| clivejo | an hour later and still not published | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+packages?field.name_filter=pimcommon&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= | 00:06 |
| clivejo | really drives me insane | 00:07 |
| soee_ | we do not release Alpha 1 right ? | 00:37 |
| soee_ | lol i thought it is dead: Kaffeine 2.0.4 Released, Includes Major Improvements for Digital TV | 03:32 |
| soee_ | clivejo: will you be able to package it ? | 03:33 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 03:45 |
| ahoneybun | soee_: why? | 03:46 |
| soee_ | ahoneybun: why what ? | 03:47 |
| ahoneybun | package it | 03:47 |
| soee_ | to be abel to install it ? | 03:47 |
| ahoneybun | but we have VLC and DragonPlayer | 03:48 |
| soee_ | yes and this is argument whay we shoudln't use others ? :) | 03:48 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 03:52 |
| ahoneybun | soee_: we'll see | 03:55 |
| ahoneybun | trying it for the hell of it | 03:56 |
| soee_ | ;D | 03:56 |
| ahoneybun | most likely will burn and crash | 03:56 |
| ahoneybun | *crash and burn | 03:56 |
| * ahoneybun thinks soee_ should go to the Dojo | 03:56 | |
| ahoneybun | holly | 03:57 |
| ahoneybun | crap | 03:57 |
| ahoneybun | no way | 03:58 |
| soee_ | :P | 03:58 |
| ahoneybun | soee_: guess who is going to test this first | 03:58 |
| ahoneybun | :{ | 03:58 |
| ahoneybun | *:P | 03:58 |
| soee_ | and crash laptop ? :D | 03:59 |
| ahoneybun | it plays audio and video fine | 03:59 |
| ahoneybun | only have mp3 and mp4 | 03:59 |
| ahoneybun | it built with no errors | 03:59 |
| soee_ | nice | 04:00 |
| ahoneybun | let me get it on LP | 04:00 |
| ahoneybun | let's see if LP works with me too | 04:00 |
| soee_ | +1 | 04:01 |
| ahoneybun | mm where is the files to updload to LP | 04:01 |
| ahoneybun | *upload | 04:01 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 04:01 |
| ahoneybun | I'm going to have to get the changelog, deps and such fixed | 04:04 |
| ahoneybun | LP is going to yell other wise | 04:04 |
| soee_ | this is black magic for me atm. :) | 04:04 |
| ahoneybun | "atm" | 04:04 |
| ahoneybun | and hope my key works | 04:05 |
| soee_ | building for xenial or yakkety ? | 04:05 |
| ahoneybun | well I'm on xenial | 04:05 |
| ahoneybun | this package has not gotten update since Apr 2014 | 04:05 |
| ahoneybun | in Ubuntu archive anyway | 04:06 |
| soee_ | yeah, that is why i thought it was dead | 04:06 |
| ahoneybun | they have not updated the changelog from github anyway | 04:11 |
| ahoneybun | mm debuild is yelling at me | 04:14 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 04:19 |
| ahoneybun | http://blog.packagecloud.io/debian/debuild/packaging/2015/06/08/buildling-deb-packages-with-debuild/ | 04:19 |
| ahoneybun | placeholder for Rick | 04:19 |
| ahoneybun | something about not finding kde.pm | 04:24 |
| soee | and what is it ? | 04:26 |
| soee | !info dke.pm | 04:26 |
| ubottu | Package dke.pm does not exist in yakkety | 04:26 |
| soee | !info kde.pm | 04:27 |
| ubottu | Package kde.pm does not exist in yakkety | 04:27 |
| ahoneybun | not sure | 04:27 |
| soee | https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/pkg-kde-tools/filelist | 04:27 |
| ahoneybun | I know dh_autoreconf is for autoreconf.pm | 04:27 |
| ahoneybun | and quilt | 04:27 |
| soee | /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Buildsystem/kde.pm | 04:27 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 04:27 |
| ahoneybun | ohhh | 04:28 |
| ahoneybun | mm still | 04:29 |
| ahoneybun | I think there was a version it has in it | 04:29 |
| ahoneybun | same odd | 04:31 |
| ahoneybun | http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/pkg-kde-tools/filelist | 04:31 |
| ahoneybun | it is saying aabout Perl | 04:33 |
| ahoneybun | but it looks like pkg-kde-tools pulls that | 04:33 |
| soee | what error ? | 04:33 |
| ahoneybun | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/18211109/ | 04:33 |
| ahoneybun | mm it is doing this: /usr/local/share/perl/ | 04:36 |
| ahoneybun | but pkg-kde-tools has: /usr/local/share/perl5/ | 04:37 |
| ahoneybun | not sure if that is it | 04:37 |
| soee | !info pkg-kde-tools xenial | 04:38 |
| ubottu | pkg-kde-tools (source: pkg-kde-tools): various packaging tools and scripts for KDE Applications. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15.20~ubuntu4 (xenial), package size 89 kB, installed size 427 kB | 04:38 |
| soee | !info pkg-kde-tools | 04:39 |
| ubottu | pkg-kde-tools (source: pkg-kde-tools): various packaging tools and scripts for KDE Applications. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15.21~ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 90 kB, installed size 434 kB | 04:39 |
| ahoneybun | pkg-kde-tools (>= 0.14) | 04:39 |
| ahoneybun | is how I wrote it | 04:39 |
| ahoneybun | but pkg-kde-tools did the same | 04:39 |
| ahoneybun | !info libxine2 | 04:40 |
| ubottu | libxine2 (source: xine-lib-1.2): xine media player library – meta-package. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-1.1build1 (yakkety), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB | 04:40 |
| ahoneybun | !info libxine2 xenial | 04:40 |
| ubottu | libxine2 (source: xine-lib-1.2): xine media player library – meta-package. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-1build5 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB | 04:40 |
| ahoneybun | no clue | 04:41 |
| soee | we have to wait for some more experenced packager :-) | 04:42 |
| ahoneybun | so close too | 04:42 |
| ahoneybun | seems apachelogger had the same error | 04:45 |
| ahoneybun | 5 years ago XD | 04:45 |
| ahoneybun | XD | 04:50 |
| soee | :D | 04:50 |
| ahoneybun | I was missing pkg-kde-tools | 04:51 |
| soee | oO | 04:51 |
| ahoneybun | now a new error | 04:51 |
| ahoneybun | not sure how | 04:51 |
| soee | what error ? | 04:51 |
| ahoneybun | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/18211500/ | 04:52 |
| ahoneybun | seems to be about quilt | 04:52 |
| ahoneybun | I did install that | 04:52 |
| soee | but it cant findsource with proper format | 04:53 |
| ahoneybun | yea seems that way | 04:53 |
| soee | one level above you shoudl have ../kaffeine_2.0.4ubuntu1.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz} | 04:53 |
| ahoneybun | not sure how to get those | 04:53 |
| ahoneybun | I remember debuild made them | 04:53 |
| ahoneybun | I might be missing a few things, a bit rusty | 04:53 |
| soee | isnt ths the source provided by devs ? | 04:54 |
| ahoneybun | not in a tar | 04:54 |
| ahoneybun | I got this from github | 04:54 |
| soee | ahoneybun: https://linuxtv.org/downloads/kaffeine/ | 04:56 |
| soee | grab one ? | 04:56 |
| ahoneybun | got it now | 04:56 |
| ahoneybun | also found a decent changelog | 04:56 |
| ahoneybun | yay patches | 04:59 |
| soee | :P | 04:59 |
| ahoneybun | not even sure if that one is needed anymore | 05:00 |
| ahoneybun | I removed it | 05:03 |
| ahoneybun | also change quilt to native and got around that error | 05:06 |
| ahoneybun | now I need my secret key | 05:07 |
| ahoneybun | soee: still with me lol | 05:10 |
| soee | woot woot ? | 05:10 |
| ahoneybun | not yet | 05:10 |
| ahoneybun | just got my key from the laptiop | 05:10 |
| ahoneybun | and it's on Lp | 05:14 |
| ahoneybun | *LP | 05:14 |
| ahoneybun | let's see some fireworks! | 05:14 |
| soee | :) | 05:14 |
| ahoneybun | 317 updates on the laptop lol | 05:15 |
| ahoneybun | soee: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-packages/+build/10197151 | 05:15 |
| ahoneybun | not sure if you can watch it or now | 05:15 |
| ahoneybun | *not | 05:15 |
| soee | yup | 05:15 |
| ahoneybun | watch it crash and burn XD | 05:16 |
| ahoneybun | yep | 05:18 |
| soee | :D | 05:18 |
| ahoneybun | burned | 05:18 |
| ahoneybun | mm seems to be somethings that are not anywhere | 05:19 |
| ahoneybun | old oxygen icons | 05:19 |
| soee | rolf | 05:19 |
| ahoneybun | rolf? | 05:19 |
| soee | rofl | 05:19 |
| ahoneybun | not sure what that means | 05:19 |
| soee | rofl = Rolling On Floor Laughing | 05:20 |
| ahoneybun | mm might know the fix | 05:20 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 05:22 |
| ahoneybun | well I know what file is telling it to do that | 05:22 |
| ahoneybun | let's try this again soee | 05:25 |
| soee | +1 | 05:25 |
| ahoneybun | damn | 05:26 |
| ahoneybun | I have to wait 30mins | 05:26 |
| ahoneybun | to start the build | 05:26 |
| ahoneybun | nvm | 05:27 |
| soee | why ? LP blocks you | 05:27 |
| soee | ? | 05:27 |
| ahoneybun | XD | 05:27 |
| ahoneybun | now it says 4 | 05:27 |
| ahoneybun | weird | 05:27 |
| ahoneybun | 1 | 05:27 |
| ahoneybun | mgraesslin: ? | 05:27 |
| ahoneybun | is that the KWin guy or Wayland | 05:28 |
| ahoneybun | mm now 2mins | 05:28 |
| ahoneybun | so weird | 05:28 |
| mgraesslin | ahoneybun: I just connected, if you want to ask me something, I might miss context | 05:28 |
| ahoneybun | no no my bad | 05:28 |
| ahoneybun | I meant o/ | 05:28 |
| ahoneybun | XD | 05:28 |
| ahoneybun | soee: building | 05:29 |
| ahoneybun | mgraesslin: I saw you at Akademy last year | 05:29 |
| ahoneybun | saw/met | 05:29 |
| mgraesslin | yes | 05:30 |
| ahoneybun | I was with the weird guy interviewing you lol | 05:30 |
| mgraesslin | yes I remember you ;-) | 05:30 |
| ahoneybun | oh awesome! | 05:30 |
| ahoneybun | ;) | 05:31 |
| * ahoneybun wonders if soee pased out | 05:31 | |
| soee | me ? :D | 05:31 |
| soee | we are starting work day now here in Poland :) | 05:31 |
| ahoneybun | oh it's 1:30am here XD | 05:31 |
| ahoneybun | mgraesslin: I want to say you work on KWin | 05:32 |
| ahoneybun | I could be wrong | 05:32 |
| mgraesslin | no, that's correct - I'm working on KWin right now | 05:32 |
| ahoneybun | I knew it was something cool KWin =/ any WM | 05:32 |
| ahoneybun | in the good way | 05:33 |
| ahoneybun | soee: if this fails I might go to sleep | 05:34 |
| ahoneybun | 75% sure | 05:34 |
| ahoneybun | damn | 05:34 |
| soee | hihi :) | 05:34 |
| ahoneybun | I removed those | 05:35 |
| ahoneybun | soee: night | 05:40 |
| ahoneybun | someone else will have to help me | 05:40 |
| vip | hi ho | 07:43 |
| === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka | ||
| jimarvan | good morning kubuntu! :) | 08:23 |
| acheronuk | ahoneybun: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/kaffeine.git/log/ | 08:26 |
| jimarvan | OMG | 08:31 |
| jimarvan | acheronuk: I LOVE YOU | 08:31 |
| jimarvan | it works with my 10 year old mpeg1 TV tuner in my laptop! | 08:32 |
| jimarvan | :D :D :D | 08:32 |
| acheronuk | lol. great :) | 08:42 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: no libkf5grantleetheme in XX apps staging is roadblocking much of what hasn't built yet, yes? | 08:44 |
| yofel | true, kaffeine is the only working TV Tuner application that I know of. Nice to see that it's still alive :) | 08:45 |
| * clivejo wonders who the weird guy with Aaron was | 09:29 | |
| clivejo | did he have a chicken head? | 09:29 |
| jimarvan | clivejo: where did you see that? | 09:41 |
| clivejo | where did I see chicken head? | 09:42 |
| clivejo | have seen photos of it | 09:42 |
| jimarvan | xD | 09:48 |
| jimarvan | I miss that cricket :( | 09:48 |
| jimarvan | ahoneybun: I want that cricket back on the show! :P | 09:49 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 11:51 |
| jimarvan | BluesKaj: hey :) | 11:52 |
| BluesKaj | hi jimarvan | 11:52 |
| BluesKaj | just received an email about yakkety alpha1 bring released, hope the crashy ubiquity installer has been fixed | 11:57 |
| yofel | should work now with the slideshow gone | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | what was the slideshow exactly? | 11:59 |
| yofel | the slides it shows you while it is installing (after you finished all configuration steps) | 12:00 |
| jimarvan | I had issues to install yakkete on virtualbox | 12:01 |
| jimarvan | but I will try later on at home, probably it is my old laptop | 12:02 |
| BluesKaj | so unnessary semi ads about kubuntu assets | 12:02 |
| jimarvan | well I like them xD | 12:02 |
| BluesKaj | the're fine if they don't crash the installer | 12:03 |
| BluesKaj | they're | 12:03 |
| jimarvan | ;) | 12:05 |
| jimarvan | Has anyone ran the live yakkete on Virtualbox? | 12:06 |
| jimarvan | and got a black screen at the end? | 12:06 |
| jimarvan | *run | 12:06 |
| yofel | wouldn't really suprise me. We've had various session startup issues since 16.04, and nobody looked at those in depth so far | 12:08 |
| jimarvan | <-- | 12:11 |
| jimarvan | I am that guy :D | 12:11 |
| acheronuk | jimarvan: Live session was fine in virtualbox here yesterday | 12:11 |
| jimarvan | ok so it is my poor old laptop | 12:11 |
| acheronuk | apart from plasma being 5.5.5 :( that is | 12:12 |
| yofel | might also be a bit random (or version / driver ? dependent) as I had it work and fail in VBox | 12:12 |
| jimarvan | hmm I am boosting RAM from 2 GB to 3 GB (out of 4) | 12:13 |
| jimarvan | right now just to check | 12:13 |
| acheronuk | just zysncing the iso, then I will try | 12:13 |
| jimarvan | I hate that Vbox suggests 718Mb RAM and 8 GB disk space :( | 12:13 |
| jimarvan | They should increase those recommendations a little... | 12:14 |
| yofel | right... | 12:14 |
| jimarvan | made it! | 12:14 |
| jimarvan | yeap it was low ram issue | 12:14 |
| jimarvan | WORKS | 12:14 |
| * jimarvan loves that desktop folder little hidden install icon xD | 12:15 | |
| acheronuk | OK, here. 2GB of RAM allocated | 12:15 |
| acheronuk | lol. ignore the VB suggested defaults | 12:15 |
| jimarvan | ;) | 12:16 |
| yofel | I think we "officially" require 1024? | 12:16 |
| jimarvan | yeap 1024 runs | 12:16 |
| jimarvan | i had the absolute defaults... :( sorry | 12:16 |
| yofel | well, still better than kvm which defaults to 256 IIRC? ^^ | 12:17 |
| acheronuk | the VBox default for *buntu are 768, which is silly | 12:17 |
| jimarvan | indeed | 12:17 |
| jimarvan | and a lot of new starting people that want to try | 12:17 |
| yofel | well, ubuntu requires 512 according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements | 12:17 |
| acheronuk | but sounds plausible enough that you can be fooled | 12:17 |
| jimarvan | they come back and say "it does not work" | 12:17 |
| yofel | I wonder if we should be on that page.. | 12:18 |
| mamarley | I tried to install Kubuntu Xenial on a KVM VM a while back with 1024 but it kept crashing due to OOM. It worked fine after I bumped it to 2048. | 12:18 |
| jimarvan | not until that 512 figure doubles yofel xD | 12:18 |
| yofel | well, they talk about Lubuntu further down | 12:19 |
| acheronuk | yofel: yes we/you should, kubuntu is not a minor derivative | 12:19 |
| yofel | OTOH, telling people that we eat memory is probably not that great of an idea | 12:19 |
| yofel | OTOH #2: I blame mysql | 12:19 |
| acheronuk | letting them find out later on is worse IMHO | 12:19 |
| jimarvan | mysqld memory issue you mean? | 12:21 |
| jimarvan | wasn't that fixed? | 12:21 |
| yofel | no | 12:21 |
| jimarvan | ah ok | 12:21 |
| jimarvan | https://s32.postimg.org/gdswelfp1/Screenshot_20160701_131958.png | 12:22 |
| jimarvan | :D | 12:22 |
| jimarvan | on a 2006 laptop, I just cant believe it | 12:23 |
| yofel | thanks for reminding me that I need to do that folderview SRU | 12:23 |
| jimarvan | ;) | 12:24 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> /me tried to package kaffenine | 12:33 |
| BluesKaj | kaffenine still around ? | 12:37 |
| BluesKaj | or kafrine eveb | 12:38 |
| BluesKaj | oops , need more light , kaffeine | 12:38 |
| jimarvan | Kaffeine rocks hehe | 12:49 |
| BluesKaj | mpv is my fav movie player now, after finding a config file for the audio settings enabling DD and DTS outputs thru the spdif | 12:52 |
| BluesKaj | it's video handling is smoother and cleaner than VLC as well | 12:52 |
| jimarvan | hmm i will give it a try | 13:03 |
| acheronuk | smplayer using the mpv backend works very well here | 13:11 |
| acheronuk | ahoneybun: https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/10198747 | 13:16 |
| BluesKaj | the mplayer front ends kmplayer and smplayer never quite cut it with the digital audio out options IME, this pc is our HTPC connected to an audio receiver and TV | 13:17 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: can you see why this is FTBFS - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/270141460/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kdesdk-kioslaves_4%3A16.04.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz | 13:19 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: it's been broken compiling against libsvn 1.9 for ages. | 13:20 |
| clivejo | do you know what the status is? | 13:21 |
| acheronuk | package is not even in xenial (was left out?) and I guess that was why? | 13:21 |
| acheronuk | debian git have fixed by disabling the svn part/sub-package | 13:21 |
| clivejo | would you do me a fix? | 13:22 |
| clivejo | if you have time | 13:22 |
| acheronuk | Don't know what the official status is, but I would guess no one cares enough to fix the svn part | 13:23 |
| clivejo | better to follow debian lead | 13:23 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: not before this evening, if that's ok? | 13:23 |
| clivejo | I think once thats sorted apps are almost ready to go | 13:23 |
| clivejo | yeah no hurry | 13:23 |
| acheronuk | has PIM finally built? | 13:23 |
| acheronuk | in XX | 13:24 |
| clivejo | yeah and 16.04.3 fixes my korganiser crash! | 13:24 |
| * clivejo is very happy | 13:24 | |
| acheronuk | great. had the ppa enabled, but was wanting to remove the PIM stuff | 13:24 |
| acheronuk | if PIM built, that should be sorted | 13:24 |
| clivejo | oh xenial hasnt totally built yet | 13:25 |
| clivejo | libgrantlee took forever to publish | 13:25 |
| clivejo | and Im poking it on, but publisher is soooooo slow | 13:25 |
| acheronuk | LP slow as ever... sigh | 13:25 |
| jimarvan | :( | 13:26 |
| acheronuk | I use akregator a lot, so need it NOT to remove that on a dist-upgrade | 13:26 |
| clivejo | me too | 13:26 |
| clivejo | but when I opened kontact it was crashing due to korganiser | 13:27 |
| clivejo | but the entire suite seems stable on Yakkety | 13:27 |
| acheronuk | hopefully the same on xenial then :) | 13:28 |
| clivejo | if mailcommon ever publishs! | 13:29 |
| * clivejo spits grape seeds at LP | 13:29 | |
| acheronuk | hmm... from yesterday http://i.imgur.com/GgAfebW.png | 13:31 |
| === pavlushka is now known as zaki | ||
| marco-parillo | Did anybody test that the daily images install without the slideshow? | 13:54 |
| === zaki is now known as Guest92541 | ||
| acheronuk | did on a manual remove the other day, and let it go as far as the file copy stage on a test earlier | 13:55 |
| acheronuk | does it still fail? | 13:55 |
| marco-parillo | I was willing to test if nobody else has. | 13:56 |
| acheronuk | try it. I can only do so in virtualbox ATM | 13:56 |
| jimarvan | guys, test installing on mine VBox right now | 13:58 |
| jimarvan | (the one with 1GB RAM) | 13:59 |
| marco-parillo | Thanks. I will pass as (1) I can only do in a VM myself, and (2) it looks as if jimarvan is ahead of me. | 14:04 |
| jimarvan | no worries will tell you in a few mins | 14:04 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I feel like a failure now | 14:04 |
| jimarvan | why? :( | 14:04 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> .. | 14:04 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I tried 2times to get that built | 14:05 |
| ahoneybun | acheronuk: second time https://launchpadlibrarian.net/270077284/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kaffeine_2.0.4ubuntu1-ppa2_BUILDING.txt.gz | 14:11 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Only 2 times? | 14:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> That's not failure | 14:12 |
| ahoneybun | yea it was 1:30am at that point | 14:12 |
| ahoneybun | so I went to sleep | 14:14 |
| yofel | 2 times is definitely not a failure :D | 14:14 |
| ahoneybun | not enought? | 14:14 |
| ahoneybun | *enough | 14:15 |
| * yofel remembers genuine kde-workspace ~ppa14 numbers or so | 14:15 | |
| yofel | that was a fun thing | 14:15 |
| ahoneybun | well for something like kaffeine | 14:15 |
| yofel | FWIW, missing files can take a couple repetitions. I would rather recommend building in a chroot where you have the build result so you can run dpkg-buildpackage -nc after fixing something | 14:16 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 14:16 |
| ahoneybun | I removed the lines in kaffeine that were doing that I thought | 14:17 |
| ahoneybun | kaffeine.install | 14:17 |
| yofel | is it the same error as before? | 14:17 |
| ahoneybun | yep | 14:17 |
| ahoneybun | surprised I got the key signing to work lol | 14:19 |
| yofel | well, they're still there | 14:20 |
| ahoneybun | yea I know | 14:20 |
| yofel | is that a native package o.O? | 14:20 |
| ahoneybun | mm? | 14:20 |
| yofel | FWIW, you might want to base 2.0.4 on the debian 2.0.3 version | 14:21 |
| ahoneybun | oh I grabbed the version we had | 14:23 |
| ahoneybun | which was a bad idea now | 14:23 |
| jimarvan | Sorry for the delay I did the mistake to install 3rd party packages | 14:47 |
| jimarvan | almost done with the Yaketee installation | 14:47 |
| jimarvan | 91% so far all seem ok | 14:47 |
| jimarvan | damn | 14:48 |
| jimarvan | should it reboot at 93%???? | 14:48 |
| jimarvan | without warning? | 14:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Pretty sure no | 14:48 |
| jimarvan | well it didn't actually reboot, it closed the installation and asked me to press enter after i remove media | 14:49 |
| jimarvan | INSTALLED :) | 14:49 |
| jimarvan | and up and running | 14:49 |
| jimarvan | congratulations | 14:49 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Oh nice | 14:49 |
| * jimarvan cheers | 14:49 | |
| jimarvan | marco-parillo: clivejo: installation succesfully completed! :) | 14:50 |
| jimarvan | well done | 14:50 |
| marco-parillo | Well done. Always nice to have a stop-ship bug resolved. | 14:50 |
| jimarvan | I will have a look on the installer | 14:50 |
| jimarvan | and see what I can do | 14:50 |
| jimarvan | :> | 14:50 |
| jimarvan | Have in mind, the installer could not launch on VBox with 1GB ram, I had to up it to 2 GB to actually launch | 14:51 |
| marco-parillo | On my netbook with 1GB, I used to get low on memory warnings when the Kubuntu installer went to Plasma 5, so I guess that was coming. | 14:56 |
| acheronuk | ahoneybun yofel: I cheated and pinched the debian packaging that had only been updated 2 hrs previously | 15:12 |
| yofel | XD | 15:13 |
| acheronuk | even then, it's slight luck it built 1st time! | 15:13 |
| acheronuk | even though I did test in pbuilder 1st | 15:13 |
| apol | hey, where should one report packaging issues in kubuntu? | 15:23 |
| jimarvan | hmm | 15:24 |
| apol | I've just been pointed out that khangman lacks a qml-module-qtgraphicaleffects dependency | 15:24 |
| clivejo | apol: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khangman | 15:25 |
| clivejo | open a bug on LP for it | 15:25 |
| clivejo | what release is the bug in? | 15:25 |
| clivejo | Hi Rick_Timmis | 15:27 |
| clivejo | did you get in trouble last night? | 15:28 |
| apol | clivejo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khangman/+bug/1598213 | 15:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1598213 in khangman (Ubuntu) "khangman has a runtime dependency on qml-module-qtgraphicaleffects" [Undecided,New] | 15:34 |
| apol | clivejo: 16.04, AFAIK | 15:34 |
| clivejo | just installed KHangman on Yakkety, seems to be working | 15:36 |
| clivejo | what happens when you run it? | 15:36 |
| acheronuk | PIM building on XX at last! | 15:48 |
| jimarvan | :D | 15:56 |
| jimarvan | is that the personal instant messenger, right? | 15:56 |
| clivejo | no | 15:56 |
| clivejo | Personal Information Manager | 15:56 |
| clivejo | basically the suite making up Kontact | 15:57 |
| jimarvan | see ya peeps! :D | 16:02 |
| clivejo | yofel: what do you think? http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/forks/drumstick.git/ | 16:14 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: If I merge in debian's packaging for kdesdk-kioslaves, which is 4:16.04.0-1, would that then need ubuntu one changing from 4:16.04.2-0ubuntu1 to 4:16.04.2-1ubuntu1 ? | 16:21 |
| soee | brr | 16:46 |
| soee | ahoneybun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev8Zltau4zw | 16:46 |
| soee | yofel: ping | 16:49 |
| soee | !info smartmontools xenial | 17:06 |
| ubottu | smartmontools (source: smartmontools): control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 6.4+svn4214-1 (xenial), package size 425 kB, installed size 1462 kB | 17:06 |
| acheronuk | yofel clivejo: taking debian changes as read, and that the debian revision would bump, this is what it would give me for kubuntu_yakkety_archive | 17:12 |
| acheronuk | http://paste.ubuntu.com/18250016/ | 17:12 |
| yofel | clivejo: context? | 17:16 |
| yofel | soee: hm? | 17:16 |
| soee | yofel: if Aaron fix the kaffeine packaging, can we push it into archive ? | 17:16 |
| ahoneybun | I fixed nothing | 17:17 |
| yofel | soee: yakkety already has 2.0.3, or do you really need 2.0.4? | 17:17 |
| ahoneybun | Rik did that | 17:17 |
| soee | the latest | 17:17 |
| soee | ahoneybun: oh? | 17:17 |
| yofel | acheronuk: looks fine | 17:17 |
| soee | wha about xenial ? | 17:17 |
| ahoneybun | yep | 17:18 |
| acheronuk | yofel: I'll do a merge proposal then | 17:18 |
| soee | in his ppa soewhere ? | 17:18 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 17:19 |
| ahoneybun | https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/10198747 | 17:19 |
| acheronuk | ahoneybun soee: I just pinched the latest debian packaging | 17:19 |
| ahoneybun | yea I went from the newest in Ubuntu archive | 17:19 |
| ahoneybun | bad move | 17:19 |
| soee | :) | 17:19 |
| acheronuk | only had to update the changelog | 17:19 |
| soee | installed fine - Ricks package | 17:20 |
| * yofel gives up and installs plasma 5.6 | 17:21 | |
| soee | ;o | 17:21 |
| acheronuk | kaffiene built against a newer version of VLC in my ppa than the one in my archive. forgot I had that. but don't think it's critical | 17:22 |
| acheronuk | have not tested app more than trivially though | 17:22 |
| acheronuk | hmm... kaffeine is not very smooth compared to mpv | 17:26 |
| mamarley | I haven't used Kaffeine since the KDE3 days! | 17:29 |
| acheronuk | same here I think | 17:29 |
| soee | i liked it a lot and i still do :) | 17:32 |
| mamarley | I used it until KDE4 came out, then I switched to Xine for a while, then to (s)mplayer, then to Xine, and these days I find myself using Kodi quite a bit. | 17:35 |
| mamarley | Oh, and VLC. | 17:35 |
| acheronuk | still like smplayer, which is now QT5 | 17:35 |
| jimarvan | guys does anyone know what happened with amarok? | 17:35 |
| soee | i always like the name: kaffeine :D | 17:35 |
| jimarvan | is it abandoned? | 17:35 |
| mamarley | I use smplayer for playing DVDs when I don't want Kodi, since VLC plays DVDs with lots of judder for some reason. | 17:35 |
| ahoneybun | I don;t think so | 17:36 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: amarok status.? | 17:36 |
| acheronuk | not a lot of work going on https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=amarok.git | 17:38 |
| jimarvan | thanks acheronuk as i thought :( | 17:38 |
| mamarley | I really liked Amarok with KDE3 but the KDE4 version never really made me happy. :/ | 17:39 |
| acheronuk | that's another one I used to use all the time with KDE 3, but 4 somewhat ruined it | 17:39 |
| acheronuk | mamarley: snap! | 17:39 |
| acheronuk | far from perfect, but clementine does most of what I want now | 17:40 |
| * mamarley uses VLC for that. | 17:41 | |
| * jimarvan same VLC addict here :) | 17:43 | |
| * mamarley just wishes VLC would start playing DVDs smoothly again, then he could ditch (s)mplayer entirely. | 17:44 | |
| soee | :D | 17:44 |
| soee | btw. like a year agoor more there were ome posts about Dragon Player 3 i think | 17:45 |
| mamarley | It is really odd though, because it only happens with DVDs. Blurays (which are significantly more resource-intensive) play just fine. | 17:45 |
| soee | the idea died ? | 17:45 |
| BluesKaj | mamarley: mpv works well now , VLC is still a good player , but mpv seems better on difficult videos | 17:46 |
| mamarley | BluesKaj: I have tried MPV, but it has one critical issue for my setup: It doesn't support streaming video over SMB. | 17:46 |
| acheronuk | mamarley: if I use a file manager like thunar with gvfsd-smb support to open the video with smplayer over smb, it then works and streams for me | 17:49 |
| mamarley | I don't want to stop using Dolphin though. | 17:50 |
| acheronuk | fair enough | 17:50 |
| mamarley | I have a setup that works pretty well though. Kodi for DVDs and anything recorded using TVHeadend, VLC when I don' | 17:51 |
| soee | clivejo: only kdesdk-kioslaves fails in Xenial now ? (except minuet) | 17:51 |
| mamarley | t want to mouse through Kodi's interface, and smplayer with mplayer if I want to play a DVD without Kodi. | 17:51 |
| BluesKaj | kodi useful for internet tv, otherwise it's kind of clunky IMO | 17:52 |
| mamarley | BluesKaj: With a mouse, sure, but if you have an IR remote and a computer attached to a TV, it works really well. It is also the only video player I have found that can display closed captioning/subtitles from ATSC transport streams. | 17:53 |
| BluesKaj | I just keep media in their respective Music etc folders on the outboard and put in them "places" on dolphin, and yes I use a wireless KB and mouse and this pc is a HTPC connected to an audio receiver and tv ...I just need a remote to change the sources on the tv | 17:55 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: something not right with xenial apps http://paste.ubuntu.com/18254270/ | 18:03 |
| acheronuk | and http://paste.ubuntu.com/18254372/ | 18:04 |
| clivejo | any idea what the problem is | 18:07 |
| clivejo | what version of libkf5akonadicore5 does it want to install? | 18:12 |
| acheronuk | if I do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/18254967/ it then works for the upgrade, but lose the packages listed there | 18:12 |
| acheronuk | 4:16.04.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 for libakonadicore | 18:13 |
| clivejo | can you try installing that on its own | 18:14 |
| acheronuk | hmmm. done the upgrade now | 18:15 |
| acheronuk | so of any consequence, forcing things a bit I lost.... | 18:19 |
| acheronuk | oh.. wait | 18:20 |
| * clivejo waits | 18:20 | |
| acheronuk | lol. kgpg is the only thing as far as I can see. | 18:26 |
| acheronuk | some of the 4.xxx stuff no longer installs, but you expect that I suppose | 18:27 |
| acheronuk | presumably needs some replaces/breaks so make upgrade work, rather than having to fudge/force it like I just did? | 18:27 |
| acheronuk | kgpg is still kde4, so not usre if that can work | 18:29 |
| acheronuk | *sure | 18:29 |
| soee | yofel: what do you think about my suggestion to disable drivers manager kcm till it is fixed ? | 18:32 |
| acheronuk | I suppose jumping from apps 15.12.3 to 16.04.2 is bound to have fallout | 18:32 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: only spotted this now | 18:33 |
| clivejo | kdesdk-kioslaves (4:16.04.2-1ubuntu1) | 18:33 |
| clivejo | the -1 is the debian version | 18:33 |
| clivejo | Debian have 16.04.0 | 18:34 |
| clivejo | but they dont have 16.04.2 | 18:34 |
| clivejo | yet | 18:35 |
| clivejo | therefore our should be 4:16.04.2-0ubuntu1 | 18:35 |
| acheronuk | ah. I just misread their version number | 18:35 |
| clivejo | no problem, took me ages to understand version numbers | 18:36 |
| acheronuk | otherwise I would have left ti | 18:36 |
| clivejo | had yofel's head turned | 18:36 |
| acheronuk | didn't misunderstand, just misread | 18:36 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: kgpg is not installable on YY either | 18:39 |
| clivejo | anyone else able to do a test install of apps 16.04.2 on senial | 18:40 |
| clivejo | whats the message? | 18:40 |
| soee | clivejo: yes i can test | 18:40 |
| clivejo | soee: remember its staging, it could kill your kitten | 18:41 |
| acheronuk | http://i.imgur.com/cTZX8nC.png | 18:41 |
| clivejo | eak | 18:41 |
| acheronuk | same as xenial with the apps staging ppa | 18:41 |
| * acheronuk admits he uses seahorse | 18:42 | |
| clivejo | acheronuk: what version is it trying to install? | 18:44 |
| soee-dev | :) | 18:44 |
| acheronuk | Candidate: 4:16.04.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 | 18:45 |
| acheronuk | from apt-cache policy | 18:45 |
| acheronuk | so presumably that? | 18:46 |
| acheronuk | CMakeLists for 16.04.2 shows it's still kde4, despite that version number | 18:49 |
| soee-dev | clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18258369/ | 18:55 |
| soee-dev | so a lot of pim related stuff tobe removed | 18:56 |
| acheronuk | in a xenial VM I get a cleaner upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/18258458/ | 18:57 |
| clivejo | soee: looks ok | 18:57 |
| acheronuk | so was just me having some kde4 stuff installed that c***ped it out! | 18:57 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: do you think we should merge with debian in regards kgpg? | 18:58 |
| acheronuk | I have not looked at the differences | 18:58 |
| soee-dev | clivejo: ok, upgrading | 19:02 |
| clivejo | you want to try it? | 19:04 |
| acheronuk | I'm just building in pbuilder with the debian packaging. See if that is installable | 19:05 |
| clivejo | ah good idea | 19:05 |
| acheronuk | still get cannot install libakonadi-contact4 etc | 19:07 |
| clivejo | wonder why its looking for that! | 19:08 |
| soee-dev | cant we grep 16.04 fiels and see wht requires it ? | 19:09 |
| acheronuk | maybe you can import keys for your contacts in akonadi? | 19:09 |
| clivejo | !info kdelibs5-dev | 19:09 |
| ubottu | kdelibs5-dev (source: kde4libs): development files for the KDE Development Platform libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.14.16-0ubuntu4 (yakkety), package size 1303 kB, installed size 9465 kB | 19:09 |
| clivejo | ah, thats an old PIM dev | 19:09 |
| clivejo | try removing that | 19:09 |
| acheronuk | yep | 19:09 |
| clivejo | !info kdepimlibs5-dev | 19:09 |
| ubottu | kdepimlibs5-dev (source: kde4pimlibs): development files for the KDE Development Platform PIM libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.14.10-1ubuntu3 (yakkety), package size 481 kB, installed size 4349 kB | 19:09 |
| clivejo | another old one | 19:10 |
| clivejo | wonder what the new one is | 19:10 |
| clivejo | remove them both and see what cmake is looking for | 19:10 |
| acheronuk | http://paste.ubuntu.com/18259813/ | 19:13 |
| soee-dev_ | clivejo: ping | 19:13 |
| acheronuk | so http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?mode=filename&suite=xenial§ion=all&arch=any&keywords=KdepimLibsConfig&searchon=contents | 19:14 |
| clivejo | soee-dev_: whats up? | 19:14 |
| soee-dev_ | clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18259866/ | 19:14 |
| soee-dev_ | clivejo: so from what i see all looks prerry good | 19:15 |
| soee-dev_ | reboot now | 19:15 |
| clivejo | soee-dev_: looks ok | 19:15 |
| acheronuk | so it only really has probs with the kde4 leftovers | 19:15 |
| clivejo | can you test the applications# | 19:15 |
| jimarvan | which ones? | 19:16 |
| clivejo | all of them | 19:16 |
| jimarvan | roger | 19:16 |
| acheronuk | so kgpg needs kdepimlibs5-dev :( | 19:16 |
| acheronuk | ohh! akregator got back feed icon support :) | 19:19 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: in the rules files can you bump include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/debian-qt-kde.mk to version 3 | 19:22 |
| clivejo | try a rebuild | 19:22 |
| acheronuk | trying with that and the depends back | 19:24 |
| clivejo | keep the depends out | 19:24 |
| clivejo | they look too old | 19:24 |
| acheronuk | cmake will fail if not | 19:25 |
| clivejo | yeah | 19:25 |
| clivejo | I want it to | 19:25 |
| soee-dev | clivejo: ok, apps looks prerry goofd | 19:25 |
| clivejo | version 3 is KF5, Im wondering if we are building version 4 by mistake | 19:26 |
| acheronuk | there is no kf5 in that cmakelist | 19:28 |
| acheronuk | so it just fails as before | 19:28 |
| clivejo | so the debian packaging is failing too? | 19:28 |
| acheronuk | yes | 19:29 |
| clivejo | I dunno then :/ | 19:29 |
| acheronuk | or, it builds, but is not installable | 19:29 |
| acheronuk | not on xenial with the apps ppa, anyway | 19:30 |
| clivejo | installable on yakkety? | 19:31 |
| acheronuk | not with apps staging enabled | 19:31 |
| clivejo | Ive just pinged maxy about it | 19:31 |
| acheronuk | if you adjust some depends/breaks etc on other packages, it might get there | 19:32 |
| acheronuk | but not sure what tonight | 19:32 |
| jimarvan | wow busy night :o | 19:37 |
| clivejo | soee: still with us? | 19:38 |
| soee | aye | 19:38 |
| clivejo | how goes the testing? | 19:38 |
| soee | clivejo: i installed it fine, tested (run few apps) and all smees fine | 19:38 |
| soee | but we need more testers when it comes to apps | 19:39 |
| jimarvan | just returned from sainburys | 19:39 |
| acheronuk | right. just off to enable staging on my laptop | 19:39 |
| jimarvan | downloading latest iso and starting testing | 19:39 |
| soee | i think Plama and Frameworks are always easier than apps to package and test | 19:39 |
| soee | jimarvan: xenial apps ? | 19:39 |
| jimarvan | soee: which apps you need testing? \ | 19:40 |
| soee | jimarvan: 16.04.2 on Xenial | 19:40 |
| jimarvan | understood | 19:40 |
| soee | from staging apps ppa | 19:40 |
| jimarvan | ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma? | 19:41 |
| jimarvan | confirm? | 19:41 |
| soee | no | 19:41 |
| jimarvan | sorry :( | 19:41 |
| jimarvan | which one? | 19:42 |
| soee | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications | 19:42 |
| jimarvan | got it | 19:42 |
| soee | ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-kdeapplications | 19:42 |
| jimarvan | i will install the VBox right away and start | 19:42 |
| soee | mamarley: are you aple to test them ? | 19:42 |
| soee | *able | 19:42 |
| jimarvan | ofc | 19:42 |
| jimarvan | i have an SSD drive shouldn't take long to set it up | 19:43 |
| soee | ;) | 19:43 |
| jimarvan | :> | 19:43 |
| mamarley | soee: 16.04.2 on Xenial? Not at the moment, but later today I can install them on a VM> | 19:43 |
| * acheronuk wants SSD | 19:43 | |
| soee | mamarley: woudl be cool, thanks | 19:43 |
| jimarvan | acheronuk: what size? | 19:43 |
| * jimarvan 120 Gb? | 19:43 | |
| acheronuk | 2-300 for pref | 19:44 |
| jimarvan | ah ok | 19:44 |
| jimarvan | because the small ones now are VERY cheap | 19:44 |
| soee | i have 120 GB on both laptop and PC :) | 19:44 |
| soee | true | 19:44 |
| jimarvan | 39-50 pounds for under 100Gb | 19:44 |
| jimarvan | pro-brexit xD | 19:44 |
| jimarvan | anyway enough chit chat | 19:44 |
| jimarvan | going virtual mode :P | 19:44 |
| yofel | talking about SSDs, someone buy me a 2TB one :P | 19:45 |
| acheronuk | was looking at https://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-Ultra-Sata-2-5-inch-Internal/dp/B00M8ABCZM | 19:45 |
| jimarvan | what are you going to do with 2TB? fill it with pron? :P | 19:45 |
| acheronuk | but not sure if any good | 19:45 |
| yofel | only partly ;P | 19:45 |
| jimarvan | acheronuk: in my company they are insane with chromebooks | 19:45 |
| jimarvan | I convinced the boss to stop wasting his money on crap and let me upgrade all old laptops with small SSDs and install kubuntu 16.04 | 19:46 |
| jimarvan | preparing 12 laptops for next week ;) | 19:46 |
| yofel | XD | 19:46 |
| jimarvan | people LOVE KUBUNTU | 19:46 |
| soee | yes! | 19:46 |
| jimarvan | i will send you an e-mail from a home manager to see how much they love it | 19:46 |
| jimarvan | but yet again | 19:46 |
| * soee wonders if yofel saw the question before .. | 19:46 | |
| jimarvan | let me do this *virtual mode engaged* | 19:47 |
| yofel | saw it | 19:47 |
| yofel | can't make up my mind | 19:47 |
| acheronuk | hands up who uses kgpg? | 19:47 |
| jimarvan | for kmail? | 19:47 |
| yofel | that thing is kind of important, esp. on e.g. virtualbox (ok, we have gcc on the image now, so the guest additions should work..) | 19:47 |
| soee | i'm not sure how hard it is to disbale it but we have smething broken there that migh confuse users | 19:47 |
| yofel | but yeah, it's somewhat broken :/ | 19:47 |
| jimarvan | :/ | 19:48 |
| yofel | kmail uses kgpg? | 19:48 |
| acheronuk | hope not! | 19:48 |
| * yofel uses kgpg on occasion - like twice a year | 19:48 | |
| acheronuk | it's kde4 and is uninstallable with apps-staging as it stands | 19:49 |
| jimarvan | OMG STOP RAINING ALREADY :((( | 19:50 |
| jimarvan | i wanted to go to the beach tomorrow fml | 19:50 |
| jimarvan | question | 19:55 |
| jimarvan | should I avoid install updates? | 19:55 |
| soee | huh? | 19:55 |
| jimarvan | i mean on the install screen | 19:56 |
| soee | well installation will be faster but in the end you will have to install them after reboot :D | 19:56 |
| * jimarvan facepalms | 19:56 | |
| jimarvan | ok then | 19:57 |
| yofel | IIRC that only makes ubiquity download them in advance, so you can install them after install | 19:57 |
| soee | +1 | 19:57 |
| BluesKaj | i always wait til the OS is done installing, just incase | 19:57 |
| jimarvan | gotcha | 19:58 |
| jimarvan | 5 mins left to download the xenial iso | 19:58 |
| soee | BluesKaj: you have some machine with Xenial ? | 19:58 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, my laptop | 19:58 |
| soee | wanna test apps 16.04 ? | 19:58 |
| BluesKaj | already added that above ppa to my Yakkety install, all is well so far | 19:59 |
| soee | yes but testing for Xenial is pretty important | 20:00 |
| yofel | hm | 20:00 |
| yofel | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 20:00 |
| yofel | accountwizard akonadi-server akregator kaddressbook kdepim-runtime kmail knotes kontact korganizer libkf5incidenceeditorsng5 libkf5kipi30.0.0 libkf5noteshared5 | 20:00 |
| yofel | that's too much | 20:00 |
| jimarvan | YES | 20:00 |
| jimarvan | lol do it! | 20:00 |
| jimarvan | xD | 20:00 |
| yofel | just a chroot anyway | 20:00 |
| soee | yofel: on Xenial ? | 20:00 |
| acheronuk | yofel: that's what I had earlier | 20:00 |
| yofel | soee: yes | 20:00 |
| acheronuk | can be worked around, but not for kgpg | 20:01 |
| yofel | chroot was set up with: apt install --install-recommends kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-full digikam kdevelop calligra | 20:01 |
| acheronuk | hmmm... so maybe somthign else there | 20:02 |
| soee | uhmm something related to diigikam -> kipi ? | 20:02 |
| yofel | I'm more worried about PIM | 20:02 |
| yofel | let me read the debug output | 20:02 |
| acheronuk | what happens with a 'apt-get install akregator kmail akonadi-server' ? | 20:04 |
| acheronuk | doing that removed some old kde4 stuff for me, and allowed a cleanish upgrade | 20:05 |
| yofel | well, aptitude says akonadi-server : Breaks: libakonadi-kde4 but 4:4.14.10-1ubuntu2 is installed. | 20:06 |
| yofel | and that wants to completely remove calligra now | 20:06 |
| acheronuk | http://paste.ubuntu.com/18254967/ | 20:06 |
| yofel | apt just gets to a different conclusion | 20:07 |
| acheronuk | but I don't have calligra | 20:07 |
| yofel | yeah, that's about what aptitude gives me | 20:07 |
| BluesKaj | soee: installing packages with staging-kdeapplications now on xenial...ok done , rebooting | 20:08 |
| jimarvan | :D | 20:08 |
| jimarvan | 50% on installing myself | 20:09 |
| acheronuk | calligra-libs : Depends: libakonadi-kde4 (>= 4:4.5.86) but it is not going to be installed | 20:09 |
| yofel | apt just gets to a different conclusion | 20:09 |
| yofel | o.O | 20:09 |
| yofel | lag | 20:09 |
| acheronuk | too much breakage on kde4 based stuff :( | 20:11 |
| yofel | I guess uploading a calligra build without akonadi support would do the job | 20:12 |
| yofel | what does it use that for anyway.. | 20:12 |
| acheronuk | I'm going to go find a glass of wine and come back to this tomorrow :) | 20:13 |
| jimarvan | :) | 20:13 |
| BluesKaj | soee. looks good, anything troublesome to lookout for ? | 20:13 |
| soee | yofel: so the calligra is the faulty package ? | 20:13 |
| clivejo | isnt calligra broken in xenial? | 20:14 |
| soee | BluesKaj: test some apps if they work fine | 20:14 |
| clivejo | typo in fonts | 20:14 |
| yofel | clivejo: is it? | 20:14 |
| clivejo | yeah | 20:14 |
| acheronuk | doubly broken now with that ppa | 20:14 |
| jimarvan | acheronuk: Cheers xD get some wine! | 20:15 |
| * acheronuk does just that | 20:15 | |
| yofel | we might want to fix it anyway - for krita's sake | 20:16 |
| jimarvan | long live Krita! | 20:16 |
| jimarvan | 70% on install uff, tapping fingers here | 20:17 |
| BluesKaj | soee: I don't have a lot of apps, no libreoffice or PIM | 20:18 |
| soee | LO is not related here | 20:19 |
| clivejo | calligra-libs Recommends: fonst-lyx | 20:19 |
| clivejo | should be fonts-lyx | 20:20 |
| soee | lol :D | 20:20 |
| * clivejo hates waffley americans | 20:21 | |
| BluesKaj | ,well, gotta go, Canada Day jam today at the garage/studio ...later gents, take care | 20:22 |
| clivejo | 48mins to explain something that should only take 5 | 20:22 |
| * valorie protests -- waffles are a great breakfast! | 20:25 | |
| jimarvan | :D | 20:25 |
| clivejo | :P | 20:25 |
| jimarvan | at least wales are winning :P | 20:25 |
| valorie | also, I used to make fantastic overnight yeast waffles with freshly-ground wheat flour | 20:28 |
| valorie | damn those were good | 20:28 |
| jimarvan | xD | 20:28 |
| jimarvan | you are evil! :P | 20:28 |
| yofel | now I want waffles -.- | 20:29 |
| valorie | rofl | 20:30 |
| clivejo | let go ahead and click it | 20:30 |
| clivejo | blah blah blah | 20:34 |
| clivejo | yap yap yap | 20:34 |
| clivejo | zzzzzzz | 20:35 |
| jimarvan | clive | 20:38 |
| jimarvan | installing updates now | 20:38 |
| jimarvan | kde apps :) | 20:38 |
| clivejo | jim! | 20:38 |
| jimarvan | 20% | 20:38 |
| jimarvan | 50% | 20:38 |
| jimarvan | and done | 20:38 |
| jimarvan | rebooting | 20:38 |
| clivejo | you're man | 20:39 |
| clivejo | mean | 20:39 |
| jimarvan | you have an app priority to test first? | 20:39 |
| jimarvan | like dolphin etc? | 20:39 |
| clivejo | nope | 20:39 |
| clivejo | just test them all | 20:40 |
| jimarvan | alright | 20:40 |
| jimarvan | my favorite is instant messaging, so i am going to test it first! :P | 20:40 |
| jimarvan | wales - belgium 3-1 | 20:42 |
| yofel | wales is unstoppable, fun ^^ | 20:42 |
| jimarvan | unbelievable | 20:42 |
| jimarvan | :D | 20:42 |
| jimtest | konversation works :P | 20:44 |
| jimarvan | oh oh | 20:45 |
| jimarvan | something crashed | 20:45 |
| jimarvan | ktp-contactlist | 20:45 |
| jimarvan | when i opened the Instant Messenger Contacts | 20:46 |
| clivejo | did you reboot? | 20:46 |
| jimarvan | but I think that happens also on original | 20:46 |
| jimarvan | hmm | 20:46 |
| jimarvan | i think so? | 20:46 |
| jimarvan | let me reboot again xD | 20:46 |
| jimarvan | and korgac | 20:47 |
| jimarvan | i think i rebooted | 20:47 |
| jimarvan | but i will doing it again to be sure | 20:47 |
| clivejo | korgac was crashing on me in 16.04.2 | 20:47 |
| clivejo | but seems to be fixed in .3 | 20:48 |
| jimarvan | ok | 20:48 |
| jimarvan | rebooted | 20:49 |
| jimarvan | i will reopen Instant Messenger Contacts and see | 20:49 |
| soee | jimarvan: instant messaging = ktp ? | 20:49 |
| jimarvan | It connects with my google account perfectly | 20:49 |
| jimarvan | IM Contacts | 20:49 |
| jimarvan | Instant messaging working like a charm | 20:50 |
| soee | Wales wn | 20:50 |
| jimarvan | :D | 20:50 |
| yofel | \o/ | 20:50 |
| jimarvan | 3-1 | 20:50 |
| jimarvan | who could believe it | 20:50 |
| jimarvan | clivejo: seems it does not crash anymore | 20:50 |
| jimarvan | let me close it and see | 20:50 |
| jimarvan | no crash so far :> | 20:50 |
| soee | jimarvan: keep in mind that kde-telepathy id dead :D | 20:50 |
| jimarvan | i know i know | 20:50 |
| jimarvan | but we really need in my company instant messaging xD | 20:51 |
| jimarvan | so i love that little app | 20:51 |
| jimarvan | if I have to, I will reserve it :P | 20:51 |
| soee | ee Slack or Mattermost ? :D | 20:51 |
| jimarvan | what do you mean? x | 20:52 |
| jimarvan | Dolphin works fine | 20:52 |
| soee | for team commnication | 20:52 |
| soee | http://www.mattermost.org | 20:52 |
| jimarvan | aaah | 20:52 |
| jimarvan | never heard of it | 20:52 |
| jimarvan | we use google hangouts from chrome xD | 20:52 |
| jimarvan | *chromium with plugin | 20:52 |
| jimarvan | clivejo: everything seems working | 20:53 |
| jimarvan | congrats :) | 20:53 |
| jimarvan | even kontact and kmail | 20:53 |
| clivejo | Im glad | 20:53 |
| jimarvan | i see nothing obvious | 20:54 |
| jimarvan | i want to test the wi-fi somehow | 20:54 |
| jimarvan | I might actually install it physically on my laptop :> | 20:54 |
| soee | i am impressed hw god USB mode works for my mobile LTE internet | 20:54 |
| soee | *how good | 20:54 |
| soee | *USB modem | 20:55 |
| jimarvan | what I could do | 20:56 |
| jimarvan | is share the VM to you guys | 20:56 |
| jimarvan | to look around | 20:56 |
| jimarvan | through my broadband? | 20:56 |
| jimarvan | xD | 20:56 |
| jimarvan | let me see if i can make a VBox server | 20:56 |
| jimarvan | might become useful! | 20:56 |
| jimarvan | hmm | 21:02 |
| jimarvan | even open file in folder for firefox works! | 21:08 |
| jimarvan | wow... | 21:08 |
| jimarvan | was it fixed in 16.04 already? | 21:08 |
| jimarvan | clivejo: everything seems working fine | 21:14 |
| jimarvan | i will take a virtualbox snapshot of it :) | 21:14 |
| jimarvan | so if you want me to install anything else on this, and test it I can revert back and forth at any time | 21:14 |
| clivejo | :) | 21:15 |
| jimarvan | I have also installed teamviewer 11 | 21:15 |
| jimarvan | so if you guys would love to look around feel free :) | 21:15 |
| jimarvan | hmm teamviewer has a hard time to launch, probably I need to increase RAM | 21:16 |
| ahoneybun | soee: if we are testing should it not be in backports yet? | 21:27 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 21:30 |
| acheronuk | https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/akonadi/commit/debian/control?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=167d2accf958605d22b117bb41072bebe491ed28 | 21:30 |
| acheronuk | +Breaks: kdepimlibs-data (<< 4:16.04), libakonadi-kde4 | 21:31 |
| acheronuk | clivejo ^^^ libakonadi-kde4 breaks is part of prob with some stuff | 21:31 |
| yofel | https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/akonadi/commit/debian/control?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=58759307bc750afc68c57ccca35adf2ec401dee8 | 21:32 |
| jimarvan | guys have a look on this screnshot | 21:34 |
| jimarvan | https://s31.postimg.org/cc5dpif23/Screenshot_20160701_223322.png | 21:34 |
| jimarvan | have I done something wrong? | 21:34 |
| yofel | jimarvan: try dist-upgrade | 21:35 |
| jimarvan | ok | 21:35 |
| jimarvan | done | 21:36 |
| jimarvan | rebooting | 21:36 |
| jimarvan | omg... | 21:37 |
| acheronuk | omg? | 21:40 |
| jimtest | acheronuk: sorry xD | 21:41 |
| jimtest | well i did dist-upgrade but still some packages are kept back | 21:42 |
| jimtest | gwenview kde-config-mailtransport kdepimlibs-data kio-extras-data libkf5eventviews5 | 21:42 |
| jimtest | etc... | 21:42 |
| jimarvan | I will come again tomorrow, have to go sleep for my karate session tomorrow morning | 21:44 |
| acheronuk | gwenview blocking it? | 21:44 |
| jimarvan | probably | 21:44 |
| jimarvan | there are some more packages | 21:44 |
| jimarvan | should I list them here? | 21:44 |
| acheronuk | can do if you like, but I'm not puzzling over it tonight | 21:45 |
| jimarvan | then I will not bother your heads for tonight :D | 21:45 |
| jimarvan | we have time to bump it tomorrow ;) | 21:45 |
| jimarvan | but for just logging purposes here they are: | 21:46 |
| jimarvan | gwenview kde-config-mailtransport kdepimlibs-data kio-extras-data libkf5eventviews5 | 21:46 |
| jimarvan | libkf5followupreminder5 libkf5gravatar5 libkf5kdepimdbusinterfaces5 libkf5kdgantt2-5 | 21:46 |
| jimarvan | libkf5libkleo5 libkf5mailimporter5 libkf5mailtransport-data libkf5sendlater5 | 21:46 |
| jimarvan | libkf5templateparser5 | 21:46 |
| jimarvan | these 14 | 21:46 |
| jimarvan | gwenview is version 15.12.3 | 21:47 |
| jimarvan | and it seems OK | 21:47 |
| jimarvan | good night all :D | 21:48 |
| acheronuk | zzzzzzz | 21:53 |
| acheronuk | as well | 21:53 |
| soee | ahoneybun: probably, but clivejo always prefere to test it in staging | 21:53 |
| ahoneybun | no I mean it should be in staging | 21:54 |
| clivejo | did you all get kicked out? | 21:56 |
| acheronuk | yup | 21:57 |
| clivejo | being naughty? | 21:58 |
| acheronuk | wasn't even in front of PC | 21:59 |
| acheronuk | apps updated fine on laptop, but same probs with some other things being not installable | 22:02 |
| acheronuk | with that, goodnight :) | 22:02 |
| clivejo | night night | 22:04 |
| valorie | ah, so it wasn't just me | 22:08 |
| valorie | bumpy ride on freenode | 22:08 |
| clivejo | valorie: dont you have a bouncer? | 22:23 |
| valorie | I do, but it briefly disconnected | 22:25 |
| valorie | my connection was steady on linuxchix and rootsweb though | 22:25 |
| valorie | so it was just freenode barfing | 22:25 |
| soee | http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2016/07/kde-applications-1608-schedule-finalized.html | 23:23 |
| soee | https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Applications/16.08_Release_Schedule | 23:23 |
| clivejo | anyone shed some light on the mpeg thumbs in dophin? | 23:26 |
| soee | hey dont work :D | 23:26 |
| clivejo | I know that! | 23:26 |
| clivejo | but why! | 23:26 |
| soee | uhm, clivejo https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=201484 | 23:27 |
| soee | gram master versin of ffmpegthumbs? | 23:27 |
| soee | !info ffmpegthumbs | 23:28 |
| ubottu | Package ffmpegthumbs does not exist in yakkety | 23:28 |
| soee | !info ffmpegthumbs xenial | 23:28 |
| ubottu | ffmpegthumbs (source: ffmpegthumbs): video thumbnail generator using ffmpeg. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 15 kB, installed size 61 kB | 23:28 |
| clivejo | the 16.04.3 version should work | 23:28 |
| soee | !info kio-extras | 23:30 |
| ubottu | kio-extras (source: kio-extras): Extra functionality for kioslaves.. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 418 kB, installed size 1702 kB | 23:30 |
| soee | !info kio-extras xenial | 23:30 |
| ubottu | kio-extras (source: kio-extras): Extra functionality for kioslaves.. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 418 kB, installed size 1702 kB | 23:30 |
| clivejo | its installing /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so | 23:31 |
| soee | clivejo: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351894#c16 | 23:31 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 351894 in ffmpegthumbs "Missing video thumbnails after upgrading to 15.08" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 23:31 |
| soee | so the problem is wrong path to plugins ? | 23:33 |
| clivejo | I dunno | 23:35 |
| clivejo | its installing where cmake told it to install | 23:35 |
| clivejo | have you tried "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/* /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/" | 23:35 |
| soee | clivejo: ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/ and it contains only ffmpegthumbs.so | 23:36 |
| soee | and this one ffmpegthumbs.so does not exists in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ | 23:37 |
| soee | and dolphin looks for it in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ ? | 23:37 |
| clivejo | !info ffmpegthumbs | 23:38 |
| ubottu | Package ffmpegthumbs does not exist in yakkety | 23:38 |
| clivejo | oh its in proposed | 23:38 |
| clivejo | 15.12.3 is installing it to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so | 23:39 |
| soee | and is it valid path? | 23:40 |
| clivejo | 16.04.3 is to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so | 23:40 |
| soee | 16.04.3 ? | 23:40 |
| clivejo | sorry 16.04.2 | 23:41 |
| clivejo | the apps version we are working on | 23:41 |
| clivejo | and it is definitely there | 23:42 |
| soee | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics-thumbnailers/+bug/1574049 | 23:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1574049 in kdegraphics-thumbnailers (Ubuntu) "kdegraphics-thumbnailers 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 uses the wrong path for plugin libraries" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 23:42 |
| soee | and the firt one mentioned in comment - ffmpegthumbs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpegthumbs/+bug/1574037 | 23:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1574037 in ffmpegthumbs (Ubuntu) "ffmpegthumbs 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 uses the wrong path for plugin libraries" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 23:44 |
| soee | so i assume somthing frm this reports affects us? | 23:45 |
| clivejo | I cant even see where the problem lies | 23:46 |
| clivejo | the file is being installed in the right place | 23:46 |
| clivejo | but dolphin wont use it | 23:46 |
| soee | i have now video thumbs after linking it properly | 23:47 |
| soee | sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so | 23:47 |
| soee | do you have it: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so ? | 23:48 |
| clivejo | yes | 23:49 |
| soee | lol ? | 23:49 |
| soee | ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ | pastebinit | 23:49 |
| soee | i must see it ;D | 23:49 |
| clivejo | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 47760 Jun 29 11:51 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so | 23:52 |
| soee | and preiews enabled in Dolphin ? | 23:53 |
| soee | *previews | 23:53 |
| clivejo | nope | 23:53 |
| soee | oO | 23:53 |
| clivejo | I dunno | 23:54 |
| clivejo | I cant see hows its a packaging issue | 23:55 |
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