[11:03] hello ochosi [11:05] hey [11:06] what's up? [11:13] not much, renovating the house and working on some porting fun [11:13] currently notifyd, which i can hopefully release soon, and greybird [11:13] ah [11:13] :) [11:13] so was the "greybird port" to any use [11:13] i've set up a 3.20 PPA for myself for xenial [11:13] nope [11:13] + question mark [11:13] yeah :/ [11:13] i want to go sass anyway [11:13] right [11:13] and it didn't look like greybird at all [11:13] i thought it was SASS [11:13] heh [11:14] anyway, i think it won't be too hard, just time-consuming to get everything right [11:14] yep, i kind of read that from between the lines, but i didn't read it too carefully so wasn't sure [11:14] indeed [11:14] everything is spread out a little [11:14] so i guess one question is [11:14] would a CSS->SASS port without previewing be useful? [11:14] yes, i think so [11:14] i mean, if i simply went and converted all CSS to SASS, expecting it to work.. [11:15] well [11:15] i want to rebase on Adwaita [11:15] to make maintenance a little easier [11:15] so no, it wouldn't be useful :P [11:15] so it's not just conversion [11:15] it's fixing greybird into adwaita [11:15] yep [11:15] but you could still do that without testing [11:15] i've mostly done it like that so far [11:15] fixed one widget, went to testing [11:15] i guess one thing that could actually be useful is discuss about what kind of things make greybird greybird [11:16] and even making some graphical examples [11:16] yeah, maybe [11:16] also as a guideline for the future [11:16] i mean as soon as everything is gtk3-only in xfce that may change a little [11:16] how much have you converted so far? [11:16] much more freedom and more options [11:16] just the colors and the buttons [11:16] okay [11:16] i started yesterday and set up my env [11:16] and then started the porting late [11:16] aha [11:17] in between fixing some notifyd issues [11:17] :) [11:17] so notebook is half-done, and buttons [11:17] yeah, another thing we need is good documentation on gtk widget names >__< [11:22] morning you two :) [11:22] anyway, i'll push some of my work soon if you wanna contribute [11:22] afternoon you one [11:22] heh [11:22] now i need to take a nap [11:22] cause then the renovation work continues [11:22] tbh, i don't think i will have much time/motivation until august, but we'll see [11:22] ochosi: sounds great ... [11:23] ok then [11:23] hf [11:23] you too [12:08] pleia2, i just shared all of my xubuntu stuff in google drive with you (hf), including the WIP 16.04 publicity pack [12:08] and i should drive (pun intended) myself to pushing even more of my stuff online so they are available for all, but bleh === genii_ is now known as genii [15:18] knome: cool, thanks [16:31] knome: this is great :) [16:32] pleia2, yeah, probably still needs some polish [16:32] not the language [16:32] i was also thinking point release announcements etc [16:34] I haven't looked too closely at those generated docs [16:35] generated docs? [16:35] did you look at my quick draft to reply to submissions? I'd like to send it out [16:35] nope, but i can do that now [16:35] the stuff in the release announcement and notes folder [16:35] I assume those are generated from the wiki [16:35] right, they are basically just copies of the announcement/notes with some formatting edits [16:35] website and wiki [16:36] * pleia2 nods [16:36] they are fine - they are manually crafted [16:36] i mean for the parts that require manual craft... [16:36] where's the draft again? [16:36] oh, the pad [16:36] just a sec [16:36] that's why i lost it... [16:37] "when voting begins" [16:37] i don't think we said anything about voting really [16:37] we said we'll select.. [16:37] ok [16:37] oh haha, two pinks [16:38] I think we want to put all of them on the wiki or something [16:38] also, i don't think we want to say "we will publish this" [16:38] why not? [16:38] the whole point is to collect a bunch of stories to share :) [16:38] if submissions are not obeying guidelines [16:39] oh, I think those should be treated on a case by case basis [16:39] we don't use a form letter for that [16:39] though i guess then we'll send another kind of mail or no mail at all [16:39] ;) [16:39] the ones so far seem fine [16:39] there was one that was already borderline [16:39] not the story itself, but the "funny" part [16:39] yeah, the word was a bit meh [16:39] yep [16:40] maybe that's better? [16:40] leaves us some wiggle room [16:41] sure [16:41] I don't think we need a subject, I assumed we'd just reply to their submission [16:41] right... [16:42] * knome is a bit out of focus [16:42] eg. blurry [16:42] :P [16:42] :) [16:42] i think that's good [16:42] if people start yelling at us for sending silly mails we can re-evaluate [16:42] ok, I'm going to reply to the 3 submissions [16:42] thanks [16:42] also [16:42] should it be "Xubuntu marketing team"? [16:43] I think mostly people just want something to tell them their mail didn't go into a black hole [16:43] yeah [16:43] sure [16:43] knome's inbox ---^ [16:43] ok, this is good [16:44] do we have an idea when we want to stop collecting submissions? [16:44] end of summerish? [16:44] yeah [16:44] maybe end of july if we get a massive surge of interest [16:44] like somewhere before the 16.10 release stuff starts rolling in our web stuff [16:44] (hah) [16:44] sure [16:44] i was thinking end of august [16:44] more is more this time [16:45] oh, another thing... [16:45] do we consider mostly xfce stories? [16:45] what do you mean? [16:46] this is mostly theoretical right now, but if somebody sent a story that is about xfce but not xubuntu [16:46] I think I'm going to request that the questionable one be adjusted some [16:46] i mean if they specifically mention they were using some other OS [16:46] ah, I think we'd have to see how applicable it is to Xubuntu [16:46] oki [16:46] referencing another OS would be a bit :\ I think [16:48] yep [16:50] but otoh, the "xubuntu stories" can be anything about not xubuntu [16:50] like "i remember the exact day i started using xubuntu because i got proposed on the same day!" [16:50] well, they have to include xubuntu some how, else the're not xubuntu stories [16:50] that isn't exactly related to xubuntu, but i would consider it valid for the contest [16:51] ah, sure [16:59] knome: plz to make pretty https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-contacts [17:00] ugh. :) [17:00] :D [17:00] ok, i'll look at it [17:01] thank you [17:07] ok, mailman page for -contacts should be better now [17:08] next i'll drop the subscription text [17:09] yay, pretty \o/ [17:09] except i broke it [17:10] yeah, some stray -- > [17:10] ok, should be fixed now [17:10] cool [17:12] ok, some of the excess space is cleared now [17:13] looks good [17:13] yep, much better indeed [17:13] and no silly subscription requests [17:14] yeah [17:53] ok bbl [21:32] wb bluesabre [21:33] (: [21:36] hey ochosi and knome [21:36] might disappear a few more times, moving servers [21:37] physically moving around server racks again, are we, eh? [21:37] no way [21:37] :) [21:37] new droplet, scp important things, change dns [21:38] no way, so you have to carry them through the forest? [21:38] are you sure the coverage is better in the woods? [21:38] it could be [21:38] cell cariers around here don't make the best decisions [21:38] :P [21:38] your servers are behind a cellular line? [21:39] they could be [21:39] we're in the future [21:39] anything is possible [21:39] you mean judging from your current uplink? [21:39] >___< [21:40] * ochosi restarts his session hoping more of the gtk320 theming will finally apply... [21:42] ochosi: how are the theme updates coming along? [21:42] quite ok actually [21:42] haven't had too much time to work on it [21:42] but i have the scrollbars, buttons and headerbars down. plus xfce panel and notifyd [21:42] many other things (like sidebar) i have tweaked, but it's not done yet [21:43] quite a bit more to do [21:43] but it feels manageable [21:43] very cool [21:44] still don't understand why some things arent what they should be, but i haven't even opened up the inspector yet [21:45] so i guess it's my own fault [21:45] yes [21:45] it's all your fault [21:45] [: