[00:21] <nokT> newbie question: I copied some files (drag&dropped through visual file manager) from one drive to another, each from different systems.
[00:21] <nokT> browsing these files from an ordinary user account, I see some files restricted while I can read most of them... when was this permission set? How do I remove the read limit to every ordinary user? Can this be done recursively to a whole directory?
[00:26] <Bashing-om> nokT: ' sudo chown -R <user_name>:<user_name> <Path_of_Directory> ' . chown changes the owner of the directory and chmod allows you to change the permissions of the file or directory
[00:26] <Bashing-om> chown can change the file owner and/or the file group owner depending on the first argument of the command
[00:27] <Bashing-om> nokT: See: ' man chown ; man chmod ' .
[00:29] <Guest18616> hi guys
[00:30] <OerHeks> nokT, what filesystem may be important
[00:30] <Guest18616> im having a little problem with this hangman script im writing , was hoping someone could help me
[00:30] <Guest18616> first time on the chat, so im sorry for being a noob
[00:30] <Guest18616> until [ "empty_array[@]" == "secret_array[@]" ]  do           echo ${empty_array[@]}          echo -n ">"         read selection                   for ((j=0;j < "${#secret_array[*]}";j++)); do                  if       [ "$selection" == "${secret_array[j]}" ]                 then                         empty_array[j]="${secret_array[j]}"                  fi                 done done exit 0
[00:31] <Guest18616> when the program finds the correct word, in this example "france" it doesnt quit, even though i saw until they are equal
[00:31] <nokT> OerHeks, it's ext4
[00:31] <OerHeks> maybe #bash is a better place for scripting, this is ubuntu support.
[00:31] <Guest18616> oh ok thanks
[00:32] <nokT> btw, I had a dir owned by root, while logged as an ordinary user, I had r-x permissions for that dir... even though the w was not set, I was able to delete the dir which wasn't owned by me, why is that?
[00:33] <spase> good evening, i just reinstalled 16.04 and this weird bug keeps appearing, namely, almost all newly installed apps don't appear in the dash so i need to run them from terminal
[00:33] <spase> someone experiencing the same issue?
[00:48] <richard> nick snowrichard
[00:54] <pennTeller> Hi guys, anybody know why you cant resize windows after "snapping" them in Ubuntu Gnome?
[00:56] <goddard> pennTeller: Gnome developers do a lot of crazy things.  You would have to ask them.
[00:57] <pennTeller> goddard: so this is an intended behavior?
[01:04] <danny_> Us this a help room?
[01:04] <bazhang> ubuntu support yes danny_
[01:05] <danny_> ok, I'm very confused about windows managers
[01:05] <danny_> I want to switch to compton because I heard it can help with screen tearing on nvidia drivers
[01:05] <danny_> But I dunno how to switch
[01:06] <bazhang> !info compton
[01:07] <danny_> I downloaded wmctrl to check what wm I have active and even if I run compton it still shows metacity(marco) instead of compton
[01:07] <danny_> An I'm afraid weird things will happen If I try to run comton while having another wm active
[01:08] <bazhang> danny_, perhaos you mean compositor
[01:08] <bazhang> nautilus is the window manager
[01:08] <goddard> pennTeller: probably
[01:09] <danny_> I thought nautilus was the file explorer
[01:09] <goddard> pennTeller: i use kde/plasma so you would have to ask the gnome guys themselves or some one using the same version of gnome shell as you
[01:09] <pennTeller> goddard: yeah im asking in the gnome channel but nobody has answered yed, thank you
[01:10] <goddard> maybe try just ##linux
[01:10] <danny_> @bazhang I might mean compositor then, I don't really know so how do I check what compositor I have enabled?
[01:11] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144468 danny_
[01:11] <bazhang> read that link danny_
[01:13] <danny_> bazhang Thats what I followed to get to this point
[01:13] <nomic> nautilus = file manager
[01:14] <danny_> it improved screen tearing but didn't remove it, So I want to make sure I'm not layering compositors bazhang
[01:15] <bazhang> no idea past that link, sorry danny_
[01:15]  * nomic always installs nautilus
[01:15] <nomic> uses nautilus as file manager
[01:16] <danny_> thats fine, its gotta be possible to find out what compositor is running though
[01:17] <Ravness> Question, Has Ubuntu always been your distro? have you guys tried others??
[01:17] <danny_> nomic I'm probably gonna download nautilus, or Nemo.  Caja that came with ubuntu mate is straight garbage
[01:18] <bazhang> Ravness, #ubuntu-offtopic for polling, NOT here
[01:18] <danny_> Ravness, me?  I just started using ubuntu mate like a week ago so its about all I've used
[01:19] <danny_> I'm gonna switch back to windows pretty soon though
[01:19] <Ravness> may i ask why?
[01:19] <Ravness> I dual booted ubuntu and win 10
[01:20] <bazhang> !ot | Ravness
[01:20] <danny_> Windows 10 beats linux in compatibility which is kinda the only point of an operating system
[01:20] <Ravness> !register
[01:20] <bazhang> danny_, and Ravness please take the chit chat elsewhere
[01:21] <Ravness> ah :/
[01:22] <JacobKlear> It is worth it to change a hdd by a ssd drive? Can I ask this here?
[01:23] <bazhang> JacobKlear, why not ##hardware
[01:23] <JacobKlear> thanks bazhang
[01:24] <bazhang> welcome
[01:24] <danny_> Next question, what is the difference between a compositor and windows manager?  And which is Metacity(marco)?
[01:25] <bazhang> danny_, why are you adding marco to that
[01:25] <bazhang> danny_, is this MINT
[01:25] <danny_> I don't know they always seem to be together whenever I google it and wmctrl -m returns Metacity (marco)
[01:25] <danny_> I'm using ubuntu mate
[01:26] <bazhang> !info metacity
[01:26] <Metacity> Or me.
[01:27] <danny_> bazhang, I just looked it up, marco is a fork of metacity
[01:27] <danny_> Metacity do you know anything about your namesake?
[01:28] <JacobKlear> bazhang: Hey man, I can't "send" to hardware... what do i need to do?
[01:29] <bazhang> JacobKlear, could be need to register, try #freenode for help doing that
[01:29] <JacobKlear> thanks again bazhang
[01:30] <danny_> Would it be a bad Idea to kill Metacity(marco)?
[01:30] <Metacity> Yes, it would be really bad to kill me!
[01:30] <Metacity> :P
[01:30] <danny_> Metacity I may have to, I want to watch youtube without screentearing
[01:31]  * Metacity goes to find a broadsword.
[01:31] <JacobKlear> How can I upgrade to 16.04 from 14.04?
[01:32] <JacobKlear> without starting from scratch
[01:32] <danny_> And what will happen if I kill Metacity? will I go to a blackscreen with a terminal?
[01:33] <Metacity> You will lose your window decorations (title bars, etc.).
[01:34] <eggggs> JacobKlear , you have ati vid card ?
[01:34] <danny_> I'm having a hard time understanding this, so Mate is a desktop environment which runs Metacity(Marco) right?
[01:34] <Metacity> Correct.
[01:34] <bazhang> danny_, is this a one time watch of a youtube vid or repeated watches
[01:34] <JacobKlear> eggggs: No I don't have one of those... I have an intel processor that runs graphics too...
[01:35] <danny_> bazhang, its everything tearing when scrolling down in webbrowsers, moving windows, switching workspaces
[01:35] <eggggs> good, ati no bueno for  16.04
[01:35] <danny_> bazhang straight diagonal from top right to bottom left
[01:35] <bazhang> danny_, whats the video card, and what driver, how did you install the driver for it
[01:36] <dax> ati (although it's called amd this decade) works fine in 16.04. it's fglrx that doesn't.
[01:36] <dax> though fglrx has always been crap so
[01:36] <JacobKlear> eggggs: But i did apt upgrade and it doesnt do the trick
[01:37] <bazhang> danny_, are you trying to use the propietary fglrx with that, is it an amd card
[01:37] <danny_> bazhang, its the proprietary driver from Nvidia: 361.42 from nvidia-361
[01:37] <danny_> I also have an internal intel graphics card I believe
[01:37] <bazhang> danny_, whats the card make and model
[01:37] <dax> JacobKlear: 16.04 isn't offered to 14.04 users until 16.04.1 comes out. Use sudo do-release-upgrade -d if you don't want to wait that long.
[01:37] <danny_> Quadro 1000M
[01:38] <bazhang> danny_, have you run the simple test of downloading a youtube video and trying to run it with vlc, smplayer or the like
[01:39] <danny_> bazhang, I have not, I'll try that
[01:39] <JacobKlear> dax: thanks a lot :-*
[01:41] <asap> Hello How do I link my wireless information that I obtained from Chili555's wifi info code?
[01:42] <danny_> bazhang, still screen tearing
[01:45] <JacobKlear> Guys, do you know how can I reduce the brightness from terminal?
[01:49] <JacobKlear> sorry, it's already on askubuntu
[01:49] <asap> I am trying to get this Broadcom BCM 4318 [AirForce One 54g] wireless LAN controller to work, I have the output from the code in this thread ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2214110 that I would like to share with someone in hopes of recieving assistance in fixing this issue . Thank You All.
[01:52] <asap> Oh sorry I am using a fresh install of 16.04
[01:56] <danny_> bazhang, I'm gonna kill Marco, wish me luck
[01:57] <danny_> OH GOD
[01:58] <danny_> this is bad
[01:59] <danny_> ls
[01:59] <danny_> How do I get to a terminal without a window manager?
[01:59] <danny_> I should not have killed marco
[02:00] <JacoBKL> danny_: CTRL+T
[02:00] <danny_> well, I have terminals open, I jsut cant click on them to focus them
[02:00] <danny_> luckily this window is on top
[02:01] <rocketeer> So I'm trying to get python to interface with sound in ubuntu with the instructions found here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6487180/synthesize-musical-notes-with-piano-sounds-in-python
[02:01] <JacoBKL> ;)
[02:01] <danny_> I'm probably just gonna restart it
[02:02] <rocketeer> But it doesn't work and doesn't give me usefull errors. Furthermore, running "fluidsynth -a alsa /usr/share/sounds/sf2/FluidR3_GM.sf2 example.mid" does properly play example.mid, so I have the right .sfw
[02:02] <rocketeer> .sf2* sorry
[02:03] <rocketeer> But running "fluidsynth.init('/usr/share/sounds/sf2/FluidR3_GM.sf2', "alsa") fluidsynth.play_Note(64,1,100)" in python silently fails
[02:08] <danny_> Ok, I guess I'll just live with screen tearing
[02:08] <danny_> I learned not to kill marco
[02:10] <gti> ola galera
[02:15] <JacoBKL> danny_: that's a good lesson
[02:17] <danny_> JacoBKL he was asking for it, I learned compton cannot replace him though
[02:17] <danny_> windows manager != compositor
[02:20] <danny_> Oh, I figured it out
[02:20] <danny_> for anybody who wants to know
[02:21] <danny_> In mate_tweak You can easily change to compton
[02:21] <danny_> its a simple menu item
[02:22] <danny_> still some screen tearing but way better
[02:23] <JacoBKL> awesome!
[02:52] <WhiteNight> Hi, is this Channel (or IRC) blocked/banned from certain IPs? I was on a Private VPN and it just wouldn't connect (or shall I move my question to offtopic?)
[02:54] <dax> WhiteNight: freenode and #ubuntu both block various providers due to abuse. #ubuntu-ops or #freenode should be able to figure out details (the latter requires waiting for voice)
[02:54] <user> Hi , Why this process "mysqld" running on my ubuntu 16.04 ? it is consuming the memory.
[02:54] <user> 848864 K of the memory
[02:54] <WhiteNight> dax, thank you sir!
[03:14] <lnb> after ubuntu 14.04 update with kernel update, reboot system. After post, screen says to put in bootable disk.
[03:14] <lnb> boot to bios, shows 2 drives
[03:18] <cncr04s> did you update-grub ?
[03:19] <cncr04s> if the bios says to insert a bootable disk it means there is no os on it, so something got screwed up
[03:21] <lnb> cncr04s: no
[03:21] <lnb> cncr04s: update grub, no. Ubuntu ran the update like normal, and then rebooted. Then came blank screen
[03:23] <lnb> i had originally install ubuntu 14.04 server, then added desktop. About year.5 ago. System has 2 drive raid 1
[03:28] <shinobu_> hgf
[03:34] <silver-dragon> does any one know if there is a way to create a storage space that spans multiple disks in ubuntu. With redundancy. A software raid like Windows Storage Spaces.
[03:35] <SchrodingersScat> !zfs | silver-dragon
[03:36] <silver-dragon> I know about zfs but I was wanting something a little more scalable and user friendly. ZFS has the same sort of limitations on scaling as hardware raid.
[03:36] <SchrodingersScat> !info glusterfs | silver-dragon
[03:37] <SchrodingersScat> !info glusterfs-server | silver-dragon
[03:39] <silver-dragon> Thanks I will take a look in to glusterfs
[03:51] <SchrodingersScat> !info tahoe-lafs | silver-dragon
[03:53] <silver-dragon> can you span disks and make redundancy with LVM? From what I am reading it sounds like there is some basic software raid in the kernel.
[03:59] <qengho> silver-dragon: Sure you can. It's not bad. Also consider ZFS, which takes a little effort effort up front, but works quite well, perhaps better.
[04:00] <sponix> qengho: For the basic day to day operations ZFS is wicked simple in my humble opinion..
[04:02] <qengho> sponix: agreed. I tried to make it first-class fs for desktop 16.04, but the installer was too far behind to make the release.
[04:04] <Neuthrone> How do I install themes onto Ubuntu, nothing has seemed to work for me. The Unity Tweak Tool does not detect the theme I put in the theme folder.
[04:04] <sponix> qengho: That is a shame.. Other than soaking up a lot of ram ZFS is pretty awesome.. I normally find it hard to get excited about a File System.. But even being able to run at good speeds while scrubbing is sweet
[04:05] <xangua> Neuthrone: and what theme did you put on your .themes directory?
[04:06] <Neuthrone> xangua: I put the the Plane GTK3.6 theme on the .themes folder. I got it from the Ubuntu Themes site.
[04:06] <xangua> The Ubuntu themes site?
[04:07] <Neuthrone> xangua: http://www.ubuntuthemes.org/
[04:07] <xangua> And 3.6 seems rather old, current gtk is 3.20 I believe
[04:07] <qengho> sponix: I think it might get 32-bit support soon (as in, enough people use what's already there that it has some precedent and can be turned on) that it won't muddy the installer descriptions and be more of an obvious feature to have.
[04:07] <Neuthrone> xangua: How do I get this theme to work though?
[04:09] <xangua> Neuthrone: I see the theme was latest updated a year ago, so doubt it works with a recent Ubuntu release https://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Plane-Gtk3.6?content=156309
[04:09] <Neuthrone> xangua: So which theme would work? Only ones that are GTK1 related?
[04:10] <xangua> To get it to "work" you'll have to learn gtk theming and dealing with every new gtk 3 release to constantly breaking theming support
[04:10] <xangua> I doubt you use any gtk1 stuff...
[04:11] <Neuthrone> xangua: Okay, so how do I work with these themes though?
[04:11] <silver-dragon> Is there any advantage to running ZFS on a single disk system like a laptop?
[04:12] <xangua> Neuthrone: use a more recent theme or learn yourself to theme gnome-look.org
[04:12] <phc> one drive only?
[04:12] <lnb> tried boot-repair-disk, after it ran, displays reboot computer, but it still does same thing and only shows flashing prompt after post
[04:12] <Neuthrone> xangua: Thank you for your help.
[04:13] <sponix> silver-dragon: On a powerful laptop it might be Okay.. You would gain File System snapshots and a few other neat tricks.. But for regular use plain old ext4 will probably do the best
[04:21] <paranoidabhi> hi
[04:21] <paranoidabhi> I wanted to test the new kernel http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.7-rc6-yakkety/ for 64 bit system. Which packages should I install?
[04:22] <paranoidabhi> I went through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds but it is a bit confusing.
[04:22] <sponix> paranoidabhi: Their is probably a PPA for that..
[04:22] <paranoidabhi> sponix, ppa for the kernel?
[04:23] <sponix> Likely..
[04:23] <paranoidabhi> Not sure. Can you link
[04:24] <sponix> You NEED 4.7 ?
[04:25] <paranoidabhi> sponix, yeah
[04:26] <paranoidabhi> trying this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1588428/comments/12
[04:27] <sponix> paranoidabhi: Well the Official kernel PPA is only covering 4.4.x .. And I found a manual install of 4.6.x .. But nothing published on 4.7 popped up.. Not saying it doesn't exist, my Google-FU is a bit weak  :P
[04:27] <sponix> paranoidabhi: Probably doesn't help that I started drinking early too
[04:34] <lnb> tried 14.04.4 ubuntu server install dvd, both install and rescue. Goes to screen to select language and then locks up at that point.
[04:35] <lnb> any idea what might be causing this and how to get around it?
[04:37] <sponix> lnb: Ubuntu 16.04 is the "New Hotness" did you think about trying it out to see if you get the same issue ??
[04:45] <xanax10667> anybody on
[04:46] <xanax10667> seem so blank
[04:46] <deceit> xanax will do that to you
[04:47] <xanax10667> for what reasons
[04:47] <Bashing-om> xanax10667: Got nothing to say. say nothing .
[04:47] <deceit> ^speaks volumes, w/o saying anything
[04:47] <xanax10667> 35835032
[04:52] <paranoidabhi> how to install 4.7 on ubuntu system ?
[04:52] <paranoidabhi> 64-bit system
[04:54] <lnb> sponix: no I haven
[04:54] <lnb> sponix: no I haven't
[04:55] <lnb> downloading 16.04 now
[04:57] <lnb> it just seems very strange when booting to dvd install disk, selected either rescue or install and both freeze at same point (language selection)
[04:59] <sponix> lnb: That is odd.. What hardware are you on ?
[04:59] <lnb> i was away for 2 weeks but vpn'd into the box. Upon return today, screen displayed the usual Ubuntu software update. Ran it and upon rebooting, it would not reboot to ubuntu
[05:00] <lnb> it has intel mother board, i7 proc, 4 x 4gb memory
[05:01] <Bashing-om> lnb: Maybe a GUI graphic's driver issue ... 16.04 might fo the better . We will see.
[05:01] <sponix> lnb: What graphics Card is in there ?
[05:01] <Joral> I finally got an xorg.conf file that properly sets the mode lines for my monitor, but now if I run something that is processor intensive the screen will flash once and then lock up.  Not even ctl-alt-del will allow me to reboot, I have to hold the power button.
[05:01] <lnb> no extra graphics card
[05:01] <lnb> just what is on intel mother board
[05:02] <Bashing-om> !raid | lnb
[05:04] <lnb> raid 1
[05:05] <sponix> Joral: to Kill and respawn "X" (the GUI) in Linux it is Normally CTRL+ALT+Backspace (not CTRL+ALT+DEL)..
[05:05] <lnb> i used Boot-Repair-Disk and it ran OK and said to reboot after it completed. but it did same, doesnt boot to ubuntu
[05:05] <lnb> https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/
[05:06] <Joral> sponix, what I was saying is that everything goes dead.  ctl-alt-backspace will not kill x and ctl-alt-del will not reboot either.  Its like all controls go dead.
[05:07] <sponix> Joral: That always sucks
[05:07] <Joral> the screen just keeps flashing like x is trying to reload or recover
[05:08] <sponix> Joral: Could it be a Heat problem ?
[05:08] <mary222> so i started this relationship with this guy online. but he only texts me once a day. but this text is extremely intense. then i fall into despair because i don't hear from him till the next day. what can i do?
[05:09] <lnb> sponix: would you recommend a rescue (if it has it) or install ?
[05:09] <Joral> sponix, possible but highly unlikely, I had this system running gentoo a week ago, but the compile times were killing me and ubuntu caught up to the 4.2 ppc kernel so I could have sound again so I switched
[05:09] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> Hello nobody speak french please ? i have a false system on my computer,this is not a real linux,that s away i thinks a windows or a stupid game on web,long time i m alone and nothing speak
[05:09] <sponix> mary222: Masturbate
[05:10] <mary222> sponix: i'm in love with him
[05:10] <sponix> lnb: Depends on how important your current OS install is.. I recommend a fresh install if you _need_ one, and a rescue if your configuration or Data is very important to you ..
[05:11] <sponix> mary222: Masturbate Furiously !
[05:14] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> no that s really complicated,all support is fake,i know my computer and i see my bios this is a video game not my real os,i dont know who lie in my country,but i know that s fake,i have a background windows 10 on my linux,it s fake,and it s fake it s fake away...
[05:16] <lnb> sponix: it got passed the point using rescue with 16
[05:16] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> i have many false device
[05:17] <sponix> lnb: Glad to hear that
[05:21] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> real human here ?
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> BiGrEgGaErOoTs: yes
[05:21] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> moi aussi
[05:22] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> je crois
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> BiGrEgGaErOoTs: do you have an ubuntu question?
[05:23] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> yes no
[05:25] <tih> hello
[05:25] <tih> somebody read my message?
[05:26] <freecoder_> tih: can you post it again?
[05:26] <tih> just a 'hello' lol
[05:26] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> i have a false system...long time many years....i m alone,isolated ,people joke on me,i m tried,i dont give a show,it s crazy,i live in bag a lie,i m crazy for all
[05:27] <freecoder_> BiGrEgGaErOoTs: use ubuntu :)
[05:27] <tih> freecoder, which IRC do you use in Ubuntu ?
[05:27] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> ubuntu kubunu xuibuntu toutou linux....etc....etc...ALLL SYSTEM IS FAKE FOR ME !
[05:27] <phc> lol
[05:27] <freecoder_> tih: hexchat
[05:28] <phc> omenserve with autoget
[05:28] <tih> hexchat has the 'reply' function?
[05:28] <freecoder_> 'reply' function?
[05:28] <tih> i mean, reply somebody
[05:28] <hiexpo> quit whinning
[05:29] <freecoder_> yes. all irc client have that afaik
[05:29] <hiexpo> maybe windows is good for you than BiGrEgGaErOoTs
[05:30] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> Mais c'est normal que ici je passe pour un fou si ce je dis est vrai,forcément a part me prendre pour un con j ai pas a attendre bien plus....et mon linux est faux,j ai craké windows 10 il arrive pas a trouver le bug et quand il change de session il le transporte sur ce systeme qui me prouve que je n ai juste que l interface qui cchange
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !ot | BiGrEgGaErOoTs
[05:31] <drama> !france
[05:31] <dax> and putting them both together and dispensing with the factoid spam, #ubuntu-fr-offtopic ;)
[05:33] <phc> nice fellow there
[05:39] <colby_> i'm new to linux, could someone point me in the direction of a good linux learning manual that a non-programmer could understand?
[05:40] <Ben64> !manual | colby_
[05:40] <paranoidabhi> I installed linux 4.7 kernel on my ubuntu. How do I remove it? The latest kernel for my distro is 4.4
[05:40] <colby_> i'm looking for something more in depth that will help learn the basics but teach me more advanced things as well.
[05:41] <hateball> paranoidabhi: how did you install it?
[05:41] <cfhowlett> colby narrow your focus.  learn WHAT exactly?
[05:42] <hateball> colby_: The usual tip is to set out to solve a problem, then learn as you go
[05:42] <Ben64> colby_: have you even looked at that manual
[05:42] <fletcher_> anyone up to helping me with a Glx issue?
[05:42] <Ben64> paranoidabhi: theres no way for us to know. undo what you did...?
[05:42] <colby_> i guess the ins and outs of the guts. like really learning how to use the terminal and its commands.
[05:43] <Ben64> look at the manual ubottu linked to you
[05:43] <cfhowlett> colby_, search for "the linxu command line".  free download. and yes, see the !manual as well.
[05:43] <cfhowlett> !ask | fletcher_,
[05:44] <fletcher_> I Get this message anytime I try to run any of my Games "opengl glx extension not supported by display "
[05:44] <hiexpo> !opengl
[05:44] <fletcher_> !opengl
[05:45] <paranoidabhi> hateball, Ben64 This is what I installed http://paste.ubuntu.com/18504669/.
[05:45] <fletcher_> lol it's a bot
[05:45] <paranoidabhi> I am paranoid about wildcards, I messed up my system before.
[05:45] <colby_> @cfhowlett thanks for that
[05:45] <Ben64> paranoidabhi: you ought to be
[05:46] <Ben64> fletcher_: sounds like you don't have a driver running for your gpu that supports 3d acceleration
[05:46] <paranoidabhi> what is a safe way to uninstall?
[05:46] <hiexpo> exactly what video card you have
[05:46] <cfhowlett> colby_, happy2help!
[05:47] <Ben64> paranoidabhi: dpkg -r <package>
[05:47] <fletcher_> Ben I do have the correct drivers installed. I'm running an AMD gpu and it currently runs off the AMDGPu driver as that's the only AMD driver on 16.04
[05:47] <hiexpo> !amd
[05:47] <colby_> @hateball that's kind of what i've been doing, but i figured i'd ask because i various concepts are just not coming together.
[05:47] <fletcher_> Ben64, ^
[05:48] <Ben64> fletcher_: run this, give url here... "lshw -C VIDEO | nc termbin.com 9999"
[05:48] <fnodeuser> colby_: the @ character is not needed, this is not twitter
[05:48] <deceit> @fnodeuser #tellmeaboutit #irc #woahnottwitter
[05:48] <deceit> @rt
[05:49] <hiexpo> get the amd catalast from amd site
[05:49] <fletcher_> Ben64, http://termbin.com/fhh4
[05:49] <Joral> fletcher_, I am still running the radeon driver on 16.04, I'm not saying that its the one that you need, but both open source drivers still exist in 16.04
[05:49] <paranoidabhi> Ben64, a bit more specific if possible.
[05:50] <Joral> hiexpo, the new kernel api for drivers no longer supports fglrx so CCC is not an option on 16.04
[05:50] <fletcher_> Well i've tried the radon driver as well. I did something to mess up Mesa i think
[05:50] <hiexpo> oh okay
[05:50] <dax> and even when it was, getting it from AMD's site was not supported here
[05:50] <reev> Hii, how can i install google chrome not chromium in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[05:50] <fnodeuser> what?
[05:50] <deceit> i was just asserting your statement
[05:50] <fletcher_> reev you'll have to download it from the google site and install the .deb file
[05:51] <deceit> that this isn't twitter
[05:51] <fnodeuser> oh, ok :P
[05:51] <reev> fletcher_ I tried but it returns errors while trying to unpack ,I also made some changes to sources.list file
[05:51] <deceit> they do that on other channels here on freenode as well
[05:51] <fnodeuser> yes
[05:52] <deceit> it's really odd
[05:52] <fletcher_> reev I used it myself. so dunno
[05:52] <qengho> reeed: Google distributes Google Chrome. You download a "deb" file and install it, and it alters your software manager to get updates automatically.
[05:52] <fnodeuser> with linux he will start exploring and he will learn
[05:52] <fletcher_> !xorgconf
[05:53] <qengho> reev: What architecutre is your computer?
[05:53] <qengho> reev: Erase the downloaded "deb" file and retry.
[05:53] <fnodeuser> he left, so i guess he won't learn anything after all
[05:53] <fnodeuser> :P
[05:53] <hiexpo> lol
[05:53] <fnodeuser> :)
[05:54] <Joral> fnodeuser, yeah he will, it will just be the hard way :P
[05:54] <fnodeuser> ha :P
[05:54] <todd> I have a large collection of videos that I would like to stream from my ubuntu server to all of my PC's what should I use?
[05:54] <hiexpo> sink or swim
[05:55] <hiexpo> so you want a media server ?
[05:55] <reev> qengho amd64
[05:55] <reev> qengho where i can find original sources.list file for ubuntu 16.04 apt-get update too failed
[05:55] <Triffid_Hunter> todd: I find samba works great for that, or sshfs if your network is stable.. some purists might suggest nfs but I've played with that for years and it's always caused problems
[05:56] <Joral> todd, personal preference here so take it with a grain of salt, but I would look into Kodi
[05:56] <todd> Triffid_Hunter: No I want streaming, some of these videos are huge!
[05:56] <fletcher_> tried something but it didn't work
[05:57] <hiexpo> see i use my router for that wrt 1900
[05:57] <Triffid_Hunter> todd: ... yes
[05:57] <hiexpo> off a usb
[05:57] <todd> Triffid_Hunter: samba and ssh deal with raw files, not streaming media
[05:58] <fletcher_> I'm ariad I'll have to reinstall
[05:59] <Joral> todd, Kodi offers a client/server architecture with clients available for most OSs including android
[05:59] <Triffid_Hunter> todd: what's the difference between what you're talking about and playing a file direct from a network-mounted filesystem?
[05:59] <todd> Joral: Kodi looks like what I am looking for but I do not have gui access to the server
[06:00] <Joral> todd, I don't believe you need it but that would be a question for Kodi support
[06:01] <defekt> todd, or check out plex has a webserver UI
[06:01] <todd> Triffid_Hunter: Streaming = Transcoding the data (IE: only sending limited resolution on a small device, or reducing bandwith needs if the connection is slow). File shares is shareing well files... HUGE differance
[06:01] <andreas_> hi
[06:01] <todd> dekekt: I THOUGHT plex was non free???
[06:02] <Triffid_Hunter> todd: ah, I've never played with transcoding on the fly, my phone has a 1080p screen and plays anything I throw at it
[06:02] <Guest41667> hi
[06:02] <defekt> it's free unless you want to stream to andriod or idevice (you will have to refer to the website)
[06:02] <Guy1524> hey guys, this is really frustrating, on a laptop w/ integrated graphx and ubuntu 16.04, source games feel extremely choppy and low on framerate even when the framerate is well above the refresh rate.  This happens with vsync on and off
[06:03] <todd> Triffid_Hunter: so have you tried playing a 4k 3d video on your phone? I bet it will be laggy
[06:03] <Triffid_Hunter> todd: nope, don't have any
[06:04] <todd> Triffid_Hunter: well then my current smb set up would work for you... thanks though
[06:05] <andreas__> hi
[06:06] <dream_x> hello
[06:09] <Joral> sponix, simply running top in lxterminal caused x to crash again.  Any thoughts as to what could be wrong?
[06:10] <sponix> Joral: Are you running any bleeding Edge (Edgers) X from a PPA or anything ?
[06:10] <Guy1524> ugh, I have asked my question many times today but nobody answers ):
[06:10] <Joral> sponix, nope, fresh install with nothing fancy
[06:11] <Joral> only thing I have touched is the xorg.conf to get the monitor resolutions to work
[06:11] <sponix> Joral: Tested system stability off of a LiveDVD ?
[06:12] <Joral> sponix, yes, just installed three days ago and installer ran fine. problems started when I installed X on this system
[06:13] <sponix> Joral: What type of Graphics Card ?
[06:13] <k_sze[work]> Could somebody take a look at this: https://wiki.debian.org/chroot#A.2Fproc
[06:13] <k_sze[work]> The bad grammar makes it read like nonsense.
[06:13] <Joral> sponix, built in radeon 9200 (rv280)
[06:14] <qengho> k_sze[work]: I bet someone in #debian could fix it.
[06:15] <k_sze[work]> ugh, I kept thinking that's the ubuntu wiki. My bad.
[06:15] <sponix> Joral: Are you partial to Ubuntu ? You might try either a Clean Install of the Ubuntu Desktop Version, OR hopping around to a few other Distro's and see if they give better results.. At times certain configurations can be detected and ran better on different setups..
[06:16] <Grorco> Hello World!
[06:16] <Joral> sponix, no other distros besides gentoo provide support for ppc. and I did not find a desktop spin of ubuntu for ppc
[06:17] <sponix> Joral: Why on earth are you running a PPC ?
[06:17] <sponix> Joral: I'm wondering if "Yellow Dog" Linux still exists ..
[06:18] <Joral> sponix, yellowdog no longer exists and this G4 emac was given to me so of course I'm going to put it to use :P
[06:19] <sponix> Joral: Okay.. I give you props for that.. Might check FreeBSD or NetBSD to see if they are still active on PPC.. I know a lot of *nix flavors are dropping it due to the Age..
[06:20] <Joral> sponix, as I said the two distros that still "offer" support for ppc are ubuntu and gentoo
[06:20] <sponix> Joral: I had a friend with an eMac/iMac in College and we had Yellow Dog running on it back then
[06:21] <sergioad> Hello friends here anoying you with another gamepads question
[06:21] <Joral> sponix, ok so debian I believe still offers support as well but thats still going to be the same issues as ubuntu
[06:21] <sponix> Joral: likely
[06:21] <logeshwaran> hello world
[06:22] <Grorco> hi
[06:22] <logeshwaran> hi
[06:22] <Gooer> hi from kenya
[06:22] <logeshwaran> im from india
[06:22] <Joral> sponix, the other issue is that since I don't have a firewire hdd the only method I can use to try a new distro is to boot from cd which makes the gues and check method very expensive lol
[06:23] <logeshwaran> i
[06:23] <sergioad> could / would a GameSir G3S bluetooth gamepad work with Ubuntu + XBOXDRV using the mimic xpad and mimic xpad wireles options?
[06:23] <logeshwaran> i am using this only now so i cant
[06:24] <antler> installed 16.04 on a 14.04 that would not boot. After 16.04 installed, rebooted, ubuntu server doesn't boot. Just flashing cursor. Put in install dvd, ran rescue and now have shell open on / which is a raid. Tried to reinstall grub to 1st disk /dev/sda but it fails.
[06:25] <antler> Tried reinstall grub before going into shell obviously
[06:25] <antler> so it seems grub is messed up. How to fix this?
[06:27] <sponix> Joral: http://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/macppc/
[06:28] <sponix> Joral: Not 100% sure it will do ANY Better, BUT NetBSD is still doing PPC.. Given the install and so forth is probably still a bit rough compared to Linux though
[06:28] <Tin_man> antler if it is a grub problem, try this tool: http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[06:28] <sponix> Joral: Outside of that, I'm pretty much stumped.. Almost wish I had one of those to play with.. Think my Father may still have one in the Attic
[06:29] <Tin_man> you can download it from your live dvd ..
[06:29] <Grorco> Hi I want to report a bug for my wifi + bluetooth card, it gets hard locked on suspend but I'm not sure where to file hardware bugs...
[06:29] <Joral> sponix, I know that this isn't the powermac channel and I am able/willing to play around with it so if you were looking at a similar issue on x86 what would you think it might be?
[06:30] <Grorco> Also it's a propriatary driver so I'm not sure if I would have to get ahold of bcm somehow
[06:30] <abhvl> hi
[06:31] <Grorco> hi
[06:31] <Joral> sponix, also if you do get it from him i will give you my xorg.conf to fix the modeline issues you will have with the new driver
[06:31] <sponix> Joral: I might try renaming the xorg.conf file to have it "generate" a fresh one and see if helps at all
[06:32] <sponix> Joral: Is there an "Older" X driver that might be more Stable ?
[06:32] <Joral> sponix, modern x doesn't use an xorg.conf file so it wont generate one
[06:33] <qengho> Generate a xorg.conf? Does it write one, or use sane defaults when a file is missing?
[06:33] <sponix> Joral: Hmm, it appears my Linux knowledge is getting dated as we speak :P
[06:33] <Joral> sponix, i'm not sure how to look at version numbers in apt
[06:33] <Joral> sponix, lol, you aren't the only one
[06:33] <qengho> $ dpkg -l foo |cat
[06:34] <sponix> Joral: So let me get this straight.. X Loads, then it crashes ? Or does it do okay until you start running a few things ?
[06:34] <boodllebat> i just install manpages-posix-dev
[06:34] <Joral> sponix, x loads and I can log in etc, but as soon as I do anything to put a load on the system the screen becomes a blinking light
[06:34] <boodllebat> and when i do man sys/types.h , i never finds it
[06:35] <sergioad> friends anybody uses a GameSir G3S gamepad?
[06:35] <qengho> Joral: "apt policy packagename" is one of the best ways to inspect versions installed and available.
[06:35] <paranoidabhi> hi!
[06:35] <paranoidabhi> I am stuck at this bug for long. Any suggestions https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1588428
[06:35] <boodllebat> what package should i install to get manual pages for all the types which are supported and how to look them ?
[06:35] <paranoidabhi> any more debugging output I should etc.
[06:35] <paranoidabhi> should *add etc
[06:36] <Joral> qengho, so if installed matches candidate I am running the most current stable version?
[06:37] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: you will be told if you need to add something.
[06:37] <qengho> Joral: Very likely. There are other factors that you could have added, but if you didn't every type "pin" anywhere, and you have run "apt update" to learn contemporary versions, then you're fine.
[06:38] <sponix> Joral: Might try another Desktop Environment (DE) such as xubuntu-desktop.. And might try a few Alternative cooling solutions also, just to make sure it isn't a thermal issue..
[06:38] <qengho> boodllebat: $ dpkg -L manpages-posix-dev |grep types; echo ah hah; man sys_types.h
[06:39] <Joral> sponix, problem there is I can't run plasma or gnome as I don't have hardware acceleration and I was running lxde specifically to try and keep the footprint small.  Any suggestions on another lightweight DE to try?
[06:40] <paranoidabhi> I am new to ubuntu. Can sum1 tell how this would? They would fix and I would receive it in updates? So will I receive a separate package to install.
[06:40] <paranoidabhi> I noticed a similar bug pending for long https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1521173 which makes me paranoid about the fix.
[06:40] <sponix> Joral: XFCE -- Xubuntu is fairly light.. Not AS light as lxde
[06:40] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: it will come through updates if it is fixed.
[06:41] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, will it notified in the bugreport comments?
[06:41] <qengho> paranoidabhi: I do not think you specially would receive a package delivered on a platter, but everyone will receive fixes when they are applied to Ubuntu.
[06:41] <Joral> what is the name of the Xorg meta package?
[06:41] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: the status will be changed to "fix released"
[06:42] <qengho> ... in Ubuntu package. Upstream bug links are not
[06:42] <qengho> not always soon before Ubuntu updates.
[06:43] <paranoidabhi> qengho, okay, would I need to check the fix to make sure it is fixed.
[06:43] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: obviously.
[06:44] <paranoidabhi> is there eta for such fixes normally?
[06:44] <qengho> paranoidabhi: Yes, watch the bug report. Sign up for notifications to changes on bugs.launchpad.net
[06:44] <sergioad> anybody knows?
[06:45] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: no, you've already been told all this before. all you can do is watch the bugreport and keep testing new mainline kernels.
[06:45] <boodllebat> qengho: there are many datatypes which i dont know where they are located how could i know about them ? like ssize_t and many more , Thanks for replying
[06:45] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, okay thanks. :)
[06:45] <qengho> paranoidabhi: Whenever It's Ready™. You can't expect someone to commit to you for a fix. Sorry for uncertainty.
[06:46] <qengho> boodllebat: $ ack-grep "define ssize_t /usr/include"
[06:47] <qengho> boodllebat: Move that last  "  to after _t .
[06:48] <FredTheNoob> hi there guys, I'm wondering if c# project made on ubuntu and monodevelop could run on windows... if anybody knows, sorry if that thing isn't for this chan
[06:49] <drama> FredTheNoob, It's all moving to Net Core google it
[06:49] <FredTheNoob> Thks drama!
[06:49] <boodllebat> qengho: i did this ack-grep "define size_t" /usr/include but it did not gave me the defination of size_t
[06:51] <FredTheNoob> I have installed Net Core and VS Code, but I have not Idea, how to do that thing...
[06:51] <qengho> boodllebat: Ah. What syscall do you need size_t for?
[06:52] <boodllebat> qengho: i was just somebody's source and he used it i just want to know what is that type actually
[06:52] <drama> FredTheNoob, get Visual Core and write something
[06:53] <FredTheNoob> drama that thing is like gedit
[06:54] <drama> FredTheNoob, install plugins for the language you want like the how to's say
[06:54] <boodllebat> reading
[06:55] <FredTheNoob> k drama, thks
[06:55] <Grorco> anyone know a good apt for hardware/ system info?
[06:56] <abhvl> sysinfo
[06:56] <abhvl> Grorco, ^
[06:56] <Grorco> adhvl: it keeps crashing on me when I goto use it :(
[06:56] <nils_> Grorco, lshw
[06:56] <boodllebat> qengho: okay it is declared as typedef so i can find about it if i get to grep a statement like typedef *(wildcard) size_t
[06:57] <abhvl> Grorco, hardinfo. more here http://www.howtogeek.com/111617/how-to-benchmark-your-linux-system-3-open-source-benchmarking-tools/
[06:57] <Tin_man> Grorco, hardinfo i believe it's called
[06:57] <boodllebat> qengho: but i dont know correct grep statement
[06:58] <Grorco> nils_ I was thinking graphical but thank you :)
[06:58] <Grorco> Tin_man, I'm downloading it now to try it out :)
[06:59] <abhvl> Grorco, dont download. you can install it using sudo apt-get install
[06:59] <PCatinean> Can anyone help with video editing in Ubuntu? I record screencasts using Kazam and nobody seems to be able to open them at the quality and framerate recorded
[06:59] <Tin_man> i've used it, outputs a bunch of info..
[06:59] <Grorco> Thats how I downloaded it
[06:59] <abhvl> PCatinean, try other softwares? or convert it to proper format?
[06:59] <Grorco> Tin_man, Perfect thank you!
[07:00] <Tin_man> abhvl had the same thought..
[07:00] <PCatinean> abhvl, I'm not familiar with hat format to use, mp4 is used so far and almost everyone has issues with it
[07:00] <PCatinean> aw avi would have 1gb per like 10 seconds or less which is silly
[07:05] <qengho> boodllebat: you might need a good C11 book.
[07:05] <boodllebat> qengho: can you suggest one ?
[07:06] <boodllebat> qengho: does book contains all the datatypes ?
[07:07] <todd> OK so I just installed Kodi on my ubuntu box, unfortunatly I only have ssh access help!!!
[07:08] <qengho> boodllebat: Sorry. No.
[07:08] <qengho> todd: what do you expect to have?
[07:08] <ducasse> boodllebat: programming is not really supported here, try a channel for your language
[07:09] <ducasse> todd: what are you trying to do?
[07:10] <todd> qengho: I have ssh access to the server, but not a X11, and I have never done that before, and kodi has a web interface, but its disabled, I am trying to enable the web interface
[07:11] <ducasse> todd: you need to run kodi in x11 to enable the web interface. if you can't, you can try editing the config manually.
[07:11] <todd> ducasse: sure, so how do I run the x11 interface via ssh?
[07:12] <ducasse> todd: 'ssh -X'
[07:12] <ducasse> todd: but it will be _slow_
[07:12] <todd> ducasse: slow is fine, I just need it to enable web
[07:13] <ducasse> todd: there's not really a lot you can do from the webui anyway, you really need local x11.
[07:14] <todd> ducasse: ok I am in, and have a ssh prompt, now what?
[07:14] <qengho> todd: What happens on a Kodi box without a display? What's your goal?
[07:14] <ducasse> todd: 'kodi&' - but read what i wrote.
[07:15] <todd> my goal is to stream a bunch of big videos to my other pc;s
[07:15] <ducasse> todd: then use another dlna server.
[07:15] <qengho> todd: This is really offtopic here, but I don't think Kodi does that. You're using a client as a server.
[07:16] <ducasse> qengho: kodi can be a dlna server.
[07:17] <ducasse> todd: but this is a bad way to do it. try minidlna, or something like emby that has a proper webui.
[07:17] <qengho> todd: I think you're doing this upside down. Install nfs utils or a dlna server or whatever your clients understand.
[07:24] <Joral> what dm does xubuntu use?
[07:24] <ducasse> Joral: lightdm
[07:26] <Joral> ducasse, ok thanks, does ligh dm offer a menu to choose the desktop to load? I didn't see one and it is still loading lxde
[07:27] <ducasse> Joral: in the top right corner, i think.
[07:28] <ducasse> Joral: either that or close to your username, it depends on which greeter and theme you're using.
[07:29] <Joral> ducasse, I checked both of those locations and didn't see one.  Trying lxdm really quick to see if it does any better.
[07:29] <ducasse> Joral: did you install xubuntu from scatch or just the desktop?
[07:30] <Joral> ducasse, I installed all of the xubuntu packages
[07:31] <nacho_> Hooooola
[07:31] <ducasse> Joral: if you were using another dm before, i don't think that will swap it to lightdm unless you do 'dpkg-reconfigure lightdm'
[07:32] <Joral> ducasse, was using lubuntu prior which was also using lightdm
[07:33] <ducasse> Joral: ok. then there should definitely be a menu to select desktop, i'm using lightdm myself.
[07:34] <Joral> ducasse, I re-enabled lightdm and ran dpkg-reconfigure lightdm just to be sure
[07:36] <Joral> ducasse, ok I feel stupid now, its right next to the locale selection and i just didn't realize that was another menu
[07:36] <ducasse> Joral: :)
[07:39] <Joral> well xubuntu is still laggy but doesn't appear to be crashing like lxde.  Thanks for the help guys, now off to bed i go since the alarm goes off in four hours
[07:40] <ducasse> Joral: good luck, hope it will work better
[07:40] <todd> ok so I got in enabled the web interface... kodi is timeing out :-(
[07:40] <chinamikey> hello and aloha from Hawaii :D
[07:40] <Joral> ducasse, yep, only thing left to figure out is the right mouse button emulation/keyboard modifier
[07:41] <tuxedo> Hello chinamikey
[07:41] <todd> qengho: nfs? dlna? I am not sure... this is ubuntu to unbuntu
[07:41] <chinamikey> hi tuxedo
[07:42] <tuxedo> May you share your setup....It is the best way to introduce @chinamikey :v
[07:43] <chinamikey> does anyone know if I can install apache or nginx to a partition using a live Ubuntu DVD?
[07:44] <todd> cinamikey: yes, but you probably want to actually install the os, as a reboot will wipe out your install
[07:44] <Triffid_Hunter> chinamikey: into an existing linux install on the partition? sure, you can chroot in, but it would be heaps easier to boot it normally..
[07:45] <ducasse> todd: see the answer i wrote to you earlier, there are a couple of suggestions.
[07:46] <chinamikey> Ok, thanks Triffid. I have a few live DVDs, and I do have a server iso, but...no media to burn it to!
[07:46] <juanonymous> how do i completely remove windows from a dual boot?
[07:46] <chinamikey> this will be my first time to mess with server. Putting on an old laptop on 2nd partition.
[07:47] <ducasse> chinamikey: you can't run nginx from a server installer, you need to install to disk.
[07:47] <Triffid_Hunter> chinamikey: most modern liveDVDs can be put on a usbkey and work fine
[07:47] <chinamikey> ah...ok. I can go apache then. Just experimenting
[07:48] <chinamikey> I know I will run it from terminal, and that is what I am looking forward to.
[07:48] <chinamikey> Triffid, I am going to put this on an OLD 10yr laptop! Won't read from usb!
[07:48] <chinamikey> thanks though
[07:49] <Triffid_Hunter> chinamikey: 10y old should be new enough to boot from usb, might have to flip some bits in the bios first though
[07:49] <chinamikey> I mean won't boot rather
[07:49] <chinamikey> yeah, maybe. I haven't looked into it yet. Some BIOS do have that for sure
[07:50] <chinamikey> Here is my problem no. 2. I have no avaiable thumbdrives laying around.
[07:50] <sruli> hi, would anyone know how i can lock the screen from a script. lubuntu 16.04, 'gnome-screensaver-command' does not work on 16.04. 'xdg-screensaver --lock' does not work from script
[07:50] <chinamikey> no blank dvds. I have three full external drives, so...trying to think of something
[07:51] <ducasse> sruli: are you using lightdm?
[07:52] <chinamikey> right now all I can think of is dropping in the live Ubuntu, install that, and then add apache software and related?
[07:52] <sruli> ducasse: yes, lubuntu uses lightdm
[07:52] <ducasse> sruli: 'dm-tool lock' should work, then.
[07:53] <chinamikey> thnx for your input Triffid_Hunter
[07:53] <chinamikey> We just wrapped up 4th of July here in Hawaii. Only 10 PM way out here in the Pacific.
[07:56] <chinamikey> MSG ducasse thanks for your help too
[07:56] <chinamikey> oops
[07:56] <chinamikey> haha
[07:56] <ducasse> chinamikey: :)
[07:56] <sruli> ducasse: i get an error "not running inside a display manager XDG_SEAT_PATH not defined" as i wrote before i need to be able to execute it from a script
[07:57] <ducasse> sruli: how is this script started? i'm guessing the environment is not set up correctly.
[07:58] <sruli> ducasse: no environment, just #!/bin/bash dm-tool lock
[07:58] <ducasse> sruli: yes, but how is it started?
[07:59] <sruli> i call the script with "sudo /path/to/script/, but the command in the script is "sudo -u user dm-tool lock"
[08:00] <ducasse> sruli: sudo strips the environment for safety.
[08:01] <sruli> ducasse: how can i get the environment in that script, it has to be called with sudo as its executed somewhere along a chain of scripts which all require sudo
[08:02] <ducasse> sruli: in that case you need to set up the environment manually in the script, you will probably need at least DISPLAY, XAUTHORITY and XDG_SEAT_PATH
[08:02] <sruli> dualmal: can u help me with the full command to put in?
[08:03] <sruli> ducasse: ^^
[08:03] <ducasse> sruli: just see what those variables are set to in your normal shell and replicate the values
[08:04] <sruli> ducasse: how do i see that
[08:04] <ducasse> sruli: 'echo $DISPLAY', and then do the same for the other variables, and set them all in your script.
[08:06] <sruli> ducasse: what do I put in the script? "export DSIPLAY=:0" ?
[08:06] <ducasse> sruli: yup.
[08:07] <qengho> The Right Way is to use "sudo -E" or define the variables to survive passing with "visudo" and "man sudoers".
[08:11] <sruli> ducasse: i get an error "sudo: export: command not found" i tried with "sudo -u user export..." and just "export..."
[08:13] <ducasse> sruli: put the variables in the script, not on the sudo command line.
[08:13] <Triffid_Hunter> sruli: export is a bash builtin, what shell are you using?
[08:13] <sruli> ducasse: i put it in the script...
[08:13] <sruli> Triffid_Hunter: i am using a sh script
[08:15] <auronandace|work> !dash
[08:17] <sruli> auronandace|work: i am using #!/bin/bash
[08:17] <ducasse> sruli: for scripting help, try ##linux or #bash, it's not really supported here.
[08:17] <sruli> thanks for trying
[08:24] <m1dnight_> Has anyone here used the YakYak app?
[08:29] <drag0nius> how can i get location of service config?
[08:35] <hateball> drag0nius: can you elaborate?
[08:41] <Schwarzbaer> Hi. I've got a problem on my ecryptfs volume. I can reproducibly cause an error that looks like a file system error. I've checked the FS on the partition beneath the encryption (/dev/sda3), no errors there. Now how can I check the encrypted FS itself? Each time I boot from a stick and open the volume, I then can't run fsck, as that tells me that the device is busy (which, as the partition is now not only decrypted, but mounted, isn't surprising).
[08:45] <ducasse> Schwarzbaer: afaik, there's no way to do that. the fs you'd want to check is the underlying one, as you've correctly done. i suspect a file has been corrupted, or there is a fuse/ecryptfs bug.
[08:45] <Schwarzbaer> ducasse, then the solution here is what? Backup everything, reformat, get back data?
[08:45] <Siilwyn[m]1> Hi people, I'm thinking about installing 16.04... I read that 16.04.1 will include support for more hardware and include updates. Will 16.04 get the same hardware support and updates when 16.04.1 is out?
[08:46] <cfhowlett> Siilwyn[m]1, yes
[08:46] <ducasse> Schwarzbaer: it would probably be best to backup the unencrypted data you can get at and recreate the ecryptfs.
[08:46] <chinamikey> Hi and Aloha from Hawaii
[08:46] <Siilwyn[m]1> cfhowlett (IRC): alright thank you!
[08:47]  * chinamikey does the hula
[08:47] <cfhowlett> Siilwyn[m]1, happy2help!
[08:47] <Siilwyn[m]1> ^^
[08:47] <Schwarzbaer> Well, that's... disappointing. Still, thanks.
[08:47] <defekt> Siilwyn[m]1: more support for hardware and firmwarm is just dependant on the kernel version
[08:48] <Siilwyn[m]> defekt: alright and the point release won't have a higher kernel version?
[08:48] <ducasse> Schwarzbaer: i've got no other suggestions, sorry. ecryptfs is not a "real" fiilesystem that you can check and repair.
[08:48]  * defekt nods at Siilwyn[m] 
[08:48] <chinamikey> need to verify something please
[08:49]  * Siilwyn[m] says cheers and grabs an USB stick to get installing
[08:49] <chinamikey> can I dd an iso file to an empty partition, then set it up in Grub and boot it after restart?
[08:49] <cfhowlett> chinamikey, yes
[08:49] <cfhowlett> !grub > cfhowlett
[08:50] <chinamikey> cfhowlett: thanks. So when I do that, I will then have to have a second partition for THAT to install to, right?
[08:50] <cfhowlett> chinamikey, indeed.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Booting_an_ISO_from_a_Menuentry
[08:51] <chinamikey> chinamikey: oh great! I have been scratchin my noggin for a bit
[08:51] <chinamikey> :D
[08:51] <chinamikey> I have no media to burn the iso to, but I am going to use a live DVD to dd the iso file to the partition.
[08:51] <chinamikey> I think I'm on the right track.
[08:52] <Siilwyn[m]> chinamikey (IRC): > I have been scratchin my noggin for a bit
[08:52] <Siilwyn[m]> what does that even mean?
[08:52] <defekt> !botsnack
[08:52] <chinamikey> Oh, sorry, I am from "the deep south"--Texas. It means I have been scratching my head in confusion. noggin = head
[08:53] <Siilwyn[m]> ah alright, haha it sounded like something else
[08:54] <Siilwyn[m]> I just donated a bit to Ubuntu before downloading the ISO but it doesn't seem to download... Is it me or does this page indeed not send a file?
[08:54] <Siilwyn[m]> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?country=NL&version=16%252e04&architecture=amd64
[08:54] <chinamikey> Siilwyn[m]: OIC. yeah, could sound rather vulgar! HAHA
[08:55] <chinamikey> cfhowlett:  OK, gong to go try this. I'll come back and let ya know if it worked, if you're still here.
[08:56] <defekt> Siilwyn[m]: try http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[08:58] <Siilwyn[m]> defekt (IRC): yes but it should send the file when on the page I send right?
[08:58] <Siilwyn[m]> If you click 'download' on the page you send it asks for a donation, so I did, then it sends me to the page with a thank you and in the url you see it includes the version and all, I was kind of confused there where I could it
[08:58] <Siilwyn[m]> that means you'll have to go back and click 'no thank you' even though you donated
[08:58] <crane> hey ho, i'm a litte bit confused about a umask. i have setup in /etc/init.d/php5-fpm.conf my umask described like in https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21248904/how-to-trace-where-php5-fpm-umask-settings-are-coming-from-on-ubuntu but... everytime php-fpm writes the directory it gets created with 755 and not 775
[08:59] <k1l_> Siilwyn[m]: it should download. maybe the donation process is not fully done.
[08:59] <k1l_> Siilwyn[m]: else try here: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimages/
[08:59] <Siilwyn[m]> that's kind of really bad to be honest :)
[09:00] <Siilwyn[m]> but okay, I'm downloading now
[09:00] <qengho> Siilwyn[m]: that is bad. I'll file a bug.
[09:00] <Siilwyn[m]> is there anywhere where I could potentially report this?
[09:00] <Siilwyn[m]> oh even better, thank you qengho!
[09:01] <Siilwyn[m]> I tried reporting a bug once some time ago but couldn't figure out how. ;p
[09:01] <k1l_> !bug
[09:01] <Siilwyn[m]> on launchpad if I remember correctly
[09:01] <qengho> Siilwyn[m]: In this case: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content
[09:03] <Tomster> Hi. I need help with Ubuntu. Somehow, my power configuration was messed up. Whenever I plug in my laptop, it claims that it's unplugged, and when I unplug it, it says that it's plugged it
[09:04] <qengho> Siilwyn[m]: Subscribe. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/1599080  Add notes.
[09:04] <CarolineYu> ycc
[09:05] <qengho> Tomster: That's weird. Has it ever worked?
[09:07] <anurag> webbrowser.open("http://google.co.in")
[09:13] <qengho> Tomster left. Dang. I worked out  sudo sh -c 'watch -n 0.1 tail /sys/bus/acpi/drivers/battery/*/power_supply/BAT?/*_now'
[09:19] <Matsy> Hey everyone! What happens when a mountpoint loses a connection?
[09:19] <Matsy> Will it automatically open the connection again?
[09:19] <Matsy> It's a remote CIFS mountpoint
[09:20] <Berto> muuy buenas
[09:20] <Berto> Saludos a todos en general..
[09:21] <Berto> este seria un canal para ayuda sobre Xubuntu 14.04
[09:21] <Berto> ?
[09:21] <esiodos> hola Berto
[09:21] <ducasse> !es | Berto
[09:26] <unomie> E: Package 'phpmyadmin' has no installation candidate   — Hmm?
[09:31] <guest> unomie: please run "apt-get update" first, and it it still doesn't work, please put the output of both commands in http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel.
[09:31] <guest> unomie: Please also let me know which Ubuntu version you're using
[09:32] <zenith_> Name the fool who designs autocaptcha verification templates !
[09:33] <unomie> guest: Ubuntu 15.10 - http://paste.ubuntu.com/18519532/
[09:34] <zenith_> It feels more like a gk quiz not a robo verification !
[09:34] <zenith_> Totally inconvinient !
[09:35] <zenith_> All that I posted was for freenode connectivity to this irc !
[09:36] <zenith_> *webchat.freenode
[09:36] <ducasse> !ot | zenith_
[09:36] <zenith_> Anybody familiar with zenity here ?
[09:38] <zenith_> zenity --General --window-icon=ICONPATH
[09:38] <liquid-silence> hi all
[09:38] <liquid-silence> is there a way to fix this W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[09:38] <liquid-silence> without having to edit the sources.list
[09:39] <liquid-silence> I am using this in a vagrant environment
[09:40] <zenith_> zenity --General --window-icon=ICONPATH
[09:40] <zenith_> Is this the correct format to use in putting a window-icon
[09:41] <zenith_> It gives an error
[09:41] <liquid-silence> no one?
[09:44] <paranoidabhi> hi
[09:44] <paranoidabhi> is there anyway to suppress the output of process id when launching <process> &?
[09:45] <liquid-silence> process & > /dev/null?
[09:46] <liquid-silence> process > /dev/null & IIRC
[09:47] <zenith_> Command to register nick to ##linux ?
[09:48] <zenith_> Anybody alive
[09:49] <hateball> !register | zenith_
[09:52] <zenith_> hateball : /nick <name> isn't working !
[09:52] <zenith_> still cant peak
[09:52] <zenith_> *speak
[09:52] <Cursarion> are you trying to /nick zenith
[09:52] <hateball> zenith_: Did you miss the part about help available in #freenode ?
[09:52] <Cursarion> by any chance?
[09:52] <Cursarion> because someone else is using that nickname
[09:52] <liquid-silence> hmm /msg nicksever register <password> | /msg nickserv identify <password>
[09:53] <Anarhist> hi, how do i update from previous LTS to the current one, i have 14.04 installed right now
[09:53] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | Anarhist
[09:53] <liquid-silence> now back to fixing my crappy apt update issue
[09:54] <Anarhist> i thought 04 meant april
[09:54] <Anarhist> i guess i was wrong q;-)=
[09:54] <HiDeHo> Hi all how do i add the ubuntu non-free repos
[09:54] <k1l_> Anarhist: the LTS upgrade is opened on the first pointrelease 16.04.1
[09:54] <Anarhist> gotcha
[09:55] <k1l_> liquid-silence: "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* ; sudo apt update"
[09:55] <liquid-silence> I did that many many many times :(
[09:55] <zenith_> zenity --General --window-icon=ICONPATH
[09:55] <zenith_> Is this the correct format to use in putting a window-icon
[09:55] <zenith_> in zenity
[09:55] <k1l_> Anarhist: if you need to upgrade now you can use the developer LTS upgrade. but that is on your own risk then
[09:55] <zenith_> It gives an error
[09:56] <Anarhist> k1l_, i do not absolutely need to upgrade right now
[09:56] <Anarhist> thanks
[09:56] <guest> unomie: how come you have a mix of wily and trusty sources in your sources.list?
[09:56] <guest> unomie: Is this system upgraded? What's going on with that?
[09:57] <k1l_> unomie: please run a "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:57] <unomie> guest: Yeah I upgraded it recently
[09:58] <guest> unomie: how did you upgrade it?
[09:58] <guest> unomie: What version do you think you're on? What is the output of: cat /etc/issue.net
[10:00] <unomie> guest:  output is Ubuntu 15.10
[10:01] <unomie> I upgraded via ssh using do-release-upgrade iirc
 unomie: please run a "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"   can you please provide the output-url?
[10:01] <zenith_> Anybody familiar with zenity here ?
[10:02] <liquid-silence> k1l_ I have tried that
[10:02] <liquid-silence> no luck
[10:02] <guest> unomie: back up the file /etc/apt/sources.list, then replace it with the contents of this file https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/txt/wily/sources_47a58c8dafb89aa8932d73e310951dfad2bd87fb.txt
[10:03] <guest> unomie: Then run "apt-get update" again, then you should be fixed
[10:03] <zenith_> If no you can also refer any online source. manual for zenity isn't that informative too !
[10:03] <unomie> k1l_: http://termbin.com/m2jj
[10:03] <unomie> ok thx guest :)
[10:03] <guest> unomie: you can do it in one line like this: curl https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/txt/wily/sources_47a58c8dafb89aa8932d73e310951dfad2bd87fb.txt | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:03] <liquid-silence> why is this so damn hard
[10:03] <k1l_> uh, that looks like a mess. that sources.list.
[10:04] <unomie> Done that - still getting phpmyadmin still has no installation candidate
[10:04] <HiDeHo> hi all how to manually install the ubuntu non-free repos
[10:04] <k1l_> better use a clean 15.10 sources.list and then run "sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade"
[10:05] <Ben64> zenith_: if it gives an error, that probably means you didn't do it right
[10:06] <unomie> k1l_: generated one here - https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php - same error
[10:06] <zenith_> What's the correct format for general options ?
[10:06] <Ben64> zenith_: have you checked 'man zenity'
[10:06] <qofcheez> hi, desperate person in way over her head with an ubuntu issue. would greatly appreciate any pointing in the right direction or assistance
[10:07] <zenith_> watch this http://paste.ubuntu.com/18522343/
[10:08] <Ben64> yep thats part of the man page
[10:08] <zenith_> Tried the same
[10:08] <Ben64> what exactly are you typing
[10:08] <zenith_> zenity --General --window-icon=ICONPATH
[10:08] <Ben64> nowhere in the man page does it say --General
[10:09] <zenith_> But I used others as info in such format!
[10:09] <zenith_> and that worked
[10:09] <Ben64> because they're in the man page
[10:10] <zenith_> zenity --info --text="Bye"
[10:10] <zenith_> It works
[10:10] <Ben64> yep, those are in the man page
[10:10] <Ben64> --flarpyfoo "bob" won't work because it's not in the man page
[10:10] <qofcheez> can anyone direct me to where I might find some technical support?
[10:11] <Ben64> qofcheez: for ubuntu, right here
[10:11] <Dandels> qofcheez, just ask the question. Someone will answer if they know the answer
[10:11] <Dandels> (That sounded more blunt than I intended it to)
[10:11] <qofcheez> ok it's a bit long but I'll boil it down
[10:12] <qofcheez> new installation, not recognizing network hardware, broadcomm device
[10:12] <qofcheez> know what I need to install,tried following instructions won't work
[10:12] <qofcheez> no direct line to internet, no cd drive, mounted iso from usb as cd drive, won't work
[10:13] <Indrek> what is a proper way to remove hdd from ubuntu ?
[10:13] <qofcheez> need firmware-b43-installer but how to get it and how to install it?
[10:13] <zenith_> Ben64 : What do you wanna say ?
[10:13] <zenith_> In zenity --info --text="Bye", info is the option for zenity ! that's why I used --general !
[10:13] <zenith_> *--info
[10:13] <hateball> qofcheez: well you will need some device that has access to the internet at least, and a means to transfer to the computer, USB or such
[10:13] <Ben64> zenith_: because it literally says "--info" in the man page! IT NEVER SAYS --General!!!
[10:13] <qofcheez> got another laptio here that can do that
[10:14] <Ben64> zenith_: you made up that option and are wondering why it isn't working. it's because you made it up!
[10:14] <Dandels> So your issue is that you know the package you need but not now to get it to the computer you want to install on?
[10:14] <qofcheez> tried this: https://itsfoss.com/fix-no-wireless-network-ubuntu/  but once I hit apply changes the cd unounts and nothing happens
[10:15] <qofcheez> I used another site to determine what my exact hardware is and what package applies
[10:15] <zenith_> Ohk Just mention the option for designing (size, layout , window icon,etc.)
[10:15] <hateball> qofcheez: yes it requires you have working internet
[10:15] <Dandels> qofcheez, you get your exact hardware by opening a terminal and typing "lspci"
[10:15] <qofcheez> one the ubuntu laptop or the spare?  I have it on the spare
[10:15] <hateball> qofcheez: but you can manually download http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/firmware-b43-installer/download and http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/b43-fwcutter/download
[10:15] <Ben64> zenith_: are you serious? you pasted the relevant section from the man page
[10:16] <qofcheez> oh, hate ball that looks brilliant will try that one\
[10:17] <hateball> qofcheez: so put those two in a folder of your choice, open a terminal and navigate to the folder, then run "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[10:17] <zenith_> Ben64 : zenity --window-icon=ICONPATH doesn't works even
[10:17] <hateball> qofcheez: and hopefully there will be no complaints, and one reboot later you're all set
[10:17] <zenith_> says choose appropriate dialo option!
[10:17] <zenith_> *dialog
[10:18] <qofcheez> thank you so much, I will trot off and try that and let you know.
[10:18] <Ben64> zenith_: right, so choose the the type of dialog
[10:20] <zenith_> Ben64 : Can you refer to a more detailed description for usage (any source)?
[10:21] <Ben64> the man page. you need to spend more time reading it
[10:21] <Ben64> everything you're asking is right in there
[10:21] <pa> is 16.04.1 out? release was scheduled for june 21, right?
[10:21] <akik> i'm initializing a 4 terabyte usb disk with "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1". somehow the initialization process went into the background and i was returned to the shell. what happens if i shutdown the computer now?
[10:21] <losh> Hello, I'm being asked to install nvm on Trusty but there's no package available.  What is the reason nvm isn't available as a deb package?
[10:22] <Ben64> pa: july
[10:22] <pa> ah ok
[10:22] <pa> thanks
[10:22] <Ben64> akik: it'll shut down probably. maybe check to see if mkfs is still running, it might have just finished quickly
[10:23] <akik> Ben64: i'm seeing the activity led light blinking constantly
[10:23] <Ben64> check processes
[10:23] <akik> Ben64: mkfs.ext4 finished in less than 30 seconds
[10:24] <Ben64> that isn't strange
[10:24] <akik> well for a 4 terabyte disk it is
[10:24] <ducasse> losh: because nobody has made one that they are willing to support/maintain?
[10:24] <Ben64> no, it isn't
[10:24] <akik> Ben64: so the default is to let it do the initialization in the background?
[10:24] <Ben64> no
[10:25] <Ben64> it doesn't take long to do a quick format, that's why it's called a quick format
[10:25] <akik> Ben64: what is a quick format? i've never seen that with mkfs
[10:26] <akik> mkfs.ext3
[10:26] <Ben64> where it just writes the stuff it needs to use the partition as <filesystem> and says the rest of the partition is empty
[10:29] <akik> superuser.com says that it's this option which enables that background processing "-E lazy_itable_init=1"
[10:30] <akik> http://superuser.com/questions/187783/how-long-does-it-usually-take-to-format-a-2tb-external-hd-using-ext4-and-gparted
[10:31] <Ben64> not the same thing
[10:31] <akik> Ben64: what's the quick format option in mkfs.ext4 ?
[10:32] <hateball> akik: Also if you're comparing ext3 and ext4... ext4 is so much faster in all kinds of operations
[10:32] <losh> ducasse, so it's not a technical issue, it's a maintainer resource issue?
[10:32] <qofcheez> hateball:  I can't figure out the name of the drive in other to mount it ass from '5542-B03D' either I'm being thick or not enough coffee
[10:32] <Ben64> it's all quick format using mkfs
[10:32] <KeyboardNotFound> When I started ubuntu I got error: the system started in low graphics mode, I have AMD graphics, can I specify to use my integrated intel graphics, I know tht ubuntu is having problems with AMD drivers. Please help, It's urgent!
[10:33] <hateball> qofcheez: usually mounting is done automatically, it should end up under /media/ somewhere
[10:34] <akik> Ben64: no
[10:34] <Ben64> yes
[10:34] <ducasse> losh: i have no idea what the problem is for that particular package, but it's likely that nobody has been willing to do the necessary work or not considered the package important enough.
[10:34] <qofcheez> that's the thing, I know there is a media folder but I can't find it.
[10:34] <akik> there's a ext4lazyinit process working in the background
[10:34] <hateball> !who | qofcheez
[10:34] <akik> there's no such thing as quick format for ext3 or ext4
[10:35] <Ben64> yes there is
[10:35] <Ben64> you don't know what you're talking about
[10:35] <hateball> qofcheez: Have you downloaded the files and are now trying to put them on a removable device of some sort?
[10:35] <akik> Ben64: so what's the option for it in mkfs.ext4?
 it's all quick format using mkfs
[10:35] <Ben64> it's like you're trying to be dense
[10:36] <akik> Ben64: no. you don't know what you are talking about
[10:36] <qofcheez> hate ball the files are on the usb now.  I can double click it but clicking the install button won't work, and I can't seem to find the usb in terminal
[10:36] <akik> Ben64: there's a background process initializing my usb disk and the activity light is blinking *constantly*
[10:36] <Ben64> akik: not quick format = write 4TB
[10:36] <akik> http://www.hecticgeek.com/2015/01/ext4-external-hard-disk-busy-at-idle-fix/
[10:36] <qofcheez> hateball
[10:37] <hateball> qofcheez: open terminal, type "cd /media"
[10:37] <Dandels> It's possible it didn't get automounted
[10:37] <hateball> qofcheez: and then "ls"
[10:37] <qofcheez> hateball I'm really thick this morning, forgot add / :/
[10:37] <KeyboardNotFound> When I started ubuntu I got error: the system started in low graphics mode, I have AMD graphics, can I specify to use my integrated intel graphics, I know tht ubuntu is having prob
[10:37] <liquid-silence> apt is horrible
[10:38] <Ben64> akik: "but it requires the kernel  to  finish  initializing the filesystem in the background when the filesystem is first mounted." so you mounted it
[10:38] <qofcheez> hateball on more question:  having trouble getting correct name of usb drive to mount it
[10:38] <hateball> qofcheez: use tab to autocomplete the path
[10:38] <losh> thanks for the info ducasse, i guess i'll have to package it myself then.  Cheers.
[10:38] <qofcheez> thank you
[10:38] <hateball> qofcheez: you should be able to just "cd <tab>"
[10:38] <k1l_> liquid-silence: any sort of proxy or vpn inbetween?
[10:39] <liquid-silence> k1l_  its a vagrant box, so I presume it does some weird nat stuff, but all other items update
[10:39] <ducasse> losh: you can see if there is a debian package, and ask to make it accessible in trusty-backports. you might be expected to do the work, though.
[10:40] <KeyboardNotFound> When I started ubuntu I got error: the system started in low graphics mode, I have AMD graphics, can I specify to use my integrated intel graphics, I know tht ubuntu is having prob
[10:40] <ducasse> !patience | KeyboardNotFound
[10:40] <liquid-silence> Fetched 23.7 MB in 49s (476 kB/s)
[10:40] <liquid-silence> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[10:40] <k1l_> liquid-silence: i dont know that vagrant stuff. i just see a lot of people in here having some issues that native installs dont have.
[10:41] <liquid-silence> k1l_
[10:41] <liquid-silence> its a virtualbox machine
[10:41] <liquid-silence> so I doubt its something weird
[10:41] <hateball> KeyboardNotFound: Have you looked in your BIOS? Some machines have muxless switching so you can tell it to only use one or the other card
[10:41] <liquid-silence> what is your idea regarding proxy?
[10:43] <KeyboardNotFound> how to reinstall gpu drivers?
[10:45] <hateball> KeyboardNotFound: can you paste the output of "lspci -k" when you start in low graphics mode? Open a terminal and run that command
[10:45] <hateball> !paste | KeyboardNotFound
[10:46] <ashmew2> Hi!
[10:46] <ashmew2> Can anyone help me with setting up an HDMI monitor ? I plug in the monitor via HDMI but get no display on it\
[10:47] <hateball> ashmew2: Is this a laptop? What GPU chipset/driver are you using?
[10:47] <ducasse> ashmew2: see if there is a button on the monitor to select the input
[10:48] <hateball> ducasse: Heh, good suggestion... I've made that mistake myself :o
[10:49] <ashmew2> hateball: yes it's a laptop. http://paste.ubuntu.com/18525753/ lspci output
[10:49] <ashmew2> ducasse: yes, it's set to HDMI1
[10:49] <ram___> Hi. Can I install OpenStack Liberty using the OpenStack Autopilot 15.01?
[10:49] <ashmew2> xrandr -q shows that HDMI-1-2 is connected, hateball ducasse
[10:49] <hateball> ashmew2: do you have a Fn+some key to switch outputs?
[10:50] <ashmew2> could be, sorry I've never done it before
[10:50] <ashmew2> Fn+F1 looks like it
[10:51] <Dandels> Does that imply you fixed the problem?
[10:52] <ram___> Hi. Can I install OpenStack Liberty using the OpenStack Autopilot ?
[10:52] <ashmew2> Sorry got booted
[10:52] <ducasse> ram___: ask in #ubuntu-server
[10:52] <ashmew2> As soon as I did Fn+F1, I did get a display on the monitor!
[10:53] <ashmew2> But it kept trying to adjust itself, and finally died, crashing my display and logging me out
[10:53] <ram___> ducasse: thank you
[10:54] <hateball> ashmew2: can you just use the regular monitor control thing to choose outputs? I dont run Unity myself, but I assume there is such a function in the GUI
[10:54] <ram___> Hi. Can I install OpenStack Liberty using the OpenStack Autopilot ?
[10:54] <ducasse> ashmew2: or install and run arandr
[10:54] <ashmew2> ram___: someone said #ubuntu-server, why are you back here?
[10:55] <ashmew2> hateball: do you mean the displays settings? It shows Display and Unknown Display
[10:55] <ashmew2> ducasse: arandr? Cool, I'll install it
[10:56] <hateball> ashmew2: yeah if it cant read EDID I guess it will show unknown display. as I said I dont run Unity
[10:56] <ducasse> ashmew2: or try 'xrandr --output HDMI-1-2 --auto'
[10:56] <ashmew2> hateball: ah, alright
[10:56] <ashmew2> ducasse: I did install arandr, it has a big label saying LVDS1 , (name of my primary display on laptop's monitor)
[10:57] <martinellis2>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[10:58] <ashmew2> ducasse: running xrandr failed with a zenity box "Could not switch fonguration CRTC 63"
[10:58] <ashmew2> That messed up my screen res though
[11:02] <HiDeHo> Hi all the picasa app is not showing in the repos
[11:02] <HiDeHo> i am on ubuntu 16.04 atm
[11:02] <qofcheez> hateball tried running them but amongst the list of this that comes up 'some problem occurred during the firmware download' is one of them
[11:04] <ashmew2> thanks ducasse , hateball
[11:04] <ashmew2> I have the display on the external monitor now
[11:04] <ashmew2> The Fn+F1 key did it somehow...after logging me out multiple times
[11:04] <hateball> :D
[11:05] <hateball> qofcheez: hmm ok. so what exact chipset do you have? run "lspci" in a terminal
[11:05] <ashmew2> but it lags a lot, if I take the mouse there, it lags and leaves  a trail behind it
[11:05] <ashmew2> Wrong refresh rate?
[11:05] <hateball> ashmew2: that could well be. what does xrandr say?
[11:06] <ashmew2> hateball: for primary laptop screen, refresh rate is 59.6*+
[11:06] <ashmew2> for HDMI-1-2, it is set to 60.0 +
[11:07] <ashmew2> hmm, I should learn how to read the xrandr output
[11:07] <qofcheez> .. hate ball just getting command not found
[11:07] <ashmew2> Should they be the same refresh rates?
[11:07] <qofcheez> .. hateball just getting command not found
[11:07] <hateball> qofcheez: then you are not typing it correctly
[11:08] <hateball> qofcheez: LSPCI with small letter. In case there is some confusion due to fonts.
[11:08] <qofcheez> got it, which one are you looking for hateball?
[11:09] <hateball> qofcheez: the row that is a network controller, broadcom, which you are trying to get working :)
[11:10] <qofcheez> 02:00.0 Network controller:  Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)
[11:10] <hateball> qofcheez: ok. then try downloading this http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/bcmwl-kernel-source/download instead of the other packages
[11:11] <ola> hi
[11:11] <Guest30560> hi
[11:12] <zenith_> command to show failure or success status of command ?
[11:12] <EriC^^> echo $?
[11:13] <qofcheez> hateball same command line as before or any changes?
[11:14] <hateball> qofcheez: nope, just "sudo dpkg -i <packagename>"
[11:14] <hateball> qofcheez: which you can tab-complete
[11:14] <Triffid_Hunter> EriC^^: heh I have that buried in my PROMPT_COMMAND variable :)
[11:14] <EriC^^> :)
[11:15] <zenith_> Eric^^ Does the number signifies the type of error if there is in failure?
[11:15] <zenith_> number from echo $?
[11:15] <Triffid_Hunter> zenith_: yes, it's program specific though, each program chooses its own return codes. 0 = success
[11:15] <EriC^^> zenith_: depends, usually 0 is success and 1 is failure, above 128 is a segfault i think
[11:15] <Triffid_Hunter> zenith_: basically it's the int returned from the program's main()
[11:17] <zenith_> so is this the way if statement works for as : if ! [ mkdir /boot ] then ...
[11:18] <qofcheez> hate ball error were encountered while processing bcmwl-kernel-source
[11:19] <qofcheez> hateball I can get graphic interface if I click directly on the file but nothing happens when I press install button
[11:19] <zenith_> but ! of any number is 0 then how is if block executed if it gets that signal number !
[11:19] <hateball> qofcheez: Yes, I believe the GUI thing is broken. Fixed with updates, but you need internet for that so.
[11:20] <hateball> qofcheez: Can you paste exact error you get when you try installing with dpkg ?
[11:20] <qofcheez> will try to post screenshot give me a minute to figure out where I can upload it to
[11:20] <zenith_> because if <block> is executed if signal is for it !
[11:20] <hateball> qofcheez: also how come you have no ethernet access to your router or whatever?
[11:21] <hateball> qofcheez: imgur.com is nice
[11:21] <warpx> Anyone around with Thunderbolt networking experience?
[11:21] <bazhang> warpx, is that some sort of Mac technology
[11:21] <warpx> Intel
[11:22] <warpx> And yeah, Apple is drinking it
[11:22] <bazhang> warpx, hows that realte to ubuntu
[11:22] <warpx> Mostly, that I'm contemplating to fit my servers with TB cards
[11:22] <warpx> And I'd like to know if and how I'd configure the interfaces
[11:23] <bazhang> warpx, you could try ##hardware and #ubuntu-server I suppose
[11:23] <warpx> It's a couple of collocated bare metal machines that either could get more NIC
[11:23] <warpx> OR get one more TB card and save 40 NIC
[11:25] <warpx> Thank you bazhang, I'll try
[11:25] <bazhang> welcome
[11:26] <count> moin moin
[11:26] <warpx> moin
[11:27] <count> I'm seeing a weird issue with Xenical, both on kernel 4.4.0-28 and 3.19.0-61 .. with swap enabled, the system "freezes" when running a mem-heavy process. without swap, nothing bad (but OOM) happens.
[11:27] <count> how can I debug something like that better?
[11:27] <qofcheez> here you go hateball http://imgur.com/f8J76z
[11:28] <qofcheez> sorry hateball http://imgur.com/f8J76zp
[11:29] <count> (it never recovers)
[11:30] <Muftware>  I am not able to modify any file in the directory /etc/default.
[11:30] <Muftware> In that directory's default properties->permissions, its showing that "You are not the owner, so you cannot change these permissions."
[11:31] <Rejun> Hi, help Next error
[11:31] <Muftware> Can anyone tell me, hoe to  modify file in the /etc/default/ directory??
[11:33] <Zaitzev> Muftware: if you have to ask, you shouldn't really be messing with those files.. but you have to be superuser
[11:33] <liquid-silence> can anyone here do a sudo apt-get update on trusty 64?
[11:34] <hateball> qofcheez: ugh. that must be something new... iirc you only needed the bcmwl-kernel-source package for an offline install. hmmm.
[11:34] <hateball> qofcheez: so again, why are you not able to get an ethernet connection?
[11:34] <vivek__> I have installed 16.04 in my main machine
[11:34] <vivek__> and there is no audio in it
[11:35] <zenith_> My terminal stopped showing stdin content !
[11:35] <qofcheez> I'm on holiday in Canada and my mother does not have an ehternet cable. in about two hours the mall opens and I can buy one though,but I have limit time
[11:35] <zenith_> Help
[11:35] <vivek__> i can't hear anything from anywhere ex. youtube soundcloud mp3 files
[11:35] <count> zenith_: type 'reset', that'll reset your terminal
[11:35] <count> zenith_: if you don't know whether there's anything else on the line, use ctrl-u first
[11:36] <qofcheez> hateball if I could get an ethernet cable, get it to work, what's the process?
[11:36] <zenith_> ctrl U doesn't shows up anything
[11:36] <hateball> qofcheez: plug it in the router, the use the GUI to enable the driver
[11:37] <Rejun> Please help error mount disk cdlive ubuntu capture send.http://www.pastefile.com/DKNk1I
[11:37] <qofcheez> through software and updates? hateball
[11:37] <hateball> qofcheez: yep, where you were earlier
[11:37] <Rejun> http://www.pastefile.com/DKNk1I
[11:37] <zenith_> well i used a command as $(command) to know what output it shows as i needed to use in scripting !
[11:38] <hateball> qofcheez: there's manual ways of extracting the firmware but it's just... hard to explain over IRC like this. It's really much better if you just hook up ethernet and use the builtin functions for it :)
[11:38] <qofcheez> if you're still online then and it works, I swear I'll have to send you cupcakes or somethign
[11:39] <zenith_> Do anyone know what signal is sent when a command is executed but there is some error in argument or perimeter ?
[11:39] <hateball> qofcheez: oh wait !
[11:39] <Rejun> http://www.pastefile.com/DKNk1I
[11:39] <HiDeHo> anyone got an idea why software center has not apps in 16.04
[11:39]  * qofcheez waits with baited breath
[11:39] <hateball> qofcheez: I didnt read properly on your screenshot, you are missing dkms
[11:40] <zenith_> like: telnet <ip_addr> and the address is unreachable then what type signals signify this ?
[11:40] <ducasse> Rejun: read the message, it tells you what to do
[11:41] <hateball> qofcheez: so grab yet another package and install that first http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/dkms/download
[11:43] <Rejun> Speak spanish please
[11:43] <hateball> !es | Rejun
[11:44] <hateball> qofcheez: and remove the bw43 packages, you dont need those to be installed
[11:44] <hateball> qofcheez: only dkms first, then the bcmwl package
[11:45] <vivek__> I have installed 16.04 in my main machine
[11:45] <vivek__> i can't hear anything from anywhere ex. youtube soundcloud mp3 files
[11:45] <vivek__> and there is no audio in it
[11:45] <Rejun> Tankyou
[11:46] <qofcheez> hateball rep you might be a bit ahead of me.  Easy way to uninstall those?
[11:47] <hateball> qofcheez: they are not installed. just remove them from your thumbdrive or whatever storage you are using
[11:47] <hateball> qofcheez: instead of installing *.deb, point to the specific packages. as you need to install dkms first.
[11:47] <qofcheez> ah gotcha
[11:48] <zenith_> There is an error redirection operator like &> . Can anybody justify its usage ?
[11:48] <zenith_> Please
[11:48] <anddam> zenith_: sure, #bash
[11:48] <leeyaa> hi
[11:49] <leeyaa> can anyone tell me if any of these is not used? im a bit confused https://bpaste.net/show/4f7321bc6e59
[11:49] <anddam> zenith_: are you asking why such an operator exists?
[11:49] <zenith_> no I need to redirect error from command in a script !
[11:50] <ducasse> leeyaa: that's the kernel you are running, yes
[11:50] <conan_> hi
[11:50] <leeyaa> ducasse: yeah but is any of the headers not being used ?
[11:50] <leeyaa> not sure how to check it out
[11:50] <leeyaa> need to remove unused crap
[11:50] <anddam> zenith_: ok, and are you having an issue while trying that?
[11:50] <ducasse> zenith_: ask in #bash, this is not the proper place
[11:50] <leeyaa> i can see some minor version differences
[11:50] <defekt> zenith_: echo "bleh" >/dev/null
[11:51] <leeyaa> dont ever redirect to null it silly ;p
[11:51] <qofcheez> hateball is getting to a screen showing configuring secure boot normal?  I seem to remember i should say yes
[11:51] <ducasse> leeyaa: you didn't list the header packages
[11:51] <qofcheez> to disable it that it
[11:51] <hateball> leeyaa: "apt-get autoremove" will remove unneeded packages
[11:51] <anddam> defekt: he's talking about redirecting stderr so it'd be fd 2
[11:51] <zenith_> defekt : what's echo "bleh" >/dev/null for ?
[11:52] <anddam> zenith_: you're uncooperative in receiving help
[11:52] <leeyaa> hateball: autoremov wants to get rid of packages i need
[11:52] <leeyaa> some
[11:52] <hateball> qofcheez: euh....go with the default for now
[11:54] <vivek__> anddam, will you pls help me mate
[11:54] <qofcheez> hate ball the proprietary driver is now in use after rebooting but no network devices available is still showing
[11:55] <rbern> Hi, I dont regurarly use Ubuntu, I use debian, but while developing a project of mine (http://github.com/rbern/debroot) I'm facing a doubt: ubuntu, as oposed to debian, does upgrade the kernel version during a release cycle? I ask this because when I run an "apt-get upgrade" apt says it will keep files from upgrading, linux-image-generic being one of them. If I don't upgrade the kernel version I dont get new kernel security updates? TY and sorry for long
[11:55] <rbern>  question.
[11:55] <hateball> qofcheez: if you run "lspci -k" what does it say for the broadcom card?
[11:56] <k1l_> leeyaa: can you show the output of autoremove?
[11:56] <hateball> rbern: security updates are backported. with LTS releases you also have the options of using a newer LTS-kernels for hardware support purposes etc
[11:56] <leeyaa> k1l_: yeah one sec
[11:57] <hateball> qofcheez: and if you run "iwlist scan" there's nothing showing?
[11:57] <leeyaa> k1l_: here is the output: https://bpaste.net/show/47f650ece6bd from these I know for sure I need the nodejs package. but considering i want to keep one - there might be more.
[11:58] <qofcheez> network controller:  broadcom coporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01) DeviceName: Broadcom Nami 43142 bgn 1x1 + BT 4 LE PCIe+usb NGFF 1630 MOW SubsystemL Hewlett Packard company BCM 43142 802.11b.g.n Kernel modules: bcma, wl  hateball
[11:59] <hateball> qofcheez: then it has loaded the proper drivers yes
[11:59] <qofcheez> hateball 'interface doesn't support scanning'
[11:59] <hateball> hmmm
[11:59] <hateball> qofcheez: ok, try "rfkill list"
[12:00] <hateball> qofcheez: see if anything is blocked
[12:00] <k1l_> leeyaa: hmm, i would run the updates fist
[12:00] <rbern> ty hateball. if security upgrades are backported the fact that linux-image-generic not being upgraded means that there were no security updates since April? sorry for my confusion.
[12:00] <k1l_> *first
[12:00] <leeyaa> k1l_: update or upgrade (note i dont want to upgrade)
[12:00] <qofcheez> no soft or hard block, but it's talking about bluetooth  hateball
[12:01] <k1l_> leeyaa: both. why dont you want to upgrade the packages? apt full-upgrade will not bring you to a new ubuntu release but makes sure all security updates are installed
[12:01] <leeyaa> k1l_: because it is out of scope atm
[12:01] <leeyaa> it would be a big project
[12:02] <leeyaa> i usually keep the system up to date by installing just security updates
[12:02] <leeyaa> and it still needs to be qaed
[12:04] <the_newbie> helo
[12:05] <k1l_> leeyaa: well, its your call. for the autoremove issue: you might have removed a metapackage which installed all these  and now they are marked as unused. you can manually mark them with "apt install package"
[12:06] <hateball> rbern: that package is just a meta-package that points to the latest kernel which is linux-image-4.4.0-28-generic
[12:06] <leeyaa> k1l_: thats plausible. you mean if i review the list, install all packages i want manually the next autoremove should skip them, correct ?
[12:07] <k1l_> yes
[12:07] <hateball> rbern: as for the release date I dont recall when it was last updated, but it's recently
[12:07] <leeyaa> makes sense. thanks!
[12:07] <leeyaa> its good since ill be able to free some 100-200MB and i need to keep the system's / on 1GB or 2GB
[12:07] <rbern> hateball, yes, now it is 4.4.0-28 but when xenial was -21. I'm upgrading and its downloading from security.
[12:08] <rbern> I guess thats the normal behavior. Debian stable sticks to the same kernel version the whole release cycle.
[12:08] <rbern> ty hateball
[12:09] <k1l_> rbern: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-meta_4.4.0.28.30/changelog
[12:09] <k1l_> rbern: so does ubuntu. one release = one kernel base. except for the LTS where you can use the backported kernel and xorg from the hardware enablement stack
[12:13] <rbern> k1l_, ty. so it's the kernel ABI that is upgraded, the kernel version will always be 4.4.0 if I dont enable backports. Got it.
[12:14] <rbern> is there an shortcut command to auto remove old kernel packages?
[12:15] <qofcheez> hey hateball any thoughts?  will the ethernet ideally still potentially work at this point, or is that now off the table
[12:15] <k1l_> rbern: sudo apt autoremove
[12:16] <leeyaa> hm how to regenerate /etc/mtab ?
[12:16] <leeyaa> i made changes to /etc/fstab but system still boots from old volumes
[12:16] <pa> will 16.04.1 have Qt 5.6 ?
[12:16] <hateball> qofcheez: well it'd at least let you install updates... in case there's some other bug preventing this from working
[12:16] <Schwarzbaer> Hi. I found that a supposed workaround to the disk problem I have is to use the kernel boot parameter "libata.force=noncq". Sysadmin told me to add that to /boot/grub/grub.cfg. That file, in turn, says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE", "It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub". Looking at those, I have NO idea at all what's going on. So how *do* I specify that boot parameter, the Ubun
[12:16] <Schwarzbaer> tu way?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:17] <hateball> Schwarzbaer: edit /etc/default/grub
[12:17] <k1l_> pa: no
[12:17] <hateball> Schwarzbaer: you'll see the line with "quiet splash", just add libata.force=noncq there
[12:17] <ducasse> Schwarzbaer: add them to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub line and run update-grub
[12:18] <hateball> and yea ^
[12:18] <paranoidabhi> how to do you report a upstream bug in ubuntu?
[12:18] <hateball> Schwarzbaer: Take it you've got a samsung ssd?
[12:18] <qofcheez> ok I'll take a rest and get a cable when the shop open.  I've been at this for hours and hours now.  my brain is fried. thanks hateball
[12:18] <rbern> k1l_, it doent work. from google one has to uninstall kernels packages manually. its a problem when upgrading a live cd but I'll work around this. ty hateball and k1l_ . Cheers.
[12:18] <pa> k1l_, ah, i thought that in addition to kernel changes, also system libraries can be changed with these .X releases
[12:18] <paranoidabhi> Can sum1 please tell which mailing list I should mail? Reference in context: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1588428/comments/23
[12:19] <pa> and qt5.6lts sounded quite alright for an ubuntu lts :-)
[12:19] <k1l_> rbern: on which ubuntu release are you?
[12:19] <rbern> xenial
[12:19] <k1l_> rbern: that should remove old kernels automatically when installing the updated kernels.
[12:19] <k1l_> rbern: can you give more details?
[12:20] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: the linux-pci list
[12:20] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, what is the email?
[12:21] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: google "linux-pci mailing list"
[12:21] <rbern> k1l_, "apt-get autoremove" returns "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.""
[12:22] <k1l_> rbern: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999" please show that url
[12:22] <ubuntu428> hI
[12:22] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, sry I can't make it out http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-pci
[12:22] <ubuntu428> Greyback: please help to install 12.04 on x3100 m5
[12:22] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: click the "subscribe" link
[12:23] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, I don't want to subscribe is the problem
[12:23] <ubuntu428> paranoidabhi : May i chat with you
[12:23] <paranoidabhi> ubuntu428, sure
[12:23] <ubuntu428> I am facing x3100 M5 with raid 1 installation problem
[12:23] <rbern> k1l_, http://termbin.com/c9cu.
[12:23] <k1l_> ubuntu428: if you name the details people will try to help
[12:24] <ubuntu428> ok
[12:24] <k1l_> rbern: so you got 2 kernels installed. which is fine.
[12:25] <Schwarzbaer> hateball, no idea, will check...
[12:25] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
[12:26] <ubuntu428> how to change name
[12:26] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, thanks so much!! Say I am using gmail, how I endure the message body is text only.
[12:26] <ibba> roomies
[12:27] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: i don't use gmail, no idea.
[12:27] <the> hi
[12:27] <ibba> running
[12:27] <ibba> root@ns1:~# lsb_release -a
[12:27] <ibba> No LSB modules are available.
[12:27] <ibba> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[12:27] <ibba> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[12:27] <ibba> Release:        14.04
[12:27] <rbern> k1l_, yes, but I wanted to upgrade a livecd so, for size matters, only one should be installed. syslinux doesnt allow to choose kernels, as grub does. No problem. I'll arrange something to "autoremove" old kernels. ty
[12:27] <the> hi
[12:27] <Guest68810> fuck everybody
[12:27] <Schwarzbaer> hateball, Intel, it seems: product: INTEL SSDSC2BW24
[12:27] <Guest68810> any one
[12:28] <paranoidabhi> the comment mentions Bjorn Helgaas, who I find his email-id. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1588428/comments/23
[12:28] <ibba> Host computer wn7 can reach the same dns server i'm pinging with no luck
[12:28] <k1l_> rbern: ah, live cd. you cant do that
[12:28] <rbern> k1l_, you shouldnt :)
[12:28] <vivek__> oi my front panel audio is not working. pls help me
[12:29] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: this is really something you need to google yourself.
[12:29] <MarkusNaslund> hey Adam_FrVancouver
[12:29] <vivek__> ubuntu 16.04 it is and it did worked with mint
[12:30] <rbern> k1l_, it can be done, I've been doing it with my tool. The problem is if there are 2 kernels. But that's solved in my tool. It's just the question of removing the old kernel.
[12:30] <ducasse> vivek__: run pavucontrol and check that the right output is selected and not muted.
[12:30] <Schwarzbaer> hateball, ducasse, so, like this? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash libata.force=noncq"
[12:31] <rbern> k1l_, manually, of course
[12:31] <ducasse> Schwarzbaer: yep :)
[12:31] <MarkusNaslund> hejj hateball
[12:31] <hateball> Schwarzbaer: was just out of curiosity, I have samsung which are common to have that issue. but I know others have it as well so
[12:31] <hateball> Schwarzbaer: and yea that looks fine
[12:31] <Schwarzbaer> hateball, so it's not actually a software problem, but a true hardware/hardware incompatibility?
[12:32] <madhu__> Hi
[12:32] <adsf> anyone else have loads of mdadm issues after upgrades?
[12:33] <vlt> ashmew2: Yes.
[12:33] <vlt> ashmew2: sorry
[12:33] <madhu__> keeran: may I communicate with you
[12:33] <adsf> hehe
[12:33] <vlt> adsf: ^
[12:33] <adsf> :)
[12:33] <adsf> my array just refuses to mount, doesnt seem like any drives are dead
[12:33] <paranoidabhi> what does upstream mean?
[12:33] <vlt> adsf: cat /proc/mdstat
[12:33] <madhu__> Hi paranoidabhi
[12:34] <madhu__> I quited to change my name
[12:34] <adsf> vlt: nada cus assemble says 2 drives are missing
[12:34] <madhu__> I trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on x3100 M5 with bios  raid 1.
[12:35] <madhu__> array creating readonly and unable to write partition info on disk
[12:35] <leeyaa> k1l_: lol apparently nodejs was marked as unused because i had stopped the service - how silly
[12:35] <ducasse> madhu__: have you tried software raid?
[12:35] <paranoidabhi> madhu__, I don't know man! I am caught in messy ubuntu bug tracking.
[12:35] <leeyaa> weirdly enough apache was stopped too, but it was not marked as unused
[12:35] <madhu__> Ducasse : it is working on sw raid
[12:35] <leeyaa> not sure how this is supposed to be working
[12:36] <madhu__> Ducasse : trying to install bios raid 1
[12:36] <ducasse> madhu__: then use that. bios raid is usually crap.
[12:36] <madhu__> Ducasse : to know the problem. I explalin the problem
[12:37] <madhu__> Ducasse : raid 1 is creaing but array in readonly. partition not storing on disk. saying that operaiton not permitted to write
[12:37] <vivek__> oi ducasse thanks mate
[12:38] <ibba> setting up a dns server
[12:38] <ducasse> madhu__: yes, bios raid is crap and known to cause problems - use mdadm instead.
[12:38] <madhu__> Ducasse : x3100 M5 new server
[12:38] <ibba> Cannot reach beyond the GW on vmware player :(
[12:38] <madhu__> Ducasse : ok
[12:40] <adsf> vlt: so it seems to think one of the drives is inactive now
[12:40] <adsf> vlt: md0 : inactive sdd1[3](S) sdc[2](S) sda[0](S) sdb[1](S)
[12:40] <adsf> and lots of spares it seems
[12:42] <adsf> examine output https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a3103bf22f18cb262176dcf0a3c322e9
[12:42] <leeyaa> nice, now i can fit into 1.5GB /
[12:43] <madhu__> Ducasse : what is /dev/md126_raid1
[12:44] <ducasse> madhu__: i'm guessing that is your bios raid device
[12:45] <madhu__> Ducasse : understand it is in Readonly Mode.
[12:45] <ducasse> madhu__: i understand that.
[12:46] <madhu__> Ducasse : Because partition info is not saving on hdds.
[12:46] <Schwarzbaer> How can I check with what parameters the currently running kernel was started? 'Cause apparently, *that did nothing* with regards to my problem.
[12:47] <ducasse> madhu__: no, it won't if the device is read only. this might be a problem with your bios raid, i can't help you with that. i've told you what to do instead, and it's a much better solution.
[12:48] <ducasse> Schwarzbaer: cat /proc/cmdline
[12:49] <Schwarzbaer> Thanks... Yeah, libata.force=noncq, but I still got a very similar error, and BOOM, FS is read-only.
[12:49] <vishvajeet> hello can someone tell me why my usb modem is not detected?It is visible in lsusb but gnome-ppp says modem not found
[12:50] <madhu__> Ducasse : thanks. I am trying to understand the concepts
[12:51] <ducasse> madhu__: i strongly recommend you not waste more time on bios raid.
[12:52] <vishvajeet> How can we find dev path of usb modem
[12:52] <vishvajeet> ?
[12:52] <madhu__> Ducasse : I am going to install sw raid only
[12:53] <madhu__> Ducasse : thanks for the suppor
[12:53] <ducasse> madhu__: do that, it's much better.
[12:54] <madhu__> Dicasse : Where to  get  documentation if any problem occur
[12:56] <ducasse> madhu__: start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID - there is also a page on mdadm on the debian wiki, probably the arch wiki too
[13:01] <wh0ami> Hi Ukraine !
[13:01] <madhu__> Ducasse : The documentation is useful. Thank you
[13:01] <wh0ami> Или русс
[13:02] <wh0ami> Who have aircrack-ng sources give ne a link
[13:02] <wh0ami> Me**
[13:03] <ducasse> madhu__: this looks good: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/RAID
[13:08] <madhu__> Ducasse : Thanks again. I am studying the article
[13:10] <ducasse> madhu__: you're welcome. you will also find it much easier to get support for mdadm raid.
[13:12] <zteam> wh0ami, sudo apt-get source aircrack-ng
[13:13] <zteam> wh0ami, ?
[13:13] <wh0ami> Thanks!
[13:13] <EonUmbreon> Hi... I am running Ubuntu GNOME.
[13:13] <EonUmbreon> I just removed plymouth, and now GDM wont startx when I hit log in
[13:13] <Qommand0r> EonUmbreon: good
[13:13] <EonUmbreon> However
[13:14] <EonUmbreon> If I open a TTY and run startx, it is fine
[13:14] <EonUmbreon> Any ideas?
[13:14] <zteam> wh0ami, I have not checked if the source package for aircrack-ng is in the repo but if it is, that command should get it for you :-)
[13:14] <Guest89955> Hi all im back last week i had really messed up pc from installing windows 10 that and then Ubuntu Mate that messed up all my loader i was not able to boot into bios or make any f keys work from bios and boot , so i took my self patient did google ubuntu low level formatt commands from Terminal  , and finally did remove Ubuntu Mate , then i did usb key boot and nuke and did low level formatt and bang here i am with shiny new windows
[13:15] <EonUmbreon> This is a fresh install too, I just didnt want plymouth installed :/
[13:15] <zteam> EonUmbreon,try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[13:16] <EonUmbreon> zteam ok will do :) I am just upgrading my software from apt, so I cant call dpkg till that has done. Will give it a try in a second :)
[13:16] <Guest89955> so thanks all who supported me i did this all by intuition
[13:16] <Guest89955> ##hardware
[13:17] <madhu__> Ducasse : Ok
[13:17] <philm88> I'm running cron in the foreground with; cron -f in a docker container. Is there a way to get it to output log info to stderr/stdout too?
[13:17] <EonUmbreon> philm88 tee?
[13:18] <philm88> EonUmbreon: I'm not seeing any output from cron -f - so nothing for tee to redirect
[13:18] <EonUmbreon> philm88 oh. Um... I will have a think
[13:19] <zteam> EonUmbreon, :-)
[13:20] <philm88> EonUmbreon: thanks (:
[13:21] <ducasse> philm88: i think you can set rsyslog up to output messages from cron to the console - would that work?
[13:21] <EonUmbreon> It is weird cause if I uninstall plymouth it removes lightdm and if I remove gdm it installs plymouth and lightdm again :D
[13:21] <EonUmbreon> ** :S
[13:23] <philm88> ducasse: potentially - I'll take a look. Although, this is in a docker container and my understanding of docker containers is they're generally not meant to be running too much in terms of background services like rsyslog
[13:23] <liaoan> hello
[13:23] <zteam> EonUmbreon, if you have aptitude installed you can ask it why it want to remove or install a certain package
[13:26] <zteam> EonUmbreon, if not you can install it by just running sudo apt-get install aptitude
[13:26] <EonUmbreon> It is apparently because of Nvidia drivers requiring it..but i dunno why
[13:26] <zteam> EonUmbreon, now can run aptitutude why plymouth
[13:27] <EonUmbreon> Oh. Apparently GRUB wont recognise my keyboard now either
[13:27] <EonUmbreon> Gimme a sec :) thanks for this btw
[13:27] <EonUmbreon> Oh! It logged in ^.^
[13:27] <EonUmbreon> Yay!
[13:28] <zteam> EonUmbreon, you can also use aptitude to ask why it not like install a certain package, with aptitude why-not packagename
[13:28] <EonUmbreon>  Oh nice! thank you!
[13:28] <EonUmbreon> Do you know why grub would not want to let me give keyboard input?
[13:29] <neufeld> Asi
[13:29] <m1dnight_> Im looking around to get ubuntu dual booted on my macbook. What would be the most stable way?
[13:29] <Guest32468> my soundcard dont work in mint cinnemon, help ?
[13:29] <neufeld> Whats your name
[13:29] <zteam> EonUmbreon, bascially aptitude is like apt-get on steroids (but it's a little bit less automatic)
[13:29] <Guest32468> Ola
[13:29] <Palm_premium> m1dnight_: I would be interested in this as well
[13:30] <neufeld> no
[13:30] <neufeld> s
[13:30] <neufeld> s
[13:30] <neufeld> s
[13:30] <neufeld> s
[13:30] <neufeld> s
[13:30] <neufeld> s
[13:30] <wh0ami> Hacked 72528663984419~48824*
[13:30] <EriC^^> !mac | m1dnight_ Palm_premium
[13:30] <m1dnight_> I have found a document from cal-tech people. I will give that a shot and report back I guess.
[13:30] <EonUmbreon> zteam ah ok! I am used to using apt ._. I never understood what aptitude could do that apt didnt. Thanlk you!
[13:30] <Palm_premium> ubottu: Thank you
[13:30] <EriC^^> m1dnight_: refind is easiest
[13:31] <Guest32468> my soundcard dont work in mint cinnemon, help ?
[13:31] <k1l_> !mint | Guest32468
[13:31] <zteam> EonUmbreon, NP :-)
[13:32] <Pantsu> Guest32468: also fix your nick
[13:32] <Guest32468> ok
[13:33] <nindustries> Hi, will the new ubuntu server distribution have ZFS as a boot option ?
[13:33] <nindustries> I'd like encrypted zfs pool like in the BSD installer
[13:42] <newfield> hi
[13:42] <newfield> can i help you
[13:44] <newfield> moin
[13:53] <chefshoes> hey
[13:53] <Guest21468> exit
[13:53] <Guest21468> exit
[13:56] <Indrek> How is it possible that when my barman backup is 50gig, wal is 30gig then restore takes more than 120gb space ?
[13:56] <ducasse> nindustries: zfs is only supported for data storage
[13:56] <nindustries> ahh :/ thanks ducasse
[13:57] <m1dnight_> Just to be sure, I can use a *regular* ISO for this dual boot, right?
[13:57] <m1dnight_> Because this tutorial briefly mentions "Mac version".
[13:58] <computer> people, i have installed a program with sudo apt-get install, how do i check that it was installed?
[13:58] <ducasse> Indrek: i assume the backup is compressed
[13:58] <lyze>  computer, sudo dpkg -l | grep <program>
[13:59] <lyze> (lowercase L )
[13:59] <Indrek> WAL compression ratio: 73.42% ?
[14:00] <wh0ami> Yes
[14:01] <lyze> m1dnight_, just do the thing in mac to create a partition for ubuntu then install it normally via the iso
[14:01] <m1dnight_> Okay. I figured as much.
[14:01] <ducasse> Indrek: you could probably get better help in a postgresql channel
[14:01] <m1dnight_> Thanks for the confirmation.
[14:01] <mauriciv> computer: you can also try dpkg -s <package-name>
[14:02] <Indrek> mhh, i thought im there i had wrong channel active :)
[14:03] <mauriciv> computer: that way you get autocomplete :)
[14:08] <computer> lyze: mauriciv thanks , lyze in you example if i get a red coloured redout it means i have the package installed, if no readout it means it is not installed correct?
[14:08] <lyze> computer, corret. you can ignore the colors, it's just to highlight the search thing
[14:09] <computer> lyze: thanks :-)
[14:09] <lyze> computer, basically "dpkg -l" lists all packages and "| grep <name>" redirects the output to grep, which is a search tool and that tool finds the <name> and lists it when it has found something
[14:13] <lyze> computer, http://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=sudo+dpkg+-l+%7C+grep+test
[14:14] <computer> lyze: excllent
[14:14] <mmaheu>  /SET autocreate_query_level DCCMSGS
[14:20] <temhaa> hello
[14:20] <cuboid> temhaa: Hello
[14:20] <temhaa> What is url for network install of ubuntu
[14:21] <cuboid> temhaa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[14:21] <cuboid> temhaa: I think that is it
[14:23] <temhaa> cuboid: actually I am new in kvm. I installed that. It's asking netowrk install url to install guest machine
[14:24] <abolfazl123> I install remastersys in my ubuntu.when i make a remaster of my linux and i want test that it didn't work.my virtual box said:"FATAL:No bootable medium found!System halted."what's the wrong?
[14:26] <ducasse> abolfazl123: the image is clearly not bootable.
[14:26] <abolfazl123> so what i should do?
[14:26] <k1l_> is remastersys still a thing. thought it was dead
[14:26] <ducasse> abolfazl123: ask the makers of remastersys
[14:27] <abolfazl123> ducasse:are u kidding it's a dead project:|
[14:27] <ducasse> abolfazl123: then why are you even using it?
[14:27] <lyze> Just use a normal backup software instead?
[14:28] <abolfazl123> what is your recommend?
[14:29] <lyze> Im not backing up my system ... Im just syncing stuff I need to the cloud and that's it, you might want to ask somebody who creates some ^^
[14:30] <abolfazl123> ducasse:do know a good remastering tools for ubuntu(i googleing a lot for found remastersys...)
[14:32] <abolfazl123> ducasse: do you know a good remastering tools for ubuntu(i googleing a lot for found remastersys...)
[14:32] <k1l_> !info uck | abolfazl123
[14:33] <k1l_> abolfazl123: or use the pinguy fork of remastersys
[14:33] <cuboid> temhaa: I will look into it now
[14:35] <cuboid> temhaa: Does it need to be network install, or can you do it via ISO image?
[14:36] <ducasse> temhaa: which interface to kvm are you using?
[14:38] <cwolf> how would i go about replacing the software center in 16.04? it's horrible, but i can't find its package name in order to uninstall it.
[14:38] <ducasse> cwolf: it's called gnome-software
[14:40] <cwolf> thank you! is there a different software center i can install, or is synaptic package manager all i need?
[14:40] <ducasse> cwolf: apt or synaptic :)
[14:40] <cwolf> thanks, ducasse
[14:40] <ducasse> cwolf: np
[14:43] <cuboid> temhaa: Should be able to use the http option and use a relevant download link from ubuntu.com e.g. http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:51] <m1dnight_> I messed up with the dual boot :p :<
[14:57] <lyze> m1dnight_, nuu, what did you doß
[14:57] <lyze>  / what happens?
[14:57] <m1dnight_> For some reason I don't have an EFI partition. I did remove a small partition in GParted (when Ubuntu used to boot). I did so because I could no longer startup Refind.
[14:57] <m1dnight_> I googled that and the person said "remove the very first small partition"
[14:57] <m1dnight_> Which I did :< I should have not done that :p
[14:57] <lyze> Nope you shouldn't have done that x)
[14:57] <m1dnight_> Now when I try to run refind it says "Can not find efi partition"
[14:58] <lyze> Yeah
[14:58] <m1dnight_> Which probably was the one I deleted :>
[14:58] <lyze> because you deleted it ^^
[14:58] <m1dnight_> So now Im kinda stuck. I can't find much on google.
[14:58] <lyze> Well
[14:59] <lyze> what you could do is use grub or another bootloader for both, mac and ubuntu
[14:59] <lyze> if ubuntu still works ^^
[14:59] <m1dnight_> No, I can only boot into OSX now :D
[14:59] <lyze> Oh
[14:59] <m1dnight_> Damn my incompetence
[14:59] <lyze> Then I guess you could try to install it again ^^
[15:00] <lyze> Can't help you though sicne I need to go, sorry x)
[15:00] <m1dnight_> Yeah, that's what's not working.
[15:00] <m1dnight_> Ill give the manual install another shot. And worst case I can reinstall my OSX and start over.
[15:00] <ducasse> m1dnight_: you should just need to create a new efi partition and reinstall your boot manager
[15:01] <m1dnight_> ducasse: Might be a dumb question, but what partition scheme does an EFI partition have?
[15:02] <ducasse> m1dnight_: it needs to be a fat32 partition with code ef00
[15:07] <cuboid> temhaa: Success?
[15:11] <freedom> How do I start ftp server on public ip ?
[15:11] <freedom> Not on inet !
[15:12] <freedom> sorry including inet
[15:12] <freedom> Anybody alive ?
[15:12] <Pici> freedom: johnny five is alive
[15:13] <m00n_urn> hey!
[15:13] <freedom> !ot > Pici
[15:13] <Pici> freedom: it should be started on your public ip, you'll need to forward from your router or work with your sysadmin so you can access it from the outside
[15:15] <freedom> No I am on ubuntu and need to configure vsftpd.conf for that !
[15:15] <freedom> So just require help for that !
[15:16] <freedom> ?
[15:16] <freedom> vsftpd.conf by default doesn't enables ftp on public ip  ! Isn't it Pici
[15:19] <Pici> freedom: let me double check my config here
[15:19] <paranoidabhi> my desktop manager boot is really slow. How can I check from the logs what is causing it?
[15:20] <Pici> freedom: what do you have listen set to in vsftpd.conf?
[15:20] <freedom> NO
[15:20] <freedom> listen=NO
[15:21] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: which ubuntu version?
[15:21] <Pici> freedom: okay, so you are setup to use the inetd way, if you switch it to YES, it will run in standalone mode and not require inetd.
[15:22] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, 16.04
[15:22] <m00n_urn> bash: /usr/local/bin/: /bin/zsh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[15:22] <m00n_urn> what do i do
[15:22] <Pici> m00n_urn: what are you trying to do?
[15:23] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: 'systemd-analyze blame'
[15:23] <m00n_urn> i'm trying to run a program
[15:23] <freedom> Pici means that will listen from public by default ?
[15:23] <darsparx_> ok anyone here have any experience with msmtp on 16.04? It keeps ignoring my user config....
[15:24] <freedom> and in standalone mode will it not be accessible from internal network ?
[15:24] <Pici> freedom: it will be accessable from both the internal and external (assuming you have port fowarding setup).  If you still can't get to it from outside, be sure to set listen_address to 0.0.0.0
[15:25] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, any guesses on what the problem is http://paste.ubuntu.com/18551529/?
[15:26] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: that list is sorted by startup time for each service, so the ones on the top are the ones slowing the boot down.
[15:26] <m1dnight_> Damn OSX crap. My live usb stick won't boot either.
[15:27] <m1dnight_> In recovery mode it doesn't allow me to be unmount my main disk either.
[15:27] <m00n_urn> Pici: a bash script to be exact
[15:27] <Pici> m00n_urn: what does the first line of the script say?
[15:27] <m00n_urn> it say zsh
[15:27] <m00n_urn> i changed it to bash
[15:28] <m00n_urn> but then itthrows too many errors
[15:28] <Pici> m00n_urn: install the zsh package then: sudo apt install zsh
[15:29] <m00n_urn> Pici: will it work?
[15:30] <Pici> m00n_urn: try it
[15:30] <m00n_urn> cool
[15:30] <Pici> m00n_urn: its a small package and won't interfere with anything else
[15:30] <m00n_urn> all right
[15:32] <m00n_urn> and i get a "Error: fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted" when i try to mount a file
[15:33] <cuboid> m00n_urn: It is throwing an error, probably because it requires permissions to do the mounting (normally with sudo)
[15:33] <ducasse> m00n_urn: are you a member of the fuse group?
[15:33] <python90210> jo
[15:33] <Pici> cuboid: fuser doesn't necessarily require sudo
[15:33] <m00n_urn> cuboid: i am #
[15:33] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Try adding user_allow_other to your /etc/fuse.conf
[15:33] <m00n_urn> ducasse: when i try #groups all it shows is root so no
[15:34] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: And making sure the directory you are trying to mount to is owned by you.
[15:34] <m00n_urn> yes it is
[15:34] <cuboid> Pici: Ah okay
[15:37] <m1dnight_> ducasse: Success! Created an EFI partition with fdisk via a live disk (because recovery did not allow it) and then reinstalled refined using the installer and it works fine :)
[15:37] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: still the same i've uncommented the line too in /etc/fuse.conf
[15:38] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: When you added yourself to the fuse group, did you then log out and back in?
[15:38] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: added myself? as in...
[15:39] <ducasse> m1dnight_: great! :)
[15:40] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: type "id". Do you see "fuse" in there anywhere?
[15:40] <m00n_urn> nope
[15:41] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: sudo adduser $USER fuse
[15:41] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: done!
[15:41] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Now log out and then back in (or reboot)
[15:42] <m00n_urn> Error: fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted
[15:42] <m00n_urn> the same error!
[15:42] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Because you didn't relog.
[15:42] <m00n_urn> ofcourse i did
[15:43] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: You logged out of your entire X session?
[15:43] <ducasse> m00n_urn: do you have rights to mount on the target dir?
[15:43] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: You're on Hexchat, so I doubt it. :/
[15:44] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: it's a container. so...
[15:44] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: That could have something to do with it then. What is the exact mount command you are running?
[15:45] <juanonymous> what is bitcoin mining?
[15:45] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: mount command like the command i issued which gave me the error?
[15:45] <ducasse> juanonymous: a waste of time.
[15:45] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Yes.
[15:46] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: truecrypt -t /home/user/EncryptedFile.tc /home/user/EncryptedFileFolder
[15:47] <aforapple> hello
[15:47] <aforapple> people still use irc wow
[15:47] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Pastebin the output of this please: namei -om ~/EncryptedFile*
[15:47] <juanonymous> how do i install bitcoin miner on ubuntu?
[15:48] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: the output is simple as "Error: fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted"
[15:49] <ducasse> juanonymous: apt search "bitcoin miner"
[15:49] <juanonymous> ok then how do i start mining?
[15:49] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: fusermount -u ~/EncryptedFileFolder
[15:50] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: that would unmount iirc
[15:50] <ducasse> juanonymous: read the man page.
[15:50] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Correct.
[15:50] <juanonymous> ok
[15:50] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: i haven't been able to mount it in the first place.
[15:51] <m1dnight_> Seems like Ubuntu is stuck shutting down, though.
[15:51] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Just run it. Even failed tries can stick in fuse and you have to explicitly unmount it. Happens to me a lot with sshfs.
[15:51] <m1dnight_> Is there any way I can switch from the 4 dots screen to any sensible textual output?
[15:51] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: all right
[15:52] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: fusermount: failed to unmount /root/lololo: Invalid argument
[15:52] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: You're trying to mount to /root?
[15:52] <ducasse> m1dnight_: remove 'quiet splash' in /etc/grub/default, run update-grub and reboot. you will now have a text console.
[15:53] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: no
[15:53] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Then why is "/root/lololo" there?
[15:54] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Pastebin "findmnt" for me please.
[15:54] <m00n_urn> i chaged the name from encryptedfolder to lololo, rypervenche
[15:55] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: "|-/dev/fuse        udev[/fuse]    devtmpf rw,relatime,size=1924072k,nr_inodes=20"
[15:56] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Pastebin please.
[15:56] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: The whole thing.
[15:56] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: all right
[15:57] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: https://0x0.st/Ayd.txt
[16:03] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: ?
[16:05] <hispeed67> tried both ubuntu studio 16.04 and ubuntu 14.04.03 and both kernel panic after boot on the language selection screen
[16:06] <hispeed67> i select english, next screen, i select install and then kernel panic
[16:10] <ducasse> hispeed67: file a bug, maybe?
[16:10] <hispeed67> swapped out single 8g stick for 2 4g sticks and it went away
[16:11] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: I have a feeling it's due to the container. I think I've exhausted my resources. Hopefully someone else here can help
[16:11] <ash_workz> is there a channel for meld?
[16:11] <hispeed67> apparently laptop doesn't support 8G sticks
[16:11] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: okay. Bu-but would i have the same problem with a vps too?
[16:12] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: No.
[16:12] <ducasse> ash_workz: doesn't look like there is one on freenode, check their web page.
[16:12] <m00n_urn> what if it is a openvz container and not a kvm one, rypervenche ?
[16:12] <ash_workz> ducasse: thanks
[16:13] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Ah, it's KVM? Then you shouldn't have problem with that.
[16:13] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: and openvz?
[16:13] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Still shouldn't have a problem, but it's still possible I suppose.
[16:13] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: thanks a ton m8! :)
[16:14] <ducasse> m00n_urn: openvz is quite similar to lxc, so you might get the same problem.
[16:14] <litago> how do i automate an ssh connection in terminal? i ssh to my vps where i got irssi. im manually ssh with ip, password . can i save my ssh connection in terminal? and add a command to go into my screen where irssi is running
[16:14] <rypervenche> litago: You should use SSH keys.
[16:15] <m00n_urn> ducasse: oh. But xen and kvm aren't affected if i'm right?
[16:15] <ducasse> litago: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSH_keys
[16:15] <rypervenche> litago: And if you are too lazy to type "screen -x" you can add it to your .bashrc. I would recommend using tmux instead though.
[16:15] <m00n_urn> litago: add an alias too
[16:16] <ducasse> m00n_urn: i wouldn't think so, they virtualize the whole system.
[16:16] <m00n_urn> ducasse: ah yes.
[16:16] <litago> thx guys
[16:17] <juanonymous> ducasse: how do you earn from bitcoin?
[16:18] <ducasse> juanonymous: you need a specialized setup, but it's not an appropriate topic here.
[16:20] <test> HAHAHA
[16:20] <juanonymous> i see. so let us say i have the setup.. i could earn bitcoin everyday?
[16:20] <ducasse> juanonymous: it's not an appropriate topic here.
[16:20] <SCHAAP137> juanonymous: #bitcoin
[16:20] <juanonymous> what is funny test?
[16:21] <ducktape> fresh 16.04 install no sound
[16:21] <Smoth> Hi guys just installed ubuntu 16.04 on the company laptop, but I have a problem with the wifi: in the live the wifi is working but if I select 'install thrid party software (includes wifi)' the wizard hangs so I installed ubuntu without the third party software
[16:21] <Smoth> but now I don't have the wifi and I am a bit confused on what to do
[16:22] <Smoth> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] (rev 34)
[16:22] <Smoth> ^ that's the card
[16:22] <ducasse> ducktape: install and run pavocontrol, make sure the right output device is selected and not muted.
[16:22] <ducktape> oi mate i am vivek__
[16:22] <ducktape> i have done that but
[16:23] <ducktape> same thing is there once i rebooted the machine
[16:24] <ducasse> ducktape: i think you need to specify the default output device in the pulseaudio config
[16:26] <ducktape> and how to find that mate
[16:28] <DeMiNe0> Can someone tell me exactly what assigning 0.0.0.0 as an interfaces IP does? I'm setting up KVM with several tagged vlans inside a lab network attached to our main network. In order for systems to see eachother I needed to make the IP of the tagged bridge 0.0.0.0.
[16:28] <DeMiNe0> My understanding is that 0.0.0.0 is an alias for all attached IP's
[16:29] <DeMiNe0> But in this case, does that simply tell ubuntu that the interface has no IP?
[16:30] <ducasse> ducktape: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145135/set-default-sound-device-output
[16:31] <kernelhacker> Do you guys knows there is a lot of kernel documentation for Linux on kernel.org?
[16:33] <nacc> kernelhacker: there's a lot of kernel documentation in the source, which is hosted (and browseable sort of via git) on kernel.org...
[16:33] <nacc> kernelhacker: but kernel.org is mostly a source mirror (and distro mirror)
[16:33] <kernelhacker> And then there is this: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/
[16:33] <kernelhacker> I don't use git to browse kernel documentation
[16:34] <nacc> kernelhacker: do you use git to browse the source? there's a Documentation/ directory ...
[16:34] <kernelhacker> No, you can download it directly
[16:34] <nacc> kernelhacker: i'm 99% sure what you linked to is just the Documenation/ directory from the source tree
[16:34] <kernelhacker> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/log/?id=refs/tags/v4.7-rc6
[16:35] <nacc> kernelhacker: sorry, were you asking *if* there was a lot of such documentation on kernel.org?
[16:35] <kernelhacker> No. And why are there so many drivers in the Linux kernel for ancient devices? Appletalk is not used anymore, neither is amiga stuff
[16:35] <nacc> kernelhacker: offtopic for this channel.
[16:36] <kernelhacker> What channel is good for that kind of disscussion?
[16:36] <nacc> !alis | kernelhacker
[16:36] <ducasse> kernelhacker: ##linux
[16:36] <nacc> ##linux, probably; maybe #kernelnewbies on OFTC
[16:39] <Great> hello
[16:44] <anonymous_> Help Me
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> anonymous_  start with a question
[16:45] <tgm4883> !help | anonymous_
[16:45] <anonymous_> oke
[16:45] <anonymous_> wait
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> anonymous_  in one line an use a pastebin if needed ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:47] <anonymous_> what do you mean? i dont know
[16:48] <anonymous_> I'm a newbie here, I tried and I tried to exploit Armitage My experiment laptop but why no login menu
[16:48] <anonymous_> please answered my question
[16:48] <ikonia> you're trying to exploit software, but you can't login to your ubuntu machine
[16:49] <ducasse> anonymous_: yeah, i don't think you're going to get any help with that here...
[16:49] <anonymous_> I'm so confused, I have a laptop with OS Windows 7, while on Linux only be exploitable
[16:50] <anonymous_> Oke Thanks for your answered
[16:50] <anonymous_> where places can answer me?
[16:50] <dax> is this part of a class, or...?
[16:51] <ducasse> anonymous_: are you running kali?
[16:52] <anonymous_> no, i'm running in backbox
[16:52] <dax> ask the backbox people, then
[16:52] <ducasse> anonymous_: then go ask them.
[16:52] <dax> !backbox
[16:52] <anonymous_> linux previous times but the error
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> anonymous_  you're in the wrong channel
[16:52] <anonymous_> OMG, sorry
[16:53] <anonymous_> I think it is one distro of ubuntu
[16:53] <anonymous_> okey thanks
[16:53] <anonymous_> I think it is one distro of ubuntu
[16:56] <Great> Hey is it possible to manage ftp through script ?
[16:56] <tgm4883> Anonymes: see the message from ubottu above, it's not supported here
[16:56] <nacc> Great: what do you mean by "manage ftp"? do you mean interact with the command-line client?
[16:56] <nacc> tgm4883: i think they left
[16:57] <tgm4883> nacc: ha, so they did. didn't even notice the incorrect tab complete
[16:59] <Great> nacc : I meant if script can be used by client for easy connectivity or interface !
[16:59] <tgm4883> Great: well for starters, we wouldn't suggest ftp
[17:00] <tgm4883> Great: but I don't see why you couldn't script it
[17:00] <Great> tgm4883: One issue with that !
[17:01] <dlpsankhla> I'm a beginner C++ programmer and I want to contribute to Ubuntu. How can I start? What are the prerequisites?
[17:01] <Great> I need to know the errors like if Host unrechable and action based on that !
[17:02] <nacc> dlpsankhla: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[17:02] <Great> tgm4883: Is there an effcient way to do so!
[17:02] <tgm4883> Great: using a bash script you could probably use 'expect' for that
[17:03] <tgm4883> Great: I'd do it in python, but I'd also use SFTP instead of FTP
[17:03] <Great> expect ?
[17:04] <Great> Would you please elaborate a little for that ?
[17:04] <Great> I think its like exception handling in java ?
[17:04] <ducasse> Great: 'apt install expect'
[17:05] <rypervenche> Great: Why not use scp?
[17:05] <tgm4883> Great: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/10/expect-examples/
[17:05] <tgm4883> Great: but seriously, FTP is insecure
[17:06] <rypervenche> Great: I guess what is your ultimate goal? You just want something easy for users?
[17:07] <Great> ya rypervenche
[17:07] <Ryuken> How do you install a app from command line using a .debian.tar.gz file?
[17:07] <nacc> Ryuken: you don't?
[17:07] <rypervenche> Great: Then I might go with filezilla or something.
[17:07] <Ryuken> nacc: Then how do I
[17:07] <Ryuken> If it's not available in a package
[17:07] <nacc> Ryuken: well, i mean, that suffix doens't really mean anything (beyond it being a gzipped tarball)
[17:07] <tgm4883> Ryuken: what app?
[17:07] <Ryuken> haxe
[17:08] <Ryuken> https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/haxe/1:3.0.0~svn6707-4
[17:08] <Ryuken> I'm using a debian VPS
[17:08] <Ryuken> Command line only interface
[17:08] <nacc> !info haxe
[17:08] <nacc> Ryuken: shouldn't you be asking in a debian channel?
[17:08] <nacc> Ryuken: fwiw, haxe is also in debian...
[17:08] <tgm4883> Ryuken: seems to be available in the repos
[17:09] <Ryuken> It's not available on Jessie
[17:09] <Ryuken> Won't install with apt-get
[17:09] <tgm4883> Ryuken: why are you here if you are using Jessie?
[17:09] <nacc> Ryuken: true, you didn't specify, it's in stretch & unstable. But offtopic for this channel
[17:09] <ducasse> Ryuken: then install ubuntu :)
[17:10] <Ryuken> I have other things on the VPS already set up
[17:10] <Ryuken> I would prefer not to reinstall if I have to
[17:10] <nacc> Ryuken: you seem to be ignoring the fact that you are on Debian and asking for support in an Ubuntu support channel...
[17:10] <rypervenche> Ryuken: Don't mix Ubuntu and Debian. And you should be asking in #debian.
[17:12] <Great> By the way is there a way I can check that whether a given address can be connected through ftp without actually executing ftp command ?
[17:12] <Great> means ftp server enabled on that?
[17:12] <tgm4883> Great: no
[17:12] <Ryuken> I thought Ubuntu was based off Debian
[17:12] <tgm4883> Ryuken: it is
[17:13] <ducasse> Ryuken: yes, but they're not the same.
[17:13] <tgm4883> Ryuken: but that doesn't mean that Debian is supported here...
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> Ryuken  what's wrong with the Debian channel
[17:13] <tgm4883> Ryuken: honestly, I'm not even sure how one could make that conclusion
[17:14] <Great> tgm4883: sure ?
[17:15] <tgm4883> Great: pretty sure. I mean you could check if the port was open, but that wouldn't tell you if anything was listening on the other side. You could check if you could connect to the port, but that wouldn't tell you if the credentials were correct without passing them
[17:15] <tgm4883> Great: at that point, you might as well just run the ftp command
[17:16] <tgm4883> Great: sure there is some information you could get from connecting to the port to see if an FTP server is listening, but I'm not sure why you wouldn't just use FTP for that
[17:19] <jonny5000> I am remoting into my 14.04 machine using chrome remote desktop, and it serves up only a desktop.  No unity, no launcher, no seeming access to programs other than what is placed on my desktop, which does allow me to open chrome, and whatever programs come up in right click.  my question is, is there a way for me to get a full session here?  I think i found a workaround online but it requires getting into terminal, which i ca
[17:19] <jonny5000> nnot seem to figure out how to do
[17:20] <compdoc> you need a desktop that supports it
[17:20] <jonny5000> compdoc, what?
[17:20] <Great> tgm4883: Difficulty to manage with the error it produces !
[17:20] <compdoc> I use Mate
[17:21] <Great> tgm4883:
[17:21] <compdoc> but there are a few
[17:21] <jonny5000> compdoc, I cannot install a client on the computer from which i am remoting
[17:22] <compdoc> jonny5000, then how are you doing it?
[17:22] <tgm4883> Great: I'm not sure I understand. You want users to run this script. If an error occurs, they should just contact the admin with the error message. Why do you need some complicated script to handle errors
[17:22] <jonny5000> chrome remote deskop is a chrome extension.  but i cannot install any further programs on this computer.
[17:23] <dellhem> Hi. Trying configure a mobile connection, but I don't get an option to connect. Any ideas?
[17:23] <Great> tgm4883: Not precisely talking but it produces some unexpected errors like Connection refused even when server is not available.
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> dellhem  mobile, as in mobile phone?
[17:24] <compdoc> jonny5000, what desktop is installed on the remote?
[17:24] <dellhem> MonkeyDust - No, I have a SIM card reader in my PC
[17:24] <tgm4883> Great: you'll need to figure some way to check that then I suppose. I've already said I wouldn't suggest FTP, so I'm going to bow out at this point
[17:24] <tgm4883> compdoc: my guess would be Unity, since he said that isn't coming up
[17:24] <jonny5000> compdoc, ubuntu 14.04
[17:25] <dellhem> MonkeyDust: So I'm configuring a new connection in the network manager. But it doesn't allow me to connect.
[17:26] <compdoc> Unity doesnt work for remote desktop. maybe someday
[17:26] <jonny5000> compdoc, a workaround for it but i need to get to terminal
[17:27] <nacc> compdoc: jonny5000: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/1649523?hl=en implies that it uses unity 2d by default on 12.04+
[17:28] <tgm4883> nacc: I didn't think unity 2d existed anymore
[17:28] <nacc> compdoc: jonny5000: but seems like you just put whatever you need in your session file
[17:28] <nacc> tgm4883: ack, it seems written specificlaly for 12.04
[17:28] <nacc> which does have some implication of how well-tested/supported it might be :)
[17:30] <goddard> any projected timeline for amd drivers for 16.04?
[17:31] <tgm4883> goddard: I thought they were released..
[17:31] <compdoc> didnt they just release a new AMD driver?
[17:32] <Pantsu> goddard: you can use any of radeon, amdgpu and amdgpu-pro right now
[17:32] <Pantsu> goddard: ymmvw with all of them though
[17:32] <Pantsu> none of them offers a consistent performance
[17:33] <goddard> i am seeing nothing in additional drivers
[17:34] <goddard> still getting errors with steam as well
[17:35]  * tgm4883 wonders what the current recommended way to install amdgpu-pro is
[17:37] <genii> !info xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[17:37] <tgm4883> genii: that's amdgpu, but what about amdgpu-pro
[17:38] <tgm4883> genii: amdgpu pro is the proprietary stuff
[17:41] <ducasse> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx
[17:41] <Guest26147> oi
[17:43] <lucidguy> I'm accustomed to using the interface files for network configuration, should I start using Network manager?  This is for an office deployment.
[17:43] <lucidguy> All hardwired with no DHCP
[17:43] <lchampion> teste
[17:44] <Eu333> hello!
[17:45] <ducasse> lucidguy: i would use the interfaces file, easy to deal with.
[17:47] <IronY> So I am on 4.6.2
[17:47] <IronY> But I am still not seeing usb 3.1 support
[17:48] <IronY> aside from upgrading the kernel, is there anything I am missing?
[17:49] <placebo> clear
[17:50] <ruicruz> hello. is there a way to use my wireless card not to connect with other networks but to create a wireless network that others can connect to?
[17:51] <enoch85> hey guys, I need to install Ubuntu desktop temporarily on a Ubuntu Server 16.04. How do I completley remove Ubuntu-desktop + dependencises to get back to the regular Ubuntu Server again?
[17:51] <lucidguy> ducasse: I agree, will do.
[17:51] <strayArch> If I use awesomewm alternative in unity, how can I provide  '--no-argb' as an arg to awesome
[17:53] <Great> Hey I want the use redirection operator upto a particular point (some particular line or statement) at runtime !
[17:53] <Great> Any way to do so ?
[17:53] <Great> *use of
[17:53] <ducasse> Great: scripting questions belong in #bash, for instance. i suspect you've been told this earlier today.
[17:57] <lucidguy> What happend to good old fashioned eth0 naming etc .. now I got enp2s0?
[17:57] <galgamach> hello. I figured out that there are no drivers for AMD Radeon R5 330. Does this also mean that there is not Catalyst? Can I connect my laptop with a HDMI cable?
[17:58] <ducasse> lucidguy: look up "predictive interfaca naming"
[17:58] <akik> lucidguy: it's systemd's predictable interface names. you can go back to old naming with net.ifnames=0
[17:58] <lucidguy> I'm guessing I should accept the future and this is how things will be.
[17:58] <Ryuken> How do I check if a port is blocked?
[17:59] <akik> lucidguy: well it's your choice
[18:00] <lucidguy> Hmm, i'm guessing every computer will have a different name
[18:00] <lucidguy> nic name
[18:00] <lucidguy> If so, that does suck for cloning/deploying multiple systems
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> lucidguy  you mean hostname?
[18:01] <lucidguy> network card logical name
[18:01] <satheesh_> i
[18:01] <satheesh_> hi
[18:01] <nils_> I would say they may be somewhat more deterministic actually
[18:02] <nils_> on some system I had eth0 and eth2 switch places between reboots...
[18:02] <lucidguy> I was talking about predictable network interface device names
[18:03] <lucidguy> no worries, reading up on it now.
[18:03] <Jordan_U> galgamach: For Ubuntu 16.04 forward there are no Catalyst/fglrx drivers. There are only open source kernel drivers (the old "ati" and the new "amdgpu"). There is a proprietary userland available but A: It's still in Beta B: It's only for cards supported by the new AMDGPU driver C: People primarily want it only if they want Vulcan support D: The Free drivers now do fairly well compared to the old fglrx
[18:03] <Jordan_U> for most cards. I don't know off hand if your particular card is supported by AMDGPU or not.
[18:04] <akik> udev has rules to keep the names connected to certain mac addresses
[18:06] <galgamach> Jordan_U: So let's break this down a bit. amdgpu are the new open-source drivers for Radeon graphics card that comes with the 16.04 kernel right?
[18:24] <lucidguy> I immediately remove nouveau and install nvidia drivers, do most do that?
[18:24] <dax> galgamach: R5 330 would use the default radeon driver, I'm pretty sure
[18:24] <Jordan_U> galgamach: Correct. And the older open source radeon open source drivers are also available in 16.04, but not the old fglrx drivers.
[18:25] <gronke> I just installed Chrome. How do I make it a clickable icon to launch from my sidebar instead of having to type "google-chrome" from a terminal window?
[18:25] <galgamach> dax: what does this mean? That the only available driver is the one that comes with the 16.04 kernel ? Is it efficient? Why can't I connect with HDMI ?
[18:26] <dax> galgamach: yes, I don't know what "efficient" means here, and I don't know since HDMI works fine with radeon on my 7870
[18:26] <chadwin>  
[18:27] <galgamach> dax: "efficient" means.. does this it give the full capabilities of the graphics card ?  And all you do is just connect the cable and that\s it?
[18:28] <galgamach> dax: also inxi -F gives me the following on the graphics section: http://pastebin.com/PQaCdVrX
[18:29] <galgamach> Card-1 i the intel integrated one... and Card-2 it the Radeon. Which one am I using at the moment ?
[18:31] <goddard> when will the additional amdgpu features be released?
[18:47] <ice> how are you guys
[18:47] <Guest62595> fala leo
[18:48] <grub_ul> test
[18:53] <Brint> How to connect to this channel (same place) except from freenode
[18:54] <Brint> btw how to specify ip and inet address while connecting from ftp command ?
[18:54] <Pici> Brint: this is freenode.
[18:54] <Brint> ohk now my second question ?
[18:54] <Pici> Brint: irc.ubuntu.com points to chat.freenode.net
[18:54] <DaniKitten> Hello, are there good window managers?
[18:55] <DaniKitten> Lightweight window managers
[18:55] <bilb_ono> when I do a blank install of ubuntu, after it installs, in the boot menu, I see only one option under UEFI - ubuntu. This is the one I want correct?
[18:55] <nacc> DaniKitten: yes, there are
[18:55] <DaniKitten> names?
[18:55] <Brint> hmm Actually I'm frustrated with this recaptcha !
[18:55] <nacc> DaniKitten: cf. xubuntu, lubuntu, etc.
[18:56] <Brint> Totally frustrated !
[18:56] <Brint> btw how to specify ip and inet address while connecting from ftp command ?
[18:56] <ioria> DaniKitten, wm or DE ?
[18:56] <Croepha> what package provides the QMediaPlayer header file, I expected there to be libqt5multimedia-dev package but it doesn't seem like there is one... ??
[18:56] <genii> DaniKitten: Also, Openbox
[18:57] <Brint> Pici btw how to specify ip and inet address while connecting from ftp command ?
[18:57] <Pici> Brint: I don't know what that would mean.
[18:57] <ioria> DaniKitten, if wm  , twm, fluxbox, openbox and may others
[18:57] <ioria> *many
[18:58] <Brint> ip for public ip and inet for private ip
[18:58] <nacc> Croepha: qtmultimedia5-dev
[18:58] <DaniKitten> is jwm good?
[18:58] <nacc> DaniKitten: this is not a channel for polling/opinions, really
[18:58] <Brint> Anybody knows ?
[18:59] <ioria> DaniKitten, if you want practice , i can suggest evilwm
[18:59] <nacc> Brint: your question doesn't really make sesne, what do you mean "public" and "private" IP?
[18:59] <Croepha> nacc: Thanks
[19:00] <wallbroken> hi
[19:00] <nacc> Croepha: in the future, use `apt-file` to search for files in packages
[19:00] <wallbroken> live cd is on ubuntu itself?
[19:00] <wallbroken> or is a different disk?
[19:00] <ioria> wallbroken, depends on what you downloaded
[19:00] <Brint> nacc : If you don't know public and private ip how can you say it doesn't makes a sense !
[19:01] <wallbroken> http://www.ubuntu-it.org/download
[19:01] <nacc> Brint: in the context of ftp, those terms don't make any sense.
[19:01] <wallbroken> i downloaded this
[19:01] <ioria> wallbroken, mini and server are not live , desktop is
[19:01] <yohan> spanish?
[19:01] <wallbroken> no, italian
[19:01] <yohan> italian?
[19:01] <wallbroken> yes
[19:01] <Guy1524> hey guys, is there any workaround for installing the fglrx drivers on 16.04
[19:02] <Brint> private ip is assigned to manage lan ! and public ip to manage global address !
[19:02] <nacc> Guy1524: no, AMD is not supporting it there, amdgpu is the way forward
[19:02] <ioria> wallbroken, yes, that is desktop edition
[19:02] <razor1101> Subnet addresses?
[19:02] <Croepha> nacc: Good info, thanks again :)
[19:02] <Brint> ip that is assigned when you connect to your wifi is private !
[19:02] <nacc> Brint: i think you are using the wrong terms, but ok; what do you want to know about for ftp? to specify where to ftp to? you can specify that on the command-line.
[19:03] <Brint> need to access ftp externally (not on the same network)!
[19:03] <Brint> that's the query !
[19:04] <Brint> same network (private or lan)!
[19:04] <Aunk> hallo
[19:04] <tamaid> hi
[19:04] <Brint> *ftp server i mean
[19:04] <tamaid> i need information to run illustrator on ubuntu
[19:04] <nacc> Brint: you are not being very clear, you stated, within two statements, "not on the same network" and "same network". State clearly, in one line (with no "!") what you are trying to do. e.g., are you trying to ftp from serverA to serverB? and they are not on the same network?
[19:04] <tamaid> any idea? thnx!
[19:05] <nacc> tamaid: you mean adobe illustrator?
[19:05] <Guy1524> nacc: I have a 5000 series card though
[19:05] <Brint> trying to ftp from client to server and they are not on the same network !
[19:05] <Guy1524> is there a workaround to getting it?
[19:05] <Brint> sorry for !
[19:05] <ericb2> tamaid, Adobe(C) Illustrator.exe   ? :-)
[19:06] <Guy1524> even if it isn't supported
[19:06] <Brint> Now clear
[19:06] <nacc> Guy1524: not as I understand it, no -- but i don't use the driver, so not sure
[19:06] <nacc> Brint: why doesn't `ftp <server>` not work?
[19:06] <tamaid> yes, i want to move to ubuntu but i need it for design
[19:06] <nacc> Brint: or `ftp`; and then 'open <server'
[19:07] <nacc> tamaid: you would probably need to ask adobe about that?
[19:07] <nacc> tamaid: afaict, it's not packaged w/in Ubuntu
[19:07] <tamaid> read something about inkscape but it takes time to get to know it and need to work now
[19:07] <ericb2> tamaid, probably using wine, or a Virtual machine, like Virtualbox, or any commercial and similar software
[19:07] <nacc> tamaid: inkscape, gimp, etc. I guess it depends on what you need to do
[19:07] <ericb2> tamaid, FYI, I got an old MS Office, working well on Linux ( x86_64)
[19:08] <ericb2> .. using Wine, I must add
[19:08] <Brint> no that requires the address of the system on that address !
[19:08] <Guy1524> that sucks ):
[19:08] <tamaid> ok thank people !
[19:09] <nacc> Brint: you want to ftp to a server but don't know the server's IP?
[19:09] <nacc> Brint: when you said "not on the same network" earlier, did you mean you can't reach the server (routing?)?
[19:12] <Brint> how many devices can you connect to the same router or in other words one public address ?
[19:12] <Brint> And do they all get same ip ?
[19:13] <Brint> nacc
[19:13] <nacc> Brint: connecting devices to the same router does not give them the same public address. Only teh router has the public address.
[19:13] <Brint> I mean to clear you what I'm refering to for private addr here !
[19:13] <tamachi> hey i'm back
[19:14] <Xin> omg
[19:14] <Xin> tamagotchi
[19:14] <nacc> Brint: a device's address and how it might be accessible are not the same thing.
[19:14] <tamachi> trying to install inkscape it seems to there be something like locked
[19:14] <tamachi> displays this lines
[19:14] <nacc> Brint: i think you are trying to talk about "internal"ly and "external"ly addressable networks
[19:15] <nacc> tamachi: you would have to use `sudo apt install inkscape`
[19:15] <nacc> !sudo | tamachi
[19:15] <tamachi> "E: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 temporarily unavailable)
[19:16] <tamachi> is another process using it?"
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> tamachi  paste this line, in a terminal ... sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[19:17] <tamachi> understand
[19:17] <gronke> how do I make a find command that only shows results for what I want, I have something like: find -iname myfolder | grep myfolder ??
[19:17] <tamachi> is it posible that it is runing that process because i'm installing something else??
[19:18] <nacc> gronke: ... how do we know what you want?
[19:18] <nacc> gronke: what are you trying to do?
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> gronke  what do you want to find?
[19:20] <moein> hi
[19:20] <Guest82390> hi
[19:20] <Guest82390> can I ask questions about KVM in ubuntu here?
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> tamachi  keep it in the channel
[19:21] <nacc> !ask | Guest82390
[19:21] <gronke> nacc, I am trying to only show results for myfolder, if I type find -iname myfolder it just spams my screen with all of the output of the search
[19:22] <nacc> gronke: please pastebin the top of the output
[19:23] <Guest82390> I'm trying to run Windows 7 through KVM on Ubuntu 16. Is it possible to open an existing Windows installation or must I create a new Windows?
[19:23] <bilb_ono> any tips when the "ubuntu" option under UEFI doesn't load- just a blank screen? The installation says it completed successfully
[19:23] <rabbitdew> !patience
[19:24] <nacc> Guest82390: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Windows7Install ... not really specific to Ubuntu
[19:24] <Guest82390> Thanks!!
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> Guest82390  better ask in #kvm
[19:24] <gronke> nacc um, I mean it's like all the results of the search. So, everything.
[19:24] <nacc> Guest82390: i'm honestly not sure if you can easily 'migrate' an existing windows installation to a guest; I'm guessing not, as it needs some driver help
[19:24] <bilb_ono> hmm well it says "no bootable devices" Thats probably the issue. Weird that the install says it completed successfully though
[19:25] <nacc> gronke: please pastebin your output; as it's working fine here, based upon strictly what you've described
[19:25] <nacc> gronke: or even just a few lines of the output (with the exact command used)
[19:25] <gronke> it's showing all this permission denied stuff, and I just want it to show only the folders that match it. It's okay, I'll figure it out. thanks!
[19:26] <Guest82390> ok, I saw an option in Virtual Machine Manager "Import existing disk image". I guess that's not it?
[19:27] <nacc> Guest82390: i guess that might work; but based upon that kvm page, i think windows doesn't "just work" as a guest, it needs some assistance (not sure, and MonkeyDust is probably right as it's a general question about kvm)
[19:27] <ioria> gronke, find . -name filename   2> /dev/null | grep filename
[19:30] <Guest82390> I wonder if it's possible to buy an image with all the configurations installations I want pre-made. Would that work?
[19:31] <Guest82390> Like, suppose I wanted Ubuntu with KVM with Windows 7 virtualized. Could I pay someone to create an ISO that would auto-install all that from a USB?
[19:31] <Guest82390> Or it wouldn't work because my computer is unique?
[19:33] <nacc> Guest82390: well, you need a license for windows, right? so they can't give that to you on an ISO, aiui
[19:33] <paranoidabhi> hi guys
[19:34] <paranoidabhi> I am using kubuntu 16.04, the latest kernel 4.4.0.28. I installed 4.7 which worked fine(I was able to boot into it).
[19:35] <paranoidabhi> But now I cannot boot into 4.4.0.28 my earlier kernel. It is shown in Advanced options at the time of the boot. After kubuntu boot screen, kde doesn't load in it.
[19:36] <paranoidabhi> I am able to ctrl+alt+f1 and check the kernel version.
[19:36] <paranoidabhi> any ideas what is happening?
[19:36] <Brint> hey It feels to me that man for ftp isn't just complete!
[19:36] <akik> Brint: it's very hard to understand you
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> Brint  tell it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:37] <Guest82390> couldn't I just give my license number to whoever is creating the ISO?
[19:37] <Guest82390> Or... create it without registering Windows?
[19:38] <nacc> Guest82390: ... dunno, but i think we're offtopic now
[19:38] <Guest82390> oh, you mean off-topic of the Ubuntu room?
[19:38] <Brint> It doen't even specifies the -s option that is for reading commands from text file ?
[19:38] <nacc> Brint: no such option in my ftp.
[19:38] <Brint> Anyone familiar with ftp working?
[19:39] <nacc> !ot | Guest82390, yea
[19:40] <Brint> watch this if you don't know about -s http://ss64.com/bash/ftp.html
[19:40] <Brint> it's first option
[19:41] <nacc> Brint: why would you read some random webpage's manpage. On 16.04, ftp has no -s option.
[19:42] <paranoidabhi> I am bit confused, how does kernel and ubuntu work.
[19:42] <paranoidabhi> ubuntu latest kernel is 4.4.. but the actual latest one is 4.7
[19:42] <nacc> !latest | paranoidabhi
[19:42] <ioria> paranoidabhi, it may depends on your video drivers or on the way you used to install 4.7
[19:43] <paranoidabhi> does ubuntu make changes to the kernel before installing?
[19:43] <nacc> paranoidabhi: it's not "4.4" which would imply 4.4.0, but it's 4.4.0-28 (at this point), which means 28 sets of patches have been applied
[19:43] <nacc> (at least 28, i guess tehcnicallyh)
[19:43] <k1l_> Brint: that could be due to the version of ftp in that website and the one used in your ubuntu release
[19:43] <nacc> paranoidabhi: that question is very vague, but yes, the ubuntu kernel is not just '4.4.0' unmodified
[19:43] <paranoidabhi> nacc, i installed 4.7rc which works ok. Should I downgrade?
[19:44] <nacc> paranoidabhi: you should not run the mainline Linux kernel unless you have a very good reason to, and know what youa re doing.
[19:44] <nacc> paranoidabhi: particularly not an RC kernel
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> paranoidabhi  trey removing 4.7 and then boot into 4.4
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> try*
[19:45] <Brint> cool now I'm taking it direct to the issue if you couldn't get it till now !
[19:45] <Brint> I started the vsftpd server and can't access it from a system not in the same lan ! Now you have to reason it why ?
[19:45] <scg> hey everyone! If I want to be involved in the community and start helping the project, where can I start?
[19:45] <paranoidabhi> MonkeyDust, why is removing 4,7 necessary?
[19:45] <nacc> scg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[19:45] <paranoidabhi> Can't use multiple kernels.
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> paranoidabhi  why is having it necessary?
[19:45] <ioria> paranoidabhi,  usually you install a new (unreleased) kernel when you have a piece of hardware not working ....
[19:45] <paranoidabhi> MonkeyDust, Testing a upstream bug.
[19:46] <paranoidabhi> ioria, yes. That is my case.
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> paranoidabhi  first try a solution with the mainline kernel, you can ask here for help
[19:47] <samwilliam> Brint, seriously, did you check if the vsftpd status?
[19:47] <ioria> paranoidabhi,  so, have you tried to restart the dm, ot another de, or remove any proprietary video drivers or stuff like that ?
[19:47] <k1l_> !contribute | scg
[19:47] <paranoidabhi> okay I am reposting my question.
[19:47] <paranoidabhi> I am using kubuntu 16.04, the latest kernel 4.4.0.28. I installed 4.7 which worked fine(I was able to boot into it).But now I cannot boot into 4.4.0.28 my earlier kernel. It is shown in Advanced options at the time of the boot. After kubuntu boot screen, kde doesn't load in it. I am able to ctrl+alt+f1 and check the kernel version.
[19:48] <Brint> samwilliam: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18577201/
[19:48] <Brint> proof
[19:48] <k1l_> scg: there are several different teams/sections you can help. that depends on your skills and/or interests.
[19:48] <ioria> paranoidabhi,  oh, i see
[19:48] <wallbroken> i started ubuntu live, and i want to access to ntfs hard disk to save data and write it on another external hard disnk ntfs, is possible?
[19:49] <paranoidabhi> ioria, no. I thought it would work, why caused it not to? I am a bit confused.
[19:49] <nacc> Brint: sounds like a basic routing problem. Is the port for ftp open to that server to systems outside your newtork?
[19:49] <scg> ubottu, k1l_: thanks!
[19:49] <nacc> Brint: note that ftp is incredibly insecure, and doing so probably exposes your system to vulnerabilities
[19:50] <k1l_> Brint: there is already a sftp server included in ssh. so you can use that with your ssh account.
[19:50] <samwilliam> nacc is right, give a try to sftp
[19:50] <nacc> paranoidabhi: you *are* able to boot into it. not being able to boot into a kernel would mean you'd get a panic, or oops or some error. Your DM/DE is not loading, which ioria tried to give some hints on.
[19:51] <samwilliam> but if the problem is inside your LAN, check your config
[19:51] <Bashing-om> scg: Another starter for contributions to the community : http://cheesehead-techblog.blogspot.com/2015/10/point-new-participants-to-find-task.html .
[19:51] <Brint> samwilliam : what config?
[19:51] <paranoidabhi> nacc, 1.but what caused it not to work 2. which hints, sorry not sure?
[19:51] <samwilliam> /etc/vsftpd.conf
[19:52] <ioria> paranoidabhi,  you can always reinstall the kernel with sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[19:52] <samwilliam> also check your firewall
[19:52] <Brint> it is ok with that. Btw what is the command to check port forwarding status ?
[19:53] <paranoidabhi> ioria, True but I have not uninstalled anything.
[19:53] <ioria> paranoidabhi,  it's odd, i see
[19:53] <nacc> paranoidabhi: i don't know what might have changed to break things, sorry
[19:54] <nacc> paranoidabhi: < ioria> paranoidabhi,  so, have you tried to restart the dm, ot another de, or remove any proprietary video drivers or stuff like that ?"
[19:54] <nacc> paranoidabhi: or inspected the logs for what might have failed
[19:54] <Brint> samwilliam : I think you are familiar with inet and ip address ?
[19:56] <Brint> To further clarify I need to add that ftp is accessible from within same lan !
[19:56] <paranoidabhi> nacc, which one /var/log/syslog?
[19:57] <samwilliam> Brint, that is not a big deal
[19:58] <samwilliam> you can use netstat to check your ports
[19:58] <Brint> samwilliam : then I think you know the format to specify the ip and inet address while using ftp commnd ?
[19:59] <Brint> Or in other way I can scan for open ports on my address with some utility ! Right samwilliam ?
[19:59] <samwilliam> netstat
[20:00] <Brint> netstat then ?
[20:00] <nicomachus> Brint: netstat will do the job. check out the man page for it
[20:01] <samwilliam> or nmap also
[20:01] <akik> Brint: to check open ports on your machine "netstat -tulpan | grep LISTEN". to check open ports on another machine "sudo nmap ip.add.re.ss"
[20:02] <akik> Brint: but for ftp client, it's just "ftp ip.add.re.ss"
[20:02] <samwilliam> nmap -Pn IP_ADRESSS -p PORT_NUMBER
[20:03] <nacc> Brint: your ftp server, is it on a public IP?
[20:03] <Brint> Ohk I used Angry ip scanner to scan my address and that shows open ports including 21
[20:04] <nacc> Brint: or is it on an internal IP and behind a router or whatever
[20:05] <kulelu88> Hi all
[20:06] <nessus_> just a query. can you not just install the gui version of nmap. it provides pretty great options.
[20:06] <Brint> nacc : In the beginning I asked you for public and private ip specification format in ftp and you replied back saying that doesn't makes sense !
[20:07] <akik> Brint: you give the ftp client the ip address of the ftp server. that's it
[20:07] <samwilliam> Looking for security, ftp doesn't make sense at all
[20:07] <nacc> Brint: because it doesn't (stop using ! as your only punctuation.). You ftp to an IP. It doesn't matter if it's public or private (your terms) or internal or external to your network configuration. I think you are misunderstanding, basically how networking works. And i don't htink you should be setting up an Ftp server (which *is* insecure) if that's the case.
[20:08] <jdo_dk> What is the best indexer to ubuntu ? I want to find all files which contains a specific word / sentence on a server.
[20:08] <ahtik> I'm somewhat troubled with ubuntu crontab syntax for intervals.  10 * * * * ls works but 10/10 * * * * ls is giving "bad minute" error. Any ideas?
[20:08] <akik> ahtik: you probably want "*/10 * * * *"
[20:09] <jdo_dk> ahtik: What do you want? If you want every 10 minute, try */10
[20:09] <kgirthofer> hey all - my computer is constantly slow loading websites - even local pages. Chrome always just hangs on "waiting for $HOSTNAME$" any ideas where to start?
[20:09] <Brint> Well my ftp server is connected to internet via wlan0 !
[20:10] <ahtik> akik: I'd like to start from :10.  But yea, now I realize that 10/10 would still include :00 either way so */10 would be correct.
[20:10] <jmspeex> So I just tried updating a 14.04 VM to 16.04 and somewhere in the distupgrade it crashed and now I can't even boot it as it won't recognize my disk encryption password
[20:11] <jmspeex> Has anyone encountered that before?
[20:11] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | jmspeex
[20:11] <akik> ahtik: i think */10 starts on the tenth minute, not on 0
[20:11] <samwilliam> Brint, a recommend you read about ftp, network, and security before put it out.  PLease, don't make your server a zombie
[20:12] <jdo_dk> akik: Im pretty sure */10 equal, 0,10,30,40,50
[20:12] <jmspeex> Oh, so 16.04 isn't even out? I'm not sure what it updated to then :-(
[20:12] <k1l_> jmspeex: no. the official lts upgrade is to the 16.04.1
[20:12] <k1l_> jmspeex: what exact command did you use to upgrade?
[20:13] <Pici> jdo_dk: and 20
[20:13] <jdo_dk> Pici: Yeah, forgot 20. :p
[20:14] <jmspeex> k1l_: I could tell you for sure if I still had my history :-(. Some command-line tool with the -d option
[20:14] <ahtik> akik: jdo_dk: yea, */10 would start from 0. But as I have two cron rows that should not overlap, I'd need to start the second row with :10 and was hoping 10/10 would just exclude the first full hour  tick. Back to the drawing board I guess.. :)
[20:14] <jmspeex> which didn't complete the update, so I had to manually do an upgrade -f and then a dist-upgrade (which is the one that crashed)
[20:14] <k1l_> jmspeex: yeah, that -d is for "developer". you did the developer upgrade to 16.04 since the LTS path is not opened until 16.04.1 is released
[20:15] <jmspeex> so there's no 16.04 (with no .1)?
[20:15] <akik> ahtik: you could experiment with 1-59/10
[20:15] <jdo_dk> ahtik: How about: 5,15,25,35,45,55 and */10 for the other one ?
[20:16] <ahtik> akik: that would run 1,11,21,31 etc.
[20:16] <k1l_> jmspeex: sure there is. but the direct upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 is opened when 16.04.1 is released. since you use LTS, you dont want hasty upgrades
[20:16] <jmspeex> Ah I see
[20:17] <k1l_> jmspeex: so look at the logs what is going wrong.
[20:17] <jmspeex> kl23: I have no logs, I can't even get to the encrypted disk
[20:17] <jmspeex> I meant k1l_
[20:17] <k1l_> uh, even encrypted. remove the "quiet splash" from the kernel line and see what it shown
[20:18] <kulelu88> in this explanation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server#Import_existing_cached_Packages   ... is apt-cacher simply doing a symlink to my main /var/apt/cache/ or is the command actually pulling in all the .deb packages?
[20:19] <intriga> des
[20:21] <slinkp> Are there Unity themes that modify window chrome to  add a bottom border?  I'm not a fan of the modern borderless thing.
[20:22] <kulelu88> slinkp: you want a windows-xp like bottom menu?
[20:22] <slinkp> kulelu88:  i can't remember what XP looks like :)
[20:22] <slinkp> i've been using xubuntu almost exclusively for the past couple years, just recently trying unity again
[20:23] <slinkp> hmm this is interesting http://askubuntu.com/questions/448204/how-do-i-add-a-border-around-windows-but-keep-the-current-theme
[20:23] <ahtik> jdo_dk: akik: 5,15.. */10 combo would lose my inner full hour intervals.. I have two crons, "*/15 10-14 * * *" and "*/10 14-20 * * *" and have to figure out a way to avoid the overlap at 14:00 but head is exploding with that :)
[20:24] <Dinosaurio> Hey, octave: get out of here
[20:24] <ahtik> I guess just have to build one extra cron row for that 14:00 hour
[20:27] <afeijo> hey folks, I need to create a new live usb drive. I started the Create Disk app here in my Ubuntu 16.04 x64, but it is missing the "Reserve space to documents" section
[20:28] <afeijo> I need it to be persistent
[20:29] <PaulStuf1> hello everyone
[20:32] <nessus_> afeijo, you are using the "Startup Disk Creator"?
[20:32] <akik> afeijo: do you think it has been removed from the startup disk creator?
[20:32] <afeijo> nessus_: yes
[20:33] <afeijo> akik: I dont know, I use it rarely. Today its missing
[20:33] <akik> afeijo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/772093/where-is-the-persistent-option-for-startup-disk-creator-in-16-04
[20:34] <akik> afeijo: "* Update UI and frontend code to drop the persistence widgets."
[20:34] <samwilliam> afeijo: You can try Unetbootin
[20:34] <apawl> Have a question on /etc/profile vs /etc/profile.d -- Are all of the scripts under the latter automatically run each time a new shell is started?
[20:34] <apawl> I just want to set some "global" environment variables
[20:34] <akik> afeijo: you can create a ubuntu installation on the usb stick though
[20:34] <apawl> trying to figure out if it makes sense to do that in /etc/profile? or /etc/profile.d/my_vars or something
[20:35] <afeijo> akik: omg
[20:35] <akik> afeijo: the askubuntu.com page refers to mkusb which could be used instead
[20:36] <afeijo> akik: I created with that app, but its missing the persistent feature
[20:36] <afeijo> akik: I will try mkusr
[20:36] <afeijo> mkusb*
[20:37] <akik> removing options seems to be a trend
[20:37] <jaz> Hello every one ;)
[20:38] <PsychoBoB> hggdh, don't be rude with me
[20:39] <hggdh> PsychoBoB: keep in topic.
[20:39] <afeijo> akik: except for MS, they add new shit all the time
[20:39] <PsychoBoB> I want know what is elementary os
[20:39] <PsychoBoB> just it
[20:39] <PsychoBoB> =(
[20:39] <PsychoBoB> You'll to ban here too?
[20:40] <Matsuzaka> Who the fu** has created recaptcha and the biggest fool in the world is who maintains wechat.freenode !
[20:40] <Matsuzaka> It took me more than 10 minutes to join up !
[20:40] <k1l_> Matsuzaka: critics about the webchat are better suited in #freenode .since we dont run that
[20:40] <Matsuzaka> Frustrating .............
[20:40] <Dinosaurio> Matsuzaka: Some #freenode faggot
[20:41] <Dinosaurio> it's full of them, especially those who're voiced
[20:41] <PsychoBoB> I just ask about elementary and... puuum ... banned =(
[20:41] <hggdh> Dinosaurio: not here, please
[20:41] <xangua> ! Language
[20:41] <Guy1524> Guys I really need help, in ubuntu 16.04, whenever I launch an application, unity doesn't recognize it and it doesn't show up as open in my taskbar and I can't alt+tab to it
[20:41] <k1l_> PsychoBoB: stop it asap. or you get banned again
[20:41] <PsychoBoB> asap?
[20:41] <PsychoBoB> what' it?
[20:42] <hggdh> PsychoBoB: pare. Aqui a paciencia é menor.
[20:42] <Pici> Matsuzaka: feel free to use a real irc client, like hexchat, if you don't like webchat.freenode.net
[20:42] <k1l_> as soon as possible. dont play dumb. we had a long discussion the last time i banned you. you said you will follow the rules. last warning now!
[20:42] <PsychoBoB> hggdh, deve ser igual a sua?
[20:42] <PsychoBoB> tolerancia zero?
[20:42] <etropes> hombre alguien falando spaniardish
[20:42] <Guy1524> I am really confused why this is happening, it was working but then I reboot and it stops working
[20:43] <Matsuzaka> hexchat an app?
[20:43] <Pici> Matsuzaka: it is.  its in the ubuntu repos, and is also available for other OSes, like Windows if you are connecting from there.
[20:46] <Guy1524> guys, desktop-file-validate returns this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18580976/
[20:46] <Pici> !info hexchat
[20:46] <precise|srs> Ok, so I'm running a KVM instance with Ubuntu Server 16.04, I have set /etc/network/interfaces to assign ens3 a static IP, I have restarted networking via both '/etc/init.d/networking restart' and 'service networking restart'. ens3 still has a DHCP assigned IP... What gives?
[20:47] <akik> precise|srs: it's a known bug that it doesn't work
[20:47] <precise|srs> Ok, is there a known workaround?
[20:47] <akik> precise|srs: try ifup/ifdown
[20:48] <cristobal> any way to make a usb from ubuntu to install on a mackbook pro? all documentations requires to format the usb from mac os and i cant do that any how to is wellcome :P
[20:48] <precise|srs> I just cycled through ifdown ens3 then up, now dice...
[20:48] <precise|srs> Are there seperate config files for ifup/ifdown?
[20:48] <akik> precise|srs: oh 16.04. sorry i must be tired. it was a problem earlier
[20:48] <precise|srs> Oh, no problem :)
[20:48] <precise|srs> Could it be a conflict between the KVM NIC and Ubuntu NIC?
[20:49] <akik> precise|srs: did you try systemctl restart networking.service ?
[20:49] <precise|srs> Just did, still nothing...
[20:49] <precise|srs> I have the KVM NIC set to bridge through my ethernet card, could that be an issue?
[20:49] <Guy1524> guys, I really need help and I have been asking this question for days yet people rarely respond
[20:51] <akik> Guy1524: have you checked whether it has launched into another workspace ?
[20:51] <Guy1524> I dont have multiple workspaces enabled
[20:51] <precise|srs> akik: https://askubuntu.com/questions/766131/set-static-ip-ubuntu-16-04
[20:51] <precise|srs> Tangently related, but I guess there is no harm in trying XD
[20:51] <akik> Guy1524: i had one person wonder about this and it was in the non-enabled workspace
[20:52] <Guy1524> basically when I click on the icon in the taskbar, it flashes and opens and keeps flashing then goes back to like its not open
[20:52] <Guy1524> just enabled workspaces, same problem
[20:53] <precise|srs> That has happened to me on occassion Guy1524, generally fixed itself on reboot. More often than not it happens when I am using a lot of resources.
[20:53] <akik> precise|srs: ifdown works with 16.04 systemd (with /etc/network/interfaces)
[20:53] <Guy1524> the applications launch, but unity doesn't recognize that it launched
[20:53] <Guy1524> precise|srs: this remains after reboot
[20:53] <akik> Guy1524: the application wasn't in the other workspace ?
[20:53] <Guy1524> no, the application opens, but ubuntu doesn't know that it opens
[20:53] <Guy1524> so it isn't in alt+tab or show as open in the taskbar
[20:54] <precise|srs> akik: I just rebooted the server and it is now the static IP I was trying to set. I don't think this is Ubuntu completely, I think this may be KVM, specifically virt-manager giving me grief :P
[20:54] <akik> Guy1524: you switched into the other workspace and it was empty?
[20:54] <ericrajuin> (script-fu:25911): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: script-fu: gimp_wire_read(): error ///// gimp crash and throw this error when I ctrl+C, what gives ? :-(
[20:54] <precise|srs> akik: Thanks for your help though :)
[20:54] <Guy1524> yes, the application launches in my current workspace, and the other workspaces are empty
[20:54] <precise|srs> Guy1524 can you open up a console window?
[20:54] <precise|srs> Press CTRL ALT T
[20:54] <Guy1524> yes
[20:54] <Guy1524> I know
[20:55] <precise|srs> type top and hit enter
[20:55] <Guy1524> ok, did that
[20:55] <precise|srs> Do you see any processes that are taking up >90% CPU or RAM?
[20:56] <precise|srs> I am wondering if maybe you have a rougue process that is hogging resources...
[20:56] <Guy1524> no
[20:56] <Guy1524> this happens on reboot
[20:56] <precise|srs> IS this a fresh install?
[20:56] <Guy1524> pretty much, I installed it a few days ago
[20:56] <Guy1524> at first it didn't happen
[20:56] <Guy1524> but now it does for some reason
[20:56] <precise|srs> Did you check the MD5 and SHA sums of your install ISO?
[20:57] <Guy1524> ugh, no and I dont have any intention to do so as the this is the only problem and it worked in the beginning
[20:57] <precise|srs> Guy1524: FYI it takes all of 30 seconds and can save a lot of grief.
[20:57] <Mishti> Which is the package for mouse server in ubuntu ?
[20:57] <precise|srs> I don't know if that is what is to blame, but it is good practice.
[20:58] <Guy1524> ok then, how do I do it fomr command line
[20:58] <Guy1524> *from
[20:58] <Mishti> Need to access touchpad in some remote device !
[20:58] <akik> Guy1524: there's a tool called xdotool which can manipulate xorg windows
[20:59] <precise|srs> Guy1524: md5sum "your iso here".iso
[20:59] <Guy1524> l thx
[20:59] <Guy1524> *k lol
[20:59] <precise|srs> Compare the output to the sums provided by Ubuntu
[20:59] <precise|srs> ^ Can be found in the cdimages downloads directory.
[20:59] <Guy1524> k
[21:00] <Mishti> Is there any type of mouse server available in ubuntu ?
[21:01] <akik> Guy1524: also wmctrl can manipulate windows
[21:02] <Guy1524> ok, the md5sum is the same
[21:02] <Guy1524> akik: why would I need a program that can manipulate windows
[21:02] <Guy1524> what I want is for unity to stop messing up and recognize open windows
[21:03] <akik> Guy1524: i was just thinking that you could get that window visible first, if it saves it position on exit etc.
[21:03] <Guy1524> I can open the windows fine
[21:03] <Mishti> Nobody knows?
[21:04] <akik> Guy1524: you were just saying that the program opens but you don't see it
[21:04] <Guy1524> this is getting frustrating, the windows do open, but unity doesn't recognize that they are open, therfore I can not see them in ALT+TAB or as open in the taskbar
[21:04] <Guy1524> I can see it on the screen, but not in the task bar or ALT+TAB
[21:04] <akik> Guy1524: install wmctrl, then use "wmctrl -l"
[21:04] <akik> haha
[21:05] <Guy1524> what would that do?
[21:06] <Guy1524> akik: wmctrl -l recognizes all open windows
[21:07] <djapo> join bladeRF
[21:07] <Guy1524> any ideas? this is infuriating
[21:12] <Guy1524> Im going to abandon ubuntu now, this isn't worth the hassle
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> Guy1524  or use something different from unity
[21:12] <Guy1524> I like unity
[21:12] <k1l_> what program is it?
[21:14] <ph88^> how can i get this fixed ?  https://paste.fedoraproject.org/388158/14677532/
[21:14] <ph88^> i'm on ubuntu 16.04
[21:15] <Guy1524> I finally fixed it!!!!!
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> Guy1524  how did you do it
[21:15] <Guy1524> phew, that was so annoying
[21:15] <Guy1524> I went into unity tweak tool and clicked restore defaults
[21:15] <a7i3n> I also like Unity... But I like i3 better... so I run both...
[21:16] <Guy1524> and that took away everything but the wallpaper and the applications
[21:16] <Guy1524> so I went into compizconfigsettings manager
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> Guy1524  remember: ranting and cursing is the only language that every computer understands
[21:16] <Guy1524> and turned on the unity plugin
[21:16] <Guy1524> and everything works now
[21:17] <Guy1524> cya guys, sorry for getting really frustrated
[21:18] <Guy1524> oh one more question, in xrandr, if a certain resolution has 59.99 or 60.2 fps, does it pretty much mean 60?
[21:18] <Guy1524> or is the refresh rate actually something really close to 60
[21:18] <dax> it means 60
[21:18] <dax> (and I think it's Hz?)
[21:18] <Guy1524> ok thanks
[21:19] <Mishti> How to install mmlinuxserver in 16.04 ?
[21:19] <Guy1524> why does it show a number so close to 60 instead or 60
[21:20] <Mishti> apt install mmlinuxserver om ubuntu
[21:21] <Mishti> apt install mmlinuxserver gives an error !
[21:21] <Mishti> unable to locate !
[21:21] <k1l_> Mishti: there is no such package
[21:22] <juzemack> Guy1524: That's typically how you see a live display of FPS
[21:22] <davido_> Where does the bounce_key value (in accessibility | typing) get stored?
[21:23] <Mishti> I have located that in ubuntu store
[21:23] <phoenixstew> hello all, I just upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10 and since doing so, my wireless card has disappeared. If I run the old kernel, it works again (but other things break).
[21:23] <xaviergmail> Hey, is there a way I can fake a connected display adapter by jumping a dvi/vga cable? I currently don't have a monitor for my desktop PC and I'd like to boot it blindly to at least get to the lock screen at which point I can ssh/teamviewer
[21:24] <phoenixstew> I tried updating the firmware ucode file to no avail, iwlwifi spits out an error on boot that it cannot find an EEPROM which is not shown when I boot the old kernel
[21:24] <xaviergmail> (I don't know how ttys behave without a display connected either)
[21:24] <phoenixstew> Where can I begin to look for this error or is this an easy to solve problem?
[21:26] <Mishti> PLEASE specify dpkg command for .deb files ?
[21:31] <Mishti> Anybody ??
[21:31] <k1l_> what do you want to do with dpkg?
[21:32] <compdoc> sudo dpkg -i DEB_PACKAGE
[21:32] <compdoc> would have found that in dpkg --help
[21:33] <energizer> .
[21:39] <Grorco> Hello World!
[21:39] <kulelu88> when running this command:    sudo /usr/share/apt-cacher/apt-cacher-import.pl -l /var/cache/apt/archives .. is it creating a symlink or actually importing the .deb packages ?
[21:40] <Sircle> Can anyone tell me a good codec package? I see a video but no voice
[21:40] <Sircle> Can anyone tell me a good codec package? I see a video but no voice. Its .mp4
[21:41] <Grorco> Hi I don't know if I understand polkit completely, does it automate giving su privilages to apts that require it at startup?
[21:42] <kisb> Sircle, install ubuntu restricted extras
[21:42] <Grorco> Sircle, what are you watching on?
[21:42] <z0ltan> howdy, folks
[21:43] <Grorco> hi zolLtan
[21:44] <Sohron> greetings, i have a full duplicity backup of 16.04 / with all software i want, now i'd like to upgrade to a bigger SSD
[21:45] <Sohron> so, is it as straight forward as installing basic 16.04 and then doing `duplicity restore ...' and update-grub after that and a reboot?
[21:47] <Sohron> sudo duplicity restore file:///path/to/root_backup /
[21:48] <Grorco> I get a polkit error on start up most of the time, how can I tell what is causing the error?
[21:49] <SchrodingersScat> Sohron: that would at least place the files, some more is likely needed to make that bootable
[21:51] <Sohron> SchrodingersScat: setting the boot flag with fdisk to the OS partition?
[21:51] <Sircle> kisb:  I have kubuntu restricted extras already. Grorco  I am using vlc
[21:52] <Sohron> SchrodingersScat: but it will be set bootable when installing the base 16.04 to the new SSD right?
[21:52] <kisb> Sircle, if other videos work then maybe that video corrupted
[21:52] <Sohron> i'm going to create two partitions, one for the OS with 50GB, 16GB swap and rest for /home
[21:53] <Sohron> s/two/three/
[21:53] <Sircle> kisb:  no, it works on windows
[21:54] <janek> hello, when is the new Ubuntu KDE expected to be released?
[21:54] <errx> 7x
[21:55] <k1l_> janek: ubuntu releases are released at the end of april and end of october
[21:55] <SchrodingersScat> Sircle: have to watch out for grub, fstab, etc.
[21:55] <janek> thanks
[21:56] <Grorco> Sircle, if you open the sound settings does it show audio under the apps for vlc?
[21:57] <janek> Should I install the newest Ubuntu and then install KDE  or wait for the new Kubuntu ?
[21:58] <Sircle> Grorco:  yes,
[21:58] <k1l_> janek: i doubt that the latest kde will work without big changes. but the guys in #kubuntu can tell you more
[21:59] <Grorco> Sircle, have you tried a different mp4 to make sure it's not just a bad file?
[22:00] <Sircle> kisb:  no, it works on windows  <--- Grorco
[22:03] <adammm> z
[22:06] <Sohron> i'm off to bed, hilight me with a response if i missed something and i'll look at it tomorrow
[22:07] <kukku> noob question ,i know , but can we delete the the directories in ~ after make & make install
[22:09] <akik> kukku: you can delete the source and build directory
[22:11] <kukku> akik, - source directory is the main folder ,, what is built direc..??  and thanxx
[22:14] <akik> kukku: it's the same directory if you just ran configure and make in it
[22:14] <kukku> akik,  , GOT it !!
[22:14] <kukku> akik, thank you
[22:14] <Sircle> any mp4 codes?
[22:15] <Sircle> How to enforce ipv4?
[22:15] <Sircle> traceroute to chat.freenode.net (2a00:1a28:1100:11::42), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets connect: Network is unreachable
[22:16] <Summerain> cgate.it
[22:17] <akik> Sircle: you can set it up in /etc/gai.conf, the precedence lines
[22:19] <mist_> hi guys, i'm getting *ERROR* EDID checksum is invalid in my syslog and the screen is black
[22:19] <mist_> any ideas?
[22:27] <akik> mist_: try booting with the nomodeset kernel parameter
[22:30] <Glorfinde1> I am having problems installing 3rd party software from a .deb file in lxde on ubuntu studio, it opens in the "software" program, but clicking install doesn't work: the button shows that it starts but then it silently stops and returns to the state it was in
[22:31] <mist_> akik: well i get no errors but i also get no screen =/
[22:31] <Glorfinde1> fxce rather, not lxde
[22:32] <Glorfinde1> *xfce
[22:33] <akik> mist_: how about /var/log/Xorg.0.log. does it have any errors at the end?
[22:35] <bprompt> Glorfinde1:    you could always  hmm if it's just one .deb file, try to install it manually, sounds to me it may not be installing due to missing dependencies though, though the installer you're using, is not showing any errors, anyhow, try doing it manually -> sudo dpkg -i FILENAME.deb <---   then run an -> sudo apt-get check <-- to see if anything is broken, if so, then do a -> sudo apt-get -f install <- to see what action can be t
[22:37] <Glorfinde1> bprompt: ok, the first file I tried on that worked just fine, no errors and the apt-check came back clean... I'll try the next one
[22:37] <mist_> akik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18586825/
[22:38] <bprompt> Glorfinde1:   bear in mind, this is a 3rd party app, is up to the 3rd party to compile it properly for whatever system is intended to, and do any testings as needed
[22:41] <Glorfinde1> bprompt: ah, I see. Well, they both installed fine, so I guess I'll write down that command for use in the future :) Many thanks!
[22:41] <bprompt> np
[22:41] <UbuntuDude> how to make the file operation windows stay always on top of unity ubuntu?
[22:42] <bprompt> Glorfinde1:    note:   all apt-get is doing, is running a bunch of scripts that on the backend are using "dpkg" anyway, the Debian PacKaGer
[22:42] <akik> mist_: mist_ do you have any extra gfx card in your computer? it's using the vesa driver
[22:43] <d3bug> is it possible to set some compile flags and rebuild the entire Ubuntu system from source with a simple command (ie; without rebuilding each and every package independently) ?
[22:43] <akik> mist_: lshw -c video
[22:43] <nacc> d3bug: no, why would you want to do that?
[22:44] <d3bug> nacc:  because I do.  but that answers my question.  thank you for the nice and short answer.
[22:45] <Tameiki> Hello, anyone know if it exist a kind of battery overlay in CLI ? On my openbox laptop, I always use /tty1 for openbox (no problem) but I also often use /tty2 in only-cli.
[22:46] <Tameiki> I already saw battery level at uper-right corner on some laptop. (green and grey squares)
[22:47] <sweb> how can i disable backuping rules on  `ufw reset` ?
[22:48] <Glorfinde1> bprompt, wouldn't that make it an ubuntu bug that the program wasn't installing?
[22:50] <bprompt> Glorfinde1:    nope, if you buy a defective car stereo, just because is for Toyotas, doesn't make it Toyota's fault it doesn't work or has lousy reception
[22:52] <Glorfinde1> but in your analogy it wasn't the stereo that was defective
[22:57] <bprompt> Glorfinde1:     well, the glass is half-empty of half-full, it depends on where you want to look at it, the car stereo manufacturer is meant to do testings and make dead-sure it works on the intended models, they do their implementation independent of toyota, thus the stereo working or not working is indeed their fault
[23:00] <loopy> bprompt: the glass is twice as big as it needs to be ;-)
[23:00] <bprompt> yeap hehe
[23:02] <Guest65581> i have "modprobe.blacklist=radeon" in the GRUB_CMD_LINUX_DEFAULT of my /etc/default/grub. Why does sudo lspci -vnn still show the radeon driver in use?
[23:03] <Guest65581> I am using 16.04
[23:03] <Guest65581> and I have done sudo update-grub
[23:07] <Bashing-om> Guest65581: There is a control file for blacklisting . see for instance : ' cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ' .
[23:07] <OerHeks> Guest65581, i would blacklist radeon to the end of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[23:08] <OerHeks> but why would you want that?
[23:08] <OerHeks> hah, same thought Bashing-om
[23:09] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: I liked yours better :) .. Why do that ??
[23:09] <Guest65581> OerHerks, I want pci-stub and/or vfio-pci to use the radeon card instead
[23:10] <Guest65581> So that I can pass it through to a windows 8.1 VM using QEMU & the IOMMU in my hardware
[23:11] <OerHeks> oke, then you want to add it to  /lib/modprobe.d/pci-stub.conf ?
[23:11] <OerHeks> found some examples.
[23:12] <OerHeks> http://superuser.com/questions/503697/prevent-radeon-driver-from-attaching-to-specific-pci-devices
[23:12] <OerHeks> but not sure initrmfs example is still valid
[23:13] <Guest65581> OerHeks: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf is blank. is this normal?
[23:13] <Guest65581> also, I am using instructions from http://vfio.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/vfio-gpu-how-to-series-part-3-host.html
[23:13] <OerHeks> no, mine has several entries
[23:14] <ProfessorKaos64> what ubuntu package dictates your mesa stack version in use? e.g. 10.6.3
[23:14] <Guest65581> Mine has nothing at all.
[23:18] <Bashing-om> Guest65581: My blacklist file that you "might" find of use : http://paste.ubuntu.com/18589002/ .
[23:19] <Guest65581> pressing "crtl+x" in nano a few times made it show up
[23:20] <pythonsnake> can i install 4.5 on 14.04 ?
[23:21] <ddd333> so this female relative of mine keeps calling me to my house and wants to talk to me. but my intuition tells me not to answer or see her never again. is it ok to follow my instinct?
[23:21] <Guest65581> i'm not sure this is the right palce to ask that...
[23:21] <OerHeks> pythonsnake, 4.5 ?? give more details please
[23:22] <OerHeks> !ot | ddd333
[23:22] <ddd333> Guest65581: please help me. it's a quick question
[23:22] <pythonsnake> OerHeks: kernel 4.5
[23:22] <Guest65581> i suppose, pm me
[23:22] <pythonsnake> 4.5rc1
[23:22] <OerHeks> we don'tcare, this is support only ddd333
[23:22] <ddd333> Guest65581: i have my reasons to distrust her
[23:22] <Guest65581> then don't.
[23:22] <Guest65581> simple.
[23:22] <ddd333> Guest65581: thank you friend
[23:23] <Guest65581> that was.... weird.
[23:23] <OerHeks> pythonsnake, if you find one, maybe you can, but without support http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[23:23] <OerHeks> !mainline
[23:23] <CoJaBo> ..thought this was the support channel for a sec lol
[23:24] <ddd333> psychological support
[23:25] <nacc> pythonsnake: why do you want the 4.5 kernel?
[23:26] <pythonsnake> nacc: need drivers bro
[23:26] <hammer25> can I get some opinions on best tools to use to create a live USB for 16.04?
[23:27] <xangua> ! USB
[23:34] <pythonsnake> thanks
[23:40] <CountryfiedLinux> bluetooth device added successfully but failed to connect Any suggestions?
[23:42] <beaver> hello, why avidemux is no longer available in the repositories ?
[23:42] <beaver> !find avidemux
[23:43] <beaver> !find avidemux
[23:43] <beaver> :(
[23:44] <jane_doe> Hi, I was wondering how to make apache2 stop displaying info on the OS and web server versions when a 404 error happens
[23:44] <defekt> !dmesg | CountryfiedLinux
[23:44] <bprompt> beaver:    for 16.04?
[23:44] <beaver> bprompt: yes
[23:45] <K1rk> jane_doe, set up some custom error pages
[23:46] <K1rk> jane_doe, https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/custom-error.html
[23:46] <K1rk> You can make apache say whatever you want
[23:46] <bprompt> beaver:    hmmm https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avidemux   shows as "active development", so... may be upcoming
[23:47] <jane_doe> Ok thanks K1rk
[23:47] <beaver> bprompt: thank you so much for the answer
[23:47] <beaver> :)
[23:47] <elquesea> Hello, i try to install wine in lubuntu 16.04 but synaptic wants to delete almost all LXDE apps but those are the core of lubuntu, what can i do?
[23:48] <CountryfiedLinux> Connection Failed: blueman.bluez.errors.DBusFailedError: Protocol not available...
[23:49] <tortib> how can I eanble compiz in gnome3 classic?  It was enabled but it doesn't seem to be working any longer
[23:51] <lerner> i got a pdf from a teacher. He scanned it. Defectively. its 40 pages of text and its painful to read, as text is grey and not black on white. What tool can I use to dark the barely readable text?
[23:53] <defekt> CountryfiedLinux: try this page https://askubuntu.com/questions/768250/bluetooth-audio-sync-refuses-to-connect-in-ubuntu-14-04-bluez-blueman
[23:53] <jane_doe> K1kr, the link did explain how to create custom responses for each error code, but how do I know what all the possible error codes are?
[23:54] <tortib> whenever i hit the windows key in gnome3 classic the transperncy isn't working right
[23:55] <K1rk> jane_doe, there are a finite number of HTTP status codes, and not all of them are error codes.  https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html
[23:55] <K1rk> jane_doe, usually the common ones are 404, 403, and 500.
[23:57] <bprompt> lerner:    I use qpdfview, is a tabbed pdf viewer, it has an "invert colors" option, to make it white on black, if it helps :)
[23:58] <jane_doe> Wow, there are like 17 4xx error messages listed there.
[23:58] <K1rk> jane_doe, if you don't want to go to the trouble of making custom error pages for every error, you could try this solution.  http://ask.xmodulo.com/turn-off-server-signature-apache-web-server.html
[23:58] <lerner> bprompt, cant your suggestions just blacken text?
[23:58] <bprompt> lerner:    nope, hm