[06:49] <Kilos> morning superfly inetpro paddatrapper tumbleweed et al
[07:00] <paddatrapper> Morning Kilos
[07:24] <tumbleweed> morning Kilos
[10:16] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[10:17] <Kilos> i see chrome also does it on 16.04
[10:19] <Kilos> oops
[15:53] <inetpro> Kilos: why so quiet today?
[15:54] <Kilos> everyone else quiet and sharks playing
[15:54] <Kilos> hehe
[15:54] <Kilos> have tried to help one bd guy with 16.04 black screen crash midway in an upgrade
[15:56] <inetpro> bd guy?
[15:56] <Kilos> one of pavlushkas croud
[15:56] <inetpro> ah
[15:57] <Kilos> crowd as well
[15:57] <Kilos> everyone here is happy to just lurk
[15:57] <inetpro> of course... it's cold
[15:57] <Kilos> firefox was using 100% cpu on another 16.04
[15:58] <Kilos> opera works fine
[15:58] <Kilos> couple more complained about ff last upgrade
[15:58] <inetpro> works fine by me
[15:58] <Kilos> weird 
[16:00] <inetpro> and mine even says to me, "Congrats! You’re using the latest version of Firefox."
[16:00] <Kilos> there are many links about 16.04 and browsers hitting 100% cpu
[16:01] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:01] <Kilos> you one of the lucky ones
[16:01]  * inetpro has been using Firefox since before beta 1
[16:02] <inetpro> you can't beat it
[16:02] <Kilos> im happy with opera
[16:03] <Kilos> does what i need
[16:05] <inetpro> it's still not open source
[16:05] <Kilos> did you check trello inetpro 
[16:05] <Kilos> what more cleaning up can be done
[16:06] <inetpro> not sure, what you trying to do?
[16:06] <Kilos> dunno
[16:06] <Kilos> its in meeting agenda i think
[16:07] <inetpro> so those current activities are really current?
[16:07] <Kilos> clean up stuff we arent going to do and have done
[16:08] <Kilos> Maaz seen chesedo
[16:08] <Maaz> Kilos: chesedo was last seen 2 days, 9 hours, 19 minutes and 1 second ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-06-29 23:49:02 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2016-07-02 00:37:22 PDT
[16:08] <Kilos> i had forgotten about trello till he mentioned it at the meeting
[16:09] <Kilos> and remember there is still one merge to africa channel when fly is free again one day
[16:09] <Kilos> lions killing the sharks
[16:09] <Kilos> 30/0
[16:10] <inetpro> eish!
[16:32] <Kilos> 37/0
[16:32] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:45] <Kilos> 37/10
[17:11] <gremble> Good evening guys
[17:11] <gremble> The link /vmlinuz.old is a damaged link
[17:11] <gremble> Removing symbolic link vmlinuz.old 
[17:11] <gremble>  you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub]
[17:11] <gremble> What does re-running my bootloader mean?
[17:14] <gremble> Nevermind. I found out
[17:15] <inetpro> gremble: it's a pointless message
[17:16] <inetpro> somebody should just fix it
[17:16] <inetpro> causes too much confusion
[17:18] <Kilos> but that means run sudo update-grub right?
[17:18] <Kilos> i got the message a week ago as well
[17:19] <Kilos> then i reinstalled guc-pc and grub-pc-bin as well i think
[17:20] <Kilos> but if it has removed that link surely it has already made a new one
[17:20] <Kilos> .old is unused isnt it inetpro ?
[17:21] <gremble> My system keeps installing linux-headers-4.20.0-41 and the other stuff, but after installation, it says that they are ready for removal with autoremovie
[17:21] <gremble> remove*
[17:21] <Kilos> those are old things
[17:21] <Kilos> you save space
[17:21] <inetpro> Kilos: the message can be safely ignored
[17:21] <Kilos> apt-get autoremove
[17:22] <Kilos> .old is unsused right inetpro ?
[17:22] <inetpro> Kilos: obviously
[17:22] <Kilos> thats why it can be safely ignored
[17:22] <inetpro> gremble: sudo apt autoremove
[17:23] <gremble> Yes. I do that. But then it just reinstalls it
[17:23] <Kilos> oh does apt do it as well
[17:23] <inetpro> on 16.04 it does 
[17:23] <Kilos> oh
[17:24] <Kilos> run upgrade again gremble 
[17:24] <Kilos> sudo apt upgrade
[17:25] <Kilos> removed things shouldnt reinstall
[17:35] <inetpro> gremble: what version of Ubuntu?
[17:37] <gremble> inetpro, 15.10
[17:38] <inetpro> make sure you don't miss other errors in output 
[17:39] <inetpro> run this again:
[17:39] <inetpro> sudo apt-get update
[17:39] <Kilos> isnt that unsupported anymore
[17:41] <inetpro> End of life date: July 2016
[17:41] <Kilos> its july now isnt it
[17:42] <Kilos> ai!
[17:42] <gremble> Can I update it without reinstalling?
[17:43] <Kilos> you can upgrade to 16.04
[17:43] <Kilos> update manager should give the option
[17:44] <Kilos> or pro will give a command
[17:44] <Kilos> lotsa data will be used though
[17:44] <gremble> Uncapped ADSL. Not so bad. Just slow
[17:45] <Kilos> then you can upgrade
[17:45] <inetpro> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo update-manager -d
[17:45] <Kilos> hopefully you dont use and apps that are still buggy
[17:45] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[17:45] <Kilos> s/and/any
[17:45] <inetpro> start with a backup first, if you have important stuff
[17:56] <gremble> Did that, still on 15.10 :P
[18:18] <gremble> Lol it is a 2GB upgrade
[18:28] <Kilos> eish
[18:39] <inetpro> ⚠️ ALERT: Intense #COLDFRONT now in #Gauteng. Strong ridging high in the mix with early forecast showing cold weather well into next week.
[18:40] <inetpro> brrrr....
[18:42] <gremble> Dammit. Have to check my trees then.
[18:42] <Kilos> um
[18:43] <Kilos> i forgot to cover the fig tress buds
[18:54] <Kilos> and inetpro 
[18:55] <Kilos> what did you say this morning when i said bit cold coming
[18:55] <Kilos> its that time of the year or something
[18:56] <Kilos> maybe it was yesterday
[19:13] <Kilos> night all and sundry
[19:13] <Kilos> sleep warm