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capum321hello00:03
wxlhow can we help, capum321 ?00:07
capum321my wifi isn't working. nmcli connection outputs http://termbin.com/5iok00:10
wxlcapum321: gimme `lspci -nnk` plz00:10
capum321http://termbin.com/lchc00:11
wxlcapum321: you don't have onboard wifi?00:13
capum321yes, i used on windows and more recently on mint xfce. it worked from the "zero point"00:14
capum321look this00:15
wxlcapum321: well i don't see a wifi device on your lspci list00:15
lynorianis it usb?00:16
capum321http://termbin.com/m5f4]00:16
capum321http://termbin.com/m5f400:16
wxlah i see00:16
capum321no it is a notebook full featured wireless00:16
wxlthe ethernet device provides the wifi00:16
capum321never happen to know that!00:17
wxlnever heard of that chip or that driver before, so will have to do some searching00:17
capum321wxl i remeber I had to adapter on windows one for cable, one for wireless00:17
capum321two!00:17
wxlhere's an example of someone with that ethernet chip but also a separate network controller https://askubuntu.com/questions/618150/wifi-problem-in-ubuntu-14-04-intel-corporation-pro-wireless-4965-ag-or-agn-kedr00:18
capum321are you 100% sure it the same chip?00:18
wxlthe pci id confirms it (11ab:4363)00:19
capum321i mean... same chip both ethernet and wireless!00:19
wxlexcept i don't see the separate wifi chip00:19
wxlon your list00:19
wxlyeah yours is usb!00:20
wxlnow i'm seeing it00:20
wxllook at the bus info on the wireless http://termbin.com/m5f4 (usb@1:1)00:20
wxlgive me `lsusb`00:21
capum321want to see the manual? http://suporte.itautec.com.br/eportaldownload_ptb/start.swe?SWERowId=2-AP7HXK&SWEField=s_3_2_28_1&SWERowIds=SWERowId0%3d2-AP7HXK&SWENeedContext=true&SWESP=false&SWEMethod=Drilldown&SWECmd=InvokeMethod&W=t&SWEVI=&SWEPOC=&SWETargetView=&SWEDIC=false&SWEReqRowId=1&SWEView=ITC+Driver+Download+TotalDrivers+Notebook+View&SWETVI=&SWEC=7&SWEM=&SWEBID=-1&SWESPa=&SRN=&SWEContainer=&SWETS=&SWETA=&SWEApplet=ITC+Drivers00:22
wxlyiiiiikes no thanks. `lsusb` will suffice. :)00:23
capum321http://termbin.com/3qyh00:24
wxlyep there it is00:24
wxlso you do have usb wireless00:24
wxlto put my mind at ease, give me the results of `rfkill`00:25
capum321'rfkill wifi' ?00:26
wxlyeah that works00:26
capum321no00:27
capum321rfkill list wifi ?00:27
wxlargh yes00:27
wxlsorry getting old and forgetful00:27
capum321http://termbin.com/za3n00:28
capum321no you are very helpfull thanks a lot00:28
wxlso that's good00:29
wxlbut clearly you're not getting a device id, so something's wrong with the kernel00:29
wxlwell, kernel driver00:29
wxldo you still have the mint installation?00:30
capum321when installed. it didn't have internet connection because no dhcp is enable on my router. and i didn't check to install third party drivers00:30
capum321which especifies wifi driver among others00:31
capum321mint no.. did clean install00:31
wxlah fooey00:31
wxli'm not seeing any recent complaints about this00:31
wxli did see back in 2008 or so people were using the xp driver but this was supposedly fixed shortly thereafter00:31
wxland again, that would be in the kernel00:32
wxlso if mint worked, this should just work......00:32
capum321i can get the iso?00:32
wxlhm?00:32
capum321i saw some solution which you get the driver from the iso using synaptic ?!00:32
capum321let me find the page00:33
wxlyou might be talking about the sort of thing you need to do with broadcom devices but this should not be the same00:33
capum321oh00:33
capum321i didn't understand you saying if mint worked, this should just work? what?00:34
wxlsupposedly your card is supported since you find 0bda:8189 in `modinfo rtl8187 | grep 8189`00:35
wxland that's the driver you're using00:35
capum321i never used modinfo?00:36
capum321but i can find 0bda:8189 part00:36
wxlit just gives you information on the specific kernel driver (module)00:36
wxlif you look at that one thing you sent (from hardinfo???) you're using the rtl8187 driver00:37
wxlmaybe you have another conflicting driver on the system00:38
wxllet's try `lsmod | grep rtl`00:38
capum321lshw -C network if it matters00:39
capum321ok00:39
wxlyeah that's what it was. it doesn't but i couldn't remember :)00:39
capum321http://termbin.com/2sgd00:41
capum321could I say there is four devices using this driver?00:41
capum321are*00:41
wxlno these are just drivers00:41
wxlso if you look at `modinfo rtl8187 | grep depends` you can see those other drivers are requirements of this one00:42
wxlso in order to all work, they should all be there, which they are00:42
wxland you don't appear to have any other drivers, so that's positive00:43
capum321something is missing ?00:44
wxlsomewhere. just haven't found it :)00:45
capum321let me help helping me. what should be the keywork to lookup ?00:45
capum321keyword*00:45
wxlhttp://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/rtl8187/ seems to suggest rtl8187 is the right driver00:46
wxlif you search through logs (syslog, dmesg), do you see anything relevant? maybe search for rtl8187 and look around instances of it00:47
wxlas far as i can tell you have nothing obvious that should keep it from working. you have the right driver for the device. there are no obvious blocks or conflicts.00:48
wxlin fact what you may want to do is watch the logs while you restart the module00:48
wxlyou can do `modprobe -r rtl8187` to unload the module00:48
wxlthen open up two terminals00:49
wxlin one do `tail -f /var/log/{syslog,dmesg}` (that bracket syntax works in bash, which should be default)00:49
wxlthen in the other, run `modprobe rtl8187`00:49
wxloh and do those modprobes with sudo00:49
wxl(or be root)00:49
wxlcapum321: i hope i have been helpful. i need to head home for the evening but feel free to ask questions. i'm sure someone else will be around01:01
capum321listen01:02
capum321what should i look for?01:02
wxlwell if you do what i say with watching your logs while you re-load the module, you should be able to get some output and see what errors come up01:02
capum321the terminal with tail? Ctrl + C ?01:03
wxlctrl-c to stop watching, yes01:03
capum321it connected !?01:04
capum321yes it is01:04
capum321why?01:04
capum321just unloading it?01:04
wxlif you unload it with modprobe -r01:05
wxland then load it with modprobe01:05
wxlthat's when it should give you errors01:05
capum321how to get the file?01:09
capum321just open /var/log/syslog ?01:09
capum321wxl ?01:09
nmidehi, does anyone have any experience with multi-head on lubuntu / lxde ? because of what in my opinion is just nvidia being jerks i can't get multiple monitors working on a single x screen01:18
nmideso i have screen 0 and screen 1 - but screen 1 seems to be completely unmanaged, no themes, no window management01:18
nmideit has the classic "X" shaped cursor that i remember seeing years ago when launching xfree86 manually without a window manager01:18
nmidei can export DISPLAY=":0.1" && <run program> to start applications on it but they are undecorated01:19
nmidei realize i won't be able to drag windows back and forth or do any of those convenient things that come from having multiple displays on one x screen but if anyone can point me in the right direction on how to have basically...the window manager actually running on screen 1 as well, would be much appreciated01:20
capum321NetworkManager[601]: <info>  [1467248557.5319] device (wlan0): interface index 4 renamed iface from 'wlan0' to 'wlx001122334455' why loading my driver with modeprobe rtl8187 does this rename to interface?02:06
sathello07:33
=== leszek_ is now known as leszek
DylanHello, can someone help me ?10:07
DylanI just installed Lubuntu 16.0410:07
leszekDylan: please just ask your question. Then you will see if someone is capable to help you10:07
leszekasking for asking is a bit redundant10:07
DylanBut i can't see my taskbar10:07
leszek:)10:07
DylanI hope you understand what i try to say :s10:08
leszekDylan: oh thats too bad. Is it maybe invisible ? Can you left click bottom left and see a menu popup ?10:08
DylanIt's not invisible10:08
Dylanif i click, nothing10:08
Dylanit's like i don't have after the installation10:09
leszekDylan: can you make it appear again by alt+f2 and then typing in lxpanel10:09
leszekI hope the run window stuff appears on alt+f210:09
Dylanyea on alt+f2 something appers10:10
Dylanbut when i write lxpanel10:10
Dylannothing10:10
Dylanjust the pop up close10:10
leszekhmm... very strange10:10
leszekcan you open lxterminal with alt+f210:10
DylanYea i'm in10:10
leszekthen type in lxpanel and see if it shows an error message10:11
DylanThere is already an instance of LXPanel. Now to exit10:11
Dylanterminal tell me that10:11
DylanEven on google i didn't find any soluce10:13
leszekDylan: that means it is running int he background somehow10:13
leszekcan you enter killall lxpanel10:13
leszekto kill every instance and then try restarting it10:14
Dylanafter the "killall lxpanel" and typing "lxpanel" i have :10:14
Dylan(lxpanel:4071): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled naction type _OB_WM_ACTION_UNDECORATE10:15
DylanI tried : killall lxpanel && lxpanel --profile Lubuntu10:18
DylanBut that said "lxpanel : no one processus find"10:18
DylanI have a question, if i have two television (or screen), on the second, can i see the taskbar?10:22
Dylancause, i have an laptop but, my screen on it, is dead, so i'm navigate with the other, that maybe the problem10:23
Dylansorry i bugged11:12
leszekDylan: yeah that could explain the problem. The panel appears then on the wrong monitor. Can't you turn off the non working one in the settings and only use the working one as primary. You can install a tool like arandr which should be useful in creating such a config11:13
DylanI don't know how do for unable the wrong monitor11:14
Dylandesactivate the wrong monitor*11:15
Dylani'm isntaling arandr for try11:16
DylanWELL man thank you <33311:17
Dylanyou saved me11:17
Dylanthat works!!11:17
leszekneed to go now. Hopefully it works for you otherwise just ask the other people here in the chan they are able to help you11:17
leszekbye11:17
Dylanbye man :)11:17
Dylansee you11:17
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capum321hello12:17
Salmoneushi all, i got an update notice yesterday. it looked like system updates. i installed, but i've noticed that on startup the system appears a bit unstable and even slower than normal, losing handily to my windows 10 partition upon startup. anyone else with similar issues?12:34
n-iCehi17:59
capum321hello21:30
capum321why my system doesn't have /etc/network/interfaces set up, and still I have connection on ethernet and wlan?21:37
geniiProbably because "managed=true" in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf21:39
capum321genii: yes, it's true, what does it do?21:50
capum321https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration "To create a network interface without an IP address" what's the obejctive here?21:59
capum321genii: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager If you want NetworkManager to handle interfaces that are enabled in /etc/network/interfaces:   Set managed=true    -    but the file has only 'auto lo' interface populated!22:01
capum321'modprobe rtl8187' load up log has this "wlx00aa11bb22cc: renamed from wlan0" why this happening?22:07
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