[00:04] <veronica__> lethu: I just upgraded to 16.04 and added an atheros dual band card
[00:05] <lethu> veronica__: have you tried booting with the "noacpi", "nolapic" or "acpi=off" kernel option?
[00:05] <veronica__> no
[00:05] <veronica__> how to?
[00:06] <lethu> veronica__: you will have to edit your grub2 config file
[00:06] <lethu> brb
[00:06] <veronica__> ...ok
[00:07] <lethu> veronica__: back
[00:08] <lethu> veronica__: open a terminal then "namo /etc/default/grub"
[00:08] <lethu> nano*
[00:08] <lethu> sorry
[00:08] <lethu> veronica__: sudo nano
[00:10] <veronica__> ok
[00:10] <veronica__> done
[00:11] <veronica__> what do i edit?
[00:12] <lethu> veronica__:  sorry wrong file
[00:12] <veronica__> ok
[00:13] <lethu> veronica__: sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:14] <veronica__> ok in
[00:17] <lethu> veronica__: go to the first "menuentry"
[00:17] <veronica__> feature_menuentry?
[00:17] <lethu> veronica__: then add on the "linux" line acpi=off
[00:18] <lethu> veronica__: nope, just "menuentry
[00:18] <lethu> "
[00:18] <lethu> veronica__: it should say menuentry 'ubuntu'
[00:20] <veronica__> what does this do?
[00:20] <veronica__> dont I need acpi?
[00:21] <veronica__> could this effect suspend?
[00:21] <lethu> veronica__: sometimes the built in acpi causes problems similar to yours
[00:21] <veronica__> ok, rebooting now
[00:22] <lethu> veronica__: ok
[01:21] <user|45007> hi
[01:22] <user|45007> help me please
[01:22] <lethu> user|45007: what's your problem?
[01:23] <dongmk> 看不懂。。
[01:30] <abhishek> has any1 tried neon on kubuntu 16.04?
[01:36] <valorie> abhishek: that isn't really advised or supported
[01:36] <valorie> but some have tried it for sure
[01:36] <valorie> especially in VMs
[01:39] <abhishek> valorie, I am using kubuntu 16.04, there are a lot of bug fixes in kde plasma 5.7 which I would like to use. But the not sure when it will be available via backports given the Qt version difference.
[01:43] <valorie> IMO it will not be available in backports, ever
[01:44] <valorie> perhaps in 16.10 if the Ubuntu devels let us upgrade Qt enough
[01:44] <valorie> these days, that is out of our hands
[01:44]  * valorie is already running 16.10 for daily use
[01:45] <valorie> but  still plasma 5.6.3 here
[02:17] <abhishek> valorie, I am a bit new. Is it necessary for ubuntu and kubuntu to same qt version? Why are you doubtful that ubuntu won't upgrade qt?
[02:17] <abhishek> to *have the qt
[02:59] <mariano_> I upgraded to plasma 5.6.4 and I get randome freezes. My desktop just freezes. Is there a way to downgrade without having to reinstall the whole system?
[03:13] <goddard> does ktorrent's search plugin also use the proxy?
[03:14] <valorie> abh
[03:14] <valorie> fooey, abhishek left
[05:51] <konrados> morning :)
[06:52] <viewer|48950> hi
[07:07] <utkarsh> hello everyone! new to IRC : )
[07:08] <hateball> Hello utkarsh, do you have a Kubuntu support question?
[07:10] <utkarsh> hateball: not exactly, just trying out IRC.
[07:11] <hateball> !ot
[07:11] <utkarsh> hateball: Thanks.
[07:12] <hateball> utkarsh: It's slow right now so no harm, it just makes it easier to follow support questions if we separate things :)
[10:13] <Lynoure> Ever since 16.4. I have had occasionally (several times an hour) problems such as clicks affecting the window below the one that looks to have the focus, and random dragging/double clicking. Ideas?
[10:15] <soee_> hi Lynoure, with backports enabled and plasma 5.6.4 installed ?
[10:18] <Lynoure> soee_: backports yes, plasma seems to be 5.5.5
[10:19] <soee_> should be 5.6.4 if yo have backports enabled
[10:21] <Lynoure> soee_: just did apt-get update, which gave Hit:7 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease  and apt-cache show for plasma-desktop still shows 5.5.5
[10:22] <yossarianuk> I never understood the policy of freezing the version of plasma in kubuntu, it means running a desktop with known bugs in, in the name of stability ....
[10:23] <soee_> Lynoure: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[10:23] <soee_> yossarianuk: it is Ubuntu (Debain ?) policy
[10:24] <yossarianuk> yes I know, but the result of that policy means that users have a lesser, more buggy experience .
[10:25] <soee_> well true, taht is why backports exit
[10:25] <Lynoure> soee_: what's the difference between the ppa and non-ppa backports?
[10:25] <Lynoure> I mean, why two different ones?
[10:26] <yossarianuk> soee: I know, just think its a bad policy for the user..... Some packages should be rolling - i.e desktop, nvidia-drivers, browsers
[10:26] <soee_> well Neon solves this :)
[10:26] <yossarianuk> Yes I know!
[10:26] <yossarianuk> i'm using it at home
[10:26] <yossarianuk> not at work (yet)
[10:27] <soee_> Lynoure: they ar enot the same imo
[10:27] <soee_> Kubutnu has own packports ppa
[10:28] <Lynoure> soee_: yes, I see they are different, but both being called backports is somehow just confusing to me.
[10:28] <soee_> well Ubuntu Backports and Kubuntu Backports :D
[10:28] <soee_> a bit diff
[10:29] <Lynoure> soee_: yes, clearer if people refer to them like that :)
[10:50] <hateball> wasnt it proposed that there'd be rolling release ubuntu, alongside LTS? that would solve much headache
[11:22] <BluesKaj> hi all
[11:34] <konrados> morning :)
[11:36] <konrados> Is there a gui or console app, which, like bvi, will allow me to open files, showing the hex codes of bytes in the same time (along with "normal" text) but, when I select "normal" characters, it will highlight the hex equivalents and vice-versa?
[11:42] <acheronuk> konrados: ghex and a few others I think?
[11:42] <konrados> thanks, I'll try it.
[11:43] <BluesKaj> konrados: think your question might get  a more complete answer in a chat like ##linux
[11:44] <yossarianuk> hi - having one major(ish) issue ...
[11:44] <konrados> BluesKaj yeah, I already wanted to do this, but what acheronuk said worked :)
[11:44] <yossarianuk> When I add a bridge interface using the network manager gui - it doesn't appear in the network-manager as a list of connections
[11:44] <yossarianuk> it does if I use nmtui
[11:45] <konrados> acheronuk, ghex seems to be exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
[11:45] <yossarianuk> I am using 16.04+ppa - however before I added the PPA network-manager was completely broken - i.e yo couldn't edit any network-manager connection
[11:45] <acheronuk> konrados: great :)
[11:48] <BluesKaj> konrados:  good to hear
[11:53] <yossarianuk> any  ideas why I cannot see my bridge with network-manager ?:
[11:53] <clearnote01> Hello I had query. If I put proxy in /etc/environment in Kubuntu, does Firefox use that proxy when in user pref i select "Use system proxy"
[12:02] <Sert1991> Hi guys
[12:09] <yossarianuk> i.e - with 16.04 - you cannot add a network bridge via network-manager gui
[12:09] <yossarianuk> it doesn't work unless you use nmtui
[14:05] <nicols> hi!
[14:05] <nicols> large update today? what is new? :)
[14:06] <nicols> is it 5.6.5 in backports?
[14:08] <yossarianuk> nicols: thanks for pointing that out
[14:08] <yossarianuk> yes it is
[14:08] <yossarianuk> same level as neon now (not QT though)
[14:08] <yossarianuk> (neon is due to have 5.7 soon though)
[15:51] <Nani_Dragon> is there a way to use only free software in kubuntu? Disable non-free stuff?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> Nani_Dragon:  non-free isn't installed by default, so just don't install so called non-free packages
[15:58] <BluesKaj> personally I don't see the problem with non-free apps if they work, but the purist path isn't for everyone that's for sure
[16:03] <Nani_Dragon> thanks BluesKaj
[16:03] <Nani_Dragon> I just want to see if I can go full free
[16:03] <Nani_Dragon> if so, why wouldint you?
[16:03] <Nani_Dragon> just my thinking atm
[16:04] <BluesKaj> non-free is still free
[16:04] <BluesKaj> it's developed outside of the OS realm usually
[16:05] <Nani_Dragon> BluesKaj: free as in price? Or free to do what I want with?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> there very few apps that cost real money in linux
[16:06] <BluesKaj> for home users
[16:07] <BluesKaj> !non-free
[16:07] <BluesKaj> !info non-free
[16:07] <BluesKaj> hehe
[16:08] <BluesKaj> there used to be an infobot for non-free
[16:10] <BluesKaj> Nani_Dragon:  https://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/
[16:11] <acheronuk> !nonfree
[16:12] <Nani_Dragon> so is there a way to turn off non-free sources?
[16:12] <Nani_Dragon> just so I dont accidentally install one or something?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> oif course the info author wouldm't use the hyphen even though most users use it
[16:16] <BluesKaj> wouldn't
[16:17] <Lynoure> soee: my mouse problem turned out to be a hw issue, happening simulaneously in both the mice I tried. :)
[17:07] <em> my audio stopped working system wide
[17:07] <em> is there any way to restart/reboot audio without restarting the computer?
[17:08] <BluesKaj> open alsamixer and make sure your automute is disabled for starters, em
[17:11] <em> i tried opening the sound thing in the panel and it crashed plasma
[17:11] <beowuff> em: Probably something like systemctl restart alsa?
[17:12] <utkarsh> Hello I had a query. Can we use /etc/environment file to set System-wide proxy?
[17:14] <BluesKaj> em open alsamixer in the terminal
[17:16] <em> BluesKaj: okay done
[17:17] <em> i don't see anything that says automute
[17:18] <BluesKaj> navigate with the arrow keys to the far right and look for asutomute , use the down arrow key to disableit
[17:18] <BluesKaj> automute rather
[17:19] <em> there is no automute
[17:19] <em> s/pdif s/pdif 1  and s/pdif 2
[17:19] <em> that's it
[17:21] <BluesKaj> F6 choose the soundcard withe '0" beside it
[17:21] <BluesKaj> em: ^
[17:25] <em> i found it. I disabled the auto-mute
[17:27] <BluesKaj> ok now make sure the master and relevant ctls for your setup are maxed out for volume with no MM, if any are muted use the M key to disable mute
[17:29] <em> all of that seems correct.
[17:29] <em> but no audio
[17:29] <BluesKaj> next escape and do, sudo alsactl store, which should save your settings
[17:31] <em> okay done
[17:31] <em> it was the right one because i sawit changing when I put my head phones in and out
[17:32] <BluesKaj> i forgo to ask which audio chip is listed in alsamixer in the upper lreft
[17:32] <BluesKaj> left
[17:33] <genii> I'd take a wild stab and say some kind of Intel HDA
[17:33] <BluesKaj> yeah, most likely genii :-)
[17:34] <em> the default one is:  HDA Intell HDMI
[17:34] <em> but that one had no settings at all
[17:35] <em> only when it put it on F6 Soundcard #1  which is: HDA Intel PCH
[17:35] <em> does it have any options.
[17:35] <em> but that isn't the default when I open alsamixer
[17:36] <em> this is a problem ie had before and it does get fixed by turning the computer off and back on again
[17:36] <em> I just though maybe I can learn some way to do it so i don't have to turn off the computer
[17:36] <BluesKaj> yeah , that damn setting has become default for some reason, but you can change it in system settings.multimedia>device preferences and then in the harware tab
[17:38] <em> in the settings where it lets me test speaker placement i heard sound
[17:38] <em> but i don't hear sound in chrome
[17:41] <BluesKaj> just to be sure run, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, if the driver loads properly there won't be any output from that command
[17:42] <BluesKaj> you also might need to reboot
[18:22] <BluesKaj> oops, my desktop froze ...had to do a hard reboot
[18:29] <em> BluesKaj: Yeah i did a hard reboot also
[18:29] <em> sound came back
[18:29] <em> it's just weird
[18:55] <BluesKaj> em:  there's a bug with intel hda drivers not loading after updates/upgrades, it's been around for a over a yr , but it doesn't seem to be important to the devs
[20:21] <nsaw81> hi
[20:24] <nsaw81> Is there a possibility in an UHD (4K) resolution to scale all applications that the fonts and icons are readable? I've tried to setup the dpi vom 96 to 150. This helped a lot, but some applications (for example java applications) does not change its apperance?
[20:36] <valorie> !drivers
[21:20] <plusEV> hey, i have a good theme going on my Kubuntu 16.04, but there is one one problem. When I type into the youtube serarchfield my font is so faded and grey I can bearly see it. Crazy thing is that when I type in any other search field like in google for example the font is normal black and easy to read. Does anyone know why this happens , and how I can fix it?
[21:21] <plusEV> ok I just noticed it is more than youtube. but on google it is normal.
[21:24] <valorie> that's very strange
[21:24] <Zren> Which browser?
[21:24] <valorie> sounds like a browser issue though?
[21:24] <plusEV> firefox
[21:26] <plusEV> yea I have tried messing around with the themes in the OS and sometimes it resets my firefox to plain white standard theme thing. but now i have a look of my theme within the browser and it is messed up again
[21:27] <plusEV> when it resets to the standard white firefox it is fine
[21:28] <Zren> Oh, it's gtk breeze-dark
[21:28] <Zren> Weird that it doesn't have a white reset stylesheet for the browser.
[21:30] <plusEV> Zren: so were to change that do you know?
[21:30] <Zren> application style > gtk
[21:30] <Zren> Though that'll change the color of all gtk windows.
[21:30] <Zren> iunno how to do a firefox only rule
[21:31] <plusEV> Zren: GTK2 and 3?
[21:31] <plusEV> those?
[21:32] <plusEV> lols yea changing those fixed it
[21:32] <plusEV> nice ty :D
[21:33] <plusEV> but they come with the OS right? someone should patch that if they do. ;)