[00:00] if so: one of these days I should probably play that game until I successfully land something. last time I poked at it the flights were very... one-way [00:01] yea [00:01] My space station is a nasty mess right now [00:01] Kerbicide [00:08] you can make spacestations in ksp? [00:13] Ben64: yea. With stock, it's limited to just joining pieces together with the little docking ports. But with mods, apparently your kerbals can get out and attach struts and stuff [00:13] I've got a mission to make a moon base somehow too [00:16] i should buy that game [00:17] I think it's pretty fun [00:17] There's a mod that adds multiplayer too [00:17] which is neat [00:19] hmmm [04:27] good morning to all [06:45] morning [11:22] hi all === JanC is now known as Guest53913 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [16:30] nacc: how come we can't have more polite people like that [16:31] tgm4883: global statistics -- it's not just us, in my experience (meaning amongst the many people I interact with daily, we're hitting the same statistics of nice people). Then again, I blame the hipsters in Portland for that :) [16:31] nacc: you're in portland? [16:32] tgm4883: yep [16:32] nacc: nice, I work in Lake Oswego [16:32] tgm4883: small world! :) [16:32] lol, I feel like I should have known that since we're both in the oregon channel [16:33] tgm4883: heh, just made that connection myself :) [16:34] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-June/039420.html [16:35] dax: yep, and shuttleworth chimed in a bit later :) [16:35] dax: sounds like a plan to me [16:35] sarnold's point is very good, though (same thread), providing i386 in a non-LTS and then removing it in the next LTS gives users no support path. Seems better to remove it in 16.10 [16:47] nacc: I was going to argue against that but then I read his whole response and it makes sense to me. Dropping isos for 16.10, although the i386 repos should remain through 2021 [16:50] tgm4883: right, just don't let there be new installs (aiui) easily [16:51] it sounds like mini and other d-i automated builds might still exist [17:00] 32-bit is getting the chop? nice [17:01] tgm4883: looks like slangasek chimed in, so the 18.04 plan will stick :) [17:03] nacc: nice. All this is kinda a moot point for me. All my boxes run amd64, and I'm probably dropping the Mythbuntu ISO completely [17:03] tgm4883: yeah, i've not touched i386 in some time, except when debugging issues other people hit :) [17:08] i still run my IRC and small web server VM here as 32-bit to reduce RAM use, but other than that niche i don't think i'd run anything 32-bit, mmm [17:08] daftykins: was/is it a noticeable memory consumption difference? [17:09] i can't say i've seen any numbers first hand, so it might be more in my head by this point [17:09] only got 4GB RAM in my file server sadly :/ old school DDR2 core 2 duo still for now [17:11] daftykins: np [17:12] little 14.04 running apache and irssi :) [19:51] * tgm4883 just found out we have to move a data center :( [19:53] ruh roh [19:54] tgm4883: Sweat condition 5, and big bucks to make it happen ? [19:55] Bashing-om: possibly. We have some other guys that deal with the hardware more than I do, so they'll travel and move everything. But it means failing over applications to the DR site which is a fair amount of work [19:56] * tgm4883 blames the brits [19:57] pulling servers out of London? [19:57] yep [19:57] seems a bit knee-jerk [19:57] overtime ! and the real big bucks ! Oh what joy ! [19:57] We already have clients calling about it [20:04] Bringing up a data center, no matter how much testing is done prior to going live, always those side issues not aware of . Ouch, where did that truck come from ? [20:12] Bashing-om: +1 [21:06] Gonna go cut grass for a bit .. be back soonest . [23:36] Aaaaannndddd back . [23:51] Hay [23:53] :D [23:53] grass all murdered? [23:55] daftykins: Unfortunately not ALL .. 6 acres .. a bit at the time . It never ends till it snows . [23:55] :O [23:56] I get around just in time to start all over . [23:58] buy a sheep/goat/donkey