[02:51] <Bashing-om> Well, that is it for me - yall handle it without me . Be back tomorrow :)
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: the travelmate was too old, it only took xp
[09:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:00] <daftykins> \o
[10:02] <lordievader> Hey daftykins, how are you?
[10:02] <daftykins> i'm very good thanks, just received a replacement motherboard so having fun reassembling my old core 2 quad desktop :) how're you doing today?
[10:06] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:08] <daftykins> hey hey \o
[10:10] <lordievader> daftykins: Ah, nice. I'm going to update the kernel of my vm's :)
[10:11] <daftykins> ^_^
[10:11] <daftykins> oh that's a point, digitalocean said they'd have the 3.13 -91 out today
[10:15]  * lordievader is upgrading to 4.6.3 from git.
[10:18]  * daftykins pats LTS
[10:21] <lordievader> Couple of the vms still run Trusty...
[10:23] <daftykins> can't see the point in running such recent kernels then :)
[10:29] <lordievader> It is fun to configure them ;)
[10:29] <lordievader> And it keeps the versions more in line across the devices.
[13:16] <pauljw> hi everyone
[20:38] <nacc> is it just me or is this not the first time maddawg2 has come into #ubuntu all hot and bothered only for it to be PEBKAC?
[20:40] <Ben64> came in real hot
[20:40] <nacc> heh
[20:40] <DArqueBishop> Things have changed in a Linux release? OMG!
[20:41] <Ben64> ubuntu sucks!
[20:41] <Ben64> *table flip*
[20:42] <nacc> poor table
[20:42] <Ben64> i've been seeing a lot of ubuntu sucks lately
[20:45] <nacc> a lot of articles (VPS ones) seem to have told their users to upgrade to 16.04
[20:45] <nacc> which was a bad decision, as 16.04.1 will be (based upon the amount of bugs i've closed alone :) significantly better
[20:45] <daftykins> :)
[20:45] <daftykins> plus direct upgrades are only enabled then
[20:46] <nacc> right, so they have been telling their users to use -d
[20:46] <nacc> i'm mostly worried about those users reading those articles once yakkety opens
[20:46] <nacc> may already be true
[20:48] <daftykins> yeah should be taking them to 16.10 already
[20:48] <daftykins> so much bad advice out there
[20:48] <nacc> daftykins: yeah, it's almost reaosonable at some point (if you want to test, do this), but written like static fact and then never updated (afaict)
[20:53] <Ben64> http://ben64.com/ubuntusucks.png
[20:53] <Ben64> based on #ubuntu chat logs
[20:54] <nacc> heh, it looks awesomely cyclical with LTS releases
[20:55] <nacc> as in, i'm guessing those blogs did the same thing for 12.04 -> 14.04 :)
[20:55] <Ben64> need a larger sample for sure
[20:56] <Ben64> i'd guess that peak suckiness would be around november 2007
[20:57] <nacc> progress! :)
[20:57] <Ben64> 7.10 was horrible on my system, everything was broken all the time, it's what made me go LTS only
[20:57] <nacc> yeah, i recall similar experiences (but just reinstalled most of my systems with 8.04, iirc)
[21:24] <daftykins> using server only VMs sure helps my opinion XD
[21:24] <daftykins> that and i don't believe in upgrades
[21:35] <nacc> daftykins: heh