[00:03] <SchrodingersScat> porjaus: afaik it only removes what it places on the server.  If it's a user created config from them opening then that isn't covered.
[00:04] <Guy1524> I just installed ubuntu on a laptop with intel integrated graphics 4600 and cs:go is much slower w/ same settings and there are graphical bugs, ideas?
[00:04] <porjaus> SchrodingersScat: What do you mean by "the server"? I am pretty new to Linux...this is a laptop install
[00:05] <SchrodingersScat> porjaus: s/server/machine/
[00:06] <porjaus> But isn't my home folder part of the machine?
[00:06] <porjaus> and the dotfiles within?
[00:07] <SchrodingersScat> porjaus: Those are created after the user runs it, correct?  What's purged would be something in more of a system directory like if it had configs in /etc/, etc.
[00:09] <porjaus> SchrodingersScat: The app in question was Docky. It was glitchy and I couldn't get the suggested settings to stick. It turned out it was leaving stuff in .cache, .local/share and .gonf/apps and was just applying the same troublesome setting. Not until I searched every directory I could for "docky" and manually deleted all traces did it let me properly reinstall...is this normal? Yes I believe those dotfiles are made when I run the app th
[00:10] <SchrodingersScat> afaik normal
[00:10] <MoPac> Hello. I'm having trouble with a (re-)installation (on a dual boot system, may or may not be relevant). I have a LUKS container with an lvm volume and a root lv inside that. One issue I'm having is that I can't seem to get grub or initramfs to prompt an unlock of the LUKS container before erroring-out because it can't find the vg / root volume.
[00:10] <arobase>  What the equivalent of xorg-x11-xaut for ubuntu?
[00:11] <MoPac> I had a system just like this working fine before, and I knwo I didn't have to make my own hook scripts or anything...
[00:12] <porjaus> SchrodingersScat: How would I proerly remove all traces of something without doing it manually like that? Is there a command that would remove the bits from my dotfiles as well?
[00:20] <arobase> Does anyone know what my blocking me to get Forefox (exacuted from remote RHEL) to display on my Ubuntu14.04?
[00:20] <arobase> I have no issue with Windows laptop +Xming/Putty.
[00:25] <WhiteNight> arobase, X-forwarding on ssh?
[00:25] <arobase> Yes.
[00:26] <WhiteNight> from remote RHEL, when you ssh to the machine, do ssh -X
[00:26] <arobase> But "ssh -X" do not works. Got : can't display error.
[00:26] <WhiteNight> -X allows remote forwarding of X display
[00:27] <arobase> No, I do ssh - x from my laptop (Ubuntu).
[00:27] <WhiteNight> at the target machine, install xauth
[00:27] <arobase> RHEL is my production server.
[00:27] <WhiteNight> ok, so on RHEL, install xauth
[00:27] <arobase> from which I launch Firefox
[00:28] <WhiteNight> and when  you login via ssh -X ... type xauth list
[00:28] <arobase> I'm able to get firefox from RHEL on my Windows laptop with Xming/Putty.
[00:28] <WhiteNight> what is the output of xauth?
[00:29] <WhiteNight> for Windows Xming does the job for you, for linux/ubuntu client, ssh -X needs xauth
[00:29] <arobase> I can see many servers on RHEL : with X11 on host 10.0, 11.0, etc.
[00:29] <arobase> On my Ubuntu it give me localhost:0.0
[00:30] <WhiteNight> what is the output of xauth list?
[00:31] <arobase> On Ubuntu?
[00:32] <WhiteNight> arobase, please follow the steps, I will repeat for you
[00:33] <WhiteNight> from your Ubuntu machine, do ssh -X to your RHEL machine
[00:33] <WhiteNight> and then run xauth list in the same ssh session
[00:35] <JayEED> k
[00:39] <arobase> WhiteNight: From Ubuntu laptop : ssh -X IP, cannot connect !
[00:41] <belgianguy> I have a weird issue, sometimes I come back to my computer and the password field is filled with characters, but the computer just hangs
[00:42] <belgianguy> I have cats, but I would presume that entering any amount of characters shouldn't hang the PC
[00:44] <django_> so i download a .tgz file how do i install it?
[00:45] <arobase> WhitNight : I can see mny hostname/Unix : 1, or 0, or 10 , followed by MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 and something like this : 8c5b8dbff32ccbba4c01948fce21ed67
[00:52] <tgm4883> belgianguy: what version of ubuntu?
[00:53] <belgianguy> tgm4883: 15.10 as I'm blocked by the GPU driver (fglrx)
[00:54] <tgm4883> belgianguy: what GPU? The Radeon driver covers most things and I read just recently that the AMDGPU driver was released
[00:54] <tgm4883> belgianguy: the issue you are experiencing is fixed in 16.04
[00:55] <belgianguy> tgm4883: I'm afraid radeon won't be the same perfomance wise, my GPU isn't covered by amdgpu
[00:55] <tgm4883> belgianguy: what GPU?
[00:56] <belgianguy> tgm4883: I'll go and find its name
[00:56] <will__> hey, i am using ubuntu 16.04 gnome. My laptop webcam was working fine yesterday but now it not been detected by anything . i have tried lsusb and all. What should i do ?
[00:59] <belgianguy> tgm4883: AMD Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series
[00:59] <belgianguy> tgm4883: (from glxinfo)
[01:01] <belgianguy> will__:  maybe check dmseg to see if anything odd occurred?
[01:02] <belgianguy> will__: dmesg*
[01:02] <will__> yeah let me check it
[01:03] <belgianguy> will__: is it an onboard webcam or connected through USB?
[01:04] <maher> hi everyone i am new with ubuntu i have  a problem with my grub
[01:04] <will__> onboard
[01:04] <will__> belgianguy: it is onboard
[01:05] <belgianguy> will__: does it show up when you "sudo lshw" ?
[01:06] <belgianguy> (grep cam if it has it in its name)
[01:06] <tgm4883> belgianguy: hmm not sure. I would have thought a card a few years old would be fine with the radeon drivers
[01:06] <will__> getting this with dmesg = "usb 1-1.3: device descriptor read/64, error -32"
[01:07] <will__> belgianguy: grep cam does not yield any result .
[01:07] <belgianguy> tgm4883: It's supported, but the performance hit is too much (it has heat issues as it is) but I'll wait or I'll upgrade the hw (== new laptop)
[01:07] <will__> sudo lshw | grep cam
[01:07] <belgianguy> will__: what brand?
[01:07] <maher> hi everyone i am new with ubuntu i have  a problem with my grub i can't acces to my athor os
[01:08] <will__> belgianguy: vaio laptop
[01:08] <tgm4883> belgianguy: yea you would either need to upgrade or backport the fix yourself
[01:08] <belgianguy> will__: so sony, and it worked yesterday, weird
[01:09] <belgianguy> will__: do you have "Cheese" installed?
[01:09] <will__> belgianguy: yeah it is weird
[01:09] <will__> yeah already tried that
[01:09] <will__> it shows no device
[01:10] <belgianguy> will__: you'd need to look up by what driver its covered, and maybe lookup that dmesg errpr
[01:10] <belgianguy> erroe*
[01:10] <belgianguy> error**
[01:10] <belgianguy> might be a hardware faillure
[01:10] <belgianguy> will__: do you dual boot?
[01:11] <will__> belgianguy: yeah will try it in windows
[01:13] <maher> mahfiaz, hi
[01:13] <maher> Willis, ping
[01:14] <maher> Adbray, ping
[01:14] <bazhang> maher, please stop that
[01:14] <maher> bazhang, sorry !
[01:15] <maher> hi bazhang   i am new with ubuntu i have  a problem with my grub i can't acces to my athor os
[01:16] <bazhang> !grub2 | maher
[01:17] <maher> bazhang, ubottu thanx !
[01:19] <Guy1524> hey guys on a laptop with ubuntu, after rebooting, my wireless usb mouse stopped working.  Clicking works but the mouse doesn't move
[01:23] <tgm4883> Guy1524: out of curiosity, if you remove the battery from your mouse and put it back in can you move it?
[01:25] <Guy1524> tgm4883: checking now
[01:25] <Guy1524> nvm it doesn't work in windows either, its a hardware issue
[01:26] <tgm4883> hmm ,ok
[01:26] <tgm4883> Guy1524: it's not a M310 is it?
[01:27] <Guy1524> no
[01:27] <Guy1524> its some logitech one
[01:27] <Guy1524> just put in new batteries and it works
[01:27] <tgm4883> Guy1524: the M310 is a logitch one
[01:28] <Guy1524> oh
[01:28] <Guy1524> let me check
[01:28] <tgm4883> Guy1524: Did you try just removing and readding the same batteries?
[01:28] <Guy1524> M325
[01:28] <tgm4883> Guy1524: I ask, because I have the exact same issue
[01:28] <Guy1524> ya I tried that too
[01:28] <Guy1524> huh
[01:28] <Guy1524> Ill check the old battery for power
[01:29] <Guy1524> ya the old one still has power
[01:29] <Guy1524> thats weird
[01:29] <tgm4883> yea very odd
[01:30] <tgm4883> I've found it happens occasionally when I right click somehting
[01:43] <dyc3> so im running a teamspeak server, and some of my users cant connect, and some can. i can connect using server's internal ip but not the external ip. some users can connect on the external ip. any ideas?
[01:46] <user_> Why not be Ubuntu support rpm default? , Why not be one kind of packages on all Gnu/Linux distros ?
[01:47] <user_> Why not be Ubuntu support .rpm with .deb by default? , Why not be one kind of packages on all Gnu/Linux distros ?
[01:47] <bazhang> user_, try ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:48] <eggggs> dyc3, i dont have any answers but i ran into a problem connecting to a paid server had to go by ip and not website name
[01:49] <dyc3> eggggs: i tried the ip
[01:49] <OerHeks> user_, better, ubuntu invented and is going to use snap packages, available for many distro now.
[01:50] <OerHeks> trolling mirrored.
[01:52] <eggggs> anyone have link on bluetooth and  ubuntu?  i got it working one time but forgot how i did it ,   it connects but audio dont make it to headset
[01:53] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/bluetooth.html good start
[01:54] <eggggs> OerHeks ,ty
[01:56] <yuppie> hey guys I'm having an issue with logrotate... I have two kafka servers and one is working fine, the other is not compressing logs
[01:56] <yuppie> both logrotate.d/kafka.conf files are the same
[01:56] <OerHeks> eggggs, maybe reconnecting helps A2DP http://askubuntu.com/questions/775523/after-updating-to-16-04-bluetooth-audio-a2dp-mode-stopped-working
[01:57] <yuppie> one server is compressing fine, the other is not
[01:57] <yuppie> logrotate.d/kafka.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18428490/
[01:58] <yuppie> one server has server.log, that is currently being written to, and then server.log.1.gz, 2.gz, 3.gz, etc
[01:58] <yuppie> the other has no *.gz files
[01:59] <yuppie> i can also paste the output of logrotate -d if need be
[01:59] <OerHeks> check /etc/logrotate.conf, # uncomment this if you want your log files compressed #compress
[02:00] <yuppie> lmfao
[02:00] <yuppie> OerHeks thanks, it -is- commented right now!
[02:00] <OerHeks> oke, 2 places .
[02:00] <OerHeks> have fun!
[02:01] <OerHeks> (testing it)
[02:01] <yuppie> so will my older log files get compressed now?
[02:02] <OerHeks> you did check the other server for this setting?
[02:02] <yuppie> -d just said "server.log does not need rotating"
[02:02] <yuppie> ah, it's also commented there
[02:02] <yuppie> so that must not be it...
[02:06] <yuppie> OerHeks what did you mean by two places?
[02:06] <OerHeks> 2 places, current and 2nd server, as you said you had 2.
[02:06] <EmeraldExplorer> My login screen background on ubuntu 16.04 keeps resetting for some reason.
[02:07] <EmeraldExplorer> any idea what I should do? (logs)
[02:08] <OerHeks> yuppie, hard to say what is wrong here, sure you checked the configs. filepermissions ?
[02:08] <yuppie> what permissions should i check?
[02:09] <OerHeks> nut sure what is hould be, 644?
[02:09] <yuppie> i mean what files
[02:09] <yuppie>  /etc/cron.daily/logrotate perms are the same
[02:09] <OerHeks> logrotate.d/kafka.conf
[02:10] <yuppie> -rw-r--r--
[02:10] <yuppie> on both
[02:21] <OerHeks> yuppie, maybe you need compress + delaycompress.
[02:22] <yuppie> wonder why the other server isn't requiring that
[02:22] <OerHeks> but not sure why it is working one one machine and the other not.
[02:23] <OerHeks> maybe it was compressed already.
[02:26] <yuppie> yeah one machine already has the compressed stuff
[02:26] <yuppie> the other doesn't
[02:26] <yuppie> should i try replacing compressed with delaycompress for one run?
[02:26] <yuppie> or maybe nodelaycompress lol
[02:27] <OerHeks> i would delaycompress, as you set fixed size.
[02:30] <yuppie> nope
[02:33] <OerHeks> rename all old logs to .gz and hit logrotate, does that help?
[02:36] <yuppie> rename or compress them?
[02:38] <OerHeks> err compress would be better yes
[02:50] <tortib> Whenever I login to my gnome3 classic desktop i'm presented with some dialog boxes saying the following apps crashed dkms 2.2.0.3 ; lib32gcc1 and libc6-i386 ; anyone know how I can fix this?
[03:01] <tatertots> tortib have you got rid of the dialog boxes, and determined if those apps crash consistently?
[03:01] <tortib> tatertots, they do, i get the messages every time I login
[03:02] <tatertots> tortib are you just clicking "ok" or "cancel" on the dialog boxes?
[03:02] <tortib> tatertots, i click report to see what is actually crashing
[03:02] <tortib> it's obviosuly starting again after it crashes because my gnome3 classic session works without problems
[03:05] <anonymissle> Can anyone help me with a dual booting problem?
[03:06] <anonymissle> Whenever I select boot windows it just reloads grub 2
[03:07] <anonymissle> If that is done for then I need help with an adapter not working with ubuntu
[03:07] <anonymissle> If that doesn't work I am screwed
[03:09] <anonymissle> hello?
[03:10] <manhdv> anonymissle: can you give more details?
[03:11] <anonymissle> @manhdv When I boot up and get into grub it says boot windows and I do that and it goes black then the grub 2 screen pops up again
[03:15] <Tex_Nick> you had windows (version ?) installed first, then installed linux (distro ?), how did you install linux ... etc
[03:16] <levtim> Sorry to jump in late, but can you run update-grub or update-grub2 from your linux install?
[03:16] <anonymissle> Sure
[03:17] <anonymissle> I did that and it said it found windows 10 should I reboot?
[03:18] <levtim> Do you know if there are multiple Windows partition, like a recovery partition for example?
[03:18] <anonymissle> No there were two partitions one for linux and one for windows
[03:19] <levtim> I think it would be worth restarting to try it again
[03:19] <anonymissle> Do be exact I am using lubuntu
[03:20] <anonymissle> woah now I can't use the keyboard with it
[03:20] <levtim> What do you see on the screen when you can't use your keyboard?
[03:21] <anonymissle> Ubuntu
[03:21] <anonymissle> Advance options for Ubuntu
[03:21] <anonymissle> Memory test (memtest86+)
[03:21] <anonymissle> Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)
[03:21] <anonymissle> Windows 10 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)
[03:21] <anonymissle> Sweet I got it to look like it
[03:22] <levtim> anonymissle: and you still can't use your keyboard?
[03:23] <anonymissle> I restarted it and then it restarted again when I pressed down
[03:23] <anonymissle> Now it restarts the computer when I press down key
[03:23] <anonymissle> alright now I can't use the keyboard again
[03:24] <levtim> anonymissle: That seems very strange. Do you have another keyboard that you can try?
[03:24] <anonymissle> This one was just working but I guess.
[03:24] <levtim> anonymissle: Or could Numlock be coming on or something?
[03:29] <tortib> tatertots, well the crashes went away after clearing /var/crash
[03:29] <tortib> tatertots, is that because it always reads that dir when logging in?
[03:29] <anonymissle> Ok so I plugged in another keyboard it still doesn't work I guess I am screwed now
[03:30] <levtim> anonymissle: Can you boot into your linux environment?
[03:30] <anonymissle> nope
[03:31] <levtim> anonymissle: How were you able to run the grub-update command?
[03:31] <anonymissle> That was before I rebooted and then this problem happened.
[03:32] <levtim> anonymissle: You will still be able to access everything from a LiveCD
[03:32] <anonymissle> true
[03:33] <levtim> anonymissle: Do you have a Windows recovery cd?
[03:33] <anonymissle> I can make one]
[03:33] <anonymissle> Man this sucks so much
[03:33] <levtim> anonymissle: I missed most of your story. Is this a fresh ubuntu install or an upgrade?
[03:33] <anonymissle> Shows me for trying to do something that plenty of people have done before me
[03:33] <anonymissle> @levtim a fresh one
[03:34] <levtim> anonymissle: It would be good to make a Windows recovery cd (has to be the same version x64 or x86) and you can repair the boot rec from their
[03:36] <levtim> anonymissle: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/927392
[03:37] <anonymissle> alright thanks you guys for the help maybe I will see if I cant try this again
[03:37] <anonymissle> But before I go I want to use a netgear wna3100 with linux but every guide I see requires apt-get install and that doesn't exactly work with uh,,, no,,, INTERNETZ
[03:38] <archmonkey> hi guys. I have a fresh xubuntu install. I installed chromium, and it already had firefox. When trying to run netflix in either, it asks me to install silverlight, sends me an exe download, and it fails with each
[03:39] <archmonkey> What am I doing wrong? Also, non chromium, just normal chrome isn't in the software repo or in synaptic
[03:39] <tatertots> gool ol silverlight from microsoft
[03:39] <anonymissle> go to https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/ and install with gdevi
[03:39] <anonymissle> gdebi*
[03:40] <anonymissle> or try wine apt-get install wine
[03:40] <anonymissle> mine as well be helpful while I am here
[03:40] <anonymissle> return the flavour heyo puns for days
[03:40] <archmonkey> lol trying the wine way
[03:41] <anonymissle> ubuntu = get drunk on wine without drinking a drop
[03:41] <levtim> archmonkey: The official google .deb adds itself to the repo sources and should work with netflix
[03:42] <anonymissle> @archmonkey I gave you the link but here we go again https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/
[03:43] <anonymissle> HAVE FUN WITH YOU LINEAR MEDIA!! MYARGH @archmonkey
[03:43] <root> toor
[03:44] <anonymissle> elssimynona
[03:44] <archmonkey> Trying to install chrome from that link
[03:45] <Jordan_U> anonymissle: Please limit your comments in this channel to productive support discussion.
[03:45] <anonymissle> @archmonkey LINEAR MEDIA
[03:45] <anonymissle> oh ok then woops
[03:45] <anonymissle> srry
[03:46] <archmonkey> It opens in "Software" the package manager but when I click install it works for a fraction of a second then just goes back as if I didn't click install.
[03:46] <levtim> you could try it from the Terminal
[03:47] <anonymissle> @archmonkey are you using gdebi?
[03:47] <archmonkey> No, how would I use gdebi?
[03:47] <levtim> archmonkey: sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable-current-amd64.deb
[03:47] <anonymissle> Also why isn't chrome in the repos it is a popular browser and chromium is like a watered down version.
[03:47] <levtim> Chromium is open source
[03:47] <anonymissle> gdebi will be helpful do sudo apt-get install gdebi and use that from now on
[03:48] <levtim> Google Chrome has proprietary code like the stuff that makes Netflix work
[03:48] <anonymissle> @levtim most people don't need that
[03:48] <archmonkey> dpkg error is locked by another process > levtim
[03:48] <anonymissle> @levtim wait do you have to include the source code to have something in the repos
[03:49] <anonymissle> task manager and end whatever you were using to install chrome b4
[03:49] <anonymissle> or are you installing an update or something from software center
[03:49] <levtim> anonymissle: I'm not sure exactly what the rules are, but I think that is part of the deal
[03:49] <archmonkey> I'll just reboot to try to stop whatever this is from being tied up, be back in a while
[04:12] <Guy1524>  [00:09] <Guy1524> hey guys, in windows there is a utility called intel extreme tuning utility that can be used to improve graphics performance by increasing a multiplier, how would I do this manually in ubuntu as the application doesn't support linux
[04:13] <plop_its_ellie> Guy1524, you dont need it :P
[04:14] <up2late> whats the diff between desktop and server ubuntu?
[04:14] <Guy1524> plop_its_ellie: I dont?  There are no options in the bios for doing this
[04:14] <Guy1524> im about to test if the changes carry over onto linux
[04:14] <plop_its_ellie> Guy1524, depends on your bios, usually there are multiplier/oc options but I dont really recommend overclocking especially if you dont have propper cooling
[04:15] <plop_its_ellie> up2late, the server version doesnt have a desktop or gui on it
[04:15] <plop_its_ellie> ubuntu server is very minimal, when you install it and run it, its just a command line
[04:15] <up2late> cant u just use lxde or something?
[04:15] <Guy1524> plop_its_ellie: its on an already hot laptop, but I want just a tiny bit more performance
[04:16] <plop_its_ellie> up2late, lol you dont need a gui on a server
[04:16] <plop_its_ellie> Guy1524, you are probably making your performance worse by trying to push it because the hotter it gets the more your cpu will throttle its self to maintain its temperature
[04:16] <up2late> so u cant install lxde on a server?
[04:17] <up2late> like u can in debian
[04:17] <Arcaire> you can
[04:17] <Arcaire> but you don't really want to, it's another attack vector
[04:17] <plop_its_ellie> up2late, you can but i dont see why you would do that
[04:17] <plop_its_ellie> ^^^^^
[04:17] <up2late> h
[04:17] <plop_its_ellie> yea the more stuff you add, the more of an attack vector it becomes
[04:17] <dax> (which is exactly the same as on Debian)
[04:18] <plop_its_ellie> Guy1524, if you say your laptop is hot i would recommend dusting it out and apply some fresh thermal paste, you will probably have better performance doing that and keeping the speed at stock
[04:19] <tatertots> or you could start comparing performance and prices on your next laptop with better gpu performance
[04:19] <plop_its_ellie> ^
[04:19] <plop_its_ellie> yea if you need the performance just spend the extra money on something with better specs to meet your needs
[04:20] <tatertots> i saw a laptop with a nice gtx 960m at a great price the other day
[04:20] <plop_its_ellie> tatertots, yea I saw a an acer with a 960m for 500 bucks
[04:20] <tatertots> nvidia gtx 9xx series in a laptop is pretty....drool
[04:22] <smallbatch> speaking of... what are some of the better places to buy prebuilt/tested ubuntu notebooks?
[04:22] <tatertots> dell ships a handful of systems with ubuntu
[04:22] <plop_its_ellie> smallbatch, https://system76.com/
[04:23] <xangua> smallbatch:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed
[04:23] <smallbatch> awesome, thanks!
[04:24] <tatertots> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Dell/
[04:24] <int-main> I want to have multiple Options in xorg.conf file. How are entries separated? Commas?
[04:26] <plop_its_ellie> does dell count
[04:27] <plop_its_ellie> i always have trouble actually finding ubuntu stuff on their site
[04:27] <Arcaire> http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-9350-laptop-ubuntu/pd
[04:27] <smallbatch> System76 seems great... Wonder what they'll be like shipping to AU and how their support will be.
[04:27] <plop_its_ellie> i just clicked the dell.com/ubuntu link and i clicked on customize and was taken to a page with laptops with windows 7 along with windows 10 promotions ._____.
[04:27] <Arcaire> smallbatch: awful
[04:28] <plop_its_ellie> apparently system76 has lifetime support for ubuntu
[04:28] <plop_its_ellie> tho idk about their shipping
[04:28] <jq> plop_its_ellie: Holy shit, that last desktop comp from system76.com goes up to $46,105 lol
[04:29] <Arcaire> wat
[04:29] <smallbatch> XPS DE looks cool... Dell kinda irritates me though.
[04:29] <plop_its_ellie> jq, lol really
[04:29] <jq> https://lfil.es/i/5677fa3b
[04:30] <Arcaire> ... wow
[04:30] <jq> Ikr lol
[04:30] <Arcaire> >6TB RAID 10
[04:30] <Arcaire> >SSD
[04:31] <jq> I just picked all the highest priced options
[04:31] <plop_its_ellie> hahahahahahahaha!
[04:31] <Arcaire> I wonder if this system can run Crysis?
[04:31] <jq> That's ridiculous
[04:31] <plop_its_ellie> i normally just build desktops
[04:31] <jq> Arcaire: Rofl
[04:31] <jq> plop_its_ellie: Me too, most expensive I built was like 3k and I thought I was being ridiculous
[04:31] <plop_its_ellie> but yea system76 prices arent the greatest, but I do hear good things about their hardware
[04:32] <smallbatch> mainly just concerned about support should something go wrong.
[04:32] <Arcaire> Yeah that's why I buy from places with local (Aussie) outlets.
[04:32] <jq> smallbatch: The best way to learn is to fuck shit up, and fix it yourself through trial and error
[04:33] <xangua> ! Language
[04:34] <jq> xangua: Yeah yeah yeah, forgot what channel this was for a second :P
[04:34] <Arcaire> Calm, polite Australian.
[04:35] <Arcaire> smallbatch: I've heard good things about the old model of that XPS 13 Ubuntu edition.
[04:36] <plop_its_ellie> with all these vendors that sell ubuntu preinstalled, ive noticed there are no cheap sub 300-400 dollar basic laptops
[04:36] <plop_its_ellie> just high end stuff
[04:37] <Arcaire> Mhm.
[04:37] <smallbatch> Where would you recommend for local AU support?
[04:38] <deceit> buy a dell
[04:38] <deceit> they openly support linux
[04:38] <Arcaire> smallbatch: Dell, probably.
[04:38] <Arcaire> I just bought a Metabox, but they're not Linux-preinstalled.
[04:41] <plop_its_ellie> so looking at AVA direct, i dont see a single ubuntu computer on there, just windows...
[04:41] <plop_its_ellie> dont know why its on that list
[04:42] <plop_its_ellie> smallbatch, i think you are better off getting a laptop from your local electronics store and install linux on it
[04:42] <plop_its_ellie> and look up the hardware first, and run a live usb at the store
[04:42] <plop_its_ellie> usually if you go intel you are good
[04:42] <jq> smallbatch: The ubuntu setup is really really newbie friendly
[04:42] <plop_its_ellie> and not broadcom
[04:42] <smallbatch> yeah, you're probably right... Just really want a powerful workstation, as I virtualize everything.
[04:43] <Arcaire> smallbatch: Metabox tbh
[04:43] <plop_its_ellie> im taking a look at those vendors and half of them shouldnt be on the list
[04:44] <plop_its_ellie> smallbatch, if you want a desktop id recommend just building one
[04:49] <sirriffsalot> How do I completely disable my cpu-scaling? I've tried a lot but my cpu's just won't stay in performance mode...
[04:50] <xangua> sirriffsalot: are you using LTP?
[04:50] <sirriffsalot> xangua, not sure what that is?
[04:50] <sirriffsalot> xangua, google isn't giving the correct abbreviations I'm guessing ^^
[04:50] <prashant> hi
[04:51] <prashant> is there anyone to help me ragarding the wifi connections in ubuntu 16.04LTS??
[04:51] <prashant> is there anyone say hello
[04:53] <jair> Hello all, I am trying to find an open source / free software that will allow me and my team keep better track of the ports used in the main DC patch panels, the switches/routers and devices connected to any patch panel or switch router
[04:53] <sirriffsalot> xangua, ?
[04:53] <xangua> sirriffsalot: TLP I mean, sorry linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-faq.html
[04:54] <plop_its_ellie> sirriffsalot, you can put the cpu govenor in performance mode, though i wouldnt recommend that unless you had propper cooling
[04:54] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, I do that, it doesn't matter, it just scales back later anyway
[04:54] <sirriffsalot> sudo cpufreq-set -g performance for example, useless in the long run
[04:54] <xangua> linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-faq.html#scaling
[04:55] <plop_its_ellie> again with the "trying to maximize your cpu" stuff, if you try to max it out, over clock and that kind of stuff and dont have propper cooling you are just making your performance worse
[04:55] <sirriffsalot> xangua, this looks somewhat sketchy, and shouldn't really be necessary
[04:55] <plop_its_ellie> cuz you are just frying it and it will throttle its self to stay cool
[04:55] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, I'm not trying to max it, just trying to make it somewhat more steady so my fps aren't rubbish :)
[04:55] <plop_its_ellie> and it offers very little benefit
[04:56] <plop_its_ellie> sirriffsalot, then buy a better gpu, tho if you are using something that is unoptmiized by the developers then performance is going to suffer regaurdless
[04:56] <plop_its_ellie> i dont mean to be rude
[04:57] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, my gpu is not the problem ...
[04:57] <plop_its_ellie> just invest in some decent hardware, use propper cooling, keep the machine clean, dust free and keep your video drivers up to date
[04:58] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, I've long since come to the conclusion that the cpu behaves as a bottleneck, now something in Ubuntu is automatically scaling my CPU down, and I want to tell it not to when I need it to be so
[04:58] <plop_its_ellie> also certain desktop environments and window managers can affect performance as well
[04:58] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, this is a laptop
[04:58] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, I'm using fluxbox, so that shouldn't have any impact at all
[04:58] <jair> The most important requirement is: multi-users simultaneously (version control support) accessible via the internet (cloud ready)
[04:59] <plop_its_ellie> sirriffsalot, laptops usually dont have the best cooling
[04:59] <plop_its_ellie> its a high end gaming laptop?
[04:59] <jair> and, easy to maintain and update by users (via, tablet, mobile, or PC)
[05:00] <Arcaire> Would this - http://askubuntu.com/a/523690 - not work?
[05:00] <plop_its_ellie> but thats just more of a reason to NOT run it in performance mode
[05:01] <Arcaire> I agree with plop_its_ellie but I'm less a fan of denying people who want to shoot their feet access to the means to do so.
[05:01] <Official-Support> ubuntu
[05:01] <plop_its_ellie> you will just be frying it, its probably already getting hot so thats why its throttling
[05:01] <xangua> I just showed you the answer 6 minutes ago
[05:01] <Official-Support> official support for ubuntu is ##su.solaris from the coder of ubuntu
[05:01] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, it's a HP Envy dv7 :P
[05:01] <Arcaire> what
[05:01] <plop_its_ellie> there is a package called psensor that lets you monitor your temps
[05:01] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, it should more than be able to handle 1.12.1 without overheating hehe
[05:02] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, it doesn't feel that kinda hot either, temps are all good here
[05:02] <plop_its_ellie> hahahahahahaha!
[05:02] <plop_its_ellie> that laptop is no good
[05:02] <plop_its_ellie> ive worked with several of those
[05:03] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, it's more than enough
[05:03] <Arcaire> hoo boy, pavilions
[05:03] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, this laptop is perfect for my needs :)
[05:03] <plop_its_ellie> i mean as far as quality
[05:03] <plop_its_ellie> yea it works for doing general every day tasks
[05:03] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, sorry that I'm not sporting alienware lol. I bought this several years ago now
[05:03] <abhvl> hi
[05:03] <sirriffsalot> Does anyone else have any helpful advice?
[05:04] <plop_its_ellie> sirriffsalot, its fine but thats no good for gaming at all
[05:04] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, I'm playing a game from 2006, aren't you listening?
[05:04] <sirriffsalot> plop_its_ellie, on a windows partition it works flawlessly, pipe it
[05:04] <xangua> plop_its_ellie: Arcaire andil I gave you basically the same answer
[05:04] <sirriffsalot> worked*
[05:04] <Arcaire> >wow private servers
[05:04] <plop_its_ellie> what game?
[05:04] <Arcaire> >playing on HIGHLY ILLEGAL
[05:04] <sirriffsalot> Arcaire, right on
[05:04] <Arcaire> >wow private servers
[05:04] <Arcaire> plop_its_ellie: Come on, everyone recognises that version number!
[05:05] <Arcaire> 1.12.1 is the last version of vanilla WoW, in 2006.
[05:05] <Arcaire> (other than Brazilian, which had 1.12.2)
[05:05] <xangua> sirriffsalot: Arcaire and I provide you basically the same answer
[05:05] <Arcaire> ^
[05:05]  * plop_its_ellie knows nothing about WOW
[05:05] <plop_its_ellie> its a windows game...
[05:05] <Arcaire> >Intel HD Graphics 4000
[05:05] <sirriffsalot> Arcaire, if it were illegal they'd shut it all down. I'm not here to debate whether it's right, they ruined that game long ago and I'm just doodling in there with friends when I'm otherwise unoccupied
[05:05] <Arcaire> I don't think this + wine is gonna go well
[05:06] <plop_its_ellie> well regaurdless, hes playing a windows game on sub par hardware
[05:06] <Arcaire> Yeah.
[05:06] <sirriffsalot> Arcaire, intel graphics? nvidia geforce GT 650m in there
[05:06] <xangua>  sirriffsalot  for you "how to disable whatever is scaling down my processor in Ubuntu"question
[05:06] <sirriffsalot> xangua, yes please ;)
[05:06] <Arcaire> [15:01:43]  <Arcaire>	Would this - http://askubuntu.com/a/523690 - not work?
[05:06] <Arcaire> refer to this
[05:07] <xangua> linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-faq.html#scaling
[05:07] <sirriffsalot> xangua, already tried that like I told you
[05:07] <xangua> Both the same
[05:07] <Arcaire> *shrugs*
[05:07] <Arcaire> pass
[05:07] <sirriffsalot> xangua, I'll set all cores to 2.4ghz individually, see how that fares
[05:08] <xangua> Did you reboot? sirriffsalot
[05:08] <sirriffsalot> xangua, yes..
[05:08] <sirriffsalot> *facepalm*
[05:09] <xangua> Then something else is doing it, did you install cpufrequtilities or TLP?
[05:10] <sirriffsalot> xangua, cpufrequtils
[05:11] <plop_its_ellie> theres also the ck kernel patch
[05:11] <plop_its_ellie> you can squeeze a bit of extra performance out of that...
[05:11] <sirriffsalot> This is something I haven't tried, circumstances more or less the same: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/153693/cant-use-userspace-cpufreq-governor-and-set-cpu-frequency
[05:19] <noobface> hi, im trying to search/ install vlc media player through the command line and its not having it. I put in the following ...
[05:20] <noobface> sudo apt search vlc
[05:20] <noobface> sudo apt-get search vlc
[05:20] <charims> sudo apt-cache search vlc
[05:20] <xangua> Sudo apt install vlc
[05:20] <noobface> the first returns sorting.. done and full text search done but nothing else
[05:21] <abhvl> noobface, do sudo apt-get update first
[05:22] <noobface> it says unable to locate package
[05:22] <noobface> oh wait let me do update.. also note ubuntu is freshly installed
[05:23] <noobface> some index files failed to download they've been ignored and old ones will be used
[05:23] <noobface> .. is what it says
[05:23] <abhvl> noobface, do sudo apt-get update first
[05:23] <turbo64> when i start ubuntu mate, grub shows a big grey screen and nothing else
[05:24] <OerHeks> let me guess, vivid 15.04?
[05:24] <noobface> just put command in abhvl and returned previous
[05:24] <turbo64> no im running lts
[05:24] <abhvl> noobface, change server to main instead of your country specific
[05:24] <abhvl> and then again do update
[05:24] <noobface> 16.04 LTS OerHeks
[05:24] <vbotka> noobface, and you might want to check the status of your mirror https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[05:25] <noobface> oh that wasn't for me ha ignore OerHeks
[05:25] <noobface> do i have to do that on the computer im trying to install.. i have vulurable... wel leverything
[05:25] <noobface> **well everything
[05:26] <noobface> how do i change server to main abhvl?
[05:27] <abhvl> noobface, Ubuntu Software Center -> Sources
[05:28] <abhvl> noobface, after than sudo apt-get update first
[05:29] <noobface> on the command line?
[05:29] <abhvl> yes
[05:30] <freecoder_> turbo64, do you have a multi-boot system?
[05:30] <archmonkey> so there's no 32bit chrome on linux, so how else would I get silverlight working to watch netflix with?
[05:30] <archmonkey> on a 32bit machine
[05:31] <xangua> Freshplayer maybe
[05:31] <archmonkey> maybe just try to get 64bit on this machine?
[05:31] <turbo64> freecoder_: no
[05:33] <freecoder_> turbo64, i dont know any efficient alternative to this, but if you cannot boot then try repairing the grub from a live cd. rescatux has "restore grub" program (http://www.supergrubdisk.org/rescatux/)
[05:34] <effectnet> hello.  how do i start samba?
[05:34] <noobface> abhvl, ok you lost me, I already did update on command line. Looked for /ubuntusoftwarecenter/sources and in the ubuntu software interface. No where to be found. I m assuming im looking in the wrong place
[05:34] <abhvl> effectnet, sudo service samba start
[05:35] <effectnet> k
[05:35] <abhvl> noobface, :-(
[05:35] <effectnet> failed to start samba.service: unit samba.service is masked
[05:36] <abhvl> noobface, on your left side menu bar there is one icon of bag. "A" written on it. thats Ubuntu Software Center. Launch it. Inside its Menu-> Softwares & Update -> Server Selection
[05:36] <noobface> OH! its system settings then software and updates
[05:36] <noobface> got it.
[05:37] <noobface> oh, abhvl right thought it was the other one
[05:37] <abhvl> ok
[05:37] <noobface> main server was already set
[05:38] <noobface> perhaps fix function.. do you know one?
[05:38] <abhvl> no
[05:38] <effectnet> oh geez i was typing something wrong.  lol thx tough abhvl  :D
[05:38] <abhvl> noobface, have you enabled universe repo?
[05:38] <effectnet> appreciate
[05:38] <keanne> hi channel. clean install of ubuntu 16.04 freezes on dual monitor. upgraded kernel to latest 4.4.14 which fixes the dual monitor issue. but, when switching from wired from wireless, no broadcasted SSIDs are shown. walkaround is to restart the network-manager. anyone having this issue? found similar issues in google which are unaswered as well. thank you.
[05:38] <abhvl> welcome effectnet
[05:39] <noobface> define repo?
[05:39] <heap> is abhvl answer bot?? lol
[05:39] <effectnet> i don't know
[05:39] <abhvl> heap, just feeling happy in Morning. so thought to help people.
[05:39] <effectnet> that would be cool
[05:40] <abhvl> :-(
[05:40] <noobface> well help is much appreciated :3
[05:40] <heap> right. you are doing well ;)
[05:41] <abhvl> :-)
[05:41] <noobface> says: Community-maintained free and open-source software (universe) and i just checked it. Is that what you meant?
[05:41] <abhvl> yes
[05:41] <abhvl> now update again
[05:42] <noobface> same response
[05:42] <abhvl> noobface, unable universe, restricted and multiverse
[05:43] <noobface> same
[05:43] <noobface> omg.. hold on i know what it is
[05:44]  * noobface blushes 
[05:44] <noobface> that's embarrassing
[05:46] <noobface> hmmm maybe not
[05:46] <noobface> i wasn't connected to wifi but i did and now it says same thing
[05:49] <effectnet> woo!
[05:50] <noobface> ? lol
[05:50] <effectnet> haha
[05:51] <effectnet> extra energy
[05:51] <noobface> give me some!
[05:51] <noobface> jk i don't need that i was supposed to be asleep hours ago
[05:52] <effectnet> ah i am due to sleep to really
[05:52] <turbo64> im running ubuntu mate and i noticed that firefox doesnt use my gtk theme even i set it in qtconfig
[05:52] <turbo64> or any theme i set
[05:52] <turbo64> does firefox in ubuntu use qt5 now or something
[05:53] <hateball> turbo64: It uses GTK3
[05:53] <effectnet> i am getting better with ubuntu and it's nice.  i did switch to chromium :O but it is so fast
[05:53] <Guy1524> how can I tell if my cpu and integrated graphics are thermal throttling
[05:54] <effectnet> i will accept negative comments about switching to chromium
[05:54] <turbo64> so is there something i can use to configure gtk3 themes in ubuntu
[05:55] <noobface> ok, I don't understand. I reentered sudo apt update and it firsts has trouble connected in the first place, then after alittle it says reading.. dependency tree... read.. all packages are up to date but then its ays failed to fetch -- url and then list them
[05:56] <nikitamog> I want my computer to make a beep noise. Any tips? I tried apt--get beep but I don't hear anything.
[05:57] <Xin> nikitamog; beep will only work with the system bell
[05:58] <Xin> if you dont have a pc speaker
[05:58] <Xin> use aplay instead
[05:58] <Grorco> hi I have some questions about how grep and the pipe function work, actually just how do they work lol
[05:58] <hateball> Grorco: What are you trying to achieve?
[05:58] <effectnet> grep is a command-line utility that lets you search files for matching text.  is that it?
[05:59] <effectnet> oh and output
[05:59] <effectnet> and it does more
[05:59] <Grorco> hateball: an understanding of how to use grep to search through output from commands
[06:00] <Celerity> hello!
[06:00] <Grorco> for instance I was just trying grep -e 'network controller' | lspci
[06:00] <hateball> Grorco: it's the other way around
[06:00] <hateball> Grorco: you run a command, then you pass it on to grep using |
[06:02] <hateball> Grorco: but if you want to search in files, you can run "grep <searchpattern> /path"
[06:02] <hateball> grep -R, for recursive
[06:02] <anatoliy> hi all
[06:02] <Celerity> I'm trying to make a permanent switch to Ubuntu, and I am having a weird issue during system start. (Dual booting with Windows 10) Ubuntu refuses to start if a USB hard drive is connected.
[06:02] <noobface> ok, its certainly an internet problem. I am connected to my wifi and password is correct. by firefox or other browsing doesn't work
[06:02] <effectnet> cool switching to ubuntu from win 10
[06:03] <hateball> Celerity: what does your /etc/fstab look like?
[06:03] <Grorco> hateball: TY! that lead me to another question is there any way to make it not case sensitive and/or use wild cards?
[06:03] <hateball> Grorco: -i, ignores case
[06:03] <Celerity> hateball: I don't know I need to check
[06:03] <hateball> Celerity: if it's for some reason using /dev/sdX instead of UUID, connecting another drive will mess it up
[06:04] <Celerity> hateball: This is what it looks like http://pastebin.com/wbeVSCgE
[06:04] <hateball> Grorco: well it accepts regexp like anything else. so you could "grep -R [0-9] ~/" to search through your home directory for files containing any number
[06:05] <alakx> Hi. I have a existing volume group called "wbdk". I just recently increased size of my hard drive. So the question is how can i resize my existing volume group?
[06:05] <hateball> Celerity: hmmm that looks fine. to be honest I havent dual booted in over a decade so I don't know if there could be some problems there...
[06:06] <hateball> Celerity: Have a look in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:06] <Celerity> hateball: Honestly my long term goal is to get off windows completely and just delegate it to VM status. But I'm 'scared' of breaking my workflow instantly.
[06:06] <Celerity> I will look at that.
[06:07] <hateball> Celerity: grub should also use UUID and not /dev/sdX, or it will break when adding another drive
[06:07] <alakx> http://pastebin.com/rCAEzXRZ .
[06:08] <archmonkey> hi guys. xubuntu 32-bit on an older system. I think it can't run 64bit. So I want to watch netflix. Keep getting asked to install silverlight, came here earlier to ask about what I should do
[06:08] <hateball> alakx: vgextend
[06:08] <archmonkey>  got told to install chrome, but there's no 32bit chrome, so I'm back
[06:08] <Celerity> hateball: This is my grub, if it helps - http://pastebin.com/GqXcD1KR
[06:08] <Celerity> I'm looking there as well
[06:08] <hateball> archmonkey: I havent tried it myself, but I suppose you could install 32-bit chrome using WINE
[06:08] <Grorco> hateball: can you combine -R with -I so sudo grep -R -I myfile[0-9]
[06:08] <archmonkey> might have to.
[06:08] <hateball> Grorco: Yes
[06:09] <archmonkey> command on xubuntu to get wine ?
[06:09] <hateball> archmonkey: sudo apt install wine
[06:09] <archmonkey> ty
[06:09] <archmonkey> so just grab a windows 32bit chrome exe after wine's installed?
[06:09] <Celerity> to me it looks like it's using UUIDs only.
[06:09] <hateball> archmonkey: and then download the windows .exe for chrome, and just run "wine nameof.exe" and it should install to a default wineprefix
[06:10] <archmonkey> cool thank you
[06:10] <Grorco> hateball: thank you again, I don't know why that seemed so hard reading through it :)
[06:10] <imr> archmonkey: and also https://www.winehq.org
[06:10] <hateball> !wine
[06:10] <Celerity> is there some sort of console output mode that I can use to check what's going wrong?
[06:11] <hateball> Grorco: Well man-pages can be tricky if you are not used to them
[06:11] <hateball> Celerity: You can go into your grub menu by holding left shift at boot. Edit the boot-line and remove "quiet splash"
[06:11] <hateball> Assuming it even gets that far
[06:11] <Celerity> it does.
[06:11] <Celerity> I'm using the same machine right now.
[06:12] <Celerity> AFTER I select Ubuntu, if the USB HDD is connected, it pauses at a blank screen. But the moment I unplug the USB HDD it continues booting as if nothing had happened
[06:13] <Grorco> hateball: I think it was more the way pipe worked that got me which is hard to get a man page for lol
[06:17] <archmonkey> failing to run wine chrome 32bit exe
[06:17] <archmonkey> says its not connecting to the internet
[06:17] <hateball> archmonkey: #winehq for help with apps in wine tho
[06:18] <Grorco> okay new question about compiz... I can't see anything on my desktop except the bg
[06:18] <hateball> Celerity: how weird. it should only use the (hd1,) stuff if it fails to find the uuid specified, but it seems that's whats messing up
[06:18] <Grorco> the files and shortcuts are there I can right click on them but can't see them
[06:19] <quietpurple> anyone here?
[06:19] <hateball> !help | quietpurple
[06:21] <Grorco> well I tried switching out the back in and still didn't show up but I can see a file to grab and drag it but not right click it now, it's like its hiding behind the background picture
[06:24] <quietpurple> Has anyone experienced network issues with both network-manager and also WICD? I replaced network-manager with WICD and ti seemed to be working fine, but sometimes WICD will stop seeing available networks and suddenly disconnect, exactly like network-manager did. Why would they both have the same problem? I'm running Ubuntu MATE on an Acer Aspire 5750.
[06:25] <Grorco> ohh it is hiding behind the wall paper... when I disable wall paper in compiz I can see all of them
[06:25] <archmonkey> #winehq is like dead :/ no responses
[06:27] <velus> hello all i have a little bit of custom php coding that needs to be running all the time, is there a way to turn it so when the server starts up it starts up the bit of php. or turn it into a demon of some sort
[06:28] <hateball> !appdb | archmonkey
[06:29] <hateball> archmonkey: it tends to have instructions to get various apps running
[06:29] <abhvl> velus, use cron
[06:29] <abhvl> velus, or put it in bash script and add that script to Ubuntu Startup Apps
[06:29] <velus> how would i use cron to start the script everytime the server starts
[06:29] <velus> ok
[06:29] <hateball> velus: use @reboot instead of a given time
[06:30] <smallbatch> im gonna ask a really stupid question... how do you "reply" to someone in global chat? (please don't judge me)...
[06:31] <hateball> !tab | smallbatch
[06:34] <noobface> abhvl are you still with me?
[06:36] <smallbatch> !tab hateball awesome... thank you!
[06:36] <smallbatch> nope... messed it uo.
[06:37] <hateball> smallbatch: you just press 'ha' for instance, then <tab> to complete
[06:37] <smallbatch> hateball gotcha...
[06:37] <smallbatch> thats just embarassing. ha.
[06:38] <noobface> omg please help. Im in a perpetual state of reinstallaiton!
[06:39] <noobface> I reinstalled ubuntu and its said restart computer, did that and went to screen to reinstall all over
[06:40] <noobface> originally i set my usb to work along side windows and that i could choose which OS i wanted each time I restarted but now it just uninstalls and wants me to start all over
[06:40] <sponix> noobface: Sounds like you just need to modify the boot order so it boots from the Hard Drive (or SSD) instead of the Installation media (CD/DVD/USB)
[06:41] <noobface> okay how do i do that
[06:43] <smallbatch> speaking of cron, anyone have recommended reference material?
[06:44] <lyze> smallbatch, http://crontab-generator.org/
[06:44] <lyze> "crontab -e" to edit the list
[06:45] <smallbatch> lyze well thats just awesome. thank you.
[06:45] <lyze> No problem ^^
[06:47] <Grorco> is there anyway to keep you NIC up and running while in hibernate?
[06:48] <Grorco> noobface: did you take the usb, or cd out?
[06:49] <Grorco> noobface: otherwise you need to edit the order in your bios
[06:52] <noobface> it looks like it did come out
[06:53] <noobface> im way in over my head
[06:53] <Grorco> what came out lol
[06:53] <noobface> my screen doesn't make any sense .. my computer isn't responding
[06:54] <noobface> :,CC
[06:54] <Grorco> what did you use to install ubuntu a cd? USB?
[06:54] <noobface> usb
[06:54] <Grorco> is the usb still in the computer?
[06:55] <noobface> it is now but if switched it from the current computer im using to talk to you to that one a few times all except one eject was safe
[06:55] <noobface> the first ejection wasn't safe
[06:56] <abhvl> :-p
[06:56] <Grorco> it'll be okay restart the computer you installed ubuntu on after physically removing the usb drive
[06:57] <noobface> but i re-reinstalled more like i was in the interphase of installing where if you click quit itll take you to a demo-like screen of ubuntu
[06:58] <noobface> i restarted it after i took out the usb and now there is a TON of error messages. When i attempt to turn it off/on manually it doesn't respond and i plug in the usb and nothing happens. I'm freaking out
[07:00] <Grorco> what kind of computer is it?
[07:01] <noobface> lenovo c 40 or 50 not sure which
[07:01] <Grorco> did you install it next to windows, or any other operating system?
[07:01] <noobface> next to windows yes
[07:02] <noobface> well you could choose from start up now along side it
[07:03] <Grorco> you have the choice to boot to windows or ubuntu right now when you restart it?
[07:05] <noobface> no, now i can't see anything but error messages .. i.e. 833.563548} SQUASHFA error: equashfs_read_data failed to read block 0X75b6598
[07:06] <Grorco> is this a newer computer running windows 8 or 10?
[07:06] <noobface> new still have the box on w10
[07:06] <noobface> wait! it shut off!
[07:07] <noobface> it turned back on!!
[07:07] <noobface> ok 3 options
[07:07] <noobface> install ubuntu, OEM , or check disc for defects
[07:08] <noobface> ive tried all but oem and it keeps looping
[07:09] <abhvl> noobface, completely delete your ubuntu and install new one. format /home and / while doing so. take backup of data. do not harm other OS if any.
[07:10] <noobface> ok, i will, what doe you mean by format "/home and /"
[07:11] <Grorco> can you reboot into the live usb?
[07:11] <noobface> wait!!
[07:11] <Grorco> windows start up?
[07:11] <noobface> i selected OEM and it went back to ubuntu install prompt
[07:12] <Grorco> I don't remember if the start up has gparted buit into it :( anybody?
[07:12] <S4L3h1> How can I install flash plugin for firefox in ubuntu?
[07:12] <noobface> but FOR manufactures only
[07:12] <noobface> OMG im SO over my head
[07:15] <yuyueshihaoren> S4L3h1: Just open the official website of Adobe Flash and download the package it gives you.
[07:15] <noobface> ok, im at the options part where it asks whether i want to: erase ubuntu 16.04 LTS and reinstall, erase disk and install ubuntu, or something else .. Please help
[07:16] <hateball> S4L3h1: sudo apt install flashplugin-installer
[07:16] <Grorco> whats under something else?
[07:16] <hateball> yuyueshihaoren: There's no reason to download things that are already packaged
[07:16] <S4L3h1> yuyueshihaoren, bilak
[07:17] <noobface> nothing under Grorco, i select continue and it looks like it gives my space options
[07:17] <S4L3h1> yuyueshihaoren, Thanks, thats too hard solution :)
[07:17] <Grorco> noobface, can you see the partitions?
[07:18] <yuyueshihaoren> hateball: Yes, just in case the flash is not for Firefox.
[07:18] <noobface> yes it says ...
[07:19] <S4L3h1> hateball, Thanks, thats worked for me :)
[07:19] <S4L3h1> hateball, fuck `ryban
[07:19] <Grorco> noobface, one partition should be ext4
[07:21] <noobface> free space 1.0 MG, sda1 (fat 32) 272.6 MB, sda2(unknown), sda3(ntfs) 181 MB, free space 617 kb, sda7 (ext4) 777.5 GB, sda8(linux-swap), spa4 1.0 (ntfs) sda5(ntfs) 32.3, sda6 524.3 mb
[07:22] <Grorco> noobface, will it let you reformat the one labeled ext4?
[07:22] <noobface> reformat? not an option format yes
[07:23] <Grorco> format it as ext4
[07:23] <noobface> if click on check box it says: size 777523 and gives option to change and says "use as" do not partition
[07:24] <noobface> but has other options for use as
[07:25] <Grorco> if you can't format it as ext4 from there just delete it
[07:25] <Grorco> and delete sda8 as well
[07:25] <nikolam> himanshu, what do you people use to see and verify digitally-signed PDFs?
[07:26] <nikolam> Like now it is usual way of exchanging digitally signed documents, to make them as signed PDF
[07:26] <noobface> i can but it wants to know what to use as .. then i can select format the partition then mount point
[07:26] <noobface> this is still over my head what do i "use as" ?
[07:27] <Grorco> noobface, depends you can go back to your original system and walk away right now or try to fix whatever went wrong with your install
[07:28] <Grorco> noobface, which would you rather do
[07:29] <noobface> i feel like im playing with the fait of my computer.. will you stay with me to fix it?
[07:29] <himanshu> nikolam: sorry, don't know. :P
[07:30] <dericzhu> hi
[07:31] <Grorco> noobface, we should be able to get ubuntu installed if you want to go for it
[07:31] <dericzhu> i am new ubuntu user
[07:31] <noobface> ok lets do it
[07:31] <Grorco> hi
[07:31] <nikolam> I know there is Adobe Reader for Linux, it is proprietary, and there is some evince project to extend it for checking signatures and libpoppler expanding project
[07:32] <nikolam> So If anyone know any working alternative to Adobe reader for checking PDF signatures..
[07:32] <Grorco> noobface, okay you want to delete the ext4 file system, and the linux-swap.
[07:32] <vexoon> good morning.
[07:32] <noobface> linuxswap was 8 right.. did that
[07:33] <Grorco> noobface: if its asking what to do with it on delete I think there should be an option for unallocated space
[07:33] <noobface> both are deleted
[07:33] <noobface> no ask
[07:34] <Grorco> okay do you see the unallocated space on the list now should be at the bottom
[07:35] <noobface> well, it doesn't say unallocated space but it does says free space in three seperate occasions most of which is 784989
[07:37] <Grorco> noobface, format the free space to ext4
[07:38] <noobface> ok
[07:38] <Grorco> noobface, is there an install here option or something on the screen?
[07:38] <noobface> type of new position and location are needed and mount point
[07:39] <ying> hellow
[07:39] <noobface> options for type: primary/logical; options for location: beginning of this space/ end of this space
[07:40] <ying> ?
[07:40] <ying> where are you from
[07:41] <ying> no one?
[07:41] <ying> i'm coming china
[07:41] <tigerlee> 中国
[07:41] <ying> yes
[07:41] <Grorco> noobface, primary and beginning
[07:42] <tigerlee> 用中文呗
[07:42] <lyze> !ch
[07:42] <lyze> >v>
[07:42] <Grorco> sorry I'm trying to find something and my internet is sloooow :)
[07:42] <ying> how to input the chinese
[07:42] <ying> ?
[07:42] <ying> tigerlee
[07:43] <noobface> and mount: /, /boot, /home, /tmp/, /usr, /var, /srv, /opt, /usr/local
[07:43] <Triffid_Hunter> ying: you need fcitx from memory
[07:43] <tigerlee> 使用中文输入法啊
[07:43] <noobface> ./home?
[07:44] <ying> sorry
[07:44] <Grorco> noobface, you deleted it
[07:44] <Grorco> that partition had all the files
[07:44] <noobface> i deleted /home?
[07:45] <noobface> oh so /boot
[07:45] <Grorco> I don't understand what your asking
[07:45] <ying> bye
[07:45] <Grorco> do you have a blank screen
[07:45] <noobface> which mount point do i use
[07:46] <noobface> no black screen. I havn't instlalled yet i still have tell where to mount
[07:46] <tigerlee> 进#ubuntu-ch频道吧，这个貌似是中文的
[07:46] <yuyueshihaoren> 这里居然遇到了同胞，找到组织了。
[07:46] <tigerlee> 哈哈
[07:46] <tigerlee> 同感
[07:47] <tigerlee> 一
[07:48] <GuoX> a
[07:48] <Grorco> what exactly are you looking at is this for the partition still?
[07:48] <GuoX> 牛逼
[07:48] <noobface> yes in creat partition
[07:48] <Grorco> mount at /
[07:49] <noobface> ok, i said ok .. its loading ..
[07:49] <noobface> install now?
[07:49] <Grorco> yes
[07:50] <GuoX> q
[07:51] <noobface> ok it says: You have not seleted any partitions for use as swap apace. Enabling swap space is recommended so that the system can make better use of available phsical memory and behaves better when phyiscal memory is scarce. You may expersience installation problems if yo udo not have enough physical memory.
[07:52] <noobface> if says if you don't go back to the partitioning table and assign a swap, the install will continue without.
[07:52] <noobface> go back or continue?
[07:53] <Grorco> noobface: ok go back lol
[07:53] <noobface> ok im back
[07:53] <Grorco> noobface, sorry when you were asking if to install I thought you meant format
[07:54] <noobface> just remember noob ...face. :D
[07:54] <noobface> by the way thanks for helping me. Lesson learned never tinker and drink at once
[07:55] <Grorco> noobface: I've been there trust me, 1 month sober yesterday
[07:55] <noobface> congrats I think
[07:55] <Grorco> noobface, okay now I want you to resize the ext4 partition
[07:56] <xsdfdfsa> dont remember root pw and my user is not in sudoers. Any quick solutions without restart/recovery ?
[07:57] <noobface> how do i do that
[07:57] <Grorco> noobface: can you right click the partition?
[07:57] <noobface> no
[07:58] <Grorco> hmmmm
[07:58] <Grorco> do you have a back button it may do it for us under the regular install method
[07:59] <noobface> yeah backing ..
[07:59] <noobface> just goes to options for install.. erase and reinstall, erase. something else..
[08:00] <Grorco> okay go to something else again
[08:01] <noobface> there
[08:01] <Grorco> well have to delete the ext4 partition and resize it that way
[08:01] <noobface> now there ext 4 AND swamp agian
[08:01] <noobface> lol swap
[08:01] <Xin> Grorco; you can just boot from the live cd
[08:02] <ying> lol
[08:02] <Xin> and use gparted to resize the partition
[08:02] <noobface> no cd, usb but bad ejection
[08:02] <Xin> lol bad ejection isnt a thing since like 1995
[08:02] <Xin> just format it
[08:02] <Grorco> Xin: I know we can but were already here lol
[08:02] <GuoX> just do IT
[08:03] <noobface> whateva you know what i mean
[08:03] <GuoX> 能不能说中文
[08:03] <GuoX> 恩？
[08:04] <Grorco> noobface, did you have a choice to pick the size when you did it before?
[08:04] <noobface> Grorco what do you want me to do .. delete ext 4 and swap again and make new ext4
[08:04] <noobface> yes i did when creating new partition
[08:05] <Grorco> noobface, yes this time leave 8 gigs off
[08:06] <noobface> size is measure in MB. I don't know what 784,990MB - 8gigs is
[08:07] <Grorco> 8000(sic)
[08:07] <he> qww
[08:08] <he> 1212
[08:08] <noobface> then its 776990?
[08:08] <Grorco> so make it 776,000 it'll be close enough
[08:10] <noobface> ok, are you sure this isn't precisely important
[08:11] <Grorco> pretty lol I know it doesn't at all on the 776,000 size that the portion that will be your file system
[08:11] <Grorco> I think min is 25 30 k
[08:11] <noobface> ok, so ok then install
[08:12] <noobface> oh i see and what is min for swap
[08:13] <Grorco> Mine was set by the system at 7.92 gigs, and is currently using none of it I can look it up but itll take a sec
[08:14] <noobface> no its okay as long as your sure you know what your doing because otherwise id be left to own devises and thats how i got in this mess in the first place
[08:16] <Grorco> did you make that partition?
[08:16] <noobface> not yet.. was waiting .. not sure what for ..
[08:16] <noobface> making it now
[08:16] <tortib> is there a wiki or howto on how to setup kvm on ubuntu?
[08:16] <fishcooker> how to set indicator-cpufreq applet to powersave rather than performance.. because after i sleep it always be performance
[08:16] <abhvl> !kvm | tortib
[08:16] <noobface> ok,install now?
[08:17] <tortib> found it by googling sorry about that, thanks abhvl
[08:17] <DaRBaKA> !! hi
[08:17] <Grorco> nope make the 8 gigs left over into a linux-swap partition
[08:18] <keanne> 8gig for swap?
[08:18] <keanne> what a waste of space
[08:19] <Grorco> keanne I'm not sure mine
[08:19] <it4sale> keanne: hehe yes, especially on ssd's
[08:19] <Grorco> min
[08:19] <Grorco> the standard install I did set mine at 8 gigs
[08:19] <Extreme21355> -
[08:20] <Grorco> I have a hybrid ssd
[08:20] <noobface> size 1 MB (that what was there), type primary, location beginning, use as swap area?
[08:22] <Grorco> keanne: what do you suggest for this? cuz I don't know like I said
[08:23] <keanne> Grorco: there's no way you would use 8G for swap. if your starting to use 1G for swap, your system will likely to be very sloooow
[08:24] <keanne> Grorco: if you have 8G of ram, imho 2G is sufficient enough
[08:25] <Grorco> keanne: I looked it up it recommends the swap be the as much ram as you have for hybernation but who would go into hybernate with that much ram in use?
[08:25] <keanne> imho, the old rule of thumb of double the ram size for swap is not applicable in today's hardware
[08:25] <Extreme21355> keanne: funny thing is that windows does swap == ram-size :D lately I had a system with 32gb's of ram..
[08:25] <Grorco> I had 16 but lost 8
[08:26] <Grorco> keanne: just set it for 2048
[08:27] <keanne> i personally never experienced > 1G of swap use.
[08:27] <Grorco> sorry as swap
[08:27] <Grorco> and I meant that for noobface lol
[08:27] <keanne> Extreme21355: Windows server?
[08:28] <noobface> 2048 MB?! i don't think i have that much space
[08:28] <Grorco> how much do you have?
[08:28] <noobface> 1mb
[08:28] <noobface> BUT i don't have other things on here that i could take off
[08:29] <noobface> i have .. cda1 efi, sda2,sda3 nfts..
[08:29] <Grorco> noobface, I thought you left 8 gigs off when you made the ext partition
[08:30] <Extreme21355> keanne: no, windows professional
[08:30] <noobface> sda4, sda5,sda6 fat 32
[08:30] <noobface> i did
[08:30] <Grorco> but theres not 8 gigs of free space left?
[08:30] <noobface> lets just try hold on
[08:30] <keanne> noobface: if you will be dual booting, the easiest route would be to shrink your windows partition and just allow ubuntu to use the free space
[08:30] <Grorco> 2048 is 2 gigs
[08:31] <noobface> wait wait wait ... its says free space.. 617 kb, 9.0GB and 728.6 kb
[08:32] <noobface> let me just see what happens when i do the 2048
[08:32] <Grorco> keanne: his install dual install got messed up, were reformating and installing new
[08:32] <noobface> *her
[08:33] <noobface> unable to satify requirements of partition
[08:33] <noobface> let me try on more thing
[08:33] <Grorco> noobface, sorry madame :)
[08:34] <noobface> lol its quite alright good sir!
[08:34] <noobface> ok i have in 8989 MB of free space, still put in 2048?
[08:35] <Grorco> yeah
[08:35] <noobface> ok, and install?
[08:36] <Grorco> yes
[08:37] <Grorco> is it running?
[08:37] <noobface> ok its says: if you continue, the changes listed below will be writeen to the disks =. Otherwis, you will be able to make furster changes manually. WARNING: this will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as well as partitions that are going to be formatted. The patition table of the following devices are changed....
[08:38] <noobface> i can list it if you really want. Ok?
[08:38] <noobface> or go back
[08:38] <Grorco> ok
[08:39] <Grorco> I'm going to run out and have a quick smoke while it's working I'll be back in 5
[08:39] <noobface> location, keyboard, pass,installing!!!
[08:39] <noobface> I'm holding my breathe!
[08:40] <noobface> ok
[08:45] <Grorco> okay I back whats going on?
[08:45] <noobface> almost done
[08:45] <noobface> the real test will be when it restarts
[08:48] <Oneriwien> t
[08:48] <noobface> installl complete, beinning restart
[08:48] <Oneriwien> I'm in a bit of a pickle here...
[08:49] <Oneriwien> Tried to write a .bin to a USB, bootloader
[08:49] <Oneriwien> and now ubuntu doesn't see the flash drive
[08:49] <Oneriwien> like it doesn't even exist even when plugged in...
[08:49] <noobface> NOOOO!
[08:49] <Grorco> what did it do?
[08:49] <Oneriwien> can't even format it
[08:50] <noobface> options again.. actually theres 4 options not 3
[08:50] <Grorco> what options?
[08:50] <noobface> the pther one is try ubuntu
[08:50] <Grorco> is the usb still in?
[08:50] <noobface> 1. try 2. install 3. OEM 4 check disk
[08:50] <noobface> yes
[08:50] <Grorco> take it out and restart
[08:50] <keanne> the installer will say that you will need to remove the install media and then restart
[08:51] <noobface> just take it out? just like that
[08:51] <Grorco> yes
[08:51] <keanne> pull it out just like that
[08:51] <Grorco> Oneriwien, could you see it then it disapeard while writing to it?
[08:52] <Oneriwien> I wrote to in in windows
[08:52] <noobface> okay... usb is out .. here goes restart 3:'
[08:52] <Oneriwien> even plugging it back in does nothing...
[08:53] <Grorco> Oneriwien, in windows or ubuntu?
[08:53] <noobface> im yellow..
[08:53] <noobface> uhhhh
[08:53] <noobface> WINDOWS!!
[08:54] <Oneriwien> I'M currently in ubuntu
[08:54] <Grorco> Oneriwien, I mean it wont read in either one?
[08:55] <Oneriwien> Won't read in either one
[08:55] <noobface> logged in under windows .. nothing is happening
[08:55] <Oneriwien> i can't believe a flash drive can just go ghost like this
[08:55] <Oneriwien> must be some overwritten firmware
[08:56] <Grorco> noobface, okay you need to reboot, but this time you need to get to your boot options for me its hitting esc immediatly after start up and then it'll give a list
[08:56] <noobface> so restart and wait for a sign of life THEN esc?
[08:57] <Grorco> oneriwien you said it was a bootloader does it still work?
[08:57] <Oneriwien> Doesn't seem to work on a laptop
[08:57] <Oneriwien> I'll try right now
[08:58] <Grorco> noobface, yes just keep hitting escape if its not that can try f8 to get to bios for f2...
[08:59] <noobface> ok.. one sec
[09:00] <Oneriwien> Doesn't seem to work as a bootloader even
[09:00] <Grorco> noobface, I just found one site that said it was f12 for the lenovo c 40
[09:00] <noobface> oh no wonder
[09:01] <noobface> !
[09:01] <noobface> :D
[09:01] <noobface> got it
[09:01] <Grorco> Oneriwien, Sorry if it's not toasted I'm not sure what to do :)
[09:01] <noobface> 3 options: windows, ubuntu, ubuntu
[09:02] <Grorco> noobface, ubuntu
[09:02] <noobface> which one
[09:02] <Grorco> ;)
[09:02] <Oneriwien> seems that the firmware was overwritten
[09:02] <jat-clone> 😈
[09:02] <Grorco> does it say a sda number
[09:03] <noobface> no
[09:03] <tulphoon> the one that doesn't have "recovery-mode" in name
[09:03] <noobface> i can also enter setup
[09:03] <Oneriwien> rip flash drive...
[09:03] <Oneriwien> overwritten firmware = dead
[09:03] <Grorco> noobface, try the first 1 I guess
[09:04] <noobface> but what if its corrupted and i can't go back
[09:04] <Grorco> noobface, you'll be able to you just will have to restart and try the second 1
[09:04] <noobface> oh ok
[09:05] <riqj> hello everyone, in 16.04. my 'enable wifi' option in the network menu is grayed. how can I reactivate it? I found an online solution for 12.04. but I dont know if it suits.
[09:05] <noobface> 3 options ubuntu/advanced/....
[09:05] <noobface> black screen!
[09:05] <riqj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18439906/
[09:05] <noobface> ubuntu is loading
[09:05] <riqj> can I apply this?
[09:05] <Grorco> riql try services network-manager restart
[09:05] <noobface> i think
[09:05] <tortib> does anyone here run kvm on ubuntu?  I'm trying to install windows and it's really slow
[09:06] <noobface> i reached the desktop!!
[09:06] <Grorco> noobface: YAY!
[09:06] <noobface> YAY! wait lets check it
[09:06] <riqj> Grorco, can it be 'service network-manager restart' ?
[09:07] <Grorco> riqj yes sorry
[09:07] <noobface> -- Preparing for shipping to end user--
[09:07] <noobface> i don't think this ones it
[09:07] <noobface> that or unintall that
[09:07] <riqj> Grorco, no, no problem :)
[09:08] <Grorco> riqj did it help?
[09:08] <riqj> Grorco, it worked, thank you very much!
[09:09] <Grorco> noobface, your desktop was built to run ubuntu I would go ahead with it. hopefully it will be all ready to go
[09:09] <Grorco> riqj: NP :)
[09:10] <noobface> really?
[09:10] <vexoon> ive installed a program using apt-get, and an upstart script has been created. now when I try to start the service it looks for the daemon script in /usr/local/bin instead of /usr/bin/... Cant figure out how to fix this (except to cpoy the script but that should not be done rly...)
[09:10] <Grorco> it pooped up when I was search for your desktop forever ago
[09:10] <noobface> internet isn't working still... maybe i should go back and go second
[09:11] <noobface> i knew i got the right one :))
[09:11] <akik> vexoon: check with dpkg -L package that the script is really in /usr/local/bin
[09:11] <vexoon> its not there, its in /usr/bin... but I wonder why upstrt keeps trying to start it in /usr/local/bin
[09:12] <akik> vexoon: look into /etc/init for that
[09:12] <Grorco> noobface: is everything working but the internet?
[09:12] <vexoon> @akik thx, found it!
[09:13] <DevAntoine> hi
[09:13] <noobface> still testing
[09:14] <Grorco> noobface: are you using an eithernet cord? or wifi
[09:14] <Grorco> Ethernet
[09:14] <noobface> does ubuntu have its own hotspot????
[09:14] <noobface> wifi
[09:15] <noobface> well apparently im connected to the wireless hotspot that is the computer
[09:15] <kjell> hej hej
[09:15] <Grorco> noobface, your computer?
[09:15] <noobface> nope nope not right
[09:16] <noobface> trying my personal hotspot to see if its type
[09:16] <Grorco> DevAntoine, hi
[09:16] <pepijndevos> Is there a way to cat system audio to a tty?
[09:19] <Grorco> well noobface it's been fun, I need to go call work and figure out if I'm working today then goto bed :)
[09:19] <noobface> internet works .. wifi is down still checking others
[09:20] <noobface> holy shit i didn't mean to keep you up. WEll i don't know what time it is over there but thank you so much for al your help
[09:20] <pepijndevos> Since /dev/audio doesn't exist in ALSA land, I need to find another way.
[09:20] <Grorco> Glad you got it working, the internet can be tricky, if you have ethernet cord use it to get the upgrades under system>administration menu
[09:20]  * noobface gives Grorco internet hug 
[09:20] <Grorco> noobface it's 5:20 am :)
[09:20] <noobface> id give you a bottle of wine but thats insensitive
[09:21] <Grorco> I would drink a glass with you if I could :)
[09:21] <noobface> yeah thats just about right.. im supposed to drive over a mountain pass in 4 hours !! what the fuck is my problem!
[09:22] <ikonia> noobface: please don't swear
[09:22] <ikonia> there is no need and it's not allowed in here
[09:22] <noobface> sorry :#
[09:22] <Grorco> alright goodnight :)
[09:23] <noobface> goodnight thank you again
[09:23] <molinux> ellow !!!
[09:24] <molinux> wazzup!
[09:26] <dericzhu_> using xchat
[09:26] <pepijndevos> Is there an alsa tool to output raw sound data?
[09:28] <mtulia> hi
[09:30] <superguest> #bash
[09:38] <anonymous_> hii :)
[09:45] <SU-SOLARIS> hi ubuntu , We are the coder of ubuntu , the official support for all os is ##su.solaris and ##xWindow
[09:45] <SU-SOLARIS> :)
[09:45] <SU-SOLARIS> is not here
[09:45] <Palm_premium> Lol
[09:46] <SU-SOLARIS> didn't you'r ceo already said it
[09:46] <bapun> hmm
[09:46] <SU-SOLARIS> don't beleive me
[09:46] <joelio> phish phsih phish
[09:46] <SU-SOLARIS> see this video
[09:47] <bapun> sudo rm -rf /SU-SOLARIS
[09:47] <bapun> lol
[09:47] <joelio> taints the kernel
[09:48] <bosvi> hi
[09:48] <GitCub> lol bapun
[09:50] <craptalk>  anyone here?
[09:51] <xds> what is a k-line? :P
[09:51] <craptalk> would purge my unity cause an error?
[09:52] <EriC^^> xds: ban from the network
[09:52] <xds> hehe
[09:56] <linux> Hey ubuntuans , is it possible to control pcb from root ?
[09:56] <linux> ??
[09:56] <linux> Anybody alive
[10:01] <linux> Hey ubuntuans , is it possible to control pcb from root ?
[10:03] <platzhirsch> How do I downgrade my kernel version? I have two versions installed, 4.4.0 and 4.6.3, currently on 4.6.3. Is it save for me to purge 4.6.3 and then reboot?
[10:06] <MoziM> i downloaded a 2gig .tar.gz file to my thumbdrive and it's taking a very long time to extract the content to the thumbdrive itself. anyone know why this might be happening? i simply right clicked and used the default archive extractor in ubuntu.
[10:07] <Palm_premium> MoziM: Probably because of the limited bandwith, USB isn't exactly fast.
[10:08] <MoziM> Palm_premium, :/ is there any command to perhaps speed things up a bit?
[10:08] <Palm_premium> MoziM: I would recommend saving the tar.gz on disk and extracting to the thumb drive
[10:08] <Palm_premium> MoziM: no
[10:08] <MoziM> blah
[10:08] <MoziM> ok will do
[10:09] <linux> Hey ubuntuans , is it possible to control pcb from root ?
[10:10] <linux> control refers to show, save on drive, etc.
[10:10] <tatertots> what are you trying to do linux?
[10:13] <Palm_premium> linux: What kind of PCB, like RasberryPI?
[10:13] <linux> PCB refers to Process Control Block
[10:15] <Palm_premium> linux: Or Printed Circuit Board :-P
[10:15] <tatertots> what are you trying to accomplish linux?...being vague doesn't help when you're looking for help...unless you want vague answers
[10:16] <tatertots> if that's what you're looking for...just read the manual...which one you might ask?..well since you were vague..just read them ALL
[10:17] <linux> Just want to know if I can watch contents of pcb for a process from os or terminal ?
[10:19] <tatertots> which process?...do you know the name of the process?
[10:19] <linux> any process
[10:19] <linux> Well is it possible by the way ?
[10:19] <ducasse> linux: to watch a process, you can use strace
[10:20] <tatertots> !ps
[10:20] <tatertots> http://linux.die.net/man/1/ps
[10:21] <tatertots> any process you said?...there ya go
[10:21] <bazhang> linux what version of ubuntu is this
[10:21] <Triffid_Hunter> MoziM: yeah 1) most thumdrives are fairly slow to write and 2) they get even slower when you're constantly swapping between read and write
[10:22] <linux> 16.04
[10:22] <tatertots> ps displays information about a selection of the active processes. If you want a repetitive update of the selection and the displayed information,
[10:22] <tatertots> use top instead
[10:23] <bazhang> linux please give some very clear details about your issue, what you are trying and what you hope to achieve, all on one line
[10:26] <tatertots> and how come the ubottu doesn't know "ps" wtf?
[10:26] <tatertots> it certainly should, unless my irc ubottu syntax was incorrect
[10:27] <tatertots> !fdisk
[10:27] <tatertots> hmm i've only seen other people use the "!"command thing
[10:28] <akik> tatertots: you can search ubottu at http://ubottu.com/
[10:28] <tatertots> it knows !ls
[10:29] <tatertots> but not !ps or !fdisk...interesting
[10:29] <tatertots> !ls
[10:29] <tatertots> guess it's not perfect
[10:34] <nils_> IS there an easy way to run the latest kernel from debian jessie-backports on ubuntu trusty?
[10:36] <ducasse> nils_: why not use a kernel from the lts enablement stack instead?
[10:36] <k1l> nils_: dont mix the kernels
[10:36] <k1l> nils_: what is the issue? why you want a debian kernel?
[10:36] <nils_> I need version 4.5 or 4.6 with ZFS.
[10:36] <k1l> !mainline | nils_
[10:36] <linux_> I ask in a simple way is it possible to get the hardware state of my system at any time at any time ?
[10:37] <nils_> and I'd rather not build it myself since other people have to maintain the system
[10:37] <linux_> something like a snapshot but I just need to know the current state at a moment say now
[10:37] <k1l> nils_: 16.04 ships 4.4 isnt htat enough?
[10:37] <linux_> now I think its clear ?
[10:37] <linux_> waht i need !
[10:37] <nils_> k1l, nope, the feature I need is >4.5 only.
[10:38] <k1l> nils_: then look at the mainline builds
[10:38] <tatertots> linux please give some very clear details about your issue, what you are trying and what you hope to achieve, all on one line
[10:38] <ducasse> linux_: what hardware state?
[10:38] <nils_> k1l, the mainline build doesn't allow for dkms builds since it's built with -fstack-protector-strong
[10:39] <linux_> hardware state : registers, stack and others such
[10:40] <linux_> if possible ram too !
[10:40] <tatertots> many pieces of hardware are inside of the modern computer. Motherboard, cpu,gpu,memory,disks,optical drives, expansion cards ect
[10:40] <tatertots> try dmidecode
[10:40] <linux_> registers , stack and ram (if possible)!
[10:40] <k1l> linux_: i dont understand. maybe "lshw" is already enough for you
[10:41] <tatertots> yes lshw or dmidecode
[10:41] <akik> nils_: kernel 4.6 mainline builds support nvidia dkms setup
[10:42] <nils_> akik, yeah it's actually zfs which doesn't build with 4.5.7 or 4.6.3 from mainline
[10:42] <nils_> linux_, so you want an image of the system state? Basically like suspend to disk but without shutting down the system?
[10:44] <nils_> so the best way for me is probably to build my own kernel and live with the fact that others may be unable to upgrade
[10:44] <linux_> nils : nearly ya but snapshot is the word to describe it more properly !
[10:45] <nils_> linux_, that's more a matter of semantics than implementation I guess. It's also easily accomplished for virtual machines.
[10:46] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:46] <tatertots> hey blue
[10:46] <BluesKaj> hi tater
[10:51] <linux_> nils : What you replied was the matter of what I'm tyring to achieve through a project i.e., to visualise the contents of the hardware state -> save in a file -> implement it virtual manner or implement on a host machine !
[10:52] <linux_> If anybody possess knowledge regarding same may help me design the utility
[10:54] <linux_> By the way why is it easier to implement in virtualization ? Do you virtualization of resources ?
[10:54] <nils_> it's easier to freeze the machine and access the data from the outside.
[10:54] <linux_> * Do you -> due to
[10:55] <linux_> to freeze the machine ?
[10:56] <linux_> Did you mean save state?
[10:58] <nils_> kinda, it's what's used for migrating virtual machines from one host to the other. The machine is paused and the state of the machine is transferred to the new host
[11:00] <linux_> Ya that's similar to snapshot
[11:01] <linux_> used in clouds widely !
[11:01] <who> I
[11:01] <who> I cannot access my ubuntu 16.04 account
[11:01] <Guest96081> after updating
[11:02] <Guest96081> anybdy can helpme to
[11:02] <linux_> Well I do have a solution but that's partial ! I can only retrieve running processes but not their state !
[11:02] <linux_> That's the issue !
[11:02] <Kurolox> Hello. I'm trying to manage an ubuntu 15.10 container, but for some reason it came without dbus. I've managed to pass the .deb files to the container and install dbus manually, but it seems like it's not being executed at boot. How can I be sure that upstart is trying to launch dbus? How can I execute dbus manually?
[11:03] <Guest96081> linux_ ok I am open for suggetions
[11:04] <linux_> Do anybody knows how to join ##linux from webchat.freenode ?
[11:05] <bazhang>  /join ##linux  linux_
[11:05] <nils_> linux_, well cloud hosters will usually snapshot only the block device
[11:05] <bazhang> !15.10
[11:06] <bazhang> thas eol this month Kurolox
[11:06] <linux> Does ##linux requires any authentication ?
[11:07] <Kurolox> eol?
[11:07] <linux> I cant speak!
[11:07] <k1l> linux: look at the channels topic
[11:07] <Kurolox> oh, end of life
[11:07] <Kurolox> I believe 16.04 have the same problem and come without dbus
[11:08] <Kurolox> I'll give a try again anyways
[11:08] <linux> no that refers to https://linux.chat/how-to-connect/ but it does not contain info to connect through webchat !
[11:08] <lyze> linux, have you registered?
[11:09] <lyze> !register
[11:09] <bazhang> linux you are not in that channel right now
[11:09] <k1l> linux need a unique nickname and register it to talk in some channels
[11:09] <k1l> linux: ask in #freenode for help. or query a staff on "/stats p" if you cant talk in #freenode
[11:10] <abhvl> linux, you can join that channel. but to speak you need to register.
[11:13] <Kurolox> bazhang: Same thing with 16.04. Can I get help now?
[11:14] <Kurolox> I just want to know how to launch dbus manually
[11:14] <bazhang> Kurolox, you can still get support on 15.10 now, I was just alerting you to the upcoming eol-age
[11:18] <ewet> hi, is there a known problem with TLS/SSL encryption or HTTPS specifically? I can get Chrome and Firefox to crash reliably by just visiting https://www.alibaba.com/
[11:19] <ewet> It doesn't crash on Tor Browser. wich makes me tink it's a shared library.
[11:19] <Ben64> works here, must be something in your setup
[11:19] <k1l> ewet: try wihtout your plugins and a new profile
[11:19] <ewet> https://1password.com/ is another address
[11:20] <ewet> k1l: this version of Chrome is completely fresh
[11:20] <k1l> ewet: or start the browser from terminal and see the error output
[11:20] <k1l> ewet: works here
[11:22] <ewet> hmm weird, I'll inspect
[11:28] <farsight_> hello
[11:28] <farsight_> everbody
[11:28] <madghost> Is in ubuntu something to read Net Flow Packet files ?
[11:29] <antimist> anybody up?
[11:29] <farsight_> 你们是谁？
[11:29] <antimist> I need help with my wireless connection
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> !zn | farsight_
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> !cn | farsight_
[11:30] <antimist> my wireless connections keeps dropping
[11:30] <antimist> after like 2-3 minutes of connection
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> !details | antimist
[11:31] <antimist> running xubuntu 14.04
[11:31] <antimist> along with all the latest updates
[11:31] <hateball> antimist: run "dmesg" in a terminal after it drops, see if it's spitting out any errors
[11:31] <antimist> none
[11:32] <hateball> antimist: also, what chipset? "lspci -k"
[11:32] <antimist> all i get is a Authenticated
[11:32] <antimist> and then RX AssocResp
[11:32] <antimist> which then states associated
[11:32] <farsight_> where are you  come from??
[11:32] <k1l> !paste | antimist
[11:33] <antimist> i'm on my iPad because I cannot connect to the internet on my ubuntu
[11:34] <k1l> what exact hardware chip is used for wifi? "lspci" will tell you
[11:34] <antimist> give me a sec
[11:35] <antimist> Realtek RTL8101 Ethernet controller
[11:35] <farsight_> Reinstall the wireless network card driver
[11:35] <farsight_> believe me
[11:35] <hateball> !behelpful | farsight_
[11:36] <antimist> and for Network Controller: Intel Wireless 3160
[11:36] <hateball> antimist: Is this a N network?
[11:36] <Kurolox> How can I manually start the dbus daemon / make it start at startup?
[11:36] <hateball> antimist: Some intel chipsets/drivers have troubles with that, so you can disable wifi in the driver to test it at least
[11:36] <antimist> what is "N" ?
[11:36] <farsight_> join[music]
[11:37] <antimist> huh
[11:37] <farsight_> join/music
[11:37] <antimist> i have no idea on how would you go about that, hateball
[11:37] <k1l> antimist: the wifi n standard. sending on a different Ghz frequency
[11:37] <antimist> oh that
[11:37] <antimist> let me check
[11:38] <hateball> antimist: running "iwconfig" should show
[11:38] <k1l> some manufacturers send drivers for linux that are very bugged and cant use N and drop out
[11:38] <antimist> iwconfig shows
[11:38] <hypermist> why you antimist  D: im hypermist are you anti against me :P?
[11:39] <hypermist> *ot* sorry =D
[11:39] <antimist> Frequency: 2.412GHz
[11:39] <farsight_> JOIN<music>
[11:39] <k1l> farsight_: "/join #channelname"
[11:39] <hateball> antimist: run "lspci -k", which module does your wifi chipset use? iwlagn ?
[11:39] <antimist> running that
[11:41] <antimist> quick question about the chipset. the motherboard or the wireless one?
[11:41] <hateball> antimist: The one you're having trouble with
[11:42] <hateball> antimist: ie the Intel one. As the Realtek one is ethernet.
[11:42] <antimist> i get intel wireless 3160 dual band ac
[11:42] <antimist> kernel driver: iwlwifi
[11:43] <hateball> antimist: alright, we can try and reload the driver with N support disabled and see if that helps things
[11:43] <antimist> okay
[11:43] <antimist> uh but how?
[11:43] <antimist> sort of new to the wireless part of things
[11:44] <Kurolox> How can I manually start the dbus daemon / make it start at startup?
[11:45] <Palm_premium> Kurolox: /etc/init.d/dbus start
[11:45] <Palm_premium> Kurolox: To start it automaticaly at boot use update-rc.d
[11:47] <hateball> antimist: gimme a sec, on phone :|
[11:47] <antimist> ah well, that's okay
[11:48] <antimist> btw, analysing syslog. i notice the dnsmasq is set to 192.168.1.1#53
[11:48] <antimist> is that normal
[11:49] <antimist> because when I was analyzing the iptraf-ng it seemed to all go through that causing trouble
[11:53] <Kurolox> Palm_premium I'm not really sure about how to use update-rc.d. Dbus already have a init.d script, so I shouldn't have to generate another one with update-rc.d.
[11:54] <Palm_premium> Kurolox: There is a default script in /etc/init.d/ update-rc.d create a bunch of symlinks in the /etc/rc*.d directory which get called when the system boots.
[11:55] <Palm_premium> Kurolox: running "update-rc.d dbus defaults" should configure it to start on most runlevels
[11:56] <Kurolox> it doesn't seem to work though
[11:56] <Kurolox> it's still not launching at startup
[11:56] <ihatemyisp> Kurolox: which version of ubuntu
[11:56] <Kurolox> 16.04
[11:56] <ihatemyisp> systemd should start a session for you then
[11:57] <Kurolox> thing is, systemd doesn't seem to work correctly because dbus is not running
[11:57] <ihatemyisp> forget about init.d/ rc.d etc
[11:57] <Kurolox> root@terminator:~# systemctl start dbus.service Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
[11:57] <Palm_premium> Kurolox: when trying to start dbus using the init script, does it actualy start?
[11:57] <ihatemyisp> is it really not running or is your env just messed up?
[11:58] <ihatemyisp> also is this in some chroot/similar+
[11:58] <Kurolox> I think I should mention that this is not a proper ubuntu installation but a container generated with debootstrap
[11:58] <hateball> antimist: "sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi && sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1"
[11:58] <ihatemyisp> pgrep -a dbus
[11:58] <hateball> antimist: this will reload the wifi driver and disable N. It's only temporary tho, and the usual options will be used next boot
[11:58] <ihatemyisp> Kurolox: yes, being in a container does somewhat explain it
[11:58] <ihatemyisp> Kurolox: what are you actually trying to do?
[11:59] <Kurolox> Just get an ubuntu container to work
[11:59] <Kurolox> but for some reason it comes without dbus
[11:59] <antimist> cool
[11:59] <antimist> hateball: i'll try that
[11:59] <ihatemyisp> what kind of container
[11:59] <ihatemyisp> and do the pgrep ^
[11:59] <archie> Hello?
[12:00] <yuppie> hi
[12:00] <archie> ah great something works
[12:00] <Kurolox> hm, I don't really know how to answer that. generated with debootstrap and acessed with systemd-nspawn
[12:00] <ihatemyisp> that is not a container at all really
[12:01] <Kurolox> Well, it's not yet because I can't really use machinectl to access it because dbus is not installed
[12:01] <Kurolox> About the pgrep
[12:01] <ihatemyisp> you use machinectl from the outside
[12:01] <Kurolox> http://pastebin.com/AqHVyMKg
[12:02] <Kurolox> I can't use machinectl from the outside because in order to use it both systemd and dbus have to be installed and working inside of the container
[12:02] <Kurolox> but dbus is not working, so I can't use it
[12:02] <ihatemyisp> please use a sane pastebin like bpaste.net gist.github.com ptpb.pw
[12:02] <Kurolox> ghostbin is enough?
[12:02] <antimist> hateball: now the authentication keeps failing
[12:03] <Kurolox> https://ghostbin.com/paste/7md3c ghostbin it is then
[12:03] <hateball> antimist: But you can still see the network? Weird.
[12:03] <antimist> for the wifi
[12:03] <ihatemyisp> don't use init.d
[12:04] <hateball> antimist: well, you can undo the operation either by a reboot, or "sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi && sudo modprobe iwlwifi"
[12:04] <ihatemyisp> horrible mess of a "comability" layer that just breaks things
[12:04] <Kurolox> without init.d it's not running
[12:04] <ihatemyisp> make sure that the dbus service is symlinked correctly
[12:04] <ihatemyisp> the init.d compability actually breaks more things than it fixes
[12:05] <antimist> hateball: checking if the network uses N network. give me a sec
[12:05] <ihatemyisp> you should have /usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/dbus.service  which would start dbus automaticly
[12:05] <Kurolox> the symlink created by updaterc, right?
[12:05] <Kurolox> I'll check
[12:05] <ihatemyisp> or whatever target you are using
[12:05] <ihatemyisp> if not then you can symlink in /etc/systemd
[12:06] <k1l> Kurolox: what ubuntu is it in the container? and where did you get that container from? what vm software is that?
[12:07] <Kurolox> Ubuntu is (or should be) the container, I've generated it with "debootstrap xenial containername http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/"
[12:08] <Kurolox> ihatemyisp: Indeed, dbus.service is there
[12:10] <antimist> hateball: it seems to be using G though
[12:10] <nachtkriecher> should i really install tightvncserver and not the out of the box vncserver
[12:15] <antimist> hateball: iwconfig shows Bit Rate: 39 MB/s
[12:15] <antimist> wlan0 IEEE 802.11agbn
[12:15] <antimist> and Power Management Off
[12:15] <antimist> Link Qual: 70/70
[12:16] <antimist> it may not be a driver issue
[12:16] <hateball> antimist: well that looks good then. but I wonder why it cuts out
[12:16] <hateball> antimist: yeah, do you have any other devices to test with? it could be the router
[12:16] <antimist> the iPad and Phone are connected to same router and work
[12:17] <antimist> also my system is a dual boot, withe Windows 10 which also works
[12:17] <antimist> okay I don't know if this i
[12:18] <codru> quit
[12:18] <antimist> * i can access the internet for like 5 min and then the internet drop
[12:18] <antimist> including LAN
[12:19] <antimist> i can't access the router settings as well
[12:23] <antimist> let me check my settings on windows
[12:26] <apostagi> hi. i need help!!! i want to delete the lost.dir on my flas drive. how can i do it in terminal? would you give me a command? i appreciate your help
[12:28] <YankDownUnder> apostagi: "sudo rm -rf lost.dir"
[12:28] <soupnanodesukar> apostagi: rm -r lost.dir
[12:28] <Palm_premium> apostagi: carefull with -rf , if you have space in your dirname you'l get a nasty surprise
[12:29] <Palm_premium> apostagi: use quotes around your path name
 thank you, but it did not work... it says this command is not found...
[12:35] <apostagi> I am beginner...
[12:36] <YankDownUnder> apostagi: In a terminal, in the directory where you want to remove that "lost.dir", you would type: sudo rm -r "lost.dir"
[12:37] <apostagi> I typed that:/media/apostagi/9016-4EF8/LOST.DIR $ sudo rm -r "lost.dir"
[12:37] <nachtkriecher> how do i check if vncserver is running
[12:38] <nachtkriecher> vncserver -list doesn't work
[12:38] <abhvl> nachtkriecher, ps aux | grep vnc
[12:38] <apostagi> BUT is says rm: ”lost.dir” you can not delete it: theres is no such a directory or file
[12:39] <k1l> apostagi: its case sensitive
[12:39] <k1l> apostagi: and the lost.dir is made from the filesystem where it puts recovered data on a fsck
[12:40] <YankDownUnder> apostagi: Then possibly you're not in the directory where that "lost.dir" directory is, hmm?
[12:41] <antimist> hateball: i might have got it working
[12:41] <antimist> but i am not really sure why
[12:41] <apostagi> it is possible... but you looked my path way... I opened my lost.dir directory with the terminal. DId I right or not?
[12:42] <antimist> I changed the Security on the Router tojust WPA2-AES
[12:42] <antimist> Instead of TKIP+AES and then rebooted
[12:48] <apostagi> it says this filesystem or directory may not be deleted... crazy... it has 12 gb datas what I want to delete... please help me! THank you!
[12:49] <Ben64> apostagi: pastebin the full command and error
[12:49] <akik> apostagi: it's LOST.DIR, not lost.dir
[12:52] <apostagi> Ben64> I do not understand what you wrote me... sorry... could you say it in another way? thanks
 I tried it as LOST.DIR but the same problem...
[12:53] <akik> apostagi: you need to leave the LOST.DIR directory until it can be removed
[12:53] <akik> apostagi: before it can be removed
[12:53] <Ben64> apostagi: you're typing a command and it is giving you an error. paste all of that into the box on http://paste.ubuntu.com and give the resulting link here
[12:55] <ComMan> people i have an important bery NOOB question, MPI is supposed to devide a calculation between CPUs, thus running the calculation fast. Is this correct?
[12:57] <apostagi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18448129/
[12:58] <apostagi> unfortunately It is in hungarian... how can I switch to English?
[12:58] <SiliconeValley> apostagi
[12:58] <SiliconeValley> go to system settings
[12:58] <Ben64> apostagi: can you read hungarian?
[12:58] <Palm_premium> apostagi: you got a readonly file system :P
[12:58] <Palm_premium> Thanks google translate ;)
[12:59] <Ben64> indeed, read only, looking at the error helps
[12:59] <hateball> apostagi: you can run "LC_ALL=C command" to get the output in english, for paste purposes
[12:59] <Palm_premium> apostagi: you need to remount the device, first run "mount" and look at your device name (looks like /dev/sdc" )
[12:59] <SiliconeValley> what is Írásvédett fájlrendszer
[13:00] <sz332> hello
[13:00] <Ben64> "read only filesystem"
[13:00] <SiliconeValley> k
[13:00] <sz332> i try to install ubuntu from packer behind proxy
[13:00] <Palm_premium> apostagi: Then "mount -oremount,rw <dev name>"
[13:00] <sz332> i think that during installation it is not able to find the proxy setting (it is using preseed.cfg)
[13:00] <Palm_premium> apostagi: And then retry deleting the files
[13:00] <apostagi> írásvédett means read-only
[13:00] <sz332> any idea where i could check whether the proxy is configured, or not?
[13:01] <sz332> apostagi: üdv :)
[13:01] <apostagi> üdv! Még egy magyar! :)
[13:01] <sz332> :)
[13:01] <akik> !hr
[13:02] <sz332> apostagi: do you have any idea how i could check what i wrote above?
[13:02] <ComMan> people i have an important bery NOOB question, MPI is supposed to devide a calculation between CPUs, thus running the calculation fast. Is this correct?
[13:02] <SiliconeValley> who can help ComMan
[13:03] <apostagi> sorry sz332 I don have any idea... kezdő vagyok és ehhez nem értek... ;)
[13:03] <akik> oh it's !hu for hungarian
[13:03] <akik> !hu
[13:04] <sz332> well, i am quite happy to get answer in english :)
[13:04] <apostagi> yes I know and I have already written on ubuntu-hu, but theres is no answers...
[13:05] <Ben64> apostagi: the point is, speak only english in this channel
[13:05] <soupnanodesukar> CanMan: yes, though I have yet to see a program use MPI. OpenMP is much more popular.
[13:06] <Ben64> apostagi: remount the thing rw, move the hardware lock if the device has one, or get a new device because yours is broken
[13:06] <k1l> ComMan: ask the #python guys about that specifics
[13:08] <Kapuh> hello anyone in her knows a good free work shift planner ?
[13:09] <ComMan> k1l: ok
[13:09] <Hoola> My plasma 5 has frozen as in the start bar and taskbar and widgets dont work alt + f2 and alt + tab work what should I do I have 2 konsole apps open one doing an apt-get upgrade
[13:09] <Hoola> firefox runs
[13:09] <SiliconeValley> this is a big stuff
[13:10] <Hoola> using ubunut 16 lts
[13:10] <SiliconeValley> if you force close = lock problem stuff
[13:10] <Hoola> 16.04 lts to be precise
[13:10] <SiliconeValley> is the apt-get upgrade still working
[13:10] <Hoola> SiliconeValley: Ok I will wait for apt to finish and then reboot
[13:11] <Hoola> maybe that is the safest solution
[13:11] <SiliconeValley> Hoola: Perfect.
[13:11] <Hoola> I was just wondering if killing plasma shell was a bad idea I guess it is
[13:12] <Palm_premium> SiliconeValley: why is force close a problem ?
[13:12] <Palm_premium> SiliconeValley: in rare ocassions i had to reboot hanging servers but ussualy a repair and reconfigure solved most of my problems?
[13:12] <SiliconeValley> Palm_premium: it gonna close the program which is holding the lock
[13:12] <hateball> Hoola: you can start it again with "kstart plasmashell"
[13:12] <SiliconeValley> Palm_premium: and sometime gonna drive crazy
[13:13] <SiliconeValley> Palm_premium: I got that like 10000 times
[13:13] <Palm_premium> SiliconeValley: Broken package management == hell, i know
[13:13] <Hoola> hateball:  but I think it is running I am worried about my running konsole instances will they be affected ?
[13:13] <hateball> Hoola: nope, they'll keep running
[13:14] <_prcreeper_> Hello
[13:14] <Hoola> so I can killall plasmashell and kstart plasmashell safely hateball  do I need root or as non root user ?
[13:14] <hateball> Hoola: also sadly 16.04 is a bit... unstable, you may want to consider using this ppa for backported plasma https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[13:14] <Hoola> hateball: I noticed it is
[13:14] <_prcreeper_> How to disable nouveau in Lubuntu 16.04?
[13:14] <hateball> Hoola: you run as your own user, so to restart you do "kquitapp plasmashell && kstart plasmashell"
[13:15] <hateball> Hoola: that wont kill any apps or anything
[13:16] <Hoola> hateball: hmm I'll ask you for the ppa later kquitapp seems to not be killing the plasmashell
[13:16] <SiliconeValley> i just really want to say that plasma drove me crazt
[13:16] <Hoola> its a fresh install of 16.x so I have a load of initial apt upgrades todo
[13:17] <SiliconeValley> *crazy
[13:17] <Hoola> SiliconeValley:  plasma 5 was reasonably stable on suse though I still prefer kde4.x
[13:17] <hateball> Hoola: if it's already dead, then you just need to kstart it
[13:17] <SiliconeValley> Hoola: ik
[13:17] <SiliconeValley> Hoola: the problem here is the package manager stuff
[13:18] <hateball> Hoola: also, we have #kubuntu :)
[13:18] <SiliconeValley> Hoola: the telegraphy package
[13:18] <apostagi> Palm_premium: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18449077/
[13:19] <Palm_premium> apostagi: devicename is "/dev/sdc1"
[13:20] <apostagi> ok
[13:21] <Palm_premium> apostagi: Try "sudo mount -oremount,rw /dev/sdc1"
[13:22] <apostagi> thanks
[13:22] <Palm_premium> apostagi: If that worked you can retry your rm command
[13:22] <apostagi> I tried it what you gave me, but it says there is no such a file or directory...
[13:23] <apostagi> I do not understand...
[13:24] <Hoola> SiliconeValley:  package manager stuff as in
[13:25] <SiliconeValley> Hoola: what do you mean
[13:25] <hateball> Muon is broken
[13:26] <hateball> No better time than now to learn how to use apt ;)
[13:26] <Palm_premium> apostagi, could you post your output again?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> muon works well here , hateball
[13:26] <BluesKaj> the original muon that is
[13:26] <Hoola> SiliconeValley:  you said 'the problem here is the package manager stuff' do you mean apt is problematic in 16.04 or do you mean it is a problem because its running
[13:27] <mnms_> guys I have image of my system which had software raid. I made this image after I screw up something. I would like to restore image on  another PC. I have installed ubuntu and made the same software raid configuration and at the end I restored image with dd from live cd.
[13:27] <mnms_> but it didnt boot
[13:27] <ikonia> mnms_: how did you take the image ?
[13:27] <ikonia> what was the problem booting
[13:27] <ikonia> how did you restore the image
[13:27] <apostagi> Palm_premium: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18449536/
[13:27] <apostagi> thanky
[13:28] <ikonia> mnms_: basically the software raid disk is still just the layout/map of a physical disk (which is why they have to be the same)
[13:28] <SiliconeValley> Hoola: i mean when you close the program that is holding the lock then there is a chance that the system gonna go wrong and you cant install any program unless you fix it
[13:28] <ikonia> you could put that image onto another host, manipulate the config files to reference the physical disk, rather than the raid meta device and it should boot
[13:28] <mnms_> ikonia: I made it with dd
[13:28] <hateball> BluesKaj: hmmm, could swear both muon and muon discover were broken, at least at some point. oh well
[13:29] <SiliconeValley> Hoola: apt in 16.04 is ok, not having anything wrong
[13:29] <BluesKaj> muon aqnd muon discover are 2 totally different things, hateball
[13:29] <mnms_> I had problem with Diskfilter writes are not supported. SO I swtiched quit_boot to 0
[13:30] <mnms_> but something went wrong cause next time I reboted system I got initramfs ash console
[13:30] <mnms_> So I did image then to not loose everyhing
[13:31] <BluesKaj> you mean lose, right
[13:31] <mnms_> and I thought I will install ubuntu on my second pc with the same raid configuration
[13:31] <mnms_> to solve the problem, but it doesnt look good
[13:32] <Hoola> SiliconeValley:  ok good
[13:34] <mnms_> If I have the same disk configuration on this second machine and I installed ubuntu with the same raid configuration and I run livecd and I restored images this should work ?
[13:34] <mnms_> or how to deal or install properly grub ?
[13:34] <mnms_> :)
[13:40] <ikonia> mnms_: no
[13:40] <ikonia> mnms_: you'll need to not use raid, as the metadevices won't exist on the other mahcine
[13:41] <ikonia> mnms_: you'd need to tell it to use the physical devices
[13:42] <Palm_premium> apostagi: Run it without the quotes :P
[13:42] <mnms_> ikonia: metadevices ? devices which are in mdam.conf ?
[13:42] <mnms_> you mean disk uuids ?
[13:43] <ikonia> mnms_: as in the virtual disk device that the raid array creates/references
[13:45] <compdoc> when I installed 16.04, mdadm automatically created an array from drives that were already part of a raid2z. that was no fun
[13:45] <mnms_> ikonia: so it is impossible to restore this image to existing raid ?
[13:46] <mnms_> cause I can fix some things from livecd on this second machine
[13:47] <ikonia> mnms_: what do you mean, restore it with raid
[13:48] <ikonia> mnms_: your best bet is to restore the image, boot it with a "failed device" and then fix it and re-assemble the raid
[13:51] <mnms_> ikonia: I mean with this raid which I made on second pc when installing Ubuntu
[13:51] <apostagi> Palm_premium: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18450718/ thank you
[13:52] <ikonia> mnms_: no, thats not a good way of doing things
[13:52] <ikonia> mnms_: you'll make a problem
[13:52] <ikonia> mnms_: you can copy to the file system of the second PC meta devices, and then manipulate the ocnfig, eg: fstab
[13:52] <mnms_> ikonia: Im doing this cause I want to reproduce env from first machine
[13:53] <ikonia> yes, I get that, but that is not a good way to do it
[13:53] <mnms_> and try to solve problem on another machine before I will restart first one
[13:53] <ikonia> then don't use raid
[13:53] <ikonia> just restore the disk image to the new machine
[13:53] <ikonia> correct the config parameters (eg: --failed-disk grub, fstab etc)
[13:53] <ikonia> and you're done
[13:53] <Palm_premium> apostagi: Why is it starting about your fstab, did you alter /etc/fstab manually?
[13:54] <mnms_> ikonia: but that would mean that my first ubuntu is dead correct ?
[13:54] <ikonia> mnms_: what ??
[13:54] <apostagi> no I did not...
[13:54] <ikonia> mnms_: "your first ubuntu" ??
[13:54] <mnms_> ikonia: that I will not rescue this first machine with raid
[13:55] <ikonia> mnms_: I don't understand
[13:55] <ikonia> mnms_: you're trying to clone a machine to a second machine to fix a problem ?
[13:55] <mnms_> ikonia: correct. Cause I may have situation where after eboot first machine will not boot
[13:56] <ikonia> mnms_: right - so restore the image to the physical disk - boot into single user mode, break the mirror, change the grub and fstab config on the new machine, boot it, fix it
[13:56] <Palm_premium> apostagi: Just to make sure could you post the output of "cat /etc/fstab".
[13:56] <Palm_premium> apostagi: this is a fresh Ubuntu install?
[13:57] <mnms_> ikonia: but this way I will have fixed one disk system on second machine, right ?
[13:57] <mnms_> fixed I mean working and one disk I mean without raid..
[13:57] <ikonia> mnms_: I don't know what your problem is - so I don't know what you're fixing
[13:58] <ikonia> mnms_: yes, the raid would be in a degraded state
[13:58] <mnms_> ikonia: My goal is to have first machine working..
[13:58] <ikonia> mnms_: what is the first machines problem
[13:58] <ikonia> this maybe easier to solve this way
[13:58] <apostagi> Palm_premium: I typed this command and it worked. I could removed the LOST-DIR directory and the SD card has free space. THANK YOU!
[13:59] <Palm_premium> apostagi: Awesome
[13:59] <apostagi> I typed this command: sudo rm -rf /media/apostagi/9016-4EF8/LOST.DIR
[14:00] <Palm_premium> apostagi: I think it's stange it was mounted as read-only
[14:00] <k1l> apostagi: the filesystem puts lost and recovered data into that folder. so that card might have a damage.
[14:00] <mnms_> first problem was Diskfilter writes are not supported. So I edited grub config and set quick boot to 0 and grub update. After this I get initramfs console sometimes. So I changed again quick boot to 1 and exec update-grub.
[14:00] <Palm_premium> apostagi: Normally USB drives and the likes are mounted with read-write support, did something happen to your flash drive?
[14:01] <ikonia> mnms_: why would quickboot have an impact on diskfilter
[14:01] <mnms_> and till this time I didnt reboot cause Im afraid that it will not boot up. Thats why I reproduced env on second machine
[14:01] <ikonia> mnms_: you need to fix this - not clone it
[14:01] <ikonia> mnms_: just work through the problem on the broken server
[14:02] <mnms_> ikonia: I found solution to change quick boot to 0 so I did it
[14:02] <mnms_> on the internet
[14:02] <mnms_> so to be precise
[14:02] <mnms_> I didnt want to make apt-get upgrade
[14:04] <apostagi> It's strange for me as well... I use this SD card in my Samsung S3, but before I experianced that I can not copy files to my card from my smart phone because it says these files are read only... What's the problem? What do you think? Something with my SD card?
[14:05] <k1l> apostagi: yes. i guess its put into read-only due to issues with the sdcard hardwrae
[14:07] <apostagi> I try to format my sd card... after saving all the datas from it. :)
[14:07] <Palm_premium> apostagi: I don't think there is a problem with the card. A quick google shows that LOST.DIR is where android saves files that are found after an filesystem check, this can be done after a hard reset. By default these files will be read-only, why ubuntu mounted your SD-card read-only I don't know but it doesn't have to be related
[14:10] <mnms_> isi it normal that sda2 has the same uuid like sdb1
[14:10] <apostagi> hmm, I see. but I have this problem now: I try to copy pictures made by my smart phone to this SD card through Android, but it says these files can not be copied to my SD card...
[14:11] <genii> mnms_: No, unless you did something like dd one of those to the other
[14:11] <your> you should make ubuntu use UEFI instead of grub and isolinux
[14:11] <mnms_> genii: acha
[14:11] <mnms_> your: me ?
[14:11] <k1l> Palm_premium: linux (like ubuntu and android) mount read only in case of something goes wrong (like hardware failure). which is the most reason for automatic fsck, which is the reason why there are data in lost.dir. so it points all to a broken sd card
[14:12] <compdoc> doesnt ubuntu still use grub even when UEFI is enabled?
[14:12] <k1l> compdoc: yes
[14:13] <mnms_> genii: how to fix this ?
[14:14] <mnms_> Ok so I have to generate new uuid and update with tune2fs
[14:15] <Palm_premium> k1l: I don't know about android, but an FSCK can be triggered by almost anything, from shutting down incorrectly to just not having done an fsck in the past 6 months.
[14:15] <Palm_premium> k1l: does Ubuntu just check for the presence of the LOST.DIR when deciding to mount read-only?
[14:16] <k1l> Palm_premium: yes. but the result (ro mounting and stuff in lost dir) is the warning sign here
[14:16] <k1l> Palm_premium: no
[14:17] <genii> mnms_: Yes, make a new UUID for one of them, using the appropriate tool for whixchever filesystem is on there. Then if that one you changed is being mounted in the /etc/fstab make sure to also change it in there
[14:17] <jenenliu> hi, how can I set l2pt vpn on ubuntu ?
[14:18] <jenenliu> there is just pptp protocol
[14:26] <mnms_> guys those uuids in mdadm.conf are disk uuids yes ?
[14:27] <mnms_> those in mdadm.conf are separated with colons...
[14:31] <irregular> Hi guys I'm trying to install dislocker https://github.com/Aorimn/dislocker/blob/master/INSTALL.md#if-you-are-not-on-macosx but on the `make` step I get [ 87%] Built target dislocker\n Linking C executable dislocker-bek
[14:31] <irregular> libdislocker.so.0.6.1: undefined reference to `mbedtls_sha256'
[14:32] <irregular> though I did the part in the mbedTLS 2.0.0 section of the readme (also I am on ubuntu 14.04)
[14:32] <blut> !partman
[14:37] <X-Kent> Hi. How do I add "delete" button to nautilus ?
[14:38] <X-Kent> In 14.04 I could configure nautilus to show "Delete" button to bypass trash, now in 16.04 the whole options page is gone and I can't configure anything
[14:39] <BlankSpace> hi
[14:39] <BlankSpace> can anyone help me
[14:40] <BlankSpace> my ubuntu is not booting
[14:40] <BlankSpace> it shows
[14:40] <BlankSpace> kernel panic
[14:40] <BlankSpace> vfs unable to mount on unknown block
[14:40] <blut> Am I right in the assumption that the debian-installer mounts the system to /target, which means I can use the partman/early_command to use a custom script to partition and mount to target?
[14:41] <BlankSpace> sorry vfs unable to sync
[14:41] <BlankSpace> not able to mount fs on unknown block(0,0)
[14:41] <BlankSpace> something like this sort of msg pops up whenevr i try bootin up my ubuntu on my dual boot system
[14:41] <Jordan_U> BlankSpace: Can you successfully boot from an older kernel?
[14:41] <BlankSpace> i have got windows 7 as well
[14:42] <BlankSpace> Yes
[14:42] <BlankSpace> am using old kernel only now
[14:42]  * X-Kent found a solution for his question
[14:42] <blut> BlankSpace: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751574
[14:43] <rwsq1> I've got a server that lost power. It's got an intel fakeraid. The status is currently Verify. When I boot the server it says repeatedly "incrementally starting raid arrays" then complains about user root not found. I've found several pages that refer to this, but I think in this case the problem is it wants to verify the drives and won't build the array. If I boot off a usb stick I can assemble the array. How do I short circuit thi
[14:43] <rwsq1> s?
[14:43] <Jordan_U> BlankSpace: Please pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg and the output of "ls /boot/".
[14:44] <joelio> rwsq1: aren't those fakeraids some BIOS controlled thing, as opposed to an mdadm device... or is there some linux userspace tooling for them?
[14:44] <akik> X-Kent: care to share the solution?
[14:44] <PaulStuff> hi everyone
[14:44] <BlankSpace> where can i get /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:45] <blut> BlankSpace: it's in the name
[14:45] <rwsq1> joelio, they appear in the bios where I have the option to delete and create. In linux they appear like software raid
[14:45] <Jordan_U> irregular: Any reason you aren't just using libbde-utils from the default repositories?
[14:45] <joelio> rwsq1: as an md device?
[14:45] <tatertots> Hello everyone, on my 12.04 LTS precise system, when i check for updates i have a dialog box that says "not all updated can be installed" run a partial upgrade to install as many updates as possible. Update manager has checked "distribution updates" and "important security updates". It's important that this system remain 12.04 LTS and not be updated to 14.04 and i'm paranoid about letting it partially update
[14:45] <BlankSpace> i mean wher do i paste?
[14:45] <rwsq1> joelio, yes
[14:46] <tatertots> can i do this safely without it sneaking a new distribution of 14.04 LTS on my system?
[14:46] <tatertots> this "partial upgrade"
[14:46] <X-Kent> akik, dconf-editor (apt-get install dconf-tools) under org.gnome.nautils.preferences, set "delete" to true
[14:46] <Jordan_U> tatertots: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" but say "no" when asked if you want to actually install/remove the packages.
[14:46] <irregular> Jordan_U:I did not know I was even using that? I ran sudo apt-get install  gcc cmake make libfuse-dev libpolarssl-dev ruby-dev and continued with the readme
[14:47] <X-Kent> akik, the setting is still there, it's seems that the new nautilus just don't have the preferences GUI page.
[14:47] <irregular> Jordan_U:oh wait I read that wrong
[14:47] <irregular> Jordan_U:that can be used for decrypting my bitlocker encrypted harddrive?
[14:47] <BlankSpace> abi-3.13.0-32-generic         memtest86+.elf
[14:47] <BlankSpace> abi-3.13.0-86-generic         memtest86+_multiboot.bin
[14:47] <BlankSpace> abi-3.13.0-88-generic         System.map-3.13.0-32-generic
[14:47] <BlankSpace> config-3.13.0-32-generic      System.map-3.13.0-86-generic
[14:47] <BlankSpace> config-3.13.0-86-generic      System.map-3.13.0-88-generic
[14:47] <BlankSpace> config-3.13.0-88-generic      vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic
[14:47] <Jordan_U> irregular: It appears so. I've not used it personally.
[14:48] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | BlankSpace
[14:51] <ubuntu314> hello everyone
[14:52] <mintux> i want to compile php but i get this error: configure: error: Kerberos libraries not found.
[14:52] <tatertots> Jordan_U here is the output of running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  http://paste.ubuntu.com/18453586/
[14:52] <mintux> i run this: http://codepad.org/JtuSVY16
[14:53] <BlankSpace> jordan
[14:53] <ubuntu314> I have a quick question if I am making a bootable SD and have make a SD card on the same computer before where do i delte the mkdir boot/root I already made? when i try to mkdir boot/root on drive it says its already made but isnt where are these files?
[14:53] <BlankSpace> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18453529/
[14:53] <BlankSpace> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18453632/
[14:53] <BlankSpace> files which you asked for
[14:54] <Mitchell92> How does ubuntu work with bumblebee for nvidia optimus chipsets on laptops? Is everything running good?
[14:54] <BlankSpace> @Jordan_U
[14:55] <Jordan_U> BlankSpace: Somehow you don't have any initramfs for your newer kernels.
[14:56] <BlankSpace> whats that?
[14:56] <X-Kent> Mitchell92, on ubuntu 14.04 it didn't work well for me, I just installed nvidia drivers and never swapped back to intel. on 16.04 don't know, nvidia-only (as I run) works flawlessly
[14:56] <ubuntu314> I have a quick question if I am making a bootable SD and have make a SD card on the same computer before where do i delte the mkdir boot/root I already made? when i try to mkdir boot/root on drive it says its already made but isnt where are these files?
[14:57] <BlankSpace> then from where do i get it?
[14:57] <BlankSpace> newer kernel means it got updated from ubuntu 14.04 to newer version?
[14:57] <Jordan_U> BlankSpace: sudo update-initramfs -c -k all
[14:57] <tatertots> looks like it just want to put a new kernel and remove the old linux-generic
[14:57] <Mitchell92> X-Kent, This laptop stays at my desk 24/7 plugged into an external display... my bios doesn't provide me with options as far as graphics to make it nvidia-only... is that a software setting you were able to apply?
[14:57] <BlankSpace> you sure there is no like memory problem?
[14:57] <tatertots> I hope it doesn't break my software environment if i do this "partial upgrade"
[14:57] <BlankSpace> like i have partitioned hard disk into two
[14:57] <X-Kent> Mitchell92, the problem if I recall correctly is that you cannot use the property(Good) driver when using bumbelee. You have to use "open source" driver and its sux
[14:58] <BlankSpace> may be less memory for ubuntu?
[14:58] <tatertots> i'm kinda paranoid about it though
[14:58] <tatertots> i'm scared
[14:58] <BlankSpace> ok i'ltry that command
[14:58] <Mitchell92> X-Kent, in the end I'd be satisfied switching it to just nvidia... all the time... although i dont know if i could set such
[14:58] <X-Kent> Mitchell92, my laptop is about the exactly same situation (alienware 17). I have an option to switch to nvidia in windows.
[14:59] <Mitchell92> yeah, but what about in linux?
[14:59] <Mitchell92> how would that be handled?
[14:59] <X-Kent> Mitchell92, I once switched it to nvidia card using windows and never switched it back. Now I just install the nvidia driver and just "forget" about my optimus/intel
[15:00] <BlankSpace> Jordan_U
[15:00] <tatertots> i friggin swear if this "partial upgrade" breaks my vmware environment i'm gonna poop bricks
[15:00] <Jordan_U> BlankSpace: The initramfs is a file that needs to be created for your specific machine to go along with each new kernel. It's supposed to be generated automatically.
[15:00] <BlankSpace> its not generating anything
[15:00] <ubuntu314> someone please
[15:00] <BlankSpace> i typed that thing in terminal
[15:00] <BlankSpace> sudo update-initramfs -c -k all
[15:00] <BlankSpace> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-32-generic
[15:00] <BlankSpace> but then it quit
[15:00] <ubuntu314> i cannot make my SD card because it says i already has the boot and root folders
[15:00] <X-Kent> Mitchell92, boot the ubuntu live usb, if it sees your nvidia then it's OK and you don't really need to switch anything. After installation just install nvidia propietry driver
[15:00] <ubuntu314> but it doesnt
[15:00] <BlankSpace> it didnt generate anything
[15:00] <KeyboardNotFound> Can I install package which was available in 14.04 but not anymore ?
[15:01] <Mitchell92> okay, X-Kent i was hoping to just remove my windows install and install linux, only games i run are EQ2 and WoW... although it looks like I'll need windows there in the event something gets funky to switch it back to just nvidia?
[15:01] <BlankSpace> then it started showing again username@username:
[15:01] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: dont mix ubuntu releases. which package are you talking about?
[15:01] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l, mp3gain
[15:02] <Jordan_U> ubuntu314: What is the exact mkdir command you ran? What command did you run to check for the existance of the directory?
[15:02] <BlankSpace> Jordan_U
[15:02] <X-Kent> Mitchell92, I think if you install the "propietry" drivers from "additional drivers" section it will disable bumblee and you will always be on nvidia card without switching back to intel
[15:02] <BlankSpace> what do i do now?
[15:02] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: that project is dead since 2009. i guess you need to find a new program
[15:02] <X-Kent> Mitchell92, and it seems that what you want
[15:02] <Mitchell92> yes, it does.... thanks.
[15:02] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l, no way, I have to use that software
[15:03] <tatertots> I'm going to do it...i'm doing to do this "partial upgrade"....yall cross your fingers for me
[15:03] <ubuntu314> sudo mkdir root and sudo mkdir boot and it says they are alread made which they are not but i previously made a bootable SD card yesterday and they worked but today its says there already there and they are not
[15:03] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: i guess it was dropped due to beeing an old program and having depencies that cant be fullfilled anymore.
[15:03] <tatertots> then i'm going to reboot and test my vmware environment ....if it breaks i'll need an old priest and a young priest
[15:04] <X-Kent> Mitchell92, I have dual boot (play other games that are not supported) but I don't remeber when I last time had to deal with that optimus switching so it doesn't switches back and forth on it's own
[15:04] <tatertots> you guys aren't going to talk me out of it?
[15:04] <Mitchell92> ok
[15:04] <X-Kent> Mitchell92, wow supported on Linux nowdays ?
[15:05] <BlankSpace> !Jordan_U
[15:05] <Jordan_U> ubuntu314: Please re-read my comment and provide everything I asked for. If there is anything you don't understand, please ask for clarification.
[15:05] <Mitchell92> X-Kent, PlayOnLinux / WINE
[15:05] <tatertots> I did it
[15:05] <tatertots> i pushed the button
[15:06] <tatertots> i'm nervous...and sweating
[15:06] <X-Kent> Mitchell92, ah, that never works well for me.
[15:06] <BlankSpace> any solution to my problem?
[15:06] <SchrodingersScat> tatertots: i like that exorcism joke, I've used it myself a bunch :D
[15:06]  * X-Kent afk
[15:06] <Mitchell92> i'm off to reboot
[15:06] <SchrodingersScat> tatertots: you mean dist-upgrade? those are normally safe, you should be taking regular backups anyway though.
[15:06] <tatertots> oh my gawd the hard drive is thrashing...i don't like this at all
[15:07] <ubuntu314> Jordan_U: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdX1 then mkdir boot but it says file alread exist
[15:07] <tatertots> it's doing something
[15:07] <SchrodingersScat> tatertots: it's happening
[15:07] <tatertots> OMG now it says "remove obsolete packages?"
[15:08] <tatertots> what if my vmware needs those obsolete packages?
[15:08] <tatertots> i'm scared
[15:08] <tatertots> omg and there's 32 of them...thirty-two
[15:08] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: it was removed from debian because of "ROM; dead upstream, probably insecure" and so it was removed from ubuntu, too
[15:08] <ubuntu314> Jordan_U: I think installing umbuntu again is agressive when i just need to format a SD somewhere i heard that if you previously made a SD card on a linux computer it saves the settings and doesnt let you make them again till you delete them
[15:09] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=761847
[15:09] <Powerless> let me ask a dumb question: I am using ubuntu gnome..it is still a ubuntu right? i can install all programs like if it was a ubuntu right?
[15:09] <mmaheu_> \LUSERS
[15:09] <tatertots> It gives me the option of keeping the obsolete packages though...that kinda makes me feel a little better
[15:09] <niranjan> Greetings, while upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04, my installation is completely screwed up. Somewhere during the installation window manager crashed and now machine does not boot up. I don't get start up menu to select OS. It just jumps to initial ubuntu loading screen with 5 circles and then nothing happens
[15:10] <tatertots> but i'm still scared
[15:10] <niranjan> No UI, terminal or otherwise. Is there any hope for the machine?
[15:10] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l, is there way to install it?
[15:11] <tatertots> i'm going to remove them..since they are obsolete and all
[15:11] <tatertots> why did i quit smoking cigarettes?
[15:11] <SchrodingersScat> Powerless: Yep, should be.  Should be able to install as much as you want from the repos.
[15:11] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: no
[15:11] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l, why can't I add repositories from Ubuntu 14.04 and install it from it ?
[15:11] <ubuntu314> Jordan_U:  ?
[15:11] <k1l> Powerless: if its an official flavor (like ubuntu gnome is) then yes
[15:12] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: because that will make a mess. you are trying  to install a program from 2009 which needs all libraries and stuff to be at the 2009 state which is ridicolous in 2016
[15:12] <tatertots> you guys aren't going to talk me into keeping these obsolete package?
[15:13] <Powerless> thanks folks
[15:13] <tatertots> just need one person to throw some doubt about removing them
[15:13] <SchrodingersScat> tatertots: you're doing an upgrade to 16.04? you likely just don't need them then.
[15:13] <HackerII> tatertots:  sudo halt should stop the process
[15:13] <Jordan_U> ubuntu314: I asked what command you are using to check the existance of the directory. It sounds like you're just not in the correct directory when you run mkdir, since you're using a relative path.
[15:13] <Jordan_U> tatertots: Don't run that!
[15:13] <HackerII> he knows
[15:14] <tatertots> someone tell me it's going to be okay
[15:14] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: did you read the link i posted you? it tells you why that package was removed. bevause its old, unmaintained and possibly insecure. it even names an alternative
[15:15] <ubuntu314> Jordan_U: the settings are saved on the computer from the previous build so it thinks the files are already made when i do 'mv root/boot/* boot' it tells me there is no boot
[15:15] <tatertots> i did it
[15:15] <tatertots> i pushed the button
[15:15] <tatertots> i'm removing obsolete packages
[15:15] <Jordan_U> ubuntu314: Do you k ow the difference between a relative path and an absolute one?
[15:15] <tatertots> i can hear the hard drive again
[15:15] <tatertots> omg
[15:16] <tatertots> it wants me to reboot
[15:16] <ubuntu314> Jordan_U: and when i look in the partitions they are not in there. i do not know the difference between the relative path and a absolute
[15:16] <tatertots> what have i done?
[15:17] <tatertots> i'm going to bring down my vm's and reboot
[15:17] <tatertots> the moment of truth
[15:17] <SchrodingersScat> KeyboardNotFound: mixing repositories is a bad idea.  Are you sure you can't use ffmpeg for this? what did mp3gain do?  also I see a program that claims to be a gui for mp3gain, not sure how one can be around without the other >_>
[15:18] <tatertots> if it breaks i'll just have to fix it ...i've done it before when i was on 10.04 lts...not really looking forward to it but i guess it wouldn't be the end of the world
[15:18] <k1l> SchrodingersScat: that gui program was removed later, but after the freeze for the ubuntu release.
[15:19] <tatertots> i need a hug
[15:19] <tatertots> hold me
[15:19] <tatertots> here goes
[15:19] <tatertots> i'm going to push the button to reboot
[15:19] <ubuntu314> Jordan_U: is there a command to make force make the directories?
[15:20] <BlankSpace> JOrdan
[15:20] <BlankSpace> how do i generate initramfs
[15:20] <ubuntu314> rmdir boot maybe!
[15:20] <ubuntu314> 1 sec
[15:21] <tatertots> my fear is when vmware goes to compile the kernel modules against this new kernel it will fail....is there a priest in the house?
[15:21] <whlai> hey everyone. can anyone point out a best practices guide for creating a Windows/Ubuntu dual boot machine?
[15:22] <tatertots> i'm doing it
[15:22] <blut> ubuntu314: mkdir -p
[15:22] <ubuntu314> blut: mkdir -p boot?
[15:23] <blut> ubuntu314: will make the directory boot
[15:23] <k1l> whlai: install windows first. then install ubuntu. you can make the partition setup before or repartitioning after the windows install. be aware you can only have 4 primary partitions
[15:23] <Jordan_U> ubuntu314: First of all, your theory about "rmembering configurations" is completely wrong.
[15:23] <k1l> !dualboot | whlai
[15:23] <blut> ubuntu314: and no error if it exists
[15:23] <tatertots> wish me luck guys
[15:23] <tatertots> brb
[15:23] <ubuntu314> 1 sec let me try to build the SD again
[15:23] <ubuntu314> ill give exact error
[15:23] <whlai> thanks ubottu!
[15:24] <Jordan_U> ubuntu314: An absolute path is a pth that starts with '/', like /home/jordan/Documents/foo.txt. A relative path is a path that does not start with '/', like 'Documents/foo.txt'.
[15:25] <mnms_> How should I make backup for my raid. SHould I create image of md devices or each devs ?
[15:25] <blut> ubuntu314: but maybe I misunderstood your question. Can you reword?
[15:25] <mnms_> I mean should I make images of raid partitions or image of each device in raid ?
[15:26] <Jordan_U> ubuntu314: With an absolute path you can tell just from the path exactly what file is being referred to. With a relative path you need to know what your current directory is, because the path is relative to the current directory. You can print your current directory by running "pwd".
[15:27] <ubuntu314> blut: im making a SD card with 2 partions 1 boot and 1 root and it tells me i cant mkdir boot or root but 1 second im trying again to give exact error
[15:27] <ubuntu314> Jordan_U: i understand the difference now
[15:28] <Jordan_U> ubuntu314: So if my current working directory is "/home/jordan/" then the relative path "Documents/foo.txt" is equivalent to the absolute path "/home/jordan/Documents/foo.txt". If however my current working directory is "/etc/" then the relative path "Documents/txt" is equivalent to "/etc/Documents/foo.txt" (which is probably not a path to a file that actually exists).
[15:29] <tatertots> i'm back...the system rebooted...looks okay..now to check mission crit software...and that my atsc tuner and media center functions still work
[15:31] <Jordan_U> ubuntu314: If you open a new terminal the default current working directory is "/home/username/" where "username" is your username. So you have probably been creating files below the directory /home/you/, and your SD card is probably mounted to /media/you/some_name/, which means that your mkdir commands haven't affected the SD card at all.
[15:31] <ubuntu314> Jordan_U: I just used rmdir boot and then mkdir boot and it seemed to work
[15:32] <ubuntu314> lets try with root
[15:32] <Jordan_U> ubuntu314: What is the output of "pwd"?
[15:32] <BlankSpace> jordan
[15:34] <Jordan_U> BlankSpace: Please be patient.
[15:34] <tatertots> my mission critical software needed kernel headers generic..installing those now...almost gave me a heart attach
[15:34] <BlankSpace> you'l give me solution?
[15:35] <k1l> tatertots: less drama, more technical details please
[15:37] <ubuntu314> Jordan_U: output of pwd?
[15:37] <tatertots> my software couldn't automatically find the kernel headers 3.2.0-105-generic and wants me to provide the path....what's the path?
[15:37] <tatertots> there was no drama there kil...i just need to find the path
[15:37] <Jordan_U> ubuntu314: Run "pwd" in a terminal. Tell me what "pwd" prints to the screen.
[15:38] <tatertots> how do i find this path/location of my kernel headers
[15:38] <k1l> tatertots: we focus on actual technical issues and details and not focus on commentary. kernel 3.2 sounds like its a very old ubuntu release? which is it?
[15:38] <ubuntu314> Jordan_U: im syncing files now 1 second
[15:39] <tatertots> 12.04 LTS
[15:39] <k1l> tatertots: make sure "linux-generic" is installed
[15:40] <tatertots> thanks kil
[15:41] <Jordan_U> BlankSpace: What is the output of "sudo update-initramfs -c -k 3.13.0-88-generic" ?
[15:42] <ubuntu314> Jordan_U: the drive booted right up! thanks for making me think everything is working out i can believe i was concidering reinstalling umbuntu to format a drive
[15:43] <ubuntu314> well now to tackle another beast Arch SD my headach continues
[15:43] <ubuntu314> thanks guys thanks bunt
[15:43] <ubuntu314> thanks jordan
[15:43] <Jordan_U> ubuntu314: You're welcome.
[15:44] <blut> ubuntu314: you know that arch has amazing guides?
[15:45] <wiehan> my firefox crashes constantly and is very slow. Chrome works fine. Running gnome on 16.04. Any advice? Need firefox for webdevelopment
[15:46] <eelstrebor> is there a way to run the samsung magician software under ubuntu? they have windows and mac versions available but not for linux. doesn't work from within virtualbox
[15:48] <MoPac> Hello. I'm having quite a hard time booting into a new (re-)install with my root being an lvm volume in a LUKS container. Right now on boot, it's erroring out looking for the vg before it's attempted use cryptsetup.
[15:48] <ravi> hi, I want to use my old PC which doesn't have hard drive. So I choose to use xubuntu live cd (since it is low configuration PC).
[15:48] <ravi> Can I install vlc in my live usb so that I could use it in that pc?
[15:49] <Jordan_U> eelstrebor: What does "samsung magician" do?
[15:50] <ravi> The old PC doesn't have a way to use internet.
[15:50] <wiehan> ravi, maybe from a flashdrive with the option selected that you partition/allow some space for user files
[15:50] <ravi> @wiehan, OK... then?
[15:50] <wiehan> ravi, maybe not vlc, unless you download the dvd iso
[15:50] <wiehan> ravi, and write that to the flash with DiskImage writer or similar and make it bootable
[15:51] <eelstrebor> Jordan_U, it's suppose to restore performance, install new firmware, etc
[15:51] <ravi> @wiehan, sorry i didn't get you
[15:51] <eelstrebor> Jordan_U, it's for a samsung SSD
[15:52] <ravi> do i need to write the xubuntu os / vlc ?
[15:52] <wiehan> eelstrebor, I have a samsung ssd, why do you need this software. I can take a pretty good guess that any software like that won't work under linux
[15:52] <akretep> hye
[15:52] <DJones> !persistant | ravi This may be of use to add apps to a live usb
[15:53] <DJones> ravi: See the last link
[15:53] <Jordan_U> eelstrebor: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2nrwu9/updating_samsung_evo_840_ssd_firmware_from_linux/ looks like they make at least the firmware updating capability available for linux (primarily for server use, so cli only).
[15:53] <ravi> ubottu, DJones thank you, i will check
[15:53] <akretep> quit
[15:53] <akretep> exit
[15:53] <wiehan> ravi you can write the xubuntu or lubuntu iso to a flash, not sure if they have "DVD" (larger) release isos with more software prepackaged so you don't have to download them later, especially if you don't have internet on that pc
[15:54] <Jordan_U> eelstrebor: As for trim; I'm pretty sure that Ubuntu has been automticlly TRIMing SSDs for many releases.
[15:55] <sector_0> anyone know of any wifi cards that work with ubuntu?
[15:56] <Jordan_U> !hcl | sector_0
[15:56] <wiehan> My firefox crashes constantly and can't load web pages, need help man
[15:57] <Jordan_U> sector_0: But as a quick rule of thumb, any *internal* wireless card (not USB) with an Intel or Atheros chipset should work quite well.
[15:59] <ducasse> eelstrebor: the firmware updater for linux is only available for other drives, mostly enterprise models. for the 850 series you need windows and magician, unfortunately.
[16:01] <wiehan> what does the following mean?:   poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=5, events=POLLIN}, {fd=26, events=POLLIN}, {fd=27, events=POLLIN}], 5, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
[16:01] <wiehan>  
[16:02] <eelstrebor> ducasse, yeah. i just tried the enterprise version of magician that runs under linux but it couldn't find the drive
[16:03] <eelstrebor> ducasse, there's probably a way to boot windows from a usb drive and run it from there but i haven't tried doing that in years
[16:04] <ducasse> eelstrebor: you might be able to get it to run from the xp pe that is on some bootdisks, but there is no way to do it from linux, unfortunately. i have two 850 evos myself.
[16:04] <wiehan> ducasse, eelstrebor do these updates really make a significant difference for non-enterprise use?
[16:05] <jwash> Hi everyone I'm on 16.04, where do I select to make this change permanent. I want to add another screen per the nvidia program request. http://www.imagebam.com/image/422123493321893
[16:05] <ducasse> wiehan: some firmware bugs are fixed etc.
[16:06] <Jordan_U> wiehan: In the paste there have been Samsung SSD firmware bugs in TRIM support that led to data loss. I would strongly recommend having the lastest SSD firmware.
[16:06] <wiehan> will come back some other time for my phantom firefox issues
[16:06] <ducasse> wiehan: as to 'significant difference', i don't know, but in general it's a good idea to fix bugs in storage devices.
[16:06] <wiehan> ducasse, Jordan_U I see, I like to live dangerously then
[16:07] <Jordan_U> wiehan: You have good backups though, right?
[16:07] <wiehan> Jordan_U, run minimal stuff on my local drive, despite tons of storage. Essential files goes to the cloud *man*
[16:08] <eelstrebor> wiehan, i've heard that over time the ssd's performance will degrade - i've been using fstrim at boot up and modified fstab to minimize the number of writes but i've heard that may not be adequate
[16:08] <wiehan> eelstrebor, I know.. just too much effort. I simply want to use firefox today
[16:10] <Jordan_U> eelstrebor: fstrim should be sufficient. I'm not sure what else you would do. (I'm pretty sure that's all that Samsung's "performance restoration" does).
[16:14] <de-facto> eelstrebor if you use ext4 you can add "discard" to the mount options in /etc/fstab
[16:15] <de-facto> something like "UUID=<THE UUID>	/ ext4 discard,errors=remount-ro 0 1"
[16:15] <tortib> I'm using libvirt with the manager and trying to setup a VM with kvm, the emulator it's using is kvm-spice and windows is loading really slowly.  Anyone know how I can resolve the slowness?
[16:16] <ducasse> tortib: use virtio for storage and network.
[16:16] <tortib> ducasse, I don't think that's it?
[16:17] <ducasse> tortib: it speeds up disk access a lot.
[16:17] <tortib> ducasse, okay i selected virtio and it's still not loading the setup quickly, I'm using all 8 CPUS
[16:18] <ducasse> tortib: you need to install the virtio drivers in windows for it to work, there are instructions on the kvm site.
[16:18] <tortib> ducasse, windows setup is NOT Loading quickly
[16:20] <tortib> ducasse, since you suggested virtio i've been trying to get into windows setup
[16:21] <ducasse> tortib: i know, it's incredibly slow unless you use virtio and install the drivers. http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/WindowsGuestDrivers/Download_Drivers
[16:21] <tortib> ducasse, I CANT install the drivers YET!  The windows setup is very slow!
[16:22] <anddam> hi, while using aarch64 cross-compilers on x86_64 is there a way to set the "default" one by mean of the alternatives feature? my rationale is that I'm installing gcc-4.9-aarch64-linux-gnu that provides /usr/bin/aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc-4.9 whereas the default make script for android calls $ARCH-gcc, but /usr/bin/aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc is only provided by gcc-aarch64-linux-gnu that is actually 5.3
[16:23] <ducasse> tortib: the best thing to do is to install the drivers during installation, but the process is really slow until you get to that point.
[16:23] <anddam> I'd like to have the "generic" /usr/bin/aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc provided by gcc-4.9, is this something supported at all?
[16:23] <tortib> ducasse, i've had this setup run for 20min and it doesn't go into setup
[16:23] <anddam> I've seen a symlink recommended on how-tos, but that doesn't seem the right approach
[16:23] <pletin12> Do you guys know any sound equalizer?
[16:25] <Aegrus> Hello
[16:26] <niranjan> Greetings folks, I need help. My installation got broken while upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04. I can select boot menu from grub now using keyboard. After that keyboard/mouse completely stops working. Don't have network either to get remotely into the box
[16:26] <eelstrebor> de-facto, already done : UUID=75657850-cb3b-4876-8294-8aa56b648707 /               ext4    discard,noatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[16:27] <niranjan> Is there anything I can do
[16:27] <Cursarion> yo, what can I do if the system doesn't properly recognize my display?
[16:28] <Cursarion> system as in ubuntu
[16:34] <MoPac> My root directory is an lvm volume in a vg in aLUKS container. How do I get the boot process to use cryptsetup on the container *before* looking for the vg and erroring out because it can't find it?
[16:34] <incandenza> hi, on ubuntu 14.04, my laptop screen goes blank randomly.  monitor is still on, but it's blank.  if i suspend and resume it comes back on.  sounds like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1047081 ... any advice, what logs should i be looking at?
[16:35] <incandenza> i tried looking as syslogs right after it happens, but nothing there looks relevant
[16:37] <incandenza> it doesn't look as simple as some kind of a screensaver timeout
[16:38] <incandenza> frequency is unpredictable, i'll be in the middle of actively using the computer
[16:44] <ubuntu-mate> ubuntu or mate
[16:44] <ubuntu-mate> which one you prefer?
[16:45] <tortib> gnome3 classic
[16:45] <tgm4883> !ot
[17:04] <nullbitt> anyone have any advice for getting an ubuntu live iso to start with a new nvidia card, i always die after i hit enter to boot install or live, with nouvea unknown chipset, googling shows people with same issue, but no work around for live or fresh install
[17:04] <nullbitt> seems to be recent to, posts showing as recent as june 2016
[17:06] <BluesKaj> nullbitt,  must be a new model nvidia
[17:09] <nullbitt> BluesKaj, it is.
[17:09] <nullbitt> a 1080 gtx, is there any workaround?
[17:09] <nullbitt> i just need a live cd to boot into a command line so i can mount a filesystem
[17:09] <nullbitt> i dont need a gui
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> nullbitt  a live cd is a gui
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> nullbitt  that's the idea and purpose of a live ce
[17:10] <cncr04s> I could never gat any ubuntu to recognize my nvidia cards, so your out of luck
[17:11] <BluesKaj> my nvidia card is recognized , never had it not recognize them
[17:11] <tgm4883> Never had an issue with my nvidia cards either
[17:12] <nullbitt> hrm.. lovely.
[17:12] <haasn> What should I do when the ubuntu full livecd results in a black screen on my machine? The netinstall / server install (text-mode) liveCDs work fine, it's just that when the full liveCD decides to switch into graphical mode that it stops working
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> nullbitt  what you need, is a rescue cd
[17:12] <haasn> Or something along those lines
[17:12] <nullbitt> monkeydust, got a link?
[17:13] <tgm4883> nullbitt: so if I'm understanding this correctly, you need to install ubuntu still right? You don't have an installation currently?
[17:13] <nullbitt> dont need to install
[17:13] <tgm4883> nullbitt: it's already installed?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> nouveau id the default driver for nvidia and the recommended driver is in the repos , but check the nvidia website for correct driver number fopr the 1080, nullbitt then install it from the repos
[17:13] <BluesKaj> id=is
[17:13] <tgm4883> nullbitt: So you just need to get to the command line?
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> nullbitt  http://ultilex.linux-bg.org/
[17:15] <tgm4883> if he's just trying to get to a command line I don't see why he doesn't just go into recovery mode in grub
[17:16] <adrian_1908> hello. When playing video (via mpv), my system doesn't go to sleep/logout. When playing audio (audacious) it does. Is there a "canonical" ;) way to ensure that certain programs keep the system alive?
[17:18] <livraria> hi@
[17:18] <ur_> some tool to flash samsung galaxy tab 10.1 from ubuntu?
[17:19] <haasn> Ugh, I've been trying (and failing) to install ubuntu 16.04 on this host for over a week now. I'm almost out of ideas >_>
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> !phone | ur_
[17:19] <MichaelJackson> Hey
[17:20] <livraria_> Hi
[17:20] <tgm4883> haasn: What happens when it boots after install?
[17:20] <nullbitt> MonkeyDust: the recovery dist will mount ntfs?
[17:20] <akik> haasn: isn't nomodeset a solution for that?
[17:20] <tgm4883> nullbitt: why are you trying to mount ntfs in a recovery session?
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> nullbitt  i used it to save a friend's windows system
[17:20] <nullbitt> akik: i tried that, i'd hit e and enter the nomodeset line and it would error
[17:21] <nullbitt> maybe i was entering it wrong.
[17:21] <nullbitt> tgm4883: need to mount an ntfs partititon and fix it.
[17:21] <nullbitt> partition/
[17:21] <akik> nullbitt: you add it to the kernel line
[17:21] <nullbitt> akik: i hit e at the grub select right?
[17:22] <akik> nullbitt: sure
[17:22] <nullbitt> maybe i was entering on the wrong part of the line
[17:22] <nullbitt> i saw 3 lines.
[17:22] <ioria> nullbitt, which video card ?
[17:23] <akik> nullbitt: the line with linux and root=
[17:23] <nullbitt> i keep seeing this "nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0"
[17:23] <nullbitt> hrm. ok
[17:23] <nullbitt> so add it to the end of the line
[17:24] <nullbitt> sound right?
[17:27] <nokT> guys, a question, I've got 3 computers, each one with drive A, B, C, respectively...
[17:28] <nokT> I need to copy files from A and B, to C. Won't I have issues with permissions and such?
[17:28] <acetakwas> How can I get the IMEI of a ZTE modem?
[17:28] <acetakwas> On my Ubuntu terminal.
[17:29] <tgm4883> nokT: not sure I understand the question. How are you copying them?
[17:29] <velusuniverse> hello all, i have  vps on ubuntu, and i currently have apache and php on the server, if i want to send emails through smtp would i need to install something like postfix, even if im using an external smtp server ?>
[17:29] <nokT> drag and dropping basically
[17:32] <tgm4883> nokT: what kind of files are these? user files?
[17:32] <nokT> yes
[17:32] <tgm4883> nokT: are all 3 systems running ubuntu?
[17:32] <nokT> 2 of them
[17:33] <nokT> but I've seen some resctrictions on a few files (from the ubuntu drive)
[17:33] <tgm4883> nokT: yea you'll probably have to fix some permissions
[17:33] <tgm4883> which 2 run ubuntu? and what is the 3rd system?
[17:33] <nokT> third is Windoze but I don't remember having any issues, I could check if that'd help
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> nokT  ntfs does not recognize ext permissions
[17:35] <nokT> MonkeyDust, I copied from ntfs to ext4
[17:35] <nokT> but my issues are with the ext4 drive
[17:36] <tgm4883> nokT: so once the files are copied to the ext drive, you should just chown them
[17:36] <nokT> from a different Ubuntu system
[17:36] <nokT> I see
[17:37] <anddam> acetakwas: are you looking for some AT commands?
[17:38] <acetakwas> anddam::  What's an AT command?
[17:38] <sanae-inouu>  bjµjhbh
[17:38] <acetakwas> I need to know the IMEI of my ZTE modem
[17:38] <sanae-inouu> its HIKJU
[17:39] <sanae-inouu> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
[17:39] <anddam> is the headless installer the "ubuntu server" one?
[17:39] <DJones> sanae-inouu: This is ubutu support, if you need to test your keyboard please use ##test and not here
[17:40] <sanae-inouu> pssssststtt
[17:40] <Lehnux> Hello
[17:40] <sanae-inouu> hui
[17:40] <sanae-inouu> hi
[17:41] <sanae-inouu> can someone explane how to dowload adobe flash player
[17:41] <anddam> sanae-inouu: no, it's 2016 get over it
[17:41] <tgm4883> !flash | sanae-inouu
[17:41] <tgm4883> anddam: not helpful :(
[17:41] <sanae-inouu> fy! anddam
[17:42] <SchrodingersScat> anddam: yes, that sounds right.
[17:42] <Lehnux> sudo apt-get install adobe-flash something like that ?
[17:42] <sanae-inouu> yhea
[17:42] <SchrodingersScat> !info flashplugin-installer
[17:43] <Lehnux> Don't know if it's still in the repos
[17:43] <sanae-inouu> owh okiii
[17:43] <Lehnux> Not the latest version ?
[17:43] <freecoder_> Lehnux: if you are using chromium, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Partner-Flash
[17:44] <freecoder_> it is an official package
[17:44] <sanae-inouu> i dont know just leave it  anywayy thxx
[17:44] <tgm4883> Lehnux: Adobe doesn't make flash for linux anymore
[17:44] <sanae-inouu> owh oke then
[17:44] <Lehnux> I got best results with HTML5 players anyway
[17:45] <tgm4883> Lehnux: well yea, but not everything supports HTML5
[17:45] <Lehnux> I didn't use flash in a while
[17:45] <Lehnux> It's why it's still there
[17:45] <Lehnux> Like Java 6
[17:45] <Lehnux> F*cking KVM web interface
[17:45] <freecoder_> Lehnux: actually it works for firefox too (adobe-flashplugin)
[17:46] <Lehnux> It's me or it's not the same plugin for Firefox ?
[17:46] <PaulStuff> hi guys do you read me? I'm new to irssi and I don't know if I'm doing this right. Sorry to bother you with this.
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> PaulStuff  hit your keys harder, so we can read you better
[17:46] <BluesKaj> PaulStuff,  you're here
[17:47] <SchrodingersScat> !test | PaulStuff
[17:47] <PaulStuff> Thanks, sorry to bother you with such stupid question.
[17:47] <Pedrux> hey
[17:47] <compdoc> I started using virt-manager years ago and never looked back
[17:47] <Pedrux> how i enable hiragana and Katakana on ubuntu?
[17:47] <tortib> compdoc, have you got the usb devices to work in your kvm?
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> Pedrux  is that a game?
[17:48] <PaulStuff> Can I ask you one more question guys?
[17:48] <tortib> I'm having problems with that, i added two usb devices and the USB redirect with spice and it's still not showing up in the guest os
[17:48] <compdoc> tortib, pass-thru? I dont use that
[17:48] <tortib> compdoc, how do you do it?
[17:48] <Fiona75> I'm not hearing any sound for my lubuntu 16.04. Already tried alsamix
[17:49] <tgm4883> !help | PaulStuff
[17:50] <tortib> compdoc, how do you get USB devices to work in the guest OS?
[17:50] <Lehnux> Anyone got a way to install Java 6 in ubuntu minimal ?
[17:51] <PaulStuff> Quick question then: why is it that on some channels there's no discussion/exchange whatsoever (in contrast to here) and people just ignore fellows that -like me- ask politely? Is there some 'chat rules' that I'm not aware of in these channels? Thanks again, I realise this is not about ubuntu, but this channel seems very nice in that aspect so I thought I should ask here.
[17:51] <compdoc> tortib, I run mainly servers and dont use usb devices in the guests. There are always other ways of getting files to a guest. like samba
[17:51] <tgm4883> PaulStuff: you weren't ignored
[17:51] <tgm4883> PaulStuff: also, this isn't a chat channel
[17:52] <tortib> compdoc, trying to get actual devices to work
[17:52] <Myrtti> PaulStuff: often you just ask your question, politeness is often bypassed for a quick fix and getting to the point quick
[17:52] <tortib> not just for files
[17:52] <tgm4883> PaulStuff: there are chat channels, #ubuntu-discuss and #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:52] <Myrtti> PaulStuff: channels often have their own lifecycle during the day, too
[17:52] <PaulStuff> tmg4883 thanks for the info, I'm learning here
[17:53] <PaulStuff> thanks Myrtti also
[17:53] <compdoc> tortib, your hardware has to be right, and the bios on the latest update for it all to work
[17:53] <SchrodingersScat> Lehnux: why do you need an old version?
[17:54] <compdoc> if your hardware is capable
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> PaulStuff  it also may depend on the timezone you're in
[17:54] <PaulStuff> tmg4883 So if I go into a channel and get no aswer, that's not odd, is that right?
[17:54] <PaulStuff> MonkeyDust yeah I'm in south america that might be it
[17:55] <tgm4883> PaulStuff: as others have mentioned, depends on a lot of things. Timezone you are in, timezone most of the channel is in, whether anyone knows the answer to your question
[17:55] <Lehnux> Because the web interface of the KVM server i'm using is made of Java 6
[17:55] <SchrodingersScat> PaulStuff: if anyone knows the answer then they'll likely answer.  Silence would imply that no one has an answer or guidance toward an answer.
[17:55] <tgm4883> PaulStuff: being in south america, you should have good times to be in this channel
[17:56] <CookieM> there’s open-java version 6 in ubuntu repos, called ‘iced tea’
[17:56] <Lehnux> I'm in Switzerland and times zones are Okay i just need to wait a few hours sometimes and I think it's fine
[17:56] <PaulStuff> SchrodingersScat & tmg4883: so basically I should not expect answers to "Hello everyone" and "I've a question...", etc.? is that correct?
[17:56] <tgm4883> PaulStuff: correct, you should just ask your question
[17:56] <Lehnux> Iced tea how did you found the package name ?
[17:56] <tgm4883> PaulStuff: also, you should use tab complete
[17:57] <tgm4883> !tab
[17:57] <PaulStuff> tgm4883: great, I just did!
[17:57] <PaulStuff> ubottu: thanks!
[17:57] <SchrodingersScat> PaulStuff: especially if "I've a question" doesn't contain details about the problem, what you've tried, what you expected, any logs that are applicable in a pastebin, etc.
[17:58] <PaulStuff> SchrodingersScat: oh no, I can be specific it's just that I didn't want to come accross as unpolite.
[17:58] <PaulStuff> !tab
[17:59] <PaulStuff> Ok then, thanks a lot SchrodingersScat, tgm4883 and Myrtti !
[18:00] <SchrodingersScat> PaulStuff: welcome, have fun
[18:05] <Shadowbird123> does amd closed drivers work better for latest games, then fglrx? i have [AMD/ATI] Cayman XT [Radeon HD 6970]
[18:06] <chrisan> I'm not sure what to call this/google for.. but I am trying out 16.04 on a new VPS and I noticed when I restart a service, like nginx, there is no longer any output.  Is there a way to add this back?
[18:06] <Shadowbird123> just installed ark: survival evolved and grapics are not very impressive with fglrx
[18:10] <tortib> how can I get USB devices working in a kvm?
[18:10] <tortib> I added the device and it's still not showing up in the guest os
[18:19] <velusuniverse> hello all, i have  vps on ubuntu, and i currently have apache and php on the server, if i want to send emails through smtp would i need to install something like postfix, even if im using an external smtp server ?
[18:20] <sergioad> Hello there
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> velusuniverse  sounds more for #ubuntu-server
[18:20] <ph88> i have packages  postgresql and postgresql-9.5  on ubuntu 16.04  .. which one should i install ?
[18:21] <genii> !info postgresql xenial
[18:21] <genii> ph88: The unversioned one
[18:21] <ph88> oki thx
[18:21] <sergioad> friends a little question
[18:22] <sergioad> could an XBOX one elite controller work on Ubuntu? or do you recommend me using another controler?
[18:24] <pwca> hi, I am trying to connect my Android cell phone as a storage device but when I plug the USB in it just recharges.
[18:24] <pwca> this worked a while ago and now randomly doesn't.
[18:25] <pwca> the cell phone is an HTC M8 and my OS is Ubuntu Gnome 15.10.
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> !phone | pwca
[18:26] <adrian_1908> pwca: you do set your phone into the right mode as before, yes?
[18:26] <pwca> adrian_1908: it doesn't ask me to go into storage mode, which is what it did when it worked.
[18:27] <pwca> I suspect this may be the core issue.
[18:27] <adrian_1908> pwca: hmm, strange. And you're plugging it into the same USB port each time?
[18:27] <pwca> yeah.
[18:28] <SchrodingersScat> !ssmtp | velusuniverse if you're passing it to an outside email server, does this work for you?
[18:28] <pwca> well, I tried all of them but I think the current one is the same USB as when it worked.
[18:28] <SchrodingersScat> !info ssmtp | velusuniverse if you're passing it to an outside email server, does this work for you?
[18:28] <adrian_1908> pwca: could be the phone instead of Ubuntu, hard to say. It never failed me, but I connect it infrequently.
[18:29] <pwca> I am suspecting it is the phone, but I can't know.
[18:30] <velusuniverse> SchrodingersScat, that dont make sense?
[18:30] <velusuniverse> and is you last bit of the name supose to be scat?
[18:30] <pwca> "Shitty Micro USB cable?"
[18:30] <pwca> huh, could be.
[18:31] <SchrodingersScat> velusuniverse: be-bop-skiddly-do. what part doesn't make sense? I meant external.
[18:31] <Josy> Hello, I'm looking for a light gui VPN manager (for my openbox installation). Anyone have an idea please ?
[18:31] <pwca> different USB cable works.
[18:32] <pwca> ok, thanks for the help.
[18:32] <adrian_1908> cool :)
[18:33] <CodeMouse92> Here's an odd one. I have an Ubuntu 16.04 system (Toshiba Satellite laptop, AMD using open source driver) ...
[18:33] <Ozpri> Hey Guys, is anyone here familiar with Lets Encrypt and certificates in general?
[18:33] <CodeMouse92> Back on 15.10, if I plugged in my external monitor, it would automatically update.
[18:33] <CodeMouse92> Ozpri: Try #letsencrypt
[18:33] <CodeMouse92> The actual developers are there :)
[18:34] <CodeMouse92> Anyhow, after updating to 16.04, when I plug/unplug an external monitor from my laptop, it won't automatically update the display configuration until I go to System Settings (literally just open the window), and THEN it automatically updates.
[18:34] <CodeMouse92> Is there a way to fix this?
[18:35] <Lehnux> IDK maybe GPU drivers ?
[18:35] <Ozpri> Does anyone know if the certificates stored as .pem files in /etc/letsencrypt/live are vaild on another server?
[18:35] <Lehnux> What's the output of lshw ?
[18:36] <Ozpri> the other servers are using different IP addresses which I'm thinking is a huge no no
[18:36] <CodeMouse92> Ozpri: While you may find an answer here, again, join the #letsencrypt channel for expert help
[18:36] <Lehnux> Certs are valid if signed for the server they are created
[18:37] <CodeMouse92> Lehnux: Did you want the complete infodump of sudo lshw in a paste?
[18:37] <Ozpri> hmmmm so if i have serveral different applications (Gitlab, Jira, mailinabox, etc) I would need to generate certs for each server/application and attach some how?
[18:37] <Lehnux> The parr about the GPU
[18:37] <Ozpri> do pem files work in place of /key and .crt?
[18:37] <CodeMouse92> (I'm getting the feeling that I'm being ignored by Ozpri)
[18:37] <Ozpri> what wait?
[18:38] <Ozpri> whats up codemouse?
[18:38] <Lehnux> Key are private or public key not certs
[18:38] <CodeMouse92> Third time: Join the #letsencrypt channel. Those are the actual developers of Let's Encrypt, and can all answer your questions in detail
[18:38] <Ozpri> kew kew tytytyty
[18:38] <CodeMouse92> People in here might *know* certs, but the folks in #letsencrypt are actual professional experts
[18:38] <Lehnux> CodeMouse92 is right
[18:38] <Ozpri> yep gonna hope over there now.
[18:39] <Lehnux> Quite hard sometimes
[18:40] <CodeMouse92> Lehnux: Oookay, so I'm not seeing GPU in my output from sudo lshw
[18:40] <Lehnux> CodeMouse92: I hoped there was a output about the GPU
[18:41] <Lehnux> I'm just reading some doc
[18:41] <CodeMouse92> Ah. No. From "About This Computer," though...
[18:41] <Lehnux> What did you got ?
[18:41] <snowrichard> hi
[18:41] <Lehnux> Hi
[18:41] <Lehnux> Any questions ⌚
[18:41] <Lehnux> *?
[18:41] <CodeMouse92> I'm running: "Gallium 0.4 on AMD SUMO"
[18:41] <CodeMouse92> "...with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics x4"
[18:42] <snowrichard>  there is a problem with using sdhc cards with large partitions.  it seems to be unable to mount tuj
[18:42] <Lehnux> Do you know if you use the open or the closed graphics driver ?
[18:43] <Lehnux> Maybe it's the issue
[18:43] <CodeMouse92> I definitely use the open. fglrx isn't available for Ubuntu 16.04
[18:43] <Lehnux> Define large partition ?
[18:43] <CodeMouse92> But, I switched to the open-source driver back on Ubuntu 15.10 BEFORE the upgrade, so I don't think it's *just* that.
[18:44] <Lehnux> Did it work on 15.10 ?
[18:44] <CodeMouse92> Yes, AFAIR
[18:44] <CodeMouse92> Also have another laptop around here with nearly identical specs on Ubuntu 16.04 that works just fine.
[18:44] <tortib> anyone have any suggestions as to why my usb device i added to my kvm windows guest os isn't showing up in the guest os?
[18:44] <__marc> guys, today i wanted to install ubuntu on another laptop... used dd to put it on a usb drive (like i always do). when i booted there was an error and it put me into a grub menu. could boot into live mode, but whilst trying to install there was a message about uefi... what happened there? any ideas?
[18:44] <Lehnux> Can you try to reproduce the issue on this laptop ?
[18:45] <CodeMouse92> Lehnux: Not if I want to live past tomorrow. (It belongs to my mother)
[18:45] <Lehnux> I'm looking in my collection of old pc if I can get something up and running
[18:46] <Lehnux> Give me the detailled soecs
[18:46] <Lehnux> Specs
[18:46] <CodeMouse92> Lehnux: Of mine? Sure...just a sec
[18:46] <Lehnux> Np
[18:46] <ron__> hello, do you have a new for linux-kernel-nofree in LTS 16.04 ?
[18:47] <haasn> “19:20 <akik> haasn: isn't nomodeset a solution for that?” I'm not getting a grub menu when I boot the u1604-full.iso (via PXE)
[18:47] <haasn> but that actually gives me a good idea
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> ron__  you can choose whather you want non-free software or not, during the installation
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> whether*
[18:48] <haasn> I have grub installed on a different device, I could enter the grub rescue shell and then boot from usb instead
[18:48] <haasn> with nomodeset
[18:48] <tgm4883> wow he's back
[18:48] <CodeMouse92> For one thing, it's a Toshiba Satellite Pro P745D-S4240. 8GB RAM internal (7.3 GB usable by system). AMD A6-3400M APU w/ Radeon(tm) HD Graphics x4. The graphics are actually integrated, but programmed to look like a separate card (that's a fairly common AMD stunt). 64-bit Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, up-to-date.
[18:48] <CodeMouse92> Graphics: "Gallium 0.4 on AMD SUMO (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
[18:49] <Lehnux> Thanks
[18:49] <CodeMouse92> Lehnux: What else would you like to know?
[18:49] <Lehnux> I'm looking at my old pc
[18:49] <sergioad> so? could an XBOX one elite controller work with Ubuntu friends?
[18:49] <Lehnux> Just a few minutes
[18:49] <ron__> MonkeyDust, yes but linux-firmware-nonfree is not ready in 16.04 and the hibernation don't work :x
[18:49] <BluesKaj> hsa or change your boot device sequence to the drive that has grub
[18:49] <BluesKaj> haasn, ^
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> ron__  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[18:50] <tgm4883> sergioad: looks like it's been supported for a long time
[18:51] <haasn> BluesKaj: The machine can't boot from USB, it can only boot from PXE or drives. Luckily, I have grub installed on one of the drives, but it's not configured for the USB stick. I figure I can make it work from the grub rescue shell, though
[18:52] <haasn> (My other attempt would have been to PXE boot some sort of deboostrapped ubuntu 16.04 image that I can then ssh into, but bleh)
[18:52] <sergioad> and what about the controller's padles? tgm4883
[18:52] <ron__> MonkeyDust, I would like install the hibernation in my netbook :)
[18:53] <BluesKaj> why do you need the usb stick , haasn ?
[18:53] <haasn> BluesKaj: what else would I boot from, if not USB or PXE?
[18:54] <tgm4883> sergioad: You'd have to try it. Linux has built in support for the xbox one controller since 3.17
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> ron__  https://www.howtoinstall.co/en/ubuntu/xenial/hibernate
[18:54] <OerHeks> !isoboot
[18:55] <BluesKaj> grub on the drive that you put as first in the boot sequence ion your uefi/bios haasn
[18:55] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[18:55] <haasn> BluesKaj: I don't follow. You mean one of the drives that's in the system already?
[18:55] <sergioad> tgm4883 wich I should grab? An XBOX one gamepad a Wii U one or an elite one?
[18:56] <tgm4883> sergioad: wait, you don't even have a controller yet?
[18:56] <sergioad> I have 200 USD and I want to spend them wisely
[18:57] <sergioad> tgm4883: I have a generic Afterglow one but I want another one to play with my sister
[18:57] <Sitman5000> rich man
[18:57] <Sitman5000> go to womans
[18:57] <Sitman5000> sergioad they always make you happy
[18:57] <Sitman5000> lol
[18:57] <BluesKaj> hasanin,  yes of course, you said grub is installed on one of them
[18:57] <tgm4883> sergioad: Buy whichever one you like the best? I've got a few 360 controllers, a a PS4 controller, and just got a steam controller
[18:58] <tgm4883> !ot | Sitman5000
[18:59] <sergioad> tgm4883 puffff I wish a steam controller but it is not availiable for Mexico
[19:00] <kostrahb> Hi, does anyone know how to get Vulkan working under Ubuntu Xenial (with amd graphic card)? I have tried to install amdgpu pro driver (from amd's site) but it seems that it's not working on 16.04 yet
[19:01] <Lehnux> I'm sorry i don't have a PC that matchs yours
[19:02] <CodeMouse92> lehnux: Ah well, thanks anyway.
[19:02] <CodeMouse92> I've got a post sitting on the Ubuntu FOrums regarding it as well, so we'll see what happens.
[19:03] <sergioad> tgm4883 so? wich one do you think I should grab?
[19:04] <Lehnux> Okay
[19:04] <Lehnux> Keep me updated
[19:05] <tgm4883> sergioad: IDK, I've not used a xbox one controller except briefly
[19:05] <Josy> Hello, anyone know how I can use OpenVPN under openbox installation ? I use Wicd but I don't know how to use VPN with it.
[19:06] <BluesKaj> haasn, ,  yes of course, you said grub is installed on one of the drives, make it first in the boot sequence
[19:06] <sergioad> tgm4883 wich one had you used?
[19:06] <tgm4883> sergioad: I have most experience with the xbox 360 controller.
[19:06] <haasn> BluesKaj: that's what I plan on doing, but I still need to manually input the kernel parameters etc. from the rescue shell
[19:06] <yash>  /join #onetime
[19:08] <BluesKaj> hasanin,  why?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> haasn, why?
[19:10] <haasn> BluesKaj: well, how else would grub know how to boot the livecd?
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> haasn  you can add a .iso in a folder, i forget which, so you can boot a live session from grub
[19:12] <Lehnux> MouseCode92: Did you find anything ?
[19:12] <haasn> MonkeyDust: I already have the livecd on a USB stick, and grub can find it. I assume this way would be easier, too, since I get control over the exact kernel parameters I'm passing when loading it
[19:13] <Lehnux> I got some similar issues but couldn't solve it except by giving more RAM to the PC
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> Lehnux  so the solution was adding more RAM
[19:15] <Lehnux> Yes
[19:16] <etzerd> hello all
[19:17] <etzerd> I'm using the latest beta Ubuntu Mate 16.10 but the menu file is freezing a lot\
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> etzerd  16.10 isnt in beta yet
[19:19] <OerHeks> etzerd, join #ubuntu+1 for support, until release
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> etzerd  beta in august https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule
[19:19] <etzerd> MonkeyDust: I'm using it now as we speak. This is the only version that works great with my new Acer Aspire V17 Nitro
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> etzerd  type this for 16.10 support ... /j #ubuntu+1
[19:21] <etzerd> thanks
[19:32] <Oneriwien> I'm in a bit of a pickle with a flash drive
[19:32] <Oneriwien> overwrote the firmware or something, now I can't format it even though it's in the Disks utility
[19:32] <aidrocsid> So I'm trying to get FTP working as per this: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[19:32] <Oneriwien> dev/sdc1
[19:33] <aidrocsid> unfortunately when I sudo restart vsftpd it says "sudo: restart: command not found"
[19:34] <Lehnux> Sudo service restart vsftpd
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> aidrocsid  try vsftp restart
[19:34] <aidrocsid> restart: unrecognized service
[19:34] <ioria> Oneriwien, try with gparted, recreate the PT
[19:34] <Bashing-om> aid ' sudo service vsftpd restart ' ?? That is the upstart way // systemd ?
[19:34] <Lehnux> Yes
[19:35] <Lehnux> Sry Bashing-om is right
[19:35] <aidrocsid> i don't think i have upstart
[19:35] <aidrocsid> this is a fresh vps
[19:35] <aidrocsid> a;; ot
[19:35] <aidrocsid> all it's got right now is mariadb and teamspeak
[19:35] <Lehnux> Even if you dont have upstart it's like that since 12.04
[19:35] <Lehnux> I think
[19:36] <aidrocsid> AH there we go
[19:36] <aidrocsid> sudo service sftpd restart did it
[19:37] <ioria> sftpd ?
[19:50] <awesomess3> so `sudo apt-get update' is like downloading a fucking library. Why is it doing this?
[19:50] <GordonGekko> hi
[19:51] <k1l> awesomess3: its not loading libraries. its loading the recent packages lists from the repo servers. and please mind your language in here, thanks
[19:51] <GordonGekko> can you tell me the command to remove a link after i used this command:  "update-rc.d znc defaults"
[19:51] <GordonGekko> please
[19:52] <GordonGekko> is it update-rc.d znc remove ?
[19:52] <tortib> sysemctl
[19:52] <tortib> is what you use now since you're using systemd
[19:53] <GordonGekko> tortib , i'm working on znc, and i followed this part to autostart it (im running ubuntu 16):  http://wiki.znc.in/Systemd#Get_the_daemon_up_and_running
[19:54] <tortib> GordonGekko, pretty sure it's systemctl remove znc
[19:55] <tortib> no it isn't remove one second
[19:55] <GordonGekko> it's ok i found
[19:55] <tortib> what is it?
[19:55] <GordonGekko> it's update-rc.d  znc remove
[19:55] <tortib> ok
[19:55] <tortib> thought you could do that with systemctl as well but I guess not
[19:55] <GordonGekko> not sure if i'm correct though
[19:55] <akik> stop to stop, disable to disable
[19:55] <tortib> systemctl disable znc ?
[19:55] <GordonGekko> should i do this http://wiki.znc.in/Systemd#Get_the_daemon_up_and_running or THIS: http://wiki.znc.in/Systemd#systemd
[19:56] <akik> tortib: yes
[19:56] <awesomess3> why is `sudo apt-get update' need to download so much? the download is HUGE.
[19:56] <tortib> awesomess3, i think it would depend on the last time it was updated no/
[19:57] <awesomess3> tortib, well it's the first time. I'm using a liveUSB.
[19:57] <ihatemyisp> GordonGekko: how did you install znc+
[19:57] <k1l> awesomess3: because the live cd is on an old state of all packages.
[19:58] <ihatemyisp> awesomess3: because the image you are using is ancient compared to the repos
[19:58] <OerHeks> updating a live usb .. you will need lots f system memory to keep it all.
[19:59] <akik> GordonGekko: ubuntu 16.04 uses systemd. update-rc.d is modifying links for sysv init system which was used before ubuntu 15.04
[19:59] <tortib> how can I change my sound from pulseaudio to alsa?
 GordonGekko: how did you install znc+ <-i've installed using apt-get install znc
[20:00] <k1l> tortib: are you sure you want to do that?
[20:00] <GordonGekko> ihatemyisp , what's znc+?
[20:00] <tortib> k1l, well i'm getting intermittent audio in a virtual machine using virtual box
[20:00] <tortib> and someone suggested to use alsa or oss
[20:00] <tortib> so i need to at least try to see if helps
[20:00] <GordonGekko> akik , ok so it's the lastest link i should follow.
[20:01] <akik> GordonGekko: yes, systemd
[20:01] <k1l> tortib: uhh, the good old OSS and alsa days where sound really was a pain :/
[20:01] <tortib> k1l, https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=5816
[20:01] <ihatemyisp> GordonGekko: then you should already have a .service
[20:01] <GordonGekko> akik , also i'm running my daemon as specific user which i've created and called 'znc-admin'
[20:01] <k1l> tortib: well, that is from 2008. that is what i call the good old days of oss and alsa, where everything was a pain.
[20:01] <akik> ihatemyisp: not all apps are pre-packaged
[20:02] <tortib> k1l, how can i switch to alsa just to test this
[20:02] <Oneriwien> omg tortib
[20:02] <tortib> huh?
[20:02] <Oneriwien> I remember you from ###Sanctuary
[20:02] <akik> although znc/xenial 1.6.3-1 amd64 exists
[20:02] <tortib> oh I don't remember you, should I?
[20:02] <Oneriwien> I'm x26
[20:02] <ihatemyisp> tortib: 2008....
[20:02] <Oneriwien> x2f
[20:03] <tortib> hahaha
[20:03] <tortib> you
[20:03] <tortib> hahah
[20:03] <ihatemyisp> tortib: why do you think it is still relevant?
[20:03] <tortib> ihatemyisp, beacuse I'm having that exact same issue?
[20:03] <Oneriwien> how do I make a bootable flash drive from a .flp or .bin
[20:04] <k1l> Oneriwien: what is on that images? are you sure its bootable for a live system?
[20:04] <ihatemyisp> tortib: it is highly unlikely to the the same cause
[20:04] <Oneriwien> k1l, it's a bootloader
[20:04] <tortib> ihatemyisp, ALRIGHT
 GordonGekko: then you should already have a .service <-i dont have the service, so i guess i told you a bullshit, maybe i've compiled it from scratch, i dont remember
[20:04] <tortib> do you have any other suggestions then?
[20:04] <ihatemyisp> tortib: unless you are actualy running a gnu/linux install and vbox from 2008
[20:04] <tortib> which i'm not...
[20:05] <ihatemyisp> tortib: what are you actually trying to do? usb passtrough of the audio device?
[20:06] <ihatemyisp> or do you just want to hear sound from the guest on the usb device and don't care how it gets there?
[20:07] <tortib> ihatemyisp, yeah i have a usb audio device
[20:07] <GordonGekko> if i want to run my daemon with a specific user with systemd, i should this file?  ~/.config/systemd/user/znc.service ?
[20:07] <GordonGekko> if i want to run my daemon with a specific user with systemd, i should add this file?  ~/.config/systemd/user/znc.service ?
[20:08] <GordonGekko> logged as that specific user
[20:11] <akik> GordonGekko: that path is mentioned in the guide you pasted
[20:11] <GordonGekko> akik , it's the right path then
[20:12] <GordonGekko> i though i should replace user by my user name
[20:12] <nktt> hi
[20:12] <ericrajuin> Hi all I got a question: do I need to install the missing dependencies when building from source? Can I just download and extract them, put in a directory and somehow make the coufigure script to be able to find them ?
[20:13] <nktt> yes
[20:14] <ANDAY101> does anyone here know how to uninstall unbuntu from windows, so that i can reinstall it.  i messed some stuff up lol
[20:14] <nktt> with windows delete all
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> ANDAY101  how did you install it?
[20:15] <ANDAY101> i keep having grub open when i boot my comp
[20:15] <ANDAY101> i installed it with a usb
[20:15] <ANDAY101> duel boot
[20:15] <SpeccyMan> dual lol
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> ANDAY101  ok, then boot from usb again, use gparted to delete the ubuntu partition
[20:15] <GordonGekko> ihatemyisp , you were right sorry i'm quite tired, i confuses the command, there was already a znc service: http://pastebin.com/QLP5CxSh
[20:15] <nktt> terminal - sudo - grub -remove
[20:16] <fuze> should netflix work in chromium by default on ubuntu 16.04?
[20:16] <nktt> then autoremove
[20:16] <ANDAY101> i deleted the partition already
[20:16] <nktt> and evriting is gone
[20:16] <tortib> ihatemyisp, well?
[20:16] <tortib> any suggestions?
[20:17] <ANDAY101> i wiped the usb, and tried using windows recovery, but that wont work either
[20:17] <ANDAY101> is there a command i am supposed to put into grub when it opens?
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> ANDAY101  you can use Yumi or so, to create a new usb boot stick
[20:18] <ANDAY101> so create a new unbuntu boot stick, i used rufus bfore
[20:18] <GordonGekko> with systemd and older, the autostart script are still in into /etc/init.d/ ?
[20:20] <ihatemyisp> GordonGekko: use a sane pastebn please
[20:21] <GordonGekko> yup, oops
[20:21] <ihatemyisp> GordonGekko: and don't use init.d/, it is a silly distro invented compability layer which does more harm than good
[20:21] <GordonGekko> forgot about ubuntu pastebin
[20:21] <ihatemyisp> GordonGekko: bpaste, gist, ptpb are vastly superiour
[20:24] <gnikc2> Hello. I have noticed that in comparison with my debian-jessie machines, ubuntu 14.04 LTS ones seem to receive few or no updates. Is it still supported, and if yes, why have I not received recent kernel updates, given it's the same generation/version?
[20:24] <gnikc2> (Those being security updates.
[20:24] <ihatemyisp> gnikc2: it is still supported but it is recommended to ugrade to 16.04
[20:25] <gnikc2> Would I need to reinstall completely or is it possible to upgrade without problems?
[20:25] <GordonGekko> how can i properly remove the existing systemd item for znc?
[20:25] <GordonGekko> i think it's corrupted
[20:26] <gnikc2> sudo systemctl znc disable?
[20:32]  * mmaheu 
[20:33] <Jakey3> how do i create folders while i unzip files in terminal
[20:34] <gnikc2> What are you using to unzip?
[20:34] <Jakey3> unzip
[20:35] <gnikc2> Does the '-d <dir>' flag allow automatic creation of directories?
[20:36] <gnikc2> Answer: Yes, as of version 6.0, I just tested.
[20:37] <gnikc2> It only does it on the directly available path though, it does not do anything like 'mkdir -p one/two/three'.
[20:37] <GordonGekko> https://bpaste.net/show/1e2a0d2fb08d
[20:37] <GordonGekko> what's wrong?
[20:38] <GordonGekko> i'm lost
[20:38] <__raven> hi
[20:38] <k1l> GordonGekko: how did you install the znc?
[20:38] <Jakey3> gnikc2, ok thanks for the info
[20:38] <GordonGekko> k1l , apt-get install znc
[20:38] <__raven> how to increase secure ftp (sshfs/sftp) speed on ~600ms rtt?
[20:39] <GordonGekko> i fucked up the systemd entry
[20:39] <k1l> GordonGekko: did you change the configfile?
[20:39] <gnikc2> Is znc still installed?
[20:39] <GordonGekko> gnikc2 yes it's still installed and config is done
[20:39] <GordonGekko> just that it's not auto running
[20:39] <k1l> GordonGekko: juil. 04 20:32:09 odroid64 znc[11966]: chown: invalid user: ‘znc:znc’
[20:40] <GordonGekko> i've created a user to run it (because you cant run it as root anywa), called znc-admin
[20:40] <k1l> GordonGekko: so either you did change the config the wrong way to run as user znc or the package got a bug
[20:41] <GordonGekko> i did the wrong
[20:41] <Jakey3> gnikc2, i still need to create the directory though
[20:41] <Jakey3> with mkdir?
[20:41] <GordonGekko> where is located this znc:znc ?
[20:41] <k1l> GordonGekko: in short: its trying to run znc as user zns which is not present on your system
[20:41] <gnikc2> https://serverfault.com/questions/606520/how-to-remove-missing-systemd-units This may be relevant
[20:41] <GordonGekko> k1l , yes the user i want to run as is called 'znc-admin"
[20:42] <GordonGekko> but i dont know which file should i edit?
[20:42] <k1l> GordonGekko: i dont know about the standard setup of znc. so did you change that?
[20:42] <gnikc2> More detailed info :  https://superuser.com/questions/513159/how-to-remove-systemd-services
[20:42] <GordonGekko> GordonGekko , it's not into systemd files?
[20:43] <GordonGekko> k1l , i did all the znc config
[20:43] <GordonGekko> znc.conf
[20:43] <k1l> GordonGekko: so again: what did you change so it doesnt find the user znc. because i guess the original ubuntu package install should have solved this issue
[20:44] <GordonGekko> k1l i dont have a clue
[20:44] <GordonGekko> i dont know at all
[20:44] <GordonGekko> i just edited znc.conf
[20:44] <GordonGekko> maybe i fucked up into /etc/init.d
[20:44] <Jakey3> how to pipe into a file removing the .zip
[20:45] <Jakey3> e.g: ls > foo
[20:45] <k1l> GordonGekko: i dont know what you all changed.
[20:45] <GordonGekko> k1l , there's no znc user
[20:45] <Jakey3> the ls file contain .zip but i dont want to pipe the .zip
[20:45] <Jakey3> part of the file name
[20:47] <goudkov> what's the difference in nautilus (on 12.04 if that matters) between connecting to a "location" as ssh:// vs sftp:// ? do both of the use sshfs or does one really use sftp?
[20:50] <Jakey3> i found the answer
[20:50] <Jakey3> ls -1 | sed -e 's/\..*$//'
[20:50] <Jakey3> can someone explain how this works
[21:00] <Oneriwien> How do I connect to NSA320 http://i.imgur.com/lkkwtoN.png
[21:00] <Oneriwien> it doesn't show up in nautilus
[21:00] <Oneriwien> that's the result of smbtree
[21:05] <Ales> WHY can't i see openvpn panel when configure vpn connections
[21:05] <Ales> i installed openvpn + gnome
[21:07] <arctik> hi, I use a amd h5450 and since ubuntu 16.04, there is no amd Driver, so I use open source version, but I have very poor video performance, is ther a solution?
[21:07] <arctik> perhapse someone here use this card too?
[21:09] <x-fak> k1l , i found that the chown command is coming from /etc/init.d/znc
[21:09] <x-fak> i've edited the user and group lines
[21:09] <x-fak> now i got this:  https://bpaste.net/show/25ef14bea0d3
[21:24] <leminsc8> i need help join german channel for uuntu mate
[21:25] <leminsc8> need help by installation with two systems (mate and windows)
[21:27] <dax> leminsc8: #ubuntu-de
[21:34] <ubuntu76> enjoying my new magazine of ubuntu user I bought yesterday.
[21:44] <seb_lap> d
[21:45] <seb_lap> hi
[21:50] <SchrodingersScat> seb_lap: howdy
[21:51] <seb_lap> doing fine SchrodingersScat what about you
[21:51] <SchrodingersScat> seb_lap: did you have a ubuntu question?
[21:52] <seb_lap> im trying to make my touchpad support multitouch
[21:55] <seb_lap> but i cant install the focaltech dkms
[21:55] <seb_lap> nevermind
[22:05] <the_newbie> hey
[22:05] <Guy1524> hello, for some reason on my ubuntu install, even though FPS for source games are very high, the picture is not smooth at all, its the worst w/o vsync on and is a bit better w/ it on, but nothing near what it is like in windows
[22:05] <Guy1524> I am using intel hd 4600 graphics
[22:05] <the_newbie> hey , i'm getting blank notifications on elementary desktop
[22:06] <ilken> http://imgur.com/a/wCGXM
[22:06] <the_newbie> can anyone suggest me somethong how can i solve it
[22:08] <tgm4883> !elementary | the_newbie
[22:09] <the_newbie> tggm4883 : thanx
[22:09] <tgm4883> ilken: off topic
[22:12] <ilken> the_newbie: I used a Ubuntu computer to post those
[22:12] <ilken> so on topic
[22:12] <dax> except the topic is ubuntu support, so no
[22:12] <k1l> ilken: this channel is technical support only. thanks
[22:13] <the_newbie> hey i am new to irc channels , using them for the first time
[22:13] <the_newbie> so i don't know where to post
[22:13] <lucaslopes> como deixa ubuntu mais level
[22:13] <ilken> the_newbie just use /amsg <text>
[22:13] <tgm4883> the_newbie: he misdirected that at you
[22:14] <the_newbie> so please tell me how can i connect to elementaryos group
[22:15] <SchrodingersScat> the_newbie: try /join #elementary
[22:15] <k1l> the_newbie: "/join #elementary"
[22:15] <the_newbie> ok
[22:16] <the_newbie> ya i've been directed to a different page
[22:16] <the_newbie> i'll try posting my query there
[22:19] <Keyboard_> Hi
[22:20] <ddybing> Hi, Keyboard
[22:20] <Keyboard_> http://pastie.org/10898890
[22:21] <Keyboard_> ddybing: any help^
[22:21] <the_newbie_> can anyone tell me some useful apps for ubuntu ???
[22:21] <ddybing> Keyboard: Sorry - that's not my field!
[22:21] <ddybing> the_newbie: What type of work do you do on your computer?
[22:22] <Keyboard_> ok
[22:22] <the_newbie_> basically i do programmiing mostly
[22:23] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> where there are many times when an unwanted window pops from behind the one which I'm trying to maximize? it seems like there is a gap between the front window and ubuntu unity global menu!
[22:23] <ddybing> the_newbie: Well, personally, I love the Atom editor! It's exceptional for any kind of programming language, as well as editing configuration files. It also has a variety of plugins, and is fully customizable as it is built on technologies like CSS and Javascript
[22:24] <the_newbie_> I'm also using atom editor and i too love it
[22:24] <ddybing> the_newbie: Awesome!
[22:25] <the_newbie_> ddybing : i've just installed elementarty os and suffering a problem
[22:25] <the_newbie_> where can i get an answer to that
[22:26] <tgm4883> the_newbie_: you were already directed at the elementary chat
[22:26] <the_newbie_> ya but no one is active there
[22:26] <ddybing> the_newbie: That's unfortunate! I would go over to the Elementary OS forum at https://elementaryforums.com. Alternatively you can join the channel #elementaryos
[22:26] <tgm4883> the_newbie_: all the more reason to use a more supported distro such as Ubuntu
[22:28] <SchrodingersScat> Keyboard_: can't say much about your software thinking there's another copy open, but pretty sure those two processes aren't truecrypt
[22:28] <SchrodingersScat> Keyboard_: also, killall kills by name
[22:29] <Keyboard_> SchrodingersScat:  $ sudo killall truecrypt truecrypt: no process found
[22:30] <ddybing> the_newbie_: Well, here in Europe it is in the middle of the night, so I suppose most people are asleep ;-)
[22:30] <SchrodingersScat> Keyboard_: so far only truecrypt seems to think truecrypt is running, have you tried asking them for support?
[22:31] <Keyboard_> SchrodingersScat:  no one answers there. I cant trace which process is it that says truecrype is running
[22:31] <Keyboard_> SchrodingersScat:  actually, which is the truecrypt one
[22:32] <tgm4883> wait, people trust truecrypt again?
[22:32] <SchrodingersScat> tgm4883: no
[22:32] <tgm4883> ah ok
[22:32] <tgm4883> I was worried for a minute
[22:32] <ddybing> I'm calling it a day. Good bye, everyone.
[22:33] <SchrodingersScat> tgm4883: I assume it's like how some people still run BBS just for kicks
[22:33] <tgm4883> SchrodingersScat: Keyboard_ so a quick google search suggests deleting the lock file, has that been tried yet?
[22:33] <tgm4883> it should be at ~/.truecrypt_lock
[22:34] <SchrodingersScat> that should really be a lock directory to avoid race conditions
[22:35] <tgm4883> SchrodingersScat: well it should really be checking running processes instead of a lock file, but we're talking about a program that is no longer updated...
[22:35] <mountaga> hello
[22:36] <mountaga> thanks
[22:36] <SchrodingersScat> hello
[22:36] <adastra> ei
[22:37] <adastra> if it's not much axing, I will ax a question
[22:37] <daumie> hello fam...anyone using sublime text?
[22:37] <daumie> I need help configuring this package https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Clipboard%20Manager                            │ Ameo
[22:37] <daumie> 01:33 daumie | How do I set clipboard Manager to receive the copy and cut commands
[22:38] <Bashing-om> !ask | adastra
[22:39] <k1l> daumie: i guess best is to ask the sublime guys about their softwrae
[22:39] <WhiteNight> !patience
[22:39] <daumie> k1l: The question lies more on this side than on #sublimetext channel
[22:40] <Keyboard_> tgm4883:  ok
[22:40] <WhiteNight> While Thunderbird is an amazing email client, the issue I face is outgoing emails have bizzare and ugly font settings, and I need to change it all the time. I tried and couldn't make it consistent/default. Please advise, thanks ...
[22:41] <daumie> Rephrasing the question....How can I assign a variable to receive copy, cut and paste commands?
[22:41] <daumie> daumie: copy and paste i mean
[22:43] <SchrodingersScat> !info xclip | daumie
[22:45] <crypticGator>  how do you fix your screen resolution. It says unknown display and it is 1024x768 on a 4k samsung
[22:45] <crypticGator> I'm using nouveau I guess
[22:48] <k1l> crypticGator: any adapters involved in connecting that screen?
[22:49] <bhuv> how to copy files to linux directories
[22:49] <k1l> bhuv: from another OS?
[22:49] <bhuv> no from downloads
[22:50] <bhuv> i am on linux mint
[22:50] <bhuv> @kll
[22:50] <k1l> !mint | bhuv
[22:50] <k1l> the irc programs on mint should connect directly to their support chat.
[22:51] <al2o3-cr> bhuv: i'd just ask in ##linux on here
[22:51] <crypticGator> kil, no. No adaptors. USB 2.0 from GTX960 card
[22:52] <bhuv> the commands r same rnt they?
[22:52] <k1l> crypticGator: usb connection? i guess you need the prop. nvidia drivers for that. (if that supports 4k at all)
[22:53] <k1l> bhuv: ask in ##linux for general linux help then. dont misuse this ubuntu support channel for mint support.
[22:53] <bhuv> ok
[22:54] <leminsc8> j#ubuntu-mate
[22:55] <crypticGator> HDMI*
[22:55] <crypticGator> sorry
[22:56] <crypticGator> I'm going to go with proprietory drivers for now. I'll try wayland some other time
[22:57] <Bashing-om> crypticGator: What release are you running ? http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/104284/en-us . Nvidia recommeneds the 367 version driver . In 16.04 is available in our trusted PPA .
[22:59] <crypticGator> I didnt' use any Nvidia drivers yet. I'm using nouveu
[23:09] <crypticGator> in the Nouveau Chat they asked me to ask you guys about a firmware load error
[23:09] <crypticGator> "Direct firmware load for nvidia/gm206/gr/sw_nonctx.bin failed with error -2"
[23:11] <gmh> Anyone that know how to use input_word_2 and input_word_3 in a bash alias?
[23:11] <gmh> Example: gpg --symmetric < unencrypted_file > encrypted_file
[23:12] <gmh> Example: encrypt unencrypted_file encrypted_file
[23:14] <b-yeezi> gmh I usually just write a bash script to do this and store it in my ~/bin folder
[23:15] <gmh> I don't know how to write a bash script -_- (noob incoming). I thought maybe I could use the alias='' function somehow.
[23:15] <b-yeezi> name the file encrypt
[23:15] <b-yeezi> then in the file, do:
[23:16] <b-yeezi> #!/bin/bash
[23:16] <b-yeezi> gpg --symmetric < $1 > $2
[23:17] <b-yeezi> after you save the file, do chmod u+x encrypt
[23:17] <gmh> b-yeezi: Who knew bash scripting could be so simple :)
[23:18] <gmh> b-yeezi: Thanks m8 :)
[23:18] <b-yeezi> no problem. I have a dozen files like that in my /bin folder
[23:19] <b-yeezi> Then another dozen in my aliases/functions
[23:20] <dg87> is there a way to easily transfer music to and from ubuntu and an iPod?
[23:21] <b-yeezi> dg87 if the files are not in iTunes, it's pretty easy using Banshee
[23:22] <dg87> b-yeezi, will Clementine work?
[23:22] <b-yeezi> Just enable the iPod plugin in preferences. I have done this with an old nano (2009). I don't know about Clementine.
[23:22] <b-yeezi> I think there is a plugin for that too.
[23:27] <dg87> b-yeezi, i'm gonna try out and install banshee
[23:27] <b-yeezi> OK. It's not as pretty as clementine, but has some nice features.
[23:27] <dg87> i thought banshee was discontinued tho
[23:28] <b-yeezi> Maybe now new development, but it still works
[23:59] <ravness> hi