 Krita launched after a reboot
[00:15] <ahoneybun> clivejo: I did lol
 Turn it off and back on again
 Universal fix
 usually
 lol
[01:35] <ahoneybun> omg mparillo
[01:35] <ahoneybun> the heck
[01:35] <ahoneybun> we need to kill the wire NOW
[06:53] <valorie> ahoneybun: why do we need to kill the wire NOW?
[07:50] <starbuck11> valorie / ahoneybun: https://www.elegantthemes.com/blog/tips-tricks/import-export-wordpress-website
[07:59] <jimarvan> good morning!
[08:05] <soee_> hiho
[08:24] <acheronuk>  soee: kdesdk-kioslaves has longstanding probs compiling with libsvn 1.9, which is probably why it's not even packaged in main archive at the moment
[08:24] <soee_> acheronuk: but from my undestanding thi si some package that only devs are interested with ?
[08:25] <acheronuk> debian git have dropped the svn part, but not sure if that leaves enough to be worth the bother
[08:26] <soee_> acheronuk: are you abel to put 16.04.2 to backports staging?
[08:27] <acheronuk> soee_: no. I have zero permissions to do anything with the ppas
[08:27] <acheronuk> I'm still learning this, so that is probably just as well.
[08:28] <acheronuk> jimarvan: Good morning. dojo day :)
[08:31] <soee_> oki :)
[08:46] <jimarvan> yeah dojo day! :D
[08:48] <soee_> no no 
[08:48] <soee_> todays is the match day ... Pol - Por :)
[08:51] <jimarvan> i can predict the score
[08:51] <jimarvan> 0-1
[08:51] <jimarvan> because it's Santos xD
[10:19] <soee_> !info libreoffice-kde
[10:22] <Odur> Why are not khelpcenter updated to 5.6.5?
[10:46] <acheronuk> Odur: there wasn't any new version of khelpcenter released with 5.6.5
[10:47] <soee_> acheronuk: are you on yakkety ?
[10:48] <acheronuk> Odur: it's now in applications instead, so will get updated with that presumably
[10:49] <acheronuk> soee_: XX on my real machines. YY in a VM
[11:02] <Odur> acheronuk: Ok, I see. Thanks
[11:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:04] <ahoneybun> yofel: we also need to remove it from Planet KDE too
[13:04] <ahoneybun> wire that is
[13:11] <yofel> ahoneybun: yeah, I forgot that in the mail. I posted a note on trello about KDE (needs a kde dev, which we have too)
[13:22] <ahoneybun> I just saw the twitter post about it
[15:41] <clivejo> soee_: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.2_xenial.html
[15:42] <soee_> clivejo: you supposed to have a free time :)
[15:42] <clivejo> I been driving for hours!
[15:42] <soee_> an working ? :D
[15:42] <clivejo> nope driving in the rain
[15:43] <soee_> :/
[15:43] <clivejo> fed up being taxis man
[15:45] <soee_> probably my brother beeing in Dublin have same weather problems these days :D
[15:45] <clivejo> whats he doing in Dublin?
[15:46] <soee_> 3 weeks  tryout as a driver (transport/tir)
[15:46] <clivejo> eak
[15:46] <clivejo> big rig?
[15:46] <soee_> rig ?
[15:47] <clivejo> lorry/truck?
[15:47] <clivejo> HGV
[15:48] <soee_> aye
[15:48] <clivejo> dont you guys drive on the other side of the road?
[15:49] <soee_> we drive right side here in Poland :)
[15:50] <clivejo> we drive the centre of the road
[15:50] <clivejo> and then pull to the left if you meet someone
[15:50] <soee_> so you have all roads onde sided ?
[15:50] <clivejo> nope
[15:51] <clivejo> keeps out of the potholes
[15:51] <clivejo> centre of the road is usually smoothest
[15:52] <soee_> http://giphy.com/gifs/cars-crash-horrifying-AcQvgASId24Ss
[15:52] <clivejo> brakes must have failed
[15:53] <clivejo> does he have lots of experience with roundabouts?
[15:55] <soee_> yeah
[15:57] <clivejo> hummm apps on xenial need newer frameworks
[15:57] <soee_> copy 5.23
[15:58] <soee_> as we have it in bckports now
[15:58] <clivejo> yofel: could/should I add the landing PPA as a build required PPA?
[15:59] <yofel> hm... do it for now if that helps you.
[15:59] <yofel> people will just need to be aware of that
[15:59] <clivejo> WWYD?
[16:00] <clivejo> whats the landing PPA url?
[16:01] <clivejo> anyone know off hand
[16:01] <clivejo> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa-landing?
[16:01] <yofel> that's bugfix/dev-release, backports is kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing
[16:02] <ahoneybun> clivejo: krunner seems to be running good now
[16:02] <yofel> bbl
[16:03] <clivejo> get it intregrated with Mycroft?
[16:03] <ahoneybun> XD no way
 ttfn
[16:03] <ahoneybun> I have no idea how to do that
[16:03] <clivejo> write code
[16:03] <ahoneybun> well yea
[16:03] <ahoneybun> but beyond me
[16:04] <ahoneybun> mm KDEConnect on Ubuntu touch would be cool as well
[16:07] <clivejo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auuQA0Q8qpM
[16:23] <jimarvan> aaand done with work
[16:24] <jimarvan> see ya later guys, going to do some studying for the dojo ;)
 Yay!
[16:24] <jimarvan> When is it? 20:00 right?
 https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/packaging-tutorial/packaging-tutorial.en.pdf
[16:24] <jimarvan> Sick_Rimmit if I counted how many times you are awesome
[16:24] <jimarvan> I would be rich by now
[16:25]  * ahoneybun is jealous
[16:25] <jimarvan> ahoneybun you are out of contest
[16:25] <acheronuk> 18:00 UTC?
[16:25] <jimarvan> there are not enough money to define you
[16:25] <jimarvan> ;D
[16:26] <ahoneybun> XD now your buttering me up XD
[16:27] <ahoneybun> mm Rick: https://www.flickr.com/photos/44748317@N08/27572569546/in/album-72157669534030306/
[16:27] <jimarvan> Dude I am the golden champion of flattery olympics
[16:27] <ahoneybun> wallpaper for your devices ;p
[16:28] <ahoneybun> so 1 1/2 hours from now
[16:29] <jimarvan> heading home see ya later ;)
[16:29] <ahoneybun> later
[18:09]  * acheronuk multitasks and watches apps-staging
[18:12] <vip> hi ho
 hiho
[18:33] <yofel> heyho, join the dojo ;)
[19:01] <jimarvan> omg we had a build! :D
[19:01]  * jimarvan cheers
[20:06] <clivejo> Plasma 5.7 on Depot :)
[20:08] <acheronuk> must try to sort access to depot
[21:40] <clivejo> !info plasma-desktop xenial
[23:02] <clivejo> welcome
[23:10]  * mamarley is installing Yakkety on his brand-new NUC6i5SYK!
[23:11] <clivejo> mamarley: make sure you test apps!
[23:11] <mamarley> clivejo: I have already been doing that on the 4 other systems I have running Yakkety.  No problems to report. :)
[23:11] <clivejo> :)
[23:11]  * mamarley might just have too many computers.
[23:12] <clivejo> send me one :P
[23:12] <clivejo> and run me a nice fibre cable to my doorstep 
[23:13] <mamarley> clivejo: The only one I could afford to lose at the moment would be my old Core 2 Duo 2gHz laptop with 4GB RAM. :/
[23:14] <clivejo> I think thats roughly what I got currently
[23:14] <jimarvan> :D
[23:14] <mamarley> One belongs to my employer and if I sent it to you, I would get canned.  One is a server that must remain up.  One is a laptop that I must have for traveling.  The other two are practically brand new and I can't financially afford to lose them.
[23:15] <clivejo> Im only messing !
[23:15] <jimarvan> mamarley: tell them you are doing it for science!
[23:15] <jimarvan> ;)
[23:15] <clivejo> eakk
[23:15] <soee_> http://news.softpedia.com/news/calamares-2-3-universal-linux-os-installer-released-with-full-disk-encryption-505866.shtml
[23:16] <jimarvan> ooooh
[23:16] <jimarvan> system installer!
[23:16] <jimarvan> Python based too?
[23:16] <mamarley> Maybe we should try to do some kind of crowdfunding thing to get clivejo a new computer!
[23:17] <soee_> +1 ;)
[23:17] <jimarvan> soee_: i will read on that then
[23:17] <jimarvan> :)
[23:17] <mamarley> I would definitely chip in.
[23:17] <jimarvan> I think I already owe kubuntu team 25 pounds
[23:17] <jimarvan> *right clivejo? xD*
[23:18] <jimarvan> freeciv build! ;)
[23:18] <valorie> omg, I hope that debian would switch to calamares, so ubuntu would switch too
[23:18] <valorie> encryption made easy sounds like a dream
[23:18] <valorie> even swap.....
[23:19] <jimarvan> :)
[23:19] <jimarvan> valorie: does LVM work well on kubuntu?
[23:19] <jimarvan> I never tried it
[23:20] <jimarvan> i mean for snapshoting
[23:21] <jimarvan> aaaanyway :D
[23:21]  * yofel uses encrypted LVM on his work notebook
[23:21] <yofel> works fine
[23:22] <jimarvan> yofel: you are a star
[23:22] <valorie> I've never used encryption very successfully
[23:22] <jimarvan> ye same
[23:22] <jimarvan> I used encrypted LVM on kubuntu 15.10
[23:22] <valorie> probably because my son did it for me, which leads to me not fully understanding 
[23:22] <jimarvan> but it  had issues
[23:23] <jimarvan> the thing is, as a tester you are dependent on LVM snapshoting to restore 
[23:23] <mparillo> For snapshotting with Kubuntu there is a poster on KFN who is a big fan of Btrfs. I bet Greygreek would be happy to provide some tips https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?70421-Massive-250-package-update-came-down-today!
[23:24]  * yofel tried LVM and btrfs snapshotting for dev release testing
[23:24] <yofel> never quite worked out for me
[23:24] <jimarvan> ye that is the feeling i got too, it was not like VBox Snapshots, you know?
[23:25] <jimarvan> mparillo: thanks man, i bookmarked it
[23:25] <jimarvan> so many things to check, so little time! :(
[23:25] <yofel> apt-btrfs-snapshot makes update snapshotting trivial, but only if you have lots of subvolumes to exclude the unimportant stuff - or don't mind some data loss - and restoring a btrfs snapshot is fairly annoying right now
[23:25] <jimarvan> hmm
[23:26] <jimarvan> yofel: you mean because it is slow?
[23:26] <jimarvan> or because it may be crashing?
[23:27] <yofel> nah, I'm using btrfs here right now (without snapshots, with compression). Restoring a snapshot involved passing the correct volume in grub - as long as you have the correct kernel selected and installed on said volume
[23:27] <yofel> doable, but annoying
[23:28] <yofel> oh right, and then you have to edit fstab later to make the selected volume the new default
[23:29] <jimarvan> -.
[23:30] <jimarvan> -.-
[23:30] <clivejo> yofel: the kubuntu-slideshow should be missing from the lastest ISO?
[23:30] <jimarvan> and now you remind me my problems
[23:30] <yofel> the crashyness isn't that bad these days. Never happened on this notebook, and on another system it was related to a buggy kernel and balancing
[23:30] <yofel> clivejo: yes
[23:30] <clivejo> anyone geared up to test that?
[23:30] <yofel> I do run into the occasional ENOSPC though. Seems like a never ending story
[23:31] <jimarvan> clivejo: test the iso?
[23:31] <yofel> but I do like running my partition at almost full
[23:31] <jimarvan> LVM does depend on linux kernel changes?
[23:31] <clivejo> download the lastest yakkety ISO and install Kubuntu
[23:31] <jimarvan> clivejo: ok
[23:31] <jimarvan> if the installer works :P
[23:32] <clivejo> it should with the slideshow missing
[23:32] <jimarvan> xD
[23:32] <jimarvan> ye ye
[23:32] <clivejo> if it has nothing to show, it cant crash :P
[23:32] <jimarvan> :(
[23:32] <jimarvan> poor thing :(
[23:32] <yofel> you mean ubuntu modifications? no. And AFAIK LVM is pretty solid and backwards compatible for a long time
[23:32] <clivejo> well thats my logic and Im sticking to it
[23:32] <jimarvan> clivejo: 100% with you
[23:33] <jimarvan> yofel: ye, then on the next installation I will give it a go
[23:33] <clivejo> until some amazing community member steps up and fixes it!
[23:33] <yofel> actually let me verify that the slideshow is gone
[23:33] <jimarvan> but
[23:33] <jimarvan> it is time for me to hit the bed
[23:33] <jimarvan> see ya tomorrow guys
[23:34]  * clivejo thinks we should give out gold stars
[23:34] <yofel> yup, gone on 20160630
[23:34] <clivejo> the Kubuntu Community award
[23:34] <jimarvan> cool
[23:34] <yofel> but yeah, I'm gone too, nini
[23:34] <jimarvan> clive
[23:34] <jimarvan> go to sleep :P
[23:34] <jimarvan> you see stars already
[23:34] <clivejo> Im hyper now
[23:34] <jimarvan> ;)
[23:35] <jimarvan> good night!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:35] <clivejo> I was so tired during the dojo
[23:35] <clivejo> almost fell asleep, now Im wide awake
[23:35] <clivejo> poking LP
[23:35] <jimarvan> stop the night coffee :P
[23:35] <jimarvan> anyway good night m8 thanks for the after dojo chat
[23:35] <clivejo> I dont drink coffee
[23:36] <jimarvan> stop the night tea 
[23:36] <jimarvan> or whatever kaffeine you are taking
[23:36] <clivejo> dont drink tea!
[23:36] <clivejo> sleeping pattern is messed up
[23:36] <jimarvan> warm color screen
[23:37] <clivejo> oh I packaged that for a guy one time
[23:37] <jimarvan> I give up :P
[23:37] <jimarvan> ciao! :D
[23:37] <clivejo> good night
[23:38] <clivejo> was called openlux
[23:42] <soee_> woho http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.2_xenial.html
[23:42] <soee_> looks pretty nice so far
[23:49] <clivejo> some PIM stuff not building
[23:50] <clivejo> BTW anyone who wants freeciv 2.5.4 on xenial, its here https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/freeciv
[23:53] <soee_> what is it ?
[23:54] <clivejo> a game
[23:54] <clivejo> http://www.freeciv.org
[23:54] <clivejo> god game
[23:55] <soee_> no time for gmes here :(
[23:56] <soee_> clivejo: we can't start with Plasma 5.7 in Yakkety until Qt 5.6 will land there ?
[23:56] <clivejo> want to get apps finished first
[23:57] <soee_> +1
[23:58] <clivejo> I got a bit of time today I didnt think I had, so run the backports
[23:58] <soee_> yeah, users have been asking about them on G+
[23:59] <clivejo> need help with kdesdk-kioslaves and minuet