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| ahoneybun | is there a way to have different text sizes for terminal? | 01:50 |
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| ahoneybun | 7 looks great on the N4 but I have to change it to 11 for Desktop Mode | 01:51 |
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| Guest26657 | Hello. Does anyone know on how to install Ubuntu Touch on Galaxy S5 G900i | 02:41 |
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| Tom__ | hi | 07:56 |
| Tom__ | I | 07:56 |
| Tom__ | I have question about VPN? | 07:56 |
| Tom__ | Helloooooooo? | 07:57 |
| Tom__ | HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 08:03 |
| Tom__ | I have Question | 08:03 |
| Tom__ | ? | 08:04 |
| MCMic | What is the questiooooooooooooooon? | 08:04 |
| Tom__ | ABout VPN | 08:04 |
| Tom__ | whic VPN u recommend for phone | 08:05 |
| Tom__ | Secure and fast | 08:05 |
| MCMic | What does that mean? | 08:10 |
| MCMic | Which VPN server software? | 08:10 |
| Tom__ | yes | 08:13 |
| Tom__ | MCMic yes | 08:13 |
| Tom__ | which server u recommend | 08:13 |
| MCMic | Which service, like you want to rent a VPN? Or you want to install one? | 08:14 |
| Tom__ | which of u recommend? | 08:15 |
| Tom__ | Actually i'm new in about VPN | 08:16 |
| Tom__ | i do't have any background | 08:16 |
| MCMic | It depends a lot of what you want it for, and where in the word you’re gonna use it. | 08:16 |
| Tom__ | In Malaysia | 08:16 |
| Tom__ | secur and fasr | 08:17 |
| Tom__ | secur and fast | 08:17 |
| Tom__ | > | 08:20 |
| Tom__ | ? | 08:20 |
| Tom__ | MCMic | 08:20 |
| Tom__ | ? | 08:20 |
| MCMic | Tom__: I don’t know much about VPN providers, sorry. The one I use is from a small French association because I use it for french websites from Thailand where I live. | 08:21 |
| MCMic | I think it’s secure but not that fast ^^ | 08:21 |
| MCMic | Tom__: But I’m not sure this channel is the best place to ask this | 08:21 |
| Tom__ | MCMic : ok Thank you | 08:22 |
| mcphail | Tom__: please don't spam the channel by pressing the Enter key so often. If you want to use a VPN with Ubuntu Touch, you'd be best finding a provider which supports OpenVPN. This channel will not be able to offer you a recommended provider | 08:22 |
| Tom__ | ok | 08:25 |
| Tom__ | ? | 08:25 |
| Tom__ | There is a key /CLEAR | 08:26 |
| Tom__ | just do it | 08:26 |
| Tom__ | evrything will be okey | 08:26 |
| carten | hi | 08:31 |
| kernels5 | can anyone recommend a good alternative to ubuntu touch please? | 08:33 |
| black_puppydog | hey all. sorry but I don't recall getting an answer to that: is there a way to change my N5 to a more up-to-date channel than stable, and are the changes in there worth it? | 08:34 |
| black_puppydog | kernels5: why would you ask that here? also: ubuntu touch is supposed to be the alternative to the current defaults (iOS/android) | 08:35 |
| kernels5 | black_puppydog - theres no fixed alternative | 08:35 |
| kernels5 | by definition | 08:35 |
| kernels5 | there's always another alternative | 08:35 |
| kernels5 | I have some ethical issues with ubuntu | 08:36 |
| MCMic | kernels5: plasma mobile? Far from finished from what I know, really early development stages | 08:36 |
| kernels5 | yes head about that mcmic | 08:36 |
| kernels5 | sounds interesting | 08:36 |
| black_puppydog | that's a tough one then. I agree, plasma. or, if your device is supported, replicant? | 08:36 |
| kernels5 | but of course no where near ready | 08:36 |
| MCMic | kernels5: Or B2G which is firefoxos, but I don’t like FirefoxOs ideas. | 08:37 |
| kernels5 | do you all know about the amazon lenz scandal | 08:37 |
| MCMic | My biggest hope long term is definitely plasma | 08:37 |
| kernels5 | that ubuntu engaged in | 08:37 |
| kernels5 | very dishonest of ubuntu | 08:37 |
| kernels5 | mine too mcmic - but we may have a long wait | 08:37 |
| MCMic | kernels5: You could try SHR also maybe, or that kind of distros which run on OpenMoko | 08:37 |
| black_puppydog | man, this is supposed to be a UT channel. you know, actually moving the project forward. not the time/place, IMHO | 08:38 |
| kernels5 | good advice mcmic | 08:38 |
| kernels5 | black_puppydog - we must always be able to critize | 08:38 |
| kernels5 | ubuntu behaved VERY badley | 08:39 |
| kernels5 | very dishonestly | 08:39 |
| black_puppydog | you are. and I'm telling you that I think there are more appropriate times and places to do that in my opinion | 08:39 |
| kernels5 | and many people are not comfortable using this dishonest companys products | 08:39 |
| kernels5 | I cant think of a more appropiate time and place than here | 08:39 |
| black_puppydog | mariogrip: you there? any advice on the n5 question? | 08:40 |
| MCMic | kernels5: This amazon stuff is a bit old no? | 08:42 |
| kernels5 | exactly mcmic | 08:42 |
| kernels5 | truly disgusting how ubuntu behaved | 08:42 |
| kernels5 | and its not old | 08:43 |
| MCMic | It does not seem like this big of a deal to me, it’s not the first ubuntu mess up and won’t be the last. I’m more concerned about the tendency of uTouch to support gapps protocol rather than open protocols for instance | 08:43 |
| kernels5 | only a few years | 08:43 |
| kernels5 | strange defence - "they did wrong but they will do wrong again" | 08:43 |
| MCMic | A few years means what needed to be said about it must have been said | 08:43 |
| MCMic | What I mean is I don’t get why you talk about this particular issue which is years old. | 08:44 |
| kernels5 | because it was a show of disgusting greed and corruption | 08:44 |
| MCMic | It’s much more constructive to criticize stuff happenning this day if you intend to be constructive | 08:44 |
| kernels5 | the owners of ubuntu showed that they would put personal profit FAR beyond the respect to their customers | 08:45 |
| seb128 | yeah, because at least apple and google doesn't send any data only to any of their servers | 08:45 |
| kernels5 | again an odd defence | 08:45 |
| MCMic | kernels5: But the owner of ubuntu are not on this chan | 08:45 |
| seb128 | like siri totally does the recognition locally | 08:46 |
| MCMic | kernels5: What is the purpose on insisting on this? | 08:46 |
| kernels5 | "ubunt did evil - but other companies do evil too - so its ok!" | 08:46 |
| seb128 | he's trolling | 08:46 |
| seb128 | just /ignore him | 08:46 |
| kernels5 | seb im not trolling - i guess even saying thyat will only reinforce your prejudice | 08:46 |
| MCMic | No one said it was ok. Anyway, moving on. | 08:46 |
| kernels5 | "It does not seem like this big of a deal to me" thats pretty much saying its ok | 08:47 |
| seb128 | kernels5, ubuntu touch never did anything of what you mention | 08:49 |
| seb128 | you should better document yourself before doing public statements | 08:49 |
| kernels5 | Thought you iggied me seb128 | 08:49 |
| kernels5 | and it did | 08:49 |
| seb128 | kernels5, no, I said other might better ignore trolls and that /ignore is there for that | 08:49 |
| seb128 | I don't mind much you trolling | 08:49 |
| kernels5 | so you give advice you dont take.... | 08:49 |
| kernels5 | you should take your own advice before doing public statements | 08:50 |
| kernels5 | ubuntu ARE guilty | 08:50 |
| kernels5 | no one of integrity can deny this | 08:50 |
| seb128 | guilty of what? | 08:50 |
| seb128 | giving you software for free? | 08:51 |
| seb128 | it's like the internet is guilty because website show you ads | 08:51 |
| kernels5 | distributing spyware | 08:51 |
| black_puppydog | lol, this is pathetic... anyway, anyone wanna talk about actual development? like, I have an N5 atm, and I'm kind of on a budget. what's my best shot at getting a daily driver UT phone running? | 08:51 |
| kernels5 | discussing spyware is not pathetic black | 08:51 |
| seb128 | there is no spyware and never was | 08:52 |
| black_puppydog | "on a budget" ==> cannot simply buy any phone. might be okay to buy a lower tier/second hand phone | 08:52 |
| seb128 | please move to somewhere else for your trolls | 08:52 |
| seb128 | black_puppydog, try to get a second hand n4? | 08:52 |
| popey | kernels5: please stop. if you can't have a respectful conversation with the developers and users here, then find another platform for your angst | 08:52 |
| kernels5 | wow | 08:52 |
| kernels5 | i have not disrespected anyone | 08:53 |
| kernels5 | but people here have insutled me | 08:53 |
| kernels5 | calling me a troll | 08:53 |
| kernels5 | calling my discussions pathetic | 08:53 |
| popey | You do smell like one. | 08:53 |
| kernels5 | and there you go | 08:53 |
| popey | You came into an Ubuntu channel, and effectively insulted the work of the paid and volunteer developers here. How exactly did you think that was going to come across, really? | 08:55 |
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| kernels5 | I did no such thing | 08:55 |
| kernels5 | I just pointed out that the This is an obnoxious and privacy-concerning feature, and Canonical has been raked over the coals for it by the EFF. | 08:56 |
| popey | which a) has been discussed to _death_ _everywhere_ | 08:56 |
| popey | b) we disagree | 08:56 |
| popey | c) it was disabled in 16.04 | 08:56 |
| popey | d) you can turn it off | 08:56 |
| popey | etc etc | 08:56 |
| popey | So it's a laboured, old, tired conversation we've had a hundred times | 08:56 |
| seb128 | e) never existed in ubuntu touch | 08:56 |
| popey | forgive us if you smell like a troll | 08:56 |
| popey | also that | 08:56 |
| kernels5 | canonical popey - why was it opt out | 08:56 |
| davmor2 | e) the phone handles scope differently anyway | 08:57 |
| popey | kernels5: not having this conversation *again* | 08:57 |
| kernels5 | why did they wait until 10.04 before doing the decent thing? | 08:57 |
| popey | take a time travel pill back to 2012 and ask again | 08:57 |
| kernels5 | wow - it happened 4 whole years ago!!! | 08:57 |
| popey | yes, keep up | 08:57 |
| seb128 | kernels5, stop the insults and calling us undecent and dishonest | 08:57 |
| kernels5 | i have insulted no one | 08:57 |
| seb128 | you do | 08:57 |
| kernels5 | but you have all insulted me | 08:57 |
| popey | ok, lets move on. | 08:57 |
| seb128 | calling people dishonest | 08:57 |
| kernels5 | not you | 08:57 |
| kernels5 | earlier developers | 08:58 |
| kernels5 | who were complicit | 08:58 |
| seb128 | well I'm working on that codebase | 08:58 |
| popey | we are developers who work at canonical | 08:58 |
| seb128 | so me | 08:58 |
| popey | so yes, you are insulting *us* | 08:58 |
| kernels5 | popey - so you were aware about the amazon lenz feature? | 08:58 |
| kernels5 | before it was released? | 08:58 |
| seb128 | yes | 08:58 |
| popey | of course | 08:58 |
| kernels5 | you too seb | 08:58 |
| kernels5 | wow | 08:58 |
| seb128 | yes | 08:58 |
| popey | Now, enough. | 08:58 |
| kernels5 | did you have ANY moral misgivings? | 08:58 |
| seb128 | it was a nice integration with online services | 08:58 |
| seb128 | that you like it or not is your issue | 08:58 |
| popey | Ok, enough now | 08:58 |
| seb128 | popey, thanks | 08:59 |
| popey | np | 08:59 |
| popey | nobody needs that on a thursday morning | 08:59 |
| seb128 | :-) | 08:59 |
| carten | wow that was wierd | 09:00 |
| carten | "it was a nice integration with online services " | 09:00 |
| carten | i will be publishing this conversation | 09:00 |
| carten | there is still much interest in this story | 09:01 |
| popey | carten: please leave | 09:01 |
| carten | and interest in developers with absolutely ZERO moral compass | 09:01 |
| anpok | so wrong on so many levels.. | 09:02 |
| anpok | greyback_: so you werent online till now? | 09:02 |
| lpotter | compass support is still yet to be landed... :) | 09:08 |
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| lpotter | so ya, compass values should be 0 <snicker> | 09:09 |
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| k1l_ | that was a known troll ip range. | 09:11 |
| popey | thanks k1l_ | 09:11 |
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| black_puppydog | wow, had to be afk for a while there, that reads like fun times... thanks popey :) | 09:37 |
| black_puppydog | anyway, seb128, how about performance on the n4? I already feel like missing out with the N5 being what... 3 years old? | 09:38 |
| seb128 | I don't know if there is any recent device you chan get cheap/second hand | 09:38 |
| seb128 | I think the n4 behaves decently enough | 09:38 |
| MCMic | lol | 09:38 |
| black_puppydog | and btw: anyone working on a weechat relay client? would be hugely helpful, for when, you know, I have to be afk, like now :D | 09:40 |
| MCMic | black_puppydog: What is weechat? | 09:41 |
| black_puppydog | an irc client. you can run it on e.g. a vps, then connect to it via a relay protocol. seems popular. then again, I'm a complete irc noob... | 09:42 |
| A1108-Guest | I here serve a legal declaration that Alan Pope, of Farnborough, Hampshire, has knowingly participated in the breaking of the European Directive 95/46/EC. | 09:42 |
| black_puppydog | here we go again. going afk, will miss all the good fun again... | 09:43 |
| davmor2 | popey: man just as well we left the EU then ;) | 09:48 |
| k1l_ | haha | 09:48 |
| popey | haha | 09:49 |
| MCMic | :-/ | 09:49 |
| davmor2 | who thought there would be a fun side to it :D | 09:49 |
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| cwayne | mariogrip: hey, just out of curiousity, where is nexus 5x lie in terms of priorities for ubports | 11:50 |
| black_puppydog | and also just out of curiosity, is there a place (github/launchpad/...) where I can trach recent commits for the various devices just for news junkie reasons? :P | 11:56 |
| matv1 | black_puppydog maybe here http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ | 12:19 |
| black_puppydog | matv1, that's only for officially supported devices though. anything like it for ubports? | 12:24 |
| matv1 | black_puppydog oh I didnt catch that you meant that :) in that case not sure, sorry | 12:26 |
| black_puppydog | no worries, like I said, it's just to satisfy my hunger for news :P | 12:36 |
| black_puppydog | oops, me stupid... https://github.com/ubports | 13:00 |
| ahoneybun | popey: if that new Meziu is right I hope we get OTA-12 with fingerprint soon | 13:05 |
| ahoneybun | 2 phones with fingerprint readers and no software to handle them | 13:05 |
| dobey | hmm | 13:20 |
| dobey | ok then | 13:20 |
| popey | ahoneybun: like we have multiple devices with FM Radios and no software to handle them. this isn't new :) | 13:21 |
| ahoneybun | mm true | 13:22 |
| ahoneybun | popey: what do I file a bug about OSK? | 13:22 |
| dobey | wow, nutters | 13:23 |
| davmor2 | ahoneybun: what's the bug | 13:23 |
| ahoneybun | davmor2: the OSK comes up when with a keyboard connected in DesktopMode | 13:23 |
| ahoneybun | Nexus 4 | 13:23 |
| ahoneybun | not sure about my N7 since it keeps messing with | 13:23 |
| ahoneybun | something with my port is bad | 13:23 |
| dobey | black_puppydog: did you get your answer about switching to a more updated chanel than stable on n5? | 13:24 |
| black_puppydog | dobey: no :| | 13:25 |
| ahoneybun | davmor2: looking though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-keyboard/+bugs?orderby=-importance&memo=75&start=75 | 13:25 |
| ahoneybun | for a existing one | 13:25 |
| dobey | black_puppydog: connect to it with phablet-shell with the device connected to wifi, and run "sudo system-image-cli -vvvv --switch ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed" | 13:26 |
| black_puppydog | dobey: cool! will that wipe it? | 13:27 |
| ahoneybun | not without the -wipe option | 13:29 |
| black_puppydog | makes sense :D | 13:29 |
| ahoneybun | just deal with the system image not user stuff | 13:29 |
| ahoneybun | mm is the battery percentage just on the M10? | 13:34 |
| popey | ahoneybun: eh? | 13:37 |
| popey | oh ,in the indicator? No, it's an option in the fabulous tweak tool | 13:38 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 13:43 |
| ahoneybun | darn | 13:43 |
| popey | install it, it's great | 13:43 |
| ahoneybun | but it brakes things | 13:44 |
| dobey | or just use gsettings to set the setting | 13:44 |
| ahoneybun | so I need the OpenStore | 13:45 |
| dobey | to get battery percentage shown on the panel? | 13:45 |
| dobey | no | 13:45 |
| dobey | ahoneybun: you just need terminal app | 13:46 |
| dobey | ahoneybun: "gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.power show-percentage true" | 13:46 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 13:46 |
| ahoneybun | I'm going to install the tweak tool as well | 13:46 |
| dobey | you can just download the click for the tweak tool and side-load it, without actually installing the open store too (though you have to side-load that one as well anyway) | 13:47 |
| ahoneybun | I need the OpenStore as well? | 13:47 |
| dobey | no | 13:47 |
| dobey | if you want to install open store, you have to side load it | 13:48 |
| popey | 14:44 < ahoneybun> but it brakes things | 13:48 |
| ahoneybun | I put the click on the phone | 13:48 |
| popey | what does it break? | 13:48 |
| ahoneybun | I know | 13:48 |
| ogra_ | popey, things .. obviously | 13:48 |
| ahoneybun | did it with the gsettings | 13:52 |
| ahoneybun | thanks dobey | 13:52 |
| popey | woohoo! | 13:56 |
| dobey | sure | 13:56 |
| ahoneybun | also installed the tweak tool on the phone | 13:56 |
| black_puppydog | yay, dobey, that worked! didn't spot any visible differences yet. but version has bumped up from 9 to r166. last update 05/01/1970 :D | 13:56 |
| mikes7 | POPEY’s WH0RE MOTHER SPREADS HER HAIRY LEGS, AND IMAGINES JESUS AND THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD ARE THRUSTING THEIR SNAKE LIKE C0CKS IN AND OUT OF HER SMELLY, LICE RIDDEN, HERPES INFECTED PU$$Y POPEY IS IS A BA$TARD POPEY IS A PED0PHILE SATAN KILL POPEY’s FAMILY - KILL POPEY | 13:56 |
| mikes7 | . POPEY’s WH0RE MOTHER SPREADS HER HAIRY LEGS, AND IMAGINES JESUS AND THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD ARE THRUSTING THEIR SNAKE LIKE C0CKS IN AND OUT OF HER SMELLY, LICE RIDDEN, HERPES INFECTED PU$$Y POPEY IS IS A BA$TARD POPEY IS A PED0PHILE SATAN KILL POPEY’s FAMILY - KILL POPEY | 13:56 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 13:57 |
| dobey | black_puppydog: well rc-proposed has basically daily updates | 13:57 |
| black_puppydog | just what I was looking for! :) | 13:57 |
| dobey | wow popey, what did you do to this mindless pleb to deserve this? | 13:58 |
| popey | meh | 13:58 |
| black_puppydog | leave the EU? | 13:58 |
| black_puppydog | *badumm tss* :D | 13:58 |
| black_puppydog | no srsly, is it just a bad day or do the trolls always fly this low here? | 13:59 |
| dobey | well, feces is heavier than air, so they're usually at the bottom | 13:59 |
| dobey | usually they just ask how to install android, in here though | 14:00 |
| * mariogrip hugs popey | 14:03 | |
| * ahoneybun highfives mariogrip | 14:03 | |
| * mariogrip highfivers ahoneybun back :) | 14:04 | |
| * ahoneybun highfives popey too | 14:05 | |
| mariogrip | black_puppydog: what n5 question? | 14:05 |
| black_puppydog | mariogrip: dobey already came to my help, running r166 atm :) | 14:06 |
| mariogrip | cwayne: I have no list, but I take devices that i see people want, and nexus 5x is pretty soon | 14:07 |
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| mariogrip | black_puppydog: :) | 14:07 |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: do you know how to i start unity8 (ubuntu touch) in developer more, so i get more logs? | 14:25 |
| mariogrip | mode* | 14:25 |
| mzanetti | what logs would you like to have? | 14:25 |
| mzanetti | I think it's pretty much as chatty as its gonna get by default | 14:25 |
| mzanetti | mariogrip, ^ | 14:27 |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: humm, it doesn't start any apps, it the apps crashes | 14:28 |
| mzanetti | those things should already be printed | 14:28 |
| mariogrip | in .cache/upstart right? | 14:28 |
| mzanetti | yes | 14:28 |
| mariogrip | humm, let me send you some logs, i cannot find anything in them | 14:29 |
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| mariogrip | mzanetti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18171811/ | 14:32 |
| mariogrip | also maliit-server is crashing | 14:33 |
| mzanetti | mariogrip, I don't see any traces of an app being started. how do you launch it? | 14:34 |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: with the launcher on the side | 14:36 |
| mariogrip | this is how it looks like https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/4FwBSSdU/screenshot20160630_163721717.png | 14:38 |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: as you see in the picture, the "app drawer/scope" is not starting | 14:41 |
| dobey | mariogrip: looks like unity8-dash isn't running | 14:59 |
| mariogrip | dobey: there is no logs for unity8-dash so i have no idea why it doesn't start | 15:03 |
| dobey | mariogrip: try running "start unity8-dash" and see :) | 15:03 |
| mariogrip | dobey: start: Unknown job: unity8-dash | 15:05 |
| dobey | well that's not good | 15:05 |
| dobey | i guess that explains why it didn't start :) | 15:05 |
| dobey | mariogrip: do you have /usr/share/upstart/sessions/unity8-dash.conf ? | 15:06 |
| mzanetti | mariogrip, try to do something like "ubuntu-app-launch calendar-app" | 15:08 |
| mzanetti | where calendar-app is supposed to be a appid | 15:09 |
| dobey | com.canonical.calendar_calendar | 15:09 |
| dobey | or not | 15:10 |
| dobey | lol | 15:11 |
| mariogrip | dobey: yes i have /usr/share/upstart/sessions/unity8-dash.conf | 15:17 |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18174652/ | 15:18 |
| dobey | mariogrip: oh why are you trying to run that stuff as root? | 15:20 |
| dobey | mariogrip: unity8-dash is run as phablet | 15:20 |
| mariogrip | dobey: i have adb running on root | 15:20 |
| dobey | mariogrip: su over to phablet then, and then try to run "start unity8-dash" | 15:21 |
| mariogrip | dobey: still same result | 15:21 |
| dobey | huh | 15:22 |
| popey | uhoh | 15:24 |
| dobey | oh well, need to get lunch | 15:25 |
| mzanetti | mariogrip, seems something is wrong with either your dbus session, upstart session or ubuntu-app-launch | 15:26 |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: any idea how i can debug that? | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | dont use su (ever) ... | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | sudo -u phablet -i | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | that keeps the environment intact | 15:26 |
| mariogrip | ogra_: chmod 777 -R / :) | 15:26 |
| mzanetti | also use phablet-shell, and not adb shell directly | 15:26 |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: phablet-shell for some reason does not work with unlocked-adb | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | mariogrip, well, i mean su resets your env and drops half your PATH ... not really helpful :) | 15:27 |
| mariogrip | ogra_: ack, i'll start using phablet user :) | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | (especially all env vars you need to use initctl get unset if you use "su phablet" instead of "sudo -u phablet -i") | 15:29 |
| mariogrip | ogra_: oh, didn't know that | 15:29 |
| mariogrip | now start unity8-dash works :D | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | :) | 15:30 |
| * mariogrip hugs ogra_ | 15:30 | |
| * ogra_ hugs mariogrip | 15:30 | |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: failed to start unity8-dash, where is the logs for that? | 15:31 |
| mzanetti | the logs for what? | 15:31 |
| mzanetti | for the dash? | 15:31 |
| mariogrip | yeah | 15:32 |
| mzanetti | .cache/upstart/unity8-dash.log | 15:32 |
| mariogrip | does not exist | 15:32 |
| mzanetti | but the dash is running? | 15:32 |
| mzanetti | if it says failed to start unity8-dash, it's probably not :) | 15:32 |
| mariogrip | no, it's not running | 15:33 |
| mzanetti | right, it would only log things when its running | 15:33 |
| mariogrip | oh, ok. how can i get some logs so i know why it does not start? | 15:33 |
| mzanetti | but it's an app as any other app, so unity8.log should indicate why it fails to start | 15:33 |
| mzanetti | if there's nothing in there at all, it doesn't reach unity8, which means ubuntu-app-launch did not process it properly | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | should it ? given it gets started by its own upstart job ? | 15:34 |
| mzanetti | hmm... right... it bypasses ubuntu-app-launch | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:34 |
| mzanetti | but apart from that it is a normal app :D | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | and should create its own logfile | 15:34 |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: there is nothing in unity8.log about unity8-dash | 15:34 |
| mzanetti | try this: | 15:34 |
| mariogrip | it stays the same after trying to start it | 15:34 |
| mzanetti | unity8-dash --desktop_file_hint=unity8-dash | 15:35 |
| mzanetti | that must print something to unity8.log | 15:35 |
| mariogrip | http://paste.ubuntu.com/18175760/ | 15:36 |
| mariogrip | unity8.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/18175810/ | 15:36 |
| mariogrip | it's just an white, no apps appears | 15:37 |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: ^ | 15:40 |
| mzanetti | wait, so the window opens, but it stays white? | 15:41 |
| mzanetti | mariogrip, ^ | 15:41 |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: yes | 15:42 |
| mzanetti | in that case it should log something to unity8-dash.log | 15:42 |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: nope | 15:42 |
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| mariogrip | does not even exist | 15:43 |
| mzanetti | is it *white* or just showing the white wallpaper? | 15:44 |
| mariogrip | just white | 15:44 |
| mzanetti | meh... the unity8.log seems to say all is fine | 15:45 |
| mariogrip | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RAKBnK3I/screenshot20160630_174414817.png | 15:45 |
| mzanetti | hmm, there is the bottom edge arrow there | 15:45 |
| mzanetti | so the dash is running | 15:45 |
| mzanetti | does it print something when you launch it manually? | 15:45 |
| mariogrip | yeah this http://paste.ubuntu.com/18175760/ | 15:46 |
| mariogrip | "Unable to register DBus object "/com/canonical/UnityDash"" | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | looking at /usr/share/upstart/sessions/unity8-dash.conf you probably want to "export APP_ID=unity8-dash" before trying to run it | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | (not sure thats relevant for running it) | 15:46 |
| mariogrip | ogra_: tried, no difference | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | yeah ... was just a guess | 15:47 |
| mzanetti | ok... so the dash seems running. now sure why it prints those messages but seems like it's just not loading any scopes | 15:48 |
| mzanetti | scope-registry not running perhaps | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | mariogrip, try: export $(cat /run/user/32011/dbus-session) | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | it is likely your current session doesnt have the dbus socket in the env | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | (terminal session that is) | 15:50 |
| mariogrip | ogra_: still the same on screen, but different error this time http://paste.ubuntu.com/18176699/ | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | yeah, that looks good from a dbus perspective now | 15:51 |
| mariogrip | so then we can conclude that dbus is not the problem? | 15:51 |
| mzanetti | the other question is why it doesn't start automatically with upstart... | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | mariogrip, yes | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | mzanetti, or even more interesting, why doesnt it log anything | 15:52 |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: i have no idea, it works on all other devices, but not this one | 15:52 |
| mariogrip | same android tree, and pretty much the same hardware as the fairphone | 15:52 |
| mzanetti | ogra_, well, if he launches manually, he'd get stderr on his terminal, which he does. so no surprise it doesn't log to .cache/upstart | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | mzanetti, right, but the same output shuld show up in the log | 15:53 |
| mzanetti | it should, when launched by upstart | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | exactly | 15:53 |
| mzanetti | mariogrip, so kill the manually launched instance and do "start unity8-dash" | 15:54 |
| mzanetti | any changes? | 15:54 |
| mariogrip | mzanetti: start: Job failed to start | 15:54 |
| mzanetti | your session is not set up properly, for sure | 15:55 |
| mariogrip | should i try reinstalling it with an newer vivid-reinstalled? | 15:56 |
| mzanetti | are you porting things to a new device or is this one of our supported devices? | 15:56 |
| mariogrip | oneplus one | 15:57 |
| mzanetti | so I suppose there's something not happening in the profile or whatever | 15:57 |
| mzanetti | that's ogra_ land though :D | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | lol | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | i havent touched phone code in 2 years now | 15:58 |
| mariogrip | :P | 15:58 |
| mariogrip | thanks for you help mzanetti :) | 15:58 |
| mzanetti | ogra_, I don't think anything changed since you moved on | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | all i can do is guessing from memory | 15:58 |
| mzanetti | :P | 15:58 |
| mzanetti | mariogrip, try comparing the env on this device and one of the officially supported ones | 15:58 |
| mariogrip | ack | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | one thig i can imagine is that the unity8.conf doesnt completely finish ... it sets a ton of vars in its post-start scripts | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | var that the dash might then be missing | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | *vars that | 16:00 |
| mzanetti | it kinda seems upstart is upset already... given he can start the app manually, but not via "start unity8-dash" | 16:00 |
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| ogra_ | well, check that UPSTART_SESSION is set in your env ... as wel as XDG_RUNTIME_DIR | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | (see /etc/profile.d/upstart-phablet.sh and for the dbus part from before /etc/profile.d/dbus-source.sh) | 16:02 |
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| mariogrip | ogra_: phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ cat $UPSTART_SESSION | 16:52 |
| mariogrip | cat: unix:abstract=/com/ubuntu/upstart-session/32011/2329: No such file or directory | 16:52 |
| mariogrip | ogra_: they both exist, ignore that i pasted there, i uses cat instead of echo | 16:54 |
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