[00:06] <karmicoil> hello
[00:07] <karmicoil> I'm in the process of installing Kubuntu 18
[00:07] <karmicoil> trying to multi boot alongside Windows 7 and later another distro
[00:09] <karmicoil> I was reading (here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Multiple_OS_Installation ) that I had to chainload using Grub Legacy
[00:09] <karmicoil> but that's old documentation talking about Kubuntu 9.1
[00:09] <karmicoil> Karmic Koala
[00:10] <karmicoil> I couldnt find if the workaround was still necessary or worked the same for kubuntu 18
[00:10] <lethu> karmicoil: you can install kubuntu then boot repair it will take care of fixing the boot for both kubuntu and windows
[00:12] <karmicoil> Would that leave the bootloader in a ready place for installing yet another OS in another partition afterward?
[00:13] <lethu> karmicoil: you will just have to run boot repair again
[00:14] <karmicoil> i see -- would it be worth following the guide at the link? the wiki lists two different methods to avoid having to boot repair each time
[00:15] <lethu> yes if you are experienced enough you can manually edit the grub config file
[00:17] <karmicoil> one way is to just install as normal (but its talking about kubuntu 9.1 karmic koala) , then  replace grub 2 with grub legacy so that it gets copied to the MBR, and then reinstalll grub2 for just the boot partition where kubuntu is
[00:17] <karmicoil> i'm not experience enough, honestly. but i'm learning as I go haha
[00:17] <lethu> :)
[00:18] <karmicoil> i just wanted to look around before attempting that because the documentation was so sold
[00:18] <karmicoil> so old*
[00:18] <karmicoil> wasnt sure if it still applied, if grub 2 was still the boot loader etc
[00:19] <lethu> karmicoil: yeah grub2 iss still the boot loader
[00:20] <lethu> is*
[00:22] <karmicoil> ah thank you
[00:23] <karmicoil> do you know if a boot partition *has* to be a primary partition, or could it be logical?
[00:29] <lethu> karmicoil: imo it wouldn't let you use the wrong partition type if it was restricted to one, also I think that there is no need for a boot partition as it uses the master boot record of the hard drive, but I am not sure, been a long while since I have done it manually
[00:33] <karmicoil> i think this method of chain loading is a rare case of boot partitions becoming important: "The Grub menu residing in the boot partition will be only be used to chainload the specific bootloader files stored in the partition of whichever operating system is chosen from the menu (no matter whether the chosen operating system is a Windows, Mac, (K)ub
[00:33] <karmicoil> untu, or other Linux operating system).
[00:33] <karmicoil> Each operating system can therefore use the bootloader/configuration file that is peculiar to it, storing it in its own partition."
[00:33] <karmicoil> "  It will also not affect the primary bootup menu (stored in the boot partition), and each operating system will be able keep its own independent bootup process intact.
[00:33] <karmicoil> This avoids a common problem with many operating system installers (including Ubuntu) which attempt to impose a single bootloader on all the operating systems residing on a hard drive. The installer overwrites the Master Boot Record so that it only points to the bootloader installed with that operating system (within that operating system's partiti
[00:33] <karmicoil> on). When this happens, the bootloader files can only be edited while running that particular operating system and cannot be adjusted by any other operating system. Further, after this happens several times (following multiple OS installations), it eventually becomes difficult to remember which partition has the bootloader configuration files that
[00:33] <karmicoil> the Master Boot Record points to. With the chainloading method, you don't have to worry about that, any longer. The Master Boot Record will be set to point to the bootloader configuration files stored in the boot partition at all times. Once this is set up, the Master Boot Record need never be changed. "
[00:34] <karmicoil> But this ^ was
[00:34] <karmicoil> written around Kubuntu 9.1 days
[00:41] <lethu> I know only one way to do it, it is by writing over the MBR
[00:41] <lethu> sorry can't help you with the other manner
[00:43] <lethu> karmicoil: hang around a little, somebody more experienced might show up
[00:44] <karmicoil> ah, okay. I hope so. I'm reading more about how to set up the boot process in this way in the meantime. hopefully can set it up just with the info out there
[00:45] <karmicoil> thank you for taking the time to respond though, i appreciate it :)
[00:45] <lethu> karmicoil: np :)
[01:06] <paolo_> well, I want to control my pc by an android phone. Is it possible to control it using VNC through usb ?
[01:07] <faLUCE> well, I want to control my pc by an android phone. Is it possible to control it using VNC through usb ?
[01:27] <Guest82500> hi everyone, i've been trying to get WebEx (client) working in Kubuntu 16.04 LTS 32-bit
[01:28] <Guest82500> It worked fine in Kubuntu 15.10 32-bit, but just doesn't work in 16.04 :-(
[01:28] <Guest82500> Am using Sun ^H^H^H Oracle Java, also tried IcedTea.
[01:28] <Guest82500> The client launches and works OK, but screen sharing does not.
[01:29] <Guest82500> So I guess I should say, am trying to get WebEx screen sharing working in Kubuntu 16.04 32-bit ;-)
[01:30] <Guest82500> No issues in 15.10, same hardware.  Tried in 16.04 "stock" (no updates), and also full updates.  Thinkpad with Intel graphics (no Nvidia)
[01:31] <Guest82500> Also tried suggestions at http://askubuntu.com/questions/115094/webex-desktop-sharing-on-64-bit-ubuntu but no effect; however, I am using 32-bit live ISO anyway....
[01:33] <Guest82500> Using latest version of FF (47.0), also tried with older version. Java is JRE8u91 32-bits
[02:20] <Guest82500> not sure what changed from 15.10 to 16.04 that made screen share stop working :-?
[02:20] <Guest82500> checked the logs, nothing helpful there...
[03:29] <Hoola> In kubuntu in appstartup I am adding apps to autostart I get this error on each addition "COuld not save properties. You do not have sufficient access to write to /home/kubuntu1/.local/share/applications/sktop" funny as i can create text files as non root in .local/share kde should have just created the dir
[03:30] <Hoola> what should I do ?
[03:32] <Hoola> actual message is "Could not save properties. You do not have sufficient access to write to /home/kubuntu1/.local/share/applications/sktop."
[03:33] <Hoola> that actually is a weird message though. As .local/share/applications folder does not exists
[03:34] <Hoola> and it is in the hone dir so it is accessible by non root
[03:35] <Hoola> home
[03:39] <Hoola> hmm brb let me test if autostart still works
[05:14] <dellhem> Hey. If I want the same taskmanager on multiple displat, is there anyway to clone it?
[05:14] <dellhem> It's customized and dissapears sometimes after reboot.. Kind of annoying.
[05:15] <soee> clone it ? not sure, not with any gui
[05:15] <soee> probalby by copying sme configuration
[05:16] <dellhem> fine by me, but didn't find anything relevant..
[05:16] <dellhem> where is the taskbar config located?
[05:17] <soee> it is per widget per panel configuration i think
[05:17] <soee> some file in .config
[05:17] <soee> dellhem: better to ask later on #plasma
[05:23] <dellhem> soee, cool thanks
[06:21] <paranoidabhi> HI!
[06:21] <paranoidabhi>  there is any fix for not clearly visible libre-office menu(http://imgur.com/b9izfNh). I am  using kde 5.6.4 on kubuntu 16.04
[07:19] <Guest1061> .
[07:33] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:52] <leumas> hi
[08:54] <hateball> hello
[11:57] <ikzderb> hi
[12:12] <hegemon8> ikzderb: hi
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:12] <paranoidabhi> When in kubuntu https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.7.0.php?
[13:12] <paranoidabhi> 16.04
[13:12] <paranoidabhi> any etas?
[13:16] <hateball> paranoidabhi: I think the fine folk in #kubuntu-devel may know more
[13:16] <acheronuk> paranoidabhi: no, as it requires Qt 5.6.x which is not the default in 16.04. If done, then needs to be backported in a way that does not break other ubuntu packages
[13:17] <acheronuk> looking at that, but can't give an eta ATM
[13:19] <paranoidabhi> acheronuk, thanks, the bug fixes are much awaited. Hoping to use 16.04, not keen on using 16.10 to get them :)
[13:22] <paranoidabhi> acheronuk, in worst-case scenario do you recommend using kde-neon?
[13:23] <paranoidabhi> on kubuntu 16.04
[13:24] <acheronuk> if it meets your expectations, then why not. bearing in mind that as they are overlaying an unsupported Qt version on 16.04, some things they don't support/rebuild may not work
[13:25] <acheronuk> also they recommend doing a fresh install using their isos, rather than adding the repos to kubuntu
[14:16] <soul> Everytime I reboot I have issues... Now, I can't listen through headphones, does anyone know here how to solve this? Musiiic! :/
[16:31] <user|43632> how do i find md5 # for kubuntu
[16:34] <genii> ... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ ...
[16:35] <Unit193> !hashes| this too, but he's gone.
[19:01] <TBotNik> All: Keep getting the error: "The file /home/user/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/ProcessTable.sgrd does not contain valid XML.".  I removed/purged ksysguard, rebooted and re-installed but still get the error!  Any ideas why?
[19:03] <rattking> a purge doesnt remove those generated files in your home dir, so I would try moving that file out of there first
[19:53] <tobias_> hey there i'm on ubuntu neon and cant get netbeans running
[19:59] <tobias_> netbeans --help gives the help info and has an exeption in the main thread: java.lang.SecurityExeption: setContestClassLoader
[20:06] <tobias_> java is configured to 7, but my log says 9-ea
[20:54] <memphisto> Hi guys. Just a general question. I'm in LTS waters always, and i'm running kubuntu 14.04 on laptop and kubuntu 16.04 on desktop
[20:55] <memphisto> but it seems that plasma 5 somehow lts behind the kde4 counterpart
[20:55] <Smurphy> In what ?
[20:55] <memphisto> first can't easily change ksplash
[20:55] <memphisto> there isn't wigdet for pictures
[20:56] <memphisto> which i miss a lot
[20:56] <Smurphy> yep.
[20:56] <memphisto> no different wallpapers on different screens
[20:56] <memphisto> so it feels like kind of downgrad
[20:56] <memphisto> e
[20:57] <Smurphy> Well - don't have a problem with that TBH... :}
[20:57] <memphisto> really?
[20:58] <Smurphy> yes. It does not really matter to me .. that's what I meant.
[20:58] <Smurphy> Didn't try it.
[20:58] <Smurphy> You should ask in the #plasma channel. they may help you ther.e
[20:58] <memphisto> well no. i want kubuntu.
[20:58] <memphisto> kde /plasma devs will fix it eventually
[20:59] <memphisto> but i'm LTS, meaing i want stable linux env
[20:59] <memphisto> and if kde in kubuntu will be like this for long time
[20:59] <memphisto> then i could stay in kubuntu 14.04
[20:59] <memphisto> i'll anyway endup with both kde4, and kde5 libs
[21:00] <memphisto> since not all aps have migrated
[21:00] <memphisto> am i wrong?
[21:00] <memphisto> is kubuntu 16.04 /kde5 really better for you than kubuntu 14.04/kde4
[21:01] <memphisto> i don't know should i go back
[21:01] <somekool> plasma 5 is a lot better
[21:01] <somekool> kde4 was great, I loved it, but i could never go back
[21:02] <memphisto> ok. can you share how to put picture frame on kubuntu 16.04, i like haveing it
[21:02] <memphisto> it should have some slide show with pics of my kids
[21:02] <somekool> i have dual monitors and each have a different screenshot, is that what you meant about different screen?
[21:02] <memphisto> really miss it
[21:02] <hikmet> memphisto: there is a widget called media frame
[21:03] <somekool> you can sure have different wallpapers on different activity screen. It should still be supported for workspace as well
[21:03] <memphisto> hikmet let me check
[21:03] <Smurphy> memphisto: I am using the backports - plasma 5.6 on my LTS release. I always do that.
[21:03] <Smurphy> No problems so far.
[21:03] <memphisto> plasma just crashed :)
[21:03] <memphisto> sec
[21:04] <memphisto> there is media player
[21:04] <memphisto> but no media frame
[21:04] <somekool> plasma crash is usually caused by obscure widget
[21:05] <Smurphy> media frame ? What you want to do ?
[21:05] <somekool> mem
[21:05] <memphisto> have pics of kids as slide show on the desktop as I used to
[21:06] <somekool> memphisto: looks like media frame is still broken, you will have to wait or fix it yourself... sorry
[21:06] <memphisto> great :)
[21:06] <somekool> Error loading QML file: file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.mediaframe/contents/ui/main.qml:21:1: plugin cannot be loaded for module "QtQuick.Dialogs": The plugin '/usr/lib/qt/qml/QtQuick/Dialogs/libdialogplugin.so' uses incompatible Qt library. (5.7.0) [release]
[21:06] <hikmet> i am using kubuntu backports, it works for me
[21:06] <somekool> this is the error I get
[21:06] <Smurphy> You should install the backports.
[21:06] <memphisto> i guess so
[21:06] <Smurphy> backports plasma
[21:07] <somekool> hikmet sounds good, I dont have the backports...
[21:07] <shifu> after update to kubuntun 16.04, the boot is possible only unsing upstart option in the grub option, why?
[21:07] <memphisto> could you kihmet share a link on how to install backports
[21:08] <memphisto> and that kind of kills the LTS  in kubuntu 16.04
[21:08] <memphisto> maybe i should then go with kde neon?
[21:08] <Smurphy> That's how I did it: http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-6-4-available-in-16-04-backports/
[21:09] <memphisto> thanks
[21:09] <memphisto> let me check it out
[21:09] <shifu> after update to kubuntun 16.04, the boot is possible only unsing upstart option in the grub option, why?
[21:09] <Smurphy> same here: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/install-kde-plasma-5-6-kubuntu-16-04/
[21:10] <memphisto> ok. thats official from kubuntu
[21:10] <memphisto> i'm installing then
[21:10] <Smurphy> yes.
[21:10] <memphisto> thanks for listening and helping
[21:10] <Smurphy> Yeah. going to bed now. Getting late and I have to work tomorrow :)
[21:10] <Smurphy> Cya .
[21:14] <memphisto> shifu do you have systemd installed
[21:14] <memphisto> what does the dpkg -l systemd say
[21:15] <shifu> memphisto: i  systemd                                        229-4ubuntu6                 amd64                        system and service manager
[21:17] <memphisto> maybe you could try installing again and updateing grub after that
[21:17] <memphisto>  sudo apt-get install systemd libpam-systemd systemd-gui systemd-extra-units
[21:17] <shifu> memphisto: are you still there?
[21:18] <memphisto> yes
[21:18] <shifu> memphisto: i try, but why the sistem starts just using upstart option?
[21:19] <memphisto> i guess since you were using it before upgrade it defaulted to it
[21:19] <memphisto>       update-initramfs -u
[21:20] <shifu> memphisto: i rtied your command but i have :  immpossible to find ystemd-extra-units
[21:20] <memphisto> do update-initramfs -u, hopefully this will enable systemd
[21:20] <memphisto> skip that then
[21:21] <memphisto> and when you have all installed you should remove upstart, but this could render your system unbootable if systemd failes to work
[21:21] <memphisto> just to let you know
[21:23] <shifu> memphisto: i did update-initramfs -u, what i have to do now? Do I have to luanch another command or jsut reboot?
[21:23] <memphisto> reboot
[21:23] <memphisto> i think you should have in grub option htat says systemd as now you have upstart
[21:24] <shifu> memphisto: I try to see in grub.cfg ok?
[21:24] <memphisto> sure
[21:26] <shifu> memphisto: no memphisto, upstaret still remaing
[21:26] <shifu> memphisto: no systemd found
[21:26] <memphisto> run update-grub
[21:26] <memphisto> or update-grub2
[21:26] <memphisto> and check again
[21:28] <shifu> memphisto: nothing
[21:29] <shifu> memphisto: again
[21:29] <memphisto> ok then
[21:29] <memphisto> now
[21:29] <shifu> memphisto:  :-(
[21:29] <memphisto> This could render your system unbootable if we didn't get it correctly
[21:29] <memphisto> do apt remove upstart-sysv
[21:29] <memphisto> update-initramfs -u
[21:29] <memphisto> and reboot
[21:30] <jimarvan> hey peeps ^^
[21:30] <memphisto> and pray
[21:30] <shifu> memphisto: i would like to avoid to pray :-(
[21:31] <shifu> memphisto: are you sure ?
[21:31] <memphisto> well i think it should work, but you can never be 100% sure
[21:32] <shifu> memphisto: if the system shoudn.t start, what i shall do?
[21:33] <memphisto> there is a procedure on internet on how to boot from live cd and chroot to your installation
[21:33] <memphisto> and install upstart again
[21:33] <memphisto> i guess you should grab that and print it
[21:33] <memphisto> just in case
[21:35] <shifu> memphisto: i tried to removed upstart-sysv but apt said that it is not installed....
[21:36] <memphisto> apt search upstart
[21:36] <memphisto> what does it say
[21:36] <memphisto> better yet dpkg -l upstart*
[21:37] <shifu> memphisto: i have 6 rows
[21:38] <shifu> memphisto: the first: ii  upstart                                        1.13.2-0ubuntu21.1           amd64                        event-based init daemon - essential binaries
[21:38] <memphisto> ok , so you have it installed
[21:38] <memphisto> apt remove upstart*
[21:40] <shifu> memphisto: now it works
[21:40] <memphisto> reboot and i hope i get to see you with systemd soon
[21:41] <memphisto> update-initramfs -u firs
[21:41] <memphisto> t
[21:43] <shifu> memphisto: tnk for your time i try to reboot
[21:43] <memphisto> did you do update-initramfs -u
[21:44] <memphisto> if you did then go ahead an reboot
[21:44] <shifu> i did tnk
[21:44] <memphisto> great
[21:44] <memphisto> see you soon
[22:47] <FoxHunter> Yo!
[22:48] <bprompt> yo dawg, wassup in da hud
[22:48] <FoxHunter> chillin'
[22:48] <FoxHunter> had some bad ram
[22:48] <FoxHunter> so narrowed it down
[22:49] <bprompt> bad ram?   what you need is a good bull then
[22:49] <FoxHunter> I mean it not bad...works/etest perfect but when uised together with different brand even though all timing specs match
[22:49] <FoxHunter> it looks like it bad
[22:49] <bprompt> well, you can always run memtest on it
[22:52] <FoxHunter> not suppose to but no  way I could find same stuff
[22:52] <FoxHunter> I gues to do it right have ot order a whole new block
[22:52] <FoxHunter> it works for 7 years before I realized it
[22:52] <FoxHunter> but it's always been that way
[22:52] <FoxHunter> doh!
[22:53] <bprompt> hmmm  wha the?  then maybe it's not bad, or is bad and you think it isn't
[22:54] <FoxHunter> ya
[22:54] <FoxHunter> did mem test
[22:54] <FoxHunter> but I have to do them in pairs
[22:54] <FoxHunter>  good enough
[22:54] <FoxHunter> narrows it down enough
[22:54] <FoxHunter> it's NUMA
[22:55] <FoxHunter> so CPU0-DIMMA-1A then CPU1-DIMMB-1A
[22:55] <FoxHunter> is how they suppose to pair up
[22:55] <FoxHunter> for 128bit
[22:57] <FoxHunter> Win7 ran rock solid on Supermicro H8DCI AMD Opteron 265 with 8GB RAM (8x 1GB all banks filled per CPU).  But since linux or even freebsd it's glitchy
[22:57] <FoxHunter> something isn't right
[22:57] <FoxHunter> anywyas
[22:57] <FoxHunter> not sking for your uys hepl
[22:57] <FoxHunter> just rambling on I suppose
[22:57] <FoxHunter> I mean if someone knows sweet
[22:59] <bprompt> well, I'd say hmm  hmmm I'd side with linux on this one, it just so happen that windows7 has been able to work with it
[23:00] <FoxHunter> I hear ya on that one
[23:04] <FoxHunter> for the life of me searching I can't find how to verify a PCI-X cards speed.  For example I have Adaptec 2130slp scsi controller that says it's capable of "64-bit/133MHz PCI-X, or 3.3 volt only PCI"
[23:04] <FoxHunter> I have th ecard installed in a 133 PCI-X slot that is not being shared with another card to bring the speed down.
[23:04] <bprompt> FoxHunter:     I had XP working fine on  hmm what was it.. an old seagate hdd IIRC, anyhow, in linux when booting up, I started one day getting all kind of DRDY error messages.... so I booted up to XP, ran ok, back to linux, DRDY at bootup, so I hopped to XP, ran some chkdisk or something, and sure enough, it came up with bad clusters, though XP was working with it, just hadn't stumbled on one yet
[23:04] <FoxHunter> I just don't know in linux maybe "lshw" something dmidecode that shows what that 2130 card established speed is
[23:05] <Guest65581> i have "modprobe.blacklist=radeon" in the GRUB_CMD_LINUX_DEFAULT of my /etc/default/grub. Why does sudo lspci -vnn still show the radeon driver in use? I am using 16.04 and have done sudo-update grub and have rebooted.
[23:06] <FoxHunter> because they are PCI-X 100/133 slots
[23:06] <FoxHunter> bprompt; ya man
[23:06] <FoxHunter> I thought of that too
[23:07] <FoxHunter> so I did a disk verification in tyhe controller card where if there are bad sectors it permenantly marks them bad instead of relying on OS software.
[23:07] <FoxHunter> done at the lower lvl I like that
[23:07] <FoxHunter> but no errors
[23:07] <FoxHunter> guest; did you
[23:07] <FoxHunter> "update-grub"
[23:07] <FoxHunter> after editing the file
[23:07] <FoxHunter> dont' think so
[23:09] <bprompt> Guest65581:    yeap, try that, editing /etc/defaults/grub alone, doesn't take effect till you -> sudo update-grub
[23:09] <Guest65581> i did sudo update grub
[23:11] <Guest65581> and have rebooted since
[23:12] <bprompt> Guest65581:    hmmm dunno on blacklisting myself.... so.. not sure
[23:25] <user|80935> Why is not there any clarification or wrong illustrate through the use of the system as the ideal so easy to use the system for those who does not have a minimum background on this system
[23:25] <valorie> what?
[23:25] <valorie> user|80935: can you say what difficulty you are finding?
[23:26] <user|80935> iam in course for study os systems and more things now i must learn kubunto when i install it now i dont knew what i can do in it from start
[23:28] <user|80935> any one help me where i can learn about kubuntu 16.4 i dont knew any thing
[23:30] <bprompt> user|80935:    same as if you want to learn engineering, or say become an auto mechanic, you'd be a bit too pollyannish expecting a course on say automechanics to take just 6 months, or a course in engineering to take onlly 2 years
[23:30] <bprompt> user|80935:   learn about 16.04?   thought you were taking the course on OSes already?
[23:31] <user|80935> yes they will help me but i want to be fast in learing before they help
[23:31] <user|80935> my coure will contunie after week
[23:33] <bprompt> user|80935:     there are many articles and books on it, take a pick
[23:33] <user|80935> where do you knew any site or book name ??
[23:33] <OerHeks> good start http://docs.kubuntu.org/
[23:34] <bprompt> user|80935:    I dunno what else we can add, since you're not giving specifics anyway, to what many books material already cover
[23:34] <user|80935> thanks very much
[23:34] <user|80935> iam happy becuse you Listen فخ ةث ^_^
[23:34] <user|80935> to me ^_^
[23:35] <user|80935> wow that what i need Specifically thanks ^_^
[23:49] <valorie> hey folks, I'm trying to install Yakkety into a virtualbox, but the install of YY errors out pretty soon: http://imgur.com/xhye3Nc
[23:49] <valorie> I think I gave it at least 2 gigs
[23:50] <ahoneybun> thanks OerHeks
[23:50] <ahoneybun> that says root valorie
[23:51] <ahoneybun> oh guided is not work
[23:51] <ahoneybun> *working
[23:52] <valorie> http://imgur.com/N3TZbE4 is my partition screen
[23:53] <ahoneybun> odd that the guided looks broken
[23:53] <valorie> heck if I can figure out what to do next
[23:53] <OerHeks> seems like 8 gb device is too small
[23:53] <ahoneybun> valorie: what does manual do?
[23:54] <ahoneybun> unless the image is oversized
[23:54] <valorie> manual scares the heck out of me
[23:54] <ahoneybun> oh?
[23:54] <ahoneybun> well on a VM I guess
[23:54] <valorie> I don't want to wreck my one good machine.....
[23:54] <ahoneybun> well it is in a VM
[23:54] <valorie> I don't get why it's erroring
[23:54] <valorie> I understand that
[23:54] <ahoneybun> was there a bug on the qa page?
[23:54] <valorie> so why isn't it just installing?
[23:55] <valorie> no idea?
[23:55] <ahoneybun> not sure tbh
[23:55] <ahoneybun> is that our daily?
[23:55] <valorie> yes
[23:56] <ahoneybun> mm no one has a bug against the image
[23:57] <valorie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ is where I dl'd
[23:57] <ahoneybun> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/360/builds/124740/testcases
[23:57] <ahoneybun> so the installer made 3.5Gb but it then says it needs at least 4.5gb