[04:14] <ax562> hi
[09:33] <int-main> Which app provides PDF viewing in Xubuntu?
[09:41] <lytton> I guess that evince is on as defult pdf viewer
[09:42] <nindustries> man, can't wait to switch over to xubuntu from regular ubuntu
[09:42] <nindustries> unity+compiz is a cpu hogg
[09:52] <bazhang> nindustries, just sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop
[10:00] <akxwi-dave> then select the xubuntu desktop at login... :-)
[10:52] <xubuntu05w> Hello! A happy Xubuntu user here from Greece! I need a quick advice on chat plugins that Firefox tells me I am missing. Tried to connect to ePSXe help chat to report sth and Firefox says I am missing sth.
[10:58] <nindustries> bazhang: yeah, I would like a reinstall
[13:36] <xubuntu90d> help/help
[13:36] <xubuntu90d> strange...
[13:36] <xubuntu90d> hello?
[13:39] <xubuntu90d> Oh well, if someone has a real name (not like me) he should be knowing, right?
[13:40] <xubuntu90d> Hi
[13:42] <xubuntu90d> hi?
[13:42] <knome> umm,
[13:42] <knome> try asking the question first?
[13:42] <knome> and it's not strange that in a channel of volunteers nobody replies in the first minute...
[13:43] <xubuntu90d> i read about that
[13:43] <tnc> hi guys
[13:43] <xubuntu90d> ok, so well i am (obv) new to xubuntu, used windows ... so i installed and it is runnig quite slow now. even firefox freeses sometimes
[13:44] <knome> xubuntu90d, and what are your hardware specifications, and which xubuntu version are you using?
[13:44] <xubuntu90d> amd turion64 (10 year old laptop) and i downloaded the latest LTS version
[13:45] <knome> xubuntu90d, hom much ram?
[13:45] <tnc> mee to.. I started use xubuntu last month
[13:45] <tnc> sorry, me too
[13:45] <xubuntu90d> donßt know, how can i check?
[13:47] <knome> xubuntu90d, type "free -h" without the quotes in a terminal and press enter
[13:47] <knome> xubuntu90d, then look at the row "Mem:" and column "total"
[13:47] <tnc> you must look at total
[13:48] <knome> tnc, if you read my message, you'd know i told them that...
[13:48] <xubuntu90d> it says 1,8G
[13:49] <knome> ok, that should be enough for normal use...
[13:49] <knome> so when does your firefox freeze?
[13:49] <knome> when watching videos?
[13:49] <xubuntu90d> this is why i tried to install it
[13:49] <knome> doing something with flash?
[13:49] <xubuntu90d> using flahs
[13:49] <xubuntu90d> *flash
[13:49] <knome> i mean, please realize that if your laptop is 10 years old, you are practically running an OS 10 years from the future...
[13:50] <Pici> knome: thats a good comparison
[13:50] <knome> flash is resource-intensive
[13:50] <knome> you might have enough RAM, but the CPU might not be able to cope with it
[13:51] <xubuntu90d> this is why i wanted to slim it down from XP to xubuntu
[13:52] <xubuntu90d> (and because of no more support)
[13:52] <xubuntu90d> so is there anything to change about it?+
[13:58] <knome> don't use flash :P
[13:59] <xubuntu90d> will be quite difficult in the www
[13:59] <knome> well, then i guess you're looking at a hardware purchase...
[13:59] <knome> i mean, you should be able to do the most basic things with that hardware
[13:59] <xubuntu90d> meh, this is what i wanted to circumvent
[13:59] <knome> but flash can make even some of the newer hardware slow
[14:00] <xubuntu90d> so slimming down the system wouldn t make a difference?
[14:01] <xubuntu90d> like unistalling stuff or something
[14:01] <knome> if flash takes most of the CPU performance, not really
[14:01] <knome> for comparison, do websites without flash work well?
[14:02] <xubuntu90d> ok-ish
[14:02] <knome> then i don't think any modern operating system is able to help you much
[14:03] <knome> there are even faster alternatives than xubuntu, but they are pretty much also less user-friendly, and you might get the non-flash websites and other tasks that work "ok-ish" work better, but i still don't believe flash stuff is going to be miraculously better
[14:04] <xubuntu90d> and any alternatives for flash itself, but getting the content from it arent there i guess?
[14:05] <knome> there are some free alternatives, but i don't think they are very actively developed, and they aren't very good
[14:05] <knome> flash itself is slowly phasing out, so i don't think there's a good reason to keep up the development either
[14:06] <knome> you can plead your favorite flash-website managers to stop using flash
[14:06] <xubuntu90d> how?
[14:07] <knome> contact them?
[14:07] <xubuntu90d> ...
[14:07] <xubuntu90d> totally into thinking the linux-wonders could tecnically solve this.
[14:08] <knome> i'm sorry if it comes to you as a surprise, but xubuntu isn't a miracle machine that fixes slow hardware or brings world peace :)
[14:08] <knome> well again, if websites use a proprietary technology that takes a lot of resources, how could "linux-wonders" fix that?
[14:09] <xubuntu90d> nono, i did not think this, but to get this old machine into running and working. I dont want to play games or such. just using the web, listen tomusic etcc.
[14:09] <knome> you can totally do that, just not flash
[14:09] <knome> well that's wrong, you can do flash too, but it might not be super fast
[14:10] <knome> (and even with linux, slow hardware is slow hardware)
[14:12] <xubuntu90d> ok then, ett stort tack
[14:13] <knome> varsågod ;)
[15:17] <xubuntu53w> hi
[19:13] <toni_> ciao
[20:15] <xubuntu08w> hi, is there a way to make ubuntu scale upto 4K reolution?
[20:16] <xubuntu08w> *xubuntu
[20:16] <Pwnna> do you just want to scale the interface?
[20:16] <Pwnna> oh..
[23:55] <chuckmcm> Greetings everyone, is there some way (other than recompiling the source) to change the *default* setup of two screens?
[23:56] <chuckmcm> I ask because when ever my screens are blanked, and then I wake them up, the setup reverts to "Mirrored" which is not what they were last set to
[23:56] <chuckmcm> I know the system "remembers" somehow what they were set to as the login from the session selector sets them correctly.
[23:57] <chuckmcm> Since they are both display port screens, I would not be surprised if this was yet another side effect of xfsettingsd not "understanding" such screens
[23:57] <chuckmcm> but if someone has a quick way to say "when in doubt, set the screens this way ..." I would love to hear it, then I could use that to paste over the symptom