[02:51] <starshield> Hello
[02:51] <starshield> I am new to Ubuntu and Kubuntu, but before I can even start using it I am having problems.
[02:54] <starshield> I installed it using Guided: resize SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #2(sda) and use freed space
[02:54] <starshield> Rebooted, Windows 7 is there but Kubuntu is not
[03:01] <starshield> Hello rimd2r
[03:01] <starshield> Hello guiverc
[03:02] <starshield> Hello prth
[03:06] <starshield> ...
[03:14] <guiverc> hi starshield; entered only cause I forgot to close this from earlier (packaging dojo).. thanks for greeting!
[03:14] <starshield> Hello
[04:34] <dbrom> anyone here
[06:09] <Haohmaru> how do i put this kubuntu 16.04 desktop i386 iso onto a USB flash stick? because i tried with rufus, in ISO mode, in DD mode, i tried also under linux with "dd", and with unetbootin.. and nothing works.. the result is "isolinux.bin is missing or corrupt" or something like that
[06:09] <Haohmaru> am i doing something wrong?
[06:11] <hateball> Haohmaru: what's the DD string you are using?
[06:11] <hateball> under linux, that is. I know not of this rufus
[06:11] <Haohmaru> i used dd if=<the_iso> of=/dev/sdb
[06:11] <hateball> that said, I also havent used i386 in forever, so there may be some bug there I am unaware of
[06:13] <Haohmaru> i think i also tried with bs=4096 at the end, to speed it up
[06:13] <dellhem> Hey. Last time I reinstalled Kubuntu, there were some icons missing for some applications, KRDC for instance.. I has an Icon in other themes, so can I redownload the Breeze theme in some way?
[06:14] <hateball> Haohmaru: yes bs=4M will speed it up. Did you make sure to run "sync" afterwards to make sure everything was flushed to the drive?
[06:14] <Haohmaru> hm
[06:14] <hateball> dellhem: do you use backports? krdc icon seems broken there
[06:14] <Haohmaru> no
[06:15] <hateball> Haohmaru: some drives are so slow, and the command will appear to be done but all changes may not have been written to the disk
[06:15] <dellhem> hateball - Yeah, I do. Maybe that's it then =)
[06:15] <Haohmaru> yeah, but i think that would be handled by programs like rufus and unetbootin
[06:15] <hateball> dellhem: you can find the icon here /usr/share/app-install/icons/krdc.png for shortcut purposes, but it's broken in the tray still
[06:15] <Haohmaru> i'll try tho
[06:16] <hateball> Haohmaru: any reason you are using i386 instead of x64 ?
[06:16] <Haohmaru> do i understand correctly that the .iso includes a partition table and filesystem?
[06:16] <Haohmaru> yes, the computer i'll be using this on is 32bit
[06:18] <hateball> Haohmaru: Yes, the iso is complete. You could try shred'ing the thumbdrive before just to kill off mbr etc. to be extra sure :D
[06:18] <hateball> Haohmaru: if the computer is old enough to only run 32-bit then I think you wont have a great time with Kubuntu... what are the specs?
[06:20] <Haohmaru> two-processor xenon, 2.6GHz, 1GB ram
[06:20] <Haohmaru> nvidia fx5200
[06:20] <hateball> Hmmm, RAM is a bit on the low side, but it'll run
[06:21] <Haohmaru> okay, bbl
[06:21] <dellhem> hateball - I don't have it in tray, so that's fine. how can I change the panel shortcut icon?
[06:21] <hateball> dellhem: rightclick it
[06:21] <hateball> dellhem: edit launcher thingy, then click the square where there is no image
[06:21] <hateball> dellhem: but I think I had to edit the shortcut in the alt+f1 menu first, then send to panel from there to get it working
[06:22] <hateball> dellhem: by default it will show an icon in systray for each running krdc, they will now be blank
[06:25] <Haohmaru> well, another attempt with rufus and it's still not bootable
[06:25] <Haohmaru> gonna try "dd" now
[06:28] <hateball> Haohmaru: also some older machines might have problems with isolinux so you could try switching to syslinux instead
[06:28] <Haohmaru> what does that mean?
[06:29] <hateball> different bootloader
[06:29] <hateball> Haohmaru: check that BIOS is fully up to date also
[06:31] <Haohmaru> i've installed debian 8.4 from a live usb stick onto my computer here (which is 64bit)
[06:31] <Haohmaru> yet i cannot boot this kubuntu now
[06:31] <Haohmaru> hm
[06:31] <Haohmaru> i cannot boot it on 3 different machines
[06:31] <Haohmaru> two of which are 64bit
[06:34] <hateball> can you boot any other distro off this same stick?
[06:35] <hateball> sounds like it's not playing nice
[06:36] <Haohmaru> i'll see, i'm putting a winXP image on it to test
[06:36] <dellhem> hateball - thanks. didn't get that to work, but i used locate to find my krdc.png's and added the path to the "Icon=" line in krdc.desktop. Works for shortcuts now, still not for tray though, fyi.
[06:37] <Haohmaru> so, isolinux may not work on some older BIOSes, what does debian 8.4 use? because we've installed debian 8.4 onto that xenon computer, iirc from a usb stick
[07:32] <clearnote01> Hello @all
[07:32] <clearnote01> I want to set system wide socks proxy
[07:32] <clearnote01> can kde Proxy module do that?
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:19] <petersaints> Hi guys! Will you provide updates for KDE Application on the Backports PPA?
[14:20] <petersaints> Ok, I've seen that KDE Applications 16.04 are already on the Staging PPA, so I hope that they will soon be moved to the Backports PPA.
[14:22] <petersaints> Also, more importantly I've been waiting for KDE Plasma 5.7. I hope that it will not take too long to have it on Xenial after the release next week. They have finally fixed a bug that I wanted fixed for a long time now :P
[14:22] <petersaints> Anyway, keep up the good work guys ;)
[14:27] <marco-parillo> I believe Plasma 5.7 can land in YY soon after Qt 5.6 (which is packaged by the larger Ubuntu team, not the Kubuntu developers, so it can be shared by others, in particular the Ubuntu Phone), but I am less certain about their intentions for XX.
[14:29] <jimarvan> petersaints: which bug is that? :O
[14:29] <yofel> Xenial can be published before Yakkety, but as that also comes with a Qt update QA will probably take a while
[14:33] <petersaints> @jimarvan, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315488 It's not a bug per-se. It's more a user experience enhancement thanks to a slightly different behavior. However, thanks to the new task manager backend the bug seems to have been fixed, even though it was a somewhat unintended side effect :P
[14:37] <petersaints> @yofel, Ok. Thanks for the reply. I understand that it is somewhat tricky to keep everything in sync when there is so much interpendence between Qt, KDE Frameworks, Applications and Plasma. I don't have a problem with waiting a bit. Due to the aforementioned bug, I've been actually using GNOME (I've been using more and more web apps on Chrome and I like to have them treated as separate applications) and while I love KDE, I also
[14:37] <petersaints> like GNOME, so I will "survive" a few months without it ;)
[15:11] <shifu> anyone can help me with dvbt pen
[15:16] <soul> Does anyone know why the menu opens in the other monitor, please? http://gifyu.com/images/Screenshot_20160630_135824.png
[15:21] <MichaelTunnell> Does anyone have a link to the solution for WiFi connections not being remembered? I keep getting asked on every boot to insert the wifi password and that's not acceptable to give a non-tech family member.
[15:22] <jimarvan> MichaelTunnell: do you see the kdewallet popup?
[15:23] <MichaelTunnell> I did see that until I turned it off since I dont like kwallet. Is kwallet a requirement now?
[15:23] <jimarvan> come on private I will help you :)
[15:24] <MichaelTunnell> you mean a PM?
[15:24] <jimarvan> +1
[15:24] <BluesKaj> shifu:  is this a tablet/laptop ?
[15:24] <marco-parillo> Here is my old bug (WONTFIX): https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344600
[15:25] <BluesKaj> jimarvan:  whynot share your expertise with the rest of us
[15:25] <shifu> BluesKaj: it is a desktop, i've updatet kubuntun from 14.04 to 16.04 yestarday. After that the dvbt pen is not working anymore
[15:27] <daum_> how do i disable ibus?
[15:29] <jimarvan> MichaelTunnell: I am confirming that if you switch off kwallet --> Wi-if passowrds are not stored and retrieved any more
[15:29] <jimarvan> just tested it on my 2nd laptop: Disabled kdewallet, rebooted and wi-fi password dialog appeared
[15:30] <MichaelTunnell> jimarvan: yea, unfortunately kwallet is incredibly frustrating. I'll try to do it anyway.
[15:33] <BluesKaj> shifu:  I'm not familair with dvbt, l please give us some details
[15:33] <shifu> BluesKaj: which details do you need
[15:34] <shifu> BluesKaj: what i did was to upddate from 14.04 to 16.04
[15:34] <shifu> BluesKaj: in the 14.04 it worked properly
[15:35] <BluesKaj> what is it , a pvr or some such?
[15:36] <MichaelTunnell> gpg vs blowfish in Kwallet? which one is the least frustrating for the user to use? (I am needing to give Kubuntu to someone)
[15:36] <shifu> BluesKaj: are you chatting with me?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> MichaelTunnell:  I just disable kwallet, then it doean't bother me anymore
[15:37] <MichaelTunnell> BluesKaj: yes me too but 16.04 is broken and never remembers wifi with kwallet disabled.
[15:37] <MichaelTunnell> BluesKaj: every time it boots it asks for a wifi password and thats obviously not acceptable
[15:38] <BluesKaj> really? , I have 16.04 on my laptop and no wifi pw probs there, are your packages etc all up to date?
[15:40] <MichaelTunnell> I installed 16.04 today, unable to download updates while installing (option in the installer wouldn't allow me to click it), installed updates immediately after system install and connection to wifi.
[15:40] <shifu> BluesKaj: beside the problem with dvbt pen, I have the same problem fo MichaelTunnell
[15:40] <jimarvan> BluesKaj: yes i just confirmed the issue
[15:41] <MichaelTunnell> I rebooted after installing the updates and it asked me for wifi password . . . I rebooted twice to see if it will always ask me and it does always ask, every time.
[15:41] <jimarvan> I just re-enabled kwallet manager and guess what happened after i rebooted
[15:42] <MichaelTunnell> jimarvan: I hope it doesnt ask you
[15:42] <jimarvan> xD no no it works :>
[15:43] <jimarvan> so just enable kde wallet and you are fine :)
[15:43] <MichaelTunnell> lol scared me for a sec
[15:43] <jimarvan> intended! hahaha :D
[15:43] <jimarvan> we are KUBUNTU! :P
[15:43] <jimarvan> we scare people
[15:43] <jimarvan> hahaha
[15:43] <MichaelTunnell> except kde wallet asks me to unlock it to do everything and that's useless for average users
[15:43] <jimarvan> ye that is fixed
[15:43] <jimarvan> it was fixed on one of the updates today
[15:43] <MichaelTunnell> I want the system to login automatically and kwallet never ask them anything
[15:43] <jimarvan> have you updated recently?
[15:44] <jimarvan> ye i had the same exact problem
[15:44] <acheronuk> I have KDE wallet firmly disabled, and no problem here
[15:44] <MichaelTunnell> jimarvan: I installed 16.04 and updated it today
[15:44] <jimarvan> sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade now
[15:44] <jimarvan> do it
[15:44] <MichaelTunnell> installed today*
[15:44] <jimarvan> NOW
[15:44] <jimarvan> :D
[15:44] <shifu> jimarvan: may you help me also with my dvbt pen drive
[15:44] <jimarvan> let me check one more thing, i suspect it might be connected with autologin?
[15:45] <jimarvan> you have autologin on your laptop right?
[15:45] <jimarvan> shifu: sorry m8 i didn't follow you
[15:45] <jimarvan> is that a TV tuner?
[15:45] <MichaelTunnell> jimarvan: yep but maybe I can convince them to login each day if that is a problem
[15:45] <MichaelTunnell> pen drive is a usb drive but dvbt no idea
[15:46] <jimarvan> MichaelTunnell: I will check for you now, I think there is a problem with autologin not remembering kde wallet
[15:46] <jimarvan> same like ubuntu's gnome ring problem
[15:46] <jimarvan> shifu: https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_USB_Devices
[15:46] <jimarvan> go there, if it is a TV tuner and you can't find it in there you are in bad luck
[15:46] <MichaelTunnell> yea apt upgrade = already up to date
[15:46] <jimarvan> hmm
[15:47] <jimarvan> then it is autologin
[15:47] <jimarvan> enable login screen again
[15:47] <MichaelTunnell> well I dont have kwallet setup yet
[15:47] <jimarvan> oh let me try it then for you
[15:47] <jimarvan> one sec
[15:48] <jimarvan> enabled autologin and rebooting
[15:48] <jimarvan> what I expect to happen is that kdewallet will ask me for password
[15:48] <jimarvan> hope not ;)
[15:48] <MichaelTunnell> if I can setup the system and they never get bothered with this kind of thing then I can deal with that but if they get bothered by it they will move back to Windows. I gave them Linux Mint before I realized how awesome Plasma is and they are really pissed off at Mint so I can't give them anything that is frustrating at all.
[15:48] <shifu> jimarvan:  it is fatech Technologies, Inc. AF9015..... it work in 14.04 before to update to 16.04
[15:49] <jimarvan> shifu it is clearly a linux kernel problem :(
[15:49] <jimarvan> if there any way to install the package for that from linuxtv.org
[15:49] <jimarvan> you are saved
[15:49] <jimarvan> probably a firmware blob? :(
[15:50] <jimarvan> MichaelTunnell: you struck gold
[15:50] <jimarvan> there is problem with User Accounts management....
[15:51] <jimarvan> I cannot remove a user from there... and cannot enable autologin xD
[15:51] <jimarvan> i have to check it after work, i am putting on things-to-do for the weekend :)
[15:51] <MichaelTunnell> lol fantastic . . . 24k gold bugs are the best
[15:51] <jimarvan> for now I suggest:
[15:51] <jimarvan> offer a password login, which should work
[15:52] <jimarvan> without any more annoyances from password manager unlocks
[15:52] <shifu> jimarvan: im not sure that it is a kernel problme becasue i've tried to use the last kernel used in 14.04 and it stil not working
[15:52] <jimarvan> and I will see on forums what is going on with the User Accounts interface
[15:52] <jimarvan> shifu: :/ ye though you would have tried that :(
[15:53] <jimarvan> man I have a stupid AverMedia myself, that was a pain to install on Linux :(
[15:53] <jimarvan> hmm hmm hmm what you could do...
[15:53] <jimarvan> come on PM
[15:53] <MichaelTunnell> jimarvan: lol I just found another weird issue. I disabled kwallet so it would stop asking me to make a wallet for wifi login. I then logged into wifi finding the previous issue. Now I reenabled kwallet with no wallet made and wifi logging in no longer asks me to create a wallet.
[15:54] <jimarvan> -.-
[15:54] <jimarvan> well
[15:54] <jimarvan> ye... no comment :P
[15:54] <MichaelTunnell> :)
[15:54] <jimarvan> probably it is not encrypted :(
[15:55] <MichaelTunnell> yea laptop is not encrypted . . . path of least resistence
[15:55] <MichaelTunnell> resistance*
[15:55] <jimarvan> no i mean the password
[15:55] <jimarvan> but ye who cares
[15:55] <shifu> jimarvan: solved
[15:55] <jimarvan> just tell your wife not use your credit card :D
[15:55] <jimarvan> shifu: pls tell me how!
[15:56] <shifu> jimarvan: just the file.fw was missing in lib/firmware
[15:56] <MichaelTunnell> not sure what you mean for the credit card thing :) the system isn't infected automatically without encryption lol
[15:56] <jimarvan> shifu: you are a genius ;)
[15:56] <jimarvan> MichaelTunnell: just pulling your leg m8 :D
[15:57] <MichaelTunnell> lmao after reboot wifi is no longer asking for a password, instead is asking to create a wallet. Kwallet is so seamless, no frustrations ever (not like it's been an issue for years or anything)
[15:57] <jimarvan> told ya :P
[15:57] <BluesKaj> is kwallet disabled?
[15:57] <jimarvan> he has autologin
[15:57] <jimarvan> and kwallet was disabled before
[15:58] <jimarvan> he enabled kwallet and auto-logined
[15:58] <jimarvan> *auto-loggedin
[15:58] <shifu> jimarvan: you say :-)
[15:58] <BluesKaj> autoligin is linked to kwallet obviously, so don't autologin ;-)
[15:58] <jimarvan> same thing like gnome-ring in ubuntu
[15:58] <jimarvan> ;)
[15:59] <BluesKaj> type your login pw once and you're done
[15:59] <jimarvan> shifu: I am keeping this log, would be lovely to have somewhere to report it
[15:59] <MichaelTunnell> BluesKaj: thats obviously problematic . . . kwallet is a messy
[15:59] <jimarvan> kwallet is beautiful!
[15:59] <jimarvan> :D
[15:59] <shifu> jimarvan: help me to with the same problme of kwallet
[15:59] <MichaelTunnell> "on the inside" kind of way I guess
[15:59] <BluesKaj> can't be bothered with it, I'm on home network
[16:00] <MichaelTunnell> shifu: the solution is turn off kwallet and turn off autologin . . . it seems
[16:00] <jimarvan> the solution is: turn on kwallet AND autologin
[16:00] <BluesKaj> yup
[16:00] <jimarvan> anything else will be working AS INTENDED
[16:00] <shifu> MichaelTunnell: i dont have autologin enable
[16:00] <jimarvan> enable kwallet shifu
[16:01] <jimarvan> you can just use a very simple password like a pin
[16:01] <jimarvan> for your wife to enter
[16:02] <jimarvan> anyway work is over see ya later peeps!
[16:03] <MichaelTunnell> jimarvan: cya
[16:03] <shifu> jimarvan: where i can file the menu to enable kwallet ?
[16:04] <shifu> jimarvan: i think it is already enabled
[16:04] <MichaelTunnell> lmao ok this is dumb. User Manager is saying that I dont have autologin enabled even though I do. I then clicked it and unclicked it to turn it off. It is still enabled so it's permanently enabled in System Settings view lol
[16:04] <MichaelTunnell> shifu: System Settings -> Account Details -> KWallet
[16:05] <shifu> MichaelTunnell: tnk, i've just found it but i supposed it waw enabled yet
[16:05] <shifu> MichaelTunnell: i can try to disable it anad enable again ?
[16:09] <MichaelTunnell> shifu: if you disable it and then activate wifi and then reboot to test if it remembers or not
[16:09] <MichaelTunnell> in theory if you are not set to autologin it should remember
[16:09] <MichaelTunnell> it seems autologin is tied to kwallet but if you arent using that then you aren't tied to that limitation
[16:10] <shifu> MichaelTunnell: ok tnk
[16:10] <chinmoy> MichaelTunnel: will you confirm something for me?
[16:10] <MichaelTunnell> chinmoy: I can try
[16:11] <chinmoy> MichaelTunnel: i opened dolphin from konsole using "dolphin /usr///bin" and this is what i get http://tinypic.com/r/33wnoe9/9
[16:11] <chinmoy> see the navigation bar.
[16:12] <MichaelTunnell> that link doesnt work, please use imgur instead
[16:17] <shifu> why my kubuntu 16.04 star only using upstart entry in grub?
[16:18] <chinmoy> MichaelTunnel: well..imgur is crashing all the time...but can you try opening dolphin from konsole with command "dolphin /usr////bin" and tell me whats shown in navigation bar?
[16:18] <MichaelTunnell> shifu: should not use upstart at all hmm
[16:19] <MichaelTunnell> why are you doing /usr////bin? it's /usr/bin
[16:19] <shifu> MichaelTunnell: :-(
[16:20] <chinmoy> MichaelTunnel: just testing KUrlNavigator.
[16:20] <MichaelTunnell> shifu: the default in Ubuntu base is systemd now so upstart is kind of weird now
[16:21] <MichaelTunnell> chinmoy: dolphin loaded fine for me and the correct folder
[16:21] <MichaelTunnell> I did both /bin and ////bin
[16:21] <MichaelTunnell> both are fine
[16:22] <shifu> MichaelTunnell: yes MichaelTunnell... i don't knnow waht to do
[16:22] <chinmoy> MichaelTunnel: yes dolphin loads the correct folder. whats in navigation bar? dolphin must show "usr>bin" but is showing "Root>usr" for me.
[16:24] <chinmoy> What are you getting in the navigation bar above with /usr///bin?
[16:26] <MichaelTunnell> shifu: I am sorry I do not know how to fix that issue. I haven't dealt with upstart in years.
[16:28] <MichaelTunnell> it says "root > usr > bin"
[16:28] <MichaelTunnell> which is accurate
[16:29] <shifu> MichaelTunnell: ok tnk
[16:29] <chinmoy> then i think its a problem with my installation.
[16:40] <BluesKaj> yes I'm here chinmoy
[16:40] <chinmoy> BluesKaj: will you just try opening dolphin from konsole with command "dolphin /usr///bin" and tell me what  path you see in navigation bar?
[16:41] <chinmoy> BluesKaj: i mean is it showing "usr>bin"? coz i am getting "Root>usr".
[16:42] <BluesKaj> it opens as root due to the ///
[16:42] <chinmoy> does qualifies as bug?
[16:42] <chinmoy> *this
[16:43] <BluesKaj>  /usr/bin is alway root afaik
[16:44] <BluesKaj> anyway i have to go , bbl
[16:45] <chinmoy> BluesKaj: just one more thing what you get with /home/user///Desktop/some_folder_in_your_desktop
[16:59] <viewer|8551> salve
[17:00] <soee> hiho
[17:00] <viewer|8551> I'm very new here and i've just installed Kubuntu
[17:01] <soee> welcome, do you like it ? :)
[17:02] <viewer|8551> I'm trying to leave windows, my laptop had installed windows 7
[17:02] <viewer|8551> yes it looks great and feels much better than windows but i have a couple of issues since i don't know the os
[17:02] <soee> viewer|8551: sure thing, please test Kubutnu for a while first :)
[17:02] <soee> what kind of issues ?
[17:02] <jimarvan> :)
[17:03] <viewer|8551> I've installed Kubuntu on a HDD that had windows installed first, i did install Kubuntu via usb
[17:03] <viewer|8551> and did a full install on the entire hdd
[17:03] <viewer|8551> I'm on Intel i5 8gb ram
[17:04] <soee> so it shoudl work pretty smooth :-)
[17:04] <viewer|8551> I has a SMART error and i wanted to check if there is any app that i can use to move the damaged sectors
[17:04] <soee> !smart
[17:05] <jimarvan> viewer|8551: it shouldn't use those damaged sectore anyway, it is different how hdd is managed than windows
[17:05] <soee> viewer|8551: side topic - you are on Kubuntu 16.04 right?
[17:06] <viewer|8551> yes 16.04
[17:06] <soee> viewer|8551: do you have backports ppa enabled ?
[17:06] <viewer|8551> when i try to run command sudo apt-get install smartmontools  via terminal it doesn't find the package
[17:07] <viewer|8551> don't know what backports ppa are ..
[17:07] <soee> viewer|8551: ok so step after step
[17:07] <soee> viewer|8551: run the commands i described here https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/FeSxv1kGaSL
[17:08] <soee> viewer|8551: also be sure you have updated packages index to get this package, run: sudo apt update
[17:08] <soee> i see the package is  available in archive
[17:09] <soee> smartmontools 6.4+svn4214-1
[17:12] <soee> viewer|8551: the packports ppa contains newer versions of packages like Plasma, Frameworks, soon Applications etc.
[17:12] <viewer|8551> hi soee thanks for your post, is has updates something,
[17:13] <viewer|8551> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/3Lo0JsjrSrOXootJknCh?signature=59fd1bd4e31adc9ba74c565e9511d9a9092ab9fec584e744581039f7727c3203&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOj
[17:13] <soee> that link donsnt work
[17:14] <viewer|8551> it's downloading smartmontools and packages
[17:15] <soee> :)
[17:15] <viewer|8551> :)
[17:15] <viewer|8551> is that normal that i cant access to /root folder (it has a lock icon on it) ..
[17:16] <soee> well yes
[17:18] <viewer|8551> one more question (during the boot my laptop still shows windows 7 as possible OS to boot with kubuntu, did i perform the installation wrong in anyway?
[17:25] <BluesKaj> viewer|8551:  that's normal for legacy BIOS pcs made before 2010
[17:26] <viewer|8551> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/DFTSqRvTTBSfTcWYY6XE?signature=4d9be465fc1b8bc78c5281392b5d0771a58fde4339979ec465e6793216c0471b&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE0NjczOTcwNzN9
[17:26] <BluesKaj> assume you installed kubuntu on an ext partition beside windows
[17:28] <viewer|8551> well I did install kubuntu but over windows (the idea was to bin windows )
[17:29] <starshield> Hello
[17:29] <soee> hiho starshield
[17:29] <viewer|8551> yes my laptop has been probably made around 2010
[17:29] <soee> BluesKaj: isn't it that there is small 100 MB partition with boot sector that might contain some Windows related data?
[17:29] <krux8> hello guys
[17:29] <soee> hiho krux8
[17:29] <starshield> I've had nothing but trouble trying to install Kubuntu....I wish I was better at understanding this.
[17:30] <starshield> Hello krux8
[17:30] <krux8> i was having trouble in setting Socks proxy in kubuntu
[17:30] <starshield> I don't blame Kubuntu, obviously.
[17:30] <soee> starshield: what troubles ?
[17:30] <krux8> can somebody help with that ;-;
[17:30] <BluesKaj> soee:  yes, but that's only if the user uses a dual boot setup
[17:30] <starshield> I can't get it to install properly.
[17:30] <soee> BluesKaj: so might be he only needs to remove windows entry from grub config ?
[17:30] <krux8> soee: starshield: yo :-)
[17:31] <starshield> The files seem to be on the hard drive after installing from a livedisk, but "no bootable devices" error...
[17:31] <soee> krux8: sorry im not familiar with this stuff, can't help here :)
[17:31] <krux8> can i enter socks proxy in kde Proxy module? That is not working for me
[17:31] <krux8> please help somebody ;-;
[17:32] <soee> starshield: are you sure it was installed properly and booting order is fine in BIOS ?
[17:32] <BluesKaj> soee:  not sure, itcould be that ubiquity saves that windows boot partition as the mbr, never used auto or guided partitioning so i don't really know
[17:32] <krux8> starshield: thanks anyway. hope you get yours solved :)
[17:32] <starshield> I'm not sure.
[17:32] <starshield> The booting order is fine, yes.
[17:33] <soee> BluesKaj: so do i, i always configure them manually, format and set starting points
[17:33] <starshield> I'm not sure if it installed properly.
[17:33] <BluesKaj> soee:  exactly
[17:33] <soee> starshield: you went through all instalation steps ?
[17:34] <starshield> Yes.
[17:34] <soee> and in the end you saw popup window telling you to remove device and press Enter to reboot ?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> krux8:  in system settings>network settings>proxy ?
[17:35] <krux8> BluesKaj: i want to enter socks proxy for tor...
[17:35] <krux8> BluesKaj: and I left blank for http, ssl and ftp
[17:35] <starshield> Pretty sure...
[17:36] <krux8> BluesKaj: But when I tried to open in ff it wasn't working still
[17:36] <krux8> am i doing something wrong?
[17:36] <soee> starshield: you have only one system installed ? one partition ?
[17:36] <BluesKaj> krux8:  tor browser?
[17:36] <krux8> BluesKaj: command line tor
[17:36] <krux8> BluesKaj: it localhost:9050
[17:37] <krux8> *it is
[17:37] <starshield> Maybe something is giving me problems with partitions... let me check. It should've only been one partition but...
[17:37] <soee> lsblk
[17:38] <krux8> the funny thing is... if I write the settings in firefox manual setting, leaving http blank and entering socks host and port
[17:38] <starshield> Okay, partition editor is showing sda1, sda2, and sda3
[17:38] <krux8> it works without any issue -_-
[17:38] <BluesKaj> krux8: it's been a while since configured a proxy and ai always used the browser, but sionce i found a decent vpn I haven't bothered
[17:39] <soee> !uefi
[17:39] <krux8> BluesKaj: yes, i don't have to bother with proxy as well, usually, i just ssh into our college server for internet
[17:39] <krux8> BluesKaj: But there was something for which I needed this feature...
[17:40] <soee> BluesKaj: you are more into UEFI, does the No bootable device found might be related to it ?
[17:40] <starshield> It is in UEFI mode when it has that error, but in Legacy mode it is just a blinking "-"
[17:40] <starshield> Forever
[17:41] <soee> starshield: i think the problem is around this stuff somewhere
[17:41] <soee> still i never had issues/playes with with it on my Dell laptop
[17:42] <BluesKaj> soee:  not really into uefi actually ...i wiped the laptop hdd clean changed to dos from gtp and install W7 then kubuntu, so it's all legacy mode
[17:47] <starshield> hm.
[17:47] <bbuske> hello
[17:49] <soee> hiho bbuske
[17:52] <bbuske> ahh well that nick sucks :P lol
[17:59] <starshield> I don't know what to do.
[18:00] <BluesKaj> starshield:  are you dual booting windows and kubuntu?
[18:00] <starshield> No
[18:01] <BluesKaj> but you want to use the uefi system if possible
[18:05] <starshield> I honestly don't know which is better
[18:08] <BluesKaj> starshield: you may want to remove the windows boot and other ntfs partitions if they still exist and the resize the ext/linux partition to fill the void
[18:10] <BluesKaj> preserving the GPT partiton table is a good thing to do, it gives you more partitioning options once you understand more about partitoning
[18:41] <Black_Thorn> is it a good idea to add kubuntu backports? I mean on a production environment? a work laptop actually...
[18:41] <TheDiveO> (K)Ubuntu 16.04 with latest updates: program icon for KCharSelect is missing. I fsck'd just to be sure, but no errors.
[18:41] <Black_Thorn> I noted the software is fairly stable and well
[18:42] <TheDiveO> Any idea how I can reinstall the KCharSelect icon...?
[18:43] <BluesKaj> Black_Thorn:  only if the packages will benefit your OS
[19:05] <starshield> Still no luck installing Kubuntu.
[19:10] <BluesKaj> errors again , starshield?
[19:11] <starshield> yes...
[19:12] <BluesKaj> can you give details
[19:13] <starshield> I can.
[19:13] <starshield> Just tell me what I need to tell you.
[19:13] <starshield> I used Rufus to make a Kubuntu livedisk USb, then ran the installation program, then rebooted. It gave me a blinking cursor hyphen.
[19:14] <starshield> I changed to UEFI, and it said "No bootable device"
[19:17] <BluesKaj> go into the bios/uefi and set the mode to legacy , with secure boot disabled
[19:17] <BluesKaj> then save and exit
[19:18] <starshield> Legacy just gives me the blinking -
[19:18] <starshield> And I cannot find an option for disabling secure boot
[19:20] <soee-dev> what laptop it is ?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> ok leave it in legacy this time hold the left shift key down right after the post page/uefi/bios access shows up to see if can bring up grub
[19:21] <starshield> It is a Hell Latitude E5410
[19:21] <starshield> *Dell
[19:21] <starshield> ...Freudian slip
[19:21] <starshield> sorry
[19:21] <BluesKaj> heh
[19:24] <soee-dev> starshield: maybe gogle a bit
[19:24] <soee-dev> here is some old topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1619459&page=2&p=10679919#post10679919
[21:29] <jimtest> join #kubuntu-devel
[21:29] <jimtest> oops sorry
[21:31] <bprompt> jimtest:    go for it =P
[21:39] <jimarvan> ye sorry xD
[21:52] <skierpage> I booted into Kubuntu 16.04 for the first time in a month, and when Discover tries to update 17 packages, it fails with  "Could not download packages"
[21:53] <skierpage> the details are always
[21:53] <skierpage> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-4.4.0-26-generic_4.4.0-26.45_amd64.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.23 80]
[21:53] <skierpage> and 7 more linux packages
[21:58] <skierpage> I can browse this server, but it's slow as molasses, I'm viewing http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/ and clicking "linux" took 80 seconds
[22:00] <skierpage> Probably a #ubuntu thing, I'll ask there.
[22:16] <skierpage> someone in #ubuntu said "you got an outdated package list. that .deb file is not on that server anymore". Might be a bug in plasma-discover{,-updater} that it didn't refresh the sources list
[22:39] <soee> sudo apt update
[22:41] <skierpage> soee: yup, I did `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` in a terminal, that worked.
[22:41] <soee> :)
[23:31] <Quantos> I just received updates for chromium codecs - what the hell, I don't have chromium installed