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ochosihave any of you guys done some gtk3.20 testing07:03
flocculantwouldn't know where to test it from 07:22
ochosithere's a PPA for yakkety07:25
ochosippa:ubuntu-desktop/gtk32007:25
ochosinot for xenial (yet)07:25
flocculantochosi: nope - not tested that 07:26
flocculantcan do though :)07:26
ochosiif you do, i guess i should also give you a greybird version along with it07:26
Unit193No really? :P07:26
flocculantnope07:27
flocculantno greybird 07:27
ochosihere's a branch: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/tree/gtk3.2007:30
ochosifwiw, i will most likely drop greybird's current versioning scheme and just align it with gtk3 release numbers07:30
flocculantI'll look later - that time of the day again07:30
ochosithat way it'll be clearer what greybird version goes with which gtk307:31
ochosisure, hf flocculant 07:31
flocculantmmm - stuck with the old 'what do I do with that then' when I've got it :p11:10
flocculantochosi: didn't bother with the gtk320 ppa yet - seems to just be a bunch of unity and ubuntu packages, certainly not greybird11:27
ochosiflocculant: the ppa contains gtk3 itself, which is the important part12:00
ochosiand greybird you'll have to install from the branch i linked to above, it's basically not much more than untaring it to ~/.themes12:01
ochosibut i'm currently considering to look into backporting that gtk3 PPA to xenial so we can also test it here12:01
flocculantochosi: ok - so some things are rather ewww at a first glance e.g. http://i.imgur.com/uNKZzpH.png15:53
flocculantindicator panel, some setting dialogues, some apps (firefox (but that's probably due to the ff which is in that ppa), synaptic, fileroller15:55
flocculanthttp://i.imgur.com/f9Mx7Lt.png kind of sums it up 15:55
davmor2flocculant: eeeewwww15:56
flocculantdavmor2: but it's ok - party line is blame Canonical :p15:59
davmor2flocculant: why it's all imports from debian, blame them :D16:00
flocculant\o/16:00
flocculantpersonally I think I'll blame Gove :D16:00
davmor2borris 16:01
flocculantas well16:01
flocculantochosi: though I find that if instead of grabbing that and unpacking but git clone it - not the same19:38
ax562hello20:09
ochosihi20:10
ochosiflocculant: aha, how so?20:10
flocculantochosi: panel is ok now20:11
ochosiflocculant: ah ok, now i looked at all your screeners. the indicator stuff is actually sorta expected20:11
ochosireally? i'm stunned20:11
ochosiwhat changed between "then" and "now"?20:11
flocculantI git cloned instead of downloading and unpacking, logged out - picked the cloned one20:12
ochosiyou always picked the 3.20 branch though, right?20:12
ochosicause with master it'll just look mostly fugly20:13
flocculantauthenticate dialogue has no password 'box'20:13
ochosior like the calculator, which is straight adwaita20:13
flocculantyea - not picked the normal greybird20:13
flocculantyup calc is naff20:13
ochosiyeah, i also saw more broken than working stuff tbh20:13
ochosii wonder how ppl on github or fedora can claim that it's "ok"20:13
flocculantwho knows - I'm with you on that :)20:14
ax562source is all bugered up?20:14
Unit193GTK3, so of course.20:14
flocculantochosi: oooh - so not actually able to highlight url in browser to copy it to here lol 20:16
flocculantbear in mind - some 'new' firefox came from the ppa20:16
ochosiyeah, not sure about that one20:16
ochosilikely a build with gtk3 enabled though20:16
Unit193That's the default though...20:17
flocculantyea afaik20:17
flocculanti.imgur.com/7SMcojx.png 20:17
ochosiah right, well maybe they adjusted some stuff for the 3.20 changes20:17
ochosithat's again adwaita20:18
ochosiwhich means the branch doesn't get applied at all20:18
flocculantmmm - ff is pretty lost ... 20:18
ochosiUnit193: any idea why a .changes file i supposedly successfully dput to a ppa (at least the terminal says i did, and trying again says it's already there) doesn't show up in said PPA at all?20:19
flocculantochosi: can't cope with that - purging that ppa lol 20:20
flocculantI'll set it all up in a vm though20:20
Unit193ochosi: 1. Got an email about it?  2. Uploaded it to the right repo?  3. Do you have an .upload file next to .changes now?  4. Right release targetted?20:21
Unit193I tried it in Debian, this looks pretty normal greybird I think...20:21
ochosi1. nope 2. i would say yes..? 3. yes 4. yup, xenial20:21
Unit193Wait a couple minutes just to make sure.20:22
ochosii pushed it 6hrs ago...20:22
Unit193(Because, sometimes LP takes a few...Oh.)20:22
ochosihttps://launchpad.net/~ochosi/+archive/ubuntu/gtk3.20 is the repo20:22
ochosiand i mean there it even tells you the instructions on how to dput20:23
ochosiso it's hard not to put it to the right repo20:23
ochosithe only thing i can think of is that the "." is not a good idea20:23
Unit193https://launchpad.net/~ochosi/+archive/ubuntu/gtk3.20/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all20:23
ochosihardly any PPA has a dot in it (the docs state dots are ok though)20:23
ochosino no, those are just the failed copy-rebuilds from Laney's PPA20:24
ochosimy package is -ppa220:24
ochosierr ~ppa220:24
Unit193Ah, OK.  So, try  dput -f  it.20:24
ochosiok, shall i also sudo it or what..? :D20:24
ochosii thought pushing a newer package would automatically push it above the old one20:25
ochosiand then that didn't happen so i deleted the other pkg20:25
ochosiwhich is why that build history is a bit misleading now20:25
ochosiok, the output says (again) that the upload was successful20:26
ochosialllllright, i think i might have had a problem with 2)20:27
Unit193ochosi: FWIW, I said '-f' because you already have an '.upload' file.20:29
Unit193ochosi: What is it you want a screenshot with this Greybird?20:29
ochosiyeah, i supposed so. just in a sarcastic mood since i can't seem to get something so easy to work20:29
ochosiwell one thing is that i wanna find out what the current state of it is with the port of poma20:29
ochosithe other is that i need a devel environment if i shall port20:30
Unit193Any reason you can't use the other PPA?20:32
ochosiyeah, dependency on libwayland-client0 and libmirclient (or something) that doesn't work in xenial20:32
ochosiso basically i tried to just disable both backends in debian/rules and that's my "change" for building with xenial20:33
Unit193OK, that's a pretty good reason.20:33
ochosihm, anyway, it still doesn't seem to show up there20:36
ochosiguess i'll have to wait some more20:36
Unit193...If all else fails, tar it all up and pass it to me?20:36
ochosiok, will do!20:37
ochosii'd really like to learn something here though20:37
ochosi(for a change)20:37
Unit193Sure, but I'm a horrible teacher.  Also if I can poke it with a stick... :P20:37
ochosii'm ok with learning just very little as well20:38
Unit193But nothing you specifically wanted a screenie of?20:41
ochosiwell sure, if you have one available i'm interested in almost any app20:41
ochosii tried in my yakkety vbox and everything just looked really really broken20:41
ochosi(not flocculant broken, cause that was just adwaita, i mean really broken)20:42
Unit193ochosi: https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/gtk320_greybird.png20:45
ochosigtk3 terminal?20:46
ochosialso, could you give focus to evince? somehow it doesn't look like greybird's headerbar20:47
ochosior maybe it does, just the disabled color is a bit blander than i remember20:47
ochosimaybe open a file so i see the scrollbar, that's usually the easiest indicator20:47
ochosiand the open-file dialog would be nice to see20:47
Unit193GTK2, not touching the GTK3 terminal yet. :P20:48
ochosiit's working really ok though20:50
ochosii've been using it for a few weeks alredy20:50
ochosialready20:50
Unit193...How the heck do I paste a url into evince?!  Screw it, terminal is better.20:51
Unit193https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/evince.png https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/opendialog.png20:53
ochosiok, both is adwaita20:57
ochosiso it's not working(tm)20:57
ochosior if it is, it's not a port, just a copy of adwaita20:57
Unit193Really?  Adwaita is usually more childish.20:57
ochosinope20:59
ochosithat's it's current look20:59
knomeits20:59
knome:P20:59
ochosiyeah21:00
ochosithank you for your contribution.21:00
knomeyou can't thank me enough.21:00
ochosiUnit193: is it possible that LP thought that i didn't change anything and consequently rejected my upload?21:00
Unit193It doesn't care.21:01
ochosiright, another thing i read in the docs...21:01
ochosithen i guess it just doesn't like me21:02
ochosiok, on to fixing greybird with xfce4-notifyd-gtk3 and then i'll do a release of it21:34
ochosiok, finally some support for xfce4-notifyd-gtk3 in greybird22:15
ochosii just wonder whether any of this will still work with gtk3.20...22:15
ochosianyway, night everyone22:15
Unit193G'nighty.22:16
ax562night22:41

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