ROS, Webots, and other stuff like this?
[11:19] <Napoelon_> ducasse: TeXstudio, CodeBlocks ...
[11:19] <Napoelon_> ducasse: The aren't installed into home
[11:19] <hateball> Arcaire: no dock if you run "unity --replace &" ?
[11:20] <girish> how to find kernel directory?
[11:20] <Arcaire> Nah hateball. No change.
[11:20] <hateball> Hmm, dunno then. I do not run Unity myself
[11:21] <ducasse> Napoelon_: no, not repo packages. you can replicate installed packages with apt-clone, and their user config is under /home.
[11:23] <Napoelon_> ducasse: apt-clone?  I would need to downloaded packages in my cache for that wouldn't I?
[11:23] <girish> how to find kernel directory?
[11:23] <ducasse> Napoelon_: no, it just copies the state of the apt/dpkg database, repos, keys etc.
[11:24] <hateball> Arcaire: if you run "nvidia-settings -q CurrentMetaModes" does that look sane?
[11:24] <ducasse> Napoelon_: the packages themselves will be downloaded and installed on the recipient system.
[11:24] <Napoelon_> ducasse: Isn't it too late for that?  That's what I though I was doing when I TARred my install.
[11:24] <Arcaire> Error parsing query, hateball
[11:25] <Napoelon_> ducasse: I don't have the install to clone from.
[11:25] <Napoelon_> ducasse: I archived /var /usr /sbin /root /opt /lib64 /lib32 /lib /home /etc /boot /bin
[11:26] <hateball> Arcaire: hmmm, maybe it was wrong. I am on a non-nvidia machine atm so I may be off
[11:26] <ducasse> Napoelon_: well, /home should be fine, and the list of installed packages will be the same. you have likely missed some file attributes or something.
[11:27] <Napoelon_> ducasse: yes, like those that X11 needs ;)
[11:27] <ducasse> Napoelon_: i'm really not sure what could be wrong, you could try looking at the x log.
[11:28] <RicardoJ> Hi I am on 16.04 Server and I'd like to know how to use service nginx restart without sudo. Also it is not in a shell but runned by a deployment script. I cannot figure out how to do this in 16.04. In 12.04 this was quite easy. Are there some things deprecated
[11:28] <Napoelon_> ducasse: I have looked at it.  When I get the 'low res' notice, I am able to look at the log as well as errors.  There are no errors reported, but the log has warnings
[11:28] <ducasse> Napoelon_: but i honestly think the best approach would be to reinstall, as you don't kno0w what you have missed - you will never be sure the system is consistent.
[11:29] <Napoelon_> ducasse: glamoregl will not be loaded, stuff about font dirs not existing.  But the most interesting one 'fbGetGCPrivateKey' is an unresolved symbol.
[11:30] <ziro_axis> in the openstack installation, what is the server requirement i want to try installing it to my system
[11:30] <Napoelon_> ducasse: I'm still not at that stage of desperation.  lol
[11:30] <ducasse> Napoelon_: sounds like a driver thing, except the font path.
[11:30] <ziro_axis> i.e as LAMP or any other requirements
[11:31] <setti> hello
[11:32] <Napoelon_> ducasse: that's what I think too, but no matter what I've tried so far, I haven't been able to make any difference to the result.  Same outcome.  I thought reinstalling Ubuntu-Desktop would do the trick.  I've tried reconfiguring all the installed packages.
[11:32] <Napoelon_> ducasse: X on U14 is called lightdm right?
[11:33] <Napoelon_> ducasse: when running Unity.
[11:34] <akik> Napoelon_: the login manager is called lightdm. where did you get this U14 abbreviation? it's either 14.04 or 14.10
[11:34] <Napoelon_> akik:  U14 in my case refers to U14.04 original.
[11:34] <ducasse> Napoelon_: you can try 'sudo dpkg --verify' to see what files have changed from how they came packaged. x is called xorg-* and xserver-*, lightdm is just the display manager.
[11:35] <Napoelon_> ducasse: ahh, ok.
[11:37] <Arcaire> Ben64 hateball: If I run "dconf reset -f /org/compiz" and then "unity" it works.
[11:37] <Arcaire> But it messes up on reboot again. :/
[11:37] <timss> Hi. Working with a local apt repo. Added packages using 'reprepro', and built 'Packages', 'Packages.gz' with 'dpkg-scanpackages'. Now I'm getting 'E: Failed to fetch [repo]/../Packages Writing more data than expected ..'. What could be wrong?
[11:39] <Napoelon_> ducasse: I'll try that.  I'll also focus my web searches on xserver/xorg and manually installing/un-installing the proprietary drivers.
[11:39] <Napoelon_> ducasse: I haven't been beaten yet....
[11:39] <ducasse> Napoelon_: still, a reinstall would be a lot less hassle...
[11:40] <Napoelon_> ducasse: all the hardware is the same.  Only difference is the install is on a different drive (but I've updated the UUID)
[11:40] <ducasse> Napoelon_: even so.
[11:40] <Napoelon_> ducasse: I rather tinker with the OS side of things than the software I had installed.  There is a lot more info available about the OS, and the software didn't always install smoothly.
[11:41] <RicardoJ> Hello. I am on 16.04 Server and I'd like to know how to use 'service nginx restart' without sudo. Since the upgrade from 12.04, it doesn't work anymore.
[11:42] <Powerless> I am typing env | grep proxy and it says i am using proxy. how do i remove it?
[11:43] <hateball> Arcaire: yeah as I said, I dont run Unity so no idea there sorry
[11:44] <ducasse> Napoelon_: sure, if you have the time. i always just apt-clone and keep home + a few files from /etc, and reinstall as it's usually the fastest way to go.
[11:46] <Napoelon_> ducasse: ok, so running apt-clone is something you do from time to time?
[11:46] <Xano> hateball, Thanks for your help!
[11:47] <ducasse> Napoelon_: from cron, along with other backup jobs.
[11:47] <Napoelon_> ducasse: because I don't really know how to perform a full backup.  Deja-Dup never has worked for me.  I've tried DD, but I don't have a disk that is exactly the same size as what my install sits on.
[11:48] <Napoelon_> ducasse: and I can't access my Ubuntu partitions from OSX, even though I have Fuse installed there.
[11:48] <ducasse> Napoelon_: if you want a gui, backintime is quite nice. it uses rsync, so all files can be accessed directly.
[11:49] <Napoelon_> ducasse: How would it be used to restore?  Install basic OS then restore from the backup?
[11:49] <izu1> HI guys new to Ubuntu I made a post at Ubuntu forums with all the specs and detailed explanation if anyone can help with my problem i'd be grateful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2329130
[11:50] <ducasse> Napoelon_: yes, that would be the easiest.
[11:51] <Napoelon_> ducasse: So I wouldn't need to use apt-get for all my stuff?  What folders do you suggest I backup?  (The ones I listed above, or more or less?)
[11:52] <ducasse> Napoelon_: as i said, i just backup /etc, /home and some of /var, and use apt-clone to replicate the os and applications.
[11:53] <Anonymes> Hi
[11:54] <hicoleri> Recently my laptop started hanging up quite frequently along with the capslock indicator blinking, and I have to remove the battery and reinsert it to boot it up again. what do I do?
[11:55] <hicoleri> Is this a hardware problem?
[11:55] <Napoelon_> ducasse: right.  What's in /var?  I know logs are there, and other variable data (I use /var/www for my virtual hosts).  What else is there?
[11:56] <Napoelon_> ducasse: I haven't really dug through that folder structure to understand it's contents.
[11:56] <ducasse> Napoelon_: virtual machines and containers, if you use the default config for libvirt and lxc/lxd.
[11:57] <Napoelon_> ducasse: do they store stuff off /var or in sub-folder of /var?
[11:57] <ducasse> Napoelon_: subfolders, /var/lib/lxc and /var/lib/libvirt.
[11:58] <Napoelon_> ducasse: ok.  What about /var/local and /var/opt?
[11:59] <Napoelon_> ducasse: they are empty on mine.
[11:59] <ducasse> Napoelon_: no idea. probably intended for stuff that lives under /usr/local and /opt, but i've never looked into it.
[12:00] <Dad> Tell me how to configure telnet-server ?
[12:00] <tatertots> are you really sure you want to telnet server?.....security wise
[12:00] <Napoelon_> ducasse: ah ha.  Would you know where drivers are stored?
[12:01] <Dad> ya, for few tasks !
[12:01] <tatertots> hmm
[12:01] <ducasse> Napoelon_: those are typically kernel modules, so under /lib/modules.
[12:02] <Napoelon_> ducasse: ok.  I just found my nvidia drivers there :)
[12:02] <ducasse> Napoelon_: but kernel modules would get reinstalled, so there's no need to back them up.
[12:03] <Dad> I can't find telnet.socket service !!
[12:03] <tatertots> well dad you should just google it and let us know if you get stuck following the instructions..and also tell us what instructions you found to follow
[12:04] <ducasse> !google | tatertots
[12:04] <Napoelon_> ducasse: ic.  I'm looking in /lib to see if I can find the Wireless drivers.  It doesn't get a prominent position as a named folder like the nvidia driver does.
[12:05] <tatertots> don't tell ppl to google ubottu?...ok well when i post the links from a search results don't complain about the links
[12:05] <tatertots> deal?
[12:06] <ducasse> Napoelon_: those are typically under kernel/net/wireless, except if they are built by dkms.
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Heyas all
[12:07] <Napoelon_> ducasse: kernel?  Oh, under the kernel version.
[12:11] <Arcaire> Ben64, hateball: All working! I had to: Grab the 367 drivers from the ppa hateball mentioned, then rm -rf my ~/.config/compiz-1.
[12:11] <Arcaire> Thanks for your help troubleshooting.
[12:11] <Dad> Ohk cool I can deal with telnet-server .
[12:12] <Dad> Just one more thing for which google did not satisfied me and I had to come here , how to use SIP in ubuntu ?
[12:13] <Dad> I found sip-dev package. Can anybody just elaborate its usage ?
[12:18] <izu1> Can no one help with my problem. all of the details are here : http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=333
[12:19] <brunch875> Hello! I'm trying startx on a TTY but it gives me a black screen. The system does launch the graphical interface without issues on boot though :s
[12:19] <count> izu1: thaaat URL is not helpful :D
[12:21] <akik> brunch875: i have the same issue. are you using nvidia gfx?
[12:21] <brunch875> the propietary one, yes
[12:21] <akik> brunch875: can you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log when you get the black screen?
[12:22] <brunch875> apparently it wrote to log 1, not 0
[12:22] <akik> brunch875: i have some error for the nvidia module there
[12:22] <hateball> Arcaire: :)
[12:22] <akik> brunch875: did you stop lightdm/sddm before running startx ?
[12:22] <fat-marty> Hello. IRC noob here, please forgive faux-pas, if any.  Am considering purchase of Dell Inspiron 5000, but need to know if 14.04 supports the touch screen on that desktop?
[12:23] <brunch875> no, I didn't do anything
[12:23] <brunch875> I wrote startx and that's it
[12:23] <brunch875> which is funny since it would do something on my previous computer
[12:23] <akik> brunch875: ok so maybe display :0 is still running and startx tried to open display :1
[12:23] <brunch875> if I close with ctrl-alt-backspace it does so without issues
[12:24] <akik> brunch875: in my case i stopped the gui completely before trying to run startx
[12:25] <brunch875> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18022948/
[12:25] <brunch875> I don't see any errors when glancing at it
[12:27] <akik> brunch875: it says [ 10787.152] (--) NVIDIA(0): No enabled display devices found; starting anyway because
[12:27] <brunch875> if I startx -- :1 I get the same results
[12:27] <brunch875> ...but wouldn't such issue prevent the ubuntu desktop to launching when booting the computer?
[12:28] <akik> brunch875: you just said that your gui works if you just boot the computer
[12:29] <brunch875> yeah, I'm using GUI to chat in irc right now
[12:29] <brunch875> I just want to start another one in tty6 for performance in games
[12:29] <brunch875> and for the sake of knowledge, too
[12:30] <williamconna> i use irssi for chat in irc
[12:32] <akik> brunch875: yea i've used that syntax before years ago
[12:32] <akik> brunch875: startx -- :1
[12:40] <Twirl> Hello, anyone knows how to permanently fix the locale bug that keeps removing the locale settings? it's so annoying
[12:41] <Twirl> locale-gen en_US en_US.UTF-8 then dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't work
[12:43] <jonky> since I updated ubuntu this morning i've been having problems with all my browsers. ubuntu browser just wont load, firefox crashes after irregular amounts of time when the dev tools are open, and chrome hangs occasionally. have any other users been reporting similar issues?
[12:43] <Twirl> that locale issue is seriously retarded
[12:43] <akik> Twirl: how do you get the locale error? how does your /etc/default/locale look like?
[12:43] <jonky> oh, and im running 16.04
[12:46] <McDonald> Can anybody help with http://nerdvittles.com/?p=9713
[12:46] <Twirl> akik: it looks retarded seriously, why not just set every locale to the freaking same value? no, we have to make it stupid so we force you to configure this yourself and waste your time
[12:47] <McDonald> I want IncrediblePBX for 16.04
[12:48] <akik> Twirl: sorry, what?
[12:48] <McDonald> Do anybody got knowledge for how to use it with 16.04 ?
[12:51] <McDonald> Anyone alive ?
[12:52] <McDonald> help
[12:52] <ducasse> McDonald: if you have problems with a third-party application, i suggest you ask them.
[12:57] <noka> hello
[13:01] <boriseto> How to add a webcal into gnome-calendar in 16.04?
[13:05] <Napoelon_> McDonald: I had a look at their website.  (Cool package) but it says its meant to works with U14.
[13:09] <brexitmeanspeace> hi, anyone using coinbase here via ubuntu successfully?
[13:09] <izu1> Hi i posted my problem here if anyone casn help would be grateful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2329130
[13:09] <brexitmeanspeace> the flash plugin does not seem to work for me properly as in it does not accept the accept at the identity verification.
[13:17] <EriC^^> izu1: try pressing esc when you get the purple screen and see what it says
[13:21] <Llightss> hi
[13:23] <Llightss> no one here?
[13:23] <EriC^^> ask your question
[13:23] <SwedeMike> !ask | Llightss
[13:24] <ahmadali> hi all
[13:26] <izu1> need help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2329130
[13:26] <EriC^^> izu1: try pressing esc when you get the purple screen and see what it says
[13:26] <izu1> Hi Eric
[13:26] <izu1> when i get to the Purple screen there is no response to any commands
[13:26] <izu1> i will try esc
[13:27] <EriC^^> izu1: is the try ubuntu menu black and white?
[13:27] <izu1> no its purple with the ubuntu symbol in the middle
[13:27] <izu1> and 5 white dots
[13:27] <izu1> turning to purple
[13:27] <izu1> and when all the dots are purple it gets stuck
[13:28] <EriC^^> no, i mean the menu before that, that has try ubuntu or install ubuntu
[13:28] <izu1> http://linoob.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Ubuntu-Bootscreen.png
[13:28] <izu1> yes
[13:28] <izu1> that menu is black and white
[13:28] <EriC^^> ok, press "e" over try ubuntu, and remove "quiet splash" from the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz .... quiet splash
[13:29] <EriC^^> press ctrl+x to boot it
[13:29] <izu1> one moent
[13:30] <izu1> when i get over try ubuntu i press e
[13:30] <izu1> how to remove quiet splash
[13:30] <izu1> sorry bit of a nub
[13:30] <yaarana> I got a virtual machine for which the virtual disk size was fixed allocated and now what I want is to transfer the files of it to a new virtual disk , can anybody do it ?
[13:30] <EriC^^> backspace
[13:30] <Llightss> ubottu
[13:30] <Llightss> SwedeMike
[13:30] <Llightss> swedemike i was just being friendly
[13:30] <izu1> when i press e a command line will appear and i hae to remove quiet spalsh right
[13:30] <Llightss> no need to become all official
[13:31] <EriC^^> izu1: yeah
[13:31] <izu1> will try be right back
[13:31] <EriC^^> yaarana: are you trying to make the disk larger ultimately?
[13:32] <yaarana> nope narrow it!
[13:32] <izu1> when i press e over try ubuntu there is no response
[13:32] <yaarana> Eric^^
[13:32] <izu1> but some very high pitch sound from the computer (barely audible)
[13:32] <Llightss> how do you all rate ubuntu? are any of you thinking of leaving it?
[13:33] <EriC^^> yaarana: try to resize the filesystem then the partition, then use the virtualbox disk tools to resize the actual disk
[13:33] <EriC^^> yaarana: one moment
[13:33] <Llightss> eric^^ can you recommend any alternatives to ubuntu ?
[13:34] <yaarana> Llightss : Windows
[13:34] <yaarana> :-P
[13:34] <EriC^^> yaarana: https://www.maketecheasier.com/shrink-your-virtualbox-vm/
[13:34] <izu1> Llightss : https://www.linux.com/news/best-linux-distros-2016
[13:34] <ericbradatsch> * * * * * wget http://url >/dev/null 2>&1 # JOB_ID_14 -> this produces log files in my home directory. how can I turn this off? I read that /dev/null helps
[13:34] <mxgms> Llightss: I think that this is not an alternative here...
[13:35] <EriC^^> izu1: press esc once the purple screen starts
[13:35] <izu1> ok
[13:36] <ericbradatsch> I forgot to say - i put it in crontab (cronjob)
[13:37] <izu1> Hi eric i opened some screen thru esc
[13:37] <izu1> is says sd} no caching mode page found
[13:37] <izu1> second line
[13:37] <izu1> sdb} assumingdrive cache : write trhough
[13:37] <SchrodingersScat> ericbradatsch: I've used > /dev/null 2>/dev/null before
[13:38] <izu1> then a bunch of white symbols that look like hb hb hb
[13:38] <SchrodingersScat> ericbradatsch: are there any flags you're using with the wget command?
[13:38] <mxgms> Llightss: from the list izu1, half is ubuntu based... :) why search for alternatives?
[13:39] <yaarana> Eric^^ : The link you provided is for dynamically allocated storage. I asked for fixed one !
[13:39] <noka> Trying to start a django project but whenever I run django-admin startproject myproject,,,this error comes up Cannot find installed version of python-django or python3-django. what could be the problem? Thanks
[13:40] <ericbradatsch> SchrodingersScat: Thanks for the tip - tried </dev/null 2>/dev/null without success. No it is just a plain wget url without any flags. However it always writes the response to a file. I just want to access the page without writing anything to filesystem
[13:42] <SchrodingersScat> ericbradatsch: oh, so you mean wget is working exactly as intended then :P  maybe you want curl?  or an option to output wget to something else, like the /dev/null.
[13:42] <EriC^^> yaarana: aha
[13:42] <ericbradatsch> SchrodingersScat: uh - sorry. Never thought about that...
[13:43] <SchrodingersScat> ericbradatsch: yep, cause default is for it to download it.  If it had been cron output then it would have likely gone to an email, was wondering what 'log' you meant.
[13:43] <yaarana> Well, I got another solution but that would never be called optimum solution .
[13:43] <EriC^^> izu1: any other errors before that?
[13:43] <yaarana> EriC^^
[13:43] <ericbradatsch> SchrodingersScat: so "wget -q url" would work then?
[13:43] <izu1> no
[13:44] <EriC^^> izu1: which model is the laptop?
[13:44] <SchrodingersScat> ericbradatsch: that's still just suppressing the output of the download, it would still download it
[13:44] <izu1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2329130
[13:44] <JackSnow> Hey guys is it possible to disable auto boot on grub2? I have both ubuntu and windows and I would like it not to automatically boot into the first on list.
[13:44] <Llightss> mxgms i have some ethical issues with ubuntu
[13:45] <ericbradatsch> SchrodingersScat: Got it "wget -O /dev/null url" should work then
[13:45] <SchrodingersScat> ericbradatsch: it's -O
[13:45] <ericbradatsch> SchrodingersScat:
[13:45] <ericbradatsch> Thanks
[13:45] <ericbradatsch> a lot
[13:45] <SchrodingersScat> ericbradatsch: you may also want the -q
[13:45] <yaarana> EriC^^ : I compressed its directory (.tar.bz2)  and would decompress it whenever to use but as I said this is nowhere a proper solution .
[13:45] <SchrodingersScat> ericbradatsch: yep, good luck
[13:46] <izu1> ERIC^^ the link i pasted has all my information
[13:46] <EriC^^> ok
[13:46] <ericbradatsch> SchrodingersScat: You helped me a lot! Really appreciate :D See you soon. Thanks!
[13:47] <EriC^^> yaarana: make a new vm and add the disk of the old vm to it
[13:47] <EriC^^> then mount the filesystem of the old one and copy over the contents to the new smaller vm
[13:52] <izu1> Eric^^ any news?
[13:54] <EriC^^> izu1: try with nomodeset maybe
[13:55] <EriC^^> izu1: are there any bios settings you can play with?
[13:55] <izu1> nomodeset
[13:55] <izu1> where do i type this
[13:55] <EriC^^> this is the only thread related i could find http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1882729
[13:56] <EriC^^> you need to be able to press "e" to add nomodeset
[13:56] <izu1> i can press tab then some writing appears athe bottom
[13:56] <izu1> but w doesnt work
[13:56] <izu1> e*
[13:57] <EriC^^> try booting in legacy mode and see if it works
[13:57] <EriC^^> disable uefi or enable csm legacy in the bios
[13:57] <izu1> ok
[13:57] <JackSnow> Hey guys is it possible to disable auto boot on grub2? I have both ubuntu and windows and I would like it not to automatically boot into the first on list.
[13:58] <EriC^^> JackSnow: yeah
[13:58] <EriC^^> JackSnow: what do you want it to do exactly
[13:58] <EriC^^> ?
[13:58] <JackSnow> To basically not automatically boot after some seconds.
[13:58] <JackSnow> I have been looking inside /etc/default/grub
[13:59] <JackSnow> but can't really tell which options is for booting into first on list after x amount of seconds.
[13:59] <EriC^^> try setting the GRUB_TIMEOUT=0
[13:59] <izu1> disabled uefi enabled legacy still stuck at the purple screen .
[13:59] <EriC^^> i think setting it to 0 causes it to just keep waiting
[13:59] <akik> JackSnow: set GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1 and it waits indefinitely
[14:00] <myrddin_> Hi. Can someone help me with my amdgpu configuration? I am trying to use the LunarG Vulkan SDK, but I get VK_ERROR_INCOMPATIBLE_DRIVER. I am running Ubuntu 16.04 with a ASUS strix r9 380.
[14:00] <JackSnow> ahh -1 I see, because I did indeed have it on 0 and it didn't do much.
[14:00] <JackSnow> Thanks guys.
[14:01] <JackSnow> Cya
[14:02] <EriC^^> izu1: did you get a different menu this time?
[14:02] <izu1> same exact menu
[14:02] <EriC^^> it shouldn't be black and white if it booted in legacy mode correctly
[14:03] <izu1> ill revheck
[14:03] <izu1> recheck
[14:03] <EriC^^> try to see any bios options that might be related, also disabling secureboot is a good idea
[14:04] <izu1> i dont have sucre boot in my bios
[14:04] <EriC^^> sometimes you need to enable the admin password in the bios to get the option from being grayed out
[14:04] <izu1> i will re confirm that i have set tolegacy
[14:04] <izu1> ak ok
[14:07] <izu1> i set a supervisor password
[14:07] <izu1> but dont see any options for secureboot
[14:09] <EriC^^> try to enable uefi again and see if it appears somewhere, or anthing that says "trust"
[14:09] <EriC^^> or efi file or signed list or something similar
[14:14] <TGVoid> I am unable to install testdisk.
[14:14] <izu1> be right back
[14:14] <izu1> 10 minutes
[14:14] <EriC^^> TGVoid: what error do you get?
[14:14] <EriC^^> izu1: ok
[14:16] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Nevermind. I forgot to enable Universe.
[14:19] <izu1> enabbling then disabling uefi had no effect on bios layout or options
[14:19] <ppf> can i install ubuntu on a second disk without booting into a live image first?
[14:19] <EriC^^> ppf: you might be able to boot the iso from grub, i haven't had much luck in the newer ubuntus though
[14:20] <ppf> that would be booting a live image, too :)
[14:20] <EriC^^> :p
[14:20] <ppf> i have a running ubuntu on this machine, and i'll install a second one on a second disk, do i actually have to boot a third one to do that?
[14:21] <EriC^^> do you want to clone the one you have right now on the second?
[14:21] <Jordan_U> ppf: Yes you can do that, no it's probably not worth the hassle involved.
[14:21] <TGVoid> On testdisk, I did a quicksearch on an NTFS drive image of a single partition. Two partitions of the same size came up as * Linux and P Linux. Both have no files. What do I do?
[14:21] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try the deep search
[14:22] <ppf> EriC^^: well, cloning could be one option
[14:22] <EriC^^> TGVoid: did you keep the default selected partition table type ? Intel or GPT etc
[14:22] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I selected Intel, but testdisk recommended "None"
[14:23] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It was a drive of a Windows 10 PC formatted to NTFS
[14:23] <EriC^^> ppf: if it's the same exact disk size you could use dd to clone it which is pretty inefficient, or you could make the partition table and filesystems manually, mount them, rsync the contents over and then chroot and install grub
[14:23] <ppf> i guess i could copy all data over to the second disk. the running hard drive is going to fail in the near future, i'd prefer to stress it as little as possible
[14:23] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try EFI gpt
[14:23] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Isn't that for Mac?
[14:23] <EriC^^> TGVoid: no, also windows 7+
[14:24] <Jordan_U> TGVoid: How did the contents of this drive become "corrupted"?
[14:24] <izu1> Eric is it hopeless ? anythign else i can try
[14:24] <TGVoid> Jordan_U: Randomly. I assume it's a software corruption
[14:24] <EriC^^> TGVoid: what does sudo parted -l show for the disk right now?
[14:24] <Jordan_U> TGVoid: Have you checked the drive's S.M.A.R.T. status?
[14:25] <EriC^^> izu1: nothing is coming to mind, there's a way for sure though i'd guess
[14:25] <ppf> is it broken hard drives day?
[14:25] <ppf> have there been sun storms over the weekend? :D
[14:25] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I don't have the disk. I created an image and sent the PC for repair
[14:25] <ahmed> hi
[14:25] <TGVoid> Jordan_U: No. I don't have the drive now, so I can't
[14:26] <ahmed> how i can open port
[14:26] <TGVoid> ahmed: Port forward?
[14:26] <ahmed> yes
[14:26] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try sudo parted -l /path/to/image
[14:27] <TGVoid> ahmed: Do you have a double router setup?
[14:27] <ahmed> i open port in router
[14:28] <varaindemian> I don't know why but from time to time (undefined intervals) I lose internet connection. The applet shows I'm connected but pinging any site from terminal doesn't work
[14:28] <ahmed> but i dont know how open it in linux backbox
[14:28] <varaindemian> is it a know issue for 16.04?
[14:28] <TGVoid> EriC^^: "invalid option -- '1'
[14:28] <izu1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2329130 anyone know what the problem is here ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2329130  gotto go
[14:28] <EriC^^> varaindemian: try "dmesg" in a terminal and look for any errors when it happens
[14:29] <EriC^^> TGVoid: small L not 1
[14:29] <brexitmeanspeace> how can one install the latest flash on ubuntu 14.04?
[14:29] <TGVoid> ahmed: Oh.. I'm not sure then
[14:29] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Oh
[14:29] <varaindemian> EriC^^: I had to reboot to regain access
[14:29] <Jordan_U> ppf: Any reason you can't just buy a thumb drive and use that?
[14:30] <EriC^^> varaindemian: try /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/kern.log.1
[14:30] <varaindemian> EriC^^: isn't any command to retrive the errors that might ocure before the reboot
[14:30] <varaindemian> ?
[14:30] <ppf> Jordan_U: the machine is like 10 rooms away
[14:30] <Jordan_U> ppf: Is it hard to walk to the room the machine is in?
[14:30] <ppf> also its noisy and cold in the server room
[14:30] <TGVoid> EriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/18028436/
[14:31] <ahmed> think
[14:33] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try fdisk -l /path/to/image
[14:33] <marcelo-arg>  /server irc-hispano.org
[14:33] <varaindemian> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/SRpYsUGS
[14:34] <EriC^^> varaindemian: is that kern.log or kern.log.1 ?
[14:34] <TGVoid> EriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/18028610/
[14:35] <EriC^^> TGVoid: you had a ntfs partition?
[14:35] <varaindemian> EriC^^: kern.log
[14:35] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Yes
[14:36] <EriC^^> varaindemian: try kern.log.1
[14:37] <varaindemian> EriC^^: I have nothing from kernel.log.1
[14:37] <varaindemian> At least today
[14:38] <EriC^^> TGVoid: it also had 2 8gb linux partitions?
[14:38] <TGVoid> EriC^^: No?
[14:39] <EriC^^> TGVoid: it somehow says it has 2 8gb linux partitions
[14:39] <EriC^^> TGVoid: did you write anything with testdisk?
[14:39] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I think I did
[14:40] <brexitmeanspeace> anyone using rubbish flash here successfully?
[14:40] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It had an option to write to disk, and I chose yes
[14:40] <EriC^^> ok, so it used to have windows 10 right?
[14:40] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Yes
[14:41] <EriC^^> TGVoid: do you remember if it was uefi or legacy?
[14:41] <TGVoid> EriC^^: No
[14:41] <EriC^^> was windows 10 preinstalled?
[14:41] <sh0t> Hi guys I had my RT3290 wifi working with ubuntu 15.04/10 following the hints in ubuntu forums. I upgraded to 16.04 and now that doesn't work anymore. Any help?
[14:41] <TGVoid> EriC^^: No. I upgraded from 8.1
[14:42] <bonzibuddy> hello - when i try to open a file downloaded in any browser (read: firefox + chrome), it opens the file explorer to its containing folder, but never opens the file... is there a fix for this?
[14:42] <EriC^^> TGVoid: aha, it's probably uefi then
[14:42] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try running testdisk with EFI gpt as the partition table type, and let it run the deep search if it doesn't find anything with quick search
[14:43] <Jordan_U> sh0t: Please pastebin the output of "lspci -k" and "dmesg".
[14:43] <TGVoid> EriC^^: The laptop was 64 bit if it helps
[14:43] <EriC^^> TGVoid: ok
[14:44] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It started. See you in 3 hours.
[14:44] <TGVoid> EriC^^: And thanks for your help
[14:44] <EriC^^> ok, no problem
[14:45] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try gdisk -l /path/to/image real quick
[14:47] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It had an option to write to disk, and I chose yes
[14:48] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Sorry. That was an accident
[14:48] <EriC^^> no problem
[14:48] <TGVoid> EriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/18029244/
[14:50] <EriC^^> TGVoid: ok, give testdisk a shot
[14:50] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Alrighty!
[14:50] <EriC^^> which laptop model is it?
[14:50] <TomyWork> I want to install a package that was designed for 14.04 on 16.04. There is no package for 16.04 as this is a historic version of the software that I need to install in order to cleanly upgrade from it. That package's setup scripts try to run "initctl status gitlab-runsvdir", which fails because there is no initctl.
[14:50] <bonzibuddy> whenever i download a file in chrome/firefox and i click on the download to open it, It opens in file explorere and not e.g. gedit... what determines file launching??
[14:51] <TomyWork> will ln -s /bin/{system,init}ctl work here?
[14:52] <TomyWork> it doesnt need to be clean or anything, i'm gonna create a dump and revert to a pre-install VM snapshot when i'm done anyway :)
[14:53] <bonzibuddy> nvm - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1863044 is the fix :)
[14:55] <dahlia_> hello
[14:55] <sh0t> Hi guys I had my Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe wifi working with ubuntu 15.04/10 following the hints in ubuntu forums. I upgraded to 16.04 and now that doesn't work anymore. Any help?
[14:56] <Jordan_U> sh0t: Did you miss my earlier reply to you?
[14:56] <sh0t> yes Jordan_U sorry i am going to read that now!
[14:58] <sh0t> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/18029765/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/18029794/
[14:59] <sh0t> Jordan_U, if i do modprobe rt3290sta i get:  modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'rt3290sta': Required key not available
[15:02] <Jordan_U> sh0t: That means that you're using secure boot and the rt3290sta kernel module isn't signed with a key that your computer trusts.
[15:02] <Hulkie> hi
[15:02] <Hulkie> [Tue13:52] (Popeye): Currently: couldn't load file "/usr/lib/tcltk/Trf2.1.4/libTrf2.1.4.so": /usr/lib/tcltk/Trf2.1.4/libTrf2.1.4.so: undefined symbol: MD2_Update
[15:02] <Hulkie> [Tue13:52] (Popeye): Currently: while executing
[15:02] <Hulkie> [Tue13:52] (Popeye): Currently: "load /usr/lib/tcltk/Trf2.1.4/libTrf2.1.4.so"
[15:02] <sh0t> ok Jordan_U thanks, is there a way to solve that?
[15:03] <Hulkie> any idea how i can fix that ?
[15:03] <Jordan_U> sh0t: You could sign it yourself, and add your own key to your trust store, but I'm guessing that in Ubuntu 16.04 you no longer need a manually compiled driver for this card.
[15:03] <sh0t> Jordan_U, it seems that there are not official drivers for that on the ubuntu repos though...
[15:03] <sh0t> i am going to try to sign it and see
[15:04] <Jordan_U> sh0t: Another option is to disable secure boot.
[15:04] <sh0t> oh how do i do that Jordan_U ?
[15:04] <sh0t> from the BIOS?
[15:05] <capum4321> hello
[15:05] <Hulkie> can i get tcl-trf-dev_2.1.4-dfsg-3_i386.deb <- for ubuntu ? that's from a debian forum
[15:06] <Jordan_U> Hulkie: What is your end goal?
[15:08] <Hulkie> Jordan_U: i pasted earlier, 3 lines containing: undefined symbol: MD2_Update
[15:08] <Hulkie> Jordan_U: on a debian forum i found the bug, which they say it fixed by that package, i have ubuntu 12
[15:08] <capum4321> i am on ubuntu server 15.10 wily, where do I start to setup wifi 'ifdown wlp2s0 -> interface not configured' and 'ifup -v wlp2s0 -> ignoring unknown interface.'
[15:08] <Jordan_U> Hulkie: But what is your end goal?
[15:09] <Hulkie> an eggdrop that uses HTTP and TLS package and from time to time TRF package..
[15:09] <Hulkie> which now it's not working..
[15:09] <Hulkie> it's twitter/rss script for eggdrop
[15:10] <Jordan_U> Hulkie: Please link to the webpage for this script.
[15:10] <debug0x1> My first fsuk issues :/
[15:11]  * debug0x1 cries
[15:12] <spupy> I'm starting an unmodified Openbox through lightdm (14.04) and it's starting gnome session stuff that I don't need. There is no autostart, xinitrc is empty, /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart is commented out, I just dont see where this gnome stuff is coming from
[15:12] <Hulkie> Jordan_U: https://github.com/eggtcl/rss-synd <- the rss
[15:12] <sh0t> Jordan_U, i rebooted disabled SEcure Boot but i still get the same error
[15:15] <kulelu88> Hi
[15:15] <kulelu88> how do I view bash history as the root user?
[15:16] <Jordan_U> sh0t: Please pastebin the complete output of "dmesg", which you can do automatically by running "dmesg | pastebinit".
[15:16] <OerHeks> kulelu88, sudo less /root/.bash_history
[15:17] <_arktos75_> sudo less /root/.bash_history
[15:17] <kulelu88> OerHeks: where does the .bash_history file for root stay? I couldn't find it after typing 'cd'
[15:17] <OerHeks> kulelu88, not sure what you expect to find there ..
[15:17] <kulelu88> OerHeks: I am trying to find some of my old commands I used to install packages in a container.
[15:17] <Jordan_U> kulelu88: There should ideally be very little or nothing in root's bash history, as you shuold be using sudo for individual commands rather than running a shell as root (or even worse, logging in as root).
[15:18] <curlyears> heigh hough
[15:18] <OerHeks> kulelu88, those are not there.
[15:18] <kulelu88> Jordan_U: my LXC containers are root, but I am now using sudo commands instead. However, I need to find some of my old install commands I did as root (for some containers)
[15:19] <OerHeks> kulelu88, the commands you find, were typed as user.
[15:20] <kulelu88> OerHeks: even if (within the container), it says "root@app"?
[15:22] <OerHeks> kulelu88, not sure, though apt get logged in var/log/auth
[15:22] <akik> kulelu88: root's home directory is /root
[15:22] <Jordan_U> kulelu88: Were you running these commands inside or outside the containers?
[15:23] <kulelu88> Jordan_U: inside
[15:23] <Hulkie> Jordan_U: any ideea?
[15:24] <Jordan_U> kulelu88: Then you need to look at the /root/ directory within the individual containers.
[15:25] <kulelu88> thanks Jordan_U OerHeks akik
[15:25] <sh0t> Hi Jordan_U thanks i signed the module and now it seems to work. THanks a lot. CHeers.
[15:25] <Hulkie> Jordan_U: that's the debian bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=664713
[15:30] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It's done.
[15:31] <TGVoid> EriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/18031657/
[15:32] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Great... I accidently pressed control and c at the same time....
[15:32] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I'm redoing the quick search.
[15:34] <fennesz> hello ! out of curiosity I have a new verbatim store n save 2tb drive. I have formated it to ext4 and the drive was constantly spinning for no reason ( the led was also blinking indicating access ) I have reformatted it to ntfs with verbatims software and now the drive stays idle? I am using Debian 8 x64 . What might be the issue?
[15:34] <sstory> Anyone know if this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev is safe/reliable?
[15:35] <samara> sstory: i use it, glebihan is in #hexchat
[15:35] <sstory> Thanks samara
[15:35] <nacc> sstory: that's not really a way to tell that, though :)
[15:35] <nacc> sstory: polling, I mean
[15:36] <sstory> nacc: OK. What do you recommend? I need a newer version of hexchat for 14.04
[15:36] <nacc> sstory: why do you "need" a newer version?
[15:36] <sstory> The current version doesn't have the tray icon notification and it is a pain in the rump.
[15:37] <nacc> sstory: is that a new feature in the later versions? or a bugfix for something?
[15:37] <sstory> nacc: If there is a way to get the indicator working it would be nice. It does work in Centos and Windows...
[15:37] <junaid> Hi everyone!
[15:37] <sstory> nacc: hmm. I'm not sure... I was using Pidgin but since sourceforge is no longer reliable it is hard to get reliably for my Windows users
[15:38] <samara> glebihan: you here? :-)
[15:39] <nacc> sstory: and i didn't mean specifically about this package earlier. I meant that generally, PPAs are only maintained by their owner. It is purely a measure of your trust in that person/team as to whether you use it. Anyone's opinion of their reliability is just that (and I would definitely not trust someone else's opinion for "safety" measurements. YOu either are able to do that yourself, or you should not
[15:39] <nacc> use the PPA).
[15:39] <nacc> sstory: and, to be fair, you "want" to get a later version :) "need" implies that the current version doesn't work at all (IMO)
[15:40] <sstory> nacc: That's what I was afraid of. There is no way to know...
[15:40] <nacc> sstory: you can always reach out to the owner to see what their security guarantees are, but generally there aren't any
[15:40] <sstory> nacc: yeah.. I imagined.
[15:41] <sstory> nacc: Thanks!
[15:42] <samara> nacc: i agree that it 100% depends on whether you trust the PPA owner. Use your discretion :-)
[15:42] <junaid> Can anyone please confirm whether uploading a dkms package to a PPA is different than uploading normal packages?
[15:43] <nacc> sstory: samara: and depending on the nature of the issue, it might be a real bug, and using a PPA to workaround it means it never gets fixed in Ubuntu proper. I don't know in this case, but generally..
[15:44] <sstory> OK: To "Ubuntu Proper" please fix and include a newer version of hexchat for the 14.04 distro. ;)
[15:44] <nacc> sstory: that's not how it works (new versions) :)
[15:45] <sstory> nacc: How good do inplace upgrades from 14.04 to xenial usually go? Break the world? Work well?
[15:45] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | sstory
[15:45] <nacc> sstory: your results may vary, but i would wait
[15:45] <sstory> ubottu: my Birthday! ;)
[15:46] <sstory> Great. Now I'm talking to machines ;)
[15:46] <Tin_man> well at least it knows your birthday now. :)
[15:47] <sstory> Tin_man: yeah8-)
[15:47] <Tin_man> when i install a ubuntu/linux in the very beginning i just "sudo apt-get install hexchat" and hope it gives me the latest one.
[15:48] <Tin_man> after updating that is
[15:48] <sstory> Tin_man: Well it doesn't on 14.04... and the new one does what I need...but guess I'll have to wait.
[15:48] <nacc> !latest
[15:49] <nacc> it gives you the "latest" one Ubuntu <release> has :)
[15:50] <sstory> !backports
[15:50] <nacc> sstory: yes, good poitn, but backports are 'opt-in', not enabled by default
[15:53] <junaid> "/msg test"
[15:53] <ken_> hi
[15:55] <ken_> Windows 10 is a personal computer operating system developed and released by Microsoft as part of the Windows NT family of operating systems. It was officially unveiled in September 2014 following a brief demo at Build 2014. The first version of the operating system entered a public beta testing process in October 2014, leading up to its consumer release on July 29, 2015.[4]
[15:55] <ken_> Windows 10 introduces what Microsoft described as "universal apps"; expanding on Metro-style apps, these apps can be designed to run across multiple Microsoft product families with nearly identical code‍—‌including PCs, tablets, smartphones, embedded systems, Xbox One, Surface Hub and Windows Holographic. The Windows user interface was revised to handle transitions between a mouse-oriented interface and a touchscreen-optimized interface bas
[15:55] <ken_> ed on available input devices‍—‌particularly on 2-in-1 PCs; both interfaces include an updated Start menu which incorporates elements of Windows 7's traditional Start menu with the tiles of Windows 8. The first release of Windows 10 also introduces a virtual desktop system, a window and desktop management feature called Task View, the Microsoft Edge web browser, support for fingerprint and face recognition login, new security features for enter
[15:55] <ken_> prise environments, and DirectX 12 and WDDM 2.0 to improve the operating system's graphics capabilities for games.
[15:55] <ken_> Microsoft described Windows 10 as an "operating system as a service" that would receive ongoing updates to its features and functionality, augmented with the ability for enterprise environments to receive non-critical updates at a slower pace, or use long-term support milestones that will only receive critical updates, such as security patches, over their five-year lifespan of mainstream support. Terry Myerson, executive vice president of Microsoft's Windows
[15:55] <sixsmith> please don't spam
[15:56] <ken_> and Devices Group, argued that the goal of this model was to reduce fragmentation across the Windows platform, as Microsoft aimed to have Windows 10 installed on at least one billion devices in the two to three years following its release.[5]
[15:56] <ken_> Windows 10 received mostly positive reviews upon its original release in July 2015; critics praised Microsoft's decision to downplay user-interface mechanics introduced by Windows 8 (including the full screen apps and Start screen) in non-touch environments to provide a desktop-oriented interface in line with previous versions of Windows, although Windows 10's touch-oriented user interface mode was panned for containing regressions upon the touch-oriented
[15:56] <ken_> interface of Windows 8. Critics also praised the improvements to Windows 10's bundled software over 8.1, Xbox Live integration, as well as the functionality and capabilities of Cortana personal assistant and the replacement of Internet Explorer with Microsoft Edge.
[15:56] <ken_> Critics characterized the initial release of Windows 10 in July 2015 as being rushed, citing the incomplete state of some of the operating system's bundled software (such as the Edge web browser), as well as the stability of the operating system itself on launch.[6][7][8] Windows 10 was also criticized for limiting how users can control its operation, including limited controls over the installation of updates on the main consumer-oriented edition in
[15:56] <ken_> comparison to previous versions. Privacy concerns were also voiced by critics and advocates, as the operating system's default settings and certain features require the transmission of user data to Microsoft or its partners. Microsoft has also received criticism for how it has distributed Windows 10 to users of existing versions of Windows, which has included the automatic downloads of installation files to computers, the recurring display of pop-ups
[15:56] <ken_> advertising the upgrade, and the installation process being scheduled or initiated automatically without expressed user consent.[9][10][11][12]Windows 10 is a personal computer operating system developed and released by Microsoft as part of the Windows NT family of operating systems. It was officially unveiled in September 2014 following a brief demo at Build 2014. The first version of the operating system entered a public beta testing process in October
[15:56] <ken_> 2014, leading up to its consumer release on July 29, 2015.[4]
[15:56] <tgm4883> the drone seems to be asleep
[15:56] <tgm4883> !ops
[15:56] <ken_> Windows 10 introduces what Microsoft described as "universal apps"; expanding on Metro-style apps, these apps can be designed to run across multiple Microsoft product families with nearly identical code‍—‌including PCs, tablets, smartphones, embedded systems, Xbox One, Surface Hub and Windows Holographic. The Windows user interface was revised to handle transitions between a mouse-oriented interface and a touchscreen-optimized interface bas
[15:56] <ken_> ed on available input devices‍—‌particularly on 2-in-1 PCs; both interfaces include an updated Start menu which incorporates elements of Windows 7's traditional Start menu with the tiles of Windows 8. The first release of Windows 10 also introduces a virtual desktop system, a window and desktop management feature called Task View, the Microsoft Edge web browser, support for fingerprint and face recognition login, new security features for enter
[15:56] <ken_> prise environments, and DirectX 12 and WDDM 2.0 to improve the operating system's graphics capabilities for games.
[15:56] <ken_> Microsoft described Windows 10 as an "operating system as a service" that would receive ongoing updates to its features and functionality, augmented with the ability for enterprise environments to receive non-critical updates at a slower pace, or use long-term support milestones that will only receive critical updates, such as security patches, over their five-year lifespan of mainstream support. Terry Myerson, executive vice president of Microsoft's Windows
[15:56] <ken_> and Devices Group, argued that the goal of this model was to reduce fragmentation across the Windows platform, as Microsoft aimed to have Windows 10 installed on at least one billion devices in the two to three years following its release.[5]
[15:56] <_arktos75_> geez ,,,
[15:56] <Executioner> did he copy a wikipedia article or something on uwps for spamming?
[15:59] <Tin_man> well that was interesting, everything you wanted to know about windows 10 but was afraid to ask.
[15:59] <niber> =O9assi
[15:59] <niber> i
[16:01] <diverdude> Does anybody know a good tool for viewing images remotely? simple png images, with possibility of refreshing image easily
[16:03] <nacc> diverdude: do you already have a remote graphical interface?
[16:03] <diverdude> nacc, just ssh
[16:03] <diverdude> nacc, which ofc is not graphical
[16:03] <diverdude> nacc, but thats what i have
[16:03] <Tin_man> it would be only as fast as your connection. my default viewer works fine with ssh.
[16:05] <nacc> diverdude: well, ssh -X, potentially
[16:05] <diverdude> nacc, yeah...only that requires servers to have X installed and its slow and tedious :/
[16:05] <nacc> :)
[16:05] <diverdude> nacc, i was hoping for some easy to use image transfer program
[16:06] <nelson_> hi all, i am getting an Out of Range ! message generated by my display when booting Ubuntu 16.04.. I can get to a terminal if i boot in recovery mode and I am using the open source drivers
[16:06] <junaid> Does anyone guide me to upload a dkms package to PPA?
[16:06] <nelson_> has anyone ever run into the issue i described?
[16:06] <junaid> can*
[16:06] <nacc> junaid: what happens when you try?
[16:09] <junaid> nacc, it gets uploaded but when it gets downloaded and installed, it errors out "This package appears to be a binaries-only package"
[16:09] <nacc> junaid: link to PPA?
[16:09] <nacc> junaid: how are you installing it?
[16:10] <junaid> nacc, https://launchpad.net/~plumgrid-team/+archive/ubuntu/experiment/+packages
[16:10] <junaid> nacc, adding the ppa and then sudo apt-get install <dkms package>
[16:11] <junaid> nacc, sudo apt-get install iovisor-dkms
[16:11] <nacc> junaid: can you pastebin the exact output?
[16:11] <junaid> sure..
[16:12] <Tin_man> nelson_, might be your monitor setting is out of range, but not sure how you would fix it, someone here most likely would if given time to answer.
[16:13] <akik> is this a known bug that in unity with 2 displays, the launcher stops the mouse pointer from going into the other display?
[16:14] <akik> i moved the launcher to the bottom and the problem was gone
[16:14] <tgm4883> akik: Are you going at it full speed?
[16:15] <akik> tgm4883: full speed, always :)
[16:15] <tgm4883> akik: I don't have that problem at all. Hidden launcher, going at it full speed it goes to the other screen just fine
[16:16] <akik> tgm4883: i have the launcher on both displays
[16:16] <tgm4883> akik: as do i
[16:16] <akik> tgm4883: but i don't hide it
[16:16] <nelson_> Tin_man, thanks, this happened after in uninstalled the nvidia driver from the additional drivers tool
[16:17] <tgm4883> akik: auto-hide shouldn't affect it, I just tested and unhiding it doesn't cause issues for me either
[16:17] <tgm4883> 16.04
[16:17] <nelson_> i wonder if i were to just re-install the nvidia drivers if it would fix the issue.. anyone know what the package name is for the latest nvidia driver in the hardware drivers tool?
[16:17] <junaid> nacc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/18034279/
[16:18] <junaid> nacc, sorry for the delayed response..
[16:18] <nacc> junaid: np! looking
[16:27] <nelson_> so i was finally able to get to the desktop using nomodeset but now when i look in the additional drivers section i dont see any nvidia entries
[16:27] <kilbith> someone can explain me why the bloated package 'fonts-noto-cjk' is installed by default on ubuntu ?
[16:28] <kilbith> 75 MB, just for fonts... *cough*
[16:29] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Hello?
[16:30] <TGVoid> Can someone help me with testdisk?
[16:30] <tgm4883> kilbith: someone thought that it was necessary enough to include it apparently
[16:31] <kilbith> tgm4883, yes... but why ?
[16:31] <TGVoid> This is what's happening: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18031657/
[16:31] <tgm4883> kilbith: that sounds like a question for the ubuntu developers mailing list, or you might be able to look through the changelog
[16:31] <nelson_> if i manually install nvidia-361 via the terminal in recovery mode does anyone know if that is the equivalent of selecting the "Using NVIDIA binary driver - version 361.43 from nvidia-361 (proprietary tested) as seen in the additional drivers tool?
[16:32] <kilbith> tgm4883,  apparently these are the japanese/chinese fonts, but why would i care if i'm european ?
[16:32] <tgm4883> kilbith: well there is one ISO for the whole world so....
[16:33] <kilbith> tgm4883, then this package should only be installed for the chinese/japanese
[16:33] <tgm4883> kilbith: TBH, I'm not completely worried about 75MB
[16:33] <tgm4883> kilbith: but if you want to really find out, you can see who added it in the change log and ask them
[16:34] <tgm4883> kilbith: it's a recommends to the ubuntu-desktop package, so my assumption would be that it just installs all recommends
[16:34] <tgm4883> (IIRC, recommends are on by default)
[16:34] <TGVoid> I'm having a problem when I did a quicksearch in Testdisk. This is what's happening: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18031657/
[16:34] <kilbith> tgm4883, you don't download 75 MB only one, there are also the updates...
[16:34] <kilbith> *one time
[16:34] <Edico> hi
[16:35] <tgm4883> kilbith: I would bet that package hardly ever gets updated during a release
[16:35] <kilbith> i remember having updated this package a bunch of times
[16:36] <Edico> is there a good application for .flv and .swf file in firefox?
[16:36] <Edico> to open .flv and .swf files
[16:36] <kilbith> there's an ubuntu developement channel on freenode ?
[16:37] <tgm4883> kilbith: well I only see it getting updated twice in trusty
[16:37] <tgm4883> kilbith: #ubuntu-devel
[16:37] <kilbith> ah, thanks
[16:38] <tgm4883> kilbith: but I've already told you to find out who to ask
[16:38] <kilbith> i don't really who to ask exactly
[16:38] <kilbith> +know
[16:39] <tgm4883> kilbith: try #ubuntu-devel then
[16:39] <kilbith> will do
[16:40] <OerHeks> kilbith, if you read some chinese japanese korean webpage/ text in your browser, you would want this package. else you come here and complain about weird characters
[16:41] <OerHeks> whats the fuzz about, i wonder
[16:42] <TGVoid> I'm having a problem when I did a quicksearch in Testdisk. This is what's happening: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18031657/
[16:42] <kilbith> OerHeks, i don't see why i would want this package when i abslutely don't read chinese
[16:43] <kilbith> as most of West people
[16:43] <nacc> generalize much? :)
[16:44] <tgm4883> nacc: I don't think that's a far off generalization
[16:44] <nacc> tgm4883: no, but never seeing a single chinese character in any format?
[16:45] <tgm4883> nacc: TBF, you have to get the character somehow (browser, email, etc) and care what it is
[16:46] <OerHeks> You will see when you don't have access to chinese/japanese/korean fonts...
[16:46] <OerHeks> anyway, you are free to remove it, that is the fun-part.
[16:47] <nacc> tgm4883: true true
[16:47] <nacc> tgm4883: it seems better to err on the side of caution for displaying the internet :)
[16:48] <kilbith> even Fedora don't ship that package by default iirc
[16:48] <kilbith> nor Debian
[16:49] <nacc> why is that relevant?
[16:49] <b100s> hi2all
[16:49] <b100s> is there way to undo last update?
[16:49] <b100s> looks likes my wifi broken by it.
[16:50] <tgm4883> nacc: probably true, I can't really think of a better way to do it
[16:50] <kilbith> nacc, these are popular distros, there might have stronger reasons to not include it than on the ubuntu side
[16:50] <tgm4883> kilbith: just remove the package if you don't want it
[16:50] <nacc> tgm4883: yeah, it seems like a relatively hard problem to solve well, and it's easier to just leave it as-is :)
[16:50] <OerHeks> kilbith, lolz, fedora uses other package names, you are right https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Fonts
[16:50] <kilbith> i just want to convince you to do not ship it anymore out-of-the-box
[16:51] <EriC^^> TGVoid: how big is the harddisk?
[16:51] <OerHeks> so you are wrong, solved.
[16:51] <tgm4883> kilbith: you're making the assumption that the other distros are doing it right and ubuntu is doing it wrong ;)
[16:51] <nacc> kilbith: you have failed to convince here or in #ubuntu-devel, afaict
[16:51] <cjch> anybody here ?
[16:51] <tgm4883> cjch: really?
[16:51] <TGVoid> EriC^^: The image is 977.5 GB
[16:51] <OerHeks> b100s, what wifi device?
[16:51] <EriC^^> TGVoid: the actual hard disk was 1gb?
[16:51] <EriC^^> *1tb
[16:52] <kilbith> tgm4883, i said : "it _might_ have stronger reasons to do not include it"
[16:52] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Yes
[16:52] <b100s> OerHeks, how can i get it?
[16:52] <HankTheAi> Hello,
[16:52] <EriC^^> TGVoid: did you try the deep search?
[16:52] <tgm4883> kilbith: but you were wrong, they do include it
[16:52] <HankTheAi> I am wanting to use the Intel ® X99 Express Chipset with RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 built into my new mobo.
[16:52] <kilbith> ah sorry, mistunderstood the word "assumption"
[16:53] <b100s> OerHeks, DONE :) it was real hard locked )))))))
[16:53] <HankTheAi> however, it is designed to work with Windows OS and the Intel Rapid Storage Technology 13 support.
[16:53] <HankTheAi> obviously Intel Rapid Storage is not supported native in Linux.
[16:53] <TGVoid> EriC^^: You told me to use the EFI search andthe "partition can't be recovered" error appeared. The only option is "continue".
[16:53] <fennesz> Hello! Can someone help me with rtorrent ? from rutorrent I get : No connection to rTorrent. Check if it is really running
[16:53] <OerHeks> b100s, oh good, have fun!
[16:53] <HankTheAi> what is the best way to leverage the optimal performance of the X99 onboard RAID.
[16:53] <HankTheAi> ?
[16:53] <EriC^^> TGVoid: press continue
[16:54] <TGVoid> EriC^^: There's P MS Data and P Mac HFS
[16:54] <HankTheAi> or is there possibly any support for Intel Rapid Storage on Ubuntu?
[16:55] <HankTheAi> I would like to see if one of my drives fails or has any issues from the OS level, and not having to check it from the BIOS/boot level.
[16:55] <HankTheAi> even better would be to get some sort of warning in Ubuntu, similar to how Intel Rapid Storage works in Windows.
[16:56] <HankTheAi> in the past I have been able to see a failing drive in a RAID 10 and replace it quickly before any data loss occured.
[16:56] <kilbith> is it possible to convince you to drop Mir and return back to Wayland ? :]
[16:56] <HankTheAi> any help here is much appreciated, to just point me in the best direction.
[16:56] <EriC^^> TGVoid: how large is the MS DATA
[16:57] <nacc> HankTheAi: cursory googling so far, but it seems like Intel has done some Linux support for RST
[16:57] <TGVoid> EriC^^: 1371984
[16:57] <nacc> HankTheAi: dunno how good or bad it is
[16:57] <nacc> HankTheAi: and unclear if you need a drvier from them or not
[16:57] <HankTheAi> nacc: thanks buddy!
[16:57] <EriC^^> TGVoid: at the bottom, how much GB ?
[16:57] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: seems like you want mdadm
[16:57] <tgm4883> !info mdadm
[16:57] <HankTheAi> I am digging through the super long mobo manual.
[16:57] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: per http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/boards-and-kits/000006040.html
[16:57] <HankTheAi> it does not mention anything about Linux of course. ;-)
[16:58] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It only shows HFS. It's 753 GB
[16:58] <nacc> HankTheAi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87979/configure-mdadm-for-existing-intel-rapid-storage-array
[16:58] <EriC^^> TGVoid: is the ms data highlighted right now?
[16:58] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Nope. MS Data is 702 MB
[16:59] <DArqueBishop> HankTheAi: if the drives support SMART, you can use smartmontools to do SMART hardware checks of the drives.
[16:59] <HankTheAi> tgm4883: have you used mdadm before?
[16:59] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: I have not
[16:59] <EriC^^> TGVoid: ok, use the right arrow to get a "P" next to it then press continue
[16:59] <HankTheAi> I was hoping to find others using it in this channel.
[16:59]  * DArqueBishop uses mdadm but not with RST on his VM host server.
[16:59] <EriC^^> TGVoid: actually, press "p" over it and see the files in it
[16:59] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: mostly because I don't need RAID for my home boxes, and my work boxes use actual RAID cards
[16:59] <TGVoid> EriC^^: MS data?
[16:59] <Pici> HankTheAi: #ubuntu-server might be a better place to inquire
[17:00] <EriC^^> TGVoid: yeah
[17:00] <TGVoid> EriC^^: "Support for this filesystem hasn't been implemented."
[17:00] <HankTheAi> do most people setup a separate NAS or storage server box?
[17:00] <EriC^^> over ms data? try over hfs
[17:01] <HankTheAi> I can't really afford to upgrade more boxes, and this new X99 motherboard has an onboard RAID controller so I thought I would give that a go first.
[17:01] <TGVoid> EriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/18037126/
[17:02] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try deeper search
[17:02] <HankTheAi> tgm4883: thanks, I will do some more Googling. I need to first understand how good the support is for Intel Rapid Storage (LINUX)
[17:02] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: I don't. I don't need high availability for my home stuff
[17:02] <HankTheAi> my main concern is if it is updated etc...
[17:02] <nacc> HankTheAi: aiui, that RAID controller is fake RAID
[17:03] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Alright. See you in a while
[17:03] <tgm4883> I'm not sure many people need high availability at home, but I'm sure they exist. Home businesses maybe
[17:03] <EriC^^> TGVoid: let it run for like 1min then press enter
[17:03] <HankTheAi> I find that many of these kind of Windows bloat wares that come on all Windows PC's are usually not too well supported for Linux. Most of them do not even have a Linux version, and that makes sense because there are usually much better alternatives built into the Linux core.
[17:04] <HankTheAi> I am surprised that Intel has an official Intel Rapid Storage project.
[17:04] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: out of curiosity, why are you setting up raid anyway?
[17:04] <HankTheAi> my bigger question is what kind of drive formatting I should use.
[17:04] <TGVoid> Hey CodeMouse92! Thanks for your help yesterday!
[17:04] <HankTheAi> I will bring that topic over to Ubuntu server channel.
[17:04] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Only Mac HFS
[17:04] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Hi there. No problem. How'd it work out?
[17:04] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: We're still working on it
[17:04] <HankTheAi> RAID?
[17:05] <HankTheAi> why would I not setup RAID is the better question. ;-)
[17:05] <HankTheAi> is there another way to protect data and automatically spread it across multiple drives?
[17:05] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: backups?
[17:05] <HankTheAi> data protection is the main reason for RAID
[17:05] <HankTheAi> performance is the second reason.
[17:05] <HankTheAi> but I am not concerned with performance in this case.
[17:05] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: whoa, no. Data protection is not the main reason for RAID
[17:05] <TGVoid> HankTheAi: There's RAID 1 with copies data from 1 drive to another
[17:05] <HankTheAi> there are much better options for storage performance these days.
[17:06] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: The main reason for RAID is high availability
[17:06] <HankTheAi> yeah so I don't really need the (0) for speed.
[17:06] <HankTheAi> the (1) is for dedup
[17:06] <HankTheAi> I used 10 in the past to get both combined.
[17:07] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: um. RAID 1 isn't dedup. It's the opposite
[17:07] <tgm4883> it's. completedup
[17:07] <EriC^^> TGVoid: was the hdd ever used on a mac?
[17:07] <HankTheAi> might just use another level of RAID but with the new X99 mobo I got, there are so many new factors to consider.
[17:07] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Never
[17:07] <HankTheAi> yes, so I have a monster system, and I don't want to run another box just for storage.
[17:08] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: how about considering RAID isn't a replacement for proper backups
[17:08] <EriC^^> TGVoid: ok, try to run the deeper search for longer and see if you get any partitions that look like they could be the one
[17:08] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Only Windows 8.1 and 10. The only other OS I used was Ubuntu on a USB
[17:08] <HankTheAi> I could setup Ubuntu Server and a dedicated server for storage on another box, but that seems overkill.
[17:08] <EriC^^> TGVoid: do you remember the partition sizes?
[17:08] <HankTheAi> I do a lot of 3D design type work.
[17:08] <EriC^^> C:\
[17:08] <HankTheAi> so I want to keep my files as close to the M.2 SSD as possible.
[17:08] <TGVoid> EriC^^: No. I copied only 1 partition
[17:08] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: nobody said you needed a second box...
[17:08] <HankTheAi> network will be the bottleneck
[17:09] <tatertots> Hank have you configured RAID on your new computer yet?
[17:09] <HankTheAi> I mean if I make a NAS
[17:09] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Imaged*
[17:09] <tatertots> which one will you configure
[17:09] <EriC^^> TGVoid: you did if=/dev/sdb1 instead of /dev/sdb?
[17:09] <HankTheAi> so with on board RAID, I can use my RAID to keep my 3D assets right there in the same workstation tower.
[17:09] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: you can do that without RAID as well
[17:09] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Yeah
[17:10] <nacc> HankTheAi: but i don't think the x99 chipset is "on board RAID" in the way you are suggesting; it's fake-RAID (bios-assisted)
[17:10] <HankTheAi> tgm4883: actually my intention is to use the RAID for my backups.
[17:10] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Except I used /dev/sda4
[17:10] <EriC^^> TGVoid: testdisk isn't going to help i guess then
[17:10] <HankTheAi> and to keep my files there too.
[17:10] <EriC^^> TGVoid: testdisk looks for lost partitions in a disk
[17:11] <HankTheAi> I could not afford the M.2 1TB SSD lol
[17:11] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: Wait. You're going to keep your main files, and your backups on the same RAID setup?
[17:11] <HankTheAi> and even still I have about 1500GB of files
[17:11] <HankTheAi> 3D assets, architectural and engineering libraries.
[17:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[17:11] <EriC^^> TGVoid: nevermind, i think it might be able to fix stuff too
[17:11] <HankTheAi> the files can get heavy
[17:11] <HankTheAi> very heavy
[17:12] <HankTheAi> I feel so lost with so much "new tech" in this X99 system I upgraded to.
[17:12] <HankTheAi> can't complain
[17:12] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: are you talking just to talk?
[17:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> HankTheAi, new tech such as?
[17:12] <HankTheAi> but I was using a Xeon X5550 (dual cpu) workstation since 2009. Amazing that I actually did not need to upgrade until recently.
[17:12] <tatertots> tgm4883 i think hank is talking just to talk
[17:12] <tatertots> lol
[17:13] <tatertots> Hank says he's used raid in the past but yet he feels lost with the technology lol
[17:13] <tatertots> hmm
[17:13] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Should I run a quicksearch using the Intel filesystem?
[17:13] <HankTheAi> Intel ® X99 Express Chipset with RAID 0, 1, 5, 10, and Intel
[17:13] <HankTheAi> Rapid Storage Technology 13 support:
[17:14] <maddawg2> damn i really am hating the later versions of ubuntu
[17:14] <HankTheAi> ummm, already mentioned M.2 SSD
[17:14] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Or should I run it using "none?"
[17:14] <bmurphy1976> I'm really struggling to build an ubuntu 16.04 image that boots on amazon ec2 c3.large instance type (c3.xlarge is perfectly fine!!).  Where can I go to get help with this?
[17:14] <maddawg2> always finding damn bugs in the desktop environment
[17:14] <HankTheAi> that is the latest storage tech AFAIK
[17:14] <HankTheAi> Ie. "new tech"
[17:14] <maddawg2> for example... clicking on view-->as list does not view folder as list all the time
[17:14] <HankTheAi> and I was not talking just to talk...
[17:14] <maddawg2> keeps just showing them as icons
[17:15] <HankTheAi> I guess I need to do more research and testing on my own.
[17:15] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: then you should probably at least respond to the people talking to you
[17:15] <tatertots> I agree hank
[17:15] <tatertots> i agree
[17:15] <HankTheAi> the system I run as my production environment is not the norm.
[17:15] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: considering many of the things you said are generally are bad ideas
[17:15] <HankTheAi> I am using GPU PCI-e passthrough for Windows OS
[17:15] <HankTheAi> with Ubuntu as the Host OS.
[17:16] <fennesz> Hello ! Can someone tell why my external drive (ext4) is constantly spinning ? The led also blinks constantly
[17:16] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: There is nothing you said that is super special
[17:16] <Tin_man> OMG, ok HankTheAi we got it..
[17:16] <HankTheAi> so actually, I am trying to figure out a way to use the M.2 SSD on the X99 platform to cache all data to the faster storage and then automatically offload it the slower RAID (spinning disks)
[17:16] <maddawg2> my laptop and desktpp both have m.2 ssd
[17:17] <Tin_man> i'm running a brand new (to me) 6 old dell 2 core..
[17:17] <ikonia> HankTheAi: bcache ?
[17:17] <HankTheAi> but I did not want anyone's mind to explode by asking how to do that.
[17:17] <HankTheAi> lol
[17:17] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: on board raid, not special. 1500GB of files, not special. M.2 SSD, not special. Caching on SSD and offload to rust, not special
[17:18] <HankTheAi> tgm4883: what did I say that is a bad idea to implement?
[17:18] <HankTheAi> what exactly?
[17:18] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: we'd be happy to help, but you just need to state what you want to do and listen us when we tell you stuff
[17:18] <HankTheAi> I did not say anything I am doing is special...
[17:18] <HankTheAi> anyways...
[17:18] <HankTheAi> what did I say that is a "bad idea?"
[17:18] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: specifically. You said you were going to keep your backups and main files on the same RAID
[17:19] <HankTheAi> ah I see...
[17:19] <HankTheAi> I apologize, for not stating that clearly.
[17:19] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: before that, you said that you were using RAID for data protection
[17:19] <HankTheAi> I generally work off the SSD.
[17:20] <HankTheAi> what do you suggest then?
[17:20] <HankTheAi> I do not see another option.
[17:20] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: not a bad idea, but you also said that RAID 1 was for dedup
[17:20] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: proper backups are the other option for data protection
[17:20] <HankTheAi> with 256GB of SSD, I can't put all of my working files there and then backup only to the RAID.
[17:21] <HankTheAi> I am also using other drives to backup...I am not an idiot as you and others are implying.
[17:21] <nacc> HankTheAi: as ikonia just said, bcache does what you want. No one's mind has been exploded, because it's already something exists.
[17:21] <HankTheAi> I use cloud storage
[17:21] <HankTheAi> and I also have several external drives as well.
[17:21] <tatertots> OMG "cloud"
[17:21] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: I'm not implying anything, I'm referencing exactly what you said
[17:21] <SchrodingersScat> chill out, we're trying to help
[17:21] <tatertots> like in the sky
[17:21] <tatertots> :-)
[17:21] <tatertots> :-0
[17:21] <HankTheAi> I would never fully trust a software RAID as my only backup source.
[17:22] <HankTheAi> that would be idiotic, and I can see why you are thinking I am an idiot.
[17:22] <tatertots> fake raid is blah
[17:22] <tatertots> if your data was important as you think it is you'd use a real raid controler
[17:22] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: you should use bcache with your RAID for speed, then have proper backups. Although the raid there would be just personal preference
[17:23] <snkcld> im having issues connecting to my bluetooth headset. i was able to pair successfully, and in the menu bar it says "Connection on" for the headset toggle, but the headset does not show up in my volume settings for outputs
[17:23] <HadesWatch3r34> hey
[17:23] <ikonia> I'd question how much speed you really need
[17:23] <HankTheAi> maybe I should spend a lot more money on a PCI-e raid card, but that is too expensive to my use-case for other reasons...PCI slots.
[17:23] <Archives> Hi friends, I need a small help in Ubuntu
[17:23] <tgm4883> tatertots: there isn't anything especially wrong with the on board raid, although you are possibly right
[17:23] <HankTheAi> I use all my PCI-e slots for double-wide GPU's.
[17:24] <HankTheAi> I don't really need super fast storage in this use-case.
[17:24] <HankTheAi> I just need decent storage in the same box.
[17:24] <nacc> snkcld: i've had that happen before with pulse, if you run `pulseaudio -k` does it show up after pulse restarts?
[17:24] <tgm4883> ikonia: he mentioned 3d files, which can be large. although loading them is possibly still going to take a while depending on if it's in cache or not
[17:24] <Archives> Can anyone tell me how to configure screen-locks when the laptop lid is closed in Ubuntu.
[17:24] <Archives> I have tried a dozen of solutions but nothing seems to work, and I am totally a newbie in Ubuntu.
[17:24] <Archives> I have a HP laptop. I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.
[17:24] <snkcld> nacc: ah, ok, let me try
[17:24] <HankTheAi> why is RAID via the on-board controller not good enough?
[17:25] <ztane> anyone here having problems with ktorrent somehow stalling in unity?
[17:25] <ztane> or knowing the solution to it
[17:25] <Archives> Besides, I have disc-crypt lock/password (I guess this is what some Ubuntu users call it but I'm sure)- which is when I turn-on the laptop, I am asked for a password after the Boot phase.
[17:25] <HankTheAi> that is what I have used for the last several years and never had any issues that I would not also have with dedicated RAID cards, or other alternatives.
[17:25] <HankTheAi> the only issues I have had is with failing drives.
[17:25] <HankTheAi> in the RAID 10.
[17:26] <HankTheAi> so how would bcache improve my setup?
[17:26] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: I think mdadm would probably be fine for your use case
[17:26] <HankTheAi> spinning disks are spinning disks.
[17:26] <nacc> HankTheAi: you asked a very specific question earlier; how to have your SSD cache for your spinning disks
[17:26] <nacc> HankTheAi: bcache is what does that.
[17:26] <tatertots> mdadm is really fun to use also
[17:26] <HankTheAi> still the best solution for having 2TB of duplicated storage, or am I wrong?
[17:26] <sam_tunder> what is the bash command for trimming an ssd?
[17:27] <HankTheAi> software raid, raid card, or other setup is still going to run on spinning disks regardless.
[17:27] <snkcld> nacc: doesnt seem to help. i think the headset is having problems connecting over bluetooth. theres a lot of interference here from other devices and wifi
[17:27] <HankTheAi> I am really confused as to what the confusion is.
[17:27] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: bcache in front of your RAID
[17:27] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Hello?
[17:27] <HankTheAi> I simply was asking about the best solution for RAID on Ubuntu.
[17:27] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: that is what we are suggested (or I am anyway)
[17:28] <tatertots> Hank it sounds like you're still in the "conceptual" or "dreaming" phase of your setup...have you actually setup a raid array yet?
[17:28] <HankTheAi> nacc, no I did not ask that question.
[17:28] <nacc> HankTheAi: there are different guarantees (and resiliency in terms of cache and power failure) with on-board RAID and dedicated cards
[17:28] <HankTheAi> I said that I have set that up in the past.
[17:28] <tgm4883> tatertots: he's mentioned that he has setup other RAID setups
[17:28] <nacc> sigh
[17:28] <HankTheAi> I actually said, I am purposely not asking that question about caching.
[17:28] <nacc> "10:16 < HankTheAi> so actually, I am trying to figure out a way to use the M.2
[17:28] <nacc>                    SSD on the X99 platform to cache all data to the faster
[17:28] <nacc>                    storage and then automatically offload it the slower RAID
[17:28] <nacc>                    (spinning disks)
[17:28] <nacc> "
[17:28] <HankTheAi> I am using M.2 right now
[17:29] <HankTheAi> my Ubuntu install is running on it
[17:29] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: you most certainly did 12 minutes ago
[17:29] <HankTheAi> and that is how I am talking to you guys lol
[17:29] <HankTheAi> nope
[17:29] <HankTheAi> wrong
[17:29] <HankTheAi> blah
[17:29] <HankTheAi> lol
[17:29] <HankTheAi> I was asking about Intel Rapid Storage
[17:29] <HankTheAi> if that is a good idea on Ubuntu
[17:29] <HankTheAi> or if there might be a better solution
[17:30] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: you were just quoted by nacc. We all have it in our backlog
[17:30] <HankTheAi> but now that we are talking about SSD caching...
[17:30] <HankTheAi> maybe I should reconsider my entire setup.
[17:30] <ikonia> HankTheAi: probably better if we cut to the chase and you just asked a clear question
[17:30]  * nacc apologizes for the paste, too hasty on my part
[17:30] <tgm4883> ikonia: +1
[17:30] <ikonia> nacc: it happens, don't break a sweat
[17:30] <tgm4883> nacc: no worries, I was going back to grab it too. You were just faster
[17:31] <nacc> heh
[17:31] <HankTheAi> I will state for the record, so I do not get attacked further that I think using Intel Rapid Storage seems like a bad idea.
[17:31] <HankTheAi> even if they support Linux and have a driver for it.
[17:31] <HankTheAi> let me rephrase, I always try to use what is built into the current LTS kernel support.
[17:31] <HankTheAi> Ie. KVM vs. Xen
[17:31] <tatertots> Hank so you have your OS on the SSD...and you haven't actually configured a raid yet with your other drives?
[17:31] <HankTheAi> Mir vs. Wayland.
[17:32] <nacc> HankTheAi: "Intel Matrix RAID, Intel Rapid RAID, and Intel Smart Response Technology, are together described as Intel Rapid Storage Technology.", it's just a branding thing, afaict
[17:32] <ikonia> HankTheAi: what's your question
[17:32] <ikonia> just state it clear
[17:32] <HankTheAi> my company is partnered with Canonical and I have invested a lot into the LTS releases.
[17:32] <tgm4883> ikonia: he's been like this the entire time
[17:32] <HankTheAi> FYI
[17:32] <tatertots> you should get on with setting up that raid and let us know if you have problems
[17:32] <ikonia> it's going to end
[17:32] <HankTheAi> haha
[17:32] <ikonia> HankTheAi: just state your question, your commentory isn't needed
[17:33] <tatertots> you are obviously using it without raid right now...why not just continue using it as is...since you feel so lost with the technology
[17:33] <HankTheAi> I feel so lost with technology?
[17:33] <HankTheAi> lol
[17:33] <tatertots> that what you said
[17:33] <HankTheAi> go eat some more tots.
[17:33] <HankTheAi> I love tatter tots btw.
[17:33] <ikonia> HankTheAi: enough now
[17:33] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: please clearly state your question
[17:33] <ikonia> HankTheAi: ask a question or please stop talking
[17:34] <tatertots> you don't love me hank
[17:34] <tatertots> lol
[17:34] <ikonia> tatertots: please don't ad to this
[17:34] <ikonia> add
[17:34] <HankTheAi> nope
[17:34] <HankTheAi> subtract
[17:35]  * tgm4883 tips our local ops
[17:36] <craigbass76> Is there a way to find all directories owned by so and so? I just want directories, not files. I don't see any kindof switch in the man page for find that looks likely
[17:36] <EriC^^> craigbass76: find -type d -user <user>
[17:37] <craigbass76> EriC^^, Bah... should have kept going down the man page before I asked...
[17:40] <craigbass76> EriC^^, Weird... I can run find / -name arial.ttf but can't run find / -type d user craig    I get paths must precede expression
[17:40] <EriC^^> -user
[17:40] <craigbass76> EriC^^, Neverming -- missed the dash
[17:42] <Archives> so much noise on this channel
[17:45] <akik> !quietirc
[17:49] <Guest79646> how to I set a username?
[17:49] <computer> what is the channel for raspberry pi?
[17:49] <silver-dragon> never mind
[17:50] <jatt> computer: the channel for raspberry pi is #raspberrypi
[17:50] <computer> jatt: thanks
[17:50] <jatt> 😺
[17:53] <nRy2> what is bcache?
[17:53] <nRy2> is it a bad idea to use it on the same system with a software RAID?
[17:54] <nRy2> #ubuntu, anyone home?
[17:55] <nacc> nRy2: did you try doing some research about bcache yourself?
[17:55] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Hello?
[17:55] <EriC^^> TGVoid: hey
[17:55] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Should I run a quicksearch using the Intel filesystem?
[17:55] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Or should I run it using "none?"
[17:55] <DJones> nRy2: Never heard of bcache before but a quick search pointed me towards https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Bcache
[17:56] <nRy2> DJones: thanks
[17:56] <specialedge> Djones: can you tell me how to google a solution for my problem?
[17:56] <nRy2> me too
[17:56] <EriC^^> TGVoid: i'm not sure about the format it's using with ddrescue, anyways try Intel maybe
[17:57] <nRy2> has anyone here actually tried Intel Rapid Storage on Ubuntu?
[17:57] <nRy2> I tried to ask this question and apparently annoyed several people.
[17:58] <nacc> nRy2: there is some discussion here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/308481/howto-run-ubuntu-with-uefi-and-intel-smart-response-technology
[17:58] <nRy2> so I will go back to my original question that was still never answered...
[17:58] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I already did a quick search and it saved
[17:58] <nRy2> Ubuntu, Intel Rapid Storage; could anyone here please kindly, with sugar on top let me know if they have tried it?
[17:58] <EriC^^> TGVoid: ok try fdisk -l /image
[17:59]  * tgm4883 points out that this is the support channel and just asking if someone has tried something is generally frowned upon
[17:59] <nRy2> okay, so I guess this Channel is full of Googling experts, but other than that is pretty much useless.
[17:59] <nacc> nRy2: you've consistently ignored what i've asked or said -- but Intel RST is a windows-only thing (afaict).
[17:59] <TGVoid> EriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/18041402/
[17:59] <nRy2> Don't try to ask a real question, or you will be punted fast.
[18:00] <nRy2> nacc: ignore
[18:00] <nacc> nRy2: but i also pointed you to http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/intelligent-systems/software/rst-linux-paper.html
[18:00] <nRy2> yes thanks nacc
[18:00] <nRy2> I already used Google today too.
[18:00] <specialedge> nRy2: when someone doesn't immediately respond to a question, it is likely that those who read the question do not have a positive answer for you
[18:00] <nRy2> but thanks for Googling my question.
[18:00] <nRy2> actually my question, was always the same.
[18:00] <django_> hey
[18:01] <django_> i have 2 attached screens how do i access them?
[18:01] <nRy2> it's fine if no one knows the answer,
[18:01] <nRy2> has anyone used it?
[18:01] <nRy2> just a bunch of know it all using Google.
[18:01] <specialedge> nRy2: another alternative could be that someone who can answer the question has not yet read it, for any of a variety of reasons
[18:01] <nRy2> and I get punted for that BS.
[18:01] <nRy2> haha
[18:01] <EriC^^> TGVoid: how big is the image file?
[18:01] <nRy2> I am now wondering if I should stop investing my company's recourse into Ubuntu.
[18:02] <nRy2> and let canonical know about how lame people are on this channel.
[18:02] <tgm4883> nRy2: this is the wrong channel for making threats
[18:02] <nRy2> haha, threat?
[18:02] <nRy2> what?
[18:02] <zooom> hello, how do i re-map the keyboard    eg:  a -->  d
[18:02] <nRy2> I did not make any threats.
[18:02] <nRy2> wow
[18:02] <Dev_> Hi, I have a weird problem with sound card in Ubuntu 16.04. I have 2 options for the same sound card and jack in sound menu. First one is for 4.0, 5.1 and 7.1 sound. Second one its called "Headphones" but it's just the same jack and sound is stereo. I want stereo sound, but this "Headphones" option doesn't sound very good, it looks its customized for real headphones and quality is not very good.
[18:02] <nRy2> okay I will leave on my own now.
[18:02] <tgm4883> nRy2: and if you were truly doing that, you'd have contacts inside canonical to assist you
[18:02] <nRy2> because you are a such a child.
[18:02] <nRy2> get a life tgm3863
[18:02] <tgm4883> nRy2: well I am only 14
[18:03] <tatertots> nRy2 "companies" usually have IT departments with real IT people. Have you not consulted your companies IT
[18:03] <nRy2> makes more sense now.
[18:03] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try sudo mount -o loop /image /mnt
[18:03] <DJones> nRy2: If people don't konw the answer, generally they don't reply, obviously, this channel isn't a canonical channel, everybody here is a volunteer
[18:03] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It's 977.5 GB
[18:03] <Dev_> this doesn't happened on Ubuntu 14.04. I had an "Analog Stereo Output" option and the sound was great
[18:03] <tatertots> i suggest you do so...they are there for a reason you know
[18:03] <nRy2> it's more of the attitude of some people here that I am finding very childish.
[18:04] <nRy2> does not matter how old you are, you can always choose to act however you want.
[18:04] <nRy2> I was attacked first by a few of you saying stuff such as...
[18:04] <nRy2> I am confused by technology.
[18:04] <specialedge> nry2: perhaps an opportunity to look within has presented itself
[18:04] <nRy2> and rude remarks along those lines.
[18:04] <nRy2> grow up
[18:04] <tgm4883> nRy2: this is the support channel, if you are having a problem with your hardware we'd be happy to help. but questions such as "has anyone used this" is generally frowned upon in this channel
[18:05] <nRy2> hardware?
[18:05] <nRy2> this channel supports hardware too?
[18:05] <TGVoid> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18041825/
[18:05] <nRy2> last time I checked Ubuntu was 100% software based.
[18:05] <tgm4883> nRy2: perhaps you prefer i use "hardware support"
[18:05] <nRy2> maybe some of you so called channel admins are confused about technology. lol
[18:05] <dax> oh, that's HankTheAi, fun.
[18:05] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try dmesg | tail
[18:05] <nacc> dax: thanks
[18:05] <tgm4883> dax: yep, same guy
[18:06] <EriC^^> TGVoid: how big was the partition you copied?
[18:06] <tatertots> yeah the fake raid was a dead give away that it was old Hank
[18:07] <tgm4883> I'm legit trying to help the guy
[18:07]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[18:07] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It brought up a bunch of stuff
[18:07] <EriC^^> TGVoid: pastebin them
[18:07] <EriC^^> also how big was the partition you copied?
[18:08] <TGVoid> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18042100/
[18:10] <neverever> Hi, I need helping launching an application I just installed
[18:11] <TGVoid> EriC^^: The image is 977.5 GB
[18:12] <neverever> Here is my problem, I just installed a program called strodinger. I know that it has been installed, but I am unsure of how to open it.
[18:14] <nacc> neverever: how did you install it?
[18:15] <neverever> nacc: We unpacked a file,
[18:16] <neverever> nacc: it was installed via mastero
[18:17] <tatertots> nevernever....was there a "read me" or any other documentation included with the file?
[18:17] <varaindemian> in ubuntu some packages get updates by defualt and others only if you add the ppa's?
[18:18] <mchelen2> varaindemian: they are all updated by default, if there are updates in the official repositories
[18:18] <neverever> nacc: I can write a more detailed description if you would like. We unpacked a file called Schrodinger_suites_2016.tar
[18:18] <varaindemian> or after staying some time in a ppa a package gets update?
[18:18] <neverever> nacc: we aren't really sure how to launch it after unpacking it
[18:18] <akik> neverever: you can see where it put files by "tar -tvf Schrodinger_suites_2016.tar". it's not installing per se
[18:18] <mchelen2> varaindemian: anyone can create a ppa, it's not necessarily tied to official repositories in any way
[18:19] <mchelen2> varaindemian: generally speaking, as software gets updated, it will eventually reach the official ubuntu repositories, but that takes time & depends on release cycles
[18:19] <ComMan> people, anyone knows how to use a cluster computer?
[18:20] <TGVoid> EriC^^:  Hello?
[18:20] <tatertots> oh boy
[18:20] <mchelen2> ComMan: thats a very broad subject. what type of cluster?
[18:20] <DJones> varaindemian: The official ubuntu repo's get security updates but not new versions, unofficial ppa's may have newer releases, but they're generally not supported outside of the ppa creator
[18:20] <ComMan> mchelen2: i have just built and setup a raspberry pi (3 node) cluster
[18:21] <varaindemian> mchelen2: so DE (kde plasma 5.7) will arrive to ubuntu after 6 months if does't have the ppa added?
[18:21] <mchelen2> ComMan: ok what software is it running?
[18:21] <ComMan> raspian
[18:21] <neverever> akik: okay I tried tar -tvf but i get the error, option requires an argument error
[18:21] <tatertots> isn't there a #rasberrypi channel
[18:22] <tatertots> someone posted it earlier i think
[18:22] <akik> neverever: "tar -tvf Schrodinger_suites_2016.tar"
[18:22] <mchelen2> varaindemian: i can't guarantee what version will be in a particular release. try searching in http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[18:22] <Backwards> Speaking of updates I have node -v   v5.11.1    There is the old nodejs and the new node.js    Would the old node version interfere with or is node.js <-----< .js in this case? I type node.js -V or --version and Ubuntu says it is not installed but node is.
[18:22] <akik> neverever: what you have done is just unpacking an archive file into your file system
[18:22] <mchelen2> ComMan: usually when people talk about cluster computing, they mean a particular parrelel processing framework. what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:23] <ComMan> mchelen2: i am trying to learn about cluster computing, which is why i built one to learn on it
[18:23] <mchelen2> Backwards: usually the executable is just "node" or "nodejs" i guess
[18:23] <mchelen2> ComMan: ok when you say "cluster computing" do you mean parrelel processing?
[18:24] <mchelen2> ComMan: like running a calculation that is split between all nodes
[18:24] <Backwards> I was reading that nodejs is the older version of node.js
[18:24] <ComMan> mchelen2: yes
[18:24] <mchelen2> Backwards: the executable name doesn't tell you a lot, the -v is what to look at
[18:26] <Backwards> I see. I am working on installing qwebirc or kiwiirc and it requires the latest node version. I believe I have the latest version. I was just confounded by Ubuntu tells me to apt-get node.js
[18:26] <mchelen2> ComMan: ok so there are a bunch of different approaches to check out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_cluster#Some_implementations
[18:26] <neverever> akik: Okay, so I followed some online instructions for installing this package.
[18:26] <nacc> Backwards: in ubuntu, the two commands are node and nodejs. node is the legacy command (provided by nodejs-legacy).
[18:26] <EriC^^> TGVoid: one sec
[18:26] <EriC^^> reading the log
[18:26] <Backwards> Thanks Nacc.
[18:27] <EriC^^> TGVoid: after the mount command nothing extra is being added at the bottom?
[18:27] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try sudo mount -o loop -t ntfs-3g /image /mnt
[18:27] <akik> neverever: did you find the application?
[18:28] <Backwards> Nacc, I didn't know with Ubuntu that legacy commands are interchangeable with the new.
[18:28] <nacc> Backwards: afaict, `node` ends up just being a wrapper for nodejs. But not 100%
[18:28] <EriC^^> TGVoid: it may be ntfs not ntfs-3g
[18:29] <ComMan> mchelen2: ok i am starting to get it, i am using MPI
[18:29] <mchelen2> yeah i think so, the old workaround was to symlink node to point to nodejs
[18:29] <mchelen2> ComMan: ok cool, yeah i think thats a popular one
[18:30] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It shows me usage
[18:30] <ComMan> excellent, learned something today :-)
[18:30] <Backwards> Mchelen2 thanks for that point as well.
[18:31] <EriC^^> TGVoid: must be a typo
[18:31] <SirSlippers> HoWdY!!
[18:31] <SirSlippers> Anybody home?
[18:31] <Bashing-om> !ask | SirSlippers
[18:32] <Hulkie> Jordan_U: that's the debian bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=664713 <<- i have the same error on Ubuntu, can someone help, please?
[18:33] <TGVoid> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18043869/
[18:33] <SirSlippers> Xubuntu Install problems ... monitor shuts off after a few seconds in install and OUT OF RANGE error no screen ... nothing else
[18:33] <neverever> akik: So we have installed the application, opened it, and then we closed it and we have no idea how to open it again
[18:34] <EriC^^> TGVoid: can you run chkdsk on it from windows?
[18:34] <Bashing-om> SirSlippers: What release are you installing .. and have you tried " nomodeset " as a boot option ?
[18:34] <akik> neverever: 1) tar -tvf Schrodinger_suites_2016.tar 2) go into the same directory where you unpacked the tar 3) the output from 1) will be in that directory
[18:34] <TGVoid> EriC^^: How? I only have the image
[18:34] <nacc> Hulkie: where are you seeing a failure?
[18:35] <neverever> akik: This is obviously a really stupid question. We aren't that familiar with Ubuntu. We sat down installed the thing, then opened it, then closed it, and now we can't find it
[18:35] <TGVoid> EriC^^: The drive is gone
[18:35] <Hulkie> nacc, in eggdrop's dcc, when i read errorInfo variable.
[18:35] <nacc> Hulkie: sorry, i meant which version of Ubuntu?
[18:35] <EriC^^> TGVoid: http://superuser.com/questions/615683/perform-a-chkdsk-on-an-ntfs-image
[18:35] <Hulkie> nacc, 12
[18:36] <SirSlippers> ok ... I am a newbie ... I don't understand your question ... V14.4 Xubuntu ...
[18:36] <neverever> akik: ok thank you so much. I will try that right now.
[18:36] <nacc> Hulkie: that particular debian bug only refers to building against versions of openssl that are not yet packaged in Ubuntu (afaict)
[18:36] <Hulkie> nacc: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[18:36] <akik> neverever: of course if you unpacked it in some other way it could be elsewhere. can you paste the url for the document you followed?
[18:36] <TGVoid> EriC^^: So I need to mount it to Windows?
[18:36] <nacc> Hulkie: not even in Debian unstable yet, so can't be your bug, afaict
[18:36] <Hulkie> nacc, is therte any way i can fix?
[18:37] <Hulkie> uhm
[18:37] <EriC^^> TGVoid: yeah you need windows to fix ntfs
[18:37] <SirSlippers> "NOMODETEST" ??  where does that go?  How do I get to where I type that in?  What are the keystrokes to get there?
[18:37] <nacc> Hulkie: the corresponding Debian changelog specifically mentions openssl 1.1
[18:37] <Bashing-om> What we want is the see if it is a graphic's driver issue .. When booting "nomodeset" Kernel Mode Setting is diabled such that a lower level driver will be loaded .
[18:37] <varaindemian> from my understanding, the DE is part of the core system and its  stability is crucial therefore it won't get updates as often as other packages that are not part of the "core", right?
[18:38] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | SirSlippers
[18:38] <nacc> Hulkie: oh i see, there were two sets of changes that were made
[18:38] <neverever> akik: I am trying to figure out what someone else did. They will be back in around 30 min. Can they talk to you then?
[18:38] <akik> neverever: there will be people on #ubuntu to help you
[18:39] <SirSlippers> thankx ubottu .. but that's for version 10.0 ...
[18:39] <neverever> akik: actually they are here now
[18:39] <nacc> Hulkie: looks like it was fixed in 2.1.4-dfgs2-3 (and 12.04 has 2.1.4-dfgs-2build2)
[18:39] <nacc> Hulkie: i'd file an ubuntu bug if it's something you are actively seeing
[18:39] <nacc> !bug | Hulkie
[18:40] <varaindemian> Even python was out of date last time I checked
[18:40] <nacc> Hulkie: nm, already filed, i think, LP: #902645
[18:40] <Bashing-om> SirSlippers: ^^ also applies in 14.04. We want to know that you are able to boot to a GUIi . degraded graphics with nomodeset is acceptable . we can then look and see what the situation is .
[18:40] <nacc> !latest | varaindemian
[18:40] <Hulkie> nacc, so guess i have to change the OS, right?
[18:40] <akik> neverever: only you and the document you followed know where you unpacked it
[18:41] <SirSlippers> no I cant boot to GUI ... the screen goes black and all I see is a small tred bar with OUT OF RANGE on it
[18:41] <nacc> Hulkie: not necessarily (although 12.04 goes EOL relatively soon)
[18:41] <neverever> akik: we already installed everything and we were on the program but then we x'ed out to restart it and we don't know how to find it again
[18:42] <SirSlippers> Bashing=om ... WHERE do I put "NOMODETEST" ????
[18:42] <Bashing-om> SirSlippers: And what results in booting with the boot parameter "nomodeset" . to work around such issues ? until we can  do better .
[18:42] <akik> neverever: in which directory you unpacked the tar?
[18:42] <Hulkie> nacc, i have a vps, when i did a distro-upgrade got the same kernel because of the HOST's kernel, that's what i read @ google.
[18:42] <nacc> varaindemian: DE is part of the core graphical system, yes, but updates occur for security issues as necessary
[18:43] <nacc> Hulkie: hrm? why was that directed at me?
[18:43] <ccolorado> Hey I am getting this error when trying to install apache2 on ubuntu 14.04 machine. Any ideas ? http://pastebin.com/53RRgKnR
[18:43] <SirSlippers> HOW do I boot with the boot parameter "NOMODETEST"  ???
[18:43] <castro> i have problem update kernel ubuntu 14
[18:43] <akik> neverever: go into that directory and compare the filenames with the tar -tvf Schrodinger_suites_2016.tar output. your application will be there
[18:43] <Hulkie> nacc, is there a poit to upg distro if the kernel remains the same ?
[18:43] <Hulkie> point*
[18:44] <varaindemian> nacc: yeah, but what packages gets updates more often or how do you actually get packages updated?
[18:44] <nacc> Hulkie: i take it you're using containerized VPS?
[18:44] <varaindemian> for example firefox gets updates instantly
[18:44] <nacc> Hulkie: and yes, as the kernel is just one part of your distribution; and in the case of containerized VPS, you're not necessarily running the distribution's kernel
[18:44] <nacc> varaindemian: no it doesn't
[18:45] <Bashing-om> SirSlippers: Read thge tutorial provided . Ultimately, boot to the grub boot menu -> boot parameters screen, make the edit to the command line ; key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process.
[18:45] <varaindemian> nacc: I mean, more often
[18:45] <Hulkie> nacc, yeap KVM
[18:45] <SirSlippers> oh man ... the tutorial speaks from a learned position as do you ... HOW do I boot to the Grub boot?
[18:45] <castro> Algum BR meu ingles e muito ruim
[18:45] <Pici> !br | castro
[18:46] <Backwards> SirSlippers, what is the resolution of your monitor? What type of video card are you using? Have you tried another monitor in order to make things simpler?
[18:47] <SirSlippers> I have hit F12 ... started the install form DVD ... hit ESC to stiop the install and am now at a screen that hasa nice XUBUNTU logo on it plus "Try Ubuntu without ionstalling" and a list of F-keys at thebottom
[18:48] <SirSlippers> This is a Gem monitor  on an IBM Thinkpad with 2.5Ghz processor and 2 gigs ram on 400G hard drive ...
[18:48] <OerHeks> SirSlippers, now hit F6 and choose nomodeset
[18:48] <OerHeks> see bottompanel
[18:48] <Backwards> SirSlippers sometimes on an install, there is a screen saver. Move the mouse or hit the space bar to see if that works.
[18:48] <SirSlippers> Oerheks > thankx  THAT'S what I was looking for!
[18:49] <neverever> akik: thank you!!
[18:49] <akik> neverever: no problem. you said it yourself, this was very basic thing
[18:51] <SirSlippers> OK ... YES!!   the screen is not great graphics but now I can at least the Xubuntu 16.04 logo
[18:52] <nacc> varaindemian: that just means there were more bugs int he original version :)
[18:52] <nacc> Hulkie: KVM != containers
[18:52] <django_> when i do ls is there a way to pipe it with grep to only display thngs that start with h
[18:52] <SirSlippers> I've loaded Xubuntu 6.10 on it already and I want to delete that all and put this new version on ... I have a paclage called KXStudio that I want to run .. after install .. how do I get that installed?
[18:52] <Bashing-om> SirSlippers: Making good progress . .. Before we contine .. did you verify the .iso file download ?
[18:52] <nacc> Hulkie: if you did a dist-upgrade in a KVM guest and rebooted, you'd be able to switch the kernel (aiui). I guess maybe VPS don't let you do that, but I'm not sure and it'd be specific to the VPS
[18:53] <nacc> django_: ls | grep ^h ?
[18:53] <nacc> django_: might need quotes
[18:53] <EriC^^> django_:  or ls h*
[18:53] <Bashing-om> !info KXStudio
[18:53] <Backwards> SirSlippers I have had that problem a few times. If you move your mouse around the screen even in the corners of the screen you may find drop down menu or just right click mouse and look for video options. It couuld also be an old video card.
[18:53] <SirSlippers> Bashing-om: > ahhh .. I downloaded from my Windows machine and burnt the disk then used that on the ThinkCenter
[18:54] <Hulkie> nacc, im running an IRC server on a public network on that VPS, cannot update distro again.. but thank you
[18:54] <apb1963> what should I use to read PDF files?
[18:54] <apb1963> 14.04 LTS
[18:55] <SirSlippers> Backwards: > thankx ... I got the graphics desktop now
[18:55] <nacc> Hulkie: if you did dist-upgrad,e though, regardless of the kernel level, and rebooted, you shouldn't be seeing htat particular bug with 14.04 or later
[18:55] <Backwards> Good. Is your machine a 64 or 32 bit?
[18:55] <Bashing-om> SirSlippers: We want a confirmed install foundation .. in that boot menu is the option " check disk for defects" . choose it and what results after a period of time ?
[18:55] <nacc> apb1963: there's many options; evince, xpdf, etc
[18:56] <SirSlippers> Backwards: > its a 32 ... how do I tell if it installed this 14.4 to hard drive?
[18:56] <nacc> !pdf | apb1963
[18:56] <varaindemian> nacc: so unless I add ppas and the packages  I currently have don't issues I won't get updates, right?
[18:56] <OerHeks> Hulkie, VPS usually are heavily tweakes, ask your vendor for an update
[18:56] <apb1963> This document has XFA forms, which are currently unsupported, according to okular.
[18:56] <Backwards> Just reboot and you will know.
[18:56] <OerHeks> c/tweaked
[18:56] <apb1963> nacc: This document has XFA forms, which are currently unsupported, according to okular.
[18:57] <akik> apb1963: there's also foxit reader, also closed source
[18:57] <apb1963> nacc: evince, according to what I've read does not support XFA forms
[18:57] <Backwards> Also open up a terminal and type in ls -all
[18:58] <nacc> apb1963: ok, so you asked to read PDF files, what you emant was filling out XFA forms (for the future, ask the more precise question)
[18:58] <SirSlippers> Backwards:  > ok ... Windows lets you put in a disk and format the hard drive auuhghghg!!   It booted  back into V6.10  :-(
[18:58] <apb1963> nacc: sorry
[18:58] <nacc> apb1963: pdf edit seems to be somethjing some people use, but i'm not sure it's pacakaged
[18:59] <nacc> varaindemian: ppas are unrelated to getting updates, afaict
[18:59] <nacc> varaindemian: for released versions of Ubuntu, you'll get updates when bugs are fixed, etc
[18:59] <Backwards> If it is installed why format it?
[19:00] <varaindemian> nacc: hm then what are ppas?
[19:01] <nacc> !ppa | varaindemian
[19:01] <SirSlippers> Backwards:  < I wanta CLEAN install ... I used to be MSCE for Server 4 ... sloppy work is not my style!
[19:01] <Backwards> SirSlippers I have a 32 bit machine and installed Wily Ubuntu 15.10    The graphics are lousy. I run the box headless and SSH into the box.
[19:01] <SirSlippers> I have 4 diferent versions set up on here
[19:01] <nacc> varaindemian: i meant that having ppas enabled has nothing to do with the rate at which packages get updated, necessarily
[19:03] <SirSlippers> most of the packages I have don't work on Xubuntu 6.10  and there are other installs that were incomplete because of the problem with the monitor .. so I want to WIPE my hard drive and get a good clean install in there
[19:03] <Backwards> SirSlippers a nice thing to try with your Windows Box is Oracle VBOX. You can try different kernels of Ubuntu and see which one you like before installing on a dedicated box or just Run it Virtual Machine.
[19:04] <SirSlippers> I have XP Pro +SP3 on my windows computer ... (sigh) .. I'm TIRED of the WinDoZe bloat and have jumped ship to Linux ...
[19:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> SirSlippers, ok and also XP for consumers and small businesses hasn't been supported with security updates since April 4th/6th 2014
[19:05] <SirSlippers> I actually jumped ship from Apply ][+ to MS-DOS 2.0 when they were dumping us too
[19:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> SirSlippers, again unsupported software, so a good idea for the switch, but what's your issue with Ubuntu then?
[19:06] <SirSlippers> right .. doesn't mean it doesnt work!  just cause there's snow on the roof don't mean there aint no fire in the furnace!
[19:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok
[19:07] <SirSlippers> XP Pro has been a good friend for a decade now ... but its time has come ... Linux seems to be the way to go now  Apple is too expensive and too M$ now
[19:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yeah
[19:08] <tgm4883> !OT
[19:08] <nacc> heh
[19:08] <SirSlippers> OK .. so I did the  ls -all ... have total 100 and a bunch of lines
[19:09] <SirSlippers> I'm proud that I found out how to open a terminal and what to do in it  :-)  It wasn't explained anywhere
[19:10] <scrupul0us> hey all… any issues with apt repos? out of the blue on a fresh install of 14.04 I cannot install "libpq-dev" "E: Unable to locate package libpq-dev"
[19:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> scrupul0us, things like that happen soetimes
[19:11] <nacc> scrupul0us: did you do an `apt update` to refresh?
[19:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> says it can't find a package
[19:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that it should be able to find
[19:11] <scrupul0us> i did update, upgrade
[19:11] <Backwards> SirSlippers you can still use XP Pro with your Linux box. There are two free softwares out there: One is WinSCP it is a GUI for Windows. The other is pUTTY    Both are free and I use them all of the time.
[19:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> might be an issue with the repos yes
[19:11] <Backwards> You don't need a Screen on your Ubuntu box if you use the above.
[19:11] <scrupul0us> okie, wasnt sure if it was a "known" issue at the moment… maybe they are being updated
[19:12] <apb1963> nacc: Thanks, I don't see a package for it.  The source code looks like a bit of a pain to compile as it needs various libraries and env variables set and that's when I doublechecked the authors site, wherein there is NO mention of XFA forms.  I would think that such a feature would be highlighted if supported.
[19:12] <ioria> !info libpq-dev trusty
[19:12] <OerHeks> !info libpq-dev trusty
[19:13] <SirSlippers> Backwards: > kewl!  I am a musician and want to use KXStudio on XUbuntu 14.4 ... there is SOUNDFONTS available in that package .. but I had to UPGRADE Linux 6.10 ... NOW I want to erase the hard drive and put in a CLEAN copy of Xububtu V14.4
[19:13] <scrupul0us> !info libpq-dev trusty
[19:14] <nacc> scrupul0us: just spun up a container (using archive.ubuntu.com as the repository) and the pacakge is installing fine (version 9.3.13-0ubuntu0.14.04)
[19:14] <apb1963> Does anyone know of a PDF reader that supports XFA forms on 14.04; or perhaps even 16.04 as I will upgrade for this?  I need to open Gov't produced documents and Okular doesn't support it.  I'm also running KDE so I don't think Evince is an option - although I've read it does not support XFA anyway.
[19:14] <nacc> SebthreeBQM10HD: that shouldn't happen often, unless your mirror is often out of date, I don't think
[19:15] <scrupul0us> @nacc: yeah I spun up a VM and it had no issue… just this one package though out of a bunch on a dedicated server … again fresh install
[19:15] <apb1963> I tried installing adobe reader... I ran into problems.
[19:15] <scrupul0us> digital ocean guys are seeing some issues due to apt as well
[19:15] <scrupul0us> they are west coast and im east coast
[19:15] <Backwards> SirSlippers I am a musician as well. Most of the latest stuff out there is 64 bit though. Especially with transit time or throughput or if you will   latency.
[19:15] <SirSlippers> Backwards:  > should I boot from the KXStudio DVD or from the Xubuntu 16.04 DVD ?
[19:16] <nacc> scrupul0us: dunno, works for me
[19:16] <ioria> up E coast
[19:16] <SirSlippers> ok .. should I try the 64 bit on here?>
[19:16] <scrupul0us> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[19:16] <debug0x1> Can't wait to go home and fsck
[19:16] <debug0x1> force it.
[19:16] <Backwards> SirSlippers join   #Backwards
[19:16] <debug0x1> unmount.
[19:17] <debug0x1> woo!
[19:17] <will8272> Hi guys, sexual inuendo apart, how do i log a bug in printing?
[19:17] <nacc> !bug | will8272
[19:17] <nacc> will8272: what bug did you find?
[19:19] <will8272> weird printing error, print to PDF from kicad and everything is there, but try to print that PDF and various bits disappear - like the pads, print-preview faithfully shows the error before the printer makes it solid
[19:19] <nacc> will8272: so does that imply (print preview showing the error) that the bug is actually in kicad?
[19:20] <will8272> nope, kicard isn't running by then, it happens between PDF viewer and the printer
[19:21] <nacc> will8272: oh the pdf print preview is what shows the error? so maybe the pdf viewer has a bug?
[19:21] <nacc> will8272: is it reproducible across multiple PDF viewers?
[19:21] <will8272> using diffrent PDF viewers doesn't seem to help, perhaps its a libray issue, but I don't know enough about the data flow to guess much more
[19:23] <nacc> will8272: well, i'd probably start with filing a bug against the viewer, maybe upload the PDF that prints incorrectly in the bug
[19:23] <varainde1ian> from time to time my internet connection drops
[19:24] <varainde1ian> it happened again
[19:24] <varainde1ian> what can I provide?
[19:24] <varainde1ian> I am running ubuntu 16.04
[19:26] <varainde1ian> should I provide dmesg?
[19:27] <will8272> nacc: I'll have a look at the link and see if I can figure out the bug tracker - cheers
[19:27] <nacc> will8272: np
[19:29] <varainde1ian> anybody can help me track this problem?
[19:30] <scrupul0us> spp apt-cache policy only has 3 entries in it on the server that has issues
[19:31] <scrupul0us> mp VPs instance has GOBS more
[19:31] <scrupul0us> so maybe apt needs a lil reset? ive done most of the stuff i found on google about it
[19:31] <nacc> scrupul0us: there shouldn't be 'gobs' of options for a given package in general ... doyou have lots of PPAs or redundant entries?
[19:32] <scrupul0us> http://pastebin.com/j9ZPmZtY
[19:32] <scrupul0us> there is the difference between the two
[19:33] <scrupul0us> my origins are all 2.2.2.2 on the dedicated which makes no sense
[19:33] <nacc> scrupul0us: well, yeah, they're using totally different archives
[19:33] <nacc> scrupul0us: and the dedicated only has main enabled (afaict), and not security updates (!!) or (-updates)
[19:35] <mymodels> slm
[19:35] <mymodels> varmı turkce bılen
[19:35] <nacc> !tr | mymodels
[19:35] <scrupul0us> @nacc: apt-get install unattended-upgrades ?
[19:36] <nacc> scrupul0us: hrm?
[19:36] <scrupul0us> how do i enable the security updates channel
[19:36] <nacc> scrupul0us: i think you'd edit /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* appropriately
[19:37] <scrupul0us> i duped the sources from the VPS and am updating apt now
[19:39] <nacc> scrupul0us: if i had to guess, your dedicated system's cobbler mirror was out of date; in the future, you might check `apt-cache policy libpq-dev` first, to see where it thinks it should be getting it from. But givenyou only had main, you would have missed, minimally, the security updates for that package
[19:40] <HloWrd> Anyone running Ubuntu on Surface Pro 3?
[19:40] <scrupul0us> that sort it… thanks for the support =)
[19:43] <spiderx> hello there
[19:46] <varaindemian> From time to time I loose internet connection. I am uisng 16.04
[19:47] <varaindemian> What can I provide to find out the problem?
[19:47] <varaindemian> I have to restart to regain connection. Loging ou doesn't work
[19:49] <varaindemian> anybody?
[19:54] <aruns> Hi.
[19:57] <aruns> Is there a recommended practice for installing NodeJS on Ubuntu 14.04?
[19:58] <yeahbaby> aruns: digitalocean have a lot of tutorials on it
[20:24] <superkuh> Stupid question, but, if I have yasm 0.8 from the Ubuntu repos and I've compiled yasm 1.2.0 from source should I remove the repo yasm 0.8 before building a deb with 1.2.0 and installing it?
[20:24] <reisio> really the package manager's job to tell you that
[20:25] <darkelfjuggalo> My Gateway Laptop NE56R41u has Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on it... for some reason after about a week of using the computer, either my Bootloader or the OS itself became corrupted... I used it, I closed the lid for the night without powering off, I went to bed... when i got up i opened the lid, the screen was pink but nothing responded, when I attempted to restart I got en error message that nothing was there. I have attempted a Fresh 
[20:25] <superkuh> Guess I'll just leeroy jenkins it.
[20:25] <superkuh> checkinstall to build debs always seems to install the package regardless of weather --fstrans=no is set anyway.
[20:25] <kukur> hi
[20:26] <reisio> hi
[20:26] <kukur> can I run a command on remote server from local terminal if I have ssh access?
[20:26] <reisio> kukur: yup
[20:26] <kukur> reisio: how?
[20:26] <reisio> ssh in and run it, or ssh user@host 'command'
[20:27] <kukur> reisio: aah, but when I do ssh user@host , it changes terminal to the remote
[20:27] <reisio> what's wrong with that
[20:28] <fat-marty> Hi all.  I am considering purchase of Inspiron 5000, intend to replace Windows with 14.04.  How can I be certain that 14.04 will support the touch-screen BEFORE purchase lol. Is this the right place to ask this question?
[20:29] <kukur> reisio: well, I want to get backup of postgresql database ( I know the command) but for this I need to make ssh login everytime. I am willing to automate this in a small script. So this script will be on my local machine and whenever I need backup I run the script and it do backup for me
[20:29] <SchrodingersScat> kukur: you can add a command at the end, if you just want it to run that and exit. for example, ssh user@box uptime
[20:29] <reisio> kukur: you want the backup on the remote?
[20:30] <kukur> SchrodingersScat: thanks, that seems working, any guide for that if there are some advance flags?
[20:30] <bekks> kukur: Run a cron job on your postgres server, and just transfer your backup after that. No need for ssh for creating the actual backup-
[20:30] <kukur> reisio: yes, but want to trigger that from local
[20:30] <reisio> kukur: why
[20:31] <SchrodingersScat> kukur: I rarely use ssh that way, not sure what pitfalls you might hit, I would think flags should be ok.
[20:31] <kukur> bekks: I need that on user's request without cron
[20:32] <reisio> so, what you've already been told will work, then
[20:33] <SchrodingersScat> kukur: ansible is another option, but really more geared toward if you had multiple machines to run this on, probably overkill for one.
[20:33] <kukur> thanks
[20:33] <kukur> :)
[20:34] <SchrodingersScat> yep, good luck
[20:35] <TGVoid> EriC^^: How do I install ImDisk?
[20:35] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Or where can I find it?
[20:35] <reisio> imdisk is more for win32 systems
[20:35] <reisio> if you type 'imdisk' into a search engine, you'll find it
[20:36] <TGVoid> reisio: I can use it to mount a ddrescue file to Windows, correct?
[20:36] <reisio> TGVoid: potentially
[20:36] <TGVoid> imdisk
[20:36] <reisio> why would you be using ddrescue and then Windows, though?
[20:36] <pennTeller> Hi guys, does anybody know if there is a way to resize the windows after you have resdized them using the monitor edge?
[20:37] <pennTeller> You know, sort of like windows or mac do it?
[20:37] <TGVoid> reisio: EriC^^ Was helping me earlier and told me to do that since my image wouldn't mount
[20:37] <pennTeller> Not that those OS's are anyting compared to ubuntu of course
[20:38] <tgm4883> pennTeller: not sure what you mean
[20:38] <reisio> TGVoid: image of what?
[20:38] <pennTeller> tgm4883: you know when you drag a window to the edge of your monito it takes exactly half the scren realstate?
[20:38] <TGVoid> reisio: It wouldn't mount to Ubuntu, and it's an image of an NTFS drive
[20:38] <SchrodingersScat> pennTeller: like when you 'snap' a window to the edge? then try to maybe change the height?
[20:38] <pennTeller> yes snap!
[20:38] <anonym> https://www.facebook.com/IdiotNaDena/videos/464696727071630/
[20:39] <anonym> :))))
[20:39] <pennTeller> thats the word I was looking for lol
[20:39] <tgm4883> pennTeller: yep
[20:39] <pennTeller> ok so when you do that, you are kind of stuck with that size it seems
[20:39] <LostForgotten> I have a Computer I cannot log into, I want to reformat the device but I have a lot of personal files I do not want to lose, is there a way to install a Fresh version of Ubuntu without removing the existing files?
[20:39] <SchrodingersScat> pennTeller: hmm, can't help you, on xubuntu this seems to just work for me...
[20:39] <tgm4883> pennTeller: what DE? Unity?
[20:39] <pennTeller> oh I see, im using ubuntu GNOME
[20:39] <tgm4883> cause that works for me on Unity on 16.04
[20:39] <k1l_> anonym: please keep this channel supportonly
[20:40] <reisio> TGVoid: a ddrescue copy of an entire drive? You'll probably need to find the specific partition offsets to mount them
[20:40] <reisio> TGVoid: various howtos for that online
[20:40] <TGVoid> reisio: It's a copy of a single partition
[20:41] <TGVoid> reisio: I just want to rescue the files while keeping names and directories
[20:41] <SchrodingersScat> !password | LostForgotten, liveUSB would get you to the existing files, with some caveats that if the data is encrypted then you'll need to decrypt them
[20:42] <reisio> TGVoid: what does mount say when you try to mount it?
[20:47] <LostForgotten> SchrodingersScat: Password isn't my issue... the HDD ceases to boot. it was giving me an error saying there is nothing there, but the Partitions are still there...
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> LostForgotten: k, I would still go with booting into a LiveUSB to check, then recover whatever you need.
[20:48] <TGVoid> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18043869/
[20:48] <LostForgotten> Does that mean remake to stick with live image?
[20:49] <multifractal> I have libboost files of the form libboost_system.so.1.54.0 (i.e. suffixed with version number). But some C++ library I want to use is looking for "libboost_system.so". Should apt-get have installed symlinks?
[20:49] <multifractal> Is there any way to get them without manually making 35 or so symlinks?
[20:51] <LostForgotten> i am presently booted into this device through to USB Installer 'try out before installing' option
[20:51] <tgm4883> multifractal: did you install libboost-system1.54-dev ? That package seems to have those files
[20:52] <multifractal> I used "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends libboost-all-dev" from Caffe installation instructions, and also tried "sudo apt-get install libboost-dev"
[20:52] <hudnix> help I upgraded my nvidia graphics to a gtx 960 and now whenever I try to enable the nvidia driver the x server crashes at login. I tried purging and reinstalling the driver. The open source driver works, but the performance sucks.
[20:52] <tgm4883> multifractal: what's the output of "dpkg -l libboost-system1.58-dev"
[20:52] <reisio> TGVoid: 'sda' isn't likely a single partition; are you still saying it's an image of a single filesystem?
[20:53] <multifractal> tgm4883 No packages found. I think I have 1.54.0
[20:53] <tgm4883> multifractal: sorry, I meant
[20:53] <tgm4883> multifractal: what's the output of "dpkg -l libboost-system1.54-dev"
[20:54] <multifractal> tgm4883 lol oh ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/18053657/
[20:54] <tgm4883> multifractal: so that file you're looking for is in that package in trusty (I'm assuming you are on trusty based on the version) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&arch=any&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=libboost_system.so
[20:55] <multifractal> tgm4883 yeah 14.04. So what should I do? apt-get remove something and apt-get install something else?
[20:56] <Grorco> I have a file on my desktop I can't delete because it says it doesn't exist...
[20:56] <tgm4883> multifractal: well you'll probably need to remove the symlinks you just made. No need to remove any packages, just install the package I just listed
[20:56] <TGVoid> reisio: It's an image of 1 partition of a corrupted hard drive from a Windows 10 laptop. I sent the laptop in for repair, so I no longer have the drive
[20:56] <Bashing-om> hudnix: Nvidia recpmmends the 367 version driver . What release are uou on ? and what returns : ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' .
[20:56] <tgm4883> Grorco: special name?
[20:57] <reisio> TGVoid: do you recall the command you ran to acquire teh image?
[20:57] <Grorco> logout.desktop.LLC1JY
[20:57] <multifractal> tgm4883 Oh OK, I deleted the symlinks. "sudo apt-get install libboost-system1.54-dev"?
[20:57] <tgm4883> multifractal: yep
[20:57] <tgm4883> Grorco: are you looking at it from the desktop, or from the terminal?
[20:57] <Grorco> tgm4883: From the desktop
[20:57] <tgm4883> Grorco: what's the output of "ls -l ~/Desktop"
[20:57] <reisio> TGVoid: anyway, there are two obvious possibilities: 1) it's an image of more than a single partition, and you'll have to tell 'mount' some offsets to mount a single partition within it, or 2) as it says, it is broken, you will have to use file recovery tools and cross your fingers
[20:57] <hudnix> Bashing-om: nvidia-361, amd64-microcode
[20:58] <multifractal> tgm4883 It installed, but no symlinks appeared. And the C++ code fails to compile at that include statement.
[20:58] <tgm4883> multifractal: interesting. Any errors during install?
[20:58] <Grorco> tgm4883: terminal doesn't show it
[20:58] <tgm4883> Grorco: does it show other files?
[20:59] <TGVoid> reisio: All I remember is that I used gddrescue
[20:59] <Bashing-om> hudnix: What release ? As last I looked .. 367 was only available for 16.04 + .
[20:59] <reisio> TGVoid: 1 or 2
[20:59] <reisio> TGVoid: those are your options
[20:59] <hudnix> Bashing-om: 16.04
[20:59] <Grorco> tgm4883: yes
[20:59] <Vlek> Hello, I'm trying to use some python scripts as aliases. I've read some conflicting stuff online about where I should put said files. Should I be able to put them in /usr/local/bin, restart my computer, and then be able to use them without any further configuration?
[20:59] <TGVoid> reisio: I say 2
[20:59] <tgm4883> Grorco: can you pastebin that output?
[21:00] <tgm4883> Grorco: actually, pastebin this
[21:00] <tgm4883> Grorco: what's the output of "ls -la ~/Desktop"
[21:00] <LostForgotten> i am loking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntuReinstallation and this outlines exactly what I want todo... unfortunately my installer only has 'Erase Ubuntu 16.04 LTS' and 'Something Else'
[21:00] <Bashing-om> hudnix: One can get the 367 version driver from our trusted PPA . Want to try it ?
[21:00] <hudnix> Bashing-om: I'll try anything :)
[21:00] <Grorco> tm4883: I've never used paste bin not sure how to
[21:00] <tgm4883> !pastebin | Grorco
[21:01] <reisio> TGVoid: 2 would suck, rule out 1 first
[21:01] <jatt> Vlek: yes it should work, many third party libraries do install python scripts in /usr/local/bin
[21:02] <multifractal> tgm4883 I tell a lie; i just didn't look at the C++ error carefully. Now there IS a symlink for libboost_system.so, but no symlink libboost_filesystem.so. So it's failing to compile that one.
[21:02] <TGVoid> reisio: Can you walk me through the process? I booted into Ubuntu.
[21:02] <Vlek> jatt, okay, I think I need to restart then because I've put the file in the location already, but the command isn't showing. Thanks.
[21:02] <multifractal> So it just made 1 symlink, but I need one for each of the libboost so's, right?
[21:02] <tgm4883> multifractal: progress, you need to install "libboost-filesystem1.54-dev"
[21:03] <Bashing-om> hudnix: ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo apt rm /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-367 ; sudo reboot ' . See what results when you come back up .
[21:03] <jatt> Vlek: no restart should be needed, do you have /usr/local/bin in your PATH environment variable?
[21:03] <reisio> TGVoid: https://major.io/2010/12/14/mounting-a-raw-partition-file-made-with-dd-or-dd_rescue-in-linux/
[21:03] <jatt> Vlek: also check whether the python script has the executable bit set
[21:03] <TGVoid> reisio: Thanks
[21:03] <Vlek> jatt, maybe? I just did a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04
[21:03] <Grorco> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18054188/
[21:03] <Vlek> jatt do you mean a shebang with the python path?
[21:03] <tgm4883> multifractal: you can plug in file names to that site I linked and it will show you packages that have that file
[21:03] <multifractal> tgm4883 WOAH! it compiled! Hello world!
[21:04] <SchrodingersScat> LostForgotten1: not sure what you're looking at..."This page does not exist yet."
[21:04] <multifractal> tgm4883 thanks dued!
[21:04] <tgm4883> multifractal: yw
[21:04] <jatt> Vlek: no, for example I have the following script in /usr/local/bin:
 Vlek: yes it should work, many third party libraries do install python
[21:04] <jatt>        scripts in /usr/local/bin
 tgm4883 I tell a lie; i just didn't look at the C++ error
[21:04] <jatt>                carefully. Now there IS a symlink for libboost_system.so, but
[21:04] <jatt>                no symlink libboost_filesystem.so. So it's failing to compile
[21:05] <Vlek> Ha, whoops
[21:05] <reisio> np
[21:05] <tgm4883> Grorco: what's the output of "grep 'logout' ~/Desktop/*"
 multifractal: you can plug in file names to that site I linked and
[21:05] <jatt>           it will show you packages that have that file
[21:06] <Grorco> tgm4883: nothing
[21:06] <tgm4883> hmm
[21:07] <hudnix> Bashing-om: Thanks, trying it now
[21:07] <Grorco> tgm4883: http://imgur.com/IRRhacm
[21:07] <Bashing-om> hudnix: K :)
[21:08] <LostForgotten1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation  SchrodingersScat
[21:08] <Vlek> jatt, I think you miss-pasted. Could I see your script example?
[21:09] <Grorco> tgm4883: I added logout from the accessories menu to the desktop this came with it, I deleted logout but couldn't delete this file
[21:09] <tgm4883> Grorco: odd. How about this. Pastebin the output of "ls -la /usr/share/applications ~/.local/share/applications"
[21:09] <jatt> Vlek: seems I pasted a page of messages by mistake, my apologies
[21:09] <TGVoid> reisio: I think the 2 partitions might be the case. I see 2 "partitions" within the partition I copied
[21:09] <TGVoid> reisio: I believe I started saving it to another file, deleted the file, and continued on the original file while imaging the drive
[21:10] <jatt> Vlek: please check whether the script has the executable bit set, you can do it with ls -altr <full path of the script>
[21:10] <reisio> TGVoid: that'd be better than it just being a broken single partition
[21:11] <SchrodingersScat> LostForgotten1: k, that link isn't describing anything magic, it's just that if you had a separate home partition then you could do a manual partitioning and not wipe out the home.
[21:11] <Grorco> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18054630/
[21:11] <SchrodingersScat> !backups | LostForgotten1
[21:12] <Grorco> tgm4883: I'm going to try a restart and see if it fixes the problem, I'll be back in a minute
[21:12] <tgm4883> Grorco: ok
[21:14] <LostForgotten1>  SchrodingersScat: I didn't expect magic... I can't boot the OS, so I need to reinstall but I can't find that option to preserve it in the installer like I am used to... when i don't need it it is always there...the one time i do need it, i can't find it. and this Device was supposed to be the back up in the first place[I was turning it into a personal Cloud], but i accidentaly removed to contents from my scattered cloud serv
[21:14] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try "file /image"
[21:14] <Grorco> tgm4883: A restart took care of it :)
[21:14] <tgm4883> Grorco: ok cool
[21:15] <SchrodingersScat> LostForgotten1: well, you're not upgrading, so the first option on that page doesn't make sense, you can try the 'something else' and do the manual partitioning.
[21:15] <Grorco> tgm4883: I added logout to the desktop again and the bug didn't reproduce :) thanks for your help!
[21:16] <tgm4883> yw
[21:16] <SchrodingersScat> LostForgotten1: oh, guess this is what you're getting at, "Be sure to keep the same format type, the same size, and untick the "Format" checkbox or all data on "/" will be deleted!."
[21:16] <LostForgotten1> the new installer is lubuntu and the option to install side by side isn't available either
[21:16] <TGVoid> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18054971/
[21:17] <EriC^^> TGVoid: looks like a ntfs partition
[21:19] <Vlek> jatt, I figured it out. I also had to chmod it as well.
[21:19] <TGVoid> reisio: What am I doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/18055138/
[21:20] <jatt> Vlek: I see, once the bit is set should work without restart
[21:20] <slojanko> Hello, can anyone help me with running ubuntu from a usb? I've installed it but there's no usb option in boot menu
[21:23] <Grorco> I want to start trying to help with little bugs but I feel lost :( I used bazaar to get a local branch of software-properties and I don't understand where the code actually is...
[21:23] <reisio> slojanko: what about a boot order in bios config?
[21:23] <EriC^^> TGVoid: hate to be the bad news bearer but i think you need to do the imdisk chkdsk route
[21:23] <reisio> TGVoid: error?
[21:24] <slojanko> reisio: what are the chances of an install of ubuntu being 3.87 GB ?
[21:24] <Grorco> the file seems pretty empty, and the read-me from bzr says not to edit it directly
[21:24] <TGVoid> reisio: It shows me usage
[21:24] <slojanko> I just noticed it might not have installed at all but I wonder how the hell im booting from it then
[21:24] <reisio> slojanko: fairly decent I'd say
[21:24] <reisio> TGVoid: shows you what?
[21:24] <TGVoid> reisio: The usage
[21:24] <TGVoid> EriC^^: We're seeing if we can somehow mount it
[21:25] <reisio> it outputs "The usage"?
[21:25] <reisio> or something else?
[21:25] <EriC^^> TGVoid: you already tried
[21:25] <TGVoid> reisio: It shows the command usage, like the options of the command
[21:25] <EriC^^> TGVoid: you're currently seeing if you have actually the disk image not the partition image and using an offset to mount the partition further down in sectors in the disk image
[21:25] <pandasma> need help
[21:26] <EriC^^> TGVoid: if testdisk showed none as the partition table type at first then it's probably a partition image, also the file command shows the image to be a ntfs partition as well
[21:26] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I do have the partition image, but I think it split while I imaged it
[21:26] <EriC^^> split how?
[21:27] <EriC^^> maybe try cat image1 image2 > newimage
[21:27] <EriC^^> if you have the space
[21:27] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I ran DDrescue, paused it midway, changed the output file, paused, deleted the new output file, and put in the old output file and resumed.
[21:28] <EriC^^> TGVoid: you have 2 files right now?
[21:28] <reisio> TGVoid: then you're using the command wrong
[21:28] <TGVoid> EriC^^: No, one
[21:29] <Pazooza> How do you shut off sticky windows or stick borders or what ever it is?
[21:29] <EriC^^> so you wrote some of the output to a file that you deleted
[21:29] <TGVoid> reisio: How though? I don't see a problem. I multiplied the starting sector by 512 and used that as the offset like the guide told me
[21:29] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Yes
[21:29] <EriC^^> TGVoid: that could screw up the MFT i think that's at the end of the partition
[21:29] <k1l_> Pazooza: unity-tweak-tool can handle that
[21:30] <Pazooza> Ok
[21:30] <EriC^^> maybe the filesystem doesn't know where to look for the right stuff now
[21:31] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I stopped it near 1/4 of the way there
[21:31] <TGVoid> EriC^^: No more than 1/4
[21:31] <EriC^^> yeah but now the remaining stuff aren't aligned i guess
[21:32] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try chkdsk and see what happens i'd say
[21:33] <TGVoid> EriC^^: "command not found"
[21:33] <EriC^^> TGVoid: another option would be (kind of far fetched though) is to use testdisk to recover the deleted file or at least the size it had, and fill in the image you have with that amount of just zero's so it's aligned at the end where the mft is (i'm just guessing here)
[21:33] <Pazooza> Is that called window snapping, kil_?
[21:33] <reisio> TGVoid: mount -o loop,...
[21:34] <EriC^^> TGVoid: you have to run it from windows
[21:34] <hudnix> I now can't find the person who was helping me, but the new nvidia driver worked, thanks
[21:34] <reisio> if the FS is broken, possibly chkdsk from Windows will help; but if mount thinks it isn't even a partition, that won't help
[21:34] <EriC^^> TGVoid: where did you do the imaging?
[21:34] <TGVoid> reisio: "failed: Structure needs cleaning"
[21:34] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Ubuntu
[21:35] <reisio> TGVoid: okay, so it's probably broken in some way
[21:35] <EriC^^> TGVoid: where did you save the new output file you deleted?
[21:35] <TGVoid> EriC^^: On an external drive. I saved it about a month ago so it's probably gone
[21:35] <k1l_> Pazooza: yes
[21:36] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Deleted*
[21:36] <EriC^^> TGVoid: what kind of filesystem did it have?
[21:37] <TGVoid> EriC^^: The external drive? NTFD
[21:37] <TGVoid> EriC^^: NTFS*
[21:37] <EriC^^> TGVoid: do you still have access to it?
[21:37] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Yes. It has my image on it
[21:38] <EriC^^> ok, try using testdisk to see if you can still see it there, don't write anything, just press "p" over the partition in the list and browse for the file
[21:38] <EriC^^> try to recover it with "c" or at least see if the size of the file is still there next to it
[21:39] <gpietro> hi guy last tiem i installed hibernate i couldnt boot after..i suspect because of the encrypted file system.
[21:39] <gpietro> I am running ubuntu 16.04...and i would like to install hiberante and use it hwo do i go about it?
[21:41] <TGVoid> EriC^^: There's nothing that isn't visible on the drive
[21:41] <EriC^^> TGVoid: ok
[21:47] <TGVoid> EriC^^: reisio What now?
[21:47] <reisio> dunno, what now?
[21:50] <TGVoid> reisio: EriC^^ Should I just use Testdisk and cross my fingers?
[21:50] <EriC^^> TGVoid: use it how?
[21:51] <TGVoid> EriC^^: To get my files out
[21:51] <EriC^^> yeah but how?
[21:51] <EriC^^> what feature
[21:53] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Using the Intel setting, quick searching, and then copying
[21:54] <EriC^^> TGVoid: that's supposed to search for lost partitions, to add them to the partition table or look for files in them
[21:54] <EriC^^> TGVoid: give it a shot i guess
[21:55] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try with "none" too
[21:55] <EriC^^> as you dont really have a partition table..
[21:56] <EriC^^> TGVoid: maybe some ntfs specialized recovery tools might help?
[21:56] <TGVoid> EriC^^: With none it automatically displays NTFS. Viewing the files shows "can't open filesystem. Filesystem seems damaged."
[21:56] <EriC^^> TGVoid: type apt-cache search ntfs recovery
[21:56] <EriC^^> you'll get a list of some tools
[21:57] <arooni> is there software to automatically back up my content to AWS glacier?  ideally i'm looking for something similar to mac os' arq.  ideas?
[21:57] <EriC^^> TGVoid: aha, that's what you want i guess, the "none"
[21:57] <apb1963> how can I install acroread?  The usual way (apt-get) fails.
[21:57] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try photorec
[21:58] <EriC^^> TGVoid: photorec searches for file headers, it doesn't care about anything else, so it can recover files you give it the headers of
[21:58] <nacc> apb1963: i think it's mostly discontinued by adobe, but you'd get it from them
[21:58] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It won't keep names or directories though. A large amount of my files will be useless without names and directories
[21:58] <nacc> apb1963: i believe you can make it install on 14.04 and possibly even 16.04, but it's unsupported now
[21:58] <apb1963> nacc: so it's been removed from the repos
[21:58] <EriC^^> TGVoid: i'll be honest, having missing a middle part your odds are very slim
[21:58] <nacc> apb1963: it hasn't been in the repos since at least 12.04 according to rmadison
[21:59] <EriC^^> i'd photorec the living heck out of it and then try your luck with other stuff and chkdsk
[21:59] <nacc> apb1963: maybe it's been in some other repository than the main one?
[21:59] <apb1963> I don't know
[21:59] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Would writing the missing part with 0s work?
[21:59] <apb1963> All I know is I'm coming dangerously close to going back to Windows after avoiding it for over 25 years.
[21:59] <EriC^^> TGVoid: it could i guess
[22:00] <nacc> apb1963: why? for fillable PDF forms?
[22:00] <nacc> apb1963: complain to acrobat about that, it's a non-standard standard
[22:00] <apb1963> nacc: Uncle Sam says jump... I ask how high
[22:00] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Is it worth a shot?
[22:00] <randoking> Hi
[22:00] <arooni> i'm often connected to my home network; i'm wondering if theres also  a way to network mount a ubuntu ext4 drive so mac os x can see it; then i could just use arq which does it all for me
[22:00] <arooni> ?
[22:00] <EriC^^> TGVoid: you don't have which part is missing though
[22:00] <nacc> apb1963: there are hacky workarounds, from what I gather, but nothing other than acrobat on windows will do it properly, and even that not always :/
[22:00] <randoking> Anyone point me to PSAD support ?
[22:01] <nacc> arooni: network mount? do you mean export an ext4 drive over the network?
[22:01] <TGVoid> EriC^^: We do know when one part ends and the other starts
[22:01] <EriC^^> TGVoid: i'd try photorec first, then the other tools in that list, then chkdsk, chkdsk might still work (might)
[22:01] <bprompt> apb1963:     what do you need acrobat for anyway?
[22:01] <EriC^^> i think there's a backup mft at the end and one at the start i think, was the missing part 1/4 at the start or the last 1/4 ?
[22:01] <EriC^^> TGVoid: how do you know that?
[22:01] <arooni> nacc i'm not sure what you mean by export; but make it accessible on only a trusted network (my home network but not any other) via username/password ;  something like this
[22:01] <apb1963> nacc: I just realized I may be going about this wrong... I want to try and run it under wine
[22:02] <TGVoid> EriC^^:
[22:02] <TGVoid> EriC^^: fdisk -l
[22:02] <apb1963> bprompt: Because the gov't chooses to use XFA forms in its PDF files
[22:03] <EriC^^> TGVoid: that just shows the 2 linux partitions testdisk recovered somehow even though it's just a ntfs partition
[22:03] <nacc> arooni: network mount usually means you have a network-visible filesystem and you are trying to mount it locally (and you wouldn't mention ext4 then, as that's not relevant to the clients mounting). I think what you are trying to do is serve a particular filesystem/directory over your local network?
[22:03] <nacc> arooni: mac and linux clients? or also windows?
[22:03] <arooni> nacc exactly!  but again i dont want it to be accessible on any network but my own
[22:03] <arooni> nacc in my case it only needs to work for a mac client
[22:03] <nacc> arooni: whether or not it's accessible is up to your network configuraion
[22:04] <EriC^^> TGVoid: hmm, there might be a way i guess
[22:04] <nacc> arooni: i believe macs can use NFS, that's probably what i'd do
[22:04] <nacc> !nfs | arooni
[22:04] <arooni> nacc well if i connect to a different wireless ap at a coffee shop or something i dont want my whole file system available
[22:04] <nacc> arooni: oh i see
[22:04] <arooni> nacc and i can use NFS without having to reformat the drive ubuntu si on
[22:04] <arooni> ?
[22:04] <arooni> is on
[22:05] <nacc> arooni: yes, it is a protocol, nothing to do with the fs contents itself
[22:05] <arooni> nacc what would your suggestion be to ensure that the NFS happens only on my local network
[22:05] <apb1963> hate it when they don't label buttons
[22:05] <nacc> arooni: i'm sure there is a way to do what you're suggesting, i'm not sure how though :)
[22:06] <arooni> got it
[22:06] <apb1963> arooni: What are you trying to do exactly?
[22:06] <nacc> arooni: how well-configured is your home network?
[22:06] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Would it work 100%
[22:07] <arooni> decently; its an impossible to remember long secured wpa2 password; and im in a residential neighborhood
[22:07] <EriC^^> TGVoid: nevermind
[22:07] <nacc> arooni: i meant more hostnames, domain-name, etc. you can restrict nfs access by remote host information
[22:07] <Ben64> impossible to remember isn't good
[22:08] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It won't work?
[22:08] <arooni> naac ahh gotcha;  yeah i really only need to allow my mac mini's hostname to access it
[22:08] <TGVoid> Ben64: Hey! Thanks for your help that one day!
[22:08] <Loshki> arooni: it should be possible to configure the server to only answer requests from the local network
[22:09] <Ben64> TGVoid: np
[22:09] <arooni> Loshki is there a way to add username/password to it somehow so i can prevent hostname spoofing
[22:09] <nacc> Loshki: right, the issue is arooni's local netowrk can change (when they got to the cafe), etc.
[22:09] <nacc> arooni: i am 99% sure you can add auth layers to nfs
[22:10] <jge_> hey all, anyone know how to configure transmission with a proxy?
[22:10] <EriC^^> TGVoid: it's pretty hard
[22:10] <arooni> well now at least i have a name of a tool
[22:10] <Loshki> arooni: gonna have to do the reading (sorry). https://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Deployment_Guide-en-US/s1-nfs-security.html
[22:10] <arooni> and an approach; more than i had before
[22:10] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try some of those tools in the list, maybe photorec first if you'd like
[22:10] <nacc> arooni: yeah, google around and i'm sure you'll find a guide, it might even be on the ubuntu wiki already, just ina  subsection
[22:10] <EriC^^> apt-cache search ntfs recovery
[22:11] <nacc> arooni: nfs has lots of options, etc.
[22:11]  * arooni wondering if its easier to set up to NFS or to figure out a client or way to auto backup contents of my ubuntu laptop to aws glacier (such as how arq does it on a mac)
[22:13] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try scrounge-ntfs it sounds promising
[22:14] <tgm4883> arooni: IDK what's available, but a long time ago there was a paid app that did that
[22:14] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I can't find a guide on it
[22:15] <EriC^^> TGVoid: http://thewalter.net/stef/software/scrounge/scrounge-ntfs.html
[22:16] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Thanks
[22:16] <EriC^^> np
[22:18] <junaid_> #launchpad
[22:21] <TGVoid> EriC^^: "invalid mft record"
[22:23] <EriC^^> TGVoid: did you run scrounge-ntfs -l first?
[22:23] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I thought that was for pre-corruption
[22:23] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I'll do that now
[22:24] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Same thing
[22:37] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Is there anything else we can do?
[22:38] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try photorec to get the important stuff
[22:39] <EriC^^> then try chkdsk
[22:39] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Hope is lost then
[22:39] <EriC^^> chkdsk still might work, i dont trust it though not to corrupt it more, that's why i'd use photorec first
[22:40] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I can try checkdisk, but the file names and directories are a necessity.
[22:40] <EriC^^> what data is it?
[22:40] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I have many servers that I really need
[22:40] <TGVoid> EriC^^: There are some videos that I can live without
[22:41] <EriC^^> virtualbox servers?
[22:41] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Minecraft servers
[22:41] <TGVoid> EriC^^: The servers have a few files with unique names
[22:42] <EriC^^> what about the important stuff, are they just a few files?
[22:43] <TGVoid> EriC^^: That is the important stuff IMO. I need the entire directory with the same file names in order for them to function
[22:44] <EriC^^> oh
[22:45] <TGVoid> EriC^^: So photorec is the only option?
[22:46] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Or is there a slim chance that Testdisk will work?
[22:46] <EriC^^> it might i guess
[22:46] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Is it risky?
[22:48] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try advanced below analyze
[22:48] <EriC^^> see if there's any repair mft option
[22:49] <EriC^^> or any options it has
[22:49] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Intel or none?
[22:49] <EriC^^> none
[22:50] <TGVoid> There's type and boot
[22:50] <TGVoid> The other ones are useless
[22:50] <TGVoid> EriC^^: ^^
[22:50] <computer> people, i am trying to install a program through sudo apt-get and it seems i already have it, but i cannot execute it, i get permission denied, how can i by pass this?
[22:50] <computer> or actualy i get command not found
[22:51] <TGVoid> computer: If it says "permission denied" use sudo before the command
[22:51] <OerHeks> computer, more details please, what ubuntu, what program?
[22:52] <computer> TGVoid: OerHeks i already used sudo
[22:52] <k1l_> computer: what error exactly? what program do you try?
[22:52] <computer> k1l_: ok i will paste it
[22:52] <k1l_> !paste | computer
[22:53] <TGVoid> computer: Welp.... there goes my knowledge on Ubuntu
[22:53] <TGVoid> computer: Good luck finding your solution!
[22:53] <OerHeks> maybe sudo is the culprit, lets see
[22:53] <EriC^^> TGVoid: go to boot
[22:54] <TGVoid> EriC^^: There's Org., Backup, and Rebuild BS
[22:54] <EriC^^> TGVoid: any repair mft?
[22:54] <EriC^^> (dont try it yet)
[22:54] <TGVoid> EriC^^: No
[22:54] <Bray90820> Is there a way I can list the device names for my bluetooth devices
[22:55] <EriC^^> TGVoid: what does org have?
[22:55] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Copy boot sector over backup sector
[22:55] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I didn't select it
[22:55] <computer> TGVoid: k1l_ OerHeks https://da.gd/1MPB
[22:57] <EriC^^> TGVoid: any rebuild bs?
[22:57] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Yes
[22:57] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try it, dont commit to any changes though
[22:57] <k1l_> computer: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[22:58] <OerHeks> computer, is /work in your root? .. odd to use fedorapaste indeed?
[22:58] <computer> raspian k1l_
[22:58] <computer> OerHeks: yes
[22:58] <k1l_> computer: so please ask in #raspbian since its not even using ubuntu as base
[22:59] <OerHeks> maybe run a decent upgrade first.
[22:59] <computer> OerHeks: i upgraded
[23:03] <EriC^^> TGVoid: scrounge-ntfs seems a little promising
[23:03] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It didn't work
[23:05] <EriC^^> TGVoid: scrounge-ntfs or the backup bs?
[23:05] <Bray90820> Is there a way to slow down the pointer speed to less than what system setting will allow
[23:05] <EriC^^> *rebuild bs
[23:06] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Scrounge. It said invalid MFT record
[23:06] <Bray90820> Bluetooth mouse btw
[23:06] <EriC^^> TGVoid: what happened when you tried scrounge-ntfs -l /path/to/image ?
[23:06] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Scrounge. It yelled out invalid MFT record
[23:07] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:07] <Valkyrie115> so who has steam working in ubuntu 16.04
[23:07] <EriC^^> did it mention the start and end sectors and cluster size?
[23:07] <Valkyrie115> I need help
[23:07] <EriC^^> TGVoid: ^
[23:07] <Valkyrie115> If someone could pm me I'd be great
[23:07] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I put in the start and end
[23:08] <Valkyrie115> Because steam seems to just be crashing
[23:08] <Valkyrie115> If not possible I accept it
[23:09] <k1l_> !details | Valkyrie115
[23:09] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:09] <Valkyrie115> well
[23:09] <Valkyrie115> I'll say what I did step by step then lol
[23:09] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try with -m 6291457
[23:09] <Valkyrie115> I typed in apt-get install steam-launcher
[23:09] <Valkyrie115> with sudo
[23:09] <Valkyrie115> but
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> Steam keeps crashing
[23:10] <k1l_> Valkyrie115: with what error?
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> That's all my issue consists of
[23:10] <tgm4883> !details | Valkyrie115
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> no error
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> ....
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> when I click on the program
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> it crashes
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> that's the error
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> it literally won't open
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> I see no error
[23:10] <OerHeks> do you start steamlauncher with sudo too?
[23:11] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Should I wait for Testdisk before I do anything else?
[23:11] <Valkyrie115> Jesus Christ
[23:11] <Valkyrie115> So you have to open it with terminal
[23:11] <Valkyrie115> are you serious
[23:11] <k1l_> Valkyrie115: no
[23:11] <k1l_> Valkyrie115: and could you please reduce the enter usage? thanks.
[23:11] <Valkyrie115> If that's the case I'll just install Windows 10
[23:11] <Valkyrie115> lol
[23:12] <OerHeks> Valkyrie115, no, missed you click sentences
[23:12] <Valkyrie115> I'm sorry if my enter usage is triggering to you
[23:12] <Valkyrie115> :)
[23:12] <nacc> !info steam-launcher xenial
[23:12] <k1l_> Valkyrie115: what package did you install exactly? and what are you starting?
[23:12] <nacc> Valkyrie115: so you're using a ppa?
[23:12] <EriC^^> TGVoid: yeah
[23:12] <Valkyrie115> kill_: sorry what
[23:12] <k1l_> because there is no package like you said. so something is wrong. and we asked to be precise.
[23:12] <nacc> Valkyrie115: i've run steam on 16.04 fine
[23:12] <Valkyrie115> nacc: no
[23:12] <EriC^^> TGVoid: what is testdisk still doing?
[23:12] <Valkyrie115> God
[23:12] <Valkyrie115> could someone pm me
[23:13] <nacc> Valkyrie115: `apt-get install steam-launcher` returns an error on 16.04, as no such package exist.
[23:13] <nacc> *exists
[23:13] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Search mft
[23:13] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: nobody is going to PM you. Support should stay in this channel
[23:13] <Valkyrie115> nacc: that's what I did
[23:13] <Valkyrie115> as I said before
[23:13] <EriC^^> TGVoid: aha, cool
[23:13] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: are you sure you didn't just "apt-get install steam"
[23:13] <Valkyrie115> okiedokie tgm4883
[23:13] <nacc> Valkyrie115: please pastebin `apt-cache policy steam-launcher`
[23:13] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:13] <Valkyrie115> so I include the word policy
[23:13] <Valkyrie115> apparently
[23:14] <Valkyrie115> is that right?
[23:14] <Bray90820> Is there a way to slow down the pointer speed of my bluetooth mouse to less than what system setting will allow
[23:14] <nacc> Valkyrie115: the full command to run was between ``
[23:14] <Valkyrie115> If so I'm sorry because nobody told me that before
[23:14] <OerHeks> valve gives "Try to run steam by: LC_ALL=C steam"
[23:14] <Valkyrie115> lol
[23:14] <Valkyrie115> oh really
[23:14] <nacc> Valkyrie115: no, i'm asking for that output, so i can see where you got that package from
[23:14] <Valkyrie115> just ''
[23:14] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[23:14] <Valkyrie115> sorry if I'm being a jerk but this is frustrating
[23:14] <Valkyrie115> my sound doesn't even work on my computer
[23:14] <nacc> Valkyrie115: you're being a jerk. But that's ok.
[23:14] <Valkyrie115> no
[23:15] <Valkyrie115> this is stupid
[23:15] <Valkyrie115> no offense
[23:15] <k1l_> Valkyrie115: would be helping if you could concentrate for 5 minutes.
[23:15] <Valkyrie115> but
[23:15] <nacc> Valkyrie115: please run: 'apt-cache policy steam-launcher'
[23:15] <nacc> Valkyrie115: and pastebin the output
[23:15] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: and don't use enter for punctuation
[23:16] <Valkyrie115> wow
[23:16] <Valkyrie115> whatever
[23:16] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: wow what?
[23:17] <Valkyrie115> Kill I'm talking to tmg at the moment about my problem
[23:17] <Valkyrie115> thanks
[23:17] <Valkyrie115> so for the first time with ubuntu I'm unable to hear sound
[23:17] <Valkyrie115> whatsoever
[23:18] <Valkyrie115> I have yet to find out what's up with that
[23:18] <Valkyrie115> and what other drivers weren't installed
[23:18] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok, so how about we tackle one issue at a time
[23:18] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:18] <Valkyrie115> can we tackle the sound one first
[23:19] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: also, keep in mind that lots of people in this channel can help you
[23:19] <Valkyrie115> I'm open to anyone helping me
[23:19] <Valkyrie115> BUT
[23:19] <Valkyrie115> I'm unable to read what everyone is saying at once
[23:20] <Valkyrie115> Please try to understand that this is frustrating from an entry users perspective
[23:20] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: I understand that. Please understand that everyone in this channel is a volunteer
[23:20] <Valkyrie115> I know?
[23:21] <Valkyrie115> I'm not trying to be rude to anyone
[23:21] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: If you'd like to be more demanding, there is paid support for that. Nobody here needs you to be rude to them
[23:21] <Bray90820> Is there a way to slow down the pointer speed of my bluetooth mouse to less than what system setting will allow
[23:22] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: so why don't you post the output of 'lspci'
[23:22] <tgm4883> !pastebin | Valkyrie115
[23:22] <Valkyrie115> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKYzrU8qc7w
[23:22] <Valkyrie115> would this help
[23:22] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: no
[23:22] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: for multiple reasons
[23:22] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: 1) You wanted to work on your sound issue first
[23:23] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:23] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: 2) That is installing the windows version of steam
[23:23] <Valkyrie115> so what's the command again
[23:23] <tgm4883> lspci
[23:23] <Valkyrie115> I see
[23:24] <Valkyrie115> so just enter lspci
[23:24] <tgm4883> I've not troubleshot a sound issue in a long time, so if anyone wants to pipe up that would be great
[23:24] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok, now you are going to copy that output to a pastebin
[23:24] <tgm4883> !pastebin | Valkyrie115
[23:24] <Valkyrie115> okiedokie
[23:24] <Valkyrie115> I don't recall what the command was though
[23:25] <Valkyrie115> So I can't
[23:25] <Sik> Hey, I'm on 14.04 and want to update to 16.04 but the wi-fi connection is trash (as in sometimes I can't trust it to stay connected for more than 5 minutes :D), what's the safest way to upgrade this computer without risking it becoming unusable because wi-fi dies? :/
[23:25] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok, do this
[23:25] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | Sik: first of all,
[23:25] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: 'lspci | nc termbin.com 9999'
[23:25] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: that will give you a link
[23:25] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: which you need to paste here
[23:25] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:25] <Sik> well ok thanks for that (　・・) I still need to come up with suggestions over the wi-fi thing, anyway (even if for later) any ideas?
[23:26] <nacc> Sik: can you get wired? you shouldn't need the wireless during the upgrade itself
[23:26] <Valkyrie115> so this is steams **** up this is clear
[23:26] <nacc> Sik: i would think it would d/l the set of packages first, before initiating the upgrade
[23:26] <Valkyrie115> I need the apt-get install command
[23:26]  * tgm4883 sighs
[23:26] <Sik> Living in a hotel and the router isn't mine, so no :/ (otherwise I'd go wired all the way)
[23:26] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: why? You wanted to work on the sound issue
[23:26]  * Valkyrie115 sighs as well
[23:26] <nacc> Sik: if your connection is really that inconsistent, then it might just take a bunch of resumptions
[23:26] <Valkyrie115> lol
[23:26] <Valkyrie115> well this whole thing is a cluster
[23:26] <Valkyrie115> wouldn't you say
[23:27] <Ben64> pick one issue and work on it
[23:27] <Sik> ...right I think it downloads everything first, but does anything happen if that gets interrupted? (　・・) Also I was wondering about the minimal installer in case the standard one fails
[23:27] <Valkyrie115> Tons of missing drivers and I'm regretting installing ubuntu
[23:27] <Valkyrie115> Honestly
[23:27] <Sik> But I guess you have a point
[23:27] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: IDK, I'm playing Kerbal Space Program on  steam on my second monitor right now
[23:27] <Valkyrie115> Yeah
[23:27] <Valkyrie115> When I had Windows all the drivers were installed but that's too much to ask
[23:27] <speed_> i am having troubble with ubuntu 14.04 using the Nvidia GTX 960 ever since i got that card i cant log into a GUI
[23:28] <Ben64> Valkyrie115: pick one problem, explain the problem, wait for response, paste what people ask for, get the help, done
[23:28] <noobwithaquestio> Hello. So I recently installed 16.04 and after fighting with drivers for my 980Ti I finally got everything to boot after setting my boot to Text Mode. I was eble to decrypt and everything was fine. However, when I try to restart I watch the text mode start and then it stops at a line similar to "Power Button registered as temperature point" and I have no idea what the issue may be. Can anyone help? I can boot in via GRUB an
[23:28] <Valkyrie115> There are loads of problems with my computer right now including display ones so
[23:28] <Valkyrie115> I guess I'll go with the Steam issue first
[23:28] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: you sure?
[23:28] <Valkyrie115> Yeah
[23:28] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok, steam it is
[23:29] <Valkyrie115> While I have a million issues
[23:29] <ruizgatti> ola
[23:29] <Valkyrie115> so what do I enter in for Steam to install
[23:30] <ruizgatti> hola!!
[23:30] <pauljw> !es | ruizgatti
[23:30] <speed_> i dont know how to get into a command shell iether
 Valkyrie115: please pastebin `apt-cache policy steam-launcher`
[23:30] <ruizgatti> ok
[23:30] <pauljw> :)
[23:31] <apb1963> Ben64: core dumps
[23:31] <speed_> well, in advanced options for ubuntu i can but i cant do apt-get commands there
[23:31] <Ben64> speed_: ??
[23:31] <speed_> im trying to see if i can purge the nvidia drivers from my system to get it to login
[23:32] <speed_> but i need shell acess to do that
[23:32] <Ben64> speed_: what do you mean you can't do apt-get
[23:32] <nacc> speed_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2263316 ?
[23:32] <Valkyrie115> pastebin/XY0HHejt
[23:32] <Valkyrie115> that's what I see
[23:32] <Valkyrie115> pastebin.com/XY0HHejt
[23:32] <speed_> but i cant login
[23:33] <Valkyrie115> tgm4883: are you there
[23:33] <speed_> i cant get to terminal, and idk how to get past the login screen to get  shell acess
[23:33] <nacc> Valkyrie115: right, so you used some external source for steam, whichi s not necessary in 16.04
[23:33] <nacc> Valkyrie115: well, hasn't been necessary since 14.04 (afaict)
[23:33] <Ben64> speed_: use recovery mode
[23:33] <nacc> !info steam xenial
[23:34] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:34] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: do this "dpkg -l | grep steam | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:34] <Valkyrie115> I'm a newbie to this whole ubuntu thing lol
[23:34] <nacc> speed_: if you're at the login screen, you could also drop to the sheell (ctrl+alt+f1)
[23:34] <apb1963> Ben64: my /tmp has several core dumps, all in all totaling 9.5G.  I guess I can delete them.
[23:34] <speed_> ah
[23:35] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: that's ok. Open a terminal and type (or copy and paste) that all in
[23:35] <Valkyrie115> termbin.com/m3hp
[23:35] <Valkyrie115> m4hp *
[23:36] <apb1963> Ben64: but that brings up an interesting question... what happens the next time something dumps core if I have a RAM disk that's too small to hold it?  Probably just not get a core dump if there's no room to hold it yes?
[23:36] <Ben64> apb1963: i suppose. how big is each one?
[23:36] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok, so then lets do this. Lets remove that package "sudo apt remove steam-launcher"
[23:37] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: then lets do this. 'ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | nc termbin.com 9999'
[23:37] <apb1963> Ben64: they vary... the largest is 4.3G
[23:37] <Ben64> apb1963: ew
[23:37] <apb1963> Ben64: yeah
[23:38] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:38] <Valkyrie115> one sec
[23:38] <apb1963> Ben64: probably firefox if I had to guess
[23:39] <Valkyrie115> termbin.com/kbyn
[23:40] <Ben64> feb 10 2014?
[23:40] <Ben64> Valkyrie115: this is a new install? ubuntu 16.04?
[23:40] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok do this "lsb_release -a | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:40] <Valkyrie115> Yes Ben64
[23:40] <Valkyrie115> -_-
[23:40] <tgm4883> Ben64: It wouldn't surprise me if valve was doing something dumb there
[23:40] <Ben64> oh maybe
[23:41] <tgm4883> Ben64: they probably ship the file and place it there rather than write a new file
[23:41] <Valkyrie115> termbin.com/bfcc
[23:41] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok perfect
[23:42] <tgm4883> So lets do this
[23:42] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/steam.list"
[23:42] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: then do "sudo apt update"
[23:42] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: let me know when that is done
[23:42] <Valkyrie115> "cannot remove
[23:43] <Valkyrie115> Done
[23:44] <Ben64> Valkyrie115: whats the cannot remove thing?
[23:44]  * Valkyrie115 sighs
[23:44] <Valkyrie115> it can't remove the source
[23:44] <Ben64> did you use sudo
[23:44] <Valkyrie115> I'm sorry but I think I possibly might go with Windows if I can't get this working
[23:45] <Ben64> you can if you follow the steps
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> I know people are trying to help but my keyboard isn't even fully working
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> so
[23:45] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: If you're going to threaten to do that, then do it. It's literally no skin off my nose whether you use Ubuntu or not
[23:45] <mistiry> help plz...ubuntu 16 LTS installs php7, i need to install php-devel but cannot for the life of me FIND it....
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> There's about 10 thing wrong right now
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> I'm not making threats
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> This is lierally frustrating to an entry user
[23:45] <nacc> mistiry: do you mean php-dev?
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> literally *
[23:45] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok, and?
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> and
[23:46] <Valkyrie115> this doesn't happen with mac os x or windows
[23:46] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: oh that's a good one
[23:46] <Ben64> k bye
[23:46] <mistiry> nacc: JFC. yes. im a RHEL guy, its php-devel there. im an idiot - thank you!
[23:46]  * tgm4883 writes that one down for open mic knight
[23:46] <nacc> Valkyrie115: and you're being helped, but it's not obvious you're doing exactly what is being asked in order to fix the issues (sudo wouldn't have said cannot remove)
[23:46] <Ben64> he left
[23:46] <nacc> fair enough
[23:47] <tgm4883> I swear I'm trying to help people today
[23:47] <OerHeks>  php7.0-dev
[23:47] <Ben64> !cookie | tgm4883
[23:47] <OerHeks> oh
[23:47] <tgm4883> nom nom nom
[23:47] <nacc> OerHeks: yep, although i would recommend php-dev instead (better on upgrade paths/future-proof)
[23:47] <nacc> OerHeks: as 7.1 will be present someday, and php-dev will dtrt for upgrades there
[23:48] <Valkyrie115> Is there at least something I can install to make the drivers properly install without lines of terminal commands
[23:48] <Valkyrie115> If not please tell me
[23:48] <Valkyrie115> I'll remove this and leave you guys alone
[23:49] <k1l_> Valkyrie115: we suggest using terminal commands in here since they provide proper errormessages and so we know what is going on.
[23:49] <scrupul0usOTG> hey all, ive setup an ipv6 address on em1… iface em1 inet6 static… when i restart the network, ifconfig shows an ipv6 address that appears to be autoconfig assigned much like centos does… how can i force the interface to have the static address i set in /etc/network/interfaces… ipv6 networking does work though but i dont want a random address on the interface… thnks
[23:49] <gin> Valkyrie115, you can install proprierity drivers from software sources I think
[23:49] <Valkyrie115> I've tried
[23:49] <Valkyrie115> Thanks for the suggestion though
[23:49] <Valkyrie115> I had sound driver issues in Windows 10 as well
[23:49] <OerHeks> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[23:50] <gin> Valkyrie115, Sound issues? Whats your sound card?
[23:50] <opreapetrutalexa> salut
[23:50] <nacc> tgm4883: probably time to get that lspci :)
[23:50] <Valkyrie115> OerHeks: nothing was updated
[23:50] <Valkyrie115> lol
[23:51] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: can you give us the output of "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:51] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: that will show us a listing of some of your hardware
[23:51] <Tin__man> bout to give me a headache, and I'm just reading..
[23:51] <Valkyrie115> termbin.com/df8e
[23:52] <OerHeks> oh, radeon
[23:53] <tgm4883> OerHeks: yea, but should be supported OOTB I think
[23:54] <Valkyrie115> so I'm guessing this isn't fixable
[23:54] <veronica__> wifi is hard blocked
[23:54] <veronica__> please help
[23:54] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: well you seem to be back on sound now
[23:54] <scrupul0usOTG> i did try this: http://superuser.com/questions/33196/how-to-disable-autoconfiguration-on-ipv6-in-linux
[23:54] <scrupul0usOTG> no luck
[23:54] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: which means you've jumped to another issue AGAIN
[23:54] <Valkyrie115> one sec
[23:54] <aaaaaaaaaa> hello
[23:54] <Valkyrie115> I'm going to play a youtube video
[23:54] <gin> Valkyrie115, it most likely is, may I ask how you connected your speakers, via 3.5mm plug, or integrated hdmi?
[23:55] <aaaaaaaaaa> whats the easiest way to append a png header to a png file whose header was removed?
[23:55] <Valkyrie115> nope
[23:55] <Valkyrie115> no sound
[23:55] <Valkyrie115> This whole thing has been an issue
[23:55] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: what laptop is this?
[23:56] <Valkyrie115> Desktop
[23:56] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ah ok
[23:56] <Valkyrie115> and a p7 1154
[23:56] <Valkyrie115> It's an HP Desktop
[23:56] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: so do you want to work through these issues or not
[23:57] <Valkyrie115> Honestly will probably revert back to Windows 8
[23:57] <Valkyrie115> Sorry
[23:58] <Guest1663> 한국사람 있나요?
[23:59] <tgm4883> !ko | Guest3885
[23:59] <irregular> hi guys, I have this duplicated code for 2 functions, is there a way I can abstract some of it to make it look nicer? http://pastebin.com/VkbP7vFU
[23:59] <irregular> ops wrong channel, ignore me!!