[00:00] <dax> if so: one of these days I should probably play that game until I successfully land something. last time I poked at it the flights were very... one-way
[00:01] <tgm4883> yea
[00:01] <tgm4883> My space station is a nasty mess right now
[00:01] <daftykins> Kerbicide
[00:08] <Ben64> you can make spacestations in ksp?
[00:13] <tgm4883> Ben64: yea. With stock, it's limited to just joining pieces together with the little docking ports. But with mods, apparently your kerbals can get out and attach struts and stuff
[00:13] <tgm4883> I've got a mission to make a moon base somehow too
[00:16] <Ben64> i should buy that game
[00:17] <tgm4883> I think it's pretty fun
[00:17] <tgm4883> There's a mod that adds multiplayer too
[00:17] <tgm4883> which is neat
[00:19] <OerHeks> hmmm
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:45] <ducasse> morning
[11:22] <BluesKaj> hi all
[16:30] <tgm4883> nacc: how come we can't have more polite people like that
[16:31] <nacc> tgm4883: global statistics -- it's not just us, in my experience (meaning amongst the many people I interact with daily, we're hitting the same statistics of nice people). Then again, I blame the hipsters in Portland for that :)
[16:31] <tgm4883> nacc: you're in portland?
[16:32] <nacc> tgm4883: yep
[16:32] <tgm4883> nacc: nice, I work in Lake Oswego
[16:32] <nacc> tgm4883: small world! :)
[16:32] <tgm4883> lol, I feel like I should  have known that since we're both in the oregon channel
[16:33] <nacc> tgm4883: heh, just made that connection myself :)
[16:34] <dax> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-June/039420.html
[16:35] <nacc> dax: yep, and shuttleworth chimed in a bit later :)
[16:35] <tgm4883> dax: sounds like a plan to me
[16:35] <nacc> sarnold's point is very good, though (same thread), providing i386 in a non-LTS and then removing it in the next LTS gives users no support path. Seems better to remove it in 16.10
[16:47] <tgm4883> nacc: I was going to argue against that but then I read his whole response and it makes sense to me. Dropping isos for 16.10, although the i386 repos should remain through 2021
[16:50] <nacc> tgm4883: right, just don't let there be new installs (aiui) easily
[16:51] <nacc> it sounds like mini and other d-i automated builds might still exist
[17:00] <daftykins> 32-bit is getting the chop? nice
[17:01] <nacc> tgm4883: looks like slangasek chimed in, so the 18.04 plan will stick :)
[17:03] <tgm4883> nacc: nice. All this is kinda a moot point for me. All my boxes run amd64, and I'm probably dropping the Mythbuntu ISO completely
[17:03] <nacc> tgm4883: yeah, i've not touched i386 in some time, except when debugging issues other people hit :)
[17:08] <daftykins> i still run my IRC and small web server VM here as 32-bit to reduce RAM use, but other than that niche i don't think i'd run anything 32-bit, mmm
[17:08] <nacc> daftykins: was/is it a noticeable memory consumption difference?
[17:09] <daftykins> i can't say i've seen any numbers first hand, so it might be more in my head by this point
[17:09] <daftykins> only got 4GB RAM in my file server sadly :/ old school DDR2 core 2 duo still for now
[17:11] <nacc> daftykins: np
[17:12] <daftykins> little 14.04 running apache and irssi :)
[19:51]  * tgm4883 just found out we have to move a data center :(
[19:53] <daftykins> ruh roh
[19:54] <Bashing-om> tgm4883: Sweat condition 5, and big bucks to make it happen ?
[19:55] <tgm4883> Bashing-om: possibly. We have some other guys that deal with the hardware more than I do, so they'll travel and move everything. But it means failing over applications to the DR site which is a fair amount of work
[19:56]  * tgm4883 blames the brits
[19:57] <daftykins> pulling servers out of London?
[19:57] <tgm4883> yep
[19:57] <daftykins> seems a bit knee-jerk
[19:57] <Bashing-om> overtime ! and the real big bucks ! Oh what joy !
[19:57] <tgm4883> We already have clients calling about it
[20:04] <Bashing-om> Bringing up a data center, no matter how much testing is done prior to going live, always those side issues not aware of . Ouch, where did that truck come from ?
[20:12] <tgm4883> Bashing-om: +1
[21:06] <Bashing-om> Gonna go cut grass for a bit .. be back soonest .
[23:36] <Bashing-om> Aaaaannndddd back .
[23:51] <OerHeks> Hay
[23:53] <daftykins> :D
[23:53] <daftykins> grass all murdered?
[23:55] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Unfortunately not ALL .. 6 acres .. a bit at the time . It never ends till it snows .
[23:55] <daftykins> :O
[23:56] <Bashing-om> I get around just in time to start all over .
[23:58] <JanC> buy a sheep/goat/donkey