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happyaronFJKong: needs fixing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/158866206:22
ubot5Launchpad bug 1588662 in Canonical System Image "The word "My roll" is not translated to Simplified Chinese in video scope." [Medium,Triaged]06:22
FJKongnot fix yet? happyaron06:23
happyaronFJKong: the translation suggested is not correct06:24
FJKongwhich one?06:25
happyaronMy roll06:26
seb128hey happyaron FJKong06:29
seb128good morning desktopers06:29
FJKongseb128: hey seb06:29
FJKongwhat's My Roll stand for?06:30
FJKonghappyaron:06:30
happyaronseb128: hey06:30
happyaronFJKong: look for "Camera Roll" in iOS06:31
pittiBonjour tout le monde !06:35
FJKongI mean in Chinese My Roll means "我的胶卷" or "我的相机"?06:35
seb128salut pitti06:37
seb128wie gehts?06:37
pittiseb128: prima, danke! und Dir?06:40
seb128auch gut, danke!06:40
ochosimorning everyone!06:43
didrocksgood morning guys!06:44
ochosiquick question, as i want to look into gtk3.20 theming issues (following up on Laney's email on the desktop ml) i was wondering whether the recommended way to get it in 16.04 was still the gnome3-staging ppa or whether you guys have your own 3.20 ppa06:44
pittibonjour didrocks !06:45
pittihey ochosi06:45
ochosioh wow, silly me, just realized Laney mentioned it in the email (at first i thought that was only for the theme, but i realize now it's a lot more than that...)06:45
didrockshey pitti ;)06:46
pittiseb128, Laney: "There are still issues with ubiquity and gnome-terminal left to resolve" (gtk-3.20 PPA); so is that safe to upgrade if I use g-t all day long?06:46
ochosihmpf, ok, that's yakkety only. so my question did make *some*sense06:46
seb128hey ochosi06:46
* pitti tries in a VM first, let's be careful06:46
seb128pitti, ochosi, I don't know for your questions, I'm still on xenial06:47
ochosiyeah, same here06:47
seb128and I've not played with/looked at gtk 3.2006:47
ochosiand again, same :) but i really think i should start to as you guys are pushing it for 16.1006:47
seb128yeah06:51
seb128talk to Laney when he's online06:51
seb128maybe he can copy those packages to xenial in the ppa06:51
seb128I see no reason next gtk wouldn't build fine on xenial06:51
ochosiyeah, i guess06:52
ochosiit's likely just untested06:52
pittidoesn't need anything from glib 2.49?06:52
seb128gtk 3.20 is glib 2.4806:55
seb128we follow current glib06:55
seb128and n-1 gtk06:55
pittiso multiple tabs in g-t look awful07:02
pittiand right-click popup menus in all apps have no border at all07:03
ochosisounds like theming issues07:03
pittinautilus isn't themed correctly07:03
seb128https://youtu.be/RTwQQVGC2kc?t=24107:04
seb128wth with this guy07:04
pittibut I'm not using g-t tabs and firefox works, so good enough for me :)07:04
seb128hey chrisccoulson07:04
* pitti installs it on his laptop07:04
pittioh, Martin Schulz07:05
seb128^ farage trolling EU parliement07:05
seb128that guy is an idiot07:05
pittinot really trolling07:06
pittihe's saying "We want out, but pretty please keep all the benefits"07:06
seb128rrrriight07:07
seb128the trolling part was telling them "who is laughing now" or "none of you never had a proper job/did anything of your life"07:07
pittiyeah, ridiculous07:10
pittiI'd say that it's almost impossible to be in a parliament and *not* having had a "proper" job before07:14
* pitti goes to water the garden for some "proper" work07:15
seb128enjoy!07:15
chrisccoulsonhi seb12807:17
chrisccoulsonwe're embarrassed by nigel farage btw07:19
seb128chrisccoulson, hey! I can imagine ... how are you otherwise?07:22
seb128going to grab something to eat, bbiab07:24
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pittihey chrisccoulson!07:39
pittichrisccoulson: every country has its buffoon now :) *cough* Gauland *cough*07:44
Sweet5harkg'morning desktoppers!08:03
willcookehey Sweet5hark08:03
Laneymorning!08:04
ochosimorning :)08:05
seb128hey Sweet5hark willcooke Laney08:06
Laneywhat's up08:06
Laneyno I don't plan to backport all the packages but someone could do that if they want08:06
pittihey Laney!08:06
ochosiLaney: so i went ahead and tried your ambiance-gtk3.20 port, seems there are at least some small things still left to iron out (e.g. the menubar-items seem to jump around when you click them)08:07
LaneyI'm aware08:07
LaneyI said that there were bugs and please don't report them08:07
seb128do we have a pad or such with known issues?08:07
LaneyYou should get a head start on porting your theme08:07
pittiyeah, some bug/check list would still be useful I guess08:08
ochosiLaney: yeah, that was the reason why i looked into yours ;) i also looked at the patch provided by some guy in fedora for the xubuntu theme, but at first glance everything looks still fairly broken08:09
ochosii presume you didn't use SASS?08:09
Laneyhttps://trello.com/c/EXpA6lKW/8-look-into-gtk-3-2008:09
LaneyNo08:09
ochosik08:09
pittiLaney: nautilus is completely mis-styled08:10
ochosithat'd be the way i would like to go (if i find the time) for better maintenance08:10
pittiLaney: the other issues I saw after 1 min are already on that list; thanks08:10
LaneyWhat does completely mis-styled mean?08:10
ochosiLaney: anyway, good job! i know how much work / pain it is08:10
LaneyIt can be improved, but I think that "completely" is quite harsh08:11
pittiLaney: well, where do I begin -- it looks so completely broken, it's hard to enumerate it all; hang on, doing a VM and making a screenshot08:11
Laney...08:11
pittiI guess not for you then :)08:11
pitti"insert health warning here", haha08:12
pittiLaney: oh, another one: "desktop background is black" (my VM has the default background, and it disappears after the upgrade)08:13
Laneyyeah, that's weird, it seems to happen some time08:14
Laneydoesn't on my desktop, but I saw it in a VM08:15
Laneyhoping Trevinho will look at that for me08:15
TrevinhoMorning08:16
pittiLaney: http://picpaste.com/gtk320-cr5sDEmb.png08:16
seb128hey Trevinho08:17
pittiLaney: g-t, control-center etc. look reasonably correct, just nautilus is completely off08:17
seb128is that nautilus > 3.15?08:17
pittiwhatever is in yakkety08:17
Laneynot the one in the ppa?08:17
pitti3.20.108:17
seb128that's the ppa one08:17
pitti... or the PPA, yes08:17
seb128and yeah, there is a reason we reverted to the old one in xenial08:17
pittithis is yakkety du jour + PPA du jour08:17
pitti"de l'heure" actually :)08:18
seb128:-)08:18
TrevinhoHi seb128, Laney and pitti!08:18
Laneywhat reason?08:18
pittihey Trevinho!08:18
didrockspitti: de la minute même ? :)08:18
Laneynothing to do with themes, that's for sure08:18
pittididrocks: en effet !08:18
seb128Laney, no menubar and the patch is almost impossible to update08:18
seb128big icons08:18
seb128csd08:18
didrocksit's all Laney!!! you sent an email, everything will be your fault from now own :p08:18
seb128the copy dialog embedded08:19
seb128Laney, no, it doesn't have to do with theming08:19
seb128it's just that the new version is looking like Ubuntish and lacking some patches we can't easily update08:19
Laneydidrocks: I should have mailed the flavours privately08:19
Laneypitti: http://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/nautilus.png08:20
pittiLaney: ah, you are using the dark theme, might that be it?08:20
LaneyRadiance isn't updated08:20
Laneythe mail says that08:20
pittiLaney: ah yes, if I switch to Ambiance it looks like your's08:20
Laneycool08:21
pittiLaney: sorry, I actually forgot that Radiance isn't the default..08:21
Laneynp08:21
pittijust odd that it seems to look reasonable for all non-nautilus stuff08:21
Laneysurprised that other stuff looks good...08:21
ochosiLaney: so just copying the packages from your PPA straight to xenial wouldn't work?08:23
pittiwhat's wrong about doing this in y?08:24
ochosinot much, it's just that we have some dev PPAs set up with gtk3 ports of Xfce components and so far everybody was working on Xenial, so we have nothing for Yakkety yet08:25
LaneyMaybe if you copy it to a different PPA08:25
LaneyGo for it if you want08:25
ochosiLaney: if i just do that it complains about a missing release file08:25
Laneywhat does?08:25
ochosiapt does08:25
pittithat sounds like you want to add an apt source for xenial for a ppa that only has yakkety08:25
ochosii copied the yakkety pkgs over to an empty PPA with target series xenial08:26
Laneyprobably didn't get built (yet) then08:27
ochosii checked copy binaries without rebuild08:27
pittithat needs a publisher cycle, so might still take some 15 mins08:27
ochosioh ok08:28
ochosii'll try again then08:28
ochosii guess i was mislead by the sync finishing so quickly08:28
pittithat only copies the packages in LP database's brain08:29
pittithe publisher then translates that to the usual apt repo indexes (/dists/...)08:29
pittiochosi: but a binary copy isn't what you want anyway08:29
ochosihmm, good to know. i guess some status message/hint about that would be cool :)08:29
ochosioh08:30
pittiochosi: then you might just as well add the PPA source with "yakkety" directly08:30
pittii. e. if the y debs work on xenial, just use them, otherwise you have to rebuild them anyway08:30
ochositrue, i guess i'll test them directly first08:31
ochosiwell that was only a convenience thing, so testers could straight add that PPA for xenial08:31
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, I'm not too bad thanks. And you? :)09:00
seb128I'm good thanks!09:01
chrisccoulsonpitti, heh. We seem to elect a disproportionate amount of buffoons (eg, boris johnson) :)09:02
Laneychrisccoulson: I emailed Chris Leslie to ask why the only time you ever hear from him is when he's bashing his party's leader and he sent a rant back in reply :)09:06
chrisccoulsonhaha09:07
andyrockgood morning09:08
seb128hey andyrock, how are you?09:09
Laneymorning andyrock09:09
seb128Laney, who is Chris Leslie?09:09
Laneymy MP09:09
seb128ah ok09:09
Laneyaka tedious basher of Corbyn09:09
seb128you got a reply on topic or a random thanks for your email?09:09
Laneyit was on topic09:10
seb128nice09:10
Laneynot that he cares very much about the opinion of someone who didn't vote for him :P09:10
seb128lol09:10
seb128he doesn't know that :p09:10
pittibut he.. that09:10
Laneyerrrrrm09:10
Laney:)09:11
pittior did you start with "I hate you, but please do this for me" :)09:11
LaneyI said something about how I might have been persuaded over to his party, but blah blah blah09:11
Laneyhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000865 <- very safe seat, he can afford to not care09:12
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TrevinhoLaney: can you please ack https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1608 ?09:28
Laneyok09:30
Sweet5harkLaney: I assume the Tory candidate in the constiturncy is ranting even more aganst their leadership?09:31
seb128Trevinho, we should get going with doing a u-s-d SRU if we don't want to miss LTS .109:32
LaneySweet5hark: Thankfully they tend to go quiet between the elections :)09:32
Trevinhoseb128: yep09:32
Trevinhoseb128: I'm in that too09:32
Trevinhoseb128: also for gtk one... The one that fixes the menu09:33
Trevinhoseb128: did you upload it?09:34
seb128no09:34
seb128the one where I said Laney might help while I was in Boston?09:34
seb128I though maybe you would sort it out09:34
seb128I guess I can have a look this afternoon09:34
Trevinhoseb128: thanks09:34
Trevinhoit would be nice to have also the transfer dialog fix in09:37
seb128is that fixed in yakkety?09:37
Trevinhonot yet, he's finishing that09:38
seb128k09:38
seb128also the lock screen ones09:38
seb128I guess we can do an SRU next week09:38
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, I'm preparing the branch in the meantime09:41
TrevinhoLaney: the thing of the black nautilus bg i something I always experienced in VMs though... Especially when resizing the guest window. Then once restarted nautilus things worked09:55
TrevinhoI think that was fixed when I moved nautilus to use upstart to launch though, for some weird reason09:56
hikikoTrevinho, I have some branches that change a little scale, expo and u7 (I fix a performance issue in u7 and add some options to skip slow effects in scale expo), should I make 1 MP for all changes or you prefer separate ones?09:58
Trevinhohikiko: it depends how big it is, it can be one if you split things in different commits09:59
hikikook09:59
Trevinhohikiko: if you can have that ready quickly I can add this to the next landing and SRU it if needed09:59
hikikoTrevinho, how quickly?09:59
Trevinholike in two days?09:59
willcookeTrevinho, I'd like to talk to you about that, just off to do an interview now, will email soon.  Want to see what we can get in to .110:00
willcookegotta go10:00
willcookemore later10:00
Trevinhook10:00
LaneyTrevinho: Not fixed by restarting any more10:02
hikikoTrevinho, yes, that's feasible, I'll have it tomorrow :)10:04
TrevinhoLaney: ah... Weird that it does to me... mhmh10:07
LaneyTrevinho: This changed with 3.20 it seems10:12
Laneyusing qemu + kvm btw10:12
TrevinhoI see... I can't just reproduce it though, I only have it when I resize the guest window on runtime or when lightdm has been launched10:13
Trevinhothis is with VMware instead10:13
muktupavelsTrevinho, Laney: maybe related to black background - https://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?h=gnome-3-20&id=8c0f5970e71a9b6c786e3e14785f2691c731cd3810:19
muktupavelsif that happens with Ambiance and not with Adwaita...10:19
Laneymuktupavels: We have that one :(10:19
Laneywithout that it *never* worked10:19
Laneynow there's some kind of race condition10:19
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muktupavelswhat is ppa for gtk 3.20 and theme changes? I am  downloading yakkety iso now.10:20
Laneyubuntu-desktop/gtk32010:20
Laneyi'm just doing some tweaks for gnome-terminal atm10:21
popeyjust upgraded a machine from 15.10 to 16.04, it appears to have disabled all compiz plugins including unity10:51
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popeyi managed to get ccsm working via tty0 and enabled unity, and it re-enables a bunch of others it needed10:51
ochosiLaney: hmm so i guess your gtk3.20 would work in xenial, however, the libmirclient and libwayland-client0 pkgs are too old (even if i don't need any of them ofc)10:51
popeyis there some way to reset the unity config completely10:51
Laneyochosi: those are configure flags, you can disable them10:52
popeyfixed via http://askubuntu.com/questions/423725/ubuntu-12-04-32bit-cant-login11:06
czajkowskipopey: willcooke thank you :)11:09
czajkowskiturns oout when I break things, I break them in a fantastic way!11:10
popey\o/11:10
czajkowskiat least you wer here, if not A) I wouldn't have upgraded B) when it all went so very wrong, you were here to fix it :)11:11
czajkowskimental note only do upgrades when popey is on standby!11:11
* popey puts his cape on11:12
seb128ochosi, you better copy src and rebuild binaries11:33
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ochosiseb128: yeah, i'll look into that later today hopefully11:59
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seb128willcooke, http://paste.ubuntu.com/18099974/ that seems to give me a working gedit31014:03
willcookeseb128, reading14:03
willcookepopey, czajkowski (cc: seb128, davmor2) -  I've just done a test upgrade of a vanilla 15.10 -> 16.04 and it worked fine.  So I don't think this is a global issue with upgrades.  Thanks for the info though.  desktoppe14:13
willcookeoops14:13
willcookeLet's all keep an eye out for upgrade problem reports though14:14
popeywell, czajkowski went 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10 -> 16.04, lemme know when you've tested that :)14:14
seb128willcooke, was there an issue reported?14:15
willcookeshould make any difference14:15
willcookeseb128, there was not14:15
ochosiwhy not directly 14.04 -> 16.04? isn't that the preferred upgrade path?14:15
davmor2ochosi: because people like to use the latest releases and not stay on lts14:16
davmor2ochosi: popey means she did it over the 2 years not in one hit14:16
ochosioh14:16
seb128popey, I did all the steps from 12.04 to 16.04 on the machine I'm currently using, does that count? ;-)14:16
seb128that includes the sequence you listed at leaast14:17
popeyochosi: because the user was on 15.1014:17
seb128still unsure what we are discussing14:17
seb128is there any real issue/bug somebody hit?14:18
popeynot sure if it's a bug or not.14:18
seb128ah, I see backlog14:18
popeyuser upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04, unity crashed during the upgrade, and on restart, unity plugin was disabled.14:18
seb128it's an old compiz known issue14:18
seb128compiz unloads plugins from its config on error14:19
popeyI'd imagine that's fun for someone who doesn't have an ubuntu ""expert"" in their house.14:19
seb128"reinstall"14:20
seb128but yeah...14:20
willcookeseb128, for gedit310 which version of snapcraft are you using?14:24
seb128willcooke, 2.1114:25
seb128why?14:25
seb128do you get some error?14:25
willcookeyeah I get that Settings schema 'org.gnome.gedit.preferences.editor' is not installed error again14:25
willcookeretrying the build with a clean env14:25
seb128do yo get any error when you start the gedit310 command?14:26
seb128can you pastebin the stdout log14:26
willcookeseb128, http://paste.ubuntu.com/18101216/14:26
seb128willcooke, try to gtk-launch gedit14:27
seb128hum14:27
seb128in fact the first run should export the env14:28
Trevinhoseb128: in the sru silo, I'm adding also the USD changes, or you manage those by yourself?14:28
seb128willcooke, did you push your current snapcraft yaml?14:28
willcookeseb128, sec14:28
seb128Trevinho, feel free to add the ones you have in mind, can you give me the list though to see if I wanted some more?14:28
Trevinhoseb128: I've no a list yet, I'll figure it in a bit14:29
seb128k, let me know when you have one14:29
Trevinhoseb128: I'll do a team branch though, so feel free to contribute14:29
seb128k14:29
willcookeseb128, pushed https://github.com/8none1/gedit31014:31
seb128willcooke, hum, snap list ... do you have several gedit ones?14:32
seb128I would recommend to remove it (several times if needed) and snapcraft clean & snapcraft14:33
willcookerebuilt and now it works14:33
seb128if that's still an error let me know I can help debugging14:33
seb128k14:33
seb128good14:33
willcookeI always uninstall14:33
seb128dunno what was wrong then14:33
seb128some leftover part I guess14:33
willcookeis it me, or just it look a bit big, like fonts and buttons all look massive14:33
seb128looks fine to me14:34
willcookeseb128, and settings are not preserved - is that expected?14:34
seb128yes14:34
willcookeseb128, does it look right to you here?  http://imgur.com/D0DJXhh14:38
willcookeactually, try this: http://i.imgur.com/D0DJXhh.jpg14:38
seb128yes14:38
willcookefonts in the text menus looks a bit squished14:38
willcookemeh14:39
willcooke:)14:39
alexarnaudHello all :) !14:39
willcookethanks a lot seb12814:39
seb128willcooke, yw14:39
seb128willcooke, weird that you don't have menu exported14:39
willcookeI have inline menus turned on14:39
seb128oh14:39
willcookeor whatever its called "Menus in the title bar always displayed"14:40
seb128well still you get a menubar in the gedit win there14:40
willcookeohh14:40
willcookeoh yeah14:40
seb128I staged unity-gtk3-module in my try earlier14:41
seb128but didrocks' gtk3 part is supposed to pull it in I though so I removed it14:41
seb128maybe you need to add it back to the snapcraft.yaml if that's not working14:42
willcookeworth a try14:42
willcookeI think I need 2.12 for d_idrocks love14:42
seb128could be14:42
seb128you machine seems to be good14:43
seb128your*14:43
seb128like you seem able to iterate easily, which is nice ;-)14:43
seb128mine is a bit slower to build I think14:43
seb128needs to use that laptop refresh!14:43
willcooke:)14:43
willcookethis is a fairly low spec i3 I think14:44
willcookebut it's had an easy life14:44
willcookecouple of spreadsheets and thats it14:44
willcookenah, still getting a menu bar14:47
willcookemeh14:47
seb128can you remove it14:53
seb128reinstall14:53
seb128start and pastebin the initial start stdout log?14:53
willcookerebuilding atm14:54
willcookeseb128, and now it works15:02
willcookeseb128, seems like snapcraft clean is not doing what I think it does15:02
seb128do you use it like that without argument?15:02
willcookeyeah15:02
seb128it should wipe out everything when you do that15:02
seb128like ls in the dir should show only the yaml15:02
willcookeyeah, that doesnt seem to work then15:03
seb128well and the .snap15:03
seb128weird15:03
willcookewhen I manually delete stage, etc15:03
seb128ah15:03
willcookethen it works15:03
seb128weird15:03
willcookeI wonder what happens if I confine it15:04
seb128Trevinho, andyrock, we need to SRU that gnome-menus fix for the missing applications in dash fix? (just saw a sru vcs email for the unity fix)15:24
seb128andyrock, can you make https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1574693 SRU compliant? impact/testcase/regression potential?15:26
ubot5Launchpad bug 1574693 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "No shadows under menus on Unity." [High,In progress]15:26
Trevinhoseb128: andyrock was waiting for a review IIRC15:26
Trevinholibunity side is fine15:27
seb128Trevinho, gnome-menus you mean?15:27
Trevinhoyeah15:27
seb128Trevinho, d_esrt gave the +1 and I uploaded to yakkety15:27
seb128Trevinho, andyrock said that if libunity landed without gnome-menus so weird thing would happen iirc15:27
Trevinhoah15:27
Trevinhomh, let's wait him to comment then15:28
Trevinhoseb128: well..... actually in yakkety we've that situation15:28
seb128Trevinho, what situation?15:28
* Trevinho doesn't notice anything wierd15:28
Trevinholibunity is in, gnome-menus no15:28
seb128Trevinho, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/3.13.3-6ubuntu415:29
seb128wdym?15:29
Trevinhoah... I thought it wasn't ACKed that... Then ok15:29
Trevinhowe need that change too15:29
seb128yeah, what I wrote just before15:29
seb128<seb128> Trevinho, d_esrt gave the +1 and I uploaded to yakkety15:29
* Trevinho missed the line :)15:29
seb128want me to do the SRU?15:29
seb128I can do it now15:30
Trevinhoseb128: yes thanks15:30
seb128I'm doing some other one15:30
seb128just uploaded the gtk one15:30
Trevinhonice15:30
seb128to yakkety and xenial15:30
seb128willcooke, got update-notifier uploaded as well15:30
willcookeseb128, \m/ thanks15:30
seb128yw!15:31
seb128andyrock, can you make https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1506744 SRU compliant as well?15:35
ubot5Launchpad bug 1506744 in GLib "Newly installed applications do not show in the dash" [Medium,Confirmed]15:36
Trevinhoseb128: I'd go with these https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-settings-daemon-team/unity-settings-daemon/x-sru2/+merge/29866815:54
seb128Trevinho, looks good to me, though the screensaver ones seems a bit more complex/difficult to test so I wonder if I should just delay those to the next round... wdyt?16:06
seb128Trevinho, oh, you might want to revert r4141, I don't think the behaviour change is going to be fine with the SRU team without arguing16:07
Trevinhoseb128: ah... Mh, ok... Well I don't think they would argue.. But ok16:08
seb128I think they would and they should16:08
seb128it's a feature/behaviour change16:08
seb128we avoid those in the lts16:08
Trevinhoseb128: as for the screeensavero ones, they're pretty tested as it all upstream code, but if you want do that in two stages...16:08
seb128your laptop making sound when it used to be quiet might annoy users16:08
Trevinhook16:08
seb128Trevinho, your call for the screensaver ones16:08
TrevinhoI've that usd running here for weeks with no troubles... So I'd go for adding it16:09
seb128it's tested upstream but the backport is a different codebase, we might miss followup changes or such16:09
seb128k16:09
seb128we are going to test the SRU anyway16:09
seb128so should be good :-)16:09
seb128Trevinho, thanks for working on that!16:09
Trevinhonp16:11
Trevinhoseb128: usd branch updated16:17
Trevinhoseb128: fyi I wrote this for cherry-picking, https://gist.github.com/3v1n0/63ea0c9f08d10bee9e50 it might be useful. Although is far from being clean :)16:25
seb128it's not trivial ;-)16:26
andyrockseb128: hey sorry i was biking16:42
seb128andyrock, no worry, I hope you enjoyed it :-) is the weather nice in Italy?16:43
andyrockseb128: perfect for biking16:44
andyrock:D16:44
seb128great!16:44
* Trevinho would sweat too much16:44
Laneymeow17:02
Laneytime to go give blood17:02
Laneylaters!17:02
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TrevinhoLaney: for your country? :-D17:15
seb128k, dinner time, have a nice evening desktopers!17:52
willcookenight seb12818:01
willcookenight all19:33
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