[00:06] <clivejo> an hour later and still not published
[00:06] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+packages?field.name_filter=pimcommon&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[00:07] <clivejo> really drives me insane
[00:37] <soee_> we do not release Alpha 1 right ?
[03:32] <soee_> lol i thought it is dead: Kaffeine 2.0.4 Released, Includes Major Improvements for Digital TV
[03:33] <soee_> clivejo: will you be able to package it ?
[03:45] <ahoneybun> mm
[03:46] <ahoneybun> soee_: why?
[03:47] <soee_> ahoneybun: why what ?
[03:47] <ahoneybun> package it
[03:47] <soee_> to be abel to install it ?
[03:48] <ahoneybun> but we have VLC and DragonPlayer
[03:48] <soee_> yes and this is argument whay we shoudln't use others ? :)
[03:52] <ahoneybun> mm
[03:55] <ahoneybun> soee_: we'll see
[03:56] <ahoneybun> trying it for the hell of it
[03:56] <soee_> ;D
[03:56] <ahoneybun> most likely will burn and crash
[03:56] <ahoneybun> *crash and burn
[03:56]  * ahoneybun thinks soee_ should go to the Dojo
[03:57] <ahoneybun> holly
[03:57] <ahoneybun> crap
[03:58] <ahoneybun> no way
[03:58] <soee_> :P
[03:58] <ahoneybun> soee_: guess who is going to test this first
[03:58] <ahoneybun> :{
[03:58] <ahoneybun> *:P
[03:59] <soee_> and crash laptop ? :D
[03:59] <ahoneybun> it plays audio and video fine
[03:59] <ahoneybun> only have mp3 and mp4
[03:59] <ahoneybun> it built with no errors
[04:00] <soee_> nice
[04:00] <ahoneybun> let me get it on LP 
[04:00] <ahoneybun> let's see if LP works with me too
[04:01] <soee_> +1
[04:01] <ahoneybun> mm where is the files to updload to LP
[04:01] <ahoneybun> *upload
[04:01] <ahoneybun> oh
[04:04] <ahoneybun> I'm going to have to get the changelog, deps and such fixed
[04:04] <ahoneybun> LP is going to yell other wise
[04:04] <soee_> this is black magic for me atm. :)
[04:04] <ahoneybun> "atm"
[04:05] <ahoneybun> and hope my key works
[04:05] <soee_> building for xenial or yakkety ?
[04:05] <ahoneybun> well I'm on xenial
[04:05] <ahoneybun> this package has not gotten update since Apr 2014
[04:06] <ahoneybun> in Ubuntu archive anyway
[04:06] <soee_> yeah, that is why i thought it was dead
[04:11] <ahoneybun> they have not updated the changelog from github anyway
[04:14] <ahoneybun> mm debuild is yelling at me
[04:19] <ahoneybun> mm
[04:19] <ahoneybun> http://blog.packagecloud.io/debian/debuild/packaging/2015/06/08/buildling-deb-packages-with-debuild/
[04:19] <ahoneybun> placeholder for Rick
[04:24] <ahoneybun> something about not finding kde.pm
[04:26] <soee> and what is it ?
[04:26] <soee> !info dke.pm
[04:27] <soee> !info kde.pm
[04:27] <ahoneybun> not sure 
[04:27] <soee> https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/pkg-kde-tools/filelist
[04:27] <ahoneybun> I know dh_autoreconf is for autoreconf.pm
[04:27] <ahoneybun> and quilt
[04:27] <soee>  /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Buildsystem/kde.pm
[04:27] <ahoneybun> mm
[04:28] <ahoneybun> ohhh
[04:29] <ahoneybun> mm still 
[04:29] <ahoneybun> I think there was a version it has in it
[04:31] <ahoneybun> same odd
[04:31] <ahoneybun> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/pkg-kde-tools/filelist
[04:33] <ahoneybun> it is saying aabout Perl
[04:33] <ahoneybun> but it looks like pkg-kde-tools pulls that
[04:33] <soee> what error ?
[04:33] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/18211109/
[04:36] <ahoneybun> mm it is doing this: /usr/local/share/perl/
[04:37] <ahoneybun> but pkg-kde-tools has: /usr/local/share/perl5/
[04:37] <ahoneybun> not sure if that is it
[04:38] <soee> !info pkg-kde-tools xenial
[04:39] <soee> !info pkg-kde-tools
[04:39] <ahoneybun> pkg-kde-tools (>= 0.14)
[04:39] <ahoneybun> is how I wrote it
[04:39] <ahoneybun> but pkg-kde-tools  did the same
[04:40] <ahoneybun> !info libxine2
[04:40] <ahoneybun> !info libxine2 xenial
[04:41] <ahoneybun> no clue
[04:42] <soee> we have to wait for some more experenced packager :-)
[04:42] <ahoneybun> so close too
[04:45] <ahoneybun> seems apachelogger had the same error 
[04:45] <ahoneybun> 5 years ago XD
[04:50] <ahoneybun> XD
[04:50] <soee> :D
[04:51] <ahoneybun> I was missing pkg-kde-tools
[04:51] <soee> oO
[04:51] <ahoneybun> now a new error
[04:51] <ahoneybun> not sure how
[04:51] <soee> what error ?
[04:52] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/18211500/
[04:52] <ahoneybun> seems to be about quilt
[04:52] <ahoneybun> I did install that
[04:53] <soee> but it cant findsource with proper format
[04:53] <ahoneybun> yea seems that way
[04:53] <soee> one level above you shoudl have ../kaffeine_2.0.4ubuntu1.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}
[04:53] <ahoneybun> not sure how to get those
[04:53] <ahoneybun> I remember debuild made them 
[04:53] <ahoneybun> I might be missing a few things, a bit rusty
[04:54] <soee> isnt ths the source provided by devs ?
[04:54] <ahoneybun> not in a tar
[04:54] <ahoneybun> I got this from github
[04:56] <soee> ahoneybun: https://linuxtv.org/downloads/kaffeine/
[04:56] <soee> grab one ?
[04:56] <ahoneybun> got it now
[04:56] <ahoneybun> also found a decent changelog
[04:59] <ahoneybun> yay patches
[04:59] <soee> :P
[05:00] <ahoneybun> not even sure if that one is needed anymore
[05:03] <ahoneybun> I removed it
[05:06] <ahoneybun> also change quilt to native and got around that error
[05:07] <ahoneybun> now I need my secret key
[05:10] <ahoneybun> soee: still with me lol
[05:10] <soee> woot woot ?
[05:10] <ahoneybun> not yet
[05:10] <ahoneybun> just got my key from the laptiop
[05:14] <ahoneybun> and it's on Lp
[05:14] <ahoneybun> *LP
[05:14] <ahoneybun> let's see some fireworks!
[05:14] <soee> :)
[05:15] <ahoneybun> 317 updates on the laptop lol
[05:15] <ahoneybun> soee: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-packages/+build/10197151
[05:15] <ahoneybun> not sure if you can watch it or now
[05:15] <ahoneybun> *not
[05:15] <soee> yup
[05:16] <ahoneybun> watch it crash and burn XD
[05:18] <ahoneybun> yep
[05:18] <soee> :D
[05:18] <ahoneybun> burned
[05:19] <ahoneybun> mm seems to be somethings that are not anywhere
[05:19] <ahoneybun> old oxygen icons
[05:19] <soee> rolf
[05:19] <ahoneybun> rolf?
[05:19] <soee> rofl
[05:19] <ahoneybun> not sure what that means
[05:20] <soee> rofl = Rolling On Floor Laughing
[05:20] <ahoneybun> mm might know the fix
[05:22] <ahoneybun> mm
[05:22] <ahoneybun> well I know what file is telling it to do that
[05:25] <ahoneybun> let's try this again soee
[05:25] <soee> +1
[05:26] <ahoneybun> damn
[05:26] <ahoneybun> I have to wait 30mins
[05:26] <ahoneybun> to start the build
[05:27] <ahoneybun> nvm
[05:27] <soee> why ? LP blocks you 
[05:27] <soee> ?
[05:27] <ahoneybun> XD
[05:27] <ahoneybun> now it says 4
[05:27] <ahoneybun> weird
[05:27] <ahoneybun> 1
[05:27] <ahoneybun> mgraesslin: ?
[05:28] <ahoneybun> is that the  KWin guy or Wayland
[05:28] <ahoneybun> mm now 2mins
[05:28] <ahoneybun> so weird
[05:28] <mgraesslin> ahoneybun: I just connected, if you want to ask me something, I might miss context
[05:28] <ahoneybun> no no my bad
[05:28] <ahoneybun> I meant o/
[05:28] <ahoneybun> XD
[05:29] <ahoneybun> soee: building
[05:29] <ahoneybun> mgraesslin: I saw you at Akademy last year
[05:29] <ahoneybun> saw/met
[05:30] <mgraesslin> yes
[05:30] <ahoneybun> I was with the weird guy interviewing you lol
[05:30] <mgraesslin> yes I remember you ;-)
[05:30] <ahoneybun> oh awesome!
[05:31] <ahoneybun> ;)
[05:31]  * ahoneybun wonders if soee pased out
[05:31] <soee> me ? :D
[05:31] <soee> we are starting work day now here in Poland :)
[05:31] <ahoneybun> oh it's 1:30am here XD
[05:32] <ahoneybun> mgraesslin: I want to say you work on KWin
[05:32] <ahoneybun> I could be wrong
[05:32] <mgraesslin> no, that's correct - I'm working on KWin right now
[05:32] <ahoneybun> I knew it was something cool KWin =/ any WM
[05:33] <ahoneybun> in the good way
[05:34] <ahoneybun> soee: if this fails I might go to sleep
[05:34] <ahoneybun> 75% sure
[05:34] <ahoneybun> damn
[05:34] <soee> hihi :)
[05:35] <ahoneybun> I removed those
[05:40] <ahoneybun> soee: night
[05:40] <ahoneybun> someone else will have to help me
[07:43] <vip> hi ho
[08:23] <jimarvan> good morning kubuntu! :)
[08:26] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/kaffeine.git/log/
[08:31] <jimarvan> OMG
[08:31] <jimarvan> acheronuk: I LOVE YOU
[08:32] <jimarvan> it works with my 10 year old mpeg1 TV tuner in my laptop!
[08:32] <jimarvan> :D :D :D
[08:42] <acheronuk> lol. great :)
[08:44] <acheronuk> clivejo: no libkf5grantleetheme in XX apps staging is roadblocking much of what hasn't built yet, yes? 
[08:45] <yofel> true, kaffeine is the only working TV Tuner application that I know of. Nice to see that it's still alive :)
[09:29]  * clivejo wonders who the weird guy with Aaron was
[09:29] <clivejo> did he have a chicken head?
[09:41] <jimarvan> clivejo: where did you see that?
[09:42] <clivejo> where did I see chicken head?
[09:42] <clivejo> have seen photos of it
[09:48] <jimarvan> xD
[09:48] <jimarvan> I miss that cricket :(
[09:49] <jimarvan> ahoneybun: I want that cricket back on the show! :P
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:52] <jimarvan> BluesKaj: hey :)
[11:52] <BluesKaj> hi jimarvan
[11:57] <BluesKaj> just received an email about yakkety alpha1 bring released, hope the crashy ubiquity installer has been fixed
[11:57] <yofel> should work now with the slideshow gone
[11:59] <BluesKaj> what was the slideshow exactly?
[12:00] <yofel> the slides it shows you while it is installing (after you finished all configuration steps)
[12:01] <jimarvan> I had issues to install yakkete on virtualbox
[12:02] <jimarvan> but I will try later on at home, probably it is my old laptop
[12:02] <BluesKaj> so unnessary semi ads about kubuntu assets
[12:02] <jimarvan> well I like them xD
[12:03] <BluesKaj> the're fine if they don't crash the installer
[12:03] <BluesKaj> they're
[12:05] <jimarvan> ;)
[12:06] <jimarvan> Has anyone ran the live yakkete on Virtualbox?
[12:06] <jimarvan> and got a black screen at the end?
[12:06] <jimarvan> *run
[12:08] <yofel> wouldn't really suprise me. We've had various session startup issues since 16.04, and nobody looked at those in depth so far
[12:11] <jimarvan> <--
[12:11] <jimarvan> I am that guy :D
[12:11] <acheronuk> jimarvan: Live session was fine in virtualbox here yesterday
[12:11] <jimarvan> ok so it is my poor old laptop 
[12:12] <acheronuk> apart from plasma being 5.5.5 :( that is
[12:12] <yofel> might also be a bit random (or version / driver ? dependent) as I had it work and fail in VBox
[12:13] <jimarvan> hmm I am boosting RAM from 2 GB to 3 GB (out of 4)
[12:13] <jimarvan> right now just to check
[12:13] <acheronuk> just zysncing the iso, then I will try
[12:13] <jimarvan> I hate that Vbox suggests 718Mb RAM and 8 GB disk space :(
[12:14] <jimarvan> They should increase those recommendations a little...
[12:14] <yofel> right...
[12:14] <jimarvan> made it!
[12:14] <jimarvan> yeap it was low ram issue
[12:14] <jimarvan> WORKS
[12:15]  * jimarvan loves that desktop folder little hidden install icon xD
[12:15] <acheronuk> OK, here. 2GB of RAM allocated
[12:15] <acheronuk> lol. ignore the VB suggested defaults
[12:16] <jimarvan> ;)
[12:16] <yofel> I think we "officially" require 1024?
[12:16] <jimarvan> yeap 1024 runs
[12:16] <jimarvan> i had the absolute defaults... :( sorry
[12:17] <yofel> well, still better than kvm which defaults to 256 IIRC? ^^
[12:17] <acheronuk> the VBox default for *buntu are 768, which is silly
[12:17] <jimarvan> indeed
[12:17] <jimarvan> and a lot of new starting people that want to try
[12:17] <yofel> well, ubuntu requires 512 according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[12:17] <acheronuk> but sounds plausible enough that you can be fooled
[12:17] <jimarvan> they come back and say "it does not work"
[12:18] <yofel> I wonder if we should be on that page..
[12:18] <mamarley> I tried to install Kubuntu Xenial on a KVM VM a while back with 1024 but it kept crashing due to OOM.  It worked fine after I bumped it to 2048.
[12:18] <jimarvan> not until that 512 figure doubles yofel xD
[12:19] <yofel> well, they talk about Lubuntu further down
[12:19] <acheronuk> yofel: yes we/you should, kubuntu is not a minor derivative
[12:19] <yofel> OTOH, telling people that we eat memory is probably not that great of an idea
[12:19] <yofel> OTOH #2: I blame mysql
[12:19] <acheronuk> letting them find out later on is worse IMHO
[12:21] <jimarvan> mysqld memory issue you mean?
[12:21] <jimarvan> wasn't that fixed?
[12:21] <yofel> no
[12:21] <jimarvan> ah ok
[12:22] <jimarvan> https://s32.postimg.org/gdswelfp1/Screenshot_20160701_131958.png
[12:22] <jimarvan> :D
[12:23] <jimarvan> on a 2006 laptop, I just cant believe it
[12:23] <yofel> thanks for reminding me that I need to do that folderview SRU
[12:24] <jimarvan> ;)
 /me tried to package kaffenine
[12:37] <BluesKaj> kaffenine still around ?
[12:38] <BluesKaj> or kafrine eveb
[12:38] <BluesKaj> oops , need more light , kaffeine
[12:49] <jimarvan> Kaffeine rocks hehe
[12:52] <BluesKaj> mpv is my fav movie player now, after finding a config file for the audio settings enabling DD and DTS outputs thru the spdif 
[12:52] <BluesKaj> it's video handling is smoother and cleaner than VLC as well
[13:03] <jimarvan> hmm i will give it a try
[13:11] <acheronuk> smplayer using the mpv backend works very well here
[13:16] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/10198747
[13:17] <BluesKaj> the mplayer front ends kmplayer and smplayer never quite cut it with the digital audio out options IME, this pc is our HTPC connected to an audio receiver and TV
[13:19] <clivejo> acheronuk: can you see why this is FTBFS - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/270141460/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kdesdk-kioslaves_4%3A16.04.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[13:20] <acheronuk> clivejo: it's been broken compiling against libsvn 1.9 for ages.
[13:21] <clivejo> do you know what the status is?
[13:21] <acheronuk> package is not even in xenial (was left out?) and I guess that was why?
[13:21] <acheronuk> debian git have fixed by disabling the svn part/sub-package
[13:22] <clivejo> would you do me a fix?
[13:22] <clivejo> if you have time
[13:23] <acheronuk> Don't know what the official status is, but I would guess no one cares enough to fix the svn part
[13:23] <clivejo> better to follow debian lead
[13:23] <acheronuk> clivejo: not before this evening, if that's ok?
[13:23] <clivejo> I think once thats sorted apps are almost ready to go
[13:23] <clivejo> yeah no hurry
[13:23] <acheronuk> has PIM finally built? 
[13:24] <acheronuk> in XX
[13:24] <clivejo> yeah and 16.04.3 fixes my korganiser crash!
[13:24]  * clivejo is very happy
[13:24] <acheronuk> great. had the ppa enabled, but was wanting to remove the PIM stuff
[13:24] <acheronuk> if PIM built, that should be sorted
[13:25] <clivejo> oh xenial hasnt totally built yet
[13:25] <clivejo> libgrantlee took forever to publish
[13:25] <clivejo> and Im poking it on, but publisher is soooooo slow
[13:25] <acheronuk> LP slow as ever... sigh
[13:26] <jimarvan> :(
[13:26] <acheronuk> I use akregator a lot, so need it NOT to remove that on a dist-upgrade
[13:26] <clivejo> me too
[13:27] <clivejo> but when I opened kontact it was crashing due to korganiser
[13:27] <clivejo> but the entire suite seems stable on Yakkety
[13:28] <acheronuk> hopefully the same on xenial then :)
[13:29] <clivejo> if mailcommon ever publishs!
[13:29]  * clivejo spits grape seeds at LP
[13:31] <acheronuk> hmm... from yesterday http://i.imgur.com/GgAfebW.png
[13:54] <marco-parillo> Did anybody test that the daily images install without the slideshow?
[13:55] <acheronuk> did on a manual remove the other day, and let it go as far as the file copy stage on a test earlier
[13:55] <acheronuk> does it still fail?
[13:56] <marco-parillo> I was willing to test if nobody else has.
[13:56] <acheronuk> try it. I can only do so in virtualbox ATM
[13:58] <jimarvan> guys, test installing on mine VBox right now
[13:59] <jimarvan> (the one with 1GB RAM)
[14:04] <marco-parillo> Thanks. I will pass as (1) I can only do in a VM myself, and (2) it looks as if jimarvan is ahead of me.
[14:04] <jimarvan> no worries will tell you in a few mins
 I feel like a failure now
[14:04] <jimarvan> why? :(
 ..
 I tried 2times to get that built
[14:11] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: second time https://launchpadlibrarian.net/270077284/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kaffeine_2.0.4ubuntu1-ppa2_BUILDING.txt.gz
 Only 2 times?
 That's not failure
[14:12] <ahoneybun> yea it was 1:30am at that point
[14:14] <ahoneybun> so I went to sleep
[14:14] <yofel> 2 times is definitely not a failure :D
[14:14] <ahoneybun> not enought?
[14:15] <ahoneybun> *enough
[14:15]  * yofel remembers genuine kde-workspace ~ppa14 numbers or so
[14:15] <yofel> that was a fun thing
[14:15] <ahoneybun> well for something like kaffeine
[14:16] <yofel> FWIW, missing files can take a couple repetitions. I would rather recommend building in a chroot where you have the build result so you can run dpkg-buildpackage -nc after fixing something
[14:16] <ahoneybun> mm
[14:17] <ahoneybun> I removed the lines in kaffeine that were doing that I thought
[14:17] <ahoneybun> kaffeine.install
[14:17] <yofel> is it the same error as before?
[14:17] <ahoneybun> yep
[14:19] <ahoneybun> surprised I got the key signing to work lol
[14:20] <yofel> well, they're still there
[14:20] <ahoneybun> yea I know
[14:20] <yofel> is that a native package o.O?
[14:20] <ahoneybun> mm?
[14:21] <yofel> FWIW, you might want to base 2.0.4 on the debian 2.0.3 version
[14:23] <ahoneybun> oh I grabbed the version we had
[14:23] <ahoneybun> which was a bad idea now
[14:47] <jimarvan> Sorry for the delay I did the mistake to install 3rd party packages
[14:47] <jimarvan> almost done with the Yaketee installation
[14:47] <jimarvan> 91% so far all seem ok
[14:48] <jimarvan> damn
[14:48] <jimarvan> should it reboot at 93%????
[14:48] <jimarvan> without warning?
 Pretty sure no
[14:49] <jimarvan> well it didn't actually reboot, it closed the installation and asked me to press enter after i remove media
[14:49] <jimarvan> INSTALLED :)
[14:49] <jimarvan> and up and running
[14:49] <jimarvan> congratulations
 Oh nice
[14:49]  * jimarvan cheers
[14:50] <jimarvan> marco-parillo: clivejo: installation succesfully completed! :)
[14:50] <jimarvan> well done
[14:50] <marco-parillo> Well done. Always nice to have a stop-ship bug resolved.
[14:50] <jimarvan> I will have a look on the installer
[14:50] <jimarvan> and see what I can do
[14:50] <jimarvan> :>
[14:51] <jimarvan> Have in mind, the installer could not launch on VBox with 1GB ram, I had to up it to 2 GB to actually launch
[14:56] <marco-parillo> On my netbook with 1GB, I used to get low on memory warnings when the Kubuntu installer went to Plasma 5, so I guess that was coming.
[15:12] <acheronuk> ahoneybun yofel: I cheated and pinched the debian packaging that had only been updated 2 hrs previously
[15:13] <yofel> XD
[15:13] <acheronuk> even then, it's slight luck it built 1st time!
[15:13] <acheronuk> even though I did test in pbuilder 1st
[15:23] <apol> hey, where should one report packaging issues in kubuntu?
[15:24] <jimarvan> hmm
[15:24] <apol> I've just been pointed out that khangman lacks a qml-module-qtgraphicaleffects dependency
[15:25] <clivejo> apol: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khangman
[15:25] <clivejo> open a bug on LP for it
[15:25] <clivejo> what release is the bug in?
[15:27] <clivejo> Hi Rick_Timmis
[15:28] <clivejo> did you get in trouble last night?
[15:34] <apol> clivejo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khangman/+bug/1598213
[15:34] <apol> clivejo: 16.04, AFAIK
[15:36] <clivejo> just installed KHangman on Yakkety, seems to be working
[15:36] <clivejo> what happens when you run it?
[15:48] <acheronuk> PIM building on XX at last!
[15:56] <jimarvan> :D 
[15:56] <jimarvan> is that the personal instant messenger, right?
[15:56] <clivejo> no
[15:56] <clivejo> Personal Information Manager
[15:57] <clivejo> basically the suite making up Kontact
[16:02] <jimarvan> see ya peeps! :D
[16:14] <clivejo> yofel: what do you think? http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/forks/drumstick.git/
[16:21] <acheronuk> clivejo: If I merge in debian's packaging for kdesdk-kioslaves, which is 4:16.04.0-1, would that then need ubuntu one changing from 4:16.04.2-0ubuntu1 to 4:16.04.2-1ubuntu1 ?
[16:46] <soee> brr
[16:46] <soee> ahoneybun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev8Zltau4zw
[16:49] <soee> yofel: ping
[17:06] <soee> !info smartmontools xenial
[17:12] <acheronuk> yofel clivejo: taking debian changes as read, and that the debian revision would bump, this is what it would give me for kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[17:12] <acheronuk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18250016/
[17:16] <yofel> clivejo: context?
[17:16] <yofel> soee: hm?
[17:16] <soee> yofel: if Aaron fix the kaffeine packaging, can we push it into archive ?
[17:17] <ahoneybun> I fixed nothing
[17:17] <yofel> soee: yakkety already has 2.0.3, or do you really need 2.0.4?
[17:17] <ahoneybun> Rik did that
[17:17] <soee> the latest
[17:17] <soee> ahoneybun: oh?
[17:17] <yofel> acheronuk: looks fine
[17:17] <soee> wha about xenial ?
[17:18] <ahoneybun> yep
[17:18] <acheronuk> yofel: I'll do a merge proposal then
[17:18] <soee> in his ppa soewhere ?
[17:19] <ahoneybun> yea
[17:19] <ahoneybun> https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/10198747
[17:19] <acheronuk> ahoneybun soee: I just pinched the latest debian packaging
[17:19] <ahoneybun> yea I went from the newest in Ubuntu archive
[17:19] <ahoneybun> bad move
[17:19] <soee> :)
[17:19] <acheronuk> only had to update the changelog
[17:20] <soee> installed fine - Ricks package
[17:21]  * yofel gives up and installs plasma 5.6
[17:21] <soee> ;o
[17:22] <acheronuk> kaffiene built against a newer version of VLC in my ppa than the one in my archive. forgot I had that. but don't think it's critical
[17:22] <acheronuk> have not tested app more than trivially though
[17:26] <acheronuk> hmm... kaffeine is not very smooth compared to mpv
[17:29] <mamarley> I haven't used Kaffeine since the KDE3 days!
[17:29] <acheronuk> same here I think
[17:32] <soee> i liked it a lot and i still do :)
[17:35] <mamarley> I used it until KDE4 came out, then I switched to Xine for a while, then to (s)mplayer, then to Xine, and these days I find myself using Kodi quite a bit.
[17:35] <mamarley> Oh, and VLC.
[17:35] <acheronuk> still like smplayer, which is now QT5
[17:35] <jimarvan> guys does anyone know what happened with amarok?
[17:35] <soee> i always like the name: kaffeine :D
[17:35] <jimarvan> is it abandoned?
[17:35] <mamarley> I use smplayer for playing DVDs when I don't want Kodi, since VLC plays DVDs with lots of judder for some reason.
[17:36] <ahoneybun> I don;t think so
[17:36] <ahoneybun> valorie: amarok status.?
[17:38] <acheronuk> not a lot of work going on https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=amarok.git
[17:38] <jimarvan> thanks acheronuk as i thought :(
[17:39] <mamarley> I really liked Amarok with KDE3 but the KDE4 version never really made me happy. :/
[17:39] <acheronuk> that's another one I used to use all the time with KDE 3, but 4 somewhat ruined it
[17:39] <acheronuk> mamarley: snap!
[17:40] <acheronuk> far from perfect, but clementine does most of what I want now
[17:41]  * mamarley uses VLC for that.
[17:43]  * jimarvan same VLC addict here :)
[17:44]  * mamarley just wishes VLC would start playing DVDs smoothly again, then he could ditch (s)mplayer entirely.
[17:44] <soee> :D
[17:45] <soee> btw. like a year agoor more there were ome posts about Dragon Player 3 i think
[17:45] <mamarley> It is really odd though, because it only happens with DVDs.  Blurays (which are significantly more resource-intensive) play just fine.
[17:45] <soee> the idea died ?
[17:46] <BluesKaj> mamarley: mpv works well now , VLC is still a good player , but mpv seems better on difficult videos 
[17:46] <mamarley> BluesKaj: I have tried MPV, but it has one critical issue for my setup: It doesn't support streaming video over SMB.
[17:49] <acheronuk> mamarley: if I use a file manager like thunar with gvfsd-smb support to open the video with smplayer over smb, it then works and streams for me
[17:50] <mamarley> I don't want to stop using Dolphin though.
[17:50] <acheronuk> fair enough
[17:51] <mamarley> I have a setup that works pretty well though.  Kodi for DVDs and anything recorded using TVHeadend, VLC when I don'
[17:51] <soee> clivejo: only kdesdk-kioslaves fails in Xenial now ? (except minuet)
[17:51] <mamarley> t want to mouse through Kodi's interface, and smplayer with mplayer if I want to play a DVD without Kodi.
[17:52] <BluesKaj> kodi useful for internet tv, otherwise it's kind of clunky IMO
[17:53] <mamarley> BluesKaj: With a mouse, sure, but if you have an IR remote and a computer attached to a TV, it works really well.  It is also the only video player I have found that can display closed captioning/subtitles from ATSC transport streams.
[17:55] <BluesKaj> I just keep media in their respective Music etc folders on the outboard and put in them "places" on dolphin, and yes I use a wireless KB and mouse and this pc is a HTPC connected to an audio receiver and tv ...I just need a remote to change the sources on the tv
[18:03] <acheronuk> clivejo: something not right with xenial apps http://paste.ubuntu.com/18254270/
[18:04] <acheronuk> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/18254372/
[18:07] <clivejo> any idea what the problem is
[18:12] <clivejo> what version of libkf5akonadicore5 does it want to install?
[18:12] <acheronuk> if I do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/18254967/ it then works for the upgrade, but lose the packages listed there
[18:13] <acheronuk> 4:16.04.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 for libakonadicore
[18:14] <clivejo> can you try installing that on its own
[18:15] <acheronuk> hmmm. done the upgrade now
[18:19] <acheronuk> so of any consequence, forcing things a bit I lost....
[18:20] <acheronuk> oh.. wait
[18:20]  * clivejo waits
[18:26] <acheronuk> lol. kgpg is the only thing as far as I can see.
[18:27] <acheronuk> some of the 4.xxx stuff no longer installs, but you expect that I suppose
[18:27] <acheronuk> presumably needs some replaces/breaks so make upgrade work, rather than having to fudge/force it like I just did?
[18:29] <acheronuk> kgpg is still kde4, so not usre if that can work 
[18:29] <acheronuk> *sure
[18:32] <soee> yofel: what do you think about my suggestion to disable drivers manager kcm till it is fixed ?
[18:32] <acheronuk> I suppose jumping from apps 15.12.3 to 16.04.2 is bound to have fallout
[18:33] <clivejo> acheronuk: only spotted this now
[18:33] <clivejo> kdesdk-kioslaves (4:16.04.2-1ubuntu1)
[18:33] <clivejo> the -1 is the debian version
[18:34] <clivejo> Debian have 16.04.0 
[18:34] <clivejo> but they dont have 16.04.2
[18:35] <clivejo> yet
[18:35] <clivejo> therefore our should be 4:16.04.2-0ubuntu1
[18:35] <acheronuk> ah. I just misread their version number
[18:36] <clivejo> no problem, took me ages to understand version numbers
[18:36] <acheronuk> otherwise I would have left ti
[18:36] <clivejo> had yofel's head turned
[18:36] <acheronuk> didn't misunderstand, just misread
[18:39] <acheronuk> clivejo: kgpg is not installable on YY either
[18:40] <clivejo> anyone else able to do a test install of apps 16.04.2 on senial
[18:40] <clivejo> whats the message?
[18:40] <soee> clivejo: yes i can test
[18:41] <clivejo> soee: remember its staging, it could kill your kitten
[18:41] <acheronuk> http://i.imgur.com/cTZX8nC.png
[18:41] <clivejo> eak
[18:41] <acheronuk> same as xenial with the apps staging ppa 
[18:42]  * acheronuk admits he uses seahorse
[18:44] <clivejo> acheronuk: what version is it trying to install?
[18:44] <soee-dev> :)
[18:45] <acheronuk> Candidate: 4:16.04.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1
[18:45] <acheronuk> from apt-cache policy
[18:46] <acheronuk> so presumably that?
[18:49] <acheronuk> CMakeLists for 16.04.2 shows it's still kde4, despite that version number
[18:55] <soee-dev> clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18258369/
[18:56] <soee-dev> so a lot of pim related stuff tobe removed
[18:57] <acheronuk> in a xenial VM I get a cleaner upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/18258458/
[18:57] <clivejo> soee: looks ok
[18:57] <acheronuk> so was just me having some kde4 stuff installed that c***ped it out!
[18:58] <clivejo> acheronuk: do you think we should merge with debian in regards kgpg?
[18:58] <acheronuk> I have not looked at the differences
[19:02] <soee-dev> clivejo: ok, upgrading
[19:04] <clivejo> you want to try it?
[19:05] <acheronuk> I'm just building in pbuilder with the debian packaging. See if that is installable
[19:05] <clivejo> ah good idea
[19:07] <acheronuk> still get cannot install libakonadi-contact4 etc
[19:08] <clivejo> wonder why its looking for that!
[19:09] <soee-dev> cant we grep 16.04 fiels and see wht requires it ?
[19:09] <acheronuk> maybe you can import keys for your contacts in akonadi?
[19:09] <clivejo> !info kdelibs5-dev
[19:09] <clivejo> ah, thats an old PIM dev
[19:09] <clivejo> try removing that
[19:09] <acheronuk> yep
[19:09] <clivejo> !info kdepimlibs5-dev
[19:10] <clivejo> another old one
[19:10] <clivejo> wonder what the new one is
[19:10] <clivejo> remove them both and see what cmake is looking for
[19:13] <acheronuk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18259813/
[19:13] <soee-dev_> clivejo: ping
[19:14] <acheronuk> so http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?mode=filename&suite=xenial&section=all&arch=any&keywords=KdepimLibsConfig&searchon=contents
[19:14] <clivejo> soee-dev_: whats up?
[19:14] <soee-dev_> clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18259866/
[19:15] <soee-dev_> clivejo: so from what i see all looks prerry good
[19:15] <soee-dev_> reboot now
[19:15] <clivejo> soee-dev_: looks ok
[19:15] <acheronuk> so it only really has probs with the kde4 leftovers
[19:15] <clivejo> can you test the applications#
[19:16] <jimarvan> which ones?
[19:16] <clivejo> all of them
[19:16] <jimarvan> roger
[19:16] <acheronuk> so kgpg needs kdepimlibs5-dev :(
[19:19] <acheronuk> ohh! akregator got back feed icon support :)
[19:22] <clivejo> acheronuk: in the rules files can you bump include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/debian-qt-kde.mk to version 3
[19:22] <clivejo> try a rebuild
[19:24] <acheronuk> trying with that and the depends back
[19:24] <clivejo> keep the depends out
[19:24] <clivejo> they look too old
[19:25] <acheronuk> cmake will fail if not
[19:25] <clivejo> yeah
[19:25] <clivejo> I want it to
[19:25] <soee-dev> clivejo: ok, apps looks prerry goofd
[19:26] <clivejo> version 3 is KF5, Im wondering if we are building version 4 by mistake
[19:28] <acheronuk> there is no kf5 in that cmakelist
[19:28] <acheronuk> so it just fails as before
[19:28] <clivejo> so the debian packaging is failing too?
[19:29] <acheronuk> yes
[19:29] <clivejo> I dunno then :/
[19:29] <acheronuk> or, it builds, but is not installable
[19:30] <acheronuk> not on xenial with the apps ppa, anyway
[19:31] <clivejo> installable on yakkety?
[19:31] <acheronuk> not with apps staging enabled
[19:31] <clivejo> Ive just pinged maxy about it
[19:32] <acheronuk> if you adjust some depends/breaks etc on other packages, it might get there
[19:32] <acheronuk> but not sure what tonight
[19:37] <jimarvan> wow busy night :o
[19:38] <clivejo> soee: still with us?
[19:38] <soee> aye
[19:38] <clivejo> how goes the testing?
[19:38] <soee> clivejo: i installed it fine, tested (run few apps) and all smees fine
[19:39] <soee> but we need more testers when it comes to apps
[19:39] <jimarvan> just returned from sainburys
[19:39] <acheronuk> right. just off to enable staging on my laptop
[19:39] <jimarvan> downloading latest iso and starting testing
[19:39] <soee> i think Plama and Frameworks are always easier than apps to package and test
[19:39] <soee> jimarvan: xenial apps ?
[19:40] <jimarvan> soee: which apps you need testing? \
[19:40] <soee> jimarvan: 16.04.2 on Xenial
[19:40] <jimarvan> understood
[19:40] <soee> from staging apps ppa
[19:41] <jimarvan> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma?
[19:41] <jimarvan> confirm?
[19:41] <soee> no
[19:41] <jimarvan> sorry :(
[19:42] <jimarvan> which one?
[19:42] <soee> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications
[19:42] <jimarvan> got it
[19:42] <soee> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-kdeapplications
[19:42] <jimarvan> i will install the VBox right away and start
[19:42] <soee> mamarley: are you aple to test them ?
[19:42] <soee> *able
[19:42] <jimarvan> ofc
[19:43] <jimarvan> i have an SSD drive shouldn't take long to set it up
[19:43] <soee> ;)
[19:43] <jimarvan> :>
[19:43] <mamarley> soee: 16.04.2 on Xenial?  Not at the moment, but later today I can install them on a VM>
[19:43]  * acheronuk wants SSD
[19:43] <soee> mamarley: woudl be cool, thanks
[19:43] <jimarvan> acheronuk: what size?
[19:43]  * jimarvan 120 Gb?
[19:44] <acheronuk> 2-300 for pref
[19:44] <jimarvan> ah ok
[19:44] <jimarvan> because the small ones now are VERY cheap
[19:44] <soee> i have 120 GB on both laptop and PC :)
[19:44] <soee> true
[19:44] <jimarvan> 39-50 pounds for under 100Gb
[19:44] <jimarvan> pro-brexit xD
[19:44] <jimarvan> anyway enough chit chat
[19:44] <jimarvan> going virtual mode :P
[19:45] <yofel> talking about SSDs, someone buy me a 2TB one :P
[19:45] <acheronuk> was looking at https://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-Ultra-Sata-2-5-inch-Internal/dp/B00M8ABCZM
[19:45] <jimarvan> what are you going to do with 2TB? fill it with pron? :P
[19:45] <acheronuk> but not sure if any good
[19:45] <yofel> only partly ;P
[19:45] <jimarvan> acheronuk: in my company they are insane with chromebooks
[19:46] <jimarvan> I convinced the boss to stop wasting his money on crap and let me upgrade all old laptops with small SSDs and install kubuntu 16.04
[19:46] <jimarvan> preparing 12 laptops for next week ;)
[19:46] <yofel> XD
[19:46] <jimarvan> people LOVE KUBUNTU
[19:46] <soee> yes!
[19:46] <jimarvan> i will send you an e-mail from a home manager to see how much they love it
[19:46] <jimarvan> but yet again
[19:46]  * soee wonders if yofel saw the question before ..
[19:47] <jimarvan> let me do this *virtual mode engaged*
[19:47] <yofel> saw it
[19:47] <yofel> can't make up my mind
[19:47] <acheronuk> hands up who uses kgpg?
[19:47] <jimarvan> for kmail?
[19:47] <yofel> that thing is kind of important, esp. on e.g. virtualbox (ok, we have gcc on the image now, so the guest additions should work..)
[19:47] <soee> i'm not sure how hard it is to disbale it but we have smething broken there that migh confuse users
[19:47] <yofel> but yeah, it's somewhat broken :/
[19:48] <jimarvan> :/
[19:48] <yofel> kmail uses kgpg?
[19:48] <acheronuk> hope not!
[19:48]  * yofel uses kgpg on occasion - like twice a year
[19:49] <acheronuk> it's kde4 and is uninstallable with apps-staging as it stands
[19:50] <jimarvan> OMG STOP RAINING ALREADY :(((
[19:50] <jimarvan> i wanted to go to the beach tomorrow fml
[19:55] <jimarvan> question
[19:55] <jimarvan> should I avoid install updates?
[19:55] <soee> huh?
[19:56] <jimarvan> i mean on the install screen
[19:56] <soee> well installation will be faster but in the end you will have to install them after reboot :D
[19:56]  * jimarvan facepalms
[19:57] <jimarvan> ok then
[19:57] <yofel> IIRC that only makes ubiquity download them in advance, so you can install them after install
[19:57] <soee> +1
[19:57] <BluesKaj> i always wait til the OS is done installing, just incase 
[19:58] <jimarvan> gotcha
[19:58] <jimarvan> 5 mins left to download the xenial iso
[19:58] <soee> BluesKaj: you have some machine with Xenial ?
[19:58] <BluesKaj> yeah, my laptop
[19:58] <soee> wanna test apps 16.04 ?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> already added that above ppa to my Yakkety install, all is well so far
[20:00] <soee> yes but testing for Xenial is pretty important
[20:00] <yofel> hm
[20:00] <yofel> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[20:00] <yofel>   accountwizard akonadi-server akregator kaddressbook kdepim-runtime kmail knotes kontact korganizer libkf5incidenceeditorsng5 libkf5kipi30.0.0 libkf5noteshared5
[20:00] <yofel> that's too much
[20:00] <jimarvan> YES
[20:00] <jimarvan> lol do it!
[20:00] <jimarvan> xD
[20:00] <yofel> just a chroot anyway 
[20:00] <soee> yofel: on Xenial ?
[20:00] <acheronuk> yofel: that's what I had earlier
[20:00] <yofel> soee: yes
[20:01] <acheronuk> can be worked around, but not for kgpg
[20:01] <yofel> chroot was set up with: apt install --install-recommends kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-full digikam kdevelop calligra
[20:02] <acheronuk> hmmm... so maybe somthign else there
[20:02] <soee> uhmm something related to diigikam -> kipi ?
[20:02] <yofel> I'm more worried about PIM
[20:02] <yofel> let me read the debug output
[20:04] <acheronuk> what happens with a 'apt-get install akregator kmail akonadi-server' ?
[20:05] <acheronuk> doing that removed some old kde4 stuff for me, and allowed a cleanish upgrade
[20:06] <yofel> well, aptitude says  akonadi-server : Breaks: libakonadi-kde4 but 4:4.14.10-1ubuntu2 is installed.
[20:06] <yofel> and that wants to completely remove calligra now
[20:06] <acheronuk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18254967/
[20:07] <yofel> apt just gets to a different conclusion
[20:07] <acheronuk> but I don't have calligra
[20:07] <yofel> yeah, that's about what aptitude gives me
[20:08] <BluesKaj> soee:  installing packages with staging-kdeapplications now on xenial...ok done , rebooting
[20:08] <jimarvan> :D
[20:09] <jimarvan> 50% on installing myself
[20:09] <acheronuk>  calligra-libs : Depends: libakonadi-kde4 (>= 4:4.5.86) but it is not going to be installed
[20:09] <yofel> apt just gets to a different conclusion
[20:09] <yofel> o.O
[20:09] <yofel> lag
[20:11] <acheronuk> too much breakage on kde4 based stuff :(
[20:12] <yofel> I guess uploading a calligra build without akonadi support would do the job
[20:12] <yofel> what does it use that for anyway..
[20:13] <acheronuk> I'm going to go find a glass of wine and come back to this tomorrow :)
[20:13] <jimarvan> :)
[20:13] <BluesKaj> soee. looks good, anything troublesome to lookout for ?
[20:13] <soee> yofel: so the calligra is the faulty package ?
[20:14] <clivejo> isnt calligra broken in xenial?
[20:14] <soee> BluesKaj: test some apps if they work fine
[20:14] <clivejo> typo in fonts
[20:14] <yofel> clivejo: is it?
[20:14] <clivejo> yeah
[20:14] <acheronuk> doubly broken now with that ppa
[20:15] <jimarvan> acheronuk: Cheers xD get some wine!
[20:15]  * acheronuk does just that
[20:16] <yofel> we might want to fix it anyway - for krita's sake
[20:16] <jimarvan> long live Krita!
[20:17] <jimarvan> 70% on install uff, tapping fingers here
[20:18] <BluesKaj> soee:  I don't have a lot of apps, no libreoffice or PIM 
[20:19] <soee> LO is not related here
[20:19] <clivejo> calligra-libs Recommends: fonst-lyx
[20:20] <clivejo> should be fonts-lyx
[20:20] <soee> lol :D
[20:21]  * clivejo hates waffley americans
[20:22] <BluesKaj> ,well, gotta go, Canada Day jam today at the garage/studio ...later gents, take care
[20:22] <clivejo> 48mins to explain something that should only take 5
[20:25]  * valorie protests -- waffles are a great breakfast!
[20:25] <jimarvan> :D
[20:25] <clivejo> :P
[20:25] <jimarvan> at least wales are winning :P
[20:28] <valorie> also, I used to make fantastic overnight yeast waffles with freshly-ground wheat flour
[20:28] <valorie> damn those were good
[20:28] <jimarvan> xD
[20:28] <jimarvan> you are evil! :P
[20:29] <yofel> now I want waffles -.-
[20:30] <valorie> rofl
[20:30] <clivejo> let go ahead and click it
[20:34] <clivejo> blah blah blah
[20:34] <clivejo> yap yap yap
[20:35] <clivejo> zzzzzzz
[20:38] <jimarvan> clive
[20:38] <jimarvan> installing updates now
[20:38] <jimarvan> kde apps :)
[20:38] <clivejo> jim!
[20:38] <jimarvan> 20%
[20:38] <jimarvan> 50%
[20:38] <jimarvan> and done
[20:38] <jimarvan> rebooting
[20:39] <clivejo> you're man
[20:39] <clivejo> mean
[20:39] <jimarvan> you have an app priority to test first?
[20:39] <jimarvan> like dolphin etc?
[20:39] <clivejo> nope
[20:40] <clivejo> just test them all
[20:40] <jimarvan> alright
[20:40] <jimarvan> my favorite is instant messaging, so i am going to test it first! :P
[20:42] <jimarvan> wales - belgium 3-1
[20:42] <yofel> wales is unstoppable, fun ^^
[20:42] <jimarvan> unbelievable
[20:42] <jimarvan> :D
[20:44] <jimtest> konversation works :P
[20:45] <jimarvan> oh oh
[20:45] <jimarvan> something crashed
[20:45] <jimarvan> ktp-contactlist
[20:46] <jimarvan> when i opened the Instant Messenger Contacts
[20:46] <clivejo> did you reboot?
[20:46] <jimarvan> but I think that happens also on original
[20:46] <jimarvan> hmm
[20:46] <jimarvan> i think so?
[20:46] <jimarvan> let me reboot again xD
[20:47] <jimarvan> and korgac
[20:47] <jimarvan> i think i rebooted
[20:47] <jimarvan> but i will doing it again to be sure
[20:47] <clivejo> korgac was crashing on me in 16.04.2
[20:48] <clivejo> but seems to be fixed in .3
[20:48] <jimarvan> ok
[20:49] <jimarvan> rebooted
[20:49] <jimarvan> i will reopen Instant Messenger Contacts and see
[20:49] <soee> jimarvan: instant messaging = ktp ?
[20:49] <jimarvan> It connects with my google account perfectly
[20:49] <jimarvan> IM Contacts
[20:50] <jimarvan> Instant messaging working like a charm
[20:50] <soee> Wales wn
[20:50] <jimarvan> :D
[20:50] <yofel> \o/
[20:50] <jimarvan> 3-1
[20:50] <jimarvan> who could believe it
[20:50] <jimarvan> clivejo: seems it does not crash anymore
[20:50] <jimarvan> let me close it and see 
[20:50] <jimarvan> no crash so far :>
[20:50] <soee> jimarvan: keep in mind that kde-telepathy id dead :D
[20:50] <jimarvan> i know i know
[20:51] <jimarvan> but we really need in my company instant messaging xD
[20:51] <jimarvan> so i love that little app
[20:51] <jimarvan> if I have to, I will reserve it :P
[20:51] <soee> ee Slack or Mattermost ? :D
[20:52] <jimarvan> what do you mean? x
[20:52] <jimarvan> Dolphin works fine
[20:52] <soee> for team commnication
[20:52] <soee> http://www.mattermost.org
[20:52] <jimarvan> aaah
[20:52] <jimarvan> never heard of it
[20:52] <jimarvan> we use google hangouts from chrome xD
[20:52] <jimarvan> *chromium with plugin
[20:53] <jimarvan> clivejo: everything seems working
[20:53] <jimarvan> congrats :)
[20:53] <jimarvan> even kontact and kmail
[20:53] <clivejo> Im glad
[20:54] <jimarvan> i see nothing obvious
[20:54] <jimarvan> i want to test the wi-fi somehow
[20:54] <jimarvan> I might actually install it physically on my laptop :>
[20:54] <soee> i am impressed hw god USB mode works for my mobile LTE internet
[20:54] <soee> *how good
[20:55] <soee> *USB modem
[20:56] <jimarvan> what I could do
[20:56] <jimarvan> is share the VM to you guys
[20:56] <jimarvan> to look around
[20:56] <jimarvan> through my broadband?
[20:56] <jimarvan> xD
[20:56] <jimarvan> let me see if i can make a VBox server
[20:56] <jimarvan> might become useful!
[21:02] <jimarvan> hmm
[21:08] <jimarvan> even open file in folder for firefox works!
[21:08] <jimarvan> wow...
[21:08] <jimarvan> was it fixed in 16.04 already?
[21:14] <jimarvan> clivejo: everything seems working fine
[21:14] <jimarvan> i will take a virtualbox snapshot of it :)
[21:14] <jimarvan> so if you want me to install anything else on this, and test it I can revert back and forth at any time
[21:15] <clivejo> :)
[21:15] <jimarvan> I have also installed teamviewer 11
[21:15] <jimarvan> so if you guys would love to look around feel free :)
[21:16] <jimarvan> hmm teamviewer has a hard time to launch, probably I need to increase RAM
[21:27] <ahoneybun> soee: if we are testing should it not be in backports yet?
[21:30] <ahoneybun> mm
[21:30] <acheronuk> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/akonadi/commit/debian/control?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=167d2accf958605d22b117bb41072bebe491ed28
[21:31] <acheronuk> +Breaks: kdepimlibs-data (<< 4:16.04), libakonadi-kde4
[21:31] <acheronuk> clivejo ^^^ libakonadi-kde4 breaks is part of prob with some stuff
[21:32] <yofel> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/akonadi/commit/debian/control?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=58759307bc750afc68c57ccca35adf2ec401dee8
[21:34] <jimarvan> guys have a look on this screnshot
[21:34] <jimarvan> https://s31.postimg.org/cc5dpif23/Screenshot_20160701_223322.png
[21:34] <jimarvan> have I done something wrong?
[21:35] <yofel> jimarvan: try dist-upgrade
[21:35] <jimarvan> ok
[21:36] <jimarvan> done
[21:36] <jimarvan> rebooting
[21:37] <jimarvan> omg...
[21:40] <acheronuk> omg?
[21:41] <jimtest> acheronuk: sorry xD
[21:42] <jimtest> well i did dist-upgrade but still some packages are kept back
[21:42] <jimtest> gwenview kde-config-mailtransport kdepimlibs-data kio-extras-data libkf5eventviews5
[21:42] <jimtest> etc...
[21:44] <jimarvan> I will come again tomorrow, have to go sleep for my karate session tomorrow morning
[21:44] <acheronuk> gwenview blocking it?
[21:44] <jimarvan> probably
[21:44] <jimarvan> there are some more packages
[21:44] <jimarvan> should I list them here?
[21:45] <acheronuk> can do if you like, but I'm not puzzling over it tonight
[21:45] <jimarvan> then I will not bother your heads for tonight :D
[21:45] <jimarvan> we have time to bump it tomorrow ;)
[21:46] <jimarvan> but for just logging purposes here they are:
[21:46] <jimarvan> gwenview kde-config-mailtransport kdepimlibs-data kio-extras-data libkf5eventviews5
[21:46] <jimarvan> libkf5followupreminder5 libkf5gravatar5 libkf5kdepimdbusinterfaces5 libkf5kdgantt2-5
[21:46] <jimarvan>  libkf5libkleo5 libkf5mailimporter5 libkf5mailtransport-data libkf5sendlater5
[21:46] <jimarvan>   libkf5templateparser5
[21:46] <jimarvan> these 14
[21:47] <jimarvan> gwenview is version 15.12.3
[21:47] <jimarvan> and it seems OK
[21:48] <jimarvan> good night all :D
[21:53] <acheronuk> zzzzzzz
[21:53] <acheronuk> as well
[21:53] <soee> ahoneybun: probably, but clivejo always prefere to test it in staging
[21:54] <ahoneybun> no I mean it should be in staging
[21:56] <clivejo> did you all get kicked out?
[21:57] <acheronuk> yup
[21:58] <clivejo> being naughty?
[21:59] <acheronuk> wasn't even in front of PC
[22:02] <acheronuk> apps updated fine on laptop, but same probs with some other things being not installable
[22:02] <acheronuk> with that, goodnight :)
[22:04] <clivejo> night night
[22:08] <valorie> ah, so it wasn't just me
[22:08] <valorie> bumpy ride on freenode
[22:23] <clivejo> valorie: dont you have a bouncer?
[22:25] <valorie> I do, but it briefly disconnected
[22:25] <valorie> my connection was steady on linuxchix and rootsweb though
[22:25] <valorie> so it was just freenode barfing
[23:23] <soee> http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2016/07/kde-applications-1608-schedule-finalized.html
[23:23] <soee> https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Applications/16.08_Release_Schedule
[23:26] <clivejo> anyone shed some light on the mpeg thumbs in dophin?
[23:26] <soee> hey dont work :D
[23:26] <clivejo> I know that!
[23:26] <clivejo> but why!
[23:27] <soee> uhm, clivejo https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=201484
[23:27] <soee> gram master versin of  ffmpegthumbs?
[23:28] <soee> !info ffmpegthumbs
[23:28] <soee> !info ffmpegthumbs xenial
[23:28] <clivejo> the 16.04.3 version should work
[23:30] <soee> !info kio-extras
[23:30] <soee> !info kio-extras xenial
[23:31] <clivejo> its installing /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so
[23:31] <soee> clivejo: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351894#c16
[23:33] <soee> so the problem is wrong path to plugins ?
[23:35] <clivejo> I dunno
[23:35] <clivejo> its installing where cmake told it to install
[23:35] <clivejo> have you tried "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/* /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/"
[23:36] <soee> clivejo: ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/ and it contains only ffmpegthumbs.so
[23:37] <soee> and this one ffmpegthumbs.so does not exists in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/
[23:37] <soee> and dolphin looks for it in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ ?
[23:38] <clivejo> !info ffmpegthumbs
[23:38] <clivejo> oh its in proposed
[23:39] <clivejo> 15.12.3 is installing it to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so
[23:40] <soee> and is it valid path?
[23:40] <clivejo> 16.04.3 is to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so
[23:40] <soee> 16.04.3 ?
[23:41] <clivejo> sorry 16.04.2
[23:41] <clivejo> the apps version we are working on
[23:42] <clivejo> and it is definitely there 
[23:42] <soee> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics-thumbnailers/+bug/1574049
[23:44] <soee> and the firt one mentioned in comment - ffmpegthumbs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpegthumbs/+bug/1574037
[23:45] <soee> so i assume somthing frm this reports affects us?
[23:46] <clivejo> I cant even see where the problem lies
[23:46] <clivejo> the file is being installed in the right place
[23:46] <clivejo> but dolphin wont use it
[23:47] <soee> i have now video thumbs after linking it properly
[23:47] <soee> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so
[23:48] <soee> do you have it:  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so  ?
[23:49] <clivejo> yes
[23:49] <soee> lol ?
[23:49] <soee> ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ | pastebinit
[23:49] <soee> i  must see it ;D
[23:52] <clivejo> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 47760 Jun 29 11:51 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so
[23:53] <soee> and preiews enabled in Dolphin ?
[23:53] <soee> *previews
[23:53] <clivejo> nope
[23:53] <soee> oO
[23:54] <clivejo> I dunno
[23:55] <clivejo> I cant see hows its a packaging issue