[01:22] i'm trying to use ubuntu-device-flash, but I'm getting 'cache formatting was not successful, flashing may fail, check your partitions on device' [01:22] and it's stuck on the 'powered by ubuntu' logo on boot [01:45] nevermind - managed to get it working by using the bq flashtool [01:45] i think i may have messed up a partition somehow === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === Tobirium1 is now known as Tobirium === victor_bq1 is now known as victor_bq === LarreaMikel1 is now known as LarreaMikel === diplo_ is now known as diplo === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [10:34] does anyone know what sets the LD_LIBRARY_PATH when you "start unity8"? [10:34] it's not unity8.conf upstart session [11:14] faenil, simple answer is no one, it's pretty unusual to set that variable for regular system software and I don't see it set for unity8 on any of my devices or desktops [11:14] bregma: I think it's probably coming from /etc/environment [11:14] not sure what the full path is though [11:14] maybe something has altered that on your system(s)? [11:15] no, I just want to know how it is set [11:15] you're trying to find some place to set it then? [11:15] how are you determining it is altered ? [11:15] (it isnt in /etc/environment) [11:15] it *is* a classic security exploit, after all [11:16] ogra_: it is [11:16] well, the app launcher definitely sets it to point to the confined FS area [11:17] faenil, nou on any of my devices or in the code that mangles /etc/environment [11:17] *not on [11:17] I'm looking for a way to start unity8 with a modified path, but without resorting to starting it without upstart [11:17] if yours has it you must have manually changed it [11:17] you can examine what it is actually set to in unity8 with the comand "tr '\000' '\n' bregma: yeah I know, I want to chage its value though :) [11:18] and exporting vars before using the start command is obviously not working :) [11:18] you can always copy unity.conf into ~/.config/upstart and modify it locally if you're just testing something [11:18] unity8.conf [11:18] bregma: ah right, good that'll do, thank you [11:19] yes it's for performance related investigations [11:19] you can use initctl [11:19] to set it for any job [11:20] me looks for manpage [11:20] (note that you ned to do it from within the running session or you need to extract the UPSTRAT_SESSION variable from the session and set it first) [11:20] yep, I'm already exporting upstart_session [11:20] I'm doing everything from inside a chroot [11:20] (on device) [11:24] ogra_: ah initctl set-env, although that's one var at a time right? [11:24] there's no way to just source a file [11:24] well, you can write a loop [11:24] I think having a custom .conf is quicker [11:24] of course [11:30] although that will screw my host upstart environment [11:30] mmm maybe better if I just run it without upstart [11:54] hi all === dpm_ is now known as dpm === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:17] ogra_: btw just fyi, this is on my MX4 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/18444241/ [13:18] faenil, hmm, interesting, not on the pro5 [13:19] (and /etc/environemnt should not have anything but PATH set at all ... thats a long standing bug) [13:28] bregma: what PPAs shouldn't be added anymore? I can update my blog post to add a warning [13:34] mhall119, *only* the stable phone overlay [13:37] mhall119, did you create bugs for the other problems you encountered? I found the file-manager bug (it's still happening) but if you have others handy that would be helpful [13:37] eg. ssh-agent not starting (because gnome-keyring assumed gnome-session is running... something we may be able to work around) === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson [13:50] bregma: === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson [13:52] bregma: remove only the stable phone PPA, or leave on that one? [13:53] I can't remember if I filed a bug with the file manager or not, but I did talk to popey about it a while ago [13:53] mhall119, you should install only the stable phone overlay PPA, no silos [13:53] mhall119, I definitely found the bug on the file manager [13:54] mhall119, also, a recent change landed so the package you need to install is now simplified to unity8-desktop-session (not -mir, although there is a transitional package that redirects) [13:58] bregma: thanks [14:02] mariogrip: https://plus.google.com/+MarkRife/posts/VRt2r5RjWaR [14:03] OPO is active while saying Bluetooth is not working but the page says it is and other things still don't work [14:16] mhall119 when using the terminal, do you have issues with input (I have to go to one of the settings or terminal tabs thing to get input back) [14:16] been having that issue for a while [14:17] i think there was a bug about it [14:25] ogra_ is there anyone working on the terminal still? [14:25] feels pretty important ;-) [14:26] sergiusens, i thnk popey knows === dandrader_ is now known as dandrader === genii_ is now known as genii === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === JanC is now known as Guest28478 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [17:21] hi [17:21] anyone here? === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [17:41] SebthreeBQM10HD: hi [17:42] popey, if a blueetooth device says it will work with Android or mostly, then it should work with Ubuntu Touch as well? [17:43] depends on the device [17:44] some require apps [17:44] others are just media devices like speakers/micrphones/headsets [17:45] popey, oh ok [17:45] popey, or a driver software? toner things didn't go well [17:45] I seen like a keyboard with a touch pad earlier, from something else [17:45] that was cheap as well, but not sure how well it would work [17:45] or not [17:46] keyboards / mice should just work [17:46] they're input devices [17:46] popey, well this is a bit differnt, a air mouse thing [17:47] popey, he h I got certain tech things I want to buy in the next three to four months let's say, and then done for the year I think buying tech, unless some rather interesting crowd funded thing or something like that possibly [18:26] hi, I am trying to connect my Android cell phone as a storage device but when I plug the USB in it just recharges. [18:26] this worked a while ago and now randomly doesn't. [18:26] the cell phone is an HTC M8 and my OS is Ubuntu Gnome 15.10. === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [22:30] So people that use the phone/tablet as a daily driver... what do you miss? [22:35] i guess: whatsapp :X [22:35] what is so amazing about whatsapp? [22:36] I swear, I keep hearing about these new programs and websites and such that are new hotness, and I never understand WHY [22:36] It's how I know I'm old I guess [22:40] well, its a messenger (bought by facebook). but this is just a problem if the people around you use that because they refuse to make a client for ubuntu touch so far. and since its closed software that is the issue [22:56] and if you don't use whatsapp ubuntu-touch doesn't work on your device [22:56] fml [22:59] Keziolio, what do you mean? [23:01] it was a joke, but ubuntu doesn't work for real, i suppose it's not compatible with android 6? [23:02] Keziolio: compatible? [23:02] a guy once told be that android 6 is bad for modding [23:02] i use multirom on an opo [23:02] ubuntu-touch is not a mod. [23:02] and it doesn't work on cm13 [23:02] but multirom is [23:03] grasstype: i ran the phone as a 'daily driver' for a few months - the main thing i missed was a good messenger for multiple protocols - there isa hangouts app that worked awesomely however theres nothing for FB chat aside from using their webapp which is a bit meh and doesnt always work [23:03] it "bootloops" [23:04] it's always weird to me when a webapp doesn't work [23:05] well [23:05] its facebooks fault [23:05] like... it's a webapp... isn't the whole point is that it will always work? Thats the promise, right? [23:05] you open the facebook webapp (it works fine), you click the 'messenger' icon in the centre, and facebook gaives you an unclosable banner telling you to download their android app [23:05] so not really ubuntu's fault [23:05] lol, that's amazing [23:05] i mean, in the "every screw up is funny" way [23:05] ALSO, i miss having notifications [23:06] for my e-mail, for my twitterz, for my FB/hangouts messages [23:06] I know the gmail app gives notifications [23:06] yeah, the gmail webapp does weirdly [23:07] no other webapps do, and the real e-mail app doesnt [23:07] Wish dekko did. Or if it does, wish I knew how to make it [23:07] I like how smooth the notifications are though [23:07] On android ntoficiations annoyed me way too much [23:08] when you get an app that does notifications right (ie. telegram, or the text messaging app) [23:08] they are amazing [23:08] its just a shame no other apps seem to do them [23:08] XD [23:09] If I ever get an ubuntu phone, I will definitely miss facetime [23:09] im actually using sailfishOS now on my nexus 4 - FOR NOW it is far better as a daily driver for me [23:09] videochat with the wife once a day really makes 2nd shift better [23:10] but im keeping my eye on ubuntu and plan to switch back once some things are fixed [23:10] I honestly just assume all the other open source ones are dead. Sorry Sailfish guys, Jolla guys, Firefox OS guys, if your'e still working on that stuff [23:11] wel [23:11] firefox is dead :P [23:11] I wish it didn't die, but I also couldn't see their market that well [23:11] well... 'firefox OS' is dead - 'B2G OS' (ie. the community-ran fork) is still going [23:11] i used firefoxOS for a really long time as a daily driver [23:11] i honestly got along really well with it [23:12] and the phone costed me like £35 brand new... really cant complain at that price [23:12] community run forks only die when the last enthusiast is gone. So that's at least another 10 years of life [23:12] yeah im definitely gonna put b2g OS on my firefox phone when i can be bothered [23:12] really interested to see where they tatke it [23:13] Did it still use the gecko engine? [23:14] yeah it did... there were talks of switching it over to servo but i dont think that materialised yet [23:14] Every month or two I see something about servo. Hows it coming along? [23:15] I mean... when it is getting into the main browser? [23:15] no idea to be honest, i havent really tested it - they are putting out nightly builds though (not in actual firefox nightly, a seperate build) [23:16] darn. Well, here's to hoping it's ready within a year or so. Maybe we can take back a small bit of chrome marketshare with new and shiny [23:16] e10s is all working though, that should make it to mainline firefox soon [23:17] e10s? [23:17] the whole multi-process thing [23:17] oh, nice [23:17] electrolysis, ah, sweet [23:21] how do you debug ubuntu touch on a real device? I got a log from multirom but it feels like dmesg output [23:23] https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Keziolio/de1605258c9cb16524591d3b5c9ef960/raw/73699b55c720518b6e3d1d7ff279f2ef155900bf/gistfile1.txt [23:51] sergiusens: I never had an input problem with the terminal [23:53] mhall119 when unsing a bt keyboard and switching windows it always worked for you? lucky! In any case ogra_ gave me a bug number to look at