| swalladge | i'm trying to use ubuntu-device-flash, but I'm getting 'cache formatting was not successful, flashing may fail, check your partitions on device' | 01:22 |
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| swalladge | and it's stuck on the 'powered by ubuntu' logo on boot | 01:22 |
| swalladge | nevermind - managed to get it working by using the bq flashtool | 01:45 |
| swalladge | i think i may have messed up a partition somehow | 01:45 |
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| faenil | does anyone know what sets the LD_LIBRARY_PATH when you "start unity8"? | 10:34 |
| faenil | it's not unity8.conf upstart session | 10:34 |
| bregma | faenil, simple answer is no one, it's pretty unusual to set that variable for regular system software and I don't see it set for unity8 on any of my devices or desktops | 11:14 |
| faenil | bregma: I think it's probably coming from /etc/environment | 11:14 |
| faenil | not sure what the full path is though | 11:14 |
| bregma | maybe something has altered that on your system(s)? | 11:14 |
| faenil | no, I just want to know how it is set | 11:15 |
| bregma | you're trying to find some place to set it then? | 11:15 |
| ogra_ | how are you determining it is altered ? | 11:15 |
| ogra_ | (it isnt in /etc/environment) | 11:15 |
| bregma | it *is* a classic security exploit, after all | 11:15 |
| faenil | ogra_: it is | 11:16 |
| ogra_ | well, the app launcher definitely sets it to point to the confined FS area | 11:16 |
| ogra_ | faenil, nou on any of my devices or in the code that mangles /etc/environment | 11:17 |
| ogra_ | *not on | 11:17 |
| faenil | I'm looking for a way to start unity8 with a modified path, but without resorting to starting it without upstart | 11:17 |
| ogra_ | if yours has it you must have manually changed it | 11:17 |
| bregma | you can examine what it is actually set to in unity8 with the comand "tr '\000' '\n' </proc/$(pidof unity8)/environ | grep LD" | 11:17 |
| faenil | bregma: yeah I know, I want to chage its value though :) | 11:18 |
| faenil | and exporting vars before using the start command is obviously not working :) | 11:18 |
| bregma | you can always copy unity.conf into ~/.config/upstart and modify it locally if you're just testing something | 11:18 |
| bregma | unity8.conf | 11:18 |
| faenil | bregma: ah right, good that'll do, thank you | 11:18 |
| faenil | yes it's for performance related investigations | 11:19 |
| ogra_ | you can use initctl | 11:19 |
| ogra_ | to set it for any job | 11:19 |
| faenil | me looks for manpage | 11:20 |
| ogra_ | (note that you ned to do it from within the running session or you need to extract the UPSTRAT_SESSION variable from the session and set it first) | 11:20 |
| faenil | yep, I'm already exporting upstart_session | 11:20 |
| faenil | I'm doing everything from inside a chroot | 11:20 |
| faenil | (on device) | 11:20 |
| faenil | ogra_: ah initctl set-env, although that's one var at a time right? | 11:24 |
| faenil | there's no way to just source a file | 11:24 |
| ogra_ | well, you can write a loop | 11:24 |
| faenil | I think having a custom .conf is quicker | 11:24 |
| faenil | of course | 11:24 |
| faenil | although that will screw my host upstart environment | 11:30 |
| faenil | mmm maybe better if I just run it without upstart | 11:30 |
| miculou | hi all | 11:54 |
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| faenil | ogra_: btw just fyi, this is on my MX4 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/18444241/ | 13:17 |
| ogra_ | faenil, hmm, interesting, not on the pro5 | 13:18 |
| ogra_ | (and /etc/environemnt should not have anything but PATH set at all ... thats a long standing bug) | 13:19 |
| mhall119 | bregma: what PPAs shouldn't be added anymore? I can update my blog post to add a warning | 13:28 |
| bregma | mhall119, *only* the stable phone overlay | 13:34 |
| bregma | mhall119, did you create bugs for the other problems you encountered? I found the file-manager bug (it's still happening) but if you have others handy that would be helpful | 13:37 |
| bregma | eg. ssh-agent not starting (because gnome-keyring assumed gnome-session is running... something we may be able to work around) | 13:37 |
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| mhall119 | bregma: | 13:50 |
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| mhall119 | bregma: remove only the stable phone PPA, or leave on that one? | 13:52 |
| mhall119 | I can't remember if I filed a bug with the file manager or not, but I did talk to popey about it a while ago | 13:53 |
| bregma | mhall119, you should install only the stable phone overlay PPA, no silos | 13:53 |
| bregma | mhall119, I definitely found the bug on the file manager | 13:53 |
| bregma | mhall119, also, a recent change landed so the package you need to install is now simplified to unity8-desktop-session (not -mir, although there is a transitional package that redirects) | 13:54 |
| mhall119 | bregma: thanks | 13:58 |
| ahoneybun | mariogrip: https://plus.google.com/+MarkRife/posts/VRt2r5RjWaR | 14:02 |
| ahoneybun | OPO is active while saying Bluetooth is not working but the page says it is and other things still don't work | 14:03 |
| sergiusens | mhall119 when using the terminal, do you have issues with input (I have to go to one of the settings or terminal tabs thing to get input back) | 14:16 |
| sergiusens | been having that issue for a while | 14:16 |
| ogra_ | i think there was a bug about it | 14:17 |
| sergiusens | ogra_ is there anyone working on the terminal still? | 14:25 |
| sergiusens | feels pretty important ;-) | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, i thnk popey knows | 14:26 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | 17:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | anyone here? | 17:21 |
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| popey | SebthreeBQM10HD: hi | 17:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | popey, if a blueetooth device says it will work with Android or mostly, then it should work with Ubuntu Touch as well? | 17:42 |
| popey | depends on the device | 17:43 |
| popey | some require apps | 17:44 |
| popey | others are just media devices like speakers/micrphones/headsets | 17:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | popey, oh ok | 17:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | popey, or a driver software? toner things didn't go well | 17:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I seen like a keyboard with a touch pad earlier, from something else | 17:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that was cheap as well, but not sure how well it would work | 17:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or not | 17:45 |
| popey | keyboards / mice should just work | 17:46 |
| popey | they're input devices | 17:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | popey, well this is a bit differnt, a air mouse thing | 17:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | popey, he h I got certain tech things I want to buy in the next three to four months let's say, and then done for the year I think buying tech, unless some rather interesting crowd funded thing or something like that possibly | 17:47 |
| pwca | hi, I am trying to connect my Android cell phone as a storage device but when I plug the USB in it just recharges. | 18:26 |
| pwca | this worked a while ago and now randomly doesn't. | 18:26 |
| pwca | the cell phone is an HTC M8 and my OS is Ubuntu Gnome 15.10. | 18:26 |
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| grasstype | So people that use the phone/tablet as a daily driver... what do you miss? | 22:30 |
| k1l | i guess: whatsapp :X | 22:35 |
| grasstype | what is so amazing about whatsapp? | 22:35 |
| grasstype | I swear, I keep hearing about these new programs and websites and such that are new hotness, and I never understand WHY | 22:36 |
| grasstype | It's how I know I'm old I guess | 22:36 |
| k1l | well, its a messenger (bought by facebook). but this is just a problem if the people around you use that because they refuse to make a client for ubuntu touch so far. and since its closed software that is the issue | 22:40 |
| Keziolio | and if you don't use whatsapp ubuntu-touch doesn't work on your device | 22:56 |
| Keziolio | fml | 22:56 |
| grasstype | Keziolio, what do you mean? | 22:59 |
| Keziolio | it was a joke, but ubuntu doesn't work for real, i suppose it's not compatible with android 6? | 23:01 |
| k1l | Keziolio: compatible? | 23:02 |
| Keziolio | a guy once told be that android 6 is bad for modding | 23:02 |
| Keziolio | i use multirom on an opo | 23:02 |
| k1l | ubuntu-touch is not a mod. | 23:02 |
| Keziolio | and it doesn't work on cm13 | 23:02 |
| Keziolio | but multirom is | 23:02 |
| Acou_Bass | grasstype: i ran the phone as a 'daily driver' for a few months - the main thing i missed was a good messenger for multiple protocols - there isa hangouts app that worked awesomely however theres nothing for FB chat aside from using their webapp which is a bit meh and doesnt always work | 23:03 |
| Keziolio | it "bootloops" | 23:03 |
| grasstype | it's always weird to me when a webapp doesn't work | 23:04 |
| Acou_Bass | well | 23:05 |
| Acou_Bass | its facebooks fault | 23:05 |
| grasstype | like... it's a webapp... isn't the whole point is that it will always work? Thats the promise, right? | 23:05 |
| Acou_Bass | you open the facebook webapp (it works fine), you click the 'messenger' icon in the centre, and facebook gaives you an unclosable banner telling you to download their android app | 23:05 |
| Acou_Bass | so not really ubuntu's fault | 23:05 |
| grasstype | lol, that's amazing | 23:05 |
| grasstype | i mean, in the "every screw up is funny" way | 23:05 |
| Acou_Bass | ALSO, i miss having notifications | 23:05 |
| Acou_Bass | for my e-mail, for my twitterz, for my FB/hangouts messages | 23:06 |
| grasstype | I know the gmail app gives notifications | 23:06 |
| Acou_Bass | yeah, the gmail webapp does weirdly | 23:06 |
| Acou_Bass | no other webapps do, and the real e-mail app doesnt | 23:07 |
| grasstype | Wish dekko did. Or if it does, wish I knew how to make it | 23:07 |
| grasstype | I like how smooth the notifications are though | 23:07 |
| grasstype | On android ntoficiations annoyed me way too much | 23:07 |
| Acou_Bass | when you get an app that does notifications right (ie. telegram, or the text messaging app) | 23:08 |
| Acou_Bass | they are amazing | 23:08 |
| Acou_Bass | its just a shame no other apps seem to do them | 23:08 |
| Acou_Bass | XD | 23:08 |
| grasstype | If I ever get an ubuntu phone, I will definitely miss facetime | 23:09 |
| Acou_Bass | im actually using sailfishOS now on my nexus 4 - FOR NOW it is far better as a daily driver for me | 23:09 |
| grasstype | videochat with the wife once a day really makes 2nd shift better | 23:09 |
| Acou_Bass | but im keeping my eye on ubuntu and plan to switch back once some things are fixed | 23:10 |
| grasstype | I honestly just assume all the other open source ones are dead. Sorry Sailfish guys, Jolla guys, Firefox OS guys, if your'e still working on that stuff | 23:10 |
| Acou_Bass | wel | 23:11 |
| Acou_Bass | firefox is dead :P | 23:11 |
| grasstype | I wish it didn't die, but I also couldn't see their market that well | 23:11 |
| Acou_Bass | well... 'firefox OS' is dead - 'B2G OS' (ie. the community-ran fork) is still going | 23:11 |
| Acou_Bass | i used firefoxOS for a really long time as a daily driver | 23:11 |
| Acou_Bass | i honestly got along really well with it | 23:11 |
| Acou_Bass | and the phone costed me like £35 brand new... really cant complain at that price | 23:12 |
| grasstype | community run forks only die when the last enthusiast is gone. So that's at least another 10 years of life | 23:12 |
| Acou_Bass | yeah im definitely gonna put b2g OS on my firefox phone when i can be bothered | 23:12 |
| Acou_Bass | really interested to see where they tatke it | 23:12 |
| grasstype | Did it still use the gecko engine? | 23:13 |
| Acou_Bass | yeah it did... there were talks of switching it over to servo but i dont think that materialised yet | 23:14 |
| grasstype | Every month or two I see something about servo. Hows it coming along? | 23:14 |
| grasstype | I mean... when it is getting into the main browser? | 23:15 |
| Acou_Bass | no idea to be honest, i havent really tested it - they are putting out nightly builds though (not in actual firefox nightly, a seperate build) | 23:15 |
| grasstype | darn. Well, here's to hoping it's ready within a year or so. Maybe we can take back a small bit of chrome marketshare with new and shiny | 23:16 |
| Acou_Bass | e10s is all working though, that should make it to mainline firefox soon | 23:16 |
| grasstype | e10s? | 23:17 |
| Acou_Bass | the whole multi-process thing | 23:17 |
| grasstype | oh, nice | 23:17 |
| grasstype | electrolysis, ah, sweet | 23:17 |
| Keziolio | how do you debug ubuntu touch on a real device? I got a log from multirom but it feels like dmesg output | 23:21 |
| Keziolio | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Keziolio/de1605258c9cb16524591d3b5c9ef960/raw/73699b55c720518b6e3d1d7ff279f2ef155900bf/gistfile1.txt | 23:23 |
| mhall119 | sergiusens: I never had an input problem with the terminal | 23:51 |
| sergiusens | mhall119 when unsing a bt keyboard and switching windows it always worked for you? lucky! In any case ogra_ gave me a bug number to look at | 23:53 |
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