[00:06] an hour later and still not published [00:06] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+packages?field.name_filter=pimcommon&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= [00:07] really drives me insane [00:37] we do not release Alpha 1 right ? [03:32] lol i thought it is dead: Kaffeine 2.0.4 Released, Includes Major Improvements for Digital TV [03:33] clivejo: will you be able to package it ? [03:45] mm [03:46] soee_: why? [03:47] ahoneybun: why what ? [03:47] package it [03:47] to be abel to install it ? [03:48] but we have VLC and DragonPlayer [03:48] yes and this is argument whay we shoudln't use others ? :) [03:52] mm [03:55] soee_: we'll see [03:56] trying it for the hell of it [03:56] ;D [03:56] most likely will burn and crash [03:56] *crash and burn [03:56] * ahoneybun thinks soee_ should go to the Dojo [03:57] holly [03:57] crap [03:58] no way [03:58] :P [03:58] soee_: guess who is going to test this first [03:58] :{ [03:58] *:P [03:59] and crash laptop ? :D [03:59] it plays audio and video fine [03:59] only have mp3 and mp4 [03:59] it built with no errors [04:00] nice [04:00] let me get it on LP [04:00] let's see if LP works with me too [04:01] +1 [04:01] mm where is the files to updload to LP [04:01] *upload [04:01] oh [04:04] I'm going to have to get the changelog, deps and such fixed [04:04] LP is going to yell other wise [04:04] this is black magic for me atm. :) [04:04] "atm" [04:05] and hope my key works [04:05] building for xenial or yakkety ? [04:05] well I'm on xenial [04:05] this package has not gotten update since Apr 2014 [04:06] in Ubuntu archive anyway [04:06] yeah, that is why i thought it was dead [04:11] they have not updated the changelog from github anyway [04:14] mm debuild is yelling at me [04:19] mm [04:19] http://blog.packagecloud.io/debian/debuild/packaging/2015/06/08/buildling-deb-packages-with-debuild/ [04:19] placeholder for Rick [04:24] something about not finding kde.pm [04:26] and what is it ? [04:26] !info dke.pm [04:26] Package dke.pm does not exist in yakkety [04:27] !info kde.pm [04:27] Package kde.pm does not exist in yakkety [04:27] not sure [04:27] https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/pkg-kde-tools/filelist [04:27] I know dh_autoreconf is for autoreconf.pm [04:27] and quilt [04:27] /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Buildsystem/kde.pm [04:27] mm [04:28] ohhh [04:29] mm still [04:29] I think there was a version it has in it [04:31] same odd [04:31] http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/pkg-kde-tools/filelist [04:33] it is saying aabout Perl [04:33] but it looks like pkg-kde-tools pulls that [04:33] what error ? [04:33] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/18211109/ [04:36] mm it is doing this: /usr/local/share/perl/ [04:37] but pkg-kde-tools has: /usr/local/share/perl5/ [04:37] not sure if that is it [04:38] !info pkg-kde-tools xenial [04:38] pkg-kde-tools (source: pkg-kde-tools): various packaging tools and scripts for KDE Applications. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15.20~ubuntu4 (xenial), package size 89 kB, installed size 427 kB [04:39] !info pkg-kde-tools [04:39] pkg-kde-tools (source: pkg-kde-tools): various packaging tools and scripts for KDE Applications. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15.21~ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 90 kB, installed size 434 kB [04:39] pkg-kde-tools (>= 0.14) [04:39] is how I wrote it [04:39] but pkg-kde-tools did the same [04:40] !info libxine2 [04:40] libxine2 (source: xine-lib-1.2): xine media player library – meta-package. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-1.1build1 (yakkety), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB [04:40] !info libxine2 xenial [04:40] libxine2 (source: xine-lib-1.2): xine media player library – meta-package. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-1build5 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB [04:41] no clue [04:42] we have to wait for some more experenced packager :-) [04:42] so close too [04:45] seems apachelogger had the same error [04:45] 5 years ago XD [04:50] XD [04:50] :D [04:51] I was missing pkg-kde-tools [04:51] oO [04:51] now a new error [04:51] not sure how [04:51] what error ? [04:52] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/18211500/ [04:52] seems to be about quilt [04:52] I did install that [04:53] but it cant findsource with proper format [04:53] yea seems that way [04:53] one level above you shoudl have ../kaffeine_2.0.4ubuntu1.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz} [04:53] not sure how to get those [04:53] I remember debuild made them [04:53] I might be missing a few things, a bit rusty [04:54] isnt ths the source provided by devs ? [04:54] not in a tar [04:54] I got this from github [04:56] ahoneybun: https://linuxtv.org/downloads/kaffeine/ [04:56] grab one ? [04:56] got it now [04:56] also found a decent changelog [04:59] yay patches [04:59] :P [05:00] not even sure if that one is needed anymore [05:03] I removed it [05:06] also change quilt to native and got around that error [05:07] now I need my secret key [05:10] soee: still with me lol [05:10] woot woot ? [05:10] not yet [05:10] just got my key from the laptiop [05:14] and it's on Lp [05:14] *LP [05:14] let's see some fireworks! [05:14] :) [05:15] 317 updates on the laptop lol [05:15] soee: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-packages/+build/10197151 [05:15] not sure if you can watch it or now [05:15] *not [05:15] yup [05:16] watch it crash and burn XD [05:18] yep [05:18] :D [05:18] burned [05:19] mm seems to be somethings that are not anywhere [05:19] old oxygen icons [05:19] rolf [05:19] rolf? [05:19] rofl [05:19] not sure what that means [05:20] rofl = Rolling On Floor Laughing [05:20] mm might know the fix [05:22] mm [05:22] well I know what file is telling it to do that [05:25] let's try this again soee [05:25] +1 [05:26] damn [05:26] I have to wait 30mins [05:26] to start the build [05:27] nvm [05:27] why ? LP blocks you [05:27] ? [05:27] XD [05:27] now it says 4 [05:27] weird [05:27] 1 [05:27] mgraesslin: ? [05:28] is that the KWin guy or Wayland [05:28] mm now 2mins [05:28] so weird [05:28] ahoneybun: I just connected, if you want to ask me something, I might miss context [05:28] no no my bad [05:28] I meant o/ [05:28] XD [05:29] soee: building [05:29] mgraesslin: I saw you at Akademy last year [05:29] saw/met [05:30] yes [05:30] I was with the weird guy interviewing you lol [05:30] yes I remember you ;-) [05:30] oh awesome! [05:31] ;) [05:31] * ahoneybun wonders if soee pased out [05:31] me ? :D [05:31] we are starting work day now here in Poland :) [05:31] oh it's 1:30am here XD [05:32] mgraesslin: I want to say you work on KWin [05:32] I could be wrong [05:32] no, that's correct - I'm working on KWin right now [05:32] I knew it was something cool KWin =/ any WM [05:33] in the good way [05:34] soee: if this fails I might go to sleep [05:34] 75% sure [05:34] damn [05:34] hihi :) [05:35] I removed those [05:40] soee: night [05:40] someone else will have to help me [07:43] hi ho === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [08:23] good morning kubuntu! :) [08:26] ahoneybun: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/kaffeine.git/log/ [08:31] OMG [08:31] acheronuk: I LOVE YOU [08:32] it works with my 10 year old mpeg1 TV tuner in my laptop! [08:32] :D :D :D [08:42] lol. great :) [08:44] clivejo: no libkf5grantleetheme in XX apps staging is roadblocking much of what hasn't built yet, yes? [08:45] true, kaffeine is the only working TV Tuner application that I know of. Nice to see that it's still alive :) [09:29] * clivejo wonders who the weird guy with Aaron was [09:29] did he have a chicken head? [09:41] clivejo: where did you see that? [09:42] where did I see chicken head? [09:42] have seen photos of it [09:48] xD [09:48] I miss that cricket :( [09:49] ahoneybun: I want that cricket back on the show! :P [11:51] Howdy all [11:52] BluesKaj: hey :) [11:52] hi jimarvan [11:57] just received an email about yakkety alpha1 bring released, hope the crashy ubiquity installer has been fixed [11:57] should work now with the slideshow gone [11:59] what was the slideshow exactly? [12:00] the slides it shows you while it is installing (after you finished all configuration steps) [12:01] I had issues to install yakkete on virtualbox [12:02] but I will try later on at home, probably it is my old laptop [12:02] so unnessary semi ads about kubuntu assets [12:02] well I like them xD [12:03] the're fine if they don't crash the installer [12:03] they're [12:05] ;) [12:06] Has anyone ran the live yakkete on Virtualbox? [12:06] and got a black screen at the end? [12:06] *run [12:08] wouldn't really suprise me. We've had various session startup issues since 16.04, and nobody looked at those in depth so far [12:11] <-- [12:11] I am that guy :D [12:11] jimarvan: Live session was fine in virtualbox here yesterday [12:11] ok so it is my poor old laptop [12:12] apart from plasma being 5.5.5 :( that is [12:12] might also be a bit random (or version / driver ? dependent) as I had it work and fail in VBox [12:13] hmm I am boosting RAM from 2 GB to 3 GB (out of 4) [12:13] right now just to check [12:13] just zysncing the iso, then I will try [12:13] I hate that Vbox suggests 718Mb RAM and 8 GB disk space :( [12:14] They should increase those recommendations a little... [12:14] right... [12:14] made it! [12:14] yeap it was low ram issue [12:14] WORKS [12:15] * jimarvan loves that desktop folder little hidden install icon xD [12:15] OK, here. 2GB of RAM allocated [12:15] lol. ignore the VB suggested defaults [12:16] ;) [12:16] I think we "officially" require 1024? [12:16] yeap 1024 runs [12:16] i had the absolute defaults... :( sorry [12:17] well, still better than kvm which defaults to 256 IIRC? ^^ [12:17] the VBox default for *buntu are 768, which is silly [12:17] indeed [12:17] and a lot of new starting people that want to try [12:17] well, ubuntu requires 512 according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements [12:17] but sounds plausible enough that you can be fooled [12:17] they come back and say "it does not work" [12:18] I wonder if we should be on that page.. [12:18] I tried to install Kubuntu Xenial on a KVM VM a while back with 1024 but it kept crashing due to OOM. It worked fine after I bumped it to 2048. [12:18] not until that 512 figure doubles yofel xD [12:19] well, they talk about Lubuntu further down [12:19] yofel: yes we/you should, kubuntu is not a minor derivative [12:19] OTOH, telling people that we eat memory is probably not that great of an idea [12:19] OTOH #2: I blame mysql [12:19] letting them find out later on is worse IMHO [12:21] mysqld memory issue you mean? [12:21] wasn't that fixed? [12:21] no [12:21] ah ok [12:22] https://s32.postimg.org/gdswelfp1/Screenshot_20160701_131958.png [12:22] :D [12:23] on a 2006 laptop, I just cant believe it [12:23] thanks for reminding me that I need to do that folderview SRU [12:24] ;) [12:33] /me tried to package kaffenine [12:37] kaffenine still around ? [12:38] or kafrine eveb [12:38] oops , need more light , kaffeine [12:49] Kaffeine rocks hehe [12:52] mpv is my fav movie player now, after finding a config file for the audio settings enabling DD and DTS outputs thru the spdif [12:52] it's video handling is smoother and cleaner than VLC as well [13:03] hmm i will give it a try [13:11] smplayer using the mpv backend works very well here [13:16] ahoneybun: https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/10198747 [13:17] the mplayer front ends kmplayer and smplayer never quite cut it with the digital audio out options IME, this pc is our HTPC connected to an audio receiver and TV [13:19] acheronuk: can you see why this is FTBFS - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/270141460/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kdesdk-kioslaves_4%3A16.04.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz [13:20] clivejo: it's been broken compiling against libsvn 1.9 for ages. [13:21] do you know what the status is? [13:21] package is not even in xenial (was left out?) and I guess that was why? [13:21] debian git have fixed by disabling the svn part/sub-package [13:22] would you do me a fix? [13:22] if you have time [13:23] Don't know what the official status is, but I would guess no one cares enough to fix the svn part [13:23] better to follow debian lead [13:23] clivejo: not before this evening, if that's ok? [13:23] I think once thats sorted apps are almost ready to go [13:23] yeah no hurry [13:23] has PIM finally built? [13:24] in XX [13:24] yeah and 16.04.3 fixes my korganiser crash! [13:24] * clivejo is very happy [13:24] great. had the ppa enabled, but was wanting to remove the PIM stuff [13:24] if PIM built, that should be sorted [13:25] oh xenial hasnt totally built yet [13:25] libgrantlee took forever to publish [13:25] and Im poking it on, but publisher is soooooo slow [13:25] LP slow as ever... sigh [13:26] :( [13:26] I use akregator a lot, so need it NOT to remove that on a dist-upgrade [13:26] me too [13:27] but when I opened kontact it was crashing due to korganiser [13:27] but the entire suite seems stable on Yakkety [13:28] hopefully the same on xenial then :) [13:29] if mailcommon ever publishs! [13:29] * clivejo spits grape seeds at LP [13:31] hmm... from yesterday http://i.imgur.com/GgAfebW.png === pavlushka is now known as zaki [13:54] Did anybody test that the daily images install without the slideshow? === zaki is now known as Guest92541 [13:55] did on a manual remove the other day, and let it go as far as the file copy stage on a test earlier [13:55] does it still fail? [13:56] I was willing to test if nobody else has. [13:56] try it. I can only do so in virtualbox ATM [13:58] guys, test installing on mine VBox right now [13:59] (the one with 1GB RAM) [14:04] Thanks. I will pass as (1) I can only do in a VM myself, and (2) it looks as if jimarvan is ahead of me. [14:04] no worries will tell you in a few mins [14:04] I feel like a failure now [14:04] why? :( [14:04] .. [14:05] I tried 2times to get that built [14:11] acheronuk: second time https://launchpadlibrarian.net/270077284/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kaffeine_2.0.4ubuntu1-ppa2_BUILDING.txt.gz [14:12] Only 2 times? [14:12] That's not failure [14:12] yea it was 1:30am at that point [14:14] so I went to sleep [14:14] 2 times is definitely not a failure :D [14:14] not enought? [14:15] *enough [14:15] * yofel remembers genuine kde-workspace ~ppa14 numbers or so [14:15] that was a fun thing [14:15] well for something like kaffeine [14:16] FWIW, missing files can take a couple repetitions. I would rather recommend building in a chroot where you have the build result so you can run dpkg-buildpackage -nc after fixing something [14:16] mm [14:17] I removed the lines in kaffeine that were doing that I thought [14:17] kaffeine.install [14:17] is it the same error as before? [14:17] yep [14:19] surprised I got the key signing to work lol [14:20] well, they're still there [14:20] yea I know [14:20] is that a native package o.O? [14:20] mm? [14:21] FWIW, you might want to base 2.0.4 on the debian 2.0.3 version [14:23] oh I grabbed the version we had [14:23] which was a bad idea now [14:47] Sorry for the delay I did the mistake to install 3rd party packages [14:47] almost done with the Yaketee installation [14:47] 91% so far all seem ok [14:48] damn [14:48] should it reboot at 93%???? [14:48] without warning? [14:48] Pretty sure no [14:49] well it didn't actually reboot, it closed the installation and asked me to press enter after i remove media [14:49] INSTALLED :) [14:49] and up and running [14:49] congratulations [14:49] Oh nice [14:49] * jimarvan cheers [14:50] marco-parillo: clivejo: installation succesfully completed! :) [14:50] well done [14:50] Well done. Always nice to have a stop-ship bug resolved. [14:50] I will have a look on the installer [14:50] and see what I can do [14:50] :> [14:51] Have in mind, the installer could not launch on VBox with 1GB ram, I had to up it to 2 GB to actually launch [14:56] On my netbook with 1GB, I used to get low on memory warnings when the Kubuntu installer went to Plasma 5, so I guess that was coming. [15:12] ahoneybun yofel: I cheated and pinched the debian packaging that had only been updated 2 hrs previously [15:13] XD [15:13] even then, it's slight luck it built 1st time! [15:13] even though I did test in pbuilder 1st [15:23] hey, where should one report packaging issues in kubuntu? [15:24] hmm [15:24] I've just been pointed out that khangman lacks a qml-module-qtgraphicaleffects dependency [15:25] apol: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khangman [15:25] open a bug on LP for it [15:25] what release is the bug in? [15:27] Hi Rick_Timmis [15:28] did you get in trouble last night? [15:34] clivejo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khangman/+bug/1598213 [15:34] Launchpad bug 1598213 in khangman (Ubuntu) "khangman has a runtime dependency on qml-module-qtgraphicaleffects" [Undecided,New] [15:34] clivejo: 16.04, AFAIK [15:36] just installed KHangman on Yakkety, seems to be working [15:36] what happens when you run it? [15:48] PIM building on XX at last! [15:56] :D [15:56] is that the personal instant messenger, right? [15:56] no [15:56] Personal Information Manager [15:57] basically the suite making up Kontact [16:02] see ya peeps! :D [16:14] yofel: what do you think? http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/forks/drumstick.git/ [16:21] clivejo: If I merge in debian's packaging for kdesdk-kioslaves, which is 4:16.04.0-1, would that then need ubuntu one changing from 4:16.04.2-0ubuntu1 to 4:16.04.2-1ubuntu1 ? [16:46] brr [16:46] ahoneybun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev8Zltau4zw [16:49] yofel: ping [17:06] !info smartmontools xenial [17:06] smartmontools (source: smartmontools): control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 6.4+svn4214-1 (xenial), package size 425 kB, installed size 1462 kB [17:12] yofel clivejo: taking debian changes as read, and that the debian revision would bump, this is what it would give me for kubuntu_yakkety_archive [17:12] http://paste.ubuntu.com/18250016/ [17:16] clivejo: context? [17:16] soee: hm? [17:16] yofel: if Aaron fix the kaffeine packaging, can we push it into archive ? [17:17] I fixed nothing [17:17] soee: yakkety already has 2.0.3, or do you really need 2.0.4? [17:17] Rik did that [17:17] the latest [17:17] ahoneybun: oh? [17:17] acheronuk: looks fine [17:17] wha about xenial ? [17:18] yep [17:18] yofel: I'll do a merge proposal then [17:18] in his ppa soewhere ? [17:19] yea [17:19] https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/10198747 [17:19] ahoneybun soee: I just pinched the latest debian packaging [17:19] yea I went from the newest in Ubuntu archive [17:19] bad move [17:19] :) [17:19] only had to update the changelog [17:20] installed fine - Ricks package [17:21] * yofel gives up and installs plasma 5.6 [17:21] ;o [17:22] kaffiene built against a newer version of VLC in my ppa than the one in my archive. forgot I had that. but don't think it's critical [17:22] have not tested app more than trivially though [17:26] hmm... kaffeine is not very smooth compared to mpv [17:29] I haven't used Kaffeine since the KDE3 days! [17:29] same here I think [17:32] i liked it a lot and i still do :) [17:35] I used it until KDE4 came out, then I switched to Xine for a while, then to (s)mplayer, then to Xine, and these days I find myself using Kodi quite a bit. [17:35] Oh, and VLC. [17:35] still like smplayer, which is now QT5 [17:35] guys does anyone know what happened with amarok? [17:35] i always like the name: kaffeine :D [17:35] is it abandoned? [17:35] I use smplayer for playing DVDs when I don't want Kodi, since VLC plays DVDs with lots of judder for some reason. [17:36] I don;t think so [17:36] valorie: amarok status.? [17:38] not a lot of work going on https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=amarok.git [17:38] thanks acheronuk as i thought :( [17:39] I really liked Amarok with KDE3 but the KDE4 version never really made me happy. :/ [17:39] that's another one I used to use all the time with KDE 3, but 4 somewhat ruined it [17:39] mamarley: snap! [17:40] far from perfect, but clementine does most of what I want now [17:41] * mamarley uses VLC for that. [17:43] * jimarvan same VLC addict here :) [17:44] * mamarley just wishes VLC would start playing DVDs smoothly again, then he could ditch (s)mplayer entirely. [17:44] :D [17:45] btw. like a year agoor more there were ome posts about Dragon Player 3 i think [17:45] It is really odd though, because it only happens with DVDs. Blurays (which are significantly more resource-intensive) play just fine. [17:45] the idea died ? [17:46] mamarley: mpv works well now , VLC is still a good player , but mpv seems better on difficult videos [17:46] BluesKaj: I have tried MPV, but it has one critical issue for my setup: It doesn't support streaming video over SMB. [17:49] mamarley: if I use a file manager like thunar with gvfsd-smb support to open the video with smplayer over smb, it then works and streams for me [17:50] I don't want to stop using Dolphin though. [17:50] fair enough [17:51] I have a setup that works pretty well though. Kodi for DVDs and anything recorded using TVHeadend, VLC when I don' [17:51] clivejo: only kdesdk-kioslaves fails in Xenial now ? (except minuet) [17:51] t want to mouse through Kodi's interface, and smplayer with mplayer if I want to play a DVD without Kodi. [17:52] kodi useful for internet tv, otherwise it's kind of clunky IMO [17:53] BluesKaj: With a mouse, sure, but if you have an IR remote and a computer attached to a TV, it works really well. It is also the only video player I have found that can display closed captioning/subtitles from ATSC transport streams. [17:55] I just keep media in their respective Music etc folders on the outboard and put in them "places" on dolphin, and yes I use a wireless KB and mouse and this pc is a HTPC connected to an audio receiver and tv ...I just need a remote to change the sources on the tv [18:03] clivejo: something not right with xenial apps http://paste.ubuntu.com/18254270/ [18:04] and http://paste.ubuntu.com/18254372/ [18:07] any idea what the problem is [18:12] what version of libkf5akonadicore5 does it want to install? [18:12] if I do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/18254967/ it then works for the upgrade, but lose the packages listed there [18:13] 4:16.04.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 for libakonadicore [18:14] can you try installing that on its own [18:15] hmmm. done the upgrade now [18:19] so of any consequence, forcing things a bit I lost.... [18:20] oh.. wait [18:20] * clivejo waits [18:26] lol. kgpg is the only thing as far as I can see. [18:27] some of the 4.xxx stuff no longer installs, but you expect that I suppose [18:27] presumably needs some replaces/breaks so make upgrade work, rather than having to fudge/force it like I just did? [18:29] kgpg is still kde4, so not usre if that can work [18:29] *sure [18:32] yofel: what do you think about my suggestion to disable drivers manager kcm till it is fixed ? [18:32] I suppose jumping from apps 15.12.3 to 16.04.2 is bound to have fallout [18:33] acheronuk: only spotted this now [18:33] kdesdk-kioslaves (4:16.04.2-1ubuntu1) [18:33] the -1 is the debian version [18:34] Debian have 16.04.0 [18:34] but they dont have 16.04.2 [18:35] yet [18:35] therefore our should be 4:16.04.2-0ubuntu1 [18:35] ah. I just misread their version number [18:36] no problem, took me ages to understand version numbers [18:36] otherwise I would have left ti [18:36] had yofel's head turned [18:36] didn't misunderstand, just misread [18:39] clivejo: kgpg is not installable on YY either [18:40] anyone else able to do a test install of apps 16.04.2 on senial [18:40] whats the message? [18:40] clivejo: yes i can test [18:41] soee: remember its staging, it could kill your kitten [18:41] http://i.imgur.com/cTZX8nC.png [18:41] eak [18:41] same as xenial with the apps staging ppa [18:42] * acheronuk admits he uses seahorse [18:44] acheronuk: what version is it trying to install? [18:44] :) [18:45] Candidate: 4:16.04.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 [18:45] from apt-cache policy [18:46] so presumably that? [18:49] CMakeLists for 16.04.2 shows it's still kde4, despite that version number [18:55] clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18258369/ [18:56] so a lot of pim related stuff tobe removed [18:57] in a xenial VM I get a cleaner upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/18258458/ [18:57] soee: looks ok [18:57] so was just me having some kde4 stuff installed that c***ped it out! [18:58] acheronuk: do you think we should merge with debian in regards kgpg? [18:58] I have not looked at the differences [19:02] clivejo: ok, upgrading [19:04] you want to try it? [19:05] I'm just building in pbuilder with the debian packaging. See if that is installable [19:05] ah good idea [19:07] still get cannot install libakonadi-contact4 etc [19:08] wonder why its looking for that! [19:09] cant we grep 16.04 fiels and see wht requires it ? [19:09] maybe you can import keys for your contacts in akonadi? [19:09] !info kdelibs5-dev [19:09] kdelibs5-dev (source: kde4libs): development files for the KDE Development Platform libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.14.16-0ubuntu4 (yakkety), package size 1303 kB, installed size 9465 kB [19:09] ah, thats an old PIM dev [19:09] try removing that [19:09] yep [19:09] !info kdepimlibs5-dev [19:09] kdepimlibs5-dev (source: kde4pimlibs): development files for the KDE Development Platform PIM libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.14.10-1ubuntu3 (yakkety), package size 481 kB, installed size 4349 kB [19:10] another old one [19:10] wonder what the new one is [19:10] remove them both and see what cmake is looking for [19:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/18259813/ [19:13] clivejo: ping [19:14] so http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?mode=filename&suite=xenial§ion=all&arch=any&keywords=KdepimLibsConfig&searchon=contents [19:14] soee-dev_: whats up? [19:14] clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18259866/ [19:15] clivejo: so from what i see all looks prerry good [19:15] reboot now [19:15] soee-dev_: looks ok [19:15] so it only really has probs with the kde4 leftovers [19:15] can you test the applications# [19:16] which ones? [19:16] all of them [19:16] roger [19:16] so kgpg needs kdepimlibs5-dev :( [19:19] ohh! akregator got back feed icon support :) [19:22] acheronuk: in the rules files can you bump include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/debian-qt-kde.mk to version 3 [19:22] try a rebuild [19:24] trying with that and the depends back [19:24] keep the depends out [19:24] they look too old [19:25] cmake will fail if not [19:25] yeah [19:25] I want it to [19:25] clivejo: ok, apps looks prerry goofd [19:26] version 3 is KF5, Im wondering if we are building version 4 by mistake [19:28] there is no kf5 in that cmakelist [19:28] so it just fails as before [19:28] so the debian packaging is failing too? [19:29] yes [19:29] I dunno then :/ [19:29] or, it builds, but is not installable [19:30] not on xenial with the apps ppa, anyway [19:31] installable on yakkety? [19:31] not with apps staging enabled [19:31] Ive just pinged maxy about it [19:32] if you adjust some depends/breaks etc on other packages, it might get there [19:32] but not sure what tonight [19:37] wow busy night :o [19:38] soee: still with us? [19:38] aye [19:38] how goes the testing? [19:38] clivejo: i installed it fine, tested (run few apps) and all smees fine [19:39] but we need more testers when it comes to apps [19:39] just returned from sainburys [19:39] right. just off to enable staging on my laptop [19:39] downloading latest iso and starting testing [19:39] i think Plama and Frameworks are always easier than apps to package and test [19:39] jimarvan: xenial apps ? [19:40] soee: which apps you need testing? \ [19:40] jimarvan: 16.04.2 on Xenial [19:40] understood [19:40] from staging apps ppa [19:41] ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma? [19:41] confirm? [19:41] no [19:41] sorry :( [19:42] which one? [19:42] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications [19:42] got it [19:42] ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-kdeapplications [19:42] i will install the VBox right away and start [19:42] mamarley: are you aple to test them ? [19:42] *able [19:42] ofc [19:43] i have an SSD drive shouldn't take long to set it up [19:43] ;) [19:43] :> [19:43] soee: 16.04.2 on Xenial? Not at the moment, but later today I can install them on a VM> [19:43] * acheronuk wants SSD [19:43] mamarley: woudl be cool, thanks [19:43] acheronuk: what size? [19:43] * jimarvan 120 Gb? [19:44] 2-300 for pref [19:44] ah ok [19:44] because the small ones now are VERY cheap [19:44] i have 120 GB on both laptop and PC :) [19:44] true [19:44] 39-50 pounds for under 100Gb [19:44] pro-brexit xD [19:44] anyway enough chit chat [19:44] going virtual mode :P [19:45] talking about SSDs, someone buy me a 2TB one :P [19:45] was looking at https://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-Ultra-Sata-2-5-inch-Internal/dp/B00M8ABCZM [19:45] what are you going to do with 2TB? fill it with pron? :P [19:45] but not sure if any good [19:45] only partly ;P [19:45] acheronuk: in my company they are insane with chromebooks [19:46] I convinced the boss to stop wasting his money on crap and let me upgrade all old laptops with small SSDs and install kubuntu 16.04 [19:46] preparing 12 laptops for next week ;) [19:46] XD [19:46] people LOVE KUBUNTU [19:46] yes! [19:46] i will send you an e-mail from a home manager to see how much they love it [19:46] but yet again [19:46] * soee wonders if yofel saw the question before .. [19:47] let me do this *virtual mode engaged* [19:47] saw it [19:47] can't make up my mind [19:47] hands up who uses kgpg? [19:47] for kmail? [19:47] that thing is kind of important, esp. on e.g. virtualbox (ok, we have gcc on the image now, so the guest additions should work..) [19:47] i'm not sure how hard it is to disbale it but we have smething broken there that migh confuse users [19:47] but yeah, it's somewhat broken :/ [19:48] :/ [19:48] kmail uses kgpg? [19:48] hope not! [19:48] * yofel uses kgpg on occasion - like twice a year [19:49] it's kde4 and is uninstallable with apps-staging as it stands [19:50] OMG STOP RAINING ALREADY :((( [19:50] i wanted to go to the beach tomorrow fml [19:55] question [19:55] should I avoid install updates? [19:55] huh? [19:56] i mean on the install screen [19:56] well installation will be faster but in the end you will have to install them after reboot :D [19:56] * jimarvan facepalms [19:57] ok then [19:57] IIRC that only makes ubiquity download them in advance, so you can install them after install [19:57] +1 [19:57] i always wait til the OS is done installing, just incase [19:58] gotcha [19:58] 5 mins left to download the xenial iso [19:58] BluesKaj: you have some machine with Xenial ? [19:58] yeah, my laptop [19:58] wanna test apps 16.04 ? [19:59] already added that above ppa to my Yakkety install, all is well so far [20:00] yes but testing for Xenial is pretty important [20:00] hm [20:00] The following packages will be REMOVED: [20:00] accountwizard akonadi-server akregator kaddressbook kdepim-runtime kmail knotes kontact korganizer libkf5incidenceeditorsng5 libkf5kipi30.0.0 libkf5noteshared5 [20:00] that's too much [20:00] YES [20:00] lol do it! [20:00] xD [20:00] just a chroot anyway [20:00] yofel: on Xenial ? [20:00] yofel: that's what I had earlier [20:00] soee: yes [20:01] can be worked around, but not for kgpg [20:01] chroot was set up with: apt install --install-recommends kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-full digikam kdevelop calligra [20:02] hmmm... so maybe somthign else there [20:02] uhmm something related to diigikam -> kipi ? [20:02] I'm more worried about PIM [20:02] let me read the debug output [20:04] what happens with a 'apt-get install akregator kmail akonadi-server' ? [20:05] doing that removed some old kde4 stuff for me, and allowed a cleanish upgrade [20:06] well, aptitude says akonadi-server : Breaks: libakonadi-kde4 but 4:4.14.10-1ubuntu2 is installed. [20:06] and that wants to completely remove calligra now [20:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/18254967/ [20:07] apt just gets to a different conclusion [20:07] but I don't have calligra [20:07] yeah, that's about what aptitude gives me [20:08] soee: installing packages with staging-kdeapplications now on xenial...ok done , rebooting [20:08] :D [20:09] 50% on installing myself [20:09] calligra-libs : Depends: libakonadi-kde4 (>= 4:4.5.86) but it is not going to be installed [20:09] apt just gets to a different conclusion [20:09] o.O [20:09] lag [20:11] too much breakage on kde4 based stuff :( [20:12] I guess uploading a calligra build without akonadi support would do the job [20:12] what does it use that for anyway.. [20:13] I'm going to go find a glass of wine and come back to this tomorrow :) [20:13] :) [20:13] soee. looks good, anything troublesome to lookout for ? [20:13] yofel: so the calligra is the faulty package ? [20:14] isnt calligra broken in xenial? [20:14] BluesKaj: test some apps if they work fine [20:14] typo in fonts [20:14] clivejo: is it? [20:14] yeah [20:14] doubly broken now with that ppa [20:15] acheronuk: Cheers xD get some wine! [20:15] * acheronuk does just that [20:16] we might want to fix it anyway - for krita's sake [20:16] long live Krita! [20:17] 70% on install uff, tapping fingers here [20:18] soee: I don't have a lot of apps, no libreoffice or PIM [20:19] LO is not related here [20:19] calligra-libs Recommends: fonst-lyx [20:20] should be fonts-lyx [20:20] lol :D [20:21] * clivejo hates waffley americans [20:22] ,well, gotta go, Canada Day jam today at the garage/studio ...later gents, take care [20:22] 48mins to explain something that should only take 5 [20:25] * valorie protests -- waffles are a great breakfast! [20:25] :D [20:25] :P [20:25] at least wales are winning :P [20:28] also, I used to make fantastic overnight yeast waffles with freshly-ground wheat flour [20:28] damn those were good [20:28] xD [20:28] you are evil! :P [20:29] now I want waffles -.- [20:30] rofl [20:30] let go ahead and click it [20:34] blah blah blah [20:34] yap yap yap [20:35] zzzzzzz [20:38] clive [20:38] installing updates now [20:38] kde apps :) [20:38] jim! [20:38] 20% [20:38] 50% [20:38] and done [20:38] rebooting [20:39] you're man [20:39] mean [20:39] you have an app priority to test first? [20:39] like dolphin etc? [20:39] nope [20:40] just test them all [20:40] alright [20:40] my favorite is instant messaging, so i am going to test it first! :P [20:42] wales - belgium 3-1 [20:42] wales is unstoppable, fun ^^ [20:42] unbelievable [20:42] :D [20:44] konversation works :P [20:45] oh oh [20:45] something crashed [20:45] ktp-contactlist [20:46] when i opened the Instant Messenger Contacts [20:46] did you reboot? [20:46] but I think that happens also on original [20:46] hmm [20:46] i think so? [20:46] let me reboot again xD [20:47] and korgac [20:47] i think i rebooted [20:47] but i will doing it again to be sure [20:47] korgac was crashing on me in 16.04.2 [20:48] but seems to be fixed in .3 [20:48] ok [20:49] rebooted [20:49] i will reopen Instant Messenger Contacts and see [20:49] jimarvan: instant messaging = ktp ? [20:49] It connects with my google account perfectly [20:49] IM Contacts [20:50] Instant messaging working like a charm [20:50] Wales wn [20:50] :D [20:50] \o/ [20:50] 3-1 [20:50] who could believe it [20:50] clivejo: seems it does not crash anymore [20:50] let me close it and see [20:50] no crash so far :> [20:50] jimarvan: keep in mind that kde-telepathy id dead :D [20:50] i know i know [20:51] but we really need in my company instant messaging xD [20:51] so i love that little app [20:51] if I have to, I will reserve it :P [20:51] ee Slack or Mattermost ? :D [20:52] what do you mean? x [20:52] Dolphin works fine [20:52] for team commnication [20:52] http://www.mattermost.org [20:52] aaah [20:52] never heard of it [20:52] we use google hangouts from chrome xD [20:52] *chromium with plugin [20:53] clivejo: everything seems working [20:53] congrats :) [20:53] even kontact and kmail [20:53] Im glad [20:54] i see nothing obvious [20:54] i want to test the wi-fi somehow [20:54] I might actually install it physically on my laptop :> [20:54] i am impressed hw god USB mode works for my mobile LTE internet [20:54] *how good [20:55] *USB modem [20:56] what I could do [20:56] is share the VM to you guys [20:56] to look around [20:56] through my broadband? [20:56] xD [20:56] let me see if i can make a VBox server [20:56] might become useful! [21:02] hmm [21:08] even open file in folder for firefox works! [21:08] wow... [21:08] was it fixed in 16.04 already? [21:14] clivejo: everything seems working fine [21:14] i will take a virtualbox snapshot of it :) [21:14] so if you want me to install anything else on this, and test it I can revert back and forth at any time [21:15] :) [21:15] I have also installed teamviewer 11 [21:15] so if you guys would love to look around feel free :) [21:16] hmm teamviewer has a hard time to launch, probably I need to increase RAM [21:27] soee: if we are testing should it not be in backports yet? [21:30] mm [21:30] https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/akonadi/commit/debian/control?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=167d2accf958605d22b117bb41072bebe491ed28 [21:31] +Breaks: kdepimlibs-data (<< 4:16.04), libakonadi-kde4 [21:31] clivejo ^^^ libakonadi-kde4 breaks is part of prob with some stuff [21:32] https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/akonadi/commit/debian/control?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=58759307bc750afc68c57ccca35adf2ec401dee8 [21:34] guys have a look on this screnshot [21:34] https://s31.postimg.org/cc5dpif23/Screenshot_20160701_223322.png [21:34] have I done something wrong? [21:35] jimarvan: try dist-upgrade [21:35] ok [21:36] done [21:36] rebooting [21:37] omg... [21:40] omg? [21:41] acheronuk: sorry xD [21:42] well i did dist-upgrade but still some packages are kept back [21:42] gwenview kde-config-mailtransport kdepimlibs-data kio-extras-data libkf5eventviews5 [21:42] etc... [21:44] I will come again tomorrow, have to go sleep for my karate session tomorrow morning [21:44] gwenview blocking it? [21:44] probably [21:44] there are some more packages [21:44] should I list them here? [21:45] can do if you like, but I'm not puzzling over it tonight [21:45] then I will not bother your heads for tonight :D [21:45] we have time to bump it tomorrow ;) [21:46] but for just logging purposes here they are: [21:46] gwenview kde-config-mailtransport kdepimlibs-data kio-extras-data libkf5eventviews5 [21:46] libkf5followupreminder5 libkf5gravatar5 libkf5kdepimdbusinterfaces5 libkf5kdgantt2-5 [21:46] libkf5libkleo5 libkf5mailimporter5 libkf5mailtransport-data libkf5sendlater5 [21:46] libkf5templateparser5 [21:46] these 14 [21:47] gwenview is version 15.12.3 [21:47] and it seems OK [21:48] good night all :D [21:53] zzzzzzz [21:53] as well [21:53] ahoneybun: probably, but clivejo always prefere to test it in staging [21:54] no I mean it should be in staging [21:56] did you all get kicked out? [21:57] yup [21:58] being naughty? [21:59] wasn't even in front of PC [22:02] apps updated fine on laptop, but same probs with some other things being not installable [22:02] with that, goodnight :) [22:04] night night [22:08] ah, so it wasn't just me [22:08] bumpy ride on freenode [22:23] valorie: dont you have a bouncer? [22:25] I do, but it briefly disconnected [22:25] my connection was steady on linuxchix and rootsweb though [22:25] so it was just freenode barfing [23:23] http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2016/07/kde-applications-1608-schedule-finalized.html [23:23] https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Applications/16.08_Release_Schedule [23:26] anyone shed some light on the mpeg thumbs in dophin? [23:26] hey dont work :D [23:26] I know that! [23:26] but why! [23:27] uhm, clivejo https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=201484 [23:27] gram master versin of ffmpegthumbs? [23:28] !info ffmpegthumbs [23:28] Package ffmpegthumbs does not exist in yakkety [23:28] !info ffmpegthumbs xenial [23:28] ffmpegthumbs (source: ffmpegthumbs): video thumbnail generator using ffmpeg. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 15 kB, installed size 61 kB [23:28] the 16.04.3 version should work [23:30] !info kio-extras [23:30] kio-extras (source: kio-extras): Extra functionality for kioslaves.. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 418 kB, installed size 1702 kB [23:30] !info kio-extras xenial [23:30] kio-extras (source: kio-extras): Extra functionality for kioslaves.. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 418 kB, installed size 1702 kB [23:31] its installing /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so [23:31] clivejo: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351894#c16 [23:31] KDE bug 351894 in ffmpegthumbs "Missing video thumbnails after upgrading to 15.08" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [23:33] so the problem is wrong path to plugins ? [23:35] I dunno [23:35] its installing where cmake told it to install [23:35] have you tried "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/* /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/" [23:36] clivejo: ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/ and it contains only ffmpegthumbs.so [23:37] and this one ffmpegthumbs.so does not exists in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ [23:37] and dolphin looks for it in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ ? [23:38] !info ffmpegthumbs [23:38] Package ffmpegthumbs does not exist in yakkety [23:38] oh its in proposed [23:39] 15.12.3 is installing it to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so [23:40] and is it valid path? [23:40] 16.04.3 is to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so [23:40] 16.04.3 ? [23:41] sorry 16.04.2 [23:41] the apps version we are working on [23:42] and it is definitely there [23:42] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics-thumbnailers/+bug/1574049 [23:42] Launchpad bug 1574049 in kdegraphics-thumbnailers (Ubuntu) "kdegraphics-thumbnailers 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 uses the wrong path for plugin libraries" [Undecided,Confirmed] [23:44] and the firt one mentioned in comment - ffmpegthumbs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpegthumbs/+bug/1574037 [23:44] Launchpad bug 1574037 in ffmpegthumbs (Ubuntu) "ffmpegthumbs 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 uses the wrong path for plugin libraries" [Undecided,Confirmed] [23:45] so i assume somthing frm this reports affects us? [23:46] I cant even see where the problem lies [23:46] the file is being installed in the right place [23:46] but dolphin wont use it [23:47] i have now video thumbs after linking it properly [23:47] sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so [23:48] do you have it: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so ? [23:49] yes [23:49] lol ? [23:49] ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ | pastebinit [23:49] i must see it ;D [23:52] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 47760 Jun 29 11:51 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ffmpegthumbs.so [23:53] and preiews enabled in Dolphin ? [23:53] *previews [23:53] nope [23:53] oO [23:54] I dunno [23:55] I cant see hows its a packaging issue