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veronica__lethu: I just upgraded to 16.04 and added an atheros dual band card00:04
lethuveronica__: have you tried booting with the "noacpi", "nolapic" or "acpi=off" kernel option?00:05
veronica__no00:05
veronica__how to?00:05
lethuveronica__: you will have to edit your grub2 config file00:06
lethubrb00:06
veronica__...ok00:06
lethuveronica__: back00:07
lethuveronica__: open a terminal then "namo /etc/default/grub"00:08
lethunano*00:08
lethusorry00:08
lethuveronica__: sudo nano00:08
veronica__ok00:10
veronica__done00:10
veronica__what do i edit?00:11
lethuveronica__:  sorry wrong file00:12
veronica__ok00:12
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lethuveronica__: sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg00:13
veronica__ok in00:14
lethuveronica__: go to the first "menuentry"00:17
veronica__feature_menuentry?00:17
lethuveronica__: then add on the "linux" line acpi=off00:17
lethuveronica__: nope, just "menuentry00:18
lethu"00:18
lethuveronica__: it should say menuentry 'ubuntu'00:18
veronica__what does this do?00:20
veronica__dont I need acpi?00:20
veronica__could this effect suspend?00:21
lethuveronica__: sometimes the built in acpi causes problems similar to yours00:21
veronica__ok, rebooting now00:21
lethuveronica__: ok00:22
user|45007hi01:21
user|45007help me please01:22
lethuuser|45007: what's your problem?01:22
dongmk看不懂。。01:23
abhishekhas any1 tried neon on kubuntu 16.04?01:30
valorieabhishek: that isn't really advised or supported01:36
valoriebut some have tried it for sure01:36
valorieespecially in VMs01:36
abhishekvalorie, I am using kubuntu 16.04, there are a lot of bug fixes in kde plasma 5.7 which I would like to use. But the not sure when it will be available via backports given the Qt version difference.01:39
valorieIMO it will not be available in backports, ever01:43
valorieperhaps in 16.10 if the Ubuntu devels let us upgrade Qt enough01:44
valoriethese days, that is out of our hands01:44
* valorie is already running 16.10 for daily use01:44
valoriebut  still plasma 5.6.3 here01:45
abhishekvalorie, I am a bit new. Is it necessary for ubuntu and kubuntu to same qt version? Why are you doubtful that ubuntu won't upgrade qt?02:17
abhishekto *have the qt02:17
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mariano_I upgraded to plasma 5.6.4 and I get randome freezes. My desktop just freezes. Is there a way to downgrade without having to reinstall the whole system?02:59
goddarddoes ktorrent's search plugin also use the proxy?03:13
valorieabh03:14
valoriefooey, abhishek left03:14
konradosmorning :)05:51
viewer|48950hi06:52
utkarshhello everyone! new to IRC : )07:07
hateballHello utkarsh, do you have a Kubuntu support question?07:08
utkarshhateball: not exactly, just trying out IRC.07:10
hateball!ot07:11
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:11
utkarshhateball: Thanks.07:11
hateballutkarsh: It's slow right now so no harm, it just makes it easier to follow support questions if we separate things :)07:12
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LynoureEver since 16.4. I have had occasionally (several times an hour) problems such as clicks affecting the window below the one that looks to have the focus, and random dragging/double clicking. Ideas?10:13
soee_hi Lynoure, with backports enabled and plasma 5.6.4 installed ?10:15
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Lynouresoee_: backports yes, plasma seems to be 5.5.510:18
soee_should be 5.6.4 if yo have backports enabled10:19
Lynouresoee_: just did apt-get update, which gave Hit:7 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease  and apt-cache show for plasma-desktop still shows 5.5.510:21
yossarianukI never understood the policy of freezing the version of plasma in kubuntu, it means running a desktop with known bugs in, in the name of stability ....10:22
soee_Lynoure: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports10:23
soee_yossarianuk: it is Ubuntu (Debain ?) policy10:23
yossarianukyes I know, but the result of that policy means that users have a lesser, more buggy experience .10:24
soee_well true, taht is why backports exit10:25
Lynouresoee_: what's the difference between the ppa and non-ppa backports?10:25
LynoureI mean, why two different ones?10:25
yossarianuksoee: I know, just think its a bad policy for the user..... Some packages should be rolling - i.e desktop, nvidia-drivers, browsers10:26
soee_well Neon solves this :)10:26
yossarianukYes I know!10:26
yossarianuki'm using it at home10:26
yossarianuknot at work (yet)10:26
soee_Lynoure: they ar enot the same imo10:27
soee_Kubutnu has own packports ppa10:27
Lynouresoee_: yes, I see they are different, but both being called backports is somehow just confusing to me.10:28
soee_well Ubuntu Backports and Kubuntu Backports :D10:28
soee_a bit diff10:28
Lynouresoee_: yes, clearer if people refer to them like that :)10:29
hateballwasnt it proposed that there'd be rolling release ubuntu, alongside LTS? that would solve much headache10:50
BluesKajhi all11:22
konradosmorning :)11:34
konradosIs there a gui or console app, which, like bvi, will allow me to open files, showing the hex codes of bytes in the same time (along with "normal" text) but, when I select "normal" characters, it will highlight the hex equivalents and vice-versa?11:36
acheronukkonrados: ghex and a few others I think?11:42
konradosthanks, I'll try it.11:42
BluesKajkonrados: think your question might get  a more complete answer in a chat like ##linux11:43
yossarianukhi - having one major(ish) issue ...11:44
konradosBluesKaj yeah, I already wanted to do this, but what acheronuk said worked :)11:44
yossarianukWhen I add a bridge interface using the network manager gui - it doesn't appear in the network-manager as a list of connections11:44
yossarianukit does if I use nmtui11:44
konradosacheronuk, ghex seems to be exactly what I was looking for, thanks!11:45
yossarianukI am using 16.04+ppa - however before I added the PPA network-manager was completely broken - i.e yo couldn't edit any network-manager connection11:45
acheronukkonrados: great :)11:45
BluesKajkonrados:  good to hear11:48
yossarianukany  ideas why I cannot see my bridge with network-manager ?:11:53
clearnote01Hello I had query. If I put proxy in /etc/environment in Kubuntu, does Firefox use that proxy when in user pref i select "Use system proxy"11:53
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Sert1991Hi guys12:02
yossarianuki.e - with 16.04 - you cannot add a network bridge via network-manager gui12:09
yossarianukit doesn't work unless you use nmtui12:09
nicolshi!14:05
nicolslarge update today? what is new? :)14:05
nicolsis it 5.6.5 in backports?14:06
yossarianuknicols: thanks for pointing that out14:08
yossarianukyes it is14:08
yossarianuksame level as neon now (not QT though)14:08
yossarianuk(neon is due to have 5.7 soon though)14:08
Nani_Dragonis there a way to use only free software in kubuntu? Disable non-free stuff?15:51
BluesKajNani_Dragon:  non-free isn't installed by default, so just don't install so called non-free packages15:56
BluesKajpersonally I don't see the problem with non-free apps if they work, but the purist path isn't for everyone that's for sure15:58
Nani_Dragonthanks BluesKaj16:03
Nani_DragonI just want to see if I can go full free16:03
Nani_Dragonif so, why wouldint you?16:03
Nani_Dragonjust my thinking atm16:03
BluesKajnon-free is still free16:04
BluesKajit's developed outside of the OS realm usually16:04
Nani_DragonBluesKaj: free as in price? Or free to do what I want with?16:05
BluesKajthere very few apps that cost real money in linux16:06
BluesKajfor home users16:06
BluesKaj!non-free16:07
BluesKaj!info non-free16:07
ubottuPackage non-free does not exist in xenial16:07
BluesKajhehe16:07
BluesKajthere used to be an infobot for non-free16:08
BluesKajNani_Dragon:  https://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/16:10
acheronuk!nonfree16:11
ubottuWhen we use the term 'non-free', we mean that it is not Free (as in freedom) Software. Software that is not Free cannot be fixed or improved by anyone except its authors -- who are not us :(. For more information, see https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html16:11
Nani_Dragonso is there a way to turn off non-free sources?16:12
Nani_Dragonjust so I dont accidentally install one or something?16:12
BluesKajoif course the info author wouldm't use the hyphen even though most users use it16:16
BluesKajwouldn't16:16
Lynouresoee: my mouse problem turned out to be a hw issue, happening simulaneously in both the mice I tried. :)16:17
emmy audio stopped working system wide17:07
emis there any way to restart/reboot audio without restarting the computer?17:07
BluesKajopen alsamixer and make sure your automute is disabled for starters, em17:08
emi tried opening the sound thing in the panel and it crashed plasma17:11
beowuffem: Probably something like systemctl restart alsa?17:11
utkarshHello I had a query. Can we use /etc/environment file to set System-wide proxy?17:12
BluesKajem open alsamixer in the terminal17:14
emBluesKaj: okay done17:16
emi don't see anything that says automute17:17
BluesKajnavigate with the arrow keys to the far right and look for asutomute , use the down arrow key to disableit17:18
BluesKajautomute rather17:18
emthere is no automute17:19
ems/pdif s/pdif 1  and s/pdif 217:19
emthat's it17:19
BluesKajF6 choose the soundcard withe '0" beside it17:21
BluesKajem: ^17:21
emi found it. I disabled the auto-mute17:25
BluesKajok now make sure the master and relevant ctls for your setup are maxed out for volume with no MM, if any are muted use the M key to disable mute17:27
emall of that seems correct.17:29
embut no audio17:29
BluesKajnext escape and do, sudo alsactl store, which should save your settings17:29
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emokay done17:31
emit was the right one because i sawit changing when I put my head phones in and out17:31
BluesKaji forgo to ask which audio chip is listed in alsamixer in the upper lreft17:32
BluesKajleft17:32
geniiI'd take a wild stab and say some kind of Intel HDA17:33
BluesKajyeah, most likely genii :-)17:33
emthe default one is:  HDA Intell HDMI17:34
embut that one had no settings at all17:34
emonly when it put it on F6 Soundcard #1  which is: HDA Intel PCH17:35
emdoes it have any options.17:35
embut that isn't the default when I open alsamixer17:35
emthis is a problem ie had before and it does get fixed by turning the computer off and back on again17:36
emI just though maybe I can learn some way to do it so i don't have to turn off the computer17:36
BluesKajyeah , that damn setting has become default for some reason, but you can change it in system settings.multimedia>device preferences and then in the harware tab17:36
emin the settings where it lets me test speaker placement i heard sound17:38
embut i don't hear sound in chrome17:38
BluesKajjust to be sure run, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, if the driver loads properly there won't be any output from that command17:41
BluesKajyou also might need to reboot17:42
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BluesKajoops, my desktop froze ...had to do a hard reboot18:22
emBluesKaj: Yeah i did a hard reboot also18:29
emsound came back18:29
emit's just weird18:29
BluesKajem:  there's a bug with intel hda drivers not loading after updates/upgrades, it's been around for a over a yr , but it doesn't seem to be important to the devs18:55
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nsaw81hi20:21
nsaw81Is there a possibility in an UHD (4K) resolution to scale all applications that the fonts and icons are readable? I've tried to setup the dpi vom 96 to 150. This helped a lot, but some applications (for example java applications) does not change its apperance?20:24
valorie!drivers20:36
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plusEVhey, i have a good theme going on my Kubuntu 16.04, but there is one one problem. When I type into the youtube serarchfield my font is so faded and grey I can bearly see it. Crazy thing is that when I type in any other search field like in google for example the font is normal black and easy to read. Does anyone know why this happens , and how I can fix it?21:20
plusEVok I just noticed it is more than youtube. but on google it is normal.21:21
valoriethat's very strange21:24
ZrenWhich browser?21:24
valoriesounds like a browser issue though?21:24
plusEVfirefox21:24
plusEVyea I have tried messing around with the themes in the OS and sometimes it resets my firefox to plain white standard theme thing. but now i have a look of my theme within the browser and it is messed up again21:26
plusEVwhen it resets to the standard white firefox it is fine21:27
ZrenOh, it's gtk breeze-dark21:28
ZrenWeird that it doesn't have a white reset stylesheet for the browser.21:28
plusEVZren: so were to change that do you know?21:30
Zrenapplication style > gtk21:30
ZrenThough that'll change the color of all gtk windows.21:30
Zreniunno how to do a firefox only rule21:30
plusEVZren: GTK2 and 3?21:31
plusEVthose?21:31
plusEVlols yea changing those fixed it21:32
plusEVnice ty :D21:32
plusEVbut they come with the OS right? someone should patch that if they do. ;)21:33
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