[00:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> dyc3, they let you give extra permissions for certain users/groups, in addition to the standard Unix permissions
[00:00] <kieppie> UEFI makes things a little trickier - the whole TPM secure-boot thing.
[00:00] <Padrone> is there a way anyone :(
[00:00] <Padrone> ?
[00:01] <ShadeS> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic none of this is changing my ip address
[00:01] <ShadeS> only after reboot will any chagnes made to etc/networking/interfaces take effeect
[00:01] <dyc3> Eduard_Munteanu: that sounds great, ill look into it
[00:01] <ShadeS> what gives
[00:01] <Eduard_Munteanu> dyc3, man setfacl
[00:01] <broadband> kieppie: I heard Ubuntu is fine with UEFI
[00:02] <Padrone> control ubuntu touch from ubuntu pc not possiblerino?
[00:02] <ShadeS> is 'systemd' breaking things here
[00:02] <kieppie> I've found win updates have "undesirable outcomes" by borking boots. on desktop (got a few here), I set up win on it's own disk, then unplug it, install new disk & install linux on it, and then re-attach win disk & do a grup update to give me boot option, and ensure that the grup disk loads 1st.
[00:02] <kieppie> if laptop, then UnetBootIn live-USB works best
[00:02] <ShadeS> because i'm not doing it in some specific weird way?
[00:03] <ShadeS> i mean, thta is the offical page, it should work
[00:03] <ShadeS> if it doesn't somethings up
[00:03] <Padrone> whoever answers ill give them my league of legends account! PLAT 3 EUW!
[00:03] <kieppie> I've gone round this multi-boot messry-go-round far too many times & found this to work best, most relaible for me with least undesirable outcomes - loke corrupted boots after updates
[00:04] <broadband> kieppie: I was planning to boot it from usb and then install
[00:04] <broadband> Do you think it could cause any errors?
[00:04] <kieppie> for the most part I've not really had much issues with UEFI, but YMMV - most frustrating thing I've found is that not all mobo's like booting form USB or SD
[00:04] <Padrone> Well i feel pretty left outerino so im probably leaving :(  thanks for the help :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
[00:04] <ShadeS> this is really weird everything on google says the ip shoudl change and none of these are actually taking effect
[00:05] <kieppie> broadband: depends - do you *really* need multi-boot?
[00:05] <broadband> mobos?
[00:05] <kieppie> can you run win in vbox on your linux desktop, or visa versa?
[00:05] <kieppie> upgrade to W10 - if you can - activate & get the licence key before doing anything
[00:06] <kieppie> motherboards
[00:06] <Padrone> U r all mean! btw just saying cruel karma lives right around the corner
[00:06] <broadband> he was wanting to try it on a fully working motherboard
[00:06] <kieppie> Padrone: what's up?
[00:06] <broadband> ** system, I mean
[00:06] <Padrone> i dont know how to whisper
[00:06] <broadband> He has been using it in a VB for awhile now
[00:06] <Padrone> but just installed ubuntu touch
[00:07] <Padrone> and want to remotely control it from my pc
[00:07] <Padrone> my phone that is
[00:07] <kieppie> my advice - and I've been down this road FAAAAR too many times, is (since W7?) NOT to multiboot: FAR to many issues bite you in the rear
[00:08] <kieppie> Padrone: VNC is probably simplest
[00:08] <kieppie> VNC over VPN is better
[00:08] <Padrone> Vnc tutorial and follow the guides?
[00:08] <kieppie> VNC is a PitA, but OK start
[00:09] <kieppie> Padrone: sure - there sould be no shortage. I don't use Ubuntu touch (yet), so can't comment
[00:09] <broadband> kieppie: wb booting more than one linux distros? ok with it?
[00:09] <ShadeS> ok
[00:09] <Hydr0p0nX> i use vnc when I need actual desktop access and putty + xming when I just need an access to an X based app
[00:09] <ShadeS> for some reason i can connect to two ips
[00:09] <kieppie> brb
[00:09] <kieppie> afk
[00:09] <ShadeS> what's up wtith this buggy network behavior in ubuntu?
[00:09] <Padrone> Thats okay thanks bud all i can offer is a league account if you want it since i just quit since using linux xD
[00:09] <Padrone> thanks for the help bud
[00:12] <tortib> I'm using gnome3 classic and whenever I open archive or nautilis it shows the window controls on the left side, I want them on the right and only the close button to show up.  How can I accomplish this?
[00:12] <ShadeS> any ideas anyone?
[00:13] <ShadeS> hwo i can get the old ip to not be connected to/as anymore, without a /full system restart/
[00:13] <ShadeS> I mean I remember ubuntu used to at least be able to change ips without a restart. . . .
[00:13] <YankDownUnder> tortib: Is this a question you've already asked in the gnome channels?
[00:13] <tortib> nobody talks in the gnome channels
[00:13] <tortib> YankDownUnder, this wasn't how it was when I was using antergos so it's something with ubuntu
[00:13] <YankDownUnder> tortib: Ah. Fair enough.
[00:15] <YankDownUnder> tortib: Sounds like it would be something to do with the GTK compilation and the likes, ya reckon...
[00:15] <kieppie> ShadeS: sorry - run that by me quick: the TL;RD version
[00:15] <tortib> I don't know that's why I'm asking
[00:15] <CoJaBo> ..so apperently sendfile isn't very portable, even across Linux versions :/
[00:16] <YankDownUnder> tortib: Have you looked at the actual configuration files...? => ~./config & ./local ?
[00:16] <kieppie> tortib, YankDownUnder - maybe a setting buried in dconf(?)
[00:18] <kieppie> ShadeS: i f you wanna change IP form CLI, then use something like `ifconfig $INTERFACE $IPADDRESS netmask $NETMASK up`
[00:19] <kieppie> ShadeS: gnome network manager also give you option to create profiles via GUI - there's also a handy nmcli tool IINM
[00:19] <tortib> kieppie, I looked at a dconf setting that I googled and set the navigation buttons to just close but it didn't make a difference, they're still on the left side
[00:21] <kieppie> not sure it's possible then? you may have to dig into source, or install an alternative file manager
[00:22] <kieppie> brb
[00:23] <Jaga-Jaga> I want ALT_R to perform as Space button. How?
[00:29] <ddd333> what's that issue with ubuntu's wifi: antenna 1 and antenna 2? what in the actual fuck?
[00:31] <HackerII> !ohmy | ddd333
[00:32] <ddd333> HackerII: wattup
[00:32] <ddd333> shouldn't that antenna 1 and antenna 2 be transparent to the end user? is that solved in ubuntu 16.04?
[00:33] <ddd333> i meant is a generic linux problem
[00:33] <kieppie> Jaga-Jaga: xmodmap 
[00:33] <ShadeS> it's from cli x is not installed
[00:34] <ShadeS> kieppie: that seemed to work
[00:34] <kieppie> xmodmap is a CLI tool - I think you can run it (or related tool) to build the config for you in ~/.*
[00:34] <ddd333> sound used to be linux's Achilles heel. but now it's the wifi
[00:35] <ShadeS> but why do i have to do this after restarting the network services which should read from /etc/network/interfaces ??
[00:35] <Jaga-Jaga> kieppie: thx
[00:35] <kieppie> np
[00:36] <kiki_lamb> how do I start the Ubuntu  installer from a USB stick from the grub command line?
[00:36] <ddd333> why no one talks to me. Saturday night? everyone drunk?
[00:36]  * kieppie checking in again if anyone's a pro @ PXE
[00:37] <kieppie> sunday-morning in NZ - arse-end of world, so total crap-shoot if I can ever find great chat @ IRC
[00:38] <henrique_> help
[00:38] <YankDownUnder> kieppie: We're not at the "arse end" - we're at the beginning...we're in the future and all the rest of the world is behind us...hmm?
[00:39] <kieppie> don't I know it - always a day late for global memes
[00:39] <YankDownUnder> ...or a day ahead...
[00:42] <Joral> how do I check (using cli) which display is currently in use by the graphics driver?
[00:43] <kieppie> no luck today - may need to try again @ WTF-o'clock during week :(
[00:44] <ddd333> who's the Mark Shuttleworth of Debian? anyone knows?
[00:46] <ddd333> it's Mehdi Dogguy
[01:03] <Grorco> hello
[01:03] <Evan> Hey guys, I get this error when I try to SSH into a server "/bin/bash: No such file or directory. Connection to IP closed." Any way to fix this? I don't really have any other way into the box
[01:03] <reisio> 'lo Grorco
[01:04] <reisio> Evan: what's your ssh command?
[01:04] <Evan> ssh user@server
[01:04] <reisio> that's an odd error
[01:04] <reisio> what's this say? ssh user@server 'which bash; which dash'
[01:05] <Evan> /bin/bash: No such file or directory
[01:06] <Grorco> sorry this is off topic a bit, but does anyone know if there is an easy way to reverse a pydoc -w statement? I want to extract the code from the html files
[01:07] <de-facto> are there any database formats which would be cpu architecture dependent formats? (i guess none because this would be pretty inpractical for interchange and backup)
[01:08] <uxfi> hm
[01:08] <reisio> Evan: dunno how easily fixed that'll be remotely
[01:08] <reisio> Evan: how about just ssh user@server 'which dash'
[01:08] <tortib> how can I install cadence for ubuntu?
[01:09] <Evan> same thing
[01:09] <OerHeks> does ' ldd /bin/bash ' give any clue?
[01:09] <Evan> nope
[01:10] <Evan> wait 1 sec
[01:10] <Evan> nope
[01:11] <reisio> Evan: if you can get file access ("sftp", etc.), you can maybe reconfigure a few things and hope another shell installed will work
[01:11] <reisio> or, the hard way, actually fix it with only file access
[01:11] <reisio> the "simple" way is to fix from a live OS
[01:11] <Evan> what would i need to change?
[01:13] <faLUCE> I have var foo=true   how can I set it to false if  /some/dir/file  doesn't exist?
[01:15] <OerHeks> intresting answer http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/278454/bin-bash-no-such-file-or-directory-connection-closed
[01:15] <de-facto> faLUCE  [  ! -e /some/dir/file ] && export foo=false
[01:16] <de-facto> use quotes if it contains spaces "some/cool dir/file"
[01:16] <OerHeks> Evan, what did you do before this happened?
[01:16] <Evan> i have no iae
[01:17] <de-facto> boot into a rescue shell and search for /bin/bash?
[01:19] <Evan> rescue shell?
[01:19] <Evan> all i have is SSH access
[01:19] <de-facto> hmm ok can you sftp to the box? like in nautilus ssh://user@box ?
[01:19] <de-facto> then look for that file?
[01:20] <de-facto> press Ctr + L to get the input address box
[01:20] <de-facto> then enter sftp://user@host.com
[01:20] <Evan> how do i do that from a bash prompt?
[01:21] <de-facto> sftp user@box
[01:22] <Evan> nope, connection refused. i don't think it's seutp
[01:22] <de-facto> hmm dang
[01:22] <Evan> well fuck
[01:22] <de-facto> where does it run? do you have a remote vnc console from your provider maybe?
[01:23] <de-facto> for the tty to login?
[01:23] <Evan> i have no idea
[01:23] <Evan> probably, it's LINode
[01:24] <de-facto> yeah they should have a server admin console or so
[01:24] <Evan> i wouldnt even know what to fix
[01:25] <tortib> Anyone know how I can install cadence in ubuntu?
[01:25] <tortib> It's audio software
[01:27] <Guest28246> hi
[01:28] <Guest28246> who can speak russian?
[01:28] <Grorco> tortib: whats os is it for?
[01:28] <Guest28246> i don"t know
[01:29] <de-facto> Evan no idea but at your place id try to look for some options in linode manager to get access to the box. my provider provides me a VNC in html for the TTY1 from where i can login even if network is down in my box
[01:30] <de-facto> but even then its the question if you can get (or boot into) a workable shell to look for problems and fix them. you probably can try to boot from a rescue livecd chroot into your ubuntu box from that and fix stuff
[01:31] <de-facto> Evan also do you have a backup you can play back? if not, think about making one next time...
[01:31] <de-facto> i could recomment duplicity for that
[01:32] <Grorco> tortib: check out http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories
[01:32] <de-facto> with that you can make an encrypted backup offsite (e.g. to webdav or dropbox or such)
[01:33] <tortib> Grorco, ty
[01:33] <Grorco> I think it's what your looking for dl instructions there, if you click on the software tab it's listed under the apps
[01:34] <Grorco> torti: np, make sure thats what your looking for :)
[01:35] <faLUCE> thanks de-facto
[01:35] <UnKnOwN|> Evan are your mommentarily logging in the the connection closes?
[01:36] <UnKnOwN|> like do you see a MOTD or a prompt before it instantly closes?
[01:39] <Evan> nope UnKnOwN| nothing
[01:40] <de-facto> faLUCE if you look for files only you can [ ! -f /some/file ] and for dirs [ ! -d /some/dir ] "-e" means exist (so also devices and named pipes i guess)  http://linux.die.net/man/1/test
[01:41] <fadavi_> Hello, can I have Unreal Engine on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, for free?
[01:42] <calypso> wut
[01:48] <de-facto> Evan how about ssh user@host -t '/usr/bin/env bash'
[01:49] <Evan> same thing
[01:49] <Evan> this is strange
[01:49] <de-facto> what exactly do you get?
[01:49] <Evan> Connection to IP closed.
[01:49] <Evan>  /bin/bash: No such file or directory
[01:49] <Evan> Connection to IP closed.
[01:50] <de-facto> so ssh is running and responding but the shell launching fails?
[01:50] <Evan> yea
[01:52] <de-facto> Evan how about   ssh user@host -t "ls /bin"
[01:52] <UnKnOwN|> i dont know the options, but can he ssh and request no shell, but send a command to edit default shell in passwd file?
[01:52] <Evan> all the same
[01:53] <UnKnOwN|> and then restart
[01:53] <de-facto> Evan how about ssh user@host cat /etc/passwd
[01:54] <de-facto> do you get its content displayed then?
[01:54] <Evan> no
[01:54] <Evan> all no /bin/bash
[01:54] <de-facto> strange indeed
[01:54] <UnKnOwN|> oh also, using scp/sftp u can upload new ssh keys can force commands on login
[01:54] <de-facto> does not work he said
[01:54] <UnKnOwN|> can you power cylce the machine?
[01:55] <UnKnOwN|> remote ups/apc/pud?
[01:55] <UnKnOwN|> pdu*^
[01:56] <UnKnOwN|> DRAC/ILO?
[01:56] <de-facto> try with full paths maybe? like   ssh user@host /bin/cat /etc/passwd
[01:56] <UnKnOwN|> if pulls the login shell before commands are run
[01:56] <UnKnOwN|> it*^
[01:58] <de-facto> maybe his PATH is messed up? maybe the while /bin got corrupted?
[01:58] <de-facto> no idea
[01:58] <UnKnOwN|> scp/sftp a idetical passwd file with the user ur trying changed to /bin/sh and figure out or hope you can restart sshd/server or possible sshd reload periodacally?
[01:59] <UnKnOwN|> wait
[01:59] <UnKnOwN|> wouldng sshd just look at passwd every time...
[02:00] <UnKnOwN|> just scp a new passwd to whatever shell you knows on the linode install
[02:00] <de-facto> Evan said sftp/scp would not work
[02:00] <UnKnOwN|> sftp give same error?
[02:00] <Evan> sftp isn't setup AFAIK
[02:00] <UnKnOwN|> scp is ssh
[02:01] <Evan> it just says connection closed
[02:01] <UnKnOwN|> i thought sftp was done by sshd aswell
[02:01] <UnKnOwN|> k
[02:02] <UnKnOwN|> you prob need to physically visit the box, each forum topic about it seemed to end the same...
[02:02] <Evan> it's an LINode VPS
[02:02] <Evan> i have no physical access to it
[02:02] <de-facto> but why would it complain about /bin/bash missing if he just runs a command non interactively with absolute path provided to it? like ssh user@host /bin/ls /bin
[02:03] <OerHeks> try /bin/busybox ..
[02:03] <Evan> huh?
[02:04] <de-facto> Evan try "ssh user@host /bin/busybox ash"
[02:05] <Evan> nope
[02:05] <de-facto> correction "ssh user@host -t /bin/busybox ash"
[02:05] <Evan> well fuck
[02:05] <de-facto> was missing the -t
[02:06] <Evan> no
[02:08] <de-facto> ssh user@host /bin/busybox ls /bin
[02:09] <Evan> nothing is working
[02:09] <Evan> yea idk what else to do
[02:09] <de-facto> try booting from linode manager into a rescue live cd, from there try chroot into your filesystem and fix stuff
[02:10] <UnKnOwN|> Evan: telnet server 23
[02:10] <UnKnOwN|> just try
[02:10] <UnKnOwN|> run that on command line
[02:11] <UnKnOwN|> replace server with ip
[02:11] <de-facto> i never used linode hence i dont know how, but my provider has a vnc integrated into his server manager from where i can do such stuff (it displays tty1 inside an html window)
[02:12] <Evan> naw that won't work
[02:12] <de-facto> Evan what did you do between you remember it last time working and now?
[02:12] <UnKnOwN|> Evan: also run nmap again the host and see what services are running
[02:16] <china2> hi can someone please help me because I don't now if I am a victim of a intrusion or not?
[02:18] <de-facto> china2 what makes you think you are a victim of intrusion?
[02:18] <Guest46750> i port scanned myself recently and i found a lot of strange conclusions
[02:19] <Guest46750> I can't understand why I have so many op[en ports
[02:19] <UnKnOwN|> Evan: I know it sounds redundant, but its Linodes shell, try: ssh -t user@host '/bin/lish'
[02:19] <de-facto> Guest46750  "sudo netstat -tulpn"
[02:21] <Guest46750> de-facto: can I post that to a pastebin?
[02:21] <UnKnOwN|> Evan: can you grab a console from your linode web dashboard?
[02:22] <Joral> how do I check to see what connector the display driver is attempting to use?
[02:22] <de-facto> Guest46750 well if you want... ppl can see which services run on which port and your ip is seen here too though
[02:43] <UnKnOwN|> Evan: any luck?
[02:43] <Evan> no
[02:52] <djapo> how can i find the dev path in /dev for a usb device that isnt a  memory device
[02:52] <djapo> ?
[02:53] <Kenrin> I'd connect it then look at dmesg
[02:53] <Kenrin> Easiest way
[02:54] <djapo> Kenrin: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-5/1-5:1.3/0003:0D8C:000C.0008/input/input64
[02:54] <djapo> not so easy, i cant pass that path to udevadm
[02:56] <Joral> Finally got the display driver working so I can see the screen but the screen is shifted about 2-3 inches to the left.  What would cause the monitor offset and how would I fix it?
[02:58] <Kenrin> I see your point,  I really need to get up to date on systemd >.<
[03:01] <de-facto> djapo "lsusb" and "man lshw"
[03:02] <etzerd> hello all
[03:02] <etzerd> anyone here using the ubuntu mate 16.10?
[03:02] <de-facto> djapo specifically i guess lshw -class <whatever you like here>
[03:03] <de-facto> class can be something like "bus, bridge, memory, display, multimedia, network, storage, disk and volume."
[03:03] <djapo> de-facto: i found what i was looking for with udevadm info -q all -p /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-5/1-5:1.3
[03:03] <de-facto> okay :)
[03:03] <jamesd_> 41
[03:06] <Grorco> etzerd: I am
[03:07] <etzerd> does it crash on you time to time when using the menu?
[03:09] <Grorco> etzerd: No, sorry it crashes on me all the other time :) lol    I've had a lot of weird crashes, and problems with my icons moving around on the upper panel though
[03:10] <evanvarvell_> ...
[03:10] <Beladona> I cannot see this screen http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/access-grub2-boot-loader.png  I am on kubuntu LTS 16
[03:11] <Beladona> any help on how to bring it back?
[03:12] <Ben64> spam the shift key during boot
[03:12] <etzerd> Grorco: I love it. this is the only distro that works fine on my new Acer Aspire V17. but Like I said it is just crashing to much. hopefully they have an upgrade soon.
[03:13] <Ben64> etzerd: 16.10 isn't released yet, support and discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[03:13] <Kenrin> I tried using Mate on 14 and it conflicted wayy too much with other packages installed
[03:14] <etzerd> Ben64: I know
[03:14] <Grorco> etzerd: Have you tried changing window managers?
[03:14] <etzerd> how to do that?
[03:14] <Grorco> etzerd: under system, look and feel, mate-tweek
[03:16] <etzerd> ok, I did that. but it doesn't change anything.
[03:17] <Grorco> etzerd: I've been running compiz for a couple days now and no major problems, and I think it was the macro(no compositor) ran good for me too
[03:18] <Grorco> etzerd: which one did you pick?
[03:19] <Beladona> I cannot see this screen http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/access-grub2-boot-loader.png  I am on kubuntu LTS 16
[03:19] <Beladona> any help on how to bring it back?
[03:20] <etzerd> I pick UbuntuMate Panel from Mate Tweak
[03:20] <evanvarvell> ...
[03:20] <Guest87842> hi all. just killed my terminal. I would like to ask you where terminal options are stored so i can change something. As far as i understand the place it is stored has changed in 16.04
[03:21] <Guest87842> btw its gnome-terminal
[03:21] <Grorco> etzerd: click the windows button it's at the bottom
[03:22] <etzerd> from the Mate Tweak
[03:23] <Grorco> etzerd: yeah
[03:24] <etzerd> it uses Marco (software compositor)
[03:25] <Grorco> etzerd: see I think I had the most problems with that one and the compton GPU, I'm using compiz because I like the eye-candy options
[03:26] <etzerd> ok, I'm going to change it and see what happen
[03:26] <Grorco> etzerd: okay :)
[03:26] <Grorco> etzerd: ohh mine looked really weird until I hit the button
[03:28] <etzerd> grorco: I'm going to reboot now. brb
[03:29] <Guest87842> anyone knows where terminal stores profile settings/
[03:29] <Guest87842> ?
[03:37] <Joral> is there someone willing to help me configure X11?
[03:41] <djapo> is it possible to create a dummy device that is just a proxy to a real device? with its own custom ids
[03:41] <djapo> i have a usb microphone and i want to change the id vendor, product key to it, or create a fake device that has those propertiees changed
[03:49] <OreGon> hello all
[03:49] <elly-itari> hello?
[03:49] <OreGon> got a ? for ya
[03:49] <elly-itari> I'm having a problem with my resolution can anyone help?
[03:49] <OreGon> me too
[03:49] <OreGon> lol
[03:49] <elly-itari> same problem I take it...
[03:49] <OreGon> installing Nvidia driver makes all fonts super small
[03:50] <elly-itari> oh. no. different issue.
[03:50] <OreGon> need to change dpi setting
[03:50] <OreGon> in peppermint os
[03:50] <elly-itari> I'm trying to get 1920 x 1080 on it but it's not showing up in the resolution options
[03:50] <elly-itari> in 16.04 LTS
[03:50] <OreGon> unity?
[03:50] <elly-itari> ?
[03:51] <elly-itari> what unity?
[03:51] <OreGon> regular ubuntu DE
[03:51] <elly-itari> ???
[03:51] <elly-itari> I don't know?
[03:51] <elly-itari> I'm brand new to ubuntu. I got it from their download page.
[03:52] <OreGon> cool
[03:53] <elly-itari> do you think you can help?
[03:53] <OreGon> Go to System ---> Preferences ---> Display
[03:53] <elly-itari> okay
[03:54] <elly-itari> System Settings > Hardware > Displays?
[03:55] <Zhongtiao1> how do you link a button (the windows key) to the "start menu"? I'm on lxde
[03:56] <elly-itari> to be honest I don't know but my windows key opens the start menu.
[03:56] <elly-itari> but I'm on ubuntu so idk
[03:56] <Zhongtiao1> I have to manually click it. I guess it is more of an lxde question than an Ubuntu question
[03:57] <elly-itari> oh okay. sorry
[03:57] <elly-itari> ugh is no one who can help actually here...
[03:58] <Zhongtiao1> I updated from 12.04 to 14.04 today and am having this issue on Lubuntu
[03:59] <piggah> usually there is somewhere to set keyboard shortcuts but i havent used lxde in years
[03:59] <elly-itari> the same issue as me, or the one you mentioned before?
[04:00] <elly-itari> I guess I'll restate my problem
[04:00] <Zhongtiao1> I've found it, but how do I link to the start menu?
[04:01] <phiona> im on Lubuntu. i did nothing. its just automatic.
[04:01] <P1scis> exit
[04:02] <elly-itari> My resolution is currently set to 1360x768, but my native monitor resolution is 1920x1080, and it's not showing up in the resolution options. I'm brand new to Ubuntu, and I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
[04:03] <deceit> holy balls
[04:04] <elly-itari> ...
[04:05] <drama> elly-itari, try Ctl-Alt- - (minus sign)
[04:05] <drama> a couple of times
[04:05] <Zhongtiao1> if i link the windows key to exit, it will show the start menu?
[04:05] <elly-itari> umm nothing seemed to happen..
[04:06] <elly-itari> I guess I should mention that when I installed ubuntu, I had to use the command line to add nomodeset to get it to display.
[04:06] <elly-itari> if i didn't it always gave me an "Input not supported" message.
[04:11] <Grorco> Zhongtiail: look here ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[04:12] <Grorco> Zhongtiail: should be alt+ f1 right now
[04:13] <drama> Zhongtiao1, Ctl-ESC
[04:15] <eirjgoienrgieng> Does anyone here use the ASUS STRIX RAID DLX (or any of the recent STRIX sound cards) with Ubuntu?
[04:16] <elly-itari> @drama what does ctrl alt minus do?
[04:16] <drama> nothing for me.. that i can see
[04:17] <drama> lubuntu 16.04
[04:18] <elly-itari> oh.
[04:19] <elly-itari> um.
[04:19] <elly-itari> okay...
[04:24] <elly-itari> My resolution is currently set to 1360x768, but my native monitor resolution is 1920x1080, and it's not showing up in the resolution options. I'm brand new to Ubuntu, and I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. I installed it like 2 days ago, and I had to use nomodeset otherwise I would get an "input not supported" error, but idk if that's significant or not.
[04:25] <chinhpro> Hello
[04:25] <elly-itari> hi
[04:25] <chinhpro> what is your name ?
[04:25] <chinhpro> ^^
[04:26] <chinhpro> i am newbie :D
[04:26] <chinhpro> >>.>>
[04:26] <chinhpro> <<.<<
[04:26] <drama> i am doug.. hi newbie
[04:26] <chinhpro> :D
[04:27] <chinhpro> where are u from?
[04:27] <elly-itari> I'm Elly.
[04:27] <chinhpro> hi ^^
[04:27] <Zhongtiao1> So, how do I change the ctrl-esc to the windows key?
[04:27] <elly-itari> @Drama do you know what I can do to fix my problem?
[04:27] <chinhpro> i am from in VietNam :D
[04:27] <drama> Zhongtiao1,  it should work already
[04:27] <chinhpro> :>>
[04:27] <Zhongtiao1> It is set as ctrl-esc
[04:28] <Zhongtiao1> I want it to work on windows key
[04:28] <chinhpro> exit
[04:29] <drama> elly-itari, apt-cache show x11-xserver-utils
[04:30] <drama> elly-itari, I used to use xvidtune ymmv
[04:30] <elly-itari> n: unable to locate package
[04:30] <elly-itari> e: no packages found
[04:31] <eirjgoienrgieng> elly-itari, what GPU is in your system?
[04:31] <drama> elly-itari, you need more repos
[04:31] <drama> sudo apt-get update and try again
[04:31] <drama> elly-itari, that's a good question ^^
[04:32] <elly-itari> uh gpu is geforce gtx 960 or something
[04:32] <Guest87842> i changed something in gnome terminal profiles and now when i start terminal it enters a loop
[04:33] <eirjgoienrgieng> elly-itari, by default the free software nouveau driver is loaded, which sadly does not provide great support due to NVIDIA not being helpful with hardware documentation.
[04:33] <eirjgoienrgieng> elly-itari, you need to install the nvidia-driver package and then reboot.
[04:33] <elly-itari> I changed it to the um
[04:33] <elly-itari> thingy
[04:33] <Guest87842> i purged terminal and reinstalled it but the problem persists
[04:33] <elly-itari> once before
[04:33] <elly-itari> I had to do that to install steam fsr
[04:33] <Guest87842> all i wanna know is where are the profile settings stored for terminal
[04:33] <Guest87842> or how to revert to the default
[04:33] <eirjgoienrgieng> elly-itari what distribution are you using?
[04:33] <elly-itari> distribution? um
[04:33] <elly-itari> oh
[04:33] <elly-itari> evga
[04:34] <eirjgoienrgieng> Which GNU/Linux OS and version?
[04:34] <elly-itari> OH
[04:34] <eirjgoienrgieng> Ubuntu 16.04?
[04:34] <elly-itari> ubuntu 16.04 lts
[04:34] <eirjgoienrgieng> Ok look in your applications for something called Driver Manager
[04:34] <OerHeks> ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles
[04:34] <eirjgoienrgieng> Or somethingf in regards to driver.
[04:34] <eirjgoienrgieng> Do you find it?
[04:34] <elly-itari> I have uh
[04:34] <elly-itari> additional drivers
[04:34] <eirjgoienrgieng> Yes.
[04:35] <eirjgoienrgieng> Open it, and there should be an NVIDIA section.
[04:35] <eirjgoienrgieng> nouveau should be ticked, but there should be proprietary NVIDIA driver in there. You want to tick that and apply.
[04:35] <elly-itari> nvidia corporation?
[04:35] <eirjgoienrgieng> Then reboot, and you should be fine, nomodeset is no longer required.
[04:35] <eirjgoienrgieng> Yes.
[04:35] <elly-itari> like I said I'm already using the nvidia-361
[04:35] <eirjgoienrgieng> When the nouveau free driver matures more (hopefully with the help of NVIDIA), you do not have to do this any more in the future.
[04:35] <elly-itari> wait
[04:35] <elly-itari> how do I turn off nomodeset
[04:36] <eirjgoienrgieng> You simply do not add it into the GRUB launch option.
[04:36] <eirjgoienrgieng> When you boot.
[04:36] <eirjgoienrgieng> Where did you add nomodeset?
[04:36] <elly-itari> when I installed ubuntu
[04:36] <eirjgoienrgieng> You usually add something like that in the GRUB boot menu.
[04:37] <eirjgoienrgieng> Which you need to do every time.
[04:37] <eirjgoienrgieng> Unless you modify some files.
[04:37] <elly-itari> I couldn't install it without using nomodeset
[04:37] <eirjgoienrgieng> Where did you enter nomodeset?
[04:37] <eirjgoienrgieng> How did you activate it?
[04:37] <elly-itari> because I'd get an error screen saying input not supported
[04:37] <eirjgoienrgieng> Did the setup provide an option for it?
[04:37] <elly-itari> sortof.
[04:37] <eirjgoienrgieng> Well it only applies during the installer.
[04:37] <elly-itari> I used e to edit the command line.
[04:37] <eirjgoienrgieng> nomodeset is not set unless you specifically modify files to have it on permanently.
[04:37] <eirjgoienrgieng> Yes.
[04:37] <eirjgoienrgieng> That makes it temporary.
[04:38] <elly-itari> oh.
[04:38] <elly-itari> so it's already off?
[04:38] <elly-itari> okay.
[04:38] <Zhongtiao1> drama: changing c-escape to exit doesn't work
[04:38] <elly-itari> originally after I installed it, I only had 1 resolution option
[04:38] <elly-itari> now I have 4 but none of them are the right one.
[04:39] <eirjgoienrgieng> elly-itari type this in a terminal and share the output: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[04:39] <elly-itari> elly@elly-desktop:~$ lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' 	Kernel driver in use: nvidia 	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
[04:39] <eirjgoienrgieng> Are you on a laptop?
[04:39] <elly-itari> no
[04:39] <eirjgoienrgieng> Ok.
[04:40] <eirjgoienrgieng> Type xrandr in a terminal now.
[04:40] <eirjgoienrgieng> xrandr will display the resolution modes available currently.
[04:40] <elly-itari> ok
[04:40] <eirjgoienrgieng> Does xrandr show a 1920x1080 option?
[04:40] <elly-itari> no
[04:40] <eirjgoienrgieng> What have you done so far to try to fix this?
[04:40] <drama> Zhongtiao1, it worked in my 16.04 lubuntu without changing anything
[04:40] <elly-itari> I used the internet to see what I can do but to be honest I don't know what any of it does
[04:41] <elly-itari> I'm literally brand new to ubuntu
[04:41] <eirjgoienrgieng> Normally if you just install Ubuntu, use nomodeset if you can not boot in, then install the NVIDIA driver and afterwards no longer use nomodeset on boot, things should work fine.
[04:41] <elly-itari> hm..
[04:41] <elly-itari> well the odd thing is
[04:41] <elly-itari> I only had to use nomodeset on install
[04:41] <elly-itari> so I kinda just assumed it never went away
[04:41] <eirjgoienrgieng> Nope, you need to set it each time specifically in the e grub thing.
[04:42] <elly-itari> oh. I never got that menu
[04:42] <elly-itari> it just booted .
[04:42] <eirjgoienrgieng> After you installed the NVIDIA driver, did you reboot?
[04:42] <drama> Zhongtiao1, who knows.. it was an upgrade from 15.10 and my desktop splash screen didn't change so who knows
[04:42] <elly-itari> yes.
[04:42] <elly-itari> actually, I did that because that was how I had to install steam.
[04:42] <drama> that's why it has a tight resolution
[04:43] <drama> nvidia-settings --query all | grep -i resolution
[04:43] <elly-itari> ...?
[04:43] <drama> nvidia-settings --help
[04:43] <eirjgoienrgieng> elly-itari I recommend you uninstall the NVIDIA driver (by switching back to nouveau).
[04:43] <eirjgoienrgieng> Then rebooting, and reinstalling it.
[04:43] <eirjgoienrgieng> Then reboot again.
[04:43] <elly-itari> by switching back to it?
[04:43] <eirjgoienrgieng> Yes.
[04:44] <elly-itari> alright.
[04:44] <profeta> esto que?
[04:44] <elly-itari> I'm gonna try a regular reboot first to see if it fixes
[04:44] <elly-itari> I'll be back and let you know the results
[04:44] <profeta> que hacen?
[04:44] <profeta> alguien habla español?
[04:45] <drama> !es profeta
[04:45] <eirjgoienrgieng> Ok.
[04:45] <profeta> hola drama
[04:45] <drama> !spanish | profeta
[04:45] <profeta> gracias amigo
[04:47] <drama> bueno
[04:48] <thetrav> http://cdn.pasteraw.com/audikfm0zyh8piorruuoismlc9bapxj
[04:48] <thetrav> so I've got this bridge definition
[04:48] <thetrav> the bridge is coming up, however it's not getting an address or respecting the MTU
[04:48] <thetrav> have I done something wrong?
[04:52] <cspack> thetrav: you might want to ask in ##networking
[04:52] <thetrav> cheers
[04:54] <vbotka> thetrav, "pre-up" works for me. For example "pre-up ip addr add 192.168.1.10/24 dev xenbr0"
[04:54] <thetrav> oh?
[04:54] <thetrav> how curious
[04:55] <Zhongtiao1> How do I set the windows button only to the start menu?
[04:55] <jump> Can my computer run ubuntu? https://postimg.org/image/gaqn8kl07/
[04:55] <Zhongtiao1> I've tried W- as well
[04:55] <Zhongtiao1> jump: I'm running on a pentium 4 with 512mb of RAM
[04:58] <Zhongtiao1> anyone?
[04:59] <eirjgoienrgieng> hi elly-itari
[04:59] <elly-itari> hi so
[04:59] <elly-itari> it didn't change anything.
[04:59] <elly-itari> still no 1920x1080 option
[05:00] <eirjgoienrgieng> Did you reinstall?
[05:00] <elly-itari> yes
[05:00] <sponix> 800x600 is what you want anyway !
[05:00] <elly-itari> I uninstalled by switching like you said
[05:00] <elly-itari> then I rebooted
[05:00] <elly-itari> then I reinstalled by switching back to nvidia
[05:00] <eirjgoienrgieng> Have you tried fiddling around in the NVIDIA control panel?
[05:00] <elly-itari> then I rebooted
[05:00] <elly-itari> no
[05:00] <eirjgoienrgieng> Look for nvidia inn your applications.
[05:01] <elly-itari> I opened it
[05:03] <eirjgoienrgieng> Just try to look around in it.
[05:03] <elly-itari> uh
[05:03] <eirjgoienrgieng> There should be some display settings with resolution stuff.
[05:03] <elly-itari> I looked at them but none of them helped
[05:03] <elly-itari> so I went into advanced
[05:04] <elly-itari> and I changed viewportin option
[05:04] <eirjgoienrgieng> And? ;o
[05:05] <eirjgoienrgieng> Did yuo fix it?
[05:05] <Zhongtiao1> I got mine to work
[05:05] <Zhongtiao1> changed the keybinding to super_l
[05:06] <elly-itari> no um
[05:07] <elly-itari> I tried to force it to 1920 but it didn't really work the way I wanted...
[05:07] <eirjgoienrgieng> elly-itari: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2263316
[05:07] <thetrav> so i put all my interfaces in bridges and now lost the default gateway...  how do i set it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[05:09] <elly-itari> I'll give it a read.
[05:10] <jump> sudo nano etc/network/interfaces
[05:11] <sponix> nano is weak
[05:11] <jump> gets the job done
[05:11] <jump> does not need a 100 hotkeys to do a simple edit
[05:12] <nthrow> fuck nano
[05:12] <OerHeks> !language | nthrow
[05:12] <nthrow> i am quite calm thank you
[05:21] <thetrav> so umm, if you're finished fighting over text editors...  I know the file, I don't know what to put in it
[05:22] <thetrav> In fact I've also noticed that I don't even have a route for the bridge
[05:22] <thetrav> quite odd
[05:22] <yigal> thetrav: hmm, I'm sorry I don' know what the problem is as I just ventured into this channel, would you mind reposting?
[05:22] <thetrav> so I put all my interfaces into bridges for ... reasons ...
[05:23] <thetrav> and now I have no default gateway
[05:23] <yigal> well as long as you have an internet connection you should be fine, :)
[05:23] <thetrav> how do I set the default gateway via the /etc/network/interfaces file ?
[05:23] <thetrav> umm
[05:23] <thetrav> not without a gateway I don't
[05:23] <thetrav> the box doesn't know how to route the packets
[05:24] <yigal> thetrav: it's going to be for each NIC, so in the /etc/interfaces or /etc/interfaces.d/<NIC FIle> you'll set 'gateway <IP>'
[05:25] <thetrav> so setting the gateway for the interface will work for the bridge?
[05:25] <thetrav> ok rad
[05:25] <yigal> thetrav: it should, as stated above I don't know the initial question asked
[05:25] <thetrav> i restated it for you
[05:26] <thetrav> put my interfaces into bridges
[05:26] <yigal> thetrav: are you making a KVM environment?
[05:26] <thetrav> the bridge ignores the gateway setting
[05:26] <thetrav> I am setting up some openstack hosts
[05:26] <jump> do you set it to static?
[05:27] <thetrav> it?
[05:27] <yigal> thetrav: nice, and have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[05:27] <thetrav> yes and no
[05:27] <yigal> thetrav: also, Neutron is a challenge no matter how you try to deal with it
[05:27] <thetrav> I know about bonding
[05:27] <thetrav> this is not neutron yet
[05:28] <thetrav> bonding is not happening in this setup
[05:28] <thetrav> when i have it worked out i will have 40gb links
[05:28] <thetrav> funny story though
[05:28] <thetrav> they ordered the switch, but not the cards for the servers
[05:29] <thetrav> so I'm trying to get by on 1gb links to set things up
[05:29] <yigal> thetrav: I don't know the exact issue, but default gateway should work through setting it in the bonding NIC so I'd start checking logs for why it isn't
[05:29] <yigal> thetrav: looks like a nice setup, plenty of potential :)
[05:30] <yigal> thetrav: I was really interested in studying Neutron but keeping up with development is too much with a real job, lol
[05:30] <thetrav> it's part of my job
[05:31] <yigal> thetrav: sure, I was working for a Cloud provider that was using OpenStack I'm glad I left :P
[05:31] <yigal> but no doubt a huge amount of potential
[05:31] <thetrav> I'm working for a Telco
[05:32] <thetrav> Neutron in and of itself isn't actually all that interesting
[05:32] <thetrav> it's just an orchestrator
[05:32] <yigal> thetrav: yes, but how to deal reasonably well with a massive cluster is always interesting, at least to me
[05:35] <vbotka> thetrav, "post-up" works for me too. For example "post-up ip route add 192.168.1.11/32 via 192.168.1.10 dev xenbr0"
[05:35] <yigal> thetrav: if you're sure your configuration is correct I'd start getting ready to file a bug report against the kernel of the server you're using
[05:36] <yigal> s/using/configuring/
[05:37] <OreGon> anyone know how to fix the dpi setting after installing nvidia drivers in peppermint os?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> OreGon: we can only support ubuntu here mate
[05:38] <OreGon> fonts are tiny
[05:38] <OreGon> oops sorry
[05:38] <yigal> OreGon: no worries my elf friend
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> OreGon: perhaps seek support on their irc chat/forum?
[05:38] <yigal> lotuspsychje: he's gone
[05:38] <yigal> :)
[05:41] <thetrav> @yigal I'm certain my configuration is not correct, however I struggle to find documentation on how I should have it
[05:42] <Guest74242> i have a problem
[05:43] <Guest74242> when i try to udate it shows a lot of error
[05:43] <Guest74242> anybody can help me
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> Guest74242: what kind of errors
[05:44] <Guest74242> W: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kilian/f.lux/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file. N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kilian/f.lux/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found E: Some index fil
[05:44] <yigal> Guest74242: can you provide the error output in a pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:45] <yigal>  Guest74242 ok this is because you're using a random PPA that appears to not have a 16.04 release
[05:45] <Guest74242> how can I remove
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> Guest74242: remove all external ppa's with ppapurge and atp update again
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | Guest74242
[05:45] <yigal> Guest74242: well yes and no, be  careful if you actually need a PPA due to the hardware you're using you may want to think twice about upgrading
[05:47] <elly-itari> @eirjgoienrgieng After reboot get correct nvidia-driver (chose graphic-card and OS) at “http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us" (or search webb with “nvidia download”). Right-click on downloaded file and change if to executable.
[05:47] <Guest74242> when i try to install ppa-purge now its shows
[05:47] <Guest74242> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge sudo: unable to resolve host localhost.localdomain Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  gnupg2 : Depends: gnupg-agent (= 2.1.11-6ubuntu2) E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[05:47] <elly-itari> what does that last bit mean?
[05:48] <Guest74242> I am just normal user
[05:49] <OerHeks> just remove it from your sources, it never installed any package so safe to disable in the gui
[05:49] <AndChat393204> hi .. i have a virus that lock apt when start and changes the bios settings! It corrupts my laptop .. how can i detecet this virus and delete it
[05:49] <Guest74242> how can I remove it please provide terminal code
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> AndChat393204: apt doesnt have virusses
[05:50] <yigal> AndChat393204: that's amazing my friend, truly interesting
[05:50] <OerHeks> Guest74242, no need for terminal, use sofwarecenter > edit > sources
[05:50] <yigal> AndChat393204: when you attempt to do a 'sudo apt-get upgrade' what happens?
[05:50] <eonumbreon> AndChat393204 it updates your software from the repos
[05:50] <yigal> Guest74242: yes, if you're unfamiliar with the terminal don't confuse yourself
[05:51] <AndChat393204> it's locked by other process
[05:51] <eonumbreon> If there was a virus, everyone would have it
[05:51] <Guest74242> this happende when I yse upgrade
[05:51] <Guest74242> popson@localhost:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade sudo: unable to resolve host localhost.localdomain Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies:  gnupg2 : Depends: gnupg-agent (= 2.1.11-6ubuntu2) E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[05:51] <AndChat393204> even though i just start the laptop
[05:51] <eonumbreon> Try reinstalling the OS
[05:52] <yigal> Guest74242: there are multiple issues, what happens when you run 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[05:52] <eonumbreon> Or running ClamAV
[05:52] <AndChat393204> ok so what it is .. bios settings are changing!
[05:52] <elly-itari> um
[05:52] <OerHeks> AndChat393204, sounds more like an empty bios battery to me..
[05:52] <eonumbreon> ^^
[05:52] <elly-itari> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2263316
[05:52] <elly-itari> so in this guide
[05:52] <elly-itari> how do I change it to an executable from the right click menu
[05:52] <elly-itari> I tried renaming it to a .deb but that didn't seem to do anything. :|
[05:53] <AndChat393204> I checked the battery with avo .. it's ok
[05:53] <eonumbreon> The CMOS battery?
[05:53] <yigal> elly-itari: if you're going to run the Nvidia binary installer then do it from the cli
[05:53] <AndChat393204> Yes
[05:53] <yigal> elly-itari: but don't, if you can help it
[05:53] <Guest74242> dpkg: error processing package gconf2 (--configure):  dependency problems - leaving triggers unprocessed No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already                                                               dpkg: dependency problems prevent processing triggers for gconf2:  gconf2 depends on libxml2 (>= 2.7.4); however:   Package libxml2:amd64 is not configured yet.  gconf2 depends on python3:any; however:  
[05:54] <eonumbreon> Apt wouldnt have viruses. Otherwise we would all have it. It is more likely you visited a dodgy website and caught it.
[05:54] <Guest74242> list goes on yigal
[05:54] <elly-itari> @yigal I don't... know what I'm doing
[05:54] <Guest74242> software centre is not pening
[05:54] <Guest74242> *opening
[05:54] <elly-itari> I don'g know what the nvidia binary installer is or what cli is.
[05:54] <AndChat393204> it's not apt .. something using it
[05:55] <OerHeks> AndChat393204, and what setting exactly changes?
[05:55] <eonumbreon> what message do you get? Cant you just delete the lock
[05:55] <yigal> AndChat393204: or even kill the process
[05:55] <yigal> AndChat393204: which should clear the lock, even uncleanly
[05:56] <eonumbreon> Debatable.
[05:56] <AndChat393204> Ufmi or something like this .. it corrupting my laptop .. i fixed it three times because it became dead
[05:56] <OerHeks> .. uefi ?
[05:56] <elly-itari> @yigal I'm trying to fix my screen's resolution to be 1920x1080
[05:56] <yigal> AndChat393204: can you pastebin a 'ps aufx'?
[05:56] <AndChat393204> Yes i can delete the lock .. but laptop wont start again ..
[05:57] <OerHeks> uefi secure boot i guess
[05:57] <eonumbreon> UFEI is just littered with problems. Cant you just try using CSM?
[05:57] <AndChat393204> Yes uefi
[05:57] <eonumbreon> I can never get UFEI to work ._.
[05:57] <OerHeks> pretty good guide...
[05:57] <OerHeks> !uefi
[05:58] <eonumbreon> ^^
[05:58] <OerHeks> you just need to make a 100 mb partition, etc
[05:58] <OerHeks> or maybe it is already there.
[05:58] <AndChat393204> Yes right .. i will reinstall the system but i'm afraid it will happen again
[05:59] <Joral> AndChat393204, secureboot basically uses a checksum to ensure that the kernel that is booting matches its signature, you should be able to disable secure boot in the uefi/bios menu
[05:59] <Guest74242> ji
[05:59] <eonumbreon> ^^^ try not using ufei
[05:59] <OerHeks> uefi could work just fine.
[05:59] <AndChat393204> i mean settings are changing automatically
[05:59] <Grorco> I had to disable it
[05:59] <Guest74242> popson@localhost:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:THE_PPA sudo: unable to resolve host localhost.localdomain [sudo] password for popson:  Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/add-apt-repository", line 95, in <module>     sp = SoftwareProperties(options=options)   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 109, in __init__     self.reload_sourceslist()   File "/usr/lib/python3
[05:59] <AndChat393204> in the bios
[06:00] <Joral> eonumbreon, some motherboards do not offer legacy bios emulation.
[06:00] <Guest74242> i do not know which ppa should remove
[06:00] <eonumbreon> Joral really?
[06:00] <OerHeks> Guest74242, no need for terminal, use sofwarecenter > edit > sources
[06:00] <eonumbreon> TIL
[06:00] <Guest74242> i tried to install kali tools on my lap after that this error stats to pop up
[06:00] <elly-itari> sight
[06:00] <OerHeks> Guest74242, oh, time to reinstall
[06:00] <Guest74242> oerheks : i cannot access software center ; its not opening
[06:01] <Grorco> could it be the actual localhost file?
[06:01] <Joral> eonumbreon, the win8/win10 COTS computers don't even have the option anymore since windows8 had the requirement of UEFI
[06:01] <Joral> I got lucky with my HP because win7 was still an option for this model
[06:02] <Guest74242> so there is no way
[06:02] <AndChat393204> ok i'm leaving .. but just notice that there are viruses now for ubuntu ..
[06:02] <Grorco> can you make a new user?
[06:02] <drama> AndChat393204, how can I get one and does it cost extra?
[06:02] <OerHeks> !fud | AndChat393204 .. read the uefi manual
[06:03] <Grorco> Joral: Me too
[06:04] <eonumbreon> What are these bots programmed using?
[06:04] <jenenliu> hi guys, what window manager do you use, or just use GNOME/KDE ?
[06:04] <Joral> OerHeks, I hope that wasn't based on my statements. If thats the way I came accrossed I wan't to clarify that my intention was to simply state that for some systems the "don't use uefi" approach is not a viable approach.
[06:05] <Blue1> depends - everyday is KDE
[06:05] <eonumbreon> Jenenlui I use MATE
[06:05] <Blue1> i am playing with gnome -- still deciding
[06:06] <OerHeks> only 32 bit systems give issues, and a few machines that do not follow the uefi specs. i was not certain he had such issue
[06:06] <jenenliu> I want to try tilling window manager, but still use a DE
[06:06] <OerHeks> Joral ^
[06:08] <Joral> OerHeks, It sounded to me like a secureboot issue, I hope he caught that secureboot is a separate component that from UEFI.  That is how I got UEFI working is by simply allowing any kernel to boot
[06:08] <eonumbreon> SecureBoot is annoying
[06:09] <Blue1> how does secureboot differ from grub2?  What features does it offer?
[06:09] <eonumbreon> It is not the same thing
[06:09] <elbo22> my ethernet and wifi arent working
[06:09] <elbo22> http://kopy.io/4yKch
[06:09] <elbo22> this is the lspci
[06:09] <elbo22> any ideas where to start?
[06:10] <eonumbreon> !secureboot
[06:10] <Grorco> :)
[06:10] <eonumbreon> !grub
[06:10] <Blue1> elbo22: private message ok?
[06:10] <ducasse> jenenliu: there are tiling extensions for gnome at least, maybe kde also.
[06:11] <eonumbreon> Do you find KDE is a bit buggy still?
[06:11] <Blue1> eonumbreon: not at all --
[06:11] <elbo22> sure Blue1
[06:11] <jenenliu> ducasse: really? what is the name of default ubuntu desktop envirenment
[06:11] <Grorco> elbo22: did you install updates and drivers already?
[06:12] <jenenliu> I don't use KDE or gnome
[06:12] <ducasse> jenenliu: unity
[06:12] <eonumbreon> I might try it agaib then
[06:12] <elbo22> Grorco: this is following an upgrade
[06:12] <eonumbreon> Unity
[06:12] <elly-itari> um okay so @eirjgoienrgieng it... didn't really work
[06:12] <Joral> eonumbreon, it can certainly be annoying, but for what it is it provides a great service.  For OEM's their target audience is quickly becoming grandmas touchsreen windows 8 machine, or enterprise secure thin clients. in both cases the ability to ensure that a third party kernel does not get installed and loaded at reboot is a very good thing
[06:12] <elly-itari> can anyone else help me?
[06:13] <Grorco> elbo22: k my internets stuipid I'm still trying to load your page :(
[06:13] <jenenliu> yep, unity, is there tilling extension for unity ?
[06:13] <elly-itari> can anyone help me? I'm trying to get my resolution to 1920x1080 but it's not in the display options.
[06:13] <defekt> !botsnack
[06:13] <ducasse> JakesDen: talk to the guys in #freenode i know of
[06:14] <ducasse> jenenliu: not that i know of
[06:14] <Grorco> elbo22: what card do you have?
[06:15] <elbo22> im not sure, its part of my motherboard
[06:15] <jenenliu> ducasse: i see, thanks
[06:16] <Joral> wow, i can't count the number of times ive seen the botsnack and I just now caught the but in the response.
[06:16] <eonumbreon> What does it do?
[06:16] <ducasse> jenenliu: if you switch to gnome, look for the extension 'shellshape'.
[06:16] <Grorco> elbo22: it should tell you in your drivers
[06:16] <Joral> eonumbreon, who were you talking too?
[06:16] <jenenliu> ducasse: do you like playing with gnome ?
[06:17] <elly-itari> please please help me...
[06:17] <eonumbreon> The botsnack commandlet
[06:17] <ducasse> jenenliu: i don't use gnome, i use i3
[06:17] <elbo22> Grorco: lspci ?
[06:17] <Joral> eonumbreon, it just makes the bot echo that response
[06:17] <eonumbreon> Joral oh ok? Just an easter egg then?
[06:18] <defekt> but he does get hungry
[06:18] <Joral> worst part is I started with rh9 so I should have caught that a long time ago lol
[06:18] <eonumbreon> Oh i just got what it meant
[06:19] <defekt> :D
[06:19] <eonumbreon> #slow
[06:20] <elly-itari> ...
[06:21] <Joral> elly-itari, I'm no expert but in my experience if a resolution does not appear as an option it means that either the card or the driver does not support that resolution
[06:22] <jenenliu> ducasse: i3 is one of my choices
[06:22] <elly-itari> well how do I change the driver then?
[06:23] <jenenliu> ducasse: and the haskell one, I just can't remember the name, do you just try i3 and then use it?
[06:23] <OerHeks> elly-itari, have you tried to reset the monitor itself with its own buttons?
[06:23] <elly-itari> reset?
[06:24] <ducasse> jenenliu: i tried i3, awesome and a couple others, and liked i3 best.
[06:25] <Grorco> elbo22: Sorry I need to try to restart my internet :( but yes it should be under network-controller I'll hopefully be back in a minute
[06:25] <elly-itari> well I just did but it kinda just bandaided the issue...
[06:25] <elly-itari> it's not bona fide 1920x1080 resolution.
[06:26] <jenenliu> what kind of features of i3 that makes you choose it ?
[06:26] <jenenliu> ducasse:
[06:26] <Joral> elly-itari, https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/946180/linux/ubuntu-how-to-use-nvidia-drivers-/
[06:27] <Joral> elly-itari, I don't know that I would recommend the proprietary nvidia driver but that thread tells you how if you want to take that risk
[06:27] <ducasse> jenenliu: just liked the way it works, and it's easy to configure.
[06:27] <Ben64> elly-itari: what driver are you running now?
[06:27] <OerHeks> use the official ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa if you *need* better drivers, not the .run file
[06:28] <OerHeks> but resoluion changed, that is a start
[06:28] <Joral> OerHeks, that thread covered the PPA, I made sure of it :P
[06:29] <elly-itari> Ben64: When I started, I was using the nvidia proprietary driver thingy that's in the drivers menu. (not nouveau)
[06:29] <elly-itari> I'm currently on nouveau because I've been trying to follow the instructions of people who failed to help.
[06:29] <Ben64> well nouveau isn't what you want for optimal performance
[06:29] <elly-itari> obviously
[06:30] <elly-itari> But the driver I was using before didn't solve the issue either.
[06:30] <Ben64> because the problem isn't the driver
[06:30] <Joral> elly-itari, what graphics card do you have?
[06:30] <OerHeks> now the reset did something, good chance the driver will work better now
[06:30] <elly-itari> Joral: evga geforce gtx 960
[06:31] <OerHeks> be logical.
[06:31] <Ben64> i'm putting my money on the problem being bad edid from the monitor
[06:31] <elly-itari> edid?
[06:31] <Ben64> it's how the monitor tells the gpu what resolutions it can support
[06:32] <Ben64> get back on the nvidia driver and we can continue
[06:32] <jenenliu> ducasse: ok, thanks, I think I'll try some of them too
[06:32] <elly-itari> ok
[06:32] <hispeed67> i have an ubuntu installation on /dev/sda on a laptop that i want to clone to a new hard drive, but i also want to change the filesystem... i.e. it's installed on ext4, i want to use btrfs
[06:32] <hispeed67> what do you guys think the best/easiest/fastest way to do it is?
[06:34] <OerHeks> hispeed67, backup and re-install
[06:35] <hispeed67> full backup, swap drive, fresh install, full restore??
[06:35] <Joral> elly-itari, what monitor do you have?
[06:35] <Joral> hispeed67, yes that would be the best
[06:36] <OerHeks> !clone
[06:38] <hispeed67> clone is pkg selection, it won't catch source code i've installed and compiled.. i.e. /home dir
[06:39] <Sookie> heya anyone know resinator in here?
[06:39] <Sookie> aka Mitch
[06:39] <elly-itari> alright I'm on the nvidia driver
[06:40] <elly-itari> the only 16:9 resolution available to me is 1360x768
[06:40] <Ben64> elly-itari: type this on the terminal, and give the url here "xrandr | nc termbin.com 9999"
[06:41] <elly-itari> http://termbin.com/5kza
[06:41] <UnKnOwN|> set a termbin alias aswell ;-) i love mine...
[06:41] <hispeed67> wait.. there has to be a better way.. i can put them both in same computer and tar from one drive to the other..
[06:41] <Ben64> just as i suspected...
[06:42] <elly-itari> ?
[06:42] <Ben64> elly-itari: what monitor? how is it connected?
[06:42] <elly-itari> it's connected through a dvi adapter into the graphics card. why?
[06:42] <Ben64> dvi to vga?
[06:42] <elly-itari> probably?
[06:42] <elly-itari> er wait
[06:42] <elly-itari> other way around.
[06:42] <elly-itari> idk
[06:43] <Ben64> well, can you use an actual dvi the whole way, or hdmi, or displayport?
[06:43] <Ben64> you'd get a much better image and it'd work at 1920x1080
[06:43] <elly-itari> I'm not sure what you mean.
[06:43] <elly-itari> if I had an actual dvi cable I could. :/
[06:44] <Ben64> so... get one :D
[06:44] <elly-itari> :Y
[06:44] <tortib> Is there a session saver for gnome that will remember my applications that are opened and window position?
[06:44] <elly-itari> and what happens when I get one and the issue isn't fixed?
[06:45] <Ben64> what monitor is it
[06:45] <elly-itari> aoc something
[06:46] <Ben64> then it'll work on dvi-d
[06:46] <elly-itari> what does that mean
[06:46] <Ben64> d is digital
[06:46] <elly-itari> which means what
[06:46] <elly-itari> like
[06:46] <elly-itari> why will it work on dvi-d
[06:46] <Ben64> the xrandr output you posted shows it using dvi-i, which is analog
[06:47] <elly-itari> meh..
[06:48] <elly-itari> I don't get it.
[06:48] <Joral> vga is the bottleneck, it wont allow a fast enough connection to the monitor to support that high of a resolution
[06:48] <elly-itari> why would it be analog if it's plugged into the dvi port
[06:48] <elly-itari> what does it mean that it's analog
[06:48] <elly-itari> and why is that significant
[06:48] <Ben64> Joral: not true
[06:48] <Joral> vga is analog and your using a vga adapter which disables the digital component
[06:49] <Ben64> vga can do high resolutions, it just sucks
[06:49] <elly-itari> my boyfriend has the same setup
[06:49] <elly-itari> and his runs 1080p
[06:49] <elly-itari> but he has windows.
[06:49] <Ben64> good for him, one up him by going digital
[06:50] <elly-itari> ..
[06:50] <elly-itari> well we have another option.
[06:50] <Ben64> http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=2408
[06:50] <elly-itari> I can try to plug my computer into my tv (hdmi) and see if that changes anything.
[06:50] <Ben64> less than $6
[06:50] <Ben64> pretty sure i mentioned using hdmi earlier too
[06:51] <elly-itari> you mentioned using hdmi, but it's a tv.
[06:51] <elly-itari> not the same monitor.
[06:51] <elly-itari> my monitor doesn't have hdmi support afaik
[06:51] <Ben64> some tv's supply wonky edid too, notably visio
[06:52] <elly-itari> idk what kind of tv it is tbh
[06:52] <Joral> Ben64, would you be willing to help me address my vga setup when your wrapped up with this?
[06:52] <elly-itari> samsung.
[06:52] <elly-itari> it's pretty big.
[06:52] <elly-itari> anyway brb, moving comp
[06:53] <Ben64> Joral: ask your question to the channel
[06:58] <Joral> I have an emac with integrated radeon 9200 (rv280), it boots to a blank screen unless I pass 'video=VGA-1:1024x768@89' at boot.  When it does boot like this the screen is shifted left and the system becomes extremely unstable.  From ssh I was able to discover that Xorg.log says "output vga-0 has no monitor section" and its probing the resolution modes at 20hz lower than the monitor is rated.
[07:04] <elly-itari> so you were right
[07:05] <elly-itari> upon further inspection of my monitor's options, it is in fact locked to 1280x768
[07:05] <elly-itari> thanks for the help
[07:08] <ziggyfish> Hi, I am trying to run a script that Hide My Ass has provided for accessing their VPN system. HMA uses the OpenVPN service to manage the connection. For some reason the script is stopping at "Waiting for connection to complete...". Having read through the script, I found that it runs "service openvpn start HMA". I am guessing this works with older versions of ubuntu, however I think because 16.04 runs systemd, it fails. So my question is what is the sy
[07:08] <ziggyfish> stemd equivalent to "service openvpn start HMA"
[07:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[07:27] <shagenila> Hi I need some help diagnosing random ubuntu crashes
[07:27] <shagenila> I have 14.04
[07:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, ok
[07:28] <shagenila> I checked /var/log/syslog but there's nothing out of the ordinary
[07:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !details shagenila
[07:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !details
[07:28] <shagenila> like the log would just stop right after a cron.hourly
[07:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, crashes when ?
[07:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and how?
[07:28] <shagenila> it's really random
[07:29] <shagenila> I just installed my system
[07:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> crashes as  in what exactly ?
[07:29] <shagenila> and so far it has freezed 3 times
[07:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> crash can be differnet things
[07:29] <shagenila> (sorry I really mean freeze)
[07:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, a freeze ok, so maybe a kernel panic
[07:29] <shagenila> when it froze I tried the REISUB trick but it didn't work
[07:29] <shagenila> so all 3 times I had to power cycle
[07:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> freeze as in black screen
[07:29] <shagenila> I did fsck but results are normal
[07:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or freeze as in  freeze with something on the screen ?
[07:30] <shagenila> no the screen just becomes unresponsive to any input
[07:30] <shagenila> mouse/keyboard
[07:30] <shagenila> my ssh from another machine also stops working
[07:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> on what kind of computer?  RAM? Proccesseger, graphics card etc
[07:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> how old is the computer as well?
[07:31] <shagenila> cpu is i7-4790
[07:31] <shagenila> it's fairly new
[07:31] <shagenila> gpu is gtx 1080, the new card
[07:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, well sure if it crashes your not going to be able to ssh probably into the crashed computer
[07:31] <shagenila> well I was considering the possibility of graphic driver crash
[07:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, which make graphics card is that?
[07:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, 14.04 is old
[07:32] <shagenila> nvidia gtx 1080
[07:32] <shagenila> it's LTS
[07:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yes, but
[07:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> it may lack support for some of your hardware
[07:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> since you got a new machine
[07:32] <shagenila> I'm a developer so I need some stability
[07:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> there's 16.04 now anyway as the latest LTS
[07:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> nice and new
[07:32] <shagenila> I heard it's unstable
[07:33] <shagenila> anyway can you help me diagnose the problem at hand?
[07:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, that would probably work better on your machine, some people get a few issues with any new release or at first anyway
[07:33] <shagenila> actually everything is almost 2 years old except the graphics card
[07:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, that's also why the LTS To LTS upgrade doesn't happen untill the new LTS has a point one release, but that shoudn't put you off installing it yourself already and trying it
[07:33] <shagenila> also I need the CUDA toolkit, which is not compatible with 16.04 yet
[07:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, what's the CUDA tookit ?
[07:34] <shagenila> GPU programming toolkit
[07:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, uh there's a ppa for that?  or a way for you to install it yourself from upsream? surely ?  if not in repos etc
[07:34] <Joral> that irked me about the upgrade, I lost opencl support
[07:34] <shagenila> in any case do you know where I should look to diagnose the cause of freeze?
[07:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, well the log files, but you said nothing was in there
[07:35] <shagenila> CUDA toolkit is available from NVIDIA
[07:35] <shagenila> oh another thing
[07:35] <shagenila> my system is installed on a usb hard drive (not flash)
[07:35] <shagenila> it's a full install, not a live persistent system
[07:36] <UKMechanic> Morning!
[07:36] <shagenila> is there a possibility that the drive gets disconnected temporarily causing freeze
[07:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, ok probably woudn't matter much either way, but a real install should really go on a hard disk :)
[07:36] <Joral> does the 16.04 kernel still support nvidia drivers? I know it dropped support for the AMD drivers
[07:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, I belive there's a propritary Niviad driver avaialbe for 16.04 for Nvidia,  so not just the default open driver
[07:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, and that was only dropped for some AMD  it seems
[07:37]  * defekt feels like farting
[07:37] <Joral> SebthreeBQM10HD, my laptop was one of them and the updater didn't bother to let me know until it was done
[07:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, maybe it does get disconnected temporly casuing crash, try and install it on a hard disk ?
[07:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, put on acomputer for real, and then see what happens ?
[07:38] <UKMechanic> Can anyone help me with a Qt/kvirc timestamp problem?
[07:38] <shagenila> SebthreeBQM10HD: is there a way to directly transfer the data from the usb disk to a internal hdd
[07:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, well propriary drivers don't just get installed by default, if that's what you mean
[07:39] <Joral> 32
[07:39] <Joral> oops hit the kb lol
[07:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, as in the whole OS yeah maybe not sure quite how to though,  things from /home though you could copy over I guess
[07:40]  * SebthreeBQM10HD is sebsebseb
[07:40] <Joral> SebthreeBQM10HD, I had fglrx installed and the update removed fglrx without informing me that fglrx did not exist on the new version.
[07:40] <shagenila> SebthreeBQM10HD: setting up the whole development environment took a long time and I'd rather just move everything over
[07:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> shagenila, you probably can, but I don't know the details of how
[07:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, yes the AMD driver?  yep  certain AMD thing has been dropped
[07:42] <Joral> SebthreeBQM10HD, I understand that now, but the frustration was that I was not given that warning prior to the update or I would not have done the update
[07:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, yeah indeed and quite a few people get effected by the old propritary driver being dropped
[07:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> joral since the open one wasn't quite good enough or whatever, and no I don't use AMD graphics by the way
[07:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, I think flgx is the one they had a article on omgubuntu about though
[07:44] <Joral> SebthreeBQM10HD, I would be happy to use the opensource driver if only it would implement opencl, but for some reason it doesn't
[07:45] <Joral> and even if I get a nvidia card for my desktop, my amd graphics card is on my cpu so I can't just take it out lol
[07:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, ok I am using an Ubuntu tablet at the moment :)  but can't copy and paste just yet using the software Ubuntu Touch, but they are working on a update for that awesome :).  So uhmm if you go to omgubuntu.co.uk and search for fglrx you could bring up the old blog post from March about that, which might be useful or of interest if not at least still
[07:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, but I can't really help you further
[07:49] <Joral> SebthreeBQM10HD, sorry, didn't mean to turn it into a rant and I understand that it is an issue with amd not canonical, just felt like that could have been a warning for a LTS version update
[07:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, there may have been a warnig actually, but in the release notes, that well I  guess not that many people actually read :D
[07:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !16.04
[07:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !notes
[07:53] <ducasse> Joral: it is _clearly_ mentioned in the release notes for xenial, and people are expected to read those before upgrading.
[07:55] <Joral> ducasse, the why is the update an automated popup that does not offer the user the option to even open the release notes.  I simply clicked yes you can update.  I'm not saying that it wasn't an idiot move on my part, I'm simply saying that a part of decent software development should be idiot proofing the major things.
[07:55] <ducasse> Joral: update from 14.04?
[07:56] <Joral> yes
[07:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, ok I agree with that there should be a link to read the release notes if there was't
[07:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, but you can blame the devs  for that if there wasn't :D h e h
[07:56] <ducasse> Joral: you need to use the -d switch to upgrade trusty to xenial at this point (until july 21st) - you shouldn't have gotten a popup at all.
[07:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, yeah and LTS to LTS upgrades don't get started untill the point 1  which is soon ish
[07:57] <pjaypabs> anybody in here?
[07:57] <Joral> ducasse, didn't have to don't know any further than that as I don't have the laptop in front of me, but it popped up about 2 months ago
[07:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, what ducasse put
[07:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> pjaypabs, nope
[07:58] <ducasse> Joral: that should _not_ happen.
[07:58] <ducasse> !ltsupgrade | Joral
[07:58] <xds> why can I ssh to localhost but not the ip?
[07:59] <pjaypabs> new to linux here.. anybody can give me guide
[07:59] <pjaypabs> which things needed to learn 1st
[07:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !manual
[07:59] <Joral> ducasse, popped up just like any other update and next thing I know its doing a dist upgrade, didn't bother me as I didn't think about any issues.  heck the one bit of customization I had done was to install fglrx for opencl support lol
[07:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> pjaypabs, there ^
[08:00] <pjaypabs> have been experiencing random freezes like cant do right click or open any applications
[08:00] <pjaypabs> so i need to make a hard reset/
[08:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> pjaypabs, on what kind of computer? graphics card? proccsser ram? age of computer?
[08:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> pjaypabs, Ubuntu or pretty much any othe Linux distribution as well, should all generally work quite well on most computers, nice and stable and relible, way more so than Windows for example
[08:02] <Joral> is there a utility to auto generate an xorg.conf?
[08:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> pjaypabs, so crashing is a bit hmm really, unless hardware issues usually
[08:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, uh probably
[08:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !xorg
[08:03] <ducasse> Joral: then that would be a bug. until .1 is released it should take a conscious effort on your part to upgrade. but i agree, it should still offer a link to the release notes. there have been a ton of people in here with the exact same problem, none of whom read the release notes, but still actively forced an upgrade.
[08:03] <crazyhorse18> what can i use to play x265 videos in ubuntu that isin't vlc?
[08:03] <crazyhorse18> 14.04
[08:03] <jiggawattz> crazyhorse18 ▸ vlc
[08:03] <ducasse> crazyhorse18: mpv?
[08:03] <crazyhorse18> jiggawattz, is not vlc
[08:03] <crazyhorse18> vlc doesn't work, can't get it to work
[08:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> crazyhorse18, what's x265 ?
[08:04] <crazyhorse18> spent hours googling etc
[08:04] <crazyhorse18> SebthreeBQM10HD, a video codec, the successor to h.264
[08:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !codecs
[08:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> crazyhorse18, I guess you could instll the ubuntu restircted extras, but that may not have support for that, which means then your stuck trying to get it working with vlc I guss basically if so
[08:05] <Joral> ducasse, in all fairness I need to go check I may be running a variant, cant remember if I went with ubuntu, lubuntu, or kubuntu, but I cant imagine that the core functions like that would be different between variants
[08:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Joral, nope any of the offical falvous, so kubuntu xubuntu and what not, should all work or not work the same for your issue
[08:05] <pjaypabs> sorry doing dishes.. found an old unit tried to installed linux for surfing purpose
[08:06] <pjaypabs> intel duo 2gb ram hd graphics
[08:06] <ducasse> Joral: should not matter.
[08:06] <Joral> didn't think so, but full disclosure and all :P
[08:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> pjaypabs, but its crashing? which versin of ubuntu ?
[08:06] <pjaypabs> ubuntu mate 16.04
[08:06] <pjaypabs> lts
[08:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> pjaypabs, hmm
[08:06] <pjaypabs> 64bit
[08:06] <ducasse> crazyhorse18: there aremany other video players, try smplayer
[08:07] <crazyhorse18> ok apt-getting now
[08:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> pjaypabs, you could try a re install,  but it should work on your computer it seems
[08:07] <pjaypabs> yea i think so.. the mouse working
[08:07] <pjaypabs> but suddenly cant do right click
[08:07] <crazyhorse18> annoys me vlc doesn't work .. been using it since 2001
[08:07] <pjaypabs> and cant click gpanel
[08:07] <pjaypabs> i did 2
[08:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> crazyhorse18, not vlc's fault, taht's a propritary closed source thing you want to use
[08:07] <pjaypabs> already
[08:08] <xds> why can I ssh to localhost but not the ip?
[08:08] <crazyhorse18> SebthreeBQM10HD, vlc plays everything including h.265
[08:08] <crazyhorse18> SebthreeBQM10HD, vlc just doesn't work on my installation of ubuntu
[08:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> crazyhorse18,  for legal reasons most distros' don't provide support for propritary closed source patented etc codecs as well,  even Mint has dropped their support more recently
[08:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> default support
[08:09] <crazyhorse18> VLC natively out of the box works with h.264 and h.265 without doing anything
[08:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> crazyhorse18, vlc works to play other things no problem right ?
[08:09] <crazyhorse18> VLC works on all my other computers.. it's my desktop vlc is broken completly
[08:09] <LostSoul_> I'm aving this problem, my wget uses proxy and I can't find where it's set. I checked env http_proxy but it's unset, any tip?
[08:09] <LostSoul_> Hi, btw
[08:10] <crazyhorse18> i.e. can't play a single video, not just h.265
[08:10] <ducasse> xds: can you ssh in from another host?
[08:11] <xds> ducasse, negative. I can ping the external ip, but I can't ssh to it from any machine
[08:11] <crazyhorse18> smplayer / miro  and the other one don't work either
[08:11] <crazyhorse18> i'm beginning to think it's ubuntu
[08:11] <ducasse> xds: then sshd is probably not bound to that interface. check with netstat.
[08:12] <ducasse> crazyhorse18: issues like these are often graphics driver-related.
[08:12] <xds> ducasse, ssh works on LAN ip and localhost
[08:13] <ducasse> xds: so you _can_ ssh to the ip?
[08:13] <crazyhorse18> huh
[08:13] <crazyhorse18> MPV player worked :D
[08:13] <xds> ducasse, LAN ip not internet IP
[08:13] <crazyhorse18> hahaha. 6 programs.. and then one works
[08:13] <LostSoul_> Any idea? :)
[08:13] <plop_its_ellie> mpv is pretty awesome
[08:13] <ducasse> xds: two interfaces?
[08:14] <xds> ducasse, two different interfaces, yes
[08:14] <crazyhorse18> does mpv not have a menu?
[08:14] <ducasse> xds: then again, check with netstat if sshd is bound to that interface.
[08:14] <xds> ducasse, what command?
[08:15] <ducasse> xds: 'netstat -tulpn'
[08:16] <xds> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      20003/sshd
[08:16] <xds> tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      20003/sshd
[08:16] <Joral> is there a way do work with X through ssh? every tool I use like xvinfo or xrandr all say unable to open display but when I am able to get the screen to work on the local machine they work
[08:16] <xds> ducasse
[08:17] <ducasse> xds: so it's bound to all interfaces. you probably have iptables rules blocking the traffic, would be my guess.
[08:17] <xds> ducasse, hmm ok
[08:17] <ducasse> Joral: 'ssh -X'
[08:18] <Shawn186> howdy
[08:18] <Shawn186> anyone know how to get svideo output testing on ubuntu?
[08:19] <ducasse> crazyhorse18: mpv is a cli player, there are interfaces for it, you can tell smplayer to use it instead of mplayer
[08:20] <crazyhorse18> yeah i see
[08:20] <Joral> ducasse, still getting the can't open display. might be a putty issue?
[08:20] <crazyhorse18> I'm surprised there isin't a pure javascript version of these players yet
[08:20] <ducasse> Joral: you're doing this from _windows_?
[08:20] <Joral> yes
[08:21] <ducasse> Joral: windows does not have an x server.
[08:21] <Joral> no I wan't to work with the remote xserver to fix the monitor configuration causing the blank screen
[08:22] <Joral> but I need tools that let me from cli
[08:23] <xds> why can I ssh to localhost but not the ip?
[08:23] <ducasse> Joral: oh, try 'export DISPLAY=:0.0'
[08:23] <ducasse> xds: i answered that.
[08:24] <xds> ducasse, you believe it's iptables, I don't
[08:24] <ducasse> xds: did you _check_ iptables?
[08:24] <xds> ducasse, don't know how mate
[08:25] <Joral> now i get invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1
[08:25] <ducasse> xds: 'sudo iptables -L'
[08:25] <xds> ducasse, it gives me an empty list. so it's probably not iptables
[08:26] <ducasse> Joral: yes, 'export XAUTHORITY=/home/username/.Xauthority'
[08:27] <Joral> still get the invalid mit magic cookie
[08:28] <akik> Joral: ssh -X doesn't let you control the remote x window server. it enables you to show the remote app on your own screen
[08:28] <Joral> so how to I remotely control the x server
[08:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD>  
[08:30] <ducasse> xds: weird, sshd should be bound to all interfaces. you could try manually starting an sshd to explicitly listen on another port on that interface, and try connecting to that.
[08:30] <xds> ducasse, okay
[08:31] <akik> Joral: i don't know a way so that you could see the result yourself
[08:32] <Joral> akik, what do you mean so that I could see the result myself? I have two computers sitting on the same desk, one of which has a botched monitor config so I am trying to dynamically set the monitor via ssh so that I can figure out what works
[08:33] <Joral> but every tool i try tells me cannot open display
[08:34] <akik> Joral: oh ok just starting the login manager should do it then
[08:34] <ducasse> xds: '/usr/sbin/sshd -o ListenAddress=ip.address.goes.here -p 2022' then try connecting to it by specifying the port.
[08:35] <Joral> akik, but i can't see the login manager, what I need is cli tools to work dynamically work with x that I can run with ssh\
[08:36] <Joral> the only output i have atm is ssh
[08:36] <ducasse> Joral: can't you login to a virtual console on the host itself and just delete the monitor config?
[08:37] <Joral> ducasse, no the config has the wrong refresh rate so the monitor go black, ive got nothing on the actual monitor
[08:38] <ducasse> Joral: even if you switch to a console?
[08:38] <Joral> embedded crt so there are no controls for the monitor either
[08:38] <akik> Joral: do you have a backup of the working configuration file?
[08:39] <Joral> no I cannot get a console I have no screen what so ever, and no there is no config file as the new x.org doesn't use config files
[08:39] <akik> you can do all the configuration via ssh. then try to start the login manager through ssh
[08:39] <Joral> how?
[08:39] <Joral> that is what I have been asking for five hours
[08:40] <ducasse> Joral: what did you use to configure x in the first place?
[08:40] <Joral> ducasse, nothing
[08:40] <akik> Joral: it depends of the ubuntu version, either service lightdm start or systemctl start lightdm
[08:41] <akik> Joral: ok so you have never used x11 on this other machine?
[08:41] <Joral> akik not successfully, no
[08:41] <Joral> it is an eMac with embedded radeon 9200
[08:43] <Joral> to clarify, not on ubuntu, I have had it working on gentoo but can't remember exactly what the xorg.conf looked like
[08:43] <akik> Joral: how did you install ubuntu on it?
[08:43] <Joral> through the fb device, but once I installed X the radeon driver went to crap
[08:43] <ducasse> Joral: you will probably need to generate a modeline and write your own xorg.conf snippet.
[08:45] <Joral> I can force the screen to work using the 'video=VGA:1024x768@89' kernel switch but the whole system becomes unstable and locks up after about 3 minutes when I do that
[08:45] <Joral> *VGA-1:
[08:47] <akik> nickname-service's message is probably a hoax. warning!
[08:47] <akik> !ops
[08:48] <akik> please disregard nickname-service's messages
[08:49] <akik> he's insistent
[08:49] <akik> :)
[08:49] <Joral> akik did you catch what I said? posted right before all the screen spam lol
[08:49]  * ducasse wishes these people would diaf
[08:49] <akik> Joral: yes i read it
[08:50] <akik> 11:48 [nickname-service(~NickServ@191.ip-164-132-50.eu)] Your account has been terminated due to: abuse of the op-alert
[08:50] <akik>           trigger
[08:50] <akik> 11:48 [nickname-service(~NickServ@191.ip-164-132-50.eu)] Your account has been frozen pending manual review due to:
[08:50] <akik>           abuse of op-alert trigger
[08:50] <dax> ignore it.
[08:50] <akik> Joral: i can share you the xorg.conf i have for nvidia driver if you want
[08:52] <Joral> akik, I wouldn't know what to do with it, the issue I am having is that the probe is getting the incorrect refresh rates for the monitor, but when I force those refresh rates the system becomes unstable
[08:53] <akik> Joral: how did you manage to do it in gentoo? that's how you did it in ubuntu too
[08:53] <Joral> If I am going about this wrong I am open to suggestions, i'm just frustrated and its late but I have been ignored for two evenings in a row.  On top of that I recognize that the vast majority of this conversation should be had in ubuntu-powerpc but that has been dead for the entire time
[08:53] <akik> s/did/do
[08:54] <Joral> akik, manually compiled radeon with the deprecated UMS support was the biggest difference I believe
[08:54] <ducasse> Joral: didn't you talk about this yesterday, that you needed to build your own kernel to get ums?
[08:55] <Joral> ducasse, yes but I am not shure how to go about that in ubuntu in a manner that will safely allow me to persistently keep the change
[08:56] <wiehan> In order to test some php scripts, for basic web development, what is the minimum packages I need to install on 16.04 for it to work. Is it even needed to install any packages? Basically just a simple html file that calls 1 php script with ajax/jquery.
[08:57] <l9> how do i untar a bz2 or a 7z ?
[08:58] <ma__rc> hey guys, quick question: i'm running 16.04 in live usb mode on another laptop beside me... system monitor tells me there are about 1 gig in use. is that normal ? I mean, I'm just watching the system monitor, not doing anything else
[08:58] <l9> and i am not reffering too tar -zvxf or -jxf
[08:59] <ikonia> ma__rc: keep in mind it keeps your whole file system, operatinging system and processes in ram
[08:59] <l9> ma__rc: the whole live image is loaded into it what do you think?
[09:00] <Shawn186> aww supertuxkart is only for modern and high end video at least
[09:01] <l9> ikonia: duh you know that if you poor this bucket into the well would then see it rise?
[09:01] <ma__rc> well, i had it installed on hdd a few days back and it was the same thing...
[09:01] <ma__rc> also read about memory leaks
[09:01] <ikonia> l9: what ?
[09:01] <ikonia> ma__rc: it will use ram for caching until you need it
[09:02] <xds> why can I ssh to localhost and LAN ip but not external/internet ip?
[09:02] <ikonia> ma__rc: if you think you actually have a memory problem it can be investigated in more detail
[09:02] <ikonia> xds: I suspect you're using some "port forwarding" solution on a home router ?
[09:03] <xds> ikonia, I tried both with port forwarding and without, in the router settings
[09:03] <l9> my computer runs at 11 Gig all the time if you want too know everything uses you should start keeping an on htop telling you in real time what and where it is happening...
[09:03] <ikonia> xds how do you expect it to work without port forwarding ?
[09:03] <ikonia> xds: bottom line is either a.) your machine is not being presented to the public internet (most likley) b.) something is blockign port 22 - most likley ISP if it's not you
[09:04]  * l9 gone again too high way for me see ya on tha bus
[09:04] <xds> ikonia, default settings should allow individual pcs connected to the router, all with their own ip, to allow connections
[09:04] <ikonia> l9: please disable your away message
[09:04] <ikonia> xds: I doubt that
[09:04] <xds> ikonia, what do you mean by not being presented to the public internet?
[09:04] <alchemistswl> xds do you want to ssh into your box on the external ip within your own lan?
[09:04] <ikonia> xds: more so when it's forwarded to the internet
[09:04] <xds> alchemistswl, yes
[09:04] <alchemistswl> alot of routers block that because of dns rebind attacks
[09:05] <alchemistswl> use canyouseeme.org and look if the port is opened
[09:05] <xds> alchemistswl, Error: I could not see your service on 85.230.180.251 on port (22)
[09:05] <xds> Reason: Connection timed out
[09:06] <alchemistswl> But your did forward the port atm, yes?
[09:06] <xds> alchemistswl, yes. pointing to LAN ip of sshd machine
[09:06] <alchemistswl> is sshd even started?
[09:06] <xds> alchemistswl, yes. I can connect to it from different machines within the LAN
[09:07] <ikonia> within the lan doesn't matter
[09:07] <ikonia> what matters is what and how it's presented to the public internet
[09:07] <xds> ikonia, what should I tinker with?
[09:07] <ikonia> xds: %90 of these problems come from poor home grade comsumer routes port forwarding
[09:07] <alchemistswl> Well the only problem I can find (taking into account that the port is forwarded properly) is that the ISP might block access to 22. Its generally a bad idea running SSH on 22 on public internet. change the port to something different, forward it and try again
[09:07] <ikonia> xds: %5 will be local setup %5 will be ISP blocking you
[09:08] <ikonia> it's not a bad idea to run ssh on 22
[09:08] <xds> oh well. guess I'll give up then
[09:08] <alchemistswl> ikonia if you would like your logs to be spammed with bruteforce attempts then go ahead, if you use password-auth, its even worrse
[09:09] <alchemistswl> worse*
[09:09] <ikonia> alchemistswl: thats no different than running it on a different port as most bots scan for header then attack
[09:09] <ikonia> it's more important to secure the port, rather than change it
[09:09] <alchemistswl> xds just try changing the ssh port, forward it again and try
[09:10] <alchemistswl> ikonia bots usually dont do full port scans on your machine, so if I run SSH on say: 7234 they dont know it
[09:10] <alchemistswl> but thats besides the point of port forwarding now, I guess.
[09:13] <akik> alchemistswl: fyi just changing the port is no security fix
[09:14] <alchemistswl> akik its not a fix for a) bad password b) password auth i.g. c) vulnerable software
[09:14] <alchemistswl> but it stops spamming my auth.log with bruteforce attempts, yes I could just use fail2ban, but yeah.
[09:23] <Bomber4Chats> hey, I have a 4k display laptop (MSI) and I'm trying to fix Qt and Wine application sizing to it to 192 dpi
[09:23] <Bomber4Chats> I'm not able to get very far
[09:23] <bittin> Debconf has started now: http://video.debconf.org/menzies-9.webm
[09:24] <Bomber4Chats> with Wine, biggest issue is windows size and icons do not scale, text I was able to scale
[09:24] <Shawn186> is the configure wine tool wine itself?
[09:24] <Bomber4Chats> it is
[09:26] <Shawn186> ah
[09:26] <Shawn186> does roblox work on it?
[09:27] <Bomber4Chats> that I don't know
[09:27] <Shawn186> I'm about to test :)
[09:28] <Shawn186> an intel centrino duo seems kinda slow for ubuntu
[09:28] <ikonia> far from it
[09:29] <Shawn186> ?
[09:31] <Bomber4Chats> currently no one with experience in wine / qt dpi scaling?
[09:31] <ikonia> the guys in winehq will have detailed wine experience
[09:32] <Xin> Hey I have a folder - /var/www/html/_/ and I want to link it to /home/user/projects/
[09:32] <Xin> so I do ln -s /var/www/html/_/ /home/user/projects
[09:32] <ikonia> xds: I advise you not to do that
[09:32] <ikonia> just change the documentroot parameter for that vhost
[09:32] <Xin> and then when I do ~/projects/ the root is in _
[09:32] <Xin> or rather I have to cd into _
[09:33] <Xin> ~/projects/_
[09:33] <Xin> nah its for something very specific heh
[09:33] <ikonia> good - then change the documentroot
[09:33] <Xin> tbh I should mount it centrally and symlink it twice
[09:33] <ikonia> that is the correct way to do it
[09:33] <ikonia> especially for something specific
[09:33] <Xin> no I dont even run apache dude
[09:33] <Xin> or any webserver
[09:33] <ikonia> then why are you messing with the apache document root
[09:34] <Xin> stop solving problems that dont exist
[09:34] <Xin> its just a shared folder
[09:34] <ikonia> stop making one that doesn't
[09:34] <Xin> Its not called /var/apache is it
[09:34] <ikonia> Xin: what does that have to do with it ?
[09:34] <Xin> Because anyone can use it for anything
[09:34] <Xin> eg, for me, a file sharing location
[09:34] <ikonia> right, but it is the apache document root
[09:35] <Xin> thats completely irrelevant
[09:35] <Xin> lol
[09:35] <ikonia> sort it our yourself then, as I dont' personally believe you
[09:35] <Xin> I know what you mean, yes if I was using a webserver, you would be correct that would be the right way to do it
[09:35] <ikonia> no-one would randonmly pick that directory
[09:35] <ikonia> and not use apache/webserver
[09:35] <Xin> LOL what could I be doing to my own dev vm
[09:35] <Xin> HAXING ITS DOCUMENTS
[09:35] <Xin> VIA SYMLINKS IM ALLOWED TO MAKE
[09:36] <ikonia> please stop typing in caps
[09:36] <Xin> M4dH5ckr
[09:36] <Xin> is my new nick
[09:36] <Xin> well thanks for nothing :)
[09:36] <Shawn186> well, roblox does not run on wine out of the box
[09:36] <Xin> I googled it, solved in 15 seconds
[09:37] <Xin> you're a credit to the force
[09:37] <akik> Xin: why didn't you do it first then?
[09:38] <Xin> akik; ikr, its like, why expect anyone to help with anything
[09:38] <Xin>  /suicide
[09:39] <akik> Xin: it's best to try to figure out things yourself at first
[10:19] <ponyrider> spam my name plz i am testing a script
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> ponyrider  try it in #test, or ##test
[10:33] <Aljone> Hello all im using centos and im trying to update the server time . but it seems whatever i update using date function when i output my code date its diffrent. i wonder how can i set the time to my time properly
[10:34] <ikonia> Aljone: ask in #centos
[10:34] <ikonia> Aljone: this channel is for ubuntu only
[10:34] <Aljone> im not registered user
[10:34] <ikonia> Aljone: register then
[10:34] <Aljone> :/
[10:49] <hypermist> why is it that i cannot install certain packages like i cannot find certain php modules
[10:50] <ikonia> hypermist: you need to be specific
[10:50] <hypermist> give me a moment i'll just see if its my fault as usual ikonia =D
[10:54] <hypermist> seems it was
[10:54] <hypermist> ncm
[10:54] <hypermist> nvm *
[10:57] <necron> hola
[10:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !es
[10:58] <necron> hola
[11:01] <tatertots> hello necron
[11:01] <tatertots> english?
[11:13] <necron> español?
[11:14] <necron> si no hablais en español me estais discriminando por hablar en español
[11:14] <Gallomimia> no espanol. sorry
[11:15] <Gallomimia> if you visit the spanish speaking channel, they'll make you feel much more welcome.
[11:15] <Gallomimia> its not that we want to discriminate. it's just that we don't speak spanish
[11:15] <necron> muy bien pero yo hablo en español
[11:16] <ducasse> !es | necron
[11:19] <Wulf> Good Morning
[11:19] <Wulf> who's responsible for the official EC2 cloud images?
[11:24] <Jayant> Hi, I am expereincing issues in using my external hdd in Ubuntu 14..04. Can anyone help me?
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> Wulf  that's a question for Amazon, this is ubuntu support
[11:24] <Wulf> MonkeyDust: it's a question for ubuntu, not amazon.
[11:25] <Wulf> MonkeyDust: those images are provided by ubuntu
[11:26] <tatertots> what's going on with your ext hard drive Jayant?
[11:27] <Jayant> HI Tatertots, I am using Western Digital external hdd. It was working fine till yesterday. I was moving some files and it froze my system.
[11:27] <Jayant> I rebooted it, since then, nautilus is not displaying my hdd
[11:28] <Jayant> However, it is listed in lsusb output
[11:28] <zteam> Jayant, does your harddrive show up in Gparted?
[11:29] <Jayant> No, but disks shows it
[11:29] <tatertots> Jayant have you attempted to check the disk for errors and then repair any errors?
[11:30] <zteam> Jayant, you mean it show no partitions in Gparted (but the disk itself shows up right?
[11:30] <Jayant> No, forums suggest it should be done by a windows ssytem as its file system is ntfs but windows also didn't recognize it.
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> Jayant  what's the output of    lsblk -f ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:30] <tatertots> sudo ntfsfix -d /dev/sdX1
[11:30] <Jayant> No, it just show my internal hdd
[11:31] <tatertots> show us the output of lsblk as suggested above
[11:31] <Jayant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18377000/
[11:32] <zteam> Jayant, hmm.... do you see your parttions if you run sudo fdisk -l from a terminal?
[11:32] <Jayant> No, just the internal hdd
[11:32] <Jayant> However, I followed this link and my hdd do shows in nautilus
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> Jayant  and the output of   sudo blkid
[11:33] <zteam> Jayant, this sounds quite akward, please paste the output from sudo fdisk -l on http://pastebin.com/
[11:34] <Jayant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18377203/
[11:34] <zteam> ((you can use paste.ubuntu.com as well)
[11:35] <Jayant> Following this link showshdd in nautilus but all the directories are empty
[11:35] <Jayant> http://lamarque-lvs.blogspot.in/2011/07/e-sata-solid-and-udisks-part-2.html
[11:35] <Jayant> However, the space is still occupied
[11:35] <Jayant> Also, trying to list files using ls fives I/O device error
[11:37] <Jayant> Should I paste the output ofdmesg?
[11:37] <zteam> Jayant, Well, I still like to see the output from sudo fdisk -l please :-)
[11:38] <Jayant> fdisk -l ----> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18377505/
[11:40] <zteam> Jayant, thank you :-)
[11:41] <zteam> Jayant, it seems that the partition table is gone from that drive, you can try to use TestDisk to restore it
[11:42] <Jayant> zteam, TestDisk is also unable to detect the drive :-(
[11:43] <Jayant> zteam, If it helps, The hdd contains 3 partitons, 2 are empty and still unable to mount. he 3rd one containing the data, is showing all the top level directories but there is no content in them
[11:44] <zteam> Jayant, Okey... That sounds pretty bad :-/
[11:45] <zteam> Jayant, what does sudo dmesg | tail gives you=
[11:45] <zteam> ?
[11:47] <zteam> Jayant, and do you mean you can actually mount some of the parttions from that drive?
[11:48] <Jayant> zteam, Yes, By following this link, The partition with data gets mounted but shows only top level directories
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Jayant  what was your initial question
[11:49] <Jayant> zteam, this is dmesg output --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18378360/
[11:50] <bozsikarmand> hi! Can you please help me how to set up ramdisk under 16.04 and how to move chrome cache there?
[11:51] <Jayant> MonkeyDust, I am unable to mount the external hdd with all its partitions and mounted partition doesnot show the contents of directories but occupies the expected space
[11:51] <luxmus> lol
[11:52] <Jayant> zteam, Sorry, this is the link, which helps me to see one partition http://lamarque-lvs.blogspot.in/2011/07/e-sata-solid-and-udisks-part-2.html
[11:53] <thrasher88> hello everyone, I just rescued my old HDD with installed ubuntu on it by making it external, but is there any chance to boot from that external HDD?
[11:53] <zteam> Jayant, okey.... I never played with udev-rules so I'm quite clueless there....
[11:54] <Jayant> zteam, Ok. Can you please help me seeing the dmesg output
[11:57] <zteam> Jayant, from what I can see I would say it seems like a hardware fault, since the system can't even detect the size of the hardrive correctly, it also seems the disk is trying to recover errors but fail
[11:58] <zteam> Jayant, you can see the health status about your hardrive in Disk Utility I belive it will look quite bad
[11:59] <Jayant> zteam, Ii displays serial no and model but no sze and content
[12:00] <Jayant> zteam, It's strange, The drive is brand new, no physical damage. It was working one minute and another minute it is almost dead
[12:00] <Jayant> zteam, Is there a way to recover the data from it?
[12:00] <zteam> Jayant, on some disks it shows Health status
[12:01] <zteam> Jayant maybe...
[12:02] <Jayant> zteam, there is no info about health. Can you suggest me some tool to check it?
[12:02] <zteam> Jayant, stupid question but have you tried to connect the drive to another usb-port, switched usb-cables, tested it on another computer and so on
[12:02] <Jayant> Yes, All results in same :-(
[12:03] <zteam> Jayant, if it supports SMART status i believe Disk Utility should tell you it
[12:04] <zteam> Jayant, but you can try Speedfan it's a Windows utility
[12:05] <Jayant> zteam, disks utility have only 2 options enable.  to power down and to edit mount options
[12:05] <Jayant> zteam, sure, Let me install it and I'll get back to you. Thanks
[12:06] <zteam> Jayant, You can also try to mirror your drive / parttions with ddrescure and then try to mount these image-files and run TestDisk one them
[12:07] <Jayant> zteam, I'll try ddrescue firs
[12:08] <zteam> Jayant, I'm not sure if ddrescue knows what to work with in your case but you can always try :-)
[12:10] <zteam> Jayant, just remember ddrescue needs another drive to write too
[12:10] <Jayant> zteam, What should I try first? ddrescue or speenfan?
[12:11] <zteam> Jayant, Speedfan will just list the health status about your drive, it will only take a few seconds :-)
[12:11] <zteam> Jayant, So you can run that first
[12:12] <Jayant> zteam, Ok, Thanks
[12:13] <enoch85> hey guys, I'm looking for a torrent client that can download via RSS in Ubuntu
[12:13] <enoch85> do you know any?
[12:15] <zteam> Jayant, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Imaging_a_damaged_device.2C_filesystem_or_drive
[12:17] <zteam> Jayant, another option to try is to open up usb case (yes it's usaally just a case) and connect the harddrive directly to your computer and see if that that works better
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:24] <cariveri> Hi.
[12:28] <pseudonymous> Do anyone know of and operate a simpler mailserver stack than something like postfix+dovecot (or similar, classic setups)
[12:32] <ikonia> pseudonymous: not going to get easier than postfix+dovecot type setup
[12:32] <ikonia> they are all of that level apart from sendmail which is a bit more complex
[12:33] <pseudonymous> Really ? Of all the services I've ever configured, none has been more complex and broken than setting up a mail server. Last I did it, I recall setting up some 5 services or so, definiting database schemas for user accounts and whatnot. There's really no integrated solution that will do for simple, personal servers ?
[12:33] <ikonia> pseudonymous: it's not a toy
[12:34] <ducasse> pseudonymous: email _is_ complex.
[12:34] <pseudonymous> I'd argue the Linux kernel is a fair bit more complex, but that complexity is not shoved down to the people just trying to compile and use it... :(
[12:35] <ikonia> pseudonymous: that comment pretty much shows how silly you are
[12:35] <pseudonymous> Oh? And why is that
[12:35] <ikonia> because it has nothing to do with anything and it's probably the most weak defense for why you can't setup a proper mail service
[12:36] <pseudonymous> ikonia: it does, it just wasn't spelled out - Complexity, even if inherent, does not necessarily spill over into the user's world, it's called abstractions (and bad ones leaking that complexity are called leaky abstractions). There.
[12:37] <ikonia> pseudonymous: sorry - no, thats just nonsense
[12:37] <ikonia> pseudonymous: you can run an MTA in seconds, you can run a solid, MTA in a few minutes,
[12:37] <ikonia> running a mail service is a mixture of multiple services that all need to be configured in line with your requirements and securely
[12:37] <ikonia> thats pretty different than blindly typing "make"
[12:38] <pseudonymous> ... and that's called bad design
[12:38] <ikonia> and if you want to do more than "make" then it is complex as you have to understand the modules
[12:38] <ikonia> pseudonymous: no - it's called "you've not got the required skills yet"
[12:38] <ikonia> pseudonymous: mail is not a toy
[12:38] <pseudonymous> Look up the whole OpenVPN vs WireGuard debacle going on right now for a corrollary.
[12:38] <ikonia> no
[12:38] <ikonia> again, that has nothing to do with anything
[12:38] <ikonia> just learn the required skills and gain the understanding
[12:39] <tatertots> servers in general are not toys, ideally you would have a "seasoned" system engineer or admin in charge of configuring and maintaining email servers
[12:39] <pseudonymous> Look, we're not going to agree and you accusing me of stupidity is obviously not doing much to incline me to adopt your point of view. So let's just leave it.
[12:40] <Jayant> zteam, It started to show directories as well as files in them, But I am stil unable to create an image of the partition. While trying to copy any file manually, It again gives I/O device error
[12:40] <ikonia> pseudonymous no-one said you where stupid
[12:42] <pseudonymous> ikonia: well, you did, actually. Silly has several connotations, none of them flattering, but among them is "weak in intellect" - Look up Webster's dictionary for an example.
[12:42] <zteam> Jayant, so ddrescue didn't find the drive?
[12:42] <ikonia> pseudonymous: no, you just made a silly example to mirror your sityuation,
[12:42] <pseudonymous> ".. how silly you are"
[12:42] <ikonia> yes,
[12:42] <pseudonymous> That's referring to the person, not the act
[12:42] <ikonia> I don't care, either learn how to run a mail service, or don't
[12:43] <ikonia> rather than trying to "beat me"
[12:43] <Jayant> zteam, It shows the content before I ran ddrescue
[12:44] <zteam> Jayant, I'm asking what ddrescue telled you?
[12:46] <pseudonymous> ikonia: Not trying to, just pointing out that your tone is less than ideal, and that it would've been better to just refrain from further commenting rather than insult someone. At least the latter doesn't seem to jive with the philosophical underpinnings of this whole ubuntu thing.. Oh well
[12:47] <ikonia> pseudonymous: no-one tried to insult you, rather than try to make an issue and complain that something is too hard, when you don't seem to understand it, why not engage with someone who has experience and would be happy to try to explain it to you
[12:47] <ikonia> as I would have done had you not tried to make stupid comparisions to compiling the kernel to justify it
[12:48] <zteam> Jayant, Anyway, here is another tool you can try if you like http://www.roadkil.net/program.php/P29/Unstoppable%20Copier
[12:48] <monchi> hello
[12:49] <tatertots> hi monchi
[12:50] <pseudonymous> ikonia: It's a more apt comparison than you give it credit. The point is that the experience shouldn't be complex, the defaults should be ridiculously simple - and yet no configurability would be lost. That's exactly why the kernel is a decent example. While you can tweak every module, include and exclude others, enable/disable various introspective features and override schedulers, you can also just
[12:50] <pseudonymous> use the defaults.
[12:50] <ikonia> pseudonymous there is nothing valid about it
[12:50] <zteam> Jayant, Be warned thought, if drive is already in bad shape, and your files are really important, you might want to send the drive to a data recovery company instead
[12:50] <ikonia> pseudonymous: the experience isn't complex if you understand the mail service and pay respect to the security side of things to stop another broken mail relay appearing on the internet
[12:52] <tatertots> seen lots of people poorly configure email servers and wonder why their ISP keeps shutting them down and why they are blacklisted 3 or 4 times a month lol
[12:52] <zteam> Jayant, because Unstoppable Copier will try over and over again, so if drive is in really bad shape it might hurt it further
[12:53] <Jayant> zteam, I am unable to execute ddrescue. Yes, some files are really important. But, There are 2-3 recovery professionals in my city and none of them is assuring anything
[12:54] <pseudonymous> tatertots: which exactly points out how bad the standard is, then. Because instead of designing a simpler set of protocols, security was patched on top and its proper implementation left as an exercise for the user. Throw in a smattering of bad documentation and hell ensues. (IMHO) :)
[12:54] <ducasse> pseudonymous: postfix+dovecot is not hard to set up at all, as long as you have a faint idea of what you're doing.
[12:54] <ikonia> pseudonymous and again - that shows how silly you are with this
[12:55] <ikonia> pseudonymous: it's complex because it's not a toy,
[12:55] <tatertots> there are no assuring in the data recovery field.....you will pay if they recover %100 or %1
[12:55] <pseudonymous> ikonia: so when wireguard can be written as a viable, secure alternative to OpenVPN in 4000 lines of kernel-space code, it's a toy ?
[12:55] <tatertots> either way you're paying regardless
[12:55] <ikonia> pseudonymous that has nothign to do with mail
[12:55] <ikonia> it's a totally different application and type of application
[12:56] <ikonia> and stop referencing the kernel - it's nothing to do with "how to run a mail server"
[12:56] <zteam> Jayant, you need to be more specific... what error message do you get? :-)
[12:56] <Jayant> zteam, I keep getting "[14312.013810] ses 17:0:0:1: Failed to bind enclosure -19" in dmesg logs. What is the meaning of enclosure here?
[12:56] <ikonia> it's just showing you don't understand how email works on the internet, which is fine, but the quicker you accept that and start to learn rather that trying to justify why someone should make it easier by totally redesigning email....the quicker you'll get running
[12:56] <tatertots> data recovery is expensive also...best practice with "important" data is back up early and back of often
[12:57] <tatertots> typo....back up often
[12:57] <zimbres> hi, can someone please help me with my USB? It does not show in /media after plugin in.
[12:57] <zimbres> strangely enough the mouse works fine on the same usb slot.
[12:58] <zteam> Jayant, enclosure probably means the usb case (yes the usb-box is just a case)
[12:58] <tatertots> Jayant.....do you have back ups as part of your disaster recovery plan/procedure?
[12:58] <thrasher88> Hello, i have old HDD from my laptop with installed ubuntu on it but when i put it on external case can't boot from it...Any suggestions?
[12:58] <Jayant> tatertots, Sadly no. :-(
[12:59] <pseudonymous> ikonia: You're equating simple with being a toy. And if you read the design considerations of wireguard vs openvpn you'll learn that its simplicity is derived from not trying to support 200 scenarios of which 190 won't ever (or should never) be used. Such as a mailserver blindly relaying whatever w/o credentials.
[12:59] <ikonia> pseudonymous you're just spining your wheels
[12:59] <zteam> Jayant, so you can try open up usb-case and connect the drive directly, you will probably void the warranty on the harddrive  that way but....
[13:00] <ikonia> pseudonymous: open relay is pretty common and useful for a lot of senarios, so again - perhaps not stating things that you don't know would help you get a better view point
[13:00] <Jayant> zteam, I didn't  understand. Do I have to open my laptop as well to connect it somewhere on the board or something else?
[13:01] <pseudonymous> ikonia: Prey tell, what are these many scenarios ?
[13:02] <ikonia> pseudonymous internal relaying, mail hand off, which is pretty much how the internet email system works behind the public visible mail servers
[13:02] <deepak>  -1 down vote favorite I want to install Ubuntu 16.04 on my 32GB flash drive, so that when i plug my flash drive i can use Ubuntu otherwise windows 10. Below are my system details:  1) I have Sony Vaio Lapton with Window 10 2) 4GB Ram  I'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on 32GB Sandisk flash drive and i prompted with success message that ubuntu install succesfully restart your system. I have used below link to install ubuntu:  http://
[13:02] <deepak>  0 down vote favorite I want to install Ubuntu 16.04 on my 32GB flash drive, so that when i plug my flash drive i can use Ubuntu otherwise windows 10. Below are my system details:  1) I have Sony Vaio Lapton with Window 10 2) 4GB Ram  I'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on 32GB Sandisk flash drive and i prompted with success message that ubuntu install succesfully restart your system. I have used below link to install ubuntu:  http://u
[13:02] <ikonia> deepak: please stop that
[13:03] <ikonia> deepak: do you have a question / problem without this silly spam and down vote stuff ?
[13:03] <deepak> Sorry for the same
[13:03] <deepak> I want to install Ubuntu 16.04 on my 32GB flash drive, so that when i plug my flash drive i can work use linux otherwise windows 10. Below are my system details:  	1) I have Sony Vaio Lapton with Windows 10 	2) 4GB Ram  	I'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on 32GB Sandisk flash drive and i prompted with success message that ubuntu install succesfully restart your system. I have used below link to install ubuntu:  	http://ubuntuhandbook
[13:03] <zteam> Jayant, no... a USB-harddrive is just a regular harddrive put inside a box (enclosoure / case) so if you unscrew that box you just get a regular harddrive
[13:03] <ikonia> deepak: what is the actual problem (not readinging the ubuntuhangbook stuff) just explain the problem
[13:04] <Jayant> zteam, So after opening the case, I can still connect it via a USB cable?
[13:05] <popey> looks like he's copy/pasting from an askubuntu post or something similar ikonia
[13:05] <ikonia> ok ? but I'm not seeing a problem
[13:05] <ikonia> just a statement of what he wants to do
[13:05] <popey> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38170077/installing-ubuntu-on-flash-drive-booting-issue that one in fact
[13:05] <popey> because he can't paste enough on irc
[13:05] <ikonia> ahhh
[13:05] <pseudonymous> ikonia: and you're really just hammering home my point. This is the equivalent of using a default CPU or IO scheduler for the Linux kernel - certain usecases demand it, but it shouldn't be the default as most people just need a "safe", SSL-enabled setup with a reasonable set of supported, modern ciphers for auth. I shouldn't have to avoid screwing this up, the defaults should be sane.
[13:05] <ikonia> pseudonymous: nothing like it
[13:06] <zteam> Jayant, yes, as long as you are not destroying the case in some ways :-)
[13:06] <Jayant> Ok, I'll try it
[13:07] <deepak> i installed Ubuntu 16.02 on my flash drive. But when i restart my ubuntu bootloader not working and directly load windos10
[13:07] <zteam> Jayant, you can try that, or Unstoppable Copier
[13:08] <ikonia> deepak: most probably, it's either not booting from the flash drive, or it's missing the bootloader on the flash drive, so defaults back to your windows disk to boot
[13:08] <EriC^^> deepak: which laptop?
[13:08] <deepak> Sony Vaio
[13:09] <EriC^^> deepak: try to get a boot options menu and choose uefi usb
[13:09] <EriC^^> deepak: you installed to the usb and not the hdd?
[13:09] <deepak> yes
[13:09] <zteam> Jayant, there is a guide on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRG3lzxA3Yo
[13:10] <deepak> But i have followed the same steps mentioned on below link
[13:10] <deepak> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/11/install-real-ubuntu-os-usb-drive/
[13:10] <EriC^^> ok, try that, or if you have a "browse for efi file" you can also use that to boot efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi or shimx64.efi
[13:11] <ducasse> Jayant: if you rip a drive out of the enclosure, odds are you need to use a sata cable.
[13:11] <cseder>  /msg nickserv identify asd1042
[13:11] <Jayant> Thanks ducasse, I'll keep one handy
[13:12] <Jayant> zteam, Thanks, I'll look into it. I reaaly appreciate your help
[13:12] <Varazir> Hello, I found that I can use wget -O filename url only problem is that I don't know the name of file name I'm downloading. It has the version number in the name
[13:12] <EriC^^> Varazir: you choose whatever filename you want
[13:12] <ducasse> Jayant: if you connect to the usb inside the enclosure, you will still be going through the (probably cheap) converter electronics.
[13:13] <Varazir> example "https://plex.tv/downloads/latest/1?channel=16&build=linux-ubuntu-x86_64&distro=ubuntu&X-Plex-Token=dsklfhjkldshf" ( changed the token) would give me plexmediaserver_1.0.0.2261-a17e99e_amd64.deb
[13:13] <Varazir> EriC^^: I know but I want the correct filename
[13:13] <EriC^^> Varazir: if you dont supply one i think wget will use the correct one
[13:14] <Varazir> EriC^^: -O needs a argument
[13:14] <zteam> Jayant, I should have mentioned that, you need to open up your computer to connect the drive to it too.
[13:15] <EriC^^> Varazir: without -O maybe?
[13:15] <Varazir> EriC^^: if I don't use -O I get a file called 1?channel....
[13:15] <zteam> Well well, time to eat :-)
[13:15] <EriC^^> Varazir: are you putting the url in quotes?
[13:16] <Varazir> EriC^^: yes
[13:16] <EriC^^> so the file is actually the file? same size
[13:18] <Varazir> EriC^^: yes
[13:19] <asdfasdf> can i get a hand?
[13:19] <asdfasdf> i'm trying to log into my freenode user account but it says that my nick is already in use
[13:20] <asdfasdf> even though it isn't
[13:20] <pseudonymous> asdfasdf: you need to ghost it, first.
[13:20] <asdfasdf> pseudonymous: what is that?
[13:20] <ikonia> asdfasdf: /join #freenode
[13:20] <Varazir> EriC^^: I guess I could script it, first use --spider to test and then get the filename and then download the file using that
[13:21] <ikonia> the guys in there can help you asdfasdf
[13:21] <EriC^^> asdfasdf: /msg nickserv release <nick> <password>
[13:21] <Jayant> zteam, Currently, The hdd is detected and showing all the files, but gives I/O error on coppying. Please look into the latest dmesg logs ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18385345/  I am trying to avoid opening the case for obvious reasons :-)
[13:21] <asdfasdf> thanks, that did the trick
[13:21] <EriC^^> Varazir: try asking in ##linux
[13:21] <pseudonymous> asdfasdf: mind you, I'm not really an IRC expert. But I've had it happen before, too. Your account is still logged in, but it's not, it's a ghost, in other words :) "/msg nickserv ghost <usr> <pass>"
[13:23] <zteam> Jayant, see if you can ddrescue or just dd to make a image of that drive again, if not then just try Unstoppable Copier
[13:25] <Jayant> zteam, Ok. Thanks
[13:26] <zteam> Jayant, No problem :-)
[13:26] <zteam> Jayant, Be Back Later :-)
[13:27] <nkhlghbl> hi
[13:27] <nkhlghbl> hello world
[13:27] <nkhlghbl> this is nkhl
[13:27] <nkhlghbl> hello georgeowell
[13:27] <nkhlghbl> :q
[13:29] <Varazir> EriC^^: ok
[13:29] <georgeowell> hey
[13:31] <ducasse> Jayant: also you should be aware that if the drive is physically failing, you could be just stressing it by doing this and causing even further data loss.
[13:34] <Threadnaught> err I'm having audio problems on 16.04 on a toshiba satellite, I've tried google and I can't figure out how to fix it. It detects the audio device, and thinks its playing sound, it even recognises the audio up and down keys, but no sound comes out of any of the ports managed by the computer. USB and bluetooth devices work.
[13:35] <bipul> When we download ubuntu , we get gnome as default? If i am not wrong? If it is, then what version of gnome we are using? How do we know?
[13:35] <ducasse> bipul: you get unity
[13:36] <bipul> I tried with couple of commands like  "gnome-session --version" and dpkg -l , but it does not working at all.
[13:36] <ikonia> dpkg is nothing to do with the desktop
[13:36] <Threadnaught> I had the same problem when cub was installed (which is based off of 14.10 I think)
[13:38] <ducasse> bipul: did you read what i wrote? by default you don't get gnome, you get unity.
[13:38] <bipul> Yes, we get unity by default.So there is difference between Unity and Gnome?
[13:38] <ikonia> bipul yes
[13:38] <bipul> ducasse, Yes. I got your point.
[13:39] <bipul> ikonia, What are the differences?
[13:39] <ikonia> bipul: have a read up
[13:39] <ikonia> bipul: it's not a one liner response
[13:39] <bipul> ikonia, Ok let me google about it. Between thank you both of you ikonia ducasse
[13:49] <linux> hi
[13:50] <JaguarDown> If I want to install a plugin for pidgin but the only available version is supposedly for 14.04, will it break anything trying to install it on 16.04? Thanks.
[13:51] <ikonia> JaguarDown: yes, don't mix versions
[13:51] <JaguarDown> Copy, thanks.
[13:53] <sanae-inouu> sjnjk
[13:53] <sanae-inouu> cjhsdbjcsdkl
[13:53] <sanae-inouu> msp&CHILL
[13:54] <ikonia> sanae-inouu: please stop that
[13:54] <sanae-inouu> OKI
[13:57] <Mitchell92> is there any way / a third party application to access apple's subscription based music service on linux / ubuntu?
[13:57] <ikonia> Mitchell92: not really, it's locked to itunes
[13:57] <Mitchell92> I figured... Thanks.
[14:19] <craptalk> why everytime i just rebooted my machine, my ubuntu got error message?
[14:19] <craptalk> it has been this way since i first using it
[14:19] <Mitchell92> what is the message?
[14:20] <craptalk> Mitchell92, like bla bla, then send the error message or ignore it. Well basically it can be ignored but it kept showing up, is it truly having internal error or what?
[14:20] <Mitchell92> I don't like craptalk
[14:20] <craptalk> just after the reboot
[14:21] <craptalk> Mitchell92, what do you mean?
[14:21] <Mitchell92> oops
[14:21] <Mitchell92> I meant I don't know
[14:21] <Mitchell92> sorry, I'm talking to someone on the phone about my breakfast order at the same time
[14:21] <craptalk> Mitchell92, dont worry
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> craptalk  the content of the error contains the beginning of a solution, 'bla bla' is too vague
[14:21] <Mitchell92> I'm so sorry, that isn't what I meant to type... I meant I don't know.
[14:22] <craptalk> MonkeyDust, ikr, but i need to reboot it again to possibly see it
[14:22] <craptalk> not now
[14:22] <Mitchell92> craptalk, has it done this since the ubuntu install?
[14:22] <Mitchell92> Or since an update or installation of something?
[14:22] <craptalk> Mitchell92, long time ago tho
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> craptalk  come back here when you know the content of the erro message
[14:22] <craptalk> since i used 14.04
[14:22] <ioria> craptalk,  can you paste  ls -al /var/crash ?
[14:23] <craptalk> ioria, let me try
[14:25] <craptalk> ioria, http://termbin.com/yjhg
[14:25] <ioria> craptalk,  something about unity crashed ...
[14:26] <craptalk> ioria, okay
[14:26] <ioria> craptalk,  cd in /var/crash    rm it, reboot and see if it comes back
[14:26] <craptalk> ioria, what do you want to rm? the history error list?
[14:27] <ioria> craptalk,  that file usr_lib_unity-settings-daemon_unity-settings-daemon.108.crash
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> craptalk  either way, you'll have to reboot
[14:28] <craptalk> ioria, i just did rm it
[14:28] <craptalk> so my unity is broken or what?
[14:28] <ioria> craptalk,  reboot
[14:29] <craptalk> i want to know the cause
[14:29] <ioria> craptalk,  could be a compiz, lightdm or video driver issues ...
[14:30] <craptalk> so everything that got some error message is stored in /var/crash?
[14:30] <ioria> craptalk,  nope, depends
[14:31] <craptalk> ioria, do you remember the whole ubuntu file system?
[14:31] <craptalk> the hierarchy of it?
[14:31] <craptalk> i find myself hard to find the error of something
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> craptalk  first reboot, then ask more questions
[14:31] <craptalk> MonkeyDust, sure man. Hold on a sec
[14:32] <ioria> craptalk,  as you can see from ls -al /var    crash is in the whoopsie group.... alisa Apport
[14:33] <ioria> *alisa
[14:33] <ioria> craptalk,  that is the  "Ubuntu Error Reporting" daemon
[14:36] <craptalk> ioria, just rebooted it and message gone for now
[14:36] <craptalk> thanks to you
[14:36] <ioria> craptalk,  you're welcome
[14:37] <craptalk> so what happened inside that file that i just rm it?
[14:37] <craptalk> the system stored it thee to just warn it?
[14:37] <craptalk> and when i rm it i just get rid of the error message?
[14:37] <ioria> craptalk,  that was a bin file, iirc supposed to be  sent
[14:38] <craptalk> ioria, iirc?
[14:38] <ioria> if i recall correctly
[14:38] <craptalk> ioria, what is that?
[14:39] <ioria> craptalk, that file was a report
[14:39] <craptalk> ioria, alright
[14:39] <craptalk> ioria, last thing, my ubuntu run so slow, is it cause my default installed unity?
[14:40] <ioria> craptalk, what's your cpu and ram ?
[14:40] <craptalk> if i rm it, will it be some kind of error later on?
[14:40] <craptalk> 2 GB, core i3
[14:40] <ioria> craptalk, only 2 G ?
[14:40] <craptalk> still bad thing to run ubuntu
[14:40] <craptalk> yeah
[14:40] <ioria> craptalk,  laptop or desktop ?
[14:40] <craptalk> laptop
[14:41] <ioria> craptalk,  see if you can add a bank
[14:41] <ioria> craptalk,  of ram i mean
[14:41] <ioria> craptalk,  2G not ideal for unity
[14:41] <craptalk> ioria, i figured. but i thought ubuntu way faster than windows at the cost of old device
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> craptalk  better use something lighter than unity, lxde or xfce or so
[14:42] <ioria> craptalk,  yes, bu Unity
[14:42] <ioria> craptalk,  *but
[14:43] <craptalk> well, i installed lubuntu instead and sometime still slow at some point but not always.
[14:43] <craptalk> cant resist of loving ubuntu distro
[14:43] <ioria> craptalk,  your cpu is ok, i'd upgrade the ram
[14:44] <ioria> craptalk,  at least 4 G
[14:45] <craptalk> well, when i am using windows on the same laptop, i got error message saying my HDD is having a problem. but i dont get it on ubuntu. The question is, since i installed applications to my HDD, and when my HDD is at bad condition, will it effect the performence?
[14:45] <enoch85> hey guys, how do I install teamviewer in ubuntu? the deb package says I'm missing dependencies
[14:45] <craptalk> enoch85, install those dependencies
[14:45]  * OmegaA corrupted his boot USB drive yay!
[14:46] <craptalk> enoch85, then install teamviewer
[14:47] <akik> enoch85: sudo apt install ./teamviewer.deb
[14:47] <OmegaA> Huh.
[14:48] <OmegaA> Didn't realise you could install .deb files with apt. Always used dpkg -i
[14:48] <akik> OmegaA: yes it takes care of the dependencies
[14:49] <OmegaA> So, to fix grub after installing windows, all I have to do is boot into my USB drive and do sudo grub-install /dev/sda?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> deb files usually contain an installer
[14:50] <wang> name/wang
[14:50] <wang> ...
[14:51] <wang> hello
[14:51] <enoch85> craptalk: ok, will try
[14:52] <BluesKaj> OmegaA,  that used to work, not sure if it will now , i recall getting a refusal saying "can't be found in fstab" or some such
[14:53] <BluesKaj> OmegaA,  you may need to use boot-repair
[14:53] <tatertots> hello wang
[14:53] <BluesKaj> !boot-repair
[14:53] <BluesKaj> !bootrepair
[14:53] <BluesKaj> OmegaA, ^
[14:57] <MadLamb> Do you guys know why gnome-keyring-daemon is using 100% of my CPU?
[15:02] <tatertots> MadLamb....does it do this "consistently"?
[15:02] <MadLamb> tatertots, yes, every day
[15:02] <MadLamb> tatertots, I found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/1433032
[15:03] <MadLamb> tatertots, but i would like to know how to fix it
[15:04] <MadLamb> and i'm with xenial, not trusty
[15:04] <OmegaA> Hmm, clicked on 'Try Ubuntu' on the installer, how long shoulder it take to do?
[15:04] <tatertots> ah a bug
[15:05] <tatertots> gotta love that
[15:05] <neil_> OmegaA, it shouldn't take more than a minute to display something
[15:05] <OmegaA> Hmmm.
[15:05] <OmegaA> Ah, there we go
[15:06]  * OmegaA sometimes forgets how slow USB can be :P
[15:06] <craptalk> what to channel to ask about wine?
[15:07] <h16h> .net
[15:08] <tatertots> merlot or zinfandel lol just kidding
[15:08] <bai_ceko> hello, is there someone who can help me with my boot problem?
[15:08] <SchrodingersScat> !alis | craptalk , think it's #winehq but check with alis bot
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> bai_ceko  let's hear it, in one line
[15:09] <tgm4883> !wine
[15:10] <bai_ceko> I'm trying to boot my Ubuntu 14.04 from external case (my laptop failed) but when I try I get this
[15:10] <bai_ceko> error: no such partition.
[15:10] <bai_ceko> Entering rescue mode...
[15:10] <bai_ceko> grub rescue>
[15:10] <DJones> tatertots: Pesonally, zinfandel :)
[15:10] <craptalk> bai_ceko, the OS is unreadable
[15:11] <craptalk> cant detect OS in it.
[15:11] <craptalk> what is your external case?
[15:11] <bai_ceko> works perfectly when i put the HDD in the laptop
[15:11] <bai_ceko> Logilink
[15:12]  * OmegaA sigh. Booted the drive in legacy mode, not UEFI mode.
[15:12] <craptalk> that's the problem with making it on the HDD and then booting it to another machine
[15:13] <craptalk> but logically it could run
[15:13] <tgm4883> actually, it sounds like grub can't find the OS. So I would bet that you just need to tell grub where the OS resides
[15:13] <bai_ceko> boots on other machine perfectly, but can't from external case
[15:14] <bai_ceko> how to do that tgm4883?
[15:14] <craptalk> bai_ceko, you like already setting the BIOS which to be primary booting?
[15:15] <craptalk> bai_ceko, maybe this one is something to read: http://askubuntu.com/questions/615731/problem-booting-ubuntu-on-external-hard-drive
[15:16] <bai_ceko> I'll try that;)
[15:16] <tgm4883> bai_ceko: Take a look at the first answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/321862/grub2-points-to-the-wrong-harddisk-after-installing-one-more-harddisk
[15:16] <tgm4883> bai_ceko: it's a different description, but should help you find the right parition/drive number if that's the issue
[15:17] <bai_ceko> thanks for your answers guys ;)
[15:20] <Napoelon> Would anyone know how to make the wireless adaptor the gateway in preference to a wired ethernet in U14.04?
[15:20] <OmegaA> Welp, there are seven options on the grub menu, might have to clean it up so I just have 'Ubuntu' and 'Windows'
[15:22] <Napoelon> Normally setting the metric of the wireless to be smaller than the ethernet, but (1) I think Ubuntu doesn't use that, (2) I can't find in the network config settings where to set it.
[15:22] <OmegaA> Is there a gui thing for editing the grub menu?
[15:30] <Tin_man> OmegaA, here is one: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/install-grub-customizer-ubuntu-1404/
[15:32] <Tin_man> never used one myself, just edited the grub with a text editor.
[15:34] <Napoelon> OmegaA: You can use `update-grub` if you like?
[15:35] <Napoelon> OmegaA: then use a text editor to delete the entries you don't want.
[15:36] <Napoelon> Would anyone know how to make the wireless adaptor the gateway in preference to a wired ethernet in U14.04?
[15:39] <freerider> hi guys
[15:41] <freerider> What is the current best NES and SNES emulator available on Ubuntu?
[15:43] <bazhang> freerider, snes9x iirc
[15:43] <bazhang> apt search snes  freerider
[15:43] <Pollux> #help
[15:45] <min> hi
[15:46] <freerider> bazhang: thx I gonna check it out...
[15:46] <bazhang> welcome
[15:54] <al2o3-cr> As apt changed?
[16:05] <Napoelon> ducasse:  hi m8
[16:07] <skinnymg1> hello all
[16:08] <tokam> I had a proxy, who I do not trust configured in firefox and by accident opened a document from my ftp server with firefox. I used nautilus for ftp browsing. Are there chances, that my ftp password got transmitted into firefox and to the proxy owner?
[16:11] <SchrodingersScat> tokam: I guess that depends on how firefox opened it.  if it used the ftp:// then it is possible?
[16:11] <tokam> I double clicked
[16:12] <tokam> It appears to use....
[16:12] <tokam> file:///run/user/1000/gvfs/ftp:host=mydomainname.net/httpdocs/media/something/index.html
[16:13] <SchrodingersScat> tokam: maybe not then, that's opening a local file, so not sure that would go through the proxy.  Can always change creds just to be careful.
[16:13] <tokam> Than I had luck.
[16:14] <az_> do you know some good way to clean home dir from X related files? i want reinstall ubuntu gnome to xubuntu so I want remove all X related files from home dir
[16:22] <ryu> Hi guys
[16:22] <Guest42853> Hi guys
[16:23] <puru> hi I am having problems with idle installation
[16:23] <Guest42853> I made a post in ubuntu forums can someone who i knowledgable please take a look at it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2329499
[16:23] <puru> i have installed idle for python  from terminal and now i am unable to open its 'configure idle" window.
[16:23] <Xin> hey guise, I have a smb/cifs share mounted through fstab
[16:23] <Xin> what do I need to add to its fstab line to make it readable/writable to a user
[16:23] <Xin> or all users
[16:23] <Xin> doesnt matter which
[16:24] <puru> when i run it from terminal it show the error:
[16:24] <puru> Exception in Tkinter callback
[16:24] <puru> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:24] <puru>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1540, in __call__
[16:24] <puru>     return self.func(*args)
[16:24] <puru>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/idlelib/EditorWindow.py", line 543, in config_dialog
[16:25] <az_> what do you would select between ubuntu mate/kubuntu/xubuntu?
[16:26] <mchelen2> depends on your priorities
[16:27] <mchelen2> i like mate & xubuntu for simplicity
[16:27] <efques> Hello -- installation question. I'm installing in a system where I've already prepared a LUKS partition with lvm inside. The installer sees the mapped vg and is fine with setting the mapped volume to root. But I'm not sure if I should leave the LUKS partition as "do not use" (will it know where to look for the root volume inside?) or if I should use it as "physical vol for encryption" (it wants me to choose a password even though it's
[16:27] <az_> mainly stable then some nice look
[16:27] <az_> i have perty good pc, nvidia, 16GB ram, amd 6-core
[16:27] <az_> i had xubuntu, was good, after few years and some little problems after few upgrades i changed to ubuntu gnome
[16:28] <mchelen2> i think mate is more on the stability side, but kubuntu is prettier
[16:28] <az_> and ubuntu gnome is so unstable, after lock screen i have problem, addons gone from time to time too etc
[16:28] <az_> so much stability problems
[16:28] <mchelen2> i haven't really had problems with gnome, but ymmv
[16:28] <az_> i just don't want such problems, xfce was good in that
[16:29] <mchelen2> yeah xfce is pretty solid
[16:29] <mchelen2> so is mate
[16:29] <az_> i liked gnome 2
[16:29] <az_> it was best ever, so nice
[16:29] <mchelen2> thats pretty much what mate is
[16:30] <az_> hmm
[16:30] <az_> so maybe mate, if is stable
[16:30] <mchelen2> you can try a live usb to see how it looks
[16:30] <az_> mate looks so much like xfce
[16:30] <az_> i never liked kde but this last dont look bad
[16:31] <mchelen2> well its your call
[16:31] <az_> so you think that mate will be more stable that kubuntu?
[16:31] <mchelen2> i had more stability issues with kde in the past, but thats just my personal experience
[16:31] <k1l_> az_: yes
[16:32] <az_> thanks
[16:32] <az_> i go then install ubuntu mate
[16:32] <az_> do you have some good solution for delete my old xfce/gnome files from /home dir ?
[16:32] <az_> i mean that all configs under .folder etc
[16:33] <az_> maybe there is some good way to clean that
[16:33] <ducasse> az_: you need to do that manually.
[16:33] <mchelen2> i usually backup my home dir to network drive, then only restore the stuff i want
[16:33] <az_> i have 3 hdd
[16:33] <az_> internal
[16:33] <az_> 1 ssd for ubuntu, 1 for home, 1 for windows :)
[16:33] <mchelen2> well to another hdd, whatever
[16:33] <az_> and usb 3.0 for backup
[16:34] <az_> so i just reinstall that ssd and keep my home
[16:34] <mchelen2> i like to use network drive but whatever you prefer
[16:34] <mchelen2> oh ok your /home is not on the ssd
[16:34] <az_> yeah
[16:34] <mchelen2> i mean honestly you don't necessarily need to worry about it
[16:34] <az_> so it should be easy to reinstall
[16:34] <mchelen2> those files wont dont anything bad
[16:35] <az_> this ubuntu mate looks so much like xfce
[16:35] <mchelen2> yeah its similar default config but its different code under the hood
[16:35] <akik> az_: mate is the continuation of gnome 2
[16:36] <az_> ah so will be great
[16:36] <az_> i loved gnome 2
[16:36] <az_> it was awsome look :)
[16:36] <az_> xfce was my replacement for g2
[16:39] <hhee> hey
[16:39] <hhee> guys. what color theme does vim (terminal) has in ubuntu 14?
[16:40] <az_> ok thanks
[16:40] <az_> i go reinstall to mate :)
[16:50] <ducasse> hhee: if you want a color scheme you need to install one
[16:50] <hhee> ducasse, i know it, but those theme cool, want to know name, to install in my system
[16:52] <ducasse> hhee: there must be literally hundreds of color schemes for vim out there, just find one you like. you will also need a suitable terminal.
[16:54] <ducasse> hhee: fwiw, i like zenburn and solarized dark.
[16:56] <eonumbreon> What about monokai bright?
[16:57] <ducasse> eonumbreon: sure - that's nice too. he should really just try a few and pick one he likes.
[16:58] <eonumbreon> ducasse :-)
[17:07] <hhee> ducasse, got it
[17:07] <hhee> ducasse, thx
[17:07] <ducasse> hhee: np.
[17:08] <Napoelon> ducasse:  hi m8
[17:08] <ducasse> Napoelon: \o
[17:08] <Napoelon> Anyone know how to install openssh-server on U16.04?
[17:08] <Napoelon> Without internet access
[17:09] <SchrodingersScat> !offline | Napoelon, but that doesn't make much sense to me, but ok.
[17:09] <ducasse> Napoelon: download the package elsewhere?
[17:10] <SchrodingersScat> !APTonCD
[17:10] <Napoelon> Ubuntu won't install the drivers for my wireless device through the System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers.
[17:11] <Napoelon> So I can't access the net from that PC atm, but I was hoping openssh-server 'might' be on the install disk.
[17:11] <SchrodingersScat> what's going to ssh into it if it's offline?
[17:11] <Napoelon> I don't have Synaptic installed either, just the Ubuntu Software (Centre)
[17:12] <ducasse> Napoelon: it's on the server image, i think
[17:12] <Napoelon> <== Having a rant ==>This U16 install is crap.
[17:12] <Napoelon> ducasse: oh, ok. I'll download that.
[17:13] <ducasse> Napoelon: easier to just grab the package :)
[17:13] <tgm4883> SchrodingersScat: +1
[17:13] <k1l_> Napoelon: there is a limit of what to ship as preinstalled. your usecase might differ from the standard setup. which should not be worth a rant.
[17:14] <SchrodingersScat> Napoelon: if you ask and give details about the wireless, someone may be able to help you.
[17:15] <Napoelon> k1l:  I understand, but the Additional Drivers allows me to select the wireless device's proprietary but freezes after I click apply.
[17:16] <Napoelon> Schrodinger:  I have a MacBook Pro 2014.  I have U14.04 installed on it, which I've just moved to an external drive and am trying to install U16.04 in its place on the internal drive.
[17:16] <k1l_> Napoelon: in a world where the manufacturers ship perfect drivers for linux, that would be worth a rant. now you just rant about mostly volunteers not doing the perfect job. but with details about the exact hardware used people in here would be able to help
[17:17] <Napoelon> I don't think Canonical is a NPO
[17:17] <SparkySquirrel> why does Ubuntu Yakkety Yak have such an old Qt 5 version?
[17:17] <SchrodingersScat> !Yakkety
[17:18] <k1l_> aha, apple hardware is known to be broken. there you need too lookup exactly the make and model and see what you need to do to make that run
[17:18] <tgm4883> Napoelon: I don't think Canonical ships Ubuntu on MacBooks
[17:18] <SparkySquirrel> SchrodingersScat: so they'll update it?
[17:18] <SchrodingersScat> SparkySquirrel: idk, ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:18] <Napoelon> It doesn't.  But it does ship the driver for the wireless.  And U14 works fine.
[17:18] <k1l_> Napoelon: canonical is the firm behind ubuntu and ubuntu is a linux distribution.
[17:18] <tgm4883> Napoelon: which driver?
[17:19] <Napoelon> Sorry, but a spade is a spade in my book
[17:19] <russell> russell
[17:19] <SchrodingersScat> does it need to download the driver? is ethernet required here?
[17:19] <k1l_> Napoelon: you are just showing how less you know with your rants :/
[17:19] <Napoelon> BCM4360 802.11ac  (Broadcom)
[17:19] <k1l_> Napoelon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[17:19] <Napoelon> whatever kil.
[17:19] <Napoelon> you can ignore me if you like.
[17:20] <SchrodingersScat> !broadcom | Napoelon I wish broadcom would end their reign of terror
[17:20] <darthanubis> !rtlsdr
[17:20] <Napoelon> ki1: thnx 4 the link
[17:20] <bazhang> darthanubis, try /msg ubottu
[17:21] <Napoelon> I wish Apple would too.  But that's what I have and I'm trying to make it work.
[17:21] <darthanubis> bazhang, your still here huh?
[17:21] <darthanubis> bazhang, do you ever take off?
[17:21] <Napoelon> The drive is on the install DVD.  It's the Software & Updates that's freezing.
[17:21] <bazhang> lets stay on topic here please darthanubis
[17:21] <darthanubis> nothings changed ic
[17:22] <darthanubis> take care
[17:22] <Napoelon> U16 install overwrote my EFI settings, wouldn't shut-down, wouldn't bring up a terminal with ctrl-alt-T
[17:22] <Napoelon> sorry, crap is crap....
[17:22] <Napoelon> but I'll make it work, as long as it's not like windows that needs to be re-installed every so often.
[17:23] <bazhang> Napoelon, this is support only
[17:23] <tgm4883> Napoelon: TBF, you're talking about software that has a best effort to support some very closed hardware
[17:23] <Napoelon> I've been using Ubuntu for 10 years now.
[17:23] <tgm4883> Napoelon: for instance, I've had 1 issue on my Thinkpad T450s that was fixed with a kernel upgrade
[17:23] <Napoelon> I run my severs with it and other stuff, but crap is still crap when it's crap
[17:24] <bazhang> Napoelon, thats enough
[17:27] <radio> hola
[17:30] <Madhu> Hi
[17:31] <UnKnOwN|> Madhu: Hello.
[17:31] <Madhu> Blueskaj .. unable to inst x3100 m5 server in RAD1
[17:31] <Madhu> Hi unknown
[17:32] <Madhu> X3100cm5 bios raid 1 is creating read only eaid1
[17:34] <KinoZampie> I like pie
[17:35] <Madhu> Sssistant..
[17:35] <Madhu> Hi smith
[17:36] <Madhu> Need help to ins Ubuntu
[17:37] <Madhu> Hi krypton
[17:39] <ComMan> people anyone understands MPI and Python? i need help understand this scripts
[17:40] <Aziz> hello
[17:40] <jamesd_> hi
[17:42] <KinoZampie> Hey
[17:43] <ComMan> hello
[17:43] <KinoZampie> How's life?
[17:44] <ComMan> good
[17:44] <ComMan> anyone understand MPI?
[17:44] <candyban> Anyone familiar with bootstrapping an ubuntu using PXE on a soekris? (using a serial console)
[17:45] <mchelen2> ComMan: thats a pretty broad question :P
[17:45] <mchelen2> folks instead of asking if anyone is familiar with a subject, try asking the specific question or issue you have with it
[17:45] <bazhang> #python for ComMan
[17:45] <candyban> The issue is that I am able to boot (install). It then says loading linux ... ok, loading initrd ...ok, and then it all stops
[17:46] <ComMan> bazhang: i cannot talk in #python they do not allow
[17:46] <ComMan> mchelen2: i am trying to run the examples for MPI here https://github.com/jbornschein/mpi4py-examples but i keep getting an error
[17:46] <k1l_> !register | ComMan
[17:46] <bazhang> ComMan, so register, ask in #freenode how
[17:47] <candyban> mchelen2: so, was that a better explanation about my problem?
[17:47] <candyban> ;)
[17:47] <mchelen2> candyban: yup much better!
[17:47] <ComMan> bazhang: k1l_ i cannot speak at #freenode
[17:47] <candyban> now just a solution ...
[17:47] <candyban> or a hint towards a solution
[17:47] <mchelen2> candyban: try repeating that description every 30 mins or so and probably someone will have an idea
[17:48] <k1l_> ComMan: read the bots message. you need to register to freenode for some other projects channels. #freenode is moderated, too. you need to wait until staff grants you permission to speak in #freenode
[17:48] <mchelen2> candyban: is there any way to get a log or terminal output so you know where exactly it is stopping?
[17:48] <candyban> mchelen2: no unfortunately not
[17:48] <mchelen2> hmm thats tricky
[17:48] <ComMan> k1l_: that is just too much trouble, i rather just communicate when people in a related channel
[17:48] <candyban> mchelen2: just blank screen ... and no network activity
[17:49] <mchelen2> candyban: you might want to try ##linux since its not an ubuntu specific issue
[17:49] <mchelen2> afaik
[17:49] <candyban> mchelen2: that's why I asked if anyone was familiar with it so I could use "special" (verbose) options
[17:49] <candyban> mchelen2: trying to install ubuntu 16.04 server ...
[17:50] <candyban> but ok, I'll try my luck there
[17:50] <k1l_> ComMan: its not our task to judge how other projects run their irc channels. talk to the projects if you dont like the way they do it. we focus on technical ubuntu support in here
[17:50] <ducasse> ComMan: that's not how it works, register and ask in the proper channel.
[17:50] <mchelen2> candyban: yeah so even just asking "how to get verbose debug output during pxe boot?" is a good question to start with
[17:50] <candyban> mchelen2: :) Thanks
[17:51] <mchelen2> ComMan: if you use irc on an ongoing basis its worth taking the 5 min to register. all you do is send 1 message then click an email
[17:51] <candyban> (not sure if I will remain in this channel as I am using ircII)
[17:51] <mchelen2> idk what that is
[17:51] <ComMan> mchelen2: ducasse k1l_  well my nich is registered but i still can't talk in #freenode
[17:52] <bazhang> ComMan, you need to wait more than five seconds there
[17:52] <ducasse> ComMan: you need to wait to get +v, the topic clearly says so
[17:52] <mchelen2> ComMan: try leaving the chan & rejoining?
[17:52] <jiggawattz> ComMan ▸ /msg bazhang about it
[17:53] <jiggawattz> he'll get your sorted... he's an op
[17:53] <mchelen2> oh yeah the topic there says you can message someone
[17:53] <k1l_> ComMan: you need to wait in #freenode . you can tell the staff on "/stats p" what you think about this system. but this is not the proper topic for #ubuntu
[17:53] <jiggawattz> ComMan ▸ k1l_ is right.... take it to /msg bazhang
[17:53] <ComMan> ok
[17:54] <ComMan> k1l_: jiggawattz mchelen2 ducasse thanks, i sent the message
[17:54] <ComMan> waiting
[17:54] <octavio> !s martin campbell
[17:58] <riqj> hello everyone, I have just upgraded from 14.04. to 16.04 with the command 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d', and I get the same screen as here since I restarted to complete the upgrade; https://is.gd/FDzaFI ..I used this command before to do the same upgrade but I didnt encounter this problem then. can you suggest a solution other than fsck to fix this, as I am wary of fsck might go wrong and mess it up even worse?
[18:00] <administrador> Hello. I have Lubuntu 14.04 64bits. AMD drivers. When I set the resolution to 1920x1080 the whole desktop looks bigger than my screen, in Windows AMD has an option to scale the whole image, how can I scale down the image in Lubuntu?
[18:01] <ducasse> riqj: not much to say, if you need to do an fsck, you need to do so
[18:01] <SchrodingersScat> riqj: you can always pull from !backups if something goes wrong with the fsck
[18:03] <BluesKaj> suspect he didn't update and upgrade the existing packages before doing do-release
[18:04] <riqj> BluesKaj, if you mean 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade', correct, I didn't think about running it.
[18:05] <russell__> hi
[18:05] <riqj> SchrodingersScat, when or how can I run !backups ?
[18:05] <SchrodingersScat> !backups | riqj
[18:07] <BluesKaj> riqj,  try to get to a vt/tty, then update and upgrade
[18:07] <riqj> SchrodingersScat, if you mean the built-in backup of Ubuntu, I dont use it, but do my own backups. if you mean restoring from a backup, I can maybe login to my home folder via live cd/usb and back up before running fsck
[18:07] <ducasse> riqj: no, you nee
[18:07] <riqj> BluesKaj, sorry what is vt/tty ?
[18:07] <ducasse> riqj: no, you need to run fsck first.
[18:08] <SchrodingersScat> why are you afraid of fsck then? it only wants to help ;_;
[18:08] <riqj> ducasse, is it impossible to access my home folder from another system?
[18:08] <ducasse> riqj: you can't mount the fs until you've cleaned it.
[18:09] <riqj> SchrodingersScat, I had awfully useful moments of using fsck, but also saw it create a mess :)
[18:09] <k1l_> riqj: i think you dont understand what situation your system is in. its not sending you that errors just for fun.
[18:09] <EonUmbreon> Just joined, is this regarding a Windows home folder?
[18:09] <riqj> ducasse, ok
[18:09] <BluesKaj> riqj,  think ducasse is correct, fsck has to be looked after first
[18:09] <EonUmbreon> Cause I have noticed hybrid boot causes me fs issues due to hibernation state
[18:10] <riqj> k1l_ no, I dont understand. I didnt get this error before
[18:10] <k1l_> riqj: if the FileSystem is in a bad state and needs a fsck you cant work around that.
[18:10] <riqj> and it doesnt explain in the error, just says emergency state
[18:10] <riqj> ok
[18:10] <ducasse> riqj: if you are really nervous, you can clone first, but if you have backups i don't see what you're worried about.
[18:11] <k1l_> riqj: if you are scared to dataloss: then make a "dd" image of that partition. and try to work on that image instead
[18:11] <riqj> ducasse, ok, fine, I will go with fsck
[18:12] <skinux> Anyone know how to use wget to get it to download index page as well as all pages that index page has a link to?
[18:12] <EonUmbreon> What, like a web crawler?
[18:13] <riqj> but again, is this here the solution to the problem, the one posted in the first reply: https://is.gd/FDzaFI ?
[18:13] <riqj> sudo -i, fdisk -l and then umount /dev/sdb1, fsck -y /dev/sdb1, and reboot ?
[18:13] <EonUmbreon> wget -r -U mozilla <index page here> might do it
[18:14] <EonUmbreon> Unsure. I just googled it. !wget
[18:14] <EonUmbreon> !wget
[18:14] <ducasse> riqj: well, just use the right device name in those commands.
[18:14] <riqj> ducasse, yes, sure
[18:15] <ducasse> riqj: if you can post the fdisk -l output, we can tell you.
[18:16] <riqj> ducasse, sure, I will! thank you :)
[18:17] <ducasse> riqj: np :)
[18:22] <asdasd> selam
[18:22] <asdasd> bir konuda yardıma ihtiyacım var
[18:23] <asdasd> yardımcı olabilecek kimse varmı
[18:23] <k1l_> !tr | asdasd
[18:23] <ircnode0> I shared video from laptop to TV through HDMI cable. However, I want to use audio on TV only. How I can achieve this? I watch a video using firefox.
[18:24] <EonUmbreon> Why do you want to do this
[18:24] <EonUmbreon> Most TVs require video input for audio to work
[18:24] <ircnode0> Now, the TV is running image without audio and laptop is running image and voice. I want to disable audio in laptop and enable it on TV
[18:25] <ducasse> ircnode0: set audio output to hdmi in pavucontrol
[18:25] <EonUmbreon> What spin of ubuntu are you using? There should be a setting in your audio settings
[18:25] <EonUmbreon> ^^ what ducasse said
[18:26] <administrador> Hello. I have Lubuntu 14.04 64bits. AMD drivers. When I set the resolution to 1920x1080 the whole desktop looks bigger than my screen, in Windows AMD has an option to scale the whole image, how can I scale down the image in Lubuntu?
[18:26] <ircnode0> ducasse: Okay, I will install pavucontrol and try it.
[18:27] <compdoc> administrador, try wider settings
[18:27] <compdoc> or different settings
[18:27] <compdoc> when you get a good one, it will look good
[18:28] <ducasse> administrador: sounds like you need to adjust the monitor
[18:28] <kaosu> Signing kernel drivers and importing their signatures into the secure boot database was much easier to do than I excepted. Now I can run third-party drivers without disabling secure boot. All I need to do now is write a script to automate the task so I can do it after every kernel upgrade, lol.
[18:28] <kaosu> modules*
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> info arandr | administrador
[18:28] <ioria> administrador, menu -> preferences -> monitor settings ? what resolution in use ?
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> !info arandr | administrador
[18:29] <akik> kaosu: is there a linux command that i can use to check my secure boot status? bios is showing 'custom'
[18:30] <kaosu> akik: mokutil --sb-state
[18:30] <akik> kaosu: thanks
[18:31] <akik> kaosu: says secureboot enabled
[18:31] <akik> the funny thing is that i didn't need to disable it for nvidia module
[18:31] <akik> even though ubuntu says that it's mandatory
[18:32] <kaosu> akik: If you're using dkms to rebuilt a new kernel module when the kernel is upgraded and you can use the proprietary drivers without any issue then secure boot is not being enforced.
[18:32] <akik> kaosu: yes nvidia is using dkms
[18:32] <kaosu> By design secure boot will not allow any unsigned third-party drivers to run, period. Since you are basically rebuilding the kernel module on your own machine, that module is not signed and won't boot.
[18:33] <kaosu> So, while mokutils believes secure boot is enabled (which I am sure it is), it is not being enforced for some reason.
[18:33] <akik> kaosu: when ubuntu told me to disable secure boot i just said no thanks
[18:33] <kaosu> I would try setting your BIOS from Custom to a different value and see if that helps enforce secure boot.
[18:34] <marty> HI
[18:34] <akik> kaosu: i've added grubx64.efi to the bios boot menu choices
[18:35] <kaosu> akik: Are you using 16.04? I'm very curious to know why secure boot isn't being enforced against the nVidia drivers without signing them.
[18:35] <akik> kaosu: yes kubuntu 16.04
[18:36] <ducasse> akik: i think you need to boot with the shim, not grubx64.efi
[18:36] <akik> ducasse: i don't know what that means
[18:36] <kaosu> I'm not sure why Ubuntu wants to disable secure boot. It would be trivial to create a script to automatically sign specific drivers and import that new signature into your database. That's a far better solution than just disabling it.
[18:37] <ducasse> akik: boot shimx64.efi, not grubx64.efi, basically. the shim enforces sb and loads grub.
[18:37] <akik> ducasse: ah ok thanks for that info
[18:38] <kaosu> ducasse: Thanks for that information. I didn't know that until now.
[18:38] <theo443> after i get a privileged shell with "sudo -s", how do i return to the unprivileged shell? (tried "sudo -s username", but it didn't work)
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> theo443  ctrl d
[18:38] <bekks> theo443: Type "exit".
[18:39] <theo443> bekks: thnaks
[18:40] <riqj> I just tried to access my home folder, and I managed to do so??
[18:41] <riqj> does that mean that fs is ok?
[18:41] <bekks> riqj: No.
[18:41] <riqj> I havent run fsck yet, but I could access the home folder, now I can back it up
[18:41] <bekks> riqj: It means you managed to get access to your home folder and its contents.
[18:42] <riqj> bekks, we have been talking about that it wouldnt be possible a short while ago..I am referring to that conversation
[18:44] <riqj> ducasse, BluesKaj I accessed to my home folder.
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> riqj  rsync is a quick and easy way to backup your /home
[18:45] <alesaico> hi
[18:46] <alesaico> is there someone to talk?
[18:46] <riqj> oh, I am almost done with the backup, thank you, MonkeyDust
[18:47] <alesaico> how find a channel about hackers?
[18:47] <Bashing-om> alesaico: Talk ( chat ) for us is #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[18:47] <bekks> alesaico: By searching on another network rather than freenode.
[18:48] <alesaico> thanks
[18:48] <KoLiBer> hi'
[18:49] <alesaico> someone use ubunt mate?
[18:49] <tortib> I try not to, I prefer gnome3
[18:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I have tried in vm
[18:50] <tortib> I've used it before tho on antergos
[18:50] <bekks> alesaico: People in #ubuntu-mate often do.
[18:50] <tortib> alesaico, just ask your question
[18:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> used mATE more in another distro
[18:50] <alesaico> i tet in vm, i like
[18:50] <tortib> It's too classic for me
[18:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> tthats the idea of mate having cllassic living on
[18:51] <KoLiBer> hey guys i have a question : Node.js is better or Sacala for Websocket Server ?
[18:55] <alesaico> someone play chess? i whating machines playing chess: http://tcec.chessdom.com/live.php
[18:56] <ircnode0> ducasse: found the audio switch for TV in Sound in System Settings
[18:57] <ircnode0> should have looked there first ^^;;
[18:58] <ryu_> hi
[18:59] <ryu_> is there anyone that can mentor me i have alot of minor questions and i can't find the help i need on the forums
[19:00] <Bashing-om> ryu_: Sure, but like the forum .. one question at the time .. ask away .
[19:01] <madhu> xet7 -- Please help to install ubuntu on raid1
[19:02] <madhu>  Getting error while intalling Ubunto 12.04 while partition table creating on HDDs on x3100 M5
[19:02] <Tin_man> must be a long question. Bashing-om
[19:02] <madhu> I am trying to install 12.04 on x3100 M5 server with RAID 01. Creating RAID 1 readonly mode and error "operation not permitted  to write on disk"
[19:03] <Bashing-om> Tin_man: : long thought process as to what to ask 1st ??
[19:04] <madhu> After bios raid1 config. partition tables are not writing on disk
[19:04] <Tin_man> kinda scary
[19:04] <xet7> madhu: I used https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Softwareraid/en instructions when I last time used raid, I don't have time to explain more now.
[19:05] <madhu> I tried using  Desktop 64bit CD : Using creating MSDOS New partitioncreated MSDOS New partition table on 2 HDDs.
[19:06] <acer> how i change my list of sources ? please...
[19:07] <madhu> xet7 -- Wants RAID 1 on though BIOS config
[19:09] <madhu> hi
[19:10] <madhu> snypxzz
[19:11] <madhu> Hi snypxzz
[19:11] <djapo> i have a usb connection from my guitar that i want to connect to guitarix
[19:11] <madhu> Hi mhache
[19:11] <djapo> but it doesn't seem to be displayed with the audio playback section, can jack only handle one card at a time
[19:11] <djapo> ?
[19:12] <madhu> Hi sprat
[19:13] <madhu> hi lubunix
[19:13] <Myrtti> madhu: you're going to have a long day if you're going to greet everyone coming in
[19:13] <madhu> Hi Myrtti.
[19:14] <madhu> Myrtti .. I tried myself to install but unable to do it
[19:15] <madhu> Myrtti .. Still my problem is same.
[19:15] <madhu> ?
[19:16] <madhu> Hi Mrdunno. May I chat with you
[19:16] <mrdunno> qq all
[19:16] <Myrtti> madhu: the way this channel usually works is that you post your question, and if someone knows the answer, they will answer
[19:17] <mrdunno> madhu, ok
[19:17] <mrdunno> madhu, yes, you can
[19:17] <madhu> Mrdunno ...
[19:17] <madhu> Mrdunno .. I am trying to install 12.04 on x3100 M5 server with RAID 01. Creating RAID 1 readonly mode and error "operation not permitted  to write on disk"
[19:18] <madhu> Myrtti .. I will post it
[19:19] <mrdunno> madhu, do you have drivers for your raid bridge?
[19:20] <madhu> Mrdunno .. No. But by default all drivers are included
[19:20] <mrdunno> madhu, in the system, this raid is visible?
[19:20] <madhu> Mydunno.  Created in BIOS RAID 1 and initialling
[19:21] <mrdunno> madhu, hm..
[19:21] <madhu> Mydunno .. Partitions are also creaing. But shoiwng raid1 readonly
[19:21] <mrdunno> in bios or ubuntu?
[19:21] <madhu> Mydunno . I tried in different way also.
[19:22] <madhu> Mrdunno ... Through Desktop 64bit CD : Using creating MSDOS New partitioncreated MSDOS New partition table on 2 HDDs. But the exising BIOS RAID 1 config lost  table on 2 HDDs  After BIOS RAID 1 Config :- created MSDOS New partition table on 2 HDDs. But the exising BIOS RAID 1 config lost.
[19:23] <madhu> Mrdunno .. In BIOS fine and showing 1 TB Space
[19:24] <Darlucilic> Hey guys. How can i rotate a background image in Ubuntu?
[19:24] <mrdunno> mdadm  - - monitor
[19:24] <madhu> Mrdunno ... the image is showing RAIDraid1 read only
[19:24] <tortib> Darlucilic, that's DE dependent
[19:24] <Darlucilic> what do you mean?
[19:24] <tortib> Darlucilic, are you using Unity/
[19:25] <tortib> depends on the Desktop Env that you're using
[19:25] <Darlucilic> I dont know
[19:25] <Darlucilic> how can i find out?!
[19:25] <madhu> Mrdunno .. I can able to install in without RAID
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> Darlucilic  does it have a bar on the left? if yes, it's unity
[19:25] <Darlucilic> yeah it's on the left side
[19:28] <Guy1524> is it possible to add applications to your live usb that are retained between reboots w/o persistence
[19:28] <Guy1524> I just want unity tweak tool to be on the live usb by default
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> Guy1524  yes, there are tools to modify the .iso, not sure which are still supported and/or maintained
[19:29] <mrdunno> madhu, lspci, ppease, show
[19:29] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: As you stipulate, no .. as Life is running in ram .. and when rebooting ram is cleared .
[19:30] <Darlucilic> So how i can rotate the background image again in unity?
[19:30] <madhu> Mrdunno .. Presently Im not in my office. I came out.
[19:30] <up2late> would ubuntu be the best distro for a 'newbie'?
[19:31] <tortib> up2late, for humans by huamns, you betcha
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> up2late  boot a live dvd/usb and see if you like it
[19:31] <tortib> up2late, it's a variant of debian so you would learn how debian works.
[19:31] <up2late> im curently running debian and just not getting it
[19:31] <mrdunno> madhu, Ok. if you want help tomorrow, you can write me to yan@dark0ff.xyz
[19:31] <riqj> hello again, just for the sake of clarity, I am about to apply the fsck solution, and would like to ask if I can just apply it from another system on my disk, instead of a live cd/usb
[19:31] <EmeraldExplorer> I installed the application "Main Menu" on Ubuntu 16.04 (I also rebooted my computer) and even though it shows I installed it (I can also run it) from software, it does not appear when searching for applications. Is there any way to fix this?
[19:32] <madhu> Mrdunno.. Is it your mail ID
[19:32] <mrdunno> mail, yes
[19:32] <riqj> just would like to know if it has any risks in the case of fsck to apply it from a live cd or another OS on HDD
[19:32] <up2late> should i get ubuntu desktop or server?
[19:33] <Guy1524> k
[19:33] <Bashing-om> riqj: So long as the target system in NOT mounted . then yes one can run fsck from a different installed OS .
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> up2late  begin with the desktop
[19:33] <madhu> Mrdunno... I will send the whole problem now
[19:33] <up2late> kk, thx
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> !manual | up2late
[19:33] <riqj> Bashing-om, thank you! I will go on with it, then
[19:34] <kaosu> Will placing a bash script in /etc/kernel/postinst.d force it to be ran each time you upgrade your kernel? I have create a script to automatically sign and import keys for some third-party drivers so I can use them without disabling secure boot, but I would like to automate the process of updating it for each new kernel upgrade.
[19:35] <Bashing-om> riqj: I say again .. the target must not be in use ( mounted ) when the file system check is ran .
[19:36] <Guy1524> to dual boot windows 10 w/ ubuntu 16.04, do I need to modify the windows partition in windows first?
[19:36] <Guy1524> by modify I mean resize
[19:36] <bekks> !dualboot | Guy1524
[19:36] <riqj> Bashing-om, thank you again for assuring me! I am aware that fsck needs an unmounted partition to work on
[19:36] <Darlucilic> @MonkeyDust So how i can fix this image then? Even time i set it as a desktop background it turns in the side
[19:38] <Bashing-om> riqj: :) .. just trying to insure there is no mishap . (May have to turn swap off also )
[19:39] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer, type alacarte in dash
[19:41] <EmeraldExplorer> ioria: it is giving me suggestions to install it
[19:41] <EmeraldExplorer> but it doesn't recognize it is already installed
[19:41] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer, Main Menu is alacarte ...   dpkg -l alacarte     ?
[19:43] <Tex_Nick> the way i prefer to to dual boot win/lin is to put win on one HD then install lin on a second HD, grub will list win without modifying the win mbr, that way the 2 HD's can also be used independently ... don't know if that works well with secure boot though ?
[19:43] <EmeraldExplorer> ioria: http://hastebin.com/ruroxuhosu.1c
[19:44] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer, ok, and if you type alacarte in dash (not in terminal) ... what happens ?
[19:45] <EmeraldExplorer> ioria: all it shows is alacarte_alacarte.png
[19:45] <EmeraldExplorer> and when looking in apps it just shows that it is a suggested app to downlaod
[19:46] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer, when you type alacarte it should display 'Main Menu' , click on it and it opens ....  no ?
[19:46] <EmeraldExplorer> More suggestions:
[19:46] <EmeraldExplorer> FREE main Menu
[19:47] <EmeraldExplorer> there is nothing else on the screen
[19:47] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  ls /usr/share/applications/alacarte.desktop ?
[19:48] <EmeraldExplorer> yup it exists there
[19:49] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  can you paste it ?
[19:55] <EmeraldExplorer> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18413297/
[19:57] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  it's ok
[19:58] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  ls /usr/share/app-install/icons/alacarte.png
[19:58] <EmeraldExplorer> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MJiN8KYR/irccloudcapture-1137974155.jpg
[19:58] <goddard> anyone made a snap for google chrome?
[19:59] <EmeraldExplorer> ioria: it says it does not exist
[19:59] <OerHeks> goddard, if one has, you would have found it.
[19:59] <Guy1524> I just installed ubuntu on a laptop to dual boot and it just boots into windows!
[20:00] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  mmm.... don't know what 'Free' is ... installed from Software Center (gnome center) ?
[20:00] <Guy1524> the option I chose during installation was install ubuntu alongside windows boot manager
[20:01] <bprompt> Guy1524:     hold down the Shift key while booting, then the Grub menu will show up, from there, pick Ubuntu, once logged in, do a -> sudo update-grub;    <--- then reboot
[20:01] <Guy1524> ok thanks
[20:01] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer, ok, you installed ClassicMenu Indicator
[20:02] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer, not Main Menu, i think
[20:03] <Guy1524> bprompt: holding down shift does nothing
[20:05] <EmeraldExplorer> ioria: I can click "Free Download" and it still won't show
[20:05] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer, from terminal run alacarte
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> Guy1524  try Ctrl, during boot
[20:06] <Guy1524> ok
[20:06] <Guy1524> this is windows 10 btw
[20:07] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: Win10 == UEFI system .. try spamming the escape key during boot to get the grub boot menu .
[20:07] <Guy1524> ok
[20:08] <bprompt> hmmm
[20:08] <riqj> I get this output from fsck, and the problem persists: paste.ubuntu.com/18413846
[20:09] <Guy1524> spamming escape did nothing
[20:09] <Guy1524> neither did holding CTRL
[20:10] <bprompt> riqj:     some of us, just got here... or were AFK... so... the output from fsck though, means, the filesystem is ok
[20:10] <Guy1524> well, all spamming escape did is bring to a bios menu, but then I did continue and continued to spam escape
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> Guy1524  how did you install ubuntu?
[20:10] <Guy1524> through a flash drive
[20:10] <Guy1524> and I did install ubuntu alongside windows boot manager
[20:10] <riqj> bprompt, my original problem is that I get this error following an upgrade to 16.04.: http://askubuntu.com/questions/646414/welcome-to-emergency-mode-think-it-is-a-fsck-problem
[20:11] <Guy1524> http://www.howtogeek.com/126016/three-ways-to-access-the-windows-8-boot-options-menu/
[20:11] <Guy1524> is this relevant?
[20:11] <akik> holy shi... https://www.amazon.com/PRIV-BlackBerry-Unlocked-Smartphone-Warranty/dp/B0169SNI3C $417
[20:11] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  or maybe you installed both....
[20:11] <riqj> and I applied the solution in the first reply post on this page
[20:12] <akik> sorry wrong channel
[20:12] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  dpkg -l   classicmenu-indicator
[20:12] <koliko> i have configure freeradius server test it with radtest and it was successful. But when i try to connect via my hotspot i get radius not responding. please help me
[20:13] <bprompt> riqj:     the error output is for /dev/sdb1   the fsck you did was for /dev/sda5, that simply means, the 5th partition on the local fixed disk is fine, whilst the 1st partition on a slave drive is not
[20:13] <EmeraldExplorer> ioria: ok
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> koliko  is that a server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[20:13] <EmeraldExplorer> dpkg-query: no packages found matching classicmenu-indicator
[20:13] <koliko> Ok thanks @MonkeyDust
[20:13] <bprompt> Guy1524:    did you do a windows10 UEFI install? and thus an Ubuntu UEFI as well
[20:14] <riqj> bprompt, the online question doesnt belong to me. my problematic partition is sda5, therefore I applied the solution to it
[20:14] <Guy1524> windows 10 came preinstalled on this laptop
[20:14] <Guy1524> I booted the live usb through uefi
[20:14] <bprompt> riqj:    well, seems your sda5 is ok though :)
[20:14] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer, and can you run alacarte from teminal ?
[20:14] <EmeraldExplorer> ioria: yes
[20:14] <Guy1524> ok I found it
[20:14] <Guy1524> I am booting into ubuntu
[20:14] <riqj> bprompt, why, then, I am getting 'welcome to emergency mode' screen?
[20:15] <bprompt> Guy1524:   under the couch? =)
[20:15] <EmeraldExplorer> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GOmKD4v5/irccloudcapture920427830.jpg
[20:15] <Guy1524> so when I am in, will sudo update-grub fix it?
[20:15] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer, and you can't find it in Dash ?
[20:15] <riqj> I already back up my whole home folder, so I guess it should be easier to reinstall the OS in this partition..would you agree?
[20:15] <EmeraldExplorer> ioria: nope. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MJiN8KYR/irccloudcapture-1137974155.jpg
[20:16] <riqj> backed up*
[20:16] <bprompt> riqj:    hmmm well.. hmm assuming it may be a grub issue... tried doing a sudo update-grub and then a grub-install, dunno where you have it but I'd assume sda1, thus sudo grub-install /dev/sda1  yet?
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> riqj  yes, and during install ... select 'something else' and create a separate /home partiton
[20:17] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer, sudo updatedb   and paste    locate alacarte.png
[20:17] <bprompt> riqj:    well... depends.. but a reinstall, would take around 20mins, so likely
[20:17] <Guy1524> sudo update-grub did not work
[20:17] <Guy1524> I am going to try something else
[20:18] <EmeraldExplorer> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ENioozr1/irccloudcapture-1435815807.jpg
[20:18] <riqj> bprompt, yes, since I secured the whole home folder, I wouldnt mind reinstalling..though not the install itself, but customizing it, is what takes time :)
[20:19] <Guy1524> guys I really need help, how do I override get grub to boot instead of windows boot manager
[20:19] <EmeraldExplorer> http://hastebin.com/idolicitac.avrasm
[20:19] <madhu> Hi Smith. May chat wih you ow
[20:19] <Guy1524> please, the only way I can get into ubuntu now is through going into the settings and booting and recovery mode
[20:20] <bprompt> riqj:    well, most of the customization, about 95% of it is at $HOME, I do the same, and  yes, it takes a while, and yes, I back mine often for the same reason, just did yesterday :)
[20:21] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  think this line is interesting /var/lib/app-info/icons/ubuntu-xenial-universe/64x64/alacarte_alacarte.png
[20:21] <administrador> Hello. I have Lubuntu 14.04 64bits. AMD drivers. When I set the resolution to 1920x1080 the whole desktop looks bigger than my screen, in Windows AMD has an option to scale the whole image, how can I scale down the image in Lubuntu?
[20:21] <ioria> administrador, are you a bot ?
[20:22] <EmeraldExplorer> ioria: how is that interesting?
[20:23] <administrador> ioria, did somebody answer me yet?
[20:23] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  now i'm on 14.04 and don't even have a /var/lib/app-info/ directory ....
[20:24] <EmeraldExplorer> ioria: well idk, I am on 16.04 lol
[20:24] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  try to backup that file .... and see if it shows up in dash
[20:25] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  sudo mv var/lib/app-info/icons/ubuntu-xenial-universe/64x64/alacarte_alacarte.png var/lib/app-info/icons/ubuntu-xenial-universe/64x64/alacarte_alacarte.png.backup
[20:25] <EmeraldExplorer> ioria: remove and backup?
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> administrador  use xrandr / arandr to change the screen resolution
[20:25] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  nope, only backup, rename if you want
[20:26] <EmeraldExplorer> ok ioria
[20:26] <EmeraldExplorer> ps put a slash in front of var :p
[20:26] <ioria> right
[20:26] <administrador> MonkeyDust, i can change the screen resolution in amdcccl but the image streches beyond my screen size
[20:28] <EmeraldExplorer> ioria: no luck :/
[20:28] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  oh, sorry about that :/
[20:28] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  reverse it
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> administrador  what image? the desktop background?
[20:29] <EmeraldExplorer> ok did that ioria
[20:29] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  run out of ideas... maybe purge and reinstall alacarte
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> administrador  what's amdcccl
[20:30] <ioria> EmeraldExplorer,  sudo apt-get purge alacarte , sudo apt-get autoremove, sudo apt-get install alacarte
[20:32] <administrador> MonkeyDust, the whole desktop. i cant see the menu, lubuntu uses lxrandr but that does not solved the problem
[20:33] <administrador> MonkeyDust, http://www.pasteall.org/pic/104773
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> administrador  ah, Radeon and fglrx ... there are issues with that
[20:35] <administrador> MonkeyDust, for some reason one can see the whole desktop in the scrot screenshot, but in my screen it is all stretched
[20:36] <administrador> MonkeyDust, i am using propietary drivers
[20:36] <administrador> 14.04 LTS
[20:36] <kaosu> I have proposed a new policy change on the development mailing list. What do you guys think about the following proposal: https://goo.gl/bWOueG
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> kaosu  that's for #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:37] <chrishuang1206> hello everyone
[20:37] <chrishuang1206> i have never used linux before
[20:37] <chrishuang1206> which books would you recommend to study first before installing and using ubuntu
[20:37] <chrishuang1206> ?
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> !manual | chrishuang1206
[20:39] <kaosu> MonkeyDust: Thanks for the tip. I will take my question to that channel.
[20:40] <chrishuang1206> MonkeyDust, thank you :-)
[20:45] <chrishuang1206> is "The Official Ubuntu Book" also helpful for linux beginner?
[20:45] <goddard> OerHeks: is it hard to make snaps?
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> chrishuang1206  you too, better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:46] <administrador> No solution, eh?
[20:47] <administrador> i'll keep working on windows for productivity in the mean time...
[20:47] <administrador> in windows.
[20:47] <chrishuang1206> what's the topic for #ubuntu-offtopic?
[20:47] <administrador> thanks anyway.
[20:47] <chrishuang1206> i am not chatting
[20:51] <Guest69557> hi
[20:53] <MelRay> Checking my router log I saw this: [LAN access from remote] from 61.136.195.22:6000 to 192.168.X.X:80 however the Class C it port forwarded to is for the linux machine that isn't powered on. Do you think perhaps someone exploited the router itself?
[20:53] <lopkoi9> hi
[20:54] <MelRay> How could it connect if the machine isn't powered on?
[20:54] <lopkoi9> i installed cli interface, and it wont get to login without going through recoveyr first and then resuming login. what is the proble?
[20:54] <lopkoi9> if i install lightdm, then it works
[20:55] <lopkoi9> but i want to get to cli login
[20:56] <lopkoi9> hello?
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> !text | lopkoi9 you mean this
[20:57] <lopkoi9> where do you add this in /etc/default/grub?
[20:58] <Bashing-om> lopkoi9:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" .
[20:58] <lopkoi9> are you still there MonkeyDust
[20:58] <lopkoi9> ok
[20:58] <lopkoi9> that will get me to cli login?
[20:59] <Bashing-om> lopkoi9: Yeah ... rememebr to ' sudo update-grub ' to propogate the change .
[20:59] <lopkoi9> ok homie. i will do it now
[21:01] <riqj> so what caused the emergency mode is that I haven't run update-upgrade before running 'lsb-release-upgrade -d' ?
[21:06] <msev-> how would i "ping" the bluetooth of my Nexus 5 from the terminal (for presence detection)?
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> msev-  you ping an ip address, not a bluetooth device
[21:07] <msev-> ok so how do i detect it :)
[21:07] <msev-> since its not like a beacon
[21:08] <msev-> that it constantly emits those signals
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> msev-  iirc bluetooth is a protocol, so what's the device?
[21:09] <msev-> Nexus5
[21:09] <msev-> like sudo hcitool lecc doesn't work
[21:09] <msev-> sudo hcitool lescan also doesn't
[21:10] <fub> I'm trying to set up a openvpn connection with network-manager. I import the .ovpn file, but it looks like the CA cert is not loaded. I pulled the cert file out of the .ovpn file to foo.crt and tried to connect, but the connection times out.
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> ok, it's a smartphone
[21:10] <msev-> sudo hcitool scan only detects it while i'm in the Settings-Bluetooth, while I want it to be detected even if the screen is off
[21:10] <fub> Using sudo openvpn myfile.ovpn works, so what can be the problem here?
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> msev-  try blueman
[21:11] <msev-> what would be the respective command?
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> msev-  sudo apt install blueman
[21:12] <msev-> i have the applet already installed
[21:12] <msev-> is that enough
[22:09] <helpme123> Hi
[22:09] <Myrtti> hi.
[22:10] <helpme123> Click HERE --> http://bit.ly/29cgQcu <--
[22:13] <elky> Yeah don't click that link
[22:21] <user___> Hi
[22:21] <user___> Can I install rpm by default on Ubuntu ?
[22:24] <rypervenche> user___: Why would you want to?
[22:25] <OerHeks> user___, no. simple answer
[22:26] <rypervenche> user___: It is possible, but 99% of the time it's not actually what you want to be doing. What are you trying to accomplish?
[22:26] <hammer25> hey guys, i just installed atom, anyone know how to make it the default app used when opening certain file extensions? .py, .txt etc.?
[22:29] <OerHeks> hammer25, on unity, systemsettings > details > default applications, if it is not there, there are no mimetypes AFAIK
[22:30] <user___> rypervenche install Oracle Database Express Edition 11g
[22:30] <OerHeks> c/-no >. gedit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[22:33] <user___> Is it not possible support different kinds of packages on one distro?
[22:38] <hammer25> OerHeks: thats what i found, there isn't even a section for text. what do you mean there are no mimetypes?
[22:39] <user___> ok, bye
[22:41] <OerHeks> hammer25, i made a correction c/-no
[22:41] <OerHeks> if there is no mimetype, add it ?
[22:47] <hammer25> OerHeks I'm not sure what " >. gedit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list" means?
[22:53] <hammer25> OerHeks: nevermind, ended up being way more simple than I thought. Thank you for your time!
[23:05] <skinux> What is the current DVD rip program for Unity/Gnome?
[23:06] <blackbird_> Hi any survivors ?
[23:07] <perrin_aybara> hammer25, dvdrip, handbrake, etc.   just put in dvd rip linux in google
[23:08] <blackbird_> Any C++ coders ?
[23:16] <arobase> How get firefox executed from a remote server display on my Ubuntu 14.0.4 ?
[23:17] <arobase> I used ssh with -X and -Y but still do not get diplay
[23:19] <arobase> The remote server is RHEL, I can access it only with ssh
[23:20] <Ben64> arobase: you're in the wrong channel, this is Ubuntu support
[23:21] <arobase> Ben64: my issue concerne Ubuntu also  see may first post "How get firefox executed from a remote server display on my Ubuntu 14.0.4 ?"
[23:22] <Ben64> all the important bits need to happen on the server, like x forwarding or vnc or whatever, so ask #rhel what is best for what you want
[23:23] <arobase> Ben64:with Windows laptop using Xwing and putty, I'm able to get firefox of RHEL display...
[23:24] <arobase> Only with Ubuntu I have the issue... that I do not understand
[23:41] <ibrahim> selam
[23:51] <skinnymg1> howdy all
[23:55] <qu1j0t3> hi, I'm on stretch/sid. OpenJDK 7 isn't in the default repositories. Does anyone know a good way to get it, or whichdebian release still has it by default?
[23:55] <ivan_> hey
[23:55] <porjaus> Why does apt-get purge and removal via software center leave remnants of apps in my dot files?
[23:56] <porjaus> I had an app with a bug and I couldn't seem to get it fully uninstalled and reinstalled and it turned out it was reconnecting with left over bits that were causing the problem
[23:56] <porjaus> not until I manually removed everything I could find did it reinstall and let me start from scratch