[00:00] <valorie> I guess I need to read the whole damn manual to figure out how to tell it to take more memory
[00:00] <OerHeks> no way to get kubuntu on that 8 gb drive, unless you try the mini iso and run > apt-get install --no-install-recommends kubuntu-desktop , this might skip enough packages.
[00:00] <ahoneybun> something is wrong with the installer
[00:01] <ahoneybun> no 8 is what VM lets it have for Ubuntu and most Linux distros
[00:01] <valorie> buh
[00:01] <ahoneybun> it's enough
[00:01] <OerHeks> warning says different :-)
[00:01] <valorie> I'm assuming I have to change it in vbox, not the installer
[00:02] <talmage> I have a problem with the panel.  It appears on the wrong monitor.  This is new.
[00:02] <talmage> I have a laptop with VGA monitor connected to it.  I want the main monitor to be the VGA.  I want the panel there.
[00:03] <talmage> When I select the VGA as the primary monitor, the panel moves to the laptop's LCD.
[00:03] <talmage> When I select the laptop LCD as the primary monitor, the panel moves to the VGA.
[00:03] <talmage> This is new as of a week or two ago.
[00:08] <valorie> btw:
[00:08] <valorie> Location:       /home/valorie/VirtualBox VMs/Kubuntu Yakkety/Kubuntu Yakkety.vdi
[00:08] <valorie> Storage format: VDI
[00:08] <valorie> Capacity:       8192 MBytes
[00:08] <valorie> I guess I can up that via the cli
[00:10] <talmage> Strange.  I fixed it by moving dragging the VGA to the other side of the laptop LCD in Display Configuratino, then clicking Apply.
[00:10] <talmage> That put the panel where I wanted it with the proper display as primary.
[00:10] <talmage> Then I rearranged the monitors again, putting the VGA in its original position relative to the LCD.  Again clicked Apply.
[00:11] <talmage> Everything is perfect again.
[00:11] <valorie> good to hear, talmage
[00:11] <talmage> Wish I knew why that worked.
[00:11] <talmage> No time to learn why.
[00:11]  * talmage waves goodbye
[00:13] <valorie> I guess I'll eat some dinner and give my brain some calories so it functions better
[00:30] <johnlittleblues> hi
[01:04] <sm00th> hello all how do I verify the gpg sig of the iso?
[01:04] <sm00th> or hash or something
[01:05] <valorie> !md5
[01:05] <valorie> sm00th: ^^^
[01:06] <sm00th> valorie, ok so no sig file only md5 hash?
[01:06] <sm00th> oh i see ok cool sha256sums.gp and sha256sums
[01:06] <valorie> well, even after increasing the size of the vm to 15 GB, I can only do manual partition, and it only shows /dev/sda and says it will use it all
[01:07] <valorie> dunno if that is safe
[01:07] <valorie> sm00th: not sure what you are asking, but md5 works
[01:10] <sm00th> valorie, i find what i need ty
[01:10] <sm00th> *found
[01:10] <valorie> great!
[01:11] <sm00th> valorie,  ic opy the sha256sums.gpg file and check that against the sha256sums.  then compare sha256 hash to file.
[01:11] <valorie> yup
[01:11] <valorie> I usually only do it if I'm encountering problems
[01:11] <valorie> because I generally dl ISOs via torrents and then seed them
[01:12] <valorie> and ktorrent automatically checks file integrity
[01:20] <sm00th> valorie, oh i need public key
[01:20] <sm00th> valorie, where do I get the public key from?
[01:21] <valorie> isn't it there on the download page?
[01:21] <valorie> where are you getting your image?
[01:21] <sm00th> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[01:21] <sm00th> woop
[01:21] <sm00th> https://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
[01:22] <sm00th> valorie,  i'm looking at this page now
[01:22] <sm00th> gonan try that command
[01:23] <sm00th> that did it ty
[01:23] <valorie> great
[01:24] <valorie> https://www.kubuntu.org/alternative-downloads has all the checksums
[01:24] <sm00th> valorie,  I got the checksum files from here https://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
[01:24] <sm00th> woop
[01:25] <sm00th> https://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
[01:25] <sm00th> woop
[01:25] <sm00th> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/release/
[01:25] <sm00th> ^  wish that was https though lol
[01:26] <sm00th> but the iso download page is https so all good
[01:26] <sm00th> hash matches
[01:27] <sm00th> its good thign they are on diff pages
[01:27] <sm00th> and domain
[01:27] <valorie> right
[01:28] <Unit193> https://kubuntu.org/alternative-downloads has them too, but likely copied from there in the first place.  cdimage is the main source though.
[02:43] <sm00th> got my kubuntu installed
[02:44] <sm00th> was unable to reboot from live cd though,  had to hard power off cause it kept spamming about something driver already registered, and something about nvidia-link
[02:44] <sm00th> was really weird.
[02:47] <sm00th> guys driver manager is not working.  it is stuck on collecting information about my system message.
[02:51] <sm00th> ok what the heck  I tried the solution here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1530523  but that command don't exist on my system!?!
[02:57] <sm00th> ok so I had to install apt-xapian-index package
[02:58] <sm00th> and now drier manager works
[02:59] <sm00th> wait a sec the latest driver for ubuntu is 361.42?
[04:02] <paranoidabhi>  any ideas on this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/795169/kde-slow-boot-on-kubuntu-16-04?
[06:32] <basilic_> Всем привет, есть кто ?
[06:37] <hateball> !ru | basilic_
[07:02] <kubast2> Hey ,how can I install kubuntu ? I just booted into live dvd
[07:02] <kubast2> I wasn't greated by installer ,nor there isn't any icon that screams "install"
[07:03] <hateball> kubast2: there should be an icon straight on the plasma desktop
[07:03] <kubast2> Desk...Ider ?
[07:04] <soee> it might not be visible due to small desktop widget size
[07:04] <soee> do you see widget in upper left corner on the screen?
[07:04] <kubast2> http://i.imgur.com/psmebaJ.jpg I think
[07:04] <hateball> ah yes
[07:05] <soee> :)
[07:05] <kubast2> had to scroll then launch the widget
[07:05] <kubast2> otherwise the whole interface froze
[07:05] <hateball> long-press left mouse on the title bar and you will be able to resize
[07:05] <soee> this bug should be fixed in next releases/update sin Xenial
[07:06] <kubast2> soee, I'm using xenial xerus
[07:06] <soee> kubast2: yes but the fix will be backported to next 16.04.x releases probably
[07:07] <soee> kubast2: after install, be sure to add backports ppa and install newer Plasma :)
[07:08] <kubast2> soee I will kubuntu-ppa/backports
[07:08] <soee> :)
[07:28] <abhvl> hi
[07:29] <abhvl> when i connect external monitor kubuntu 16.04 treats laptop monitor + external monitar as one big monitor by default. how can i turn off this default setting and make kubuntu treat these two monitors as two complete seperate display and not span desktop to these two? basically two seperate desktop for two monitors?
[07:29] <abhvl> help please.
[07:30] <soee> abhvl: ope System Settings -> Display &Monitor -> Display Configuration
[07:31] <abhvl> yes. i was there. i am helping one friend on phone.
[07:31] <abhvl> hence i need exact setting to change.
[07:31] <soee> and drag them to be position next to each other or uncheck "unify outputs"
[07:31] <abhvl> ok
[07:32] <soee> abhvl: http://i.imgur.com/YQq79Al.png
[07:32] <hateball> abhvl: also note that multimonitor support is sketchy in 16.04, you can use kubuntu backports for plasma 5.6 which works much nicer
[07:32] <soee> +1
[07:33] <abhvl> hateball, soee thanks.
[07:49] <kubast2> How can I delete last session information from tty ? I installed vbox guest additions and the whole interface was buggy ,can't launch any app nor add ppas ,I can't even switch to tty after I login.
[07:53] <hateball> kubast2: I don't quite understand, what do you mean by "last session information" ?
[07:53] <kubast2> when you have kde ,it remembers last session
[07:53] <kubast2> I've a feeling it might be why kde bugs out for me
[07:53] <hateball> ah yes, well you can tell it to not do that
[07:55] <Smurphy> System Settings -> Desktop Sessions -> Desktop Sessions Login and Logout
[07:55] <hateball> kubast2: I dont save sessions myself, but I am guessing they might be in ~/.config/session
[07:55] <Smurphy> in there activate: "Start with an empty session"
[07:59] <hateball> Smurphy: Their problem seems to be they cant get into the GUI at all, currently
[07:59] <hateball> kubast2: There is also info in ~/.config/ksmserverrc
[08:00] <hateball> kubast2: change so the line reads like loginMode=default instead of whatever it does now, in that config ^
[08:00] <Smurphy> Oh. remove the .cache directory first. and empty the .config/session directory
[08:01] <Smurphy> does the sddm start ???
[08:01] <kubast2> yes
[08:01] <kubast2> I'm able to go to tty from sddm
[08:01] <hateball> if you just change loginMode it will ignore any saved sessions
[08:02] <Smurphy> On the left side, you should be able to choose the session you want to log into -> drop-down.,
[08:02] <Smurphy> I(n sddm
[08:34] <kubast2> turned off 3d acceleration in virtualbox and it now works fine[also turned off effects to increase performance]
[08:55] <Smurphy> ok.
[09:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:30] <lethu> morning
[09:46] <pragomer_1> hi. when running dolphin with su rights via kdesu dolphin all icons are missed. I only see folder and filenames.. but no icons at all.. how can fix that?
[09:49] <lordievader> Running dolphin as root is a really bad idea.
[09:49] <lordievader> Why do you need to do that?
[09:51] <pragomer_1> i know.. its in a non-network environment. where I have to work with su rights.. its about xmount, mac-images, physical entry to harddisks and so on..
[09:56] <lordievader> Hmm, I suppose root doesn't have a full profile dir which is causing this problem... but I am not sure.
[10:06] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:10] <lordievader> Het BluesKaj, how are you?
[10:11] <BluesKaj> hi lordievader , half awake , first coffee, how about you?
[10:15] <lordievader> Slighly more awake, first coffee almost done.
[10:20] <hay207> Hi there, i can't seem to be able to install "unar" package due to dependency problems, using kubuntu 14.04 , what to do?
[10:21] <hateball> !paste | hay207
[10:21] <hateball> hay207: show us the output of running "sudo apt-get install unar"
[10:22] <hay207> http://pastebin.com/wFMyX6Xm
[10:24] <hateball> hay207: system fully updated? "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[10:25] <hay207> i will update multiarch-support
[10:25] <hay207> No, system isnot fully updated
[10:25] <hateball> A good place to start first
[10:38] <leumas> Hi All, how can my wifi connect automatically to y modem without requesting a passwod from kwallet? tired of typing passwords whenever i reboot my PC
[10:41] <hateball> leumas: in network-manager, tick the little box that says for all users
[10:41] <hateball> leumas: in the properties for that SSID
[10:42] <leumas> Thanks hateball!! Just did
[10:43] <leumas> I will chk it out when next i reboot
[10:44] <hateball> leumas: :)
[11:09] <hay207> hateball: it will be difficult upgrading the system, atleast not now , what else can i do?
[11:11] <hateball> hay207: what's difficult about that?
[11:12] <hay207> i have gnome and kde installed, it will take some time to upgrade
[11:12] <hay207> and not safe
[11:15] <hateball> So... you're saying that not updating packages to get security and bug fixes is safer? Ok then.
[11:16] <hay207> No, i m saying that upgrading whole system sometimes gets you into more trouble
[11:16] <paranoidabhi> hey guys
[11:16] <hay207> I always prefer to update certain packages
[11:17] <hateball> Yes, and now you have issues with held packages
[11:17] <hateball> What is complicated to grasp here?
[11:17] <paranoidabhi> is it somehow possible to get the kde5.7 multi-monitor fixes in kubuntu 16.04
[11:18] <hateball> paranoidabhi: I think acheronuk was looking at that, but it requires backporting Qt
[11:19] <paranoidabhi> paranoidabhi, yes, I am a bit new but different packages operate with different dependency versions. Trying to understand the issue
[11:20] <paranoidabhi> but *CAN'T different
[11:20] <hateball> To avoid breaking things in 16.04 LTS, I am guessing the solution will be to upgrade to 16.10 when that time comes
[11:21] <acheronuk> plasma 5.7 needs Qt 5.6.1 as a minimum, yes
[11:22] <paranoidabhi> acheronuk, would it possible to somehow patch separate components? Like say the multi-monitor fix.
[11:25] <acheronuk> Not sure to be honest, but I suspect that it would be far from simple, even if possible. And possibly out of scope really
[11:25] <paranoidabhi> Doubt: kde-neon which has 5.7 runs on ubuntu 16.04, which assume as kubuntu 16.04 has the old qt 5.5.
[11:26] <hateball> Nope
[11:26] <paranoidabhi> What did I miss?
[11:27] <acheronuk> I'm relatively new to the packaging, and don't use multimonitor, so it's not something I've looked at much
[11:27] <acheronuk> Neon has Qt 5.7.0 now, on Xenial
[11:29] <acheronuk> BUT neon doesn't have to integrate as a ubuntu flavour, so can overlay a new QT from their own repo without having to worry what non-kde stuff in xenial that might break
[11:30] <paranoidabhi> acheronuk, what does integrate mean here?
[11:32] <paranoidabhi> just curious. :)
[11:55] <ShalokShalom> is dragon player finally able again to play webm?
[11:56] <ShalokShalom> since i see its preinstalled at 16.04
[11:56] <lethu> ShalokShalom: it should
[11:57] <ShalokShalom> it should since the last years and dont do it
[11:57] <lethu> ShalokShalom: just tried it
[11:58] <ShalokShalom> thanks
[11:58] <lethu> ShalokShalom: np
[12:02] <BluesKaj> VLC can play webM files
[12:02] <BluesKaj> but he left
[12:02] <BluesKaj> and ffmpeg can from the terminal
[12:03] <paranoidabhi> are there any problems in installing kde-neon on kubuntu?
[12:04] <mparillo> It is not supported, and no longer recommended since they have their own ISO.
[12:07] <BluesKaj> neon has it's own fork ?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> mparillo, ^
[12:11] <mparillo> The get touchy about positioning, but any reasonable person would call it a distro once they had an installable ISO. Even distros that are not intended to be installed like Knoppix and Porteus are clearly distros. That said, once they start upgrading Qt, and some non-KDE software from the Ubuntu repositories breaks, they may say "you are on your own".
[12:12] <mparillo> So, I think if you are committed to KDE S/W, and are unwilling / unable to deal with Arch, I would recommend it.
[12:12] <mparillo> User edition of course.
[12:13] <mparillo> If you love to find bugs, etc. and are willing to deal with breakage and even suggest ways to fix it, then you can use the developer edition.
[12:15] <mparillo> ISOs here: https://neon.kde.org/download
[12:16] <BluesKaj>  I avoided neon after discovering their support wasn't up to date
[12:16] <BluesKaj> waaay back yrs ago
[12:16] <paranoidabhi> mparillo, kde 5.7 has qt 5.6 which is in conflict with xenial's qt 5.5. I am afraid if I install kde-neon on kubuntu 16.04, it would cause problems due to the qt conflict.
[12:17] <mparillo> It certainly could. If you absolutely need Plasma 5.7 today, then install the Neon ISO. If you absolutely need S/W that is in the Ubuntu repos and not in the Neon repos, then wait.
[12:20] <BluesKaj> maybe the best path is go full bore neon iso OS insall to avoid conflicts, paranoidabhi
[12:21] <paranoidabhi> BluesKaj, true. The thing I was unsure of how does kde-neon resolve the qt-conflict as it is also xenial at base.
[12:21] <paranoidabhi> Will the same issue be there at kde-neon also?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> neon must have a forum somewhere, there's no point speculating here about it
[12:24] <paranoidabhi> BluesKaj, true. :)
[12:26] <mparillo> paranoidabhi: is already in #kde-neon. The channel topic includes the a shortened URL to the forum: https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=309
[12:28] <mparillo> And they told him there that neon does not care about s/w they do not build. That is, it might work, it might not. So again, if there are apps that are critical to you in the ubuntu repos, but not in neon repos,  I would not use neon as your daily runner unless you immediately must have Plasma 5.7 or you computer is a brick. OTOH if you want to help test KDE S/W, then Neon is a great place.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> looks like it defaults and concentrates on the breeze theme which I find cartoonish, not my taste.
[12:43] <MarcoPau> Hi, is there any UI program that helps configuring the ethernet devices? Thanks
[12:49] <BluesKaj> MarcoPau,  right click on network manager>configure network connections, highlight wired connection>edit
[12:49] <MarcoPau> BluesKaj: I only see wireless connections
[12:50] <BluesKaj> MarcoPau,  well you need to have an actual ethernet cable connected
[13:04] <MarcoPau> BluesKaj: that's kinda weird. you mean I can't configure my ethernet card without actually connecting it?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> what's to configure MarcoPau? , the network manager is software theat configures the connection other than the nic driver
[13:11] <BluesKaj> MarcoPau,  what are trying to do is the question
[13:13] <BluesKaj> MarcoPau,  I see you crossposted in #kde ...wasn't the answer thay gave what nou wanted?
[13:13] <BluesKaj> nou=you
[13:15] <MarcoPau> BluesKaj: the guy said it's a distro-related issue and not kde-related, that's why I came over here and asked later
[13:53] <hay207> Hi, i get this error when installing  libobjc4:   Depends: gcc-4.9-base (=4.9.2-0ubuntu1~14.04) but 4.9.3-0ubuntu4 is to be installed,
[13:54] <hay207> what does the error means?
[14:00] <lordievader> Sounds like you are installing something thirdparty.
[14:27] <floown> Hello
[14:28] <floown> I have a problem with Korganzer, the application crash when I search a rendez-vous : http://pastebin.com/ptiKCSkM
[14:28] <floown> I have delete all my configuration files (for Korganiser), but it always crash
[14:30] <anabain> how can I tell my system to use generic video drivers? I'm one of those having issues with 16.04 because of lack of fglrx drivers for radeon, constantly experiencing awful refresh, artifacts and the like. Will switching to generic drivers solve my issues? (not going to game at all)
[14:30] <floown> * Korganizer
[14:33] <plusEV> Does anyone know how to get permanent transparency in the built in Konsole 16.04?
[14:43] <yofel> plusEV: in Konsole, right click -> edit profile -> Appearance -> select a colorscheme -> Edit -> Background transparency
[14:45] <plusEV> yofel: cool thx.
[14:45] <lethu> anabain: go to system settings then display and monitor then compositor then set tearing prevention to "Full screen repaints"
[14:57] <plusEV> yofel: http://i.imgur.com/ZW7tsB7.png
[14:57] <plusEV> =)
[14:58] <yofel> ;)
[14:58] <plusEV> looks good
[15:12] <allesz_> hi guys. I have a question about amorak. amorak cant seem to find the default audio hardware and refused to play. vlc and other players work fine though. any ideas
[15:12] <allesz_> if I configure phonon I can hear the left and right I hit apply and ok but amorak is still quiet.
[15:14] <lethu> allesz_: sudo apt install gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly
[15:31] <anabain> lethu, ok, thanx, lethu, at least it works acceptably as a workaround, but it's really annoying that many radeon users have to experience these kind of issues without being informed at update time. I really wonder if 16.04 is actually a release distro...
[15:39] <lethu> anabain: as of 16.04 the radeon driver is integrated withing the kernel, it's the open source driver, it performs quite well but not as well as the flgrx one
[15:39] <lethu> anabain: also if you have one of the newer radeon gpus you could install the "pro" driver from the amd site
[15:42] <anabain> lethu, I wouldn't expect excellent performance, what I'm talking about is about basic usability. My radeon is this: [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series] I'd say it's one of the doomed ones...
[15:43] <lethu> anabain:  then you could go back to a previous kubuntu version
[15:45] <anabain> lethu, that's why I was asking if changing to vesa or something generic would at least improve things to a reasonable working standard.
[15:45] <anabain> Before switching back to 15.10 or buying a nvdia card which works
[15:47] <lethu> anabain: I am afraid I can't help you here
[15:47] <anabain> no problem, lethu, you've been really helpful
[15:48] <lethu> anabain: :)
[15:48] <lethu> anabain: glad to help
[15:50] <yossarianuk> anabain: you should be aware selecting the 'Full screen repaints' can slow things down - a lot
[15:51] <anabain> yossarianuk,better slow than unreadable, ;)
[15:51] <yossarianuk> I had the same with intel CPU's - my 'fix' was to set the kwin vsync option to 'never'
[15:52] <yossarianuk> have you tried that
[15:52] <anabain> no, I'll check
[15:52] <yossarianuk> as that has worked on 4 different machines for me (all intel GPU)
[15:52] <yossarianuk> and you do not lose the speed
[15:52] <anabain> thanx for the hint
[15:52] <yossarianuk> (never used AMD/ATI gpu's in Linux however)
[15:52] <yossarianuk> np
[15:53] <anabain> yossarianuk, it seems to work!!! thank you very much!
[15:55] <plusEV> yossarianuk: where do you set that kwin vsync option to never?
[15:57] <anabain> plusEV,  system settings/display/monitor/compositor/tearing prevention(vsync)
[15:58] <plusEV> ok
[16:09] <plusEV> anabain: It did nothing for my screen tearing issue. Like if I run cmatrix it tears. If I zoom it out with ctrl + until I get size: 90 x 28 in my Konsole it stops tearing. I am on intel integrated as well.
[16:11] <plusEV> old laptop. I it might just be to weak. :)
[16:11] <anabain> yeah, could be
[16:11] <anabain> Sorry I can't help...
[16:11] <anabain> Are you in 16.04, plusEV?
[16:12] <plusEV> y
[16:15] <plusEV> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[16:18] <allesz_> lethu: thanks I will give it a try
[16:20] <plusEV> anabain: OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 11.2.0 I dont know if there is any better driver fro my card. :P
[16:21] <plusEV> "card"
[16:22] <yossarianuk> anabain: glad it helped
[16:22] <yossarianuk> The fact the issues are happening on both Intel and AMD GPU's surely says something is broken in kwin vsync generally...
[16:23] <yossarianuk> nvidia I have no issues
[16:23] <yossarianuk> with intel the screen is sometimes completely unusable - its totally trippy, like the end of 2001
[16:24] <yossarianuk> once I select 'never' the issue completely goes though
[16:24] <anabain> yossarianuk, then maybe it's a kwin's bug? Interesting...
[16:26] <kubast2> How well does mouse funtion work with kde connect[on live machine without VM]? How about reading files from my device ?
[16:28] <lethu> yossarianuk: the "never" vsync option workaround doesn't work for me
[16:29] <lethu> yossarianuk: I have to use the full screen repaints option
[16:29] <sm00th> hello all,  does anyone use apparmor easyprof tool?
[16:29] <sm00th> I've used it on debian, but on ubuntu it doesn't work it tells me no abstractions specified, policy groups, etc.   how do I set it up?
[16:29] <lethu> allesz_: np
[16:31] <sm00th> think I'm using wrong comand sorry
[16:31] <yossarianuk> lethu: are you just getting slight tearing or is the screen actually unreadable (the never option fixes the unreadable issue)
[16:31] <yossarianuk> i'd potentially raise a bug report also
[16:32] <kubast2> http://imgur.com/VFKWibV
[16:32] <sm00th> hello
[16:34] <lethu> yossarianuk: slight tearing
[16:45] <sm00th> hello all anyone know how I apply the hotfix mentioned for this bug report?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/apparmor/+bug/1577051
[16:54] <allesz_> lethu: still no love though
[16:55] <allesz_> lethu: is there a way to see the log file to see if there are any errors logged
[16:58] <allesz_> lethu: it works now. it must have been one of the plugins. I have disabled all of them like podcast directory and now it works!
[16:59] <sm00th> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2329968&p=13514230#post13514230
[17:02] <lethu> allesz_: good :)
[17:05] <allesz_> lethu: I saw some error message tooltips for some look up plugins but was not thinking that an error there would hinder amarok playing the songs. your suggestion with the ugly gstreamer package was great. thanks. over and out.
[17:06] <lethu> allesz_: glad I could help :)
[17:07] <sm00th> oops that was wrong bug report how do I apply hotfix from this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/apparmor/+bug/1582374
[17:08] <sm00th> valorie: amarok crashing when importing big libararies.
[17:08] <sm00th> also,  how can I shuffle my whole library on the fly?
[17:37] <brohan> hello all. I was using Kubuntu 15.04, and was upgrading to 16.04, starting with 15.10. During the upgrade I had to step away, when I came back it was stuck on the libsane with 15 minutes to go.
[17:37] <brohan> Googling this I found that i should have done the upgrade from CLI. Well, now what do i do in order to finish the upgrade/
[17:41] <nsnzero> can you launch a terminal ?
[17:41] <brohan> nsnzero: not from in the GUI, I couldn't even open the terminal in the upgrade GUI :-(
[17:42] <nsnzero> try ctrl + alt + F1
[17:53] <brohan> nsnzero: That didn't do anything :-(
[17:54] <nsnzero> is the system frozen ? try F2 instead of F1
[17:55] <brohan> nsnzero: it appears frozen. What happens if I reboot? Ultimately i want to upgrade to 16.04. I have my hdd partitioned so that my user account are on a separate partition
[17:56] <brohan> nsnzero: Can I just do a clean install of 16.04?
[17:58] <acheronuk> rebooting may allow you to get a terminal, where you could do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to see if you can get things to complete
[17:58] <nsnzero> you can just do that since your data is safe
[17:59] <acheronuk> or as you say start from scratch with a new install
[18:02] <brohan> Ok. I haven't done a fresh install with having separate partitions. What do I need to do to get the install to recognize them, and link my existing home directory partition, vs creating a new one and overwriting?
[18:07] <nsnzero> brohan:  try acheronuk suggestion
[18:08] <nsnzero> the installer can a resize exisitng partitions during a fresh install  and you can copy your home directory across
[18:17] <brohan> nsnzero: Will try acheronuk suggestion with doing an dist-upgrade
[18:18] <acheronuk> brohan: you may be lucky and have that and/or a little 'apt-get install -f' or similar complete things. sometimes it works on a stalled install. sometimes not
[18:59] <matt__> Helo. I have a problem with Kmail. I created gmail account. I can't unsubscribe folder. I right click to account name, then 'Manage local subscriptions' and 'Unsubscribe' and then, nothing happens. Nothing becomes unsubscribed, it's like slot for this button is empty. Anyone knows how to unsubscribe given folder?
[19:13] <ahoneybunn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFnG9kBdY9M
[19:13] <ahoneybunn> show
[19:16] <ahoneybunn> #KubuntuPodcast
[19:23] <paranoidabhi> folks any ideas on this  http://askubuntu.com/questions/795169/kde-slow-boot-on-kubuntu-16-04?
[19:26] <matt__> About 1min on hdd is pretty normal. I remember having 1 min on ubuntu some releases ago.
[19:26] <matt__> It sucks I know.
[19:27] <matt__> Considering the fact that on the same laptop, windows 7 boots in ~20seconds ;/
[19:27] <paranoidabhi> matt__, I am using ubuntu 16.04 with dual windows 10 is considerable faster.
[19:27] <paranoidabhi> ubuntu=kubuntu
[19:32] <matt__> What DE do you use with Ubuntu?
[19:34] <paranoidabhi> matt__, I am using kubuntu 16.04 with kde 5.6.5
[19:37] <matt__> Ahh sorry didn't understand your previous message. The only thing that comes to my mind, that could speed up boot time is, disabling splash screen ( System Settings - Workspace Theme - Splash Screen - > None ) Oh and you can also change plasma to start with an empty session ( System Settings - Startup and Shutdown - Desktop Session -> Start with an empty session )
[19:54] <TBotNik> All: Keep getting the error: "The file /home/user/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/ProcessTable.sgrd does not contain valid XML.".  I removed/purged ksysguard, rebooted and re-installed but still get the error!  Any ideas why?
[19:57] <TBotNik> All: Someone said I need to remove all the ksysguard files after my purge.  Which are those?/
[20:38] <matt__> Kubuntu 16.04. Why after I click reboot or shutdown there is a long delay during which I can drag and open new windows/apps? Screen goes dim but I have much time to do things before the system shuts down.
[20:39] <matt__> Why the shutdown takes so much time?
[20:40] <valorie> matt__: good question!
[20:41] <valorie> I agree, shutdown has gotten much slower in the past couple of years
[20:47] <matt__> I wrote down some issues that keep bothering me. I filed few bugs. I don't know if I should file all of them because some of them are really obvious.
[20:49] <matt__> As I was writing this, I clicked on a note on desktop, containing list of those issues and this note disappeared...
[21:23] <anabain>  after using jackd in 16.04, which is the safest/foolproof method to get pulseaudio back to work?
[21:25] <jimarvan> hmm never tried that :/
[21:25] <anabain> killall pulseaudio does not work; I've also tried to re-configure from system settings and, although testing left and right speakers works, the "PulseAudio Sound Server" check does not produce the typical melody... Ant hints?
[21:26] <jimarvan> did you try sudo apt purge pulseaudio?
[21:26] <jimarvan> and re-install?
[21:27] <anabain> no, I think it would be excessive, as I'd like to be able to switch between jackd and pulseaudio, depending on the apps I am using...
[21:27] <anabain> but I'll try just for testing
[22:07] <mildy> hi
[22:11] <mildy> can i use these kubuntu images? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/xenial/daily-live/
[22:14] <mildy> guys?
[22:18] <mildy> no body?
[22:20] <acheronuk> mildy: I've not tested them
[22:27] <valorie> huh, why use xenial daily-live?
[22:27] <valorie> seems an odd choice
[22:52] <mparillo> I suppose the idea is to have fewer updates after installation?
[23:01] <bjrohan> Hello all. Tried upgrading from 15.04 to 16.04 with the required 15.10. In upgrading to 15.10, I had to leave my box, when I came back it was stuck at libsane, and the comp was locked up. I was able to shut it down and restart into 15.10, however the upgrade didn't finish of course. What do I need to do
[23:02] <bjrohan> in order to finish 15.10 and continue on to 16.04
[23:41] <hay207_> Hi guys, i updated my system, i got a problem , cannot install "unar" package due to unmet dependencies
[23:42] <bprompt> unar?
[23:43] <bprompt> if you're installing unrar, just do -> sudo apt-get install unrar;   :)
[23:43] <hay207_> yes
[23:43] <hay207_> i want unar not unrar
[23:44] <hay207_> for the nwn linux client
[23:44] <hay207_> it says when using apititude: libobjc4 : Depends: gcc-4.9-base (= 4.9.2-0ubuntu1~14.04) but 4.9.3-0ubuntu4 is installed.
[23:46] <hay207_> i ran sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:46] <bprompt> hay207_:   meaning, that the package requires an older version of libobjc4, so.. it may not be installable on that upgraded system
[23:47] <hay207_> So what to do?
[23:48] <bprompt> downgrade, or check for an updated version of the package if any available, or compile it  yourself for the new system
[23:48] <hay207_> Ok, thanks
[23:50] <bprompt> hay207_:    upgrading, upgrades libraries, and some packages may require an specific library version(s) to work, and thus, that's something some folks, do not take into consideration when upgrading, that's true for any OS btw
[23:50] <hay207_> ok
[23:51] <bprompt> hay207_:    I mean... a good example of that, is upgrading from windows7 to windows10, the windows7 installation, may have videocard drivers for windows7, but windows10 doesn't work with windows7 drivers, so, unless the upgrade includes videocard drivers for windows10, the new upgrade will use a fallback-generic driver, which won't be optimal
[23:53] <hay207_> And, i want a solution
[23:53] <hay207_> :)
[23:54] <bprompt> well... the package seems to be asking for the older 14.04 4.9.2 version of the library, so the newer 4.9.3 won't work for it
[23:55] <hay207_> so best try is to compile package
[23:55] <bprompt> yeap
[23:56] <hay207_> ofc , i can't downgrade gcc
[23:56] <hay207_> removes lots of packages
[23:56] <bprompt> well, unless the provider already did a newer compiled version of it
[23:57] <bprompt> hmmm
[23:58] <bprompt> hay207_:     why not just use Ark anyway?   just noticed is just some decompressor, nothing really exotic