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MooDoomorning all06:57
knightwisemorning MooDoo07:01
diploMorning all07:01
knightwisehey diplo07:02
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.07:17
knightwisehey brobostigon07:20
brobostigonhi knightwise07:21
MooDoohowdy howdy howdy07:21
brobostigonhi MooDoo07:22
twagerAnyone tell me if a Motorola phone will mount ok in Linux?08:27
knightwisehmm. thinking of getting a fitbit to track my movements throughout the day08:39
knightwisenot sure what model to get08:39
popeymy son is saving up for one08:45
popeysome of the kids in his class have them08:45
popeythey have contests at play time08:45
popeyhe's looking at the fitbit charge hr08:45
popeyi think08:46
foobarryi have a mi band for only £1008:47
foobarrylasts 2 months between charges08:47
foobarrydoes what a fitbit does08:48
diploI have a cheaper one too foobarry ( app is called VeryFit ) it's doing its job of motivating me I guess, but do want to upgrade in the future08:56
diplohttp://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/garmin-vivoactive-hr-watch-extra-large-E3312150?id_colour=124&channel_code=110&s2m_product_id=190500_124&utm_source=google&_$ja=tsid:45886&gclid=Cj0KEQjw4827BRDJvpbVuKvx-rIBEiQA2_CzsP4jD3vLc3-uiCzMmPENBz-47KXYg456jo6EnXEKLKQaAh318P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds08:57
diploSomething like that one, although I've seen them quite a bit cheaper ( that was the first link )08:57
knightwiseWhoah :) thats pricey09:01
knightwisethe garmins are cool tough09:01
knightwisepopey: i was thinking the same thing , the HR does seem pretty cool.09:02
diploI want one to use swimming as well, I've been quite ill over the last few years and want to track my progress with exercise without making it to much of a thing09:02
knightwisethat way I can track which co-workers tend to get my heartrate up during meetings09:02
knightwiseAs in "who stresses me out the most"09:04
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy Hug Holiday Day! 😃09:08
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dOwHzCHfgA watch out for the 80's hair09:31
zmoylan-pithey won't need prisons in the future just six months unblocking the drains of the holodecks will replace a life sentence... :-P09:33
JamesTaitdavmor2, +109:35
TwistedLucidityknightwise, popey: My g/f has the Charge HR. Works really well, shame no GNU/Linux support from them. Her company (USA owned) had a step challenge. 15k steps in a week. She does more than that in a day!09:55
popeyTwistedLucidity: there's a fitbit app on ubuntu phone :)09:55
TwistedLuciditypopey: Did not know that.09:56
TwistedLucidityI'm in two minds about getting one. I'd have to remove it for most of the sports I do, so it'd miss out on all my exercise09:56
TwistedLucidityAlso, I'm not sure I like the idea of some company gathering that level of detail on me and no way I'd link it to my life insurance (as Prudential keep asking me about)09:57
zmoylan-pithere are 100s of ways of feeding fake data into fitness trackers.  attaching them to dogs, cats etc... :-)10:12
davmor2popey, TwistedLucidity: currently it is only a receiver not a syncer I think10:15
davmor2ie shows the data from the dashboard on the phone rather than syncing the data to the site10:15
knightwiseTwistedLucidity: we try to do 10k a day10:33
TwistedLucidityknightwise: 2 two dogs...10:51
knightwiseTwistedLucidity: me too :)10:51
knightwisethere11:41
knightwiserebooted the server sec11:41
knightwisedamn :) had good uptime11:41
MooDoohehe i rebooted my irc box the other day boooo11:42
MooDooonly coz i moved from a vmware host to rhel11:43
knightwiseMooDoo: you running that Vm in the cloud or at home ?12:00
davmor2MooDoo: you owld slacker 'ow am ya12:02
davmor2MooDoo: and admitting to RHEL for an irc host shame on you ;)12:03
davmor2MooDoo: and none of that it's what I use at work malarkey12:03
MooDooknightwise: home12:03
MooDoodavmor2: I'm good thanks and no i must admit it's partly due to me wanting the RHCSA12:04
davmor2MooDoo: ohhhhhh12:04
davmor2nice12:04
MooDooso signed up for the RH dev suite12:04
MooDoo1 rhel license unlimited vm's :)12:05
TwistedLucidityMooDoo: Is that the free RH dev thingy, or is it €€€€s?12:06
MooDooTwistedLucidity: yes mate, it was $99 but now it's free as long as you sign up.12:06
foobarryMooDoo: does it give access to access.redhat.com?12:10
awilkinstalk of VMs reminds me to make a Win10 VM while I still have my Win7 pro key lying around12:12
awilkinsHas anyone used a Win 7 key to create a Win10 VM? Was wondering if it then refuses to activate or invalidates the Win712:14
DJonesawilkins: Don't know about win 7, Iused a Win8.1 key to reinstall without issues12:16
awilkinsTa12:16
awilkinsAlready had a lovely issue where I lost the machine ID from my VM and it invaidated my VM12:16
awilkinsHave now backed that up...12:16
awilkinsNote : Importing an OVA file into VirtualBox creates a new machine ID12:17
MooDoofoobarry: yes it does...12:34
MooDoofoobarry: it is self support though, you can't log tickets etc, but you do get all software updates12:35
foobarrythats fine. i often arrive at access.redhat KB pages and can't view them12:35
MooDoo:)12:36
foobarryThe Committee has decided to defer its decision on this petition until the Government Digital Service has done all it can to verify the signatures on the petition. We have already had to remove 77,000 fraudulent signatures. The Committee wishes to make clear that, although it may choose to schedule a debate on this petition in due course, it only has the power to schedule debates in Westminster Hall12:48
foobarry– the second debating chamber of the House of Commons. Debates in Westminster Hall do not have the power to change the law, and could not trigger a second referendum.12:48
TwistedLucidityMooDoo: Ta much12:53
knightwisei dont see how they are going to turn this descision around12:54
TwistedLucidityThey're not12:54
TwistedLucidityI watched the Holyrood debate yesterday. Rousing stuff. Right, this isn't #politics and I need lunch!12:54
knightwisehmm lunch13:17
* knightwise had lunch13:17
Seeker`knightwise: they can turn it round however they like, the referendum isn't legally binding13:19
diddledanhttps://twitter.com/TechnicallyRon/status/74744238160832922313:50
sharwoodHi, just setup IRC. Can anyone confirm it's working please.14:03
DJonessharwood: Nope, its not working :(14:04
sharwoodlol, thanks!14:04
DJonesYeah we can see you fine14:04
sharwoodjust wanted to know I was up and running. :-)14:05
DJonesNo worries14:05
DJonesMain support channel for Ubuntu issue is #ubuntu (most users), this channel is more a general chat channel14:06
czajkowskiHowdy doody folks14:26
czajkowskirandom Q: would people be interested in kick starting the Ubuntu hours again across the country14:26
czajkowskiPicking a date/time14:26
czajkowskiand having a cup of tea with people who want to turn up and chat about Ubuntu14:26
czajkowskino talks, presentations14:26
czajkowskibut once a month meetup and just see the community face to face14:26
diploProblem I found with those is they suited large cities, no one really around this area14:36
diploEnjoyed meeting you and the Alans at the BBQ though14:36
diploAlbeit that was a few years ago now14:36
diddledanthis is what I was faffing-about 11 years ago: https://clustergroup.org/index.php/Main_Page15:31
diddledanI was young and naive back then15:32
davmor2czajkowski: that's not a question it's a trap I tell you15:55
czajkowski:(16:07
Myrttireminder: if you ever need to buy Sugru for anything, put the pack in the fridge immediately. It keeps it fresh and usable for years after BBD16:09
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA16:10
TwistedLucidityMyrtti: Mine dry old an go solid after ~1 month16:11
TwistedLucidityI try to fix as many things as possible at once to use the pack up16:11
TwistedLucidityczajkowski: Not wanting to dismiss your idea, but isn't that a LUG?16:11
MyrttiTwistedLucidity: we've got a bag that's got pouches with BBD in 2013, just used one and they're still good16:12
davmor2czajkowski: I say it in the nicest possible way, but can see the inevitable can you organise one in your town city, for which I have no time :(16:12
TwistedLucidityMyrtti: "BBD"?16:12
MyrttiBest Before Date16:12
czajkowskihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour16:13
Myrttior however you acronymise it16:13
TwistedLucidityMyrtti: Oh, if the pouches are sealed; sure. Partially used....no.16:13
Myrttithey do go bad tho. and quite quickly16:13
Myrttiespecially in the warm16:13
czajkowskiTwistedLucidity: ^16:14
TwistedLucidityczajkowski: Thanks. Given the death of LUGs over the last few years, it's good to see some outreach going on. A shame the general public don't care about their IT. Convenience is king.16:15
TwistedLucidityRight, sun is finally out and dogs want walking.16:15
czajkowskiI was about to say the SLUG meets once a month16:16
czajkowskibut Twisted left16:16
diddledanczajkowski: that's an interesting idea - I like that it's pretty much informal16:18
diddledanjust turn-up and talk with people16:19
popeyyeah16:26
popeymight do one near me16:26
czajkowskididdledan: aye exactly17:14
czajkowskifigured we could do with giving the loco some CPR :)17:14
mappshm17:17
mappswork party tonight17:17
daftykins:o17:21
SebthreeBQM10HDhi18:57
daftykinsso there you go, against what i considered to be conventional wisdom... a duff CMOS battery can prevent POST19:33
zmoylan-piit's fun finding out these things...19:42
daftykins:)19:42
daftykinsonly my old core 2 quad desktop now, but that was a new one on me19:43
popeyevening slackers19:43
daftykinswb dear leader ^_^19:43
diddledaninteresting: https://docs.microsoft.com/teamblog/introducing-docs-microsoft-com/?i19:48
diddledanMS are acknowledging that 15year-old code is crusty19:49
daftykinswho knew?19:49
MartijnVdSnot Microsoft19:49
diddledanquote: "The first thing we did was evaluate our existing content infrastructure TechNet and MSDN. Both sites are built on a 10-15 year-old brittle codebase with an archaic publishing and deployment system that was never designed to run on the cloud."19:49
zmoylan-pireading microsoft help has always been horrible19:50
diddledanzmoylan-pi: that's because it was made for IE419:50
zmoylan-pii'm talking about the hlp files that came with vb... :-)19:50
diddledanouch19:50
diddledanyeah those are evil19:50
zmoylan-piand the hlp files for qb which were even more archiac19:51
diddledanI bought a copy of VB6 for students way back in 1999 which came with "a copy of msdn"19:51
zmoylan-piand the physical manuals for same...19:51
zmoylan-pithat's why i kept the hlp file from vb5 around.  as bad as it was it was still easier to navigate than msdn19:51
zmoylan-piand in a lot of cases more up to date...19:52
diddledanthis was in chm iirc19:52
zmoylan-pithat's the format19:52
diddledanwhy is mono shunned in a lot of linuxy circles?20:08
diddledanI think I probably knew but now I've forgotten?20:09
zmoylan-pibecause it's a social disease? :-P20:11
zmoylan-pibecause it's seen as a microsoft trojan infiltrating linux at the extreme end and just crap at the the moderate end20:12
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diddledanfree sstickers for developers: https://stickers.onion.io/20:16
m0nkey_any developer?20:51
daftykinsseemed to require a github login, must be stealing your creds!21:05
zmoylan-pibut free stickers!! :-)21:06
daftykins:D21:09
daftykinsaww ok i just plugged the mains back in and nope, no POST again with a new CMOS battery21:09
daftykinscan only think the mobo is losing it totally21:09
zmoylan-pido a cmos reset afterwards to be sure?21:09
daftykinsi have to do that to even get POST back21:09
daftykinsobscure query... anyone got a nice core 2 quad capable LGA775 motherboard knocking around spare? :)23:58

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