[00:01] <slee> hello, 16.04 here, i need to convert a buttload of jp2 to jpg, but i now see that imagemagick nolonger supports jp2 and i don't see the libopenjp2 for 16.04 install, what is another good app for batch converting?
[00:01] <CountryfiedLinux> defekt, Still says added successfully but failed to connect :(
[00:01] <bprompt> lerner:   if it's only 40 pages and you can use something like pdf2svg to make it an svg image, and manipulate the text from a graphic editing app, where you can change colors  and saturation and contrast
[00:01] <tortib> I just told gnome3 classic to logout and it isn't logging out
[00:01] <tortib> any idea why this would occur?
[00:01] <DaniKitten> Is there a program for converting to MS Video 1?
[00:02] <jane_doe> K1rk, thanks!!!  That's just what I needed.
[00:02] <lerner> bprompt, can I take 40 pages at once and change contrast for all of them?
[00:05] <bprompt> lerner:   you can merge all svg or whatever format you pick, and change it for the whole graphic at once, yes, it doesn't have to be svg, you can probably convert to some other image formats like png
[00:05] <DaniKitten> Is there a program for converting to MP4 to AVI MS Video 1?
[00:09] <bprompt> DaniKitten:    you mean, mp4 to avi?
[00:10] <DaniKitten> bprompt, yes
[00:10] <DaniKitten> but not any AVI... I need MS Video 1
[00:12] <bprompt> hmmm
[00:12] <tortib> How can I change my mouse cursor for the entire system in gnome3 classic?  I used the tweak tool but it didn't update it properly
[00:13] <bprompt> DaniKitten:   dunno offhand myself
[00:13] <DaniKitten> :(
[00:16] <Compy_> Greetings. I have a 16.04 desktop installation that was installed as a legacy boot process. I added a fat16 UEFI partition and installed grub to it, and it boots fine on a certain motherboard (Gigabyte). However when I switch it to another motherboard (MSI), I get thrown into the UEFI shell. The bios settings on the second mobo look good. Would the fact that the EFI partition isn't the first partition on the disk have something to do
[00:16] <Compy_> with it?
[00:16] <Compy_> I'm wondering if different motherboards handle the EFI partition ordering differently.
[00:16] <ddd333> quick question: how many computers do you have at home? the ones that work well
[00:17] <DaniKitten> I have two
[00:17] <Compy_> ddd333, Not counting mobile devices, or TV computers, 3.
[00:17] <ddd333> ty DaniKitten  Compy_
[00:18] <DaniKitten> Compy_, I have an x86 netbook and an old PC
[00:18] <tortib> how can I change my mouse cursor system wide in gnome3 classic?  I used the tweak tool and it didn't change it for every single aspect of my system.  For example if I hover over the dock it uses one cursor if I hover over a window to resize the window it uses the same cursor as the dock does.  Regular desktop is another cursor. :/
[00:18] <Compy_> DaniKitten: Intel NUC, Macbook and a Windows 10 laptop for the wife.
[00:22] <nacc> !ot | ddd333
[00:28] <ddd333> can women be good programmers? last job i had half of them were women and they were really good and responsible. startups are mostly men though.
[00:30] <jane_doe> Haha, why wouldn't women be good programmers?
[00:31] <jane_doe> I don't think periods make you forget how to program.
[00:35] <ddd333> jane_doe: wat haha
[00:38] <brianx> maybe more men are risk takers
[00:45] <lpotter> in the last 13 years, I have worked with some extremely competent women programmers. as for risk takers, out of my two sons and one daughter, the daughter is the risk taker... just sayin
[00:46] <brianx> lpotter: more only says more, not that there are not some on each side.
[00:51] <maks> как установить wifi на linux mint
[00:52] <brianx> maks: you'll communicate with far more people here if you use english.
[00:53] <brianx> maks: you'll communicate with far more people here if you use english.
[00:54] <brianx> nevermind
[00:55] <SchrodingersScat> !ru | brianx
[00:56] <brianx> SchrodingersScat: why are you sending that to me?
[00:56] <SchrodingersScat> brianx: because you could have sent it to maks ;_;
[00:58] <ck142> Hi
[00:58] <brianx> i wouldn't send something i can't read SchrodingersScat.
[01:00] <athan> Hi everyone. How do I go about publishing an executable to the apt-get repositories for all to use?
[01:00] <athan> Or better; how should I learn to use PPAs to my advantage, both as a consumer of software and as a distributor?
[01:01] <SchrodingersScat> athan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[01:02] <athan> Thank you SchrodingersScat!
[01:03]  * athan :|
[01:17] <tamani> hey hi everybody, im new in ubuntu, just installed gimp, but i receive this message back "(gimp:30991)glib-gobject-warning g_object_set_valist has no property named 'cache-size', and it just got stucked showing the tools but not finishing charging
[01:19] <OerHeks> seems te be a known bug, tamani
[01:19] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/1576977
[01:21] <tamani> i see, at least in the page you link there-s no solution, i'll check somewhere else, thanks!
[01:25] <OerHeks> tamani, hold on
[01:25] <OerHeks> tamani, how do you start gimp ??
[01:28] <tamani> in a terminal
[01:29] <tamani> i installed it with sudo apt install gimp and after installed typed gimp enter
[01:29] <OerHeks> if from terminal, these warnings occur, and are normal, try to just use the launcher from the menu
[01:30] <Guest39586> FOR RESEARCHER JOIN ##xWindow , FOR OFFICIAL SOLARIS SUPPORT JOIN ##su.solaris ... .
[01:31] <minimec> tamani: Although I can confirm these warning messages, gimp is working ok here.
[01:32] <OerHeks> minimec, i would think so too, so that bugreport is also a result of starting from terminal perhaps
[01:33] <etzerd> hello all
[01:33] <etzerd> I need help
[01:33] <etzerd> I'm trying to install a  package and it display this error message. "python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat: Depends: python3:any (>= 3.3.2-2~) but it is a virtual package
[01:33] <etzerd>                             Depends: python3-aptdaemon (= 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu14) but 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu15 is to be installed
[01:34] <minimec> OerHeks: Well some people might have problems and start gimp from terminal for debugging reasons. So simpy their problems are real but not related to the warning messages.
[01:35] <Bashing-om> !find python3
[01:35] <OerHeks> minimec, i understand, but his Q involved not loading gimp further too.. that i cannot reconstruct here.
[01:35] <OerHeks> with "gimp & " *
[01:39] <minimec> OerHeks: I agree.
[01:41] <UbuntuDude> how to make the file operation windows stay always on top of unity ubuntu?
[01:41] <UbuntuDude> e.g. when copying files with file manager
[01:42] <Guest82332> right click window top and select always on top
[01:44] <UbuntuDude> Guest82332: so I keep doing this everytime I just do a normal file copying
[01:45] <Guest82332> sure
[01:48] <JamesLove> oh gosh, I have been away from IRC for a while!
[01:50] <loopy> JamesLove: an ancient yet still rock-solid technology :-)
[01:51] <JamesLove> yeah, would you believe I set up an IRC server in 1990?
[01:52] <loopy> JamesLove: i was born one year earlier LOL
[01:56] <porjaus> what command will remove all traces of an application? apt-get purge leaves bits and bobs in my dotfiles that have messed up reinstalls. Removing them manually works but is a hassle
[01:56] <tgm4883> porjaus: there isn't a command that will remove those
[01:57] <minimec> porjaus: 'purge' will remove 'system wide' configuration files but not the configuration files in you /home folder. You might find them in .local/share/YOURAPP .config/YOURAPP or simply .YOURAPP in your /home directory.
[01:58] <porjaus> tgm4883: so digging around and finding the detritus and manually deleting them the only option?
[01:58] <porjaus> minimec: I found them in .cache .local/apps and .gconf
[01:58] <porjaus> not sure if I missed some but removing those solved the problem
[01:58] <tgm4883> porjaus: yes, there isn't a way for dpkg to know of other files that get dropped in your home directory
[02:00] <porjaus> I had an application acting weird...and reinstalling just kept putting the troublesome settings back...turns out those left behind bits were the problem and once they were removed all was good....but I accidentally found them and had no idea such things happened
[02:00] <porjaus> I only found one other person with the same issues and no answer to their post....so sounds like it isn't a common problem?
[02:00] <PcMasterRace> Haven't had that issue yet.
[02:01] <porjaus> I seem to attract all the weird bugs that nobody has ever heard of
[02:02] <PcMasterRace> I did run across the wifi bug after a fresh install
[02:04] <drama> sudo apt-get remove --purge  is supposed to get rid of config files. If it doesn't remove a dir because is has files in it like log files or something it will tell you it didn't remove them
[02:06] <drama> JamesLove, so where have you been all this time
[02:10] <tgm4883> drama: not config files in your home directory
[02:10] <drama> tgm4883, what app
[02:10] <tgm4883> drama: any app.
[02:11] <drama> I'll remove them
[02:11] <drama> lets start rm -rf ~/.config
[02:13] <tgm4883> drama: Ok, first. Not me having the issue, it was porjaus (who already removed the files). I was merely pointing out that a --purge doesn't remove files from your home directory. Second, that command you posted is super heavy handed
[02:13] <drama> ok
[02:14] <porjaus> drama: docky was the app in question...and purge left files in .cache, .gconf and .local  there was no warning
[02:15] <porjaus> removing docky using software center also left them there....manually deleting them was the only way to get rid of them and there was no dialogue in terminal or sw center there had been bits left
[02:16] <drama> porjaus, did you re install it? I want it
[02:16] <porjaus> you want docky?
[02:16] <drama> if it works
[02:17] <porjaus> well it worked for a long time for me....then it started acting up so I intended to reinstall which led down this ugly road. I was finally able to reinstall andit worked but it now leaves an odd line across the screen about 1/3 of the way up
[02:18] <porjaus> I used it in the past on xubuntu 14.04 with no issues...and on 16.04 for a couple of months with no issues....but now it's got problems for me anyway
[02:18] <porjaus> which is a shame as I like it better than cairo dock
[02:18] <drama> i'm going to look for a ppa
[02:19] <porjaus> It's in software center
[02:19] <porjaus> Gnome software center on 16.04....not sure about the old one
[02:20] <drama> thanks
[02:20] <porjaus> plank is a simpler docky version you might like....but its very minimal...its default in Elementary if you one to have a lok
[02:21] <porjaus> "if you want to have a look"....typos
[02:21] <drama> oh no wonder it's a mono app
[02:21] <porjaus> what does that mean?
[02:21] <drama> weird programming language
[02:21] <Compy_> Greetings. I have a 16.04 desktop installation that was installed as a legacy boot process. I added a fat16 UEFI partition and installed grub to it, and it boots fine on a certain motherboard (Gigabyte). However when I switch it to another motherboard (MSI), I get thrown into the UEFI shell. The bios settings on the second mobo look good. Would the fact that the EFI partition isn't the first partition on the disk have something to do
[02:21] <Compy_> with it?
[02:22] <Compy_> I'm wondering if different motherboards handle the EFI partition ordering differently.
[02:35] <prbc> So, I have this ubuntu server running in amazon and I'm trying to make a django app accessible, for some reason even if I run it I can't access the app, and if I nmap the server there is no PORT open besides of the ssh, how can I make this app accessible?
[02:45] <jonathono> just upgraded to 16.04 and not able to get analog 5.1 working again. Tried alsamixer and changed pulse/daemon.conf to default-sample-channels = 6. What else should I check? I only get sound from left and right.
[02:55] <GreatApeNiggy> Should I switch to Debian?
[02:55] <prbc> j django
[02:58] <jesperKS> hello there
[02:59] <PcMasterRace> hey
[02:59] <jesperKS> wats up ?
[02:59] <PcMasterRace> has anyone found any new bugs as of today?
[02:59] <jesperKS> nope
[03:00] <jesperKS> just installed ubuntu MATE 16.04... running fine ;-)
[03:02] <PcMasterRace> I've been using ubuntu gnome 16.04, only problem I had was wifi, but was a easy fix
[03:03] <sm00th> hello all, ubuntu doesn't have nvidia driver 367 in the repos?
[03:04] <jesperKS> gnome 16.04 is also a very nice distro ;-) yes wifi is easy to fix
[03:04] <PcMasterRace> running smooth now!
[03:05] <jesperKS> Nice to hear mate ;-)
[03:05] <PcMasterRace> how long have you been running this version? @jesperKS
[03:07] <jesperKS> About one day :- hehe... i used to use Linux Lite
[03:07] <paranoidabhi> hi
[03:07] <paranoidabhi> Any ideas on http://askubuntu.com/questions/795169/kde-slow-boot-on-kubuntu-16-04?
[03:08] <jonathono> upgrade disabled my codecs. Re-installed libdvd-pkg and ran sudo dpkg-recounfigure libdvd-pkg. Can hear all channels now.
[03:09] <jesperKS> KDE PLASMA can be slow on some slower pces
[03:09] <PcMasterRace> Just switched back from Windows 10. Couldn't take it anymore
[03:09] <sm00th> oh i rebooted did osmeone message me?
[03:09] <reisio> slow proc and on dedicated gpu, yeah, accelerated WMs can be problematic
[03:09] <paranoidabhi> jesperKS, I just bought my pc, the specs seem to be good. But it is very slow.
[03:10] <jesperKS> Windows 10 SUCKS
[03:10] <reisio> jesperKS: that's rather my impression... also of most preceding Windows versions, though admittedly to a lesser extent (save vista :p)
[03:10] <PcMasterRace> Sure Does!!!
[03:10] <sm00th> i switched from debian to windows 10 and ubuntu lol
[03:10] <reisio> windows me was the best; unhackable because it wouldn't stay working long enough to be hacked
[03:10] <sm00th> windows 10 makes so much internet connections its insane
[03:10] <sm00th> I think windows 7 was their last good one.
[03:10] <PcMasterRace> I agree
[03:10] <reisio> 7 was quite less awful by comparison
[03:11] <sm00th> no 7 has great firewall
[03:11] <reisio> and as a person who has Windows-using friends, I don't look forward to the inevitable subscription based problems Windows >=10 users will suffer
[03:11] <tatertots_> i never personally had any problems with any version of windows
[03:11] <sm00th> even in windows 10 you can still block all of its stuff,  for example i only allow svchost for dns unless checking for updates.
[03:11] <tatertots_> but thats just me
[03:11] <jesperKS> windows 7 was okay... but still not LINUX :-D
[03:11] <tatertots_> i still have vista and it works fine...don't see what all the fuss was about from end users
[03:12] <sm00th> jesperKS: with linux you have more insight to whats going on under the hood.
[03:12] <PcMasterRace> I only use Windows for gaming.
[03:12] <jesperKS> Okay maby you should try another distro ?
[03:12] <sm00th> and even ubuntu don't constantly try to connect every aspect to the internet lol
[03:12] <PcMasterRace> Windows 7 that is
[03:12] <tatertots_> some computer issues, as much as we don't like to admit are "human error" or user error
[03:12] <sm00th> in windows 10 even explorer.exe constanlty try to connect to innternet.  to tell MS everything you search on your pc lol
[03:12] <sm00th> you can uninstall alot of stuff with powershell,  but still can't get rid of cortana.
[03:13] <jesperKS> I run STEAM on my linux.. playing CS:GO is fine
[03:13] <PcMasterRace> Skynet in the making
[03:13] <sm00th> jesperKS: ya thats what I installed ubuntu for just now lol
[03:13] <sm00th> PcMasterRace: ya it really is lol
[03:13] <sm00th> windows firewall is still not corrupt as far as I can see, b ut in windows 10 it try to put stuff back in the firewall
[03:13] <jesperKS> "sm00th yes thats right
[03:13] <sm00th> and install some apps back that you remove hahah
[03:13] <PcMasterRace> Siri isn't to far behind... lol
[03:13] <sm00th> its crazy.
[03:13] <sponix> Amount of Linux Compatible Titles on Steam is growing as we speak..
[03:14] <jesperKS> @sm00th
[03:14] <tatertots_> but it's not realistic to expect end users to actually "manage" their computers...some harry potter magician at microsoft is supposed to manage peoples computers for them magically
[03:14] <PcMasterRace> I have steam on my debian box
[03:15] <sarbojit> hi guys I have a problem, I'm using a i7 6th gen hp laptop and I find that wifi stops working after being idle for sometime. Whereas it gives no issue on the windows 10 which came preinstalled. Any one faced the same issue?
[03:15] <jesperKS> @sponix yes thats true... i am not in a rush.. right now i have alle the games that i need on Linux
[03:15] <PcMasterRace> Did you run a update?
[03:15] <sponix> jesperKS: My Boys are just happy to have Terraria
[03:16] <sarbojit> oh and by the way, the ubuntu version is 16.04
[03:16] <sponix> jesperKS: And I have one playing Shadow of Mordor
[03:17] <PcMasterRace> Sarbojit: run sudo apt-get update then restart pc should work
[03:17] <sponix> If you aren't on 14.04.x or 16.04.x you are just Wrong  :)
[03:17] <PcMasterRace> :P
[03:17] <sarbojit> PcMasterRace, I have done that yet I find that the system is unable to bring the card out of sleep once it is idle.
[03:18] <sarbojit> So, that could be one of the possibilities of it to refuse to connect
[03:18] <paranoidabhi> hi guys!
[03:18] <sarbojit> For this reason I would like to talk to ubuntu's kernel team, is there anyone here or in a different channel ?
[03:18] <paranoidabhi> Reasking question, http://askubuntu.com/questions/795169/kde-slow-boot-on-kubuntu-16-04? Any ideas?
[03:18] <jesperKS> @sponix yes i am also not so demanding enymore (i am 40) in my youth i played alot nore
[03:18] <PcMasterRace> try going into your bios and booting network 1st
[03:19] <jesperKS> @sarbojit try this ... http://superuser.com/questions/911635/wifi-authentication-times-out
[03:19] <sarbojit> let me check, jesperKS
[03:20] <sarbojit> yes, I have seen this solution but as you can see this is iwlwifi which is intel card. Unfortunately, the wifi card I have is from RealTek. So, this solution won't work on my system.
[03:21] <sm00th> sarbojit: what model card do you have? you can find it with lspci
[03:21] <sarbojit> 03:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[03:22] <sarbojit> I am currently on Wifi though I do not know if I will be able to reconnect after I keep PC idle for ~10 minutes or so (no browsing activity)
[03:22] <PcMasterRace> try this sarbojit:http://askubuntu.com/questions/760075/cant-view-wifi-networks-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-16-04
[03:23] <PcMasterRace> I have realtek also this worked for me
[03:23] <sm00th> sarbojit: have you tried any of these solutions? https://askubuntu.com/questions/590414/wifi-problems-with-rtl8723be-in-ubuntu-14-04
[03:23] <paranoidabhi> any ideas guys? Does the issue relate to kde or ubuntu?
[03:23] <jesperKS> or this http://askubuntu.com/questions/590414/wifi-problems-with-rtl8723be-in-ubuntu-14-04
[03:24] <sarbojit> jesperKS, this is a solution to recompile the driver and replace it with stock kernel driver - will try this
 no... not a clue mate
[03:24] <paranoidabhi> sarbojit, I had such issue. Check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/772180/wifi-not-working-on-realtek-rtl8723be-wifi-adapter
[03:25] <sm00th> sarbojit: another solution there is turn off some power manager settings for the card.
[03:25] <sarbojit> paranoidabhi, I will check this solution...
[03:26] <sm00th> paranoidabhi: when you boot up what does it get stuck on.  you can remove the quiet option from /etc/default/grub and see
[03:26] <sarbojit> sm00th, that could be a potential try out just to make sure that power management is the issue but I am not a wifi driver person so I do not know the internal details of the driver.
[03:27] <sm00th> try it and see all you can do.
[03:27] <sarbojit> that's why I wanted to have a talk with ubuntu kernel team if they could pin-point the wifi driver code, or may be a patch, I could do that.
[03:27] <sm00th> seems its been an issue for a while.  you can see if bug about it on launchpad and add a comment I guess.
[03:28] <sarbojit> yes, for me alone to understand the driver code and make trial and error will take a lot of time
[03:28] <subsume> i have a bug where i can't restart or even stop mysql
[03:28] <sm00th> or post on forums.  think you will find mostly community users here.
[03:29] <subsume> on a fresh 16.04 install
[03:38] <paranoidabhi> sm00th, does this provide any information http://paste.ubuntu.com/18601516/?
[03:58] <paranoidabhi> how can I undo/unmask this sudo systemctl mask systemd-udev-settle.service?
[04:02] <paranoidabhi>  any ideas on this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/795169/kde-slow-boot-on-kubuntu-16-04?
[04:03] <Xin> paranoidabhi; it's impossible
[04:03] <Xin> you are doomed
[04:03] <Xin> sorry
[04:04] <paranoidabhi> Xin, that doesn't sound good
[04:12] <dax> paranoidabhi: systemctl unmask, systemctl enable, systemctl start, depending on how much you want to undo
[04:14] <MrCupp> 1/win 11
[04:26] <sudishth> how to reinstall Ubuntu default theme in ubuntu 16.04
[04:30] <evil_dan2wik> How often is a good length of time to check for updates on a server?
[04:31] <tatertots_> depends...i wouldn't think there is a one size fits all answer to how often to check for updates, depends on the policies and procedures of the organization/business
[04:31] <tatertots_> and that would vary greatly by organization/business/industry
[04:32] <evil_dan2wik> I am an individual running a few non critical services. I was thinking something like bi weekly
[04:33] <tatertots_> if you are not governed by corporate policies and procedures.....why not?...bi weekly sounds good
[04:33] <evil_dan2wik> Ok, thanks.
[04:34] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[04:34] <tatertots_> howdy
[04:35] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm trying to connect my bluetooth headphones.
[04:35] <CountryfiedLinux> "Device added successfully, but failed to connect". Any suggestions?
[04:37] <tatertots_> have you read the documentation for your headphones to identify the default PIN...u might be thinking...i've never needed a PIN before...do you know the default PIN for the head phones?....could be 5x 0's or 12345 or something...what all have you tried?
[04:39] <CountryfiedLinux> tatertots_, didn't need one for my phone
[04:39] <tatertots_> give me the model# of your headphones
[04:40] <CountryfiedLinux> tatertots_, they're qcy
[04:41] <CountryfiedLinux> Connection Failed: blueman.bluez.errors.DBusFailedError: Protocol not available
[04:42] <CountryfiedLinux> Maybe blueman is the problem. Are there alternatives to blueman?
[04:43] <tatertots_> here's the "qcy" headphone manual  https://system.netsuite.com/core/media/media.nl?id=33821&c=689990&h=eb17d70a921abcd741b3&_xt=.pdf
[04:44] <tatertots_> it says if your phone supports "simple pairing" you won't need a PIN...that suggests that all phones do not support simple pairing
[04:44] <tatertots_> this explains why u never needed a pin for your phone
[04:44] <tatertots_> the PIN is 0000
[04:45] <tatertots_> remove the headphone's...pair again and supply the PIN 0000
[04:45] <tatertots_> report the results
[04:49] <tatertots_> every bluetooth device has a default PIN...weather you need it or not with the device you intend to use it with...they ALL have a default factory PIN
[04:50] <CountryfiedLinux> tatertots_, Where do I put the pin in in blueman?
[04:50] <CountryfiedLinux> tatertots_, I'm looking for that option.
[04:52] <CountryfiedLinux> tatertots_, which option of the 4? headset?
[04:53] <tatertots_> this has pictures of blueman using a PIN with headphones...http://askubuntu.com/questions/259354/how-do-i-connect-to-my-bluetooth-headset
[04:53] <tatertots_> scroll down until you get to the blueman screen shots
[04:53] <tatertots_> it shows step by step
[04:54] <CountryfiedLinux> tatertots_, It looks different on Xubuntu.
[04:56] <tatertots_> when you are at the "create pair" stage it should allow you to use or provide a PIN
[04:58] <CountryfiedLinux> I'll check again
[05:01] <CountryfiedLinux> tatertots, I don't see the pin option when trying to pair.
[05:03] <evil_dan2wik> Has the blue tooth received worked with the headphones before?
[05:03] <evil_dan2wik> I've had a receiver that was too old to be used with newer headphones
[05:05] <gshmu> http://img.vim-cn.com/5d/e05a56cf15087aba004b2689bfa935fbdd93b1.png
[05:06] <gshmu> display error
[05:09] <tatertots_> what is the output of "sdptool browse local"
[05:09] <tatertots_> pastbin it here
[05:11] <hyperized> okay .. always fun receiving a tomcat7 update which fails on all 14.04 servers and kills all the servers
[05:24] <paranoidabhi> hi guys!
[05:24] <paranoidabhi> any ideas on this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/795169/kde-slow-boot-on-kubuntu-16-04
[05:24] <danny_> Hello, I'm here for a sanity check
[05:25] <danny_> PPA's are generally safe if they are from reputable sites like gnome-look, right?
[05:26] <danny_> I'm wanting to get the Elegant Gnome Pack theme for mate
[05:28] <noobface> ok, i have sucessfully installed ubuntu, and went to turn wifi on. it says when i drop down the wifi selection menu "wifi networds device not ready" and so i google it and it came up with a new option to do on the command line but they didn't work for me. I beleive its becasue of the last variable shown. The one im refering to is: modprobe -rfv iw3945. The promp comes back with iw3945 is not found. What is the value supposed to
[05:28] <noobface> represent and how do i find it on my desktop
[05:30] <Arigat0> Good Evening
[05:30] <Arigat0> <3 to Ubuntu
[05:30] <Arigat0> -help
[05:33] <hateball> !help | Arigat0
[05:34] <tatertots_> noobface...show the output of 'lspci -vnn' please
[05:35] <noobface> this will just take a sec..
[05:36] <tatertots_> a sec....come on man..that's too long...just kidding..no worries
[05:37] <noobface> two seperate servers man.. output coming
[05:37] <noobface> bobseviltwin@Dontfuckwithbob:~$ lspci -vnn
[05:37] <noobface> 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1566]
[05:37] <noobface> 	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:3639]
[05:37] <noobface> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
[05:37] <noobface> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon R4/R5 Graphics] [1002:9851] (rev 40) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[05:37] <noobface> 	Subsystem: Lenovo Mullins [Radeon R4/R5 Graphics] [17aa:3639]
[05:38] <noobface> 00:02.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 16h Processor Functions 5:1 [1022:1439] (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
[05:38] <noobface> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 26
[05:38] <noobface> 	Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0
[05:38] <noobface> 	I/O behind bridge: 0000e000-0000efff
[05:38] <noobface> 	Memory behind bridge: fe900000-fe9fffff
[05:38] <noobface> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[05:38] <noobface> 	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
[05:38] <hateball> !paste| You'd think people would have learned by now
[05:38] <Arigat0> Good Evening
[05:39] <ponyrider> !sprunge
[05:39] <noobface> 	Subsystem: Lenovo FCH USB XHCI Controller [17aa:3639]
[05:39] <noobface> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
[05:39] <noobface> 	Memory at fea68000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
[05:39] <noobface> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[05:39] <noobface> 	Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
[05:39] <noobface> 00:11.0 SATA controller [0106]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [1022:7801] (rev 40) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
[05:39] <ponyrider> spam
[05:41] <danny_> So how safe are PPA's?
[05:41] <tatertots_> anybody can have a ppa
[05:41] <deceit> if they're on the ubuntu wiki, safe enough
[05:41] <tatertots_> do you trust the content provider?
[05:41] <deceit> still considered unstable, and not officially supported
[05:41] <tatertots_> if yes ...safe enough
[05:41] <danny_> It is a gtk 2 theme from gnome-look
[05:43] <danny_> tatertots_ I don't have a clue who the content provider is but the package is pretty highly reiviewed on the site
[05:44] <Arigat0> Is anyone here running Ubuntu in command line mode?
[05:44] <Arigat0> I have it set up on this old netbook and I freaking love it
[05:45] <tatertots_> we all have access to that mode Arigat0...and we all probably love it...even if it's just a little bit
[05:45] <ponyrider> no x11?
[05:45] <Arigat0> correct pony
[05:45] <Arigat0> just straight up terminal mode no gui
[05:45] <ponyrider> Arigat0: my god... why why why
[05:45] <danny_> but... Why?
[05:45] <tatertots_> because it makes him feel very nerd like
[05:45] <Arigat0> well mainly because this old netbook gets laggy with the gui
[05:46] <danny_> How do you watch porn?
[05:46] <hateball> !ot
[05:46] <tatertots_> LMAO
[05:46] <Arigat0> secondly it allows me to learn terminal mode better
[05:46] <ponyrider> w3m == best browser eveeeeer!
[05:46] <Arigat0> hahah links2 ftw
[05:46] <tahder> .. im back .. wtf
[05:47] <tatertots_> we have to keep the conversation technical break/fix so the police don't get us guys
[05:47] <Arigat0> welcome back tahder
[05:47] <tahder> do you still want my pastbin or is it going to ban me again
[05:47] <tahder> thanks :(
[05:47] <tatertots_> yes show the pastbin
[05:47] <tatertots_> the link to the pastbin
[05:47] <tahder> http://pastebin.com/9TMib99b
[05:49] <tatertots_> you have a Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[05:50] <tahder> what does that mean then
[05:50] <tatertots_> means that's not a iw3945
[05:50] <danny_> Where are we supposed to go for chit-chat?  I kinda like this, its just twitch chat without a streamer
[05:51] <tahder> oh i see.. well then the internet isn't being very helpful. Any idea on how to set up wifi for a device not set up state?
[05:51] <tatertots_> you were running this command earlier modprobe -rfv iw3945. The promp comes back with iw3945 is not found
[05:51] <Arigat0> acpi -VV <--- my favorite command atm
[05:51] <tatertots_> that's why is was not found because you don't have a iw3945 WLAN adapter in your computer
[05:52] <tatertots_> i don't know what forum post you found that made you type such a command
[05:52] <tatertots_> but it does NOT apply to you
[05:52] <danny_> How do I use a gtk 2 theme in mate?
[05:53] <danny_> I downloaded one through syapti packag manager
[05:53] <tahder> oh, and acpi it says isn't installed and i can't install without internet
[05:54] <tahder> wait would i replace my specific adapter with iw3945
[05:54] <hateball> tahder: is it this issue you're having? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1526683
[05:54] <tatertots_> thanks ubottu
[05:55] <tatertots_> that thing comes in handy
[05:56] <tatertots_> hold on tahder...i'm having to scroll up far to read your original writings
[05:56] <tahder> wifi doesn't loose connection ocassionally it doesn't have one to begin with. Although i had connect before i install and i did have install problems
[05:56] <danny_> Figured it out
[05:57] <tatertots_> danny you got your shinny new theme?
[05:57] <tatertots_> oh he left
[06:01] <tatertots_> ok you there tahder?
[06:02] <tahder> yeah
[06:02] <tatertots_> sweet
[06:02] <tatertots_> will you pastbin some info for me?
[06:02] <tahder> sure what do you need
[06:02] <tatertots_> modinfo rtl8821ae
[06:03] <tahder> oke please hold while i computer
[06:05] <danny_> Ok boys, how the hell do I get rid of the nvidia tray icon?
[06:05] <tatertots_> clear the checkbox next to "show tray icon"
[06:06] <danny_> tatertots_ I'm dumb, where would I find that?
[06:06] <tatertots_> danny did you get your fancy theme you wanted?
[06:07] <danny_> tatertots_ I got a different one, but its already a million times better than what I had before, where I couldn't even see the text in this prompt box
[06:10] <tatertots_> tahder you still working on getting that info?...
[06:11] <tahder> yeah im having problems ... i might have to leave and be back on a different server but stand by while i try to fixes
[06:11] <tatertots_> ok i'm going to warm up my coffee...i'll be here
[06:11] <tahder> yup okay dont go anywhere ill be back
[06:12] <danny_> What is the difference between the Onboard settings, Personal Settings, and qt settings?
[06:12] <danny_> They all let me change theme and font independently it seems
[06:15] <tatertots_> i don't know danny, i had a ubuntu feisty fawn 7.04 system i did some fancy stuff too long ago but haven't messed with any GUI stuff since then
[06:19] <tahder> okay im back, link in a sec
[06:19] <tatertots_> welcome back tahder
[06:19] <tahder> thanks :3
[06:19] <tahder> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18607583/
[06:19] <tatertots_> all these seconds add up....just kidding...no worries
[06:20] <tahder> yes you would have thought you went to fb with all the time you've wasted
[06:21] <tatertots_> wrong pastbin tahder
[06:21] <tahder> danm
[06:21] <tatertots_> that was the pastebin where we figured out you didn't have a iw4936 or whatever wlan adapter
[06:22] <tahder> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18607678/
[06:22] <tahder> there try that on for size
[06:22] <tahder> ha yeah i had them both open :3
[06:23] <tatertots_> yeah that's what i wanted to see
[06:24] <tahder> yay
[06:28] <tatertots_> what version of ubuntu is this tahder?
[06:29] <tahder> 16.04
[06:33] <tatertots_> tahder i have some questions for ya
[06:33] <tahder> yeah whats up
[06:34] <tatertots_> i'm seeing reports of performance/disconnection issues from other users of that wlan adapter using various versions of ubuntu, it's my understanding that in your circumstance it's not functional at all?....you cannot see the ssid's around you?
[06:35] <tatertots_> is this correct?
[06:35] <tahder> yes it is
[06:35] <ursus> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu Mata 16.04 on my Lenovo B590 laptop which has a GF117M Nvidia gpu with optimus technology. The proprietary nvidia-340 driver was available just with a click, I enabled it from the GUI. I also installed bumblebee from apt, and edited the xorg.conf.nvidia file by adding the BUS id to it. Rebooted, but I still get an error message when I try to run a program with optirun: Cannot access secondary GPU. How could
[06:35] <ursus> I get bumblebee work? Any help is appreciated!
[06:36] <tatertots_> have you restarted network manager? if not let's try that...other users have out of the box functionality but only later discover performance/disconnect issues
[06:37] <tahder> me?
[06:37] <tatertots_> you're a little different because yours isn't functioning at all..this gave me pause....yes you tahder
[06:38] <Seveas> tahder: how are you trying to see ssid's? With the networkmanager gui or on the commandline?
[06:38] <hateball> ursus: What chipset do you have?
[06:39] <Seveas> hateball: he said GF117M :)
[06:39] <hateball> ursus: If you have a more recent one, the nvidia-361 and nvidia-prime is likely what you want instead of bumblebee
[06:39] <tahder> networkmanager gui
[06:39] <hateball> Seveas: ah yes
[06:39] <tahder> how do you see them on the command line
[06:40] <ursus> hateball, 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M/810M/820M / GT 620M/625M/630M/720M] (rev a1)
[06:40] <tahder> WAIT!
[06:40] <Seveas> tahder: sudo iwlist scan
[06:40] <tahder> networks available.. connecting
[06:40] <tatertots_> good deal
[06:40] <tahder> thanks seveas
[06:41] <tahder> connected :3
[06:41] <tatertots_> sounds like you too will have out of the box functionality and only later discover performance/disconnection issues
[06:41] <tahder> testing ..
[06:41] <Seveas> tahder: it was probably restarting networkmanager that did it
[06:41] <tahder> yeah i think so
[06:41] <tatertots_> but that's better than no functionality at all right
[06:41] <Seveas> I have this regularly as well, where n-m won't see anything. Either restarting n-m or doing sudo iwlist scan will kick it into gear.
[06:42] <tahder> problem loading :<
[06:42] <tahder> let me try command line
[06:42] <F-U-C-K> alskjdlksajdka
[06:42] <F-U-C-K> ._.
[06:42] <K1rk> Seveas,
[06:43] <K1rk> what chipset?
[06:43] <ERCWXEWQSX> hello!**
[06:43] <K1rk> Seveas, personally seen that issue a lot with Broadcom cards
[06:43] <Seveas> K1rk: intel something, but the problem isn't the chip, it's n-m
[06:43] <ERCWXEWQSX> no entiendo ni puta mierda ._.
[06:43] <Seveas> it doesn't scan often enough and I move around a lot
[06:43] <F-U-C-K> xD
[06:43] <tahder> it prints back a bunch of stuffs then interface doesn't support scanning
[06:44] <ERCWXEWQSX> tu abuela!
[06:44] <tatertots_> F word are you having a ubuntu problem?....i can't say your screen name because i'm not allowed to use profanity
[06:44] <Seveas> tahder: can you pastebin the entire output?
[06:45] <F-U-C-K> hello, bitch
[06:45] <ERCWXEWQSX> ,_.
[06:46] <tahder> ill give you the important parts hows that . one sec
[06:46] <F-U-C-K> [Bicht] Eso parece "Bicho" xD
[06:46] <Bicht> jajajjajjaja
[06:46] <Bicht> callate
[06:46] <Bicht> jajajajaj
[06:46] <Bicho> awwww
[06:47] <danny_> New question, Is there a reason not to update stuff on Ubuntu?
[06:47] <mihael_k33hl> I've installed an application, and it's on /usr/local/bin, How do I like trace and remove everything that comes along with it?
[06:47] <danny_> Am I putting myself at risk by updating whatever Software Updater coughs up?
[06:47] <F-U-C-K> danny_ close your pussy
[06:47] <hateball> mihael_k33hl: did you install it using ubuntus repositories?
[06:47] <tatertots_> there is not one size fit all answer to that danny...i personally run software that requires me to use certain ubuntu version to retain support
[06:48] <tatertots_> you may not have software like that in your environment
[06:48] <hateball> mihael_k33hl: and what is the application?
[06:48] <tatertots_> but if you do..you'll find out.................the hard way
[06:48] <mihael_k33hl> hateball: I don't remember though, but I guess I installed it from source. It's GNS3, and I think I've also deleted the source file/directory for that one
[06:48] <danny_> I guess I'll keep updating everything until I regret it
[06:49] <hateball> mihael_k33hl: Well if you've installed from source, you'll need to read that programs documentation
[06:49] <F-U-C-K> -._.-
[06:50] <hyperized> guys, how do I get someone to look at a production breaking bug that has been untouched for 3 months and now ended up in LTS?
[06:50] <danny_> hyperized yell
[06:51] <hyperized> here?
[06:51] <tatertots_> so danny for me...newer isn't always better ...if you know what i mean
[06:51] <F-U-C-K> ja
[06:51] <danny_> hyperized, snide comments on social media
[06:51] <hateball> mihael_k33hl: depending on the application, download the source again and hope it lets you make uninstall
[06:51] <F-U-C-K> -----------__
[06:51] <F-U-C-K> ---------_U o\--o
[06:51] <F-U-C-K> --------/----___/
[06:51] <F-U-C-K> -------/----/
[06:51] <F-U-C-K> ------/----/\\ __
[06:51] <F-U-C-K> ---\_/----/-\\-U o\___
[06:51] <hyperized> HN :D
[06:52] <tatertots_> I still have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a production box due to software
[06:52] <danny_> tatertots_ I feel like I'd forget to update and then never update
[06:52] <tatertots_> if i go any higher that 12.04....things break
[06:52] <tatertots_> and i dont like when things break
[06:53] <danny_> tatertots_ Luckily, I don't have any custom written software I need to work right now
[06:54] <danny_> Gotta say, Linux is clicking with me more than I thought it would
[06:55] <F-U-C-K> .___:
[06:56] <tahder> ermehgerd finally ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/18608861/
[06:57] <mihael_k33hl> GNS3 seems to have been updated for quite a while and the directory structure has been reorganized into multiple ones, just deleted the binary files in /usr/local/bin. Any suggestion how I can track source installed packages from here onwards?
[06:57] <mihael_k33hl> Oh I'll just use checkinstall
[06:58] <hateball> mihael_k33hl: they appear to have a !ppa
[06:58] <mihael_k33hl> hateball: for the new one
[06:59] <mihael_k33hl> hateball: for the latest version
[06:59] <hateball> mihael_k33hl: It's been built recently, so I'd assume so. https://launchpad.net/~gns3/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[07:06] <tahder> tatertots_ are you still with meh?
[07:06] <tatertots_> i'm here
[07:07] <tahder> ok good did you get my link
[07:07] <tatertots_> if you just posted a link i might have missed it, last i knew after restarting network manager you were able to see ssid's around you
[07:08] <tahder> oh ok here is new http://paste.ubuntu.com/18608861/
[07:08] <tatertots_> that was info that was requested of you by another helper....were you not able to connect to your ssid of choice?
[07:09] <tahder> info requested by you and yes but then while testing internet didnt connect
[07:10] <tahder> oh wait no not requested by you, by Seveas
[07:10] <tahder> are you still with me Seveas?
[07:11] <tatertots_> were you able to associate with a access point?...which is just a fancy way of asking did you attach to a ssid yes/no? please answer in yes/no form
[07:12] <tahder> yes
[07:12] <tahder> but abilities impaired
[07:12] <wyseguy> anyone to help with this issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/760412/cant-change-multi-monitor-display-positions-in-ubuntu-16-04
[07:14] <tatertots_> ok tahder
[07:14] <tatertots_> let's do this
[07:14] <tahder> :D do what
[07:14] <tatertots_> run ifconfig and find your wlan adapter usually wlan0 or something like that and tell me if you have a ip address
[07:15] <tatertots_> in yes/no form please
[07:17] <tatertots_> did you get a ip addy/address tahder?
[07:18] <tahder> un momento
[07:19] <hyperized> oh nice, the tomcat breaking version got pushed via security updates
[07:20] <tatertots_> i'm assuming that means "give me a second" tahder.....you and these seconds
[07:20] <tatertots_> lol
[07:21] <tahder> okay so im looking at the output and it gives me 3 blocks and wlp4s0 contains what my ip address is on the connection information in IPv4
[07:21] <tahder> also IPv6
[07:21] <tahder> sorry english only got it
[07:22] <tahder> also a note -- the interface says "blah.blah WIFI(wlp4s0)
[07:22] <tahder> ive never seen the part in () before
[07:22] <tatertots_> ok tahder
[07:22] <tahder> *obviously blah.blah has numbers
[07:22] <tatertots_> this is what we need from that info
[07:23] <tahder> then to your original question dod you have an ip the answer is no
[07:24] <tahder> the interface number is not contained within the command response
[07:25] <tatertots_> run ifconfig wlp4s0 and we need your ip/netmask for internet trouble shooting...your IPv4 ip/netmask specifically....if you want you can either pastebin the info or if you can pick out the info and hold it in your head to follow the next steps
[07:25] <tahder> pick out which info .. im sorry i hope you understand why i cant give you my ip
[07:26] <tatertots_> yes i understand
[07:26] <tahder> good, now doing ifconfig
[07:26] <tahder> done
[07:26] <tatertots_> i hope you understand that your wlan adapter is working now and if you still have issues it's most likely human error
[07:27] <tahder> then what would i do reset but i already did that
[07:27] <tahder> and this is a fresh install.. like i went to connect to the internet right out of the gate
[07:28] <tahder> what do i do after ifconfig wlp4s0
[07:30] <tatertots_> now that you know your ip address and netmask you now need to determine your default gateway
[07:30] <tatertots_> netstat -nr
[07:30] <tahder> okay
[07:31] <tahder> done
[07:32] <tahder> by the way i tried to connect through hotspot and it connected
[07:34] <pletin12> hi
[07:34] <pletin12> Lately when I turn on my computer there is always a screen that says "failed to start X server" and I end up in a terminal. Usually I fix temporarily this problem by typing sudo mdm stop and then reboot but that's not a permanent solution. Is there anything I can do to fix this for good?
[07:35] <reisio> pletin12: what version of Ubuntu?
[07:35] <pletin12> 16.04
[07:38] <pletin12> maybe graphics card driver problem?
[07:39] <tahder> all good im back
[07:40] <tatertots_> welcome back tahder
[07:40] <tahder> thanks tatertots_
[07:40] <tahder> what were we talking about before i was so rudely interupted
[07:43] <tatertots_> tahder you couldn't get your wireless to detect ssid's ...that's been addressed/fixed...you're all good now
[07:44] <tatertots_> got any other questions or problems please tell us on one line please
[07:44] <tahder> can detect ssid's but now internet doens't connect still, hotspot does but that isn't a long term solution
[07:45] <vbotka> pletin12, you might want to get more details and go through /var/log/Xorg.0.log looking for (EE)
[07:45] <tahder> waittt,, it works
[07:45] <tatertots_> you may need to consult with the owner/network administrator of the wifi
[07:46] <tahder> hold on let me see if i can..
[07:46] <tatertots_> to determine if you have the right to connect to it
[07:47] <tatertots_> i can't help you do anything unethical in regard to getting wireless internet
[07:47] <tahder> yes i do  and for that matter im connected on this computer that im talking to you on
[07:47] <tahder> google loads not much else
[07:47] <pletin12> (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[07:47] <pletin12> maybe this?
[07:48] <tahder> hey who said anything about unethical im just a random person trying to connect to my boobtube. perfectly legitament :3
[07:49] <tahder> not connected now hmm
[07:50] <tatertots_> tahder can you ping your default gateway?
[07:50] <tatertots_> yes/no
[07:50] <yzx> hello ,I have a question about glib
[07:51] <vbotka> pletin12, I guess there will be more than this one (EE) http://askubuntu.com/questions/557430/xserver-doesnt-want-to-start
[07:51] <yzx> when I use g_drive_can_eject in arm64 ,get TRUE,but the drive is in local
[07:52] <tahder> how do i do that
[07:54] <tahder> sudo route -n says the internets and it comes up with a slighly altere result of before of netstat -nr
[07:54] <tatertots_> there is a ip address there inside of netstat -nr that is your default gateway ip address
[07:55] <tatertots_> since you want to be secretive about ip addys we'll call it ......xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[07:55] <tahder> there is one listing with gateway but other info listed for it is 0000 except metric
[07:55] <tatertots_> run the command 'ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx'
[07:56] <tahder> 56(84) bytes of data
[07:56] <tahder> it replies
[07:56] <tatertots_> you will either get network packets returned, which is a successful ping or you will get "host unreachable" which is a unsuccessful ping
[07:56] <tatertots_> you can ping it
[07:56] <tatertots_> this is good
[07:57] <tatertots_> this means your computer is talking to the wireless router just fine
[07:57] <tatertots_> no problem there
[07:57] <tahder> okay so why no internets
[07:57] <tahder> it could just be google .. they do like me anymore
[07:57] <tahder> let me try different engine
[07:58] <tatertots_> ping google.com
[07:58] <tahder> on the command line?
[07:59] <tatertots_> were you able to ping google dot com on command line?
[07:59] <tatertots_> yes on command line
[07:59] <tatertots_> 'ping google.com'
[07:59] <tatertots_> were you able to ping google.com yes/no?
[07:59] <backbox> HI BROS
[07:59] <backbox> no
[08:00] <tahder> its thinking
[08:00] <backbox> bye
[08:00] <ZFS1> Hi BIOS
[08:00] <backbox> hi
[08:00] <backbox> i'm backbox
[08:00] <ZFS1> we know
[08:00] <backbox> box lack box
[08:00] <backbox> black box
[08:01] <tahder> unknown host
[08:01] <tatertots_> tahder can you reboot the router?....i'm guessing you may not be able to but answer non the less
[08:02] <tahder> not possible
[08:02] <brushdemon> can you do `ping 8.8.8.8`?
[08:02] <tahder> wiki doesn't even load
[08:03] <tatertots_> tahder you may not have authorization to use this wifi
[08:03] <tahder> yes
[08:03] <brushdemon> alright, so it's a DNS issue
[08:03] <tatertots_> or there might be a device limit
[08:03] <tahder> i do have i didn't hack someones wifi
[08:03] <tatertots_> maybe you can only have 1 seat on the network and you're already using your 1 seat
[08:03] <tahder> .. the apt that i live in provides wifi for the building
[08:03] <tahder> no because i connect with windows
[08:03] <brushdemon> change your /etc/resolv.conf to googles DNS or something
[08:04] <tahder> before installed ubuntu and id use this comp
[08:04] <brushdemon> just put something like 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' into /etc/resolv.conf
[08:05] <brushdemon> let me know if that works
[08:06] <tahder> do you have a command for that
[08:07] <brushdemon> since you need to copy+paste stuff
[08:08] <brushdemon> printf "nameserver 8.8.8.8\nnameserver 8.8.4.4\n" > /etc/resolv.conf
[08:09] <tahder> permission denied
[08:09] <brushdemon> you could use a text editor on that file too such as nano
[08:09] <brushdemon> try it with sudo
[08:09] <brushdemon> sudo -s bash -c 'printf "nameserver 8.8.8.8\nnameserver 8.8.4.4\n" > /etc/resolv.conf'
[08:10] <tahder> and put the print.... in a text editor?
[08:10] <brushdemon> no, copy + paste that line
[08:10] <tahder> can't different servers
[08:11] <tahder> **computers
[08:11] <brushdemon> well type it in?
[08:11] <Apachez> how come ubuntu performs daily downloads of updates when I explicitly told it to "Never" check or download updates?
[08:13] <tahder> nothing returns
[08:13] <tahder> is it a success?
[08:13] <brushdemon> try pinging google.com again
[08:13] <tahder> thinking ..
[08:14] <tahder> unknown host
[08:15] <tahder> was i supposed to replace nameserver with google?
[08:15] <brushdemon> no
[08:15] <brushdemon> what's the output of `cat /etc/resolv.conf`?
[08:16] <tahder> no such file or directory
[08:18] <brushdemon> okay, so /etc/resolv.conf contains the DNS servers that your system will send out dns requests too
[08:18] <brushdemon> if you don't have that file, your system won't know how to translate DNS names such as google.com to the related IP address
[08:18] <loopy> Apachez: 16.04?
[08:19] <brushdemon> the command I gave you before should have wrote, or overwrote /etc/resolv.conf
[08:19] <tahder> oh i see. Well hold on let me see if i cant find it the other way
[08:19] <brushdemon> that's that the `>` symbol does in shell
[08:19] <tahder> ohh ok let me try a few things then
[08:20] <Apachez> loopy: mmm
[08:20] <Apachez> 16.04 LTS, udpated from 15.10
[08:20] <Apachez> with 15.10 the setting was valid (Never meant never)
[08:20] <Apachez> in 16.04 "Never" seems to mean "whatever" :P
[08:21] <Apachez> every morning I have that damn green icon in unity telling me I have updates
[08:21] <Apachez> while I have configured updated to "Never" check for updates etc
[08:21] <tahder> oh wait folder name is resolvconf not resolv ill try again
[08:22] <tahder> oh and i have resolv.conf.d inside that folder...so would it be /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d
[08:22] <tahder> w/ */
[08:24] <brushdemon> you should have a file called /etc/resolv.conf
[08:24] <loopy> Apachez: it'll keep bugging you to install those updates until you do but after that, if you uncheck gnome-software from startup applications, that should work
[08:25] <tahder> i thought after the "." is the file
[08:25] <tahder> and the "/" seperated the files
[08:27] <reisio> tahder: both of those can't be true simultaneously
[08:27] <brushdemon> no
[08:27] <brushdemon> .conf is just a file extension name
[08:28] <reisio> tahder: / does separate files & dirs
[08:28] <brushdemon> like .pdf denotes that the file is a pdf document
[08:28] <tahder> thanks -reisio-
[08:28] <brushdemon> '/' is a path seperator to denote which folder you're inside of
[08:28] <reisio> or at least, .pdf suggests it's a pdf document
[08:29] <brushdemon> that's true
[08:29] <reisio> it actually _being_ the PDF format is what makes it that
[08:29]  * reisio digresses
[08:29] <tahder> nothing named resolve then inside of etc
[08:29] <brushdemon> don't confuse the poor guy :p
[08:29] <reisio> resolv
[08:29] <tahder> or anywhere as it apears
[08:29] <brushdemon> on windows that's true
[08:29] <reisio> brushdemon: you're no fun anymore
[08:29] <tahder> is this a bad time to tell you im a girl ?
[08:29] <brushdemon> on unix systems, well that's what `file` is for :p
[08:30] <brushdemon> tahder: is it a bad time to tell you that I don't really care since I'm the same?
[08:30] <brushdemon> it makes no difference in text chat
[08:30] <tahder> perfect time
[08:31] <tahder> can we get back to the point now ?
[08:31] <reisio> what is it you're trying to do?
[08:31] <tahder> there is no resolv.conf inside etc
[08:31] <brushdemon> they seem to be having a dns issue since they can't ping google.com but can ping 8.8.8.8
[08:31] <tahder> resolvconf , yes
[08:31] <lyze> Basically a file path contains "/" and names. The "/" indicates a new folder. So e.g. /etc/resolve.conf would mean that there is a directory called "etc". After the last "/" taht's the file itself. the name of the file to be specific. So "resolve.conf" would be the name. Nothing more. Under windows the thing after the "." would be the file ending, we just use it here also but it isn't mandatory so we recognize it easier.
[08:32] <reisio> resolv
[08:32] <lyze> Under *nix there is a specific way to find out what type a file has ... you can look at the program "file" for more information e.g. "man file"
[08:32] <tahder> reisio im trying to connect to the internet, wifi is connect but page wont display were on the command line trying stuffs but its not working
[08:33] <reisio> really not much reason to know what a file is
[08:33] <reisio> either an app designed to parse the format you think you're dealing with will parse it... or it won't
[08:33] <tahder> OHH! got it
[08:33] <tahder>  i was looking for a file
[08:34] <tahder> i mean folder, there is a file
[08:34] <tahder>  resolv.conf
[08:34] <reisio> gj
[08:34] <tahder> let me try path again
[08:34] <tahder> :D
[08:34] <brushdemon> (y)
[08:34] <brushdemon> reisio: I gave this command to tahder to put in just because it (probably) should work
[08:34] <brushdemon> sudo -s bash -c 'printf "nameserver 8.8.8.8\nnameserver 8.8.4.4\n" > /etc/resolv.conf'
[08:35] <brushdemon> well the command will, but I meant the problem should be sorted after that
[08:35] <tahder> wait i just open resolv.conf on accident.. we might now need to do that it says: nameserver 8.8.8.8 ameserver 8.8.4.4
[08:36] <[[thufir]]> how do I add a user to sudo from the CLI?
[08:36] <EriC^^> [[thufir]]: sudo adduser sudo <user>
[08:36] <reisio> brushdemon: mmm, little destructive, but I guess it's not a big deal with resolv.conf
[08:37] <reisio> [[thufir]]: gpasswd, 'admin' group or something
[08:37] <reisio> [[thufir]]: compare to 'groups YOURcurrentUSER'
[08:37] <EriC^^> [[thufir]]: sorry, sudo adduser <user> sudo
[08:38] <[[thufir]]> I'm on digital ocean.  I did "sudo adduser thufir sudo" but god "adduser:  the user 'thufir' does not exit.  I'm as root, that's how digital ocean starts off.
[08:38] <tahder> ok i put in the command and it just returns a blinking ">" like i should input something
[08:39] <tahder> or maybe its thinking but it stopped blinking
[08:39] <[[thufir]]> EriC^^: thanks
[08:39] <[[thufir]]> reisio: thanks.
[08:40] <lyze> [[thufir]], https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/initial-server-setup-with-ubuntu-14-04 ^^
[08:41] <[[thufir]]> lyze: are digital ocean droplets sufficient for Asterisk?  Or, is that too much?  I know that they're virtualized, so...
[08:41] <reisio> tahder: that suggests you missed a quotation mark
[08:41] <reisio> tahder: or the person who gave you the command did
[08:41] <Youbi> Hi, I’m trying to deploy Openstack on a single Ubuntu 16.04 VM, I run `conjure-up openstack` but after the second screen, the installer freeze :/
[08:41] <[[thufir]]> pardon, that was for anyone about asterisk on digital ocean.  not just lyze.
[08:42] <reisio> '>' is what bash gives you when you haven't completed a statement, almost always because of a missing or extra quotation mark
[08:42] <tahder> oh ha ok hold on
[08:42] <lyze> [[thufir]], if it#s pwerful enough then sure why not ^^
[08:44] <tahder> i doesn't return anything
[08:44] <tahder> but its at ~
[08:45] <tahder> AND its not blinking
[08:46] <tahder> wait did you mean to put 2 nn's in nameserver the second time its mentioned?
[08:51] <tahder> reisio or brushdemon, are you still with me?
[08:52]  * reisio reads up
[08:52] <reisio> tahder: that's normal
[08:52] <reisio> tahder: he gave you something that overwrites resolv.conf
[08:53] <reisio> the normal response to it is nothing
[08:53] <reisio> check your network again
[08:53] <tahder> oh i see okay
[08:55] <tahder> okay so it connects to google but if i try to search something it doesn't connect and response with: server not found
[08:57] <reisio> tahder: this is a finished install? Does/did networking work normally from the live OS (install media)?
[08:57] <tahder> do you mean the OS it came with, yes
[08:58] <tahder> hold on, im attempting to make a proxy but i don't think itll work
[08:58] <tahder> nope i didn't think so
[09:01] <tahder> HOLY TAPELINE!! is that the time?! i HAVE to go to bed before the sun rises!
[09:01] <reisio> ninite
[09:01] <tahder> thank you all and ill see you tomorrow hopefully
[09:08] <alexlist> Hi. I have set a root password on my Ubuntu 16.04 workstation, but would still like users in group "sudo" to do things like installing packages, configuring printers etc. However, it looks like policykit now always asks for the root password, which I don't want to share with all users... As far as I understand, /etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d/50-localauthority.conf and 51-ubuntu-admin.conf are the relevant config files. I don't want to lock my
[09:08] <alexlist> self out entirely, but will changing the order of these files fix my problem?
[09:10] <Triffid_Hunter> alexlist: I thought the whole point of sudo is that users' use their own password?
[09:12] <alexlist> Yes, yes, true. But imagine a user manages to f... up the sudo configuration, and I want to remotely fix this (via remote root login using pubkey), I need to be able to log in as root, bypassing sudo. That's why I set a root password. But now, all administrative actions on the GUI, e.g. running usb-creator-gtk, Software Center, configuring printers ask for the root pw instead of the user's pw. That was not what I wanted...
[09:12] <Triffid_Hunter> alexlist: ah that sounds dumb
[09:13] <Apachez> loopy: thanks, I have deselected "gnome software" from startup... lets hope the autoupdate will stop nagging me :)
[09:13] <loopy> Apachez: np
[09:15] <matrix_> hi guys, a friend of mine yesterday showed me a security evaluation service online to check whether for example your email provider is secure or not and I've read about many email providers and their respective evaluations, going from A, B, C etc. but now I cannot find/recall it, anyone knows? It's kind of like an online professional security tester that runs many tests and gives an output. Sorry if I'm out of topic here, I didn't know where else to ask :)
[09:15] <battery> screen is not installed on ubuntu?
[09:15] <battery> ‘screen'
[09:15] <akik> battery: sudo apt install screen
[09:15] <battery> thanks
[09:16] <akik> alexlist: that sounds just weird. i'll try to test too
[09:17] <alexlist> akik: It is not that weird at all, looking at the config. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/18614604/
[09:18] <alexlist> akik: My assumption - not being intimately familiar with PolicyKit, but having read the manpage, is that as long as the root account (UID 0) is locked, the first file is irrelevant, and the second one kicks in...
[09:21] <battery> how can i exit from screen? akik ?
[09:21] <akik> alexlist: ok i don't know how that works. i set the root password, then created a new user with sudo group and logged in with it. installing language support under unity asks for the user password
[09:21] <lyze> battery, ctrl+A D
[09:21] <akik> battery: ctrl+d or exit
[09:21] <hateball> battery: do you mean detach? ctrl+a D
[09:21] <alexlist> battery: Ctrl-A ? gives you the help page
[09:21] <hateball> battery: then "man screen"
[09:22] <battery> ctrl + ad or ctrl + AD?
[09:22] <lyze> oh right
[09:22] <lyze> lowercase
[09:22] <alexlist> akik: ok, thx for trying to reproduce... will do some more local digging.
[09:22] <battery> lowercase
[09:22] <battery> thanks lyze
[09:22] <lyze> if a process is running while you press ctrl+a d then it'll get detatched. aka you can open it after that again
[09:22] <akik> alexlist: can you give me a test which in your case asks for the root password?
[09:22] <lyze> You can reattach to that screen again with screen -r <name>
[09:23] <lyze> screen -list gives yuo a list of screens running
[09:23] <varaindemian> locate -
[09:23] <battery> akik: what is ctrl + d?
[09:23] <varaindemian> locate -A i3blocks doesn't return anything
[09:23] <alexlist> akik: usb-creator-gtk, trying to write a current Xenial desktop .iso to a usb stick for example. Or changing settings of a printer (e.g. IP)
[09:23] <akik> battery: it causes your shell to quit
[09:23] <battery> :( ctrl + c?
[09:24] <lyze> ctrl + c gets redirected to the inner program
[09:24] <battery> you confused ctrl + d with ctrl +c? akik
[09:24] <alexlist> akik: org.opensuse.cupspkhelper.mechanism.printer-remote-edit
[09:24] <akik> battery: no i'm not confused
[09:25] <battery> ctrl + d  <—— end of line, ctrl + c <—— quit? akik
[09:25] <akik> alexlist: did you start usb-creator-gtk with sudo?
[09:26] <alexlist> akik: no, as user, on the shell, or via Unity -> Startup Disk Creator, same result
[09:26] <akik> alexlist: i think it needs disk group access to be able to write on to a usb stick
[09:27] <akik> battery: you can exit a shell with ctrl+d. it also closes screen if you only have one window with one shell in it
[09:28] <akik> battery: ctrl+c does not exit a shell or close screen
[09:28] <vbotka> matrix_, http://mxtoolbox.com/ might be one of them?
[09:28] <battery> akik: then if i press ctrl + d, then i can assume terminal with screen -r?
[09:29] <matrix_> vbotka, I dunno, let me see, thanks
[09:29] <vbotka> matrix_, as of the security, https://www.ssllabs.com/ might be useful too
[09:29] <akik> battery: ok for screen detach you need to use ctrl+a d and for screen attach screen -r
[09:30] <battery> ok thanks akik :)
[09:30] <alexlist> akik: yeah, but then polkit should catch that and ask for the user's password to access the disk via sudo
[09:30] <alexlist> akik: try configuring a printer... eg changing the cups config, same story
[09:31] <tatertots_> tahder you still around?
[09:32] <matrix_> vbotka, I dunno, I'm not sure it was that one, it was more of a professional, the only I guess, security tester, giving evaluations such as AAA+ etc. to all email providers or webservices... I cannot recall...
[09:32] <varaindemian> locate -A i3blocks doesn't return anything
[09:33] <varaindemian> Can someone help?
[09:33] <battery> ctrl + d == exit?
[09:33] <battery> akik:
[09:33] <akik> battery: if you're in a shell prompt, ctrl+d closes that shell
[09:33] <niko> :10
[09:34] <battery> exit == ctrl + d?
[09:34] <battery> akik:
[09:35] <akik> battery: yes
[09:35] <battery> thanks :)
[09:40] <akik> alexlist: changing printer options doesn't ask password at all in unity
[09:43] <akik> alexlist: even software updater didn't ask for password :P
[09:44] <akik> maybe it caches the sudo password for a longer time
[09:45] <eyfour> Who do I contact in order to get bug fixes for init scripts pulled into the repos?
[09:45] <eyfour> (the package maintainer for the package in question is an upstream debian developer)
[09:46] <Bengt__> Hello, thinking of trying out linux as os for the first time, any tips? Which one too choose?
[09:46] <bazhang> Bengt__, this is ubuntu support
[09:46] <eleazardd> #haskell.es
[09:47] <cub> Bengt__: perhaps more suited for #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[09:47] <Xeth> hello, quick question, i installed 16.04 last night and ran updates and all that, but after that i was not able to install anything from software center and apt-get was also not working, any reason why this could happen?
[09:48] <Ben64> Xeth: depends on what the error message was
[09:48] <Bengt__> If this is only support, is there a diffrent channel that would be appropriate?
[09:48] <EriC^^> Xeth: try running it from the terminal and see what it says
[09:49] <cub> Bengt__: as I wrote, try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[09:50] <Xeth> no error, on software center, says installing then goes away (.deb) when in apt-get stated not found
[09:50] <Xeth> even tho i know it is correct
[09:51] <Ben64> whats the exact command and error
[09:51] <Xeth> not on it at the moment, will get there now now and see if there is a error message
[09:51] <Xeth> for example sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool also tried untiy-tweak and tweak-tool
[09:57] <Guest56283> hey how do I access ftp protocol other than from ftp command in ubuntu ?
[09:57] <stc> Guest56283: You can access FTP servers through nautilus (files)
[09:59] <Guest56283> any other way through some command that gets me access to its socket ?
[10:00] <stc> Guest56283: What are you trying to do ?
[10:00] <Guest56283> What I require is to customize it my way !
[10:00] <alexlist> akik: I think I need to reinstall my box :P
[10:00] <alexlist> akik: I upgraded it from 15.04->15.10->16.04 ;)
[10:01] <alexlist> akik: I will try to reproduce the problem on a fresh install, and if I run into it again, open a bug on LP.
[10:01] <Guest56283> way of interactivity basically !
[10:01] <stc> Guest56283:  Not sure what that means. Sorry. Do you need to access files on an FTP server? or do you want to write a script or something that performs an action on an FTP ?
[10:01] <alexlist> akik: thanks a lot for your help.
[10:01] <Ben64> Guest56283: you're free to write your own ftp client
[10:02] <akik> alexlist: i'm not at all familiar with polkit
[10:02] <Guest56283> Ben64 : how >
[10:02] <Guest56283> ?
[10:02] <Ben64> start learning C
[10:02] <sasmith> Can anyone help with a keychain problem in Linux Mint 18??
[10:02] <stc> Guest56283:  Using any programming language you feel like.
[10:03] <Guest56283> Ohk You meant socket programming
[10:03] <Ben64> sasmith: no, but the mint channel can, over at #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[10:04] <Guest56283> In fact I have created such but if I want to use it as a command without invoking its program ?
[10:04] <Guest56283> Any way to do so?
[10:04] <sasmith> Yeah ive asked there. Its a bit quietand was wondering if its a problem with Ubuntu 16.04 that its based on?
[10:04] <Ben64> Guest56283:  you're being way too ambiguous
[10:04] <Ben64> sasmith: it's not ubuntu, not on topic here, sorry
[10:05] <sasmith> Ben64: The core is ubuntu
[10:05] <Ben64> yep, but it isn't ubuntu
[10:06] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:06] <sasmith> Ben64: yes i know that but most of the programs come directly from the ubuntu repositories
[10:06] <Ben64> sasmith: incorrect, mint doesn't use ubuntu repositories
[10:07] <El_Mister> buenas a todos, quien me pueda ayudar, instale xubuntu 14.04 en una maquina que trabaja con XP.
[10:07] <El_Mister> 1 gb de ram 1.33 hz. intel Atom.
[10:07] <El_Mister> El problema lo tengo en que no reproduce musica ni video correctamente, la velocidad de reproduccion es baja..
[10:07] <El_Mister> que pasara?  Editar
[10:07] <El_Mister> good to all, who can help me install Xubuntu 14.04 on a machine that works with XP.
[10:07] <El_Mister> 1 gb ram 1.33 hz . Intel Atom .
[10:08] <sasmith> Ben64: oh really. just one of many lines in the official apt source files: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial main restricted universe multiverse
[10:09] <El_Mister> Is Xubuntu 14.04
[10:09] <Ben64> sasmith: sounds like a good way to get a broken system
[10:10] <sasmith> Ben64: do you know what you are talking about. This is fresh install with a few apt-get install's. Not event changed/added to apt
[10:10] <El_Mister> my pc trabaja wiht xp
[10:10] <Ben64> sasmith: i know that this channel only supports ubuntu so you're wasting your time here
[10:11] <Guest56283> Ben64 : What procedure does Ubuntu follow when I execute any command ? Searches for its binary code in given paths ! Right ?
[10:11] <hateball> !es| El_Mister
[10:11] <El_Mister> ?'
[10:11] <sasmith> Ben64: so if i install ubuntu and have the exact same issue what then
[10:11] <El_Mister> ok
[10:12] <Ben64> Guest56283: if you type "foofoo" on the command line, it looks through the directories specified in the variable $PATH for that, if it can't find it, it gives up
[10:12] <El_Mister> no its the same xubuntu and ubuntu
[10:12] <Guest56283> Ya I know but what if I have a .class file
[10:13] <Guest56283> to invoke I would have to use Jre right?
[10:13] <El_Mister> ok im go to spanish
[10:14] <Ben64> Guest56283: you might want the #java channel for that
[10:14] <hateball> El_Mister: You are free to ask here, it's just usually easier to communicate in your native language :)
[10:15] <kisb> Guest56283, yes sir
[10:18] <ericRajuin> does lxmusic support plaing m3u8 playlist ?
[10:24] <Guest56283> Ok, leave that apart. The problem I faced in using ftp is that I cannot interrupt to invoke any other procedure till I exit from the connection from server. As you see an "ftp>" environment !
[10:24] <Guest56283> Any solution to this?
[10:25] <tatertots_> ericRajuin https://xmms2.org/wiki/Media_formats .....lxmusic is xmms2 based
[10:25] <Ben64> Guest56283: use screen?
[10:27] <Guest56283> ya
[10:27] <vccxv> HELLO?
[10:29] <tatertots_> hi vccxv
[10:30] <tatertots_> what kind of ubuntu problem are you having vccxv?...no need for caps lock to be enabled
[10:32] <Guest56283> More appropriately , if you just want to check if a connection can be established with the given server and return with result , you still have to use same ftp procedure that leads to establishing a connection. You need to stress over your mind a little if you want to analyse my issue !
[10:32] <vccxv> My problem is that Ubuntu sucks, so I'm moving to Arch.
[10:32] <Guest56283> then why on #ubuntu vccxv ?
[10:33] <vccxv> Just wanted to say goodbye.
[10:33] <tatertots_> once you boil down what you think sucks about ubuntu you will likely find that same challenge with linux in general
[10:33] <bapun> linux is free , you can try anything you want
[10:34] <Guest56283> not redhat bapun
[10:34] <tatertots_> redhat is FREE
[10:34] <tatertots_> their SUPPORT  is NOT
[10:34] <vccxv> I tried the payed version of redhat, and it's not worth the money unless your using it for corporate purposes.
[10:34] <bapun> its source code is free
[10:34] <Guest56283> rhel is free ?
[10:35] <bapun> its source code is free Guest56283
[10:35] <abhvl> no
[10:35] <abhvl> its not free.
[10:35] <abhvl> of cost.
[10:35] <vccxv> Mint is pretty cool, but if you know what your doing it can get kind of old.
[10:35] <tatertots_> anybody can download rhel just register for a redhat portal account and bam..you're in....need their support...better get a support "contract"
[10:35] <abhvl> mint gets hacked
[10:36] <Ben64> this isn't the place for distro discussion, use #ubuntu-offtopic or somewhere else
[10:36] <mcphail> vccxv et al: this channel is not for trolling, or for general discussion of other distros. Please take the discussion elsewhere
[10:36] <bapun> yeah , but we can use centos which is redhat without branding
[10:36] <Guest56283> Ben64 : More appropriately , if you just want to check if a connection can be established with the given server and return with result , you still have to use same ftp procedure that leads to establishing a connection. You need to stress over your mind a little if you want to analyse my issue !
[10:36] <tatertots_> with red hat you're paying for their support expertise not the operating system
[10:36] <Ben64> Guest56283: no idea what your goal is
[10:37] <tatertots_> centOS is also community supported.........keyword "SUPPORT"
[10:37] <bapun> yes , and it is pretty good , if someone dont want to pay for redhat , they can use centos
[10:38] <tatertots_> with red hat you actually have a escalation path and can get an engineer on the phone in minutes
[10:38] <bapun> does ubuntu gives paid support??
[10:38] <Guest56283> no
[10:38] <k1l> bapun: yes, canonical is the commercial partner
[10:39] <bapun> that's good
[10:39] <Guest56283> ya but you would get commercial support if you buy ubuntu phone !
[10:39] <tatertots_> having an escalation path might not mean much in your home/home office....but in the "enterprise" ..baby that's a different ball game.
[10:40] <Guest56283> Anybody tried ubuntu phone ?
[10:40] <k1l> Guest56283: ubuntu phone doesnt have anything to do with this
[10:41] <bapun> I am planning to buy one
[10:41] <Guest56283> k1l : but its OS does !
[10:41] <bapun> lets just stick with ubuntu with desktop abd servers
[10:42] <hateball> !touch | Guest56283
[10:44] <Guest56283> The main problem with ubuntu today is not enough softwares and apps !
[10:44] <Guest56283> like Windows
[10:44] <k1l> Guest56283: we stick to technical support in here. for general chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:45] <Guest56283> OHK
[10:46] <Guest56283> I need a mouse server on ubuntu
[10:46] <Guest56283> any package ?
[10:48] <hateball> Guest56283: Can you explain what a "mouse server" does?
[10:49] <tatertots_> this will be interesting
[10:49] <Guest56283> mouse server can be used to remotely access my mouse on this system anywhere
[10:49] <Guest56283> though ip
[10:49] <hateball> !info synergy
[10:55] <Shadow_aok> hi
[10:55] <Shadow_aok> does someone know why nginx ldap auth module isn't part of nginx-extras anymore ?
[11:00] <kvmmm> Right now I'm using Virtual Machine Manager as the GUI. Is there a GUI that will allow me to control what drive partitions a Windows guest will see??
[11:00] <kvmmm> Or give more control over which hardware the guest OS can access?
[11:00] <kvmmm> ooops, I thought this was the KVM channel
[11:01] <evil_dan2wik> What do I do when an update failed and now I am missing apt and apt-get ?
[11:01] <evil_dan2wik> Is there a place I can get those from? or compile them from somewhere?
[11:01] <k1l> evil_dan2wik: "missing"?
[11:01] <k1l> evil_dan2wik: what did you do?
[11:02] <evil_dan2wik> I do not know.
[11:02] <guest> evil_dan2wik: probably back up your entire /home directory, reinstall, and copy it back, to be honest
[11:02] <hateball> evil_dan2wik: /var/log/apt/history* will show what was last done to your system
[11:02] <evil_dan2wik> The update failed because my drive was filled up during the update
[11:02] <guest> evil_dan2wik: but what do you mean by "missing"? What happens when you try to run "apt-get update"
[11:03] <evil_dan2wik> -bash: apt-get: command not found
[11:03] <guest> what's the output of this: echo $PATH
[11:03] <ericRajuin> tatertots_: thanks
[11:03] <k1l> evil_dan2wik: can you give more details what exactly happened and what you did?
[11:03] <evil_dan2wik>  /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
[11:04] <evil_dan2wik> I run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[11:04] <k1l> evil_dan2wik: obviously that doesnt remove apt
[11:04] <evil_dan2wik> and then something filled up the drive during the update and a ton of updates failed
[11:06] <hateball> evil_dan2wik: is the drive still full?
[11:06] <evil_dan2wik> No.
[11:06] <k1l> what did you remove?
[11:07] <evil_dan2wik> I run a music bot and it caches music before playing it, that was taking up most of it
[11:07] <evil_dan2wik> All I removed was the audio cache
[11:08] <[4-tea-21> Howdy. Anybody here using a Rift on a Nvidia card? Do you experience a degradation of graphics performance when the Rift is plugged in when running Ubuntu?
[11:09] <hateball> evil_dan2wik: you could try a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a"
[11:10] <evil_dan2wik> Unknown option: a
[11:10] <hateball> hmmm, seems I am out of the loop. things must have changed
[11:10] <k1l> evil_dan2wik: that doesnt sound good, to be honest.
[11:11] <evil_dan2wik> Ok
[11:11] <evil_dan2wik> I will re-install
[11:11] <hateball> evil_dan2wik: anyhows, you can manually grab the apt and libapt packages here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/
[11:11] <hateball> evil_dan2wik: if you have working dpkg
[11:11] <evil_dan2wik> It sounds easier to re-install than fix this.
[11:12] <k1l> i guess there is a lot more broken than just apt.
[11:12] <evil_dan2wik> My working ubuntu doesn't accept -a as an option either though
[11:13] <UbuntuDude> how to make the file operation (e.g. copying) window stays always on top of unity ubuntu?
[11:13] <kvmmm> So right now I'm running Ubuntu alonside Windows. I'd like to eventually delete windows. Will I get better performance if I format my hard drive and reinstall ubuntu? Or will it be fine to keep using the install I have? I'm using an SSD
[11:13] <bazhang> UbuntuDude, you asked this earlier, 'always on top' option
[11:15] <bazhang> kvmmm, the speed should not be effected by dual boot or not
[11:15] <EriC^^> kvmmm: it won't make a difference
[11:15] <bazhang> !wubi
[11:16] <EriC^^> bazhang: ?
[11:16] <EriC^^> he said alongside, not inside
[11:16] <bazhang> EriC^^, checking if that factoid even still exists
[11:16] <EriC^^> oh ok
[11:17] <EriC^^> kvmmm: if you plan to delete windows you'd want to use the space windows took though, so maybe backup and reinstall ubuntu to the whole disk, or use the windows space as a separate /home partition or so
[11:18] <kvmmm> yes, I would use that space as another partition for virtual machines
[11:18] <hateball> can just liveboot gparted and do resizing operations
[11:18] <kvmmm> I just want to make sure there's no performance loss; like it's better to have Ubuntu in the centre of the disk (though it's an SSD, so I guess no center)
[11:23] <chrisss123456> Since a recent update, has the scrolling on laptops been funny to anyone else? Mine keeps jumping back up to the top of the page randomly...
[11:26] <daumie> bazhang:  Windows speed is affected by dual boot
[11:26] <k1l> daumie: no
[11:27] <daumie> kvmmm: My opinion is you won't see any increase in speed....but if you are comfortable using Ubuntu install....go ahead and delete windows fam
[11:27] <daumie> chrisss123456: i have the latest updates installed .... haven't seen that bro
[11:27] <daumie> k1l: no to what?.....
[11:27] <chrisss123456> daumie: damn. any thought to what it might be?
[11:28] <manintheskyhi> hi guys!
[11:28] <k1l> kvmmm: on a SSD there should not be any difference. but some SSDs tend to get slower when they get nearly full. but that doesnt play into your setup
[11:28] <kvmmm> ok thanks
[11:28] <manintheskyhi> How can I disable /var/log/auth.log  ?
[11:28] <k1l> daumie: that windows is affected by a dualboot.
[11:28] <daumie> k1l: Windows fast startup is turned off on most dual boot systems....that affects startup speed...
[11:29] <daumie> k1l: :-p
[11:29] <k1l> daumie: yes, that is because windows is lying to you in saying it is a faster "restart" while its hibernating the filesystems.
[11:31] <daumie> All in all....fast startuo is effected by dual boot..... atleast we can agree on that bruh! k1l
[11:32] <k1l> daumie: which is all just chatter that is not related to the technical support issue of the user.
[11:33] <manintheskyhi> How can I disable /var/log/auth.log  ?
[11:36] <daumie> k1l: back to the question.....It doesn't affect speed on Ubuntu
[11:37] <Ben64> manintheskyhi: your question doesn't make sense, can you explain your objective
[11:37] <manintheskyhi> I want disable that the system writes /var/log/auth.log
[11:38] <Ben64> which will accomplish....what?
[11:38] <k1l> manintheskyhi: at all? or just that one service doesnt write into that?
[11:39] <Triffid_Hunter> manintheskyhi: simplest way is probably to symlink it to /dev/null and tell logrotate to leave it alone
[11:39] <manintheskyhi> I want disable all logs if it is possible
[11:40] <Ben64> manintheskyhi: but why
[11:40] <Triffid_Hunter> manintheskyhi: this sounds like an XY problem, please tell us what you're actually doing, not the way you think is a good way to do it
[11:40] <manintheskyhi> I want to disable the server logs!
[11:41] <Ben64> WHY
[11:42] <abhvl> Ben64, its his computer?
[11:42] <abhvl> manintheskyhi, which server? apache?
[11:42] <useraa> Has anyone used Pinguy OS? What are your thoughts of it?
[11:42] <manintheskyhi> Apache logs are disabled!
[11:42] <Ben64> abhvl: i'm trying to figure out the actual problem
[11:43] <ikonia> useraa: nothing to do with ubuntu, so not really discussed here
[11:43] <abhvl> ok
[11:43] <abhvl> manintheskyhi, so which server you are talking about?
[11:43] <manintheskyhi> I want no disbale the vsftpd and auth logs.
[11:43] <Ben64> manintheskyhi: ok, theres a reason you want to disable logs. there is some problem you think this will fix, explain yourself
[11:43] <k1l> manintheskyhi: see /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf
[11:43] <k1l> manintheskyhi: but i must say, that what you do sounds like you try to hide what you do on a server, which is not fullfilled with the way you do it.
[11:43] <useraa> Well, I just want to know the differences between Pinguy OS compared to plain Ubuntu that's all
[11:44] <ikonia> useraa: nothing to do with this channel
[11:44] <useraa> I know it's based on Ubuntu
[11:44] <ikonia> as the pinguy support guys
[11:44] <ikonia> they know what they have changed and why
[11:44] <k1l> useraa: better ask the pinguy guys, since they should know what they changed.
[11:44] <useraa> k, worth asking anyway, I just do my own research
[11:44] <bazhang>    /msg alis list pinguy to find it useraa it's offtopic here
[11:46] <kvmmm> anyone here use virt-manager? Is there any way to mount different hard-drives for the guest OS?
[11:46] <kvmmm> Sorry, I asked in the KVM chats but it's too noob a question maybe
[11:47] <ikonia> you just mount them like you would do a physial address
[11:47] <Black007> recover by usb
[11:47] <ikonia> as long as you present the device to the vm - it's just a normal disk
[11:47] <kvmmm> but how do I do that?
[11:48] <ikonia> what do you mean how do you do it ?
[11:48] <ikonia> do what part ?
[11:48] <kvmmm> how do I present the device to the VM?
[11:48] <ikonia> in it's hardware definition, you define a virtual disk mapped to a physical disk
[11:49] <Black007> install another os to VM like windows
[11:49] <Black007> then use transMAc
[11:49] <Black007> and all ur HDD to other guest os
[11:49] <ikonia> Black007: was that for kvmmm ?
[11:49] <Black007> yes
[11:49] <kvmmm> right now I have Windows 10 installed as a guest
[11:49] <ikonia> that makes no sense
[11:50] <kvmmm> but it can only see the 20gb I created for the windows 10 OS
[11:50] <ikonia> you're telling him to re-install a different OS so he can see a disk ?
[11:50] <Black007> we can add extra partion or hdd in Virtual machine
[11:50] <ikonia> kvmmm: you need to look at the hardware definition of the guest
[11:50] <kvmmm> I'm trying to make Windows 10 see my other internal hard drives
[11:50] <ikonia> kvmmm: and preset additional disks to it through that,
[11:50] <ikonia> kvmmm: then the OS will just see them as normal local disks
[11:50] <Black007> mac os used HFS
[11:51] <Black007> so he need transmac to view data
[11:51] <ikonia> Black007: what are you talking about
[11:51] <kvmmm> so I right-click the 'i' in virt-manager, and click "add hardware" right?
[11:51] <Black007> kvmm is ur os mac or something else ?
[11:51] <kvmmm> Ubuntu
[11:52] <ikonia> kvmmm: in the hardware definition, you get the option to add hardware / manage hardware
[11:52] <kvmmm> where do I find the hardware definition?
[11:52] <ikonia> kvmmm: you add a disk device, and then in the process of that it will ask you where the source of that virtual disk is
[11:52] <ikonia> you point it at the real disk / virtual disk file /whatever you want
[11:53] <ubuntu> hello
[11:53] <ubuntu> can you hear me?
[11:53] <ikonia> yes
[11:55] <kvmmm> ok, thanks. I think I almost have it.
[11:55] <Guest56283> hateball : Where are config files for synergy ?
[11:56] <kvmmm> I'm in the "locate existing storage" but the "open" button is greyed out.
[11:56] <hateball> Guest56283: I don't remember, ages since I used it. Read the man-page for synergy, see if it has a FILES section
[11:59] <kvmmm> ikonia "Storage parameter error." The path '/media/k/SAMPLES' must be a file or a device, not a directory
[11:59] <fractality> Hi - looking for a way to verify host-key fingerprint of my ubuntu server. Hoster has given me hexadecimal fingerprint, server tells me sha256 hash when I try to connect - how can I convert it to hex?
[12:00] <ikonia> kvmmm: ok, so you need the device file, not where you have it mounted
[12:00] <kvmmm> how do I find the device file?
[12:03] <ikonia> kvmmm: it's where you mounted the file system from
[12:03] <kvmmm> I guess Ubuntu auto mounts it
[12:04] <kvmmm> so the question is where does Ubuntu auto-mount filesystems?
[12:06] <evil_dan2wik> in /media doesn't it?
[12:06] <k1l> i would look into /media/user/
[12:15] <goody> hi
[12:15] <rory> I have a question about escaping (or rather, un-escaping) things in bash
[12:15] <rory> I have a command http://paste.ubuntu.com/18629892/
[12:15] <goody> anyone
[12:15] <goody> using 16.04
[12:15] <rory> Problem is that it's treating `ec2metadata --local-ipv4` as a string. How can I get it to perform the command, and use the output?
[12:15] <rory> goody: better ask your question.
[12:16] <goody> ......not now
[12:16] <goody> :)
[12:17] <rhumbot> hi all, I have an external hard drive, which does not work on ubuntu any more :/ "Unable to mount *****" I followed the instructions, on Windows I can access it without a problem ...
[12:17] <evil_dan2wik> ntfs?
[12:17] <rhumbot> any suggestions?
[12:17] <rhumbot> yes
[12:17] <hateball> rhumbot: run "dmesg" in a terminal after you plug it in, that should tell you what to do
[12:17] <RandomDude12345> i have a few files made with gedit, couple of photos and videos. i want to backup these files on my mail. (send mail to myself) what would be the best way of doing this? would compressing these files and password protecting these files in a .rar file be the best alternative? are there other native alternatives in ubuntu?
[12:18] <rory> rhumbot: You should try performing a disk check from within Windows, and making sure the drive is unmounted/removed cleanly from Windows.
[12:18] <goody> i purchased used HP 6000pro and installed ubuntu 16.04 but i couldn't  use internal DVD drive as burning
[12:18] <RandomDude12345> (photos and videos are small)
[12:18] <hateball> rhumbot: if it's not been cleanly unmounted in windows it will be marked dirty and not automatically mounted
[12:18] <lyze> RandomDude12345, Is it required to send yourself a mail. can't you just upload them into a cloud account?
[12:18] <goody> anything it is necessary to setup for burning
[12:19] <brainwash> rory: I suggest that you ask in #bash
[12:19] <RandomDude12345> lyze: yeah, can do that as well. mainly wondering about how i could lock the files. (password protected rar for example) what cloud service do you use?
[12:19] <rory> brainwash: I have done, and I've got a reply :)
[12:19] <brainwash> rory: cool :)
[12:19] <goody> i replaced internal DVD drive with other third party one and it is possible to become burn
[12:19] <hateball> goody: do you know that it actually has burning capabilities?
[12:19] <lyze> RandomDude12345, I'm using gdrive for work. but the normal gdrive works as well and is pretty nice.
[12:20] <kvmmm> evil_dan2wik kil ikonia in /media/user I can see folders of the mounted drives, but I'm not allowed to select a folder
[12:20] <hateball> goody: run "wodim -prcap" to show what the drive can do
[12:20] <lyze> RandomDude12345, and yeah ... you theoretically don't need to lock them in a rar file with a password since it's already locked behind your cloud account then
[12:20] <goody> which /etc/conf?
[12:20] <moog_> hi
[12:20] <moog_> what is going on with cloud repo?
[12:20] <moog_> E: Failed to fetch http://vmh9.clouds.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/ruby-systemu/ruby-systemu_2.6.0-1_all.deb  403  Forbidden
[12:21] <lyze> moog_, works fine for me
[12:22] <lyze> moog_, if you are ok with installing it manually, I've uploaded it here: https://transfer.sh/RHHyf/ruby-systemu-2.6.0-1-all.deb
[12:23] <brainwash> or use another mirror
[12:23] <goody> should i type command line each time at burning cd_
[12:23] <kvmmm> are mounted hard drives represented somewhere as a file?
[12:23] <kvmmm> like an ISO?
[12:23] <moog_> lyze: not really, I'm installing chef
[12:23] <goody> yep
[12:23] <moog_> lots of dependencies :(
[12:23] <goody> ISO and data as well ...but it is possible as readable
[12:23] <lyze> moog_, can you change repo servers?
[12:24] <moog_> lyze: of course, I just don't know which one I should change to
[12:24] <moog_> I'm using vmh9.cloud because that was provided by our cloud provider
[12:24] <brainwash> kvmmm: look in /mnt or /media
[12:24] <Bengt__> What VM is recomended for a noob?
[12:24] <moog_> I had too many things explode in my face in this cloud that I wouldn't want to go to an incompatible repo
[12:25] <rory> Bengt__: Virtualbox.
[12:25] <bazhang> Bengt__, #vbox as told elsewehere
[12:25] <moog_> Bengt__: VirtualBox on Windows/OSX, Virt-Manager on Linux
[12:25] <manintheskyhi> Hi guys
[12:25] <Bengt__> But thats owned by Oracle, wont it turn bad?
[12:25] <manintheskyhi> How can I disable that the auth.conf will be write?
[12:26] <lyze> can somebody guide moog_ with switching repositories, he's getting a 403 error when accessing a file from there. I can't right now since I need to go
[12:26] <rory> Bengt__: It's open source.
[12:26] <yopp> Hi. How I can enable zfs module for custom kernel?
[12:26] <moog_> yopp: compile it yourself
[12:27] <manintheskyhi> Disble that auth.conf write by the system: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[12:27] <moog_> Bengt__: it is owned by Oracle but it does support KVM and HyperV
[12:27] <manintheskyhi> how?
[12:28] <yopp> moog_, you mean with dkms?
[12:28] <moog_> as long as you have VTd enabled in your CPU and BIOS/UEFI, hypervisors like QEMU and VBox won't run slow
[12:28] <moog_> yopp: that or like they do it in Linux From Scratch, since you compiled your own kernel it won't match the .ko files in repositories
[12:28] <kvmmm> brainwash /media is emty. /mnt/usr has the drives as folders, but I can't 'choose' them, only open them
[12:29] <kvmmm> it must be a file or device, not a directory
[12:31] <brainwash> kvmmm: device? those are located in /dev
[12:31] <moog_> lyze: I changed the corporate proxy and now it works
[12:31] <Bengt__> What is your own personal reason for using Linux?
[12:32] <moog_> Bengt__: quite strangely it's not sluggishly slow, yet extremely configurable and rich in features
[12:32] <ikonia> Bengt__: enough
[12:33] <kvmmm> I'm using Linux because I hate Windows 10, but I need it for my music-production software, which I'm trying to run in KVM
[12:33] <ikonia> Bengt__: you are jumping from channel to channel with generic linux chat topics
[12:33] <ikonia> Bengt__: this channel is ubuntu support for ubuntu support discussion
[12:33] <kvmmm> oh, sorry I'll ignore him
[12:33] <Bengt__> Thats why I asked for offtopic channel before
[12:33] <lyze> !offtopic | Bengt__
[12:34] <kvmmm> can I upload screenshots here? and which site is prefered? Tinypic?
[12:34] <manintheskyhi> Hi
[12:34] <devkort> Bonjour
[12:35] <manintheskyhi> How can I disable log auth.log?
[12:35] <moog_> Bengt__: my wife insists that I use Windows 10 because all the cool kids use it, but it's Gentoo Linux that lets me alt-tab out of CSGO in under 1 second to read messages from her on Telegram and alt-tab back into the game in, again, less than 1 second, so that my team doesn't kick me
[12:35] <lyze> kvmmm, imgur
[12:35] <lyze> !screenshot
[12:35] <moog_> whereas on Windows 10 the alt-tabbing takes 30 seconds at least
[12:36] <kvmmm> http://i66.tinypic.com/oawzt3.jpg
[12:36] <Pici> manintheskyhi: why would you ever want to do that?
[12:36] <kvmmm> I think that's the wrong way to do it ^^
[12:36] <manintheskyhi> I want disable the logs on server and how I must do it!
[12:37] <kvmmm> is this the right way? http://imgur.com/yNYWAo7
[12:41] <lyze> kvmmm, do you want to use a physical disk as your drive for the vm?
[12:42] <kvmmm> I just want the VM to be able to read the physical disk
[12:42] <kvmmm> and write to it
[12:42] <manintheskyhi> I have done the following http://unsigned-nerd.blogspot.com/2010/08/how-to-disable-sshd-authentication-log.html with file /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf
[12:43] <manintheskyhi> but the logs take on
[12:43] <lyze> kvmmm, select the device in /dev/
[12:45] <kvmmm> lyze where in /dev?
 manintheskyhi: see /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf
[12:46] <lyze> kvmmm, send me the output of "sudo mount -l"
[12:48] <kvmmm> lyze http://pastie.org/10900235
[12:49] <lyze> kvmmm, and the correct path is /media/k/SAMPLES?
[12:49] <lyze> if so then you'd select /dev/sdb1
[12:49] <kvmmm> yes
[12:49] <lyze> if it's /media/k/OS then it would be /dev/sdc2
[12:49] <kvmmm> thanks!
[12:49] <lyze> alright
[12:49] <lyze> c;
[12:49] <kvmmm> I'm learning :P
[12:50] <kvmmm> lyze I shout put SATA right?
[12:51] <manintheskyhi> k1l: I have modified /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf   But also everything will write in auth.log
[12:51] <k1l> manintheskyhi: did you restart the service?
[12:51] <manintheskyhi> How I restart it?
[12:51] <Men_> Command to check running services ?
[12:52] <juanonymous> hello what is the command to search for available packages on ubuntu?
[12:52] <k1l> manintheskyhi: what ubuntu version is that exactly?
[12:52] <juanonymous> is it sudo apt-get search "packagename"
[12:52] <EriC^^> juanonymous: apt-cache search <package name or description>
[12:53] <juanonymous> ok
[12:53] <juanonymous> thanks
[12:53] <Pici> juanonymous: or apt search words, if you're on newer releases
[12:53] <EriC^^> np
[12:53] <k1l> juanonymous: apt search program
[12:53] <Men_> Command to check running services ?
[12:53] <juanonymous> ok thanks
[12:53] <manintheskyhi> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[12:53] <Men_> on network if more specific
[12:53] <k1l> Men_: systemctl status
[12:54] <k1l> manintheskyhi: sudo service rsyslog restart
[12:54] <Men_> k1l: all services running on network
[12:54] <Men_> like servers
[12:55] <k1l> Men_: i dont know what you mean.
[12:55] <k1l> Men_: do you want to look at the ports? what port is used by what program?
[12:56] <Men_> no, command to list all services with their status?
[12:56] <e-dard> I have 8 bytes in a file that are a big endian representation of an unsigned byte. Is there anything I can pipe them into to get the decimal representation of the number?
[12:57] <e-dard> *of an unsigned int :)
[12:58] <Men_> or if I want to know status of a service with its port number then what is the command and option ?
[12:59] <Fuchs> Men_: netstat -taunp      if you only want these that are active on the network
[12:59] <Fuchs> as in: either listening or having an active connection
[13:00] <Men_> Fuchs : thanks exactly what I needed !
[13:00] <kvmmm> thanks for all the help! I'm off
[13:00] <Fuchs> Men_: if you really want all services and status:  systemctl list-units, but from your question I assume you mean services listening on network ports, then you want netstat
[13:00] <Fuchs> Men_: as root  (with sudo) to get process names etc.
[13:00] <Men_> ya
[13:01] <Men_> Is there any other option than killing to unbind or stop them ?
[13:02] <Fuchs> what was the initial use case? I only just joined
[13:02] <Fuchs> (as in: why do you ask, what are you trying to achieve)
[13:03] <Men_> No I actually couldn't find the name of service that was used by a network utility and only knew port that's why ....
[13:03] <Fuchs> then why would you want to stop them?
[13:04] <Fuchs> Usually you can, on modern systems, use systemctl stop servicename      (or disable if you want it to be gone forever). If it is a program you started manually: kill, but with SIGTERM  (that should be default) should quit it
[13:05] <Palm_premium> I think what Men wants to do is stop a service from listening on a certain ip:port combination without stopping the service.
[13:06] <Palm_premium> Men_: How about changing the bindings in the config and reloading the service?
[13:08] <Men_> Its config files are not present on etc . It uses RDP btw
[13:08] <Men_> Btw, what is netconfig for in etc ?
[13:11] <Palm_premium> Men_: First I think you need to look for the process name, perform a netstat -tupan |grep <PORTNR> to find the binary name
[13:12] <Palm_premium> Men_: then do a which <BINARY> to find it's location in the file system, if it is in /opt or one of the local directories the config is probably in a different place than /etc/
[13:13] <Men_> binary name ?
[13:14] <Men_> In type of names it shows servicename only !
[13:15] <Men_> No its not in local directory man
[13:15] <Men_> usr/sbin
[13:16] <Palm_premium> Then I would expect it to be in /etc/ :-$
[13:16] <Palm_premium> Men_: whats the name of the binary?
[13:16] <Men_> mouseserver
[13:18] <Men_> bte
[13:18] <Men_> *btw which works same as locate ?
[13:19] <Palm_premium> No locate finds all files/folder with that name
[13:19] <Palm_premium> Men_: which shows you what file will be run when typing mouseserver
[13:19] <Men_> ya path for that command
[13:20] <Palm_premium> Men_: if you have multiple files named mouseserver which shows you which file will be executed
[13:21] <Men_> So does it means that A script can be binded to a name as such >
[13:22] <Men_> ?
[13:22] <Palm_premium> Men_: I find a wifimouse apllication when looking for info on that mouseserver. But they don't have a lot of documentaion on their website (http://wifimouse.necta.us/)
[13:23] <Palm_premium> which only shows you the path of the file that will be executed.
[13:23] <UbuntuDude> Two questions I've asked GodZillion times in #ubuntu without an answer. If I ask in other channels then it's an off topic related to #ubuntu! therefore I concluded it's just a bunch of newbies in this channel
[13:23] <Palm_premium> Men_: as far as I know you cant rebind the special characters such as ><|&
[13:24] <UbuntuDude> the only difference whether each nubie is messleading othe newbies or not
[13:24] <Palm_premium> Men_: You probably don't want to either.
[13:24] <neufeld> hi
[13:25] <neufeld> kann i get help
[13:27] <Palm_premium> neufeld: Regarding?
[13:33] <Hounddog> How can i update the locale without using dpkg-reconfigure locales? i am trying to configure this in a docker container and am failing :/
[13:44] <Aavar_> Hi. I have just installed (x)Ubuntu on my ol white Macbook. It shows up at boot time, but when I select it it wont boot. THe error is something like "not a system drive" or something like that. Does anyone have an idea?
[13:51] <Apachez> Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/testing/non-US/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Could not resolve 'non-us.debian.org'
[13:51] <Pici> Apachez: on Ubuntu??
[13:51] <Apachez> mmm
[13:51] <Apachez> 16.04 LTS right now
[13:52] <Apachez> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.se.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages
[13:52] <Apachez> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[13:52] <Apachez> now what?
[13:52] <Pici> Apachez: You shouldn't be adding debian repositories to your Ubuntu installs
[13:52] <Apachez> no wait
[13:52] <Apachez> wrong box :)
[13:52] <Apachez> solly!
[13:52] <Pici> k...
[13:53] <Apachez> correct box went much better =)
[14:07] <Men_> Command to check if current user is sudoer ?
[14:08] <ioria> id
[14:10] <rahul-kumi> my sytem uses a wifi adapter of the Broadcomm make-BCM43224[14e4:4353],using a wl driver
[14:11] <Tazmain> hi all I have ubuntu 16.04, but when I try install something or update I get a
[14:11] <Tazmain> 505 not found IP: 197.155.77.2.80 . The results I found on google is for old releases ?
[14:11] <Tazmain> 404 *
[14:14] <anabain> how can I tell my system to use generic video drivers? I'm one of those having issues with 16.04 because of lack of fglrx drivers for radeon, constantly experiencing awful refresh, artifacts and the like. Will switching to generic drivers solve my issues? (not going to game at all)
[14:16] <Dynetrekk> hi, I'm working on a USB3 lab camera attached to an ubuntu 16.04 desktop. I'm not able to connect to the camera except if I run the program with sudo (I get a segmentation fault when running as myself)
[14:16] <Dynetrekk> any ideas? I've added myself to the "dialout" group, and rebooted twice
[14:17] <rahul-kumi> my sytem uses a wifi adapter of the Broadcomm make-BCM43224[14e4:4353],using a wl driver,i am not able to run the aircrack-ng on this, as there is no proper support for this driver could someone suggest a solution..
[14:17] <Dynetrekk> sorry about that - I don't get a segfault - I get "no camera"
[14:17] <Dynetrekk> any ideas about permissions that my user doesn't have? seems senseless to need sudo/root to run a camera
[14:18] <Men_> rahul-kumi : change adapter
[14:22] <Tazmain> nvm my mirror was bad
[14:28] <JRWR_> I've been searching around and have not found this issue yet: Ubuntu 16.04 I'm getting a kernal panic every few hours at random (sometimes a day. sometimes 3 hours) http://hastebin.com/igikugosab.md is the log -
[14:28] <JRWR_> All Im getting is older data from '11 about the issue
[14:31] <maraneta> a
[14:32] <KeyboardNotFound> When my ubuntu started I got error "system running in low graphics mode", why this happens?
[14:32] <KeyboardNotFound> Also I get error VCE init failed(-22)
[14:34] <JRWR_> KeyboardNotFound: You do not have any accelerated drivers for your graphics card, the built-ings didn't work
[14:35] <KeyboardNotFound> JRWR_: my driver was working, I have two gpus, can I use the integarted intel?
[14:35] <KeyboardNotFound> Ubuntu sucks!
[14:35] <JRWR_> maybe
[14:35] <JRWR_> do you know how to pull logs (just paste bin your dmesg output)
[14:35] <KeyboardNotFound> JRWR_: no access to browser, terminal only
[14:36] <JRWR_> apt install pastebinit
[14:36] <varaindemian> Nautilius can't the usb flash drive. Little help pls
[14:36] <JRWR_> dmesg > pastebinit
[14:36] <JRWR_> :3
[14:36] <JRWR_> well
[14:36] <JRWR_> dmesg | pastebinit
[14:38] <KeyboardNotFound> JRWR_: do you need the whole dmesg or just the tail /?
[14:38] <JRWR_> whole thing
[14:38] <JRWR_> shove it into a pastebin
[14:40] <KeyboardNotFound> JRWR_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18637239/
[14:43] <anabain> which are the generic video drivers for ubuntu?
[14:43] <JRWR_> KeyboardNotFound: Looks like the driver is loading correctly, at this point I'm not sure
[14:43] <KeyboardNotFound> JRWR_: Ihave also installed intel-microcode
[14:43] <KeyboardNotFound> how to select my X server to use it ?
[14:44] <JRWR_> thats for your processor
[14:44] <akik> anabain: vesa is a generic driver
[14:44] <KeyboardNotFound> JRWR_: Yes I have i5 with integrated GPU
[14:46] <KeyboardNotFound> How to select which gpu to use my os?
[14:47] <jiggawattz> KeyboardNotFound ▸ nVidia
[14:47] <jiggawattz> o wait
[14:47] <jiggawattz> not on UBuntu
[14:47] <jiggawattz> Do not get nVidia
[14:47] <KeyboardNotFound> jiggawattz: did you meandon't get ubuntu?
[14:47] <jiggawattz> nvidia GPUs are terrible in Linux
[14:48] <jiggawattz> nvidia is a bad company
[14:48] <tatertots> brb
[14:48] <huesaurus> too bad they outperform the only competition they have :/
[14:49] <KeyboardNotFound> There's no way to repair my ubuntu :(
[14:49] <KeyboardNotFound> it stopped working as windows xp was before, BSOD and never way to start it
[14:49] <KeyboardNotFound> hahaha
[14:54] <tatertots> I updated my 12.04 LTS system to a newer kernel and now applications that use OpenGL are having issues.  I'll see Loading OpenGL driver libGL.so.1 error failed request
[14:55] <xangua> By newer kernel you mean something outside of official Ubuntu repositories?
[14:57] <KeyboardNotFound> My computer started in low graphics mode, but I can't start unity, How to repair it?
[14:57] <KeyboardNotFound> tatertots: which GPU do youhave?
[14:57] <tatertots> I have amd radeon 4250 onboard gpu
[14:58] <KeyboardNotFound> tatertots: I'm having similar problems, amd dones't have driver for ubuntu 16.04
[14:58] <tatertots> no it was an official update..as ubuntu 12.04 LTS is still supported i'd have no need to taint the system with any other method of obtaining a new kernel
[14:59] <KeyboardNotFound> tatertots: tatertots yes it was true, but after upgrading I'm having unsolvable problem...
[15:00] <tatertots> I'll share some things i've already tried
[15:01] <minimec> tatertots: COUld it be that you use the proprietary amd driver and that one is no longer supported with the new kernel you installed?
[15:02] <tatertots> i ran update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf
[15:03] <tatertots> i selected the mesa manual mode
[15:03] <tatertots> still OpenGL applications have issues
[15:03] <KeyboardNotFound> is there way to downgrade to old kernel and older software?
[15:04] <tatertots> i do use the proprietary amd driver, i can still open catlyst control center and use it to change monitor configurations as i have 3x monitors attached, so it appears the amd ccc software still functions in that regard
[15:05] <nacc> KeyboardNotFound: typically, Ubuntu leaves the last kernel installed for specifically that reason
[15:05] <minimec> tatertots: I see.
[15:05] <k1l> tatertots: see what driver is in use
[15:05] <KeyboardNotFound> nacc: ubuntu doesn't care about AMD users
[15:05] <tatertots> i can still use the amd ccc that comes with the proprietary driver to enable/disable 1 of 3 monitors i have connected
[15:06] <nacc> KeyboardNotFound: that's FUD.
[15:06] <nacc> KeyboardNotFound: 1) "Ubuntu" is not a person, so can't "care" one way or the other :)
[15:06] <nacc> KeyboardNotFound: 2) the decision to move to amdgpu is AMD's decision
[15:06] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: that is not right. please dont spread such wrong things
[15:07] <todd_dsm_wk> hey all, ubuntu - how would you ask the system to tell you the name of a specific package? eg: openjdk-8-jdk.deb  I need to get the .deb package name output somehow.
[15:07] <nacc> KeyboardNotFound: 3) 16.04's release notes made it clear fglrx was no longer supported (by AMD and thus in Ubuntu)
[15:07] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: from a .deb file? or generally?
[15:07] <KeyboardNotFound> nacc: Canonical*
[15:07] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: ubuntu would ship a fglrx with 16.04 if amd would still make one. that is the fact
[15:07] <tatertots> fglrx
[15:08] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: maybe specify your issue more clearly? `apt-cache search` may be what you want
[15:08] <k1l> tatertots: then see the logs syslog and Xorg what is going wrong
[15:08] <tatertots> kil how can i confirm this?....lspci shows kernel moduels fglrx, radeon
[15:08] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: I have two GPU's and I can't start my pc, when I select reconfigure gpu I don't see anything on my screen, Ubuntu is user friendly. Canonical doesn't offer paid support for users
[15:08] <todd_dsm_wk> nacc: all I have is the name; need to find the package associate with it. For example, I'm starting with this: aptitude search '~Abackports ?not(~S ~i ~Abackports)' | grep openjdk
[15:09] <KeyboardNotFound> I have to solve my problem but there is no way, what shoud I do ? Never use ubuntu ?
[15:09] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: you are mixing a lot of things here.
[15:09] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: what?
[15:09] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: I would do `apt-cache search openjdk`
[15:09] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: although aptitude search should be equivalent
[15:10] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: given that output, what are you trying to get to? the package is, e.g., openjdk-8-jre
[15:10] <ceed^> I am trying to install the package ttf-mscorefonts-installer but I get a bunch of errors and failed downloads. Then I keep getting an error popup daily telling me about a "Failure to download extra data files". All other packages install without problems. I'm on 16.04
[15:10] <tebo> holy crap thats a lotta people
[15:10] <todd_dsm_wk> nacc: just tried 'apt-cache search openjdk' it just give descriptions. like everything else. is there no way to see which package a program comes from?
[15:11] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: each line starts with <pkgname> -
[15:12] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: are you saying package name when you mean .deb name?
[15:12] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: I'm having problems with my PC, and there is no support how to solve it, problem is that Canonical doesn't offer support for their OFFICAL UPDATES which was declared as LONG TERM SUPPORTed... I have no comment
[15:12] <minimec> ceed^: ttf-mscorefonts-installer is some kind of 'downloader', same as flashplugin-installer, that downloads the font from a third party server. That server seems to be unavailable right now.
[15:12] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: canonical does offer support. but you will have to pay them
[15:12] <birkan> hello world
[15:13] <todd_dsm_wk> nacc: probably but yes - I'd like to be able to determine the .deb name somehow.
[15:13] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: and i only see you mixing a lot of wrong statements and accusations. i dont know if its malicious or just out of frustration.
[15:13] <minimec> ceed^: Did you agree to the EULA agreement that pops up?
[15:13] <birkan> how download google earth ?
[15:14] <lerner> I opened a svg file with image viewer. It is huge and I want to focus the image on a certain part. How do I move the image with the keyboard?
[15:14] <minimec> birkan: https://www.google.de/intl/de/earth/download/ge/agree.html
[15:14] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: no problem, I need my pc working, I don't care about paying support
[15:15] <nacc> KeyboardNotFound: have you tried the normal 'nomodeset' approach for graphics issue?
[15:15] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: may I ask why?
[15:15] <birkan> minimec very thank you
[15:15] <KeyboardNotFound> nacc: no, by default I get this
[15:15] <minimec> birkan: No problem.
[15:15] <todd_dsm_wk> ah, yes - I'm needing to list the contents of a package before I install it.
[15:16] <nacc> KeyboardNotFound: right, so what have you done to try and figure out what's going on?
[15:16] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: you don't need the .deb for that.
[15:16] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: what did you do? what ubuntu is that exactly?
[15:16] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: `apt-file`
[15:16] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: ubuntu 16.04
[15:16] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: also, why do you need to do that :) (that's a what, more than a why :)
[15:16] <tatertots> going to reboot brb
[15:16] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: so did it work before with 16.04?
[15:16] <todd_dsm_wk> I have developers to support and Fedora is falling over. Ubuntu is seeming very developer-friendly so I need to find "equivalent" packages, sometimes by their contents.
[15:17] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: yep, after that I upgraded to 16.04 but it wasn't working, so I decided to reinstall and it WAS working and stopped working when restarted pc :)
[15:18] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: ok, so you updated to 16.04 and then it stopped working. did you read one time the release notes? or did you just come here to rant and show that you have no clue what is going on?
[15:20] <todd_dsm_wk> nacc: I have developers to support and Fedora is failing us. Ubuntu is seeming very developer-friendly so I need to find "equivalent" packages, sometimes by their contents.
[15:20] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: and, btw, the LTS upgrade is not even opened yet. so you made the developer upgrade. but nice that you just keep on ranting in here when you made the mess
[15:20] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: I read that there's other AMD driver which is working, but I have second GPU integrated on my intel cpu, and I can't use it
[15:21] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[15:21] <todd_dsm_wk> nacc: for example: what's the ubuntu equivalent to "java-1.8.0-openjdk-devel" ?
[15:22] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: " so that the system is set to use either the amdgpu driver or the radeon driver (depending on the available hardware)."
[15:22] <todd_dsm_wk> nacc: now it seems like I have to scour package contents to find what I'm looking for; but only in a few cases.
[15:23] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: yes. and amd did not make amdgpu work as good as the fglrx before. so please stop complaining in here and complain to amd
[15:23] <jennie> who is responsible for website paste.ubuntu.com ? can someone tell me please?
[15:23] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: Ok, can I disable that gpu and use the other one?
[15:24] <k1l> jennie: i guess best is to send an email to rt (at) ubuntu.com
[15:24] <jennie> rt
[15:25] <xu> hello every
[15:25] <todd_dsm_wk> nacc: apt-file did the trick - thank you.
[15:27] <tatertots> going to eboot brb
[15:27] <tatertots> reboot
[15:27] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: do you work for canonical?
[15:27] <tatertots> i reinstalled fglrx
[15:28] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: no. i dont work for canonical. this channel is run by volunteers.
[15:29] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: sorry, stepped away for a bit (walked the dog). back now, reading scrollback
[15:29] <tatertots> going to reboot ...with fingers crossed, i thought ...hmmm maybe i should reinstall the proprietary drivers since i did update to a newer kernel from when it was originally installed...simply runing fglrxinfo produced the error so if that goes away i think i'll be in good shape
[15:29] <tatertots> brb
[15:29] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: you need to look up what exact card you got and see what the best method is to support it. usually the open source drivers lag behind with the full feature support.
[15:29] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: ah i see what you mean
[15:30] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: what does that package do normally? :)
[15:31] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: I have AMD R5 M230, but as I told you I can use the intel's one, I'm looking for way to disable the amd and use intel only, or start the ubuntu in low resolution
[15:31] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: "java-1.8.0-openjdk-devel".
[15:31] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: easiest is to look into the bios if you can disable the amd there
[15:32] <todd_dsm_wk> it allows java devs to patch java - if they need to. Sometimes the do a pull request, patch something and submit.
[15:32] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: ok, so it's the jdk's development files, then?
[15:33] <todd_dsm_wk> nacc: that's the way it was described to me. I'm all bash/python/ruby - that's above my pay-grade :-)
[15:33] <tatertots> I'm back and with good news..now when i run fglrxinfo it looks like it's supposed to
[15:33] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: Just disabled it and ubuntu again started in low graphics mode, I think that my amd is not problem, maybe X server is not ok ?
[15:34] <todd_dsm_wk> *java* is above my pay-grade :-)
[15:34] <tatertots> shows my OpenGL vendor string and renderer string and ersion string
[15:34] <ceed^> minimec, yes I agreed to everything but it keeps failing.
[15:34] <tatertots> i feel better ...haven't tested my OpenGL software yet but that's a good sign of improvement
[15:34] <nacc> KeyboardNotFound: didn't you just say you want to start in "low graphics mode"?
[15:35] <todd_dsm_wk> I did find a "devel" file () in the debian package openjdk-8-jdk though. I'll let them play with it. Hopefully that will set us in the right direction.
[15:35] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: look at syslog and Xorg log in /var/log for what is wrong
[15:35] <tatertots> now i'm going to try to fire up one of my OpenGL software applications and see if it still pukes
[15:35] <todd_dsm_wk> nacc: anyway - thank you - big help.
[15:36] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: ah ok, yeah, i don't think there is a distinct package for Ubuntu here; typically, we wouldn't encourage users to patch (unless you mean something else) java -- as that would then be unsupported in Ubuntu
[15:37] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: which file Xorg.0.log or Xorg.failsafe?
[15:37] <k1l> log
[15:37] <tatertots> well one OpenGL software is not functional...now to test the others....i expect that they will all work now but i like to be thorough
[15:37] <tatertots> i mean IS functional
[15:37] <todd_dsm_wk> nacc: these crazies are off-roading like you wouldn't believe. I mostly try to give them what they want and walk away.
[15:37] <tatertots> :)
[15:37] <nacc> todd_dsm_wk: fair enough :)
[15:38] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: no errors, only (II) tags
[15:39] <tatertots> i think all is well guys...you'd think i would have remembered to reinstall the proprietary amd driver after a kernel update....especially being a old school nvidia user that didn't use dkms back in the day
[15:40] <KeyboardNotFound> Can I repair ubuntu os with Ubuntu live CD?
[15:40] <tatertots> the clean up jobs after a kernel update.....hey i'll take that over getting a tooth pulled anyday lol :)
[15:40] <minimec> ceed^: Ok. I just checked the 'corefont-packages' it uses a script that downloads the fonts from here...(see link) Is that site available for you? https://sourceforge.net/projects/corefonts/files/
[15:41] <tatertots> boy...that had me all worked up for a second
[15:41] <tatertots> thanks kil
[15:41] <tatertots> have a cup of virtual coffee...it's on me
[15:43] <tatertots> ahhh now i can enjoy all this opengl goodness
[15:44] <colbyw> Is anyone available to help get pipelight working in FF? I've googled and tried all the suggestions, but I still get the install silverlight prompts on netflix
[15:44] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: you need to know what you want to repair first
[15:45] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l: yes you're right, I don't know what is problem on my pc
[15:45] <tatertots> keyboard what kinda ubuntu problem are you having this morning sir?
[15:45] <tatertots> I'm glad my OpenGL problem lasted less than 1/2 hour after it was discovered
[15:46] <tatertots> whew
[15:48] <KeyboardNotFound> tatertots: When I start my pc it starts in "low graphics-mode" and I don't  see the login neighter I can continue in low graphics-mode. First I was thinking it is problem with AMD driver but after disabling the amd gpu and using only intel gpu Istill get the same error.
[15:49] <Exagone313> colbyw: Did you run the command to install the "mozilla plugin"? Check --help and it probably needs sudo/root
[15:49] <tatertots> don't they have a netflix desktop app
[15:49] <tatertots> i could have sworn i saw that somewhere
[15:49] <colbyw> netflix desktop app is a disaster
[15:50] <colbyw> exagon, i'll see what i can find...
[15:51] <tatertots> netflix app a disaster?...non functional or poor performance ...like how is it a disaster?
[15:52] <cgrs> hi everyone!
[15:52] <cgrs> i recently installed ubuntu 16.04 64bit
[15:53] <cgrs> and when i tried to install a font, the font viewer tries to launch, but it doesn't
[15:53] <cgrs> but when i start it from the  terminal, it shows up, with the font i want to install correctly
[15:53] <cgrs> what could be wrong?
[15:54] <cgrs> (my font viewer is the default one: gnome-font-viewer)
[15:57] <colbyw> @tatertots functionality isn't great and neither is the performance. very buggy for me. but the browser side works fine. not sure what the problem is/was.
[16:04] <colbyw> huh...chrome is funtional but firefox, chromium, and opera aren't with pipelight/silverlight.
[16:04] <colbyw> i guess that solves my problem
[16:06] <tatertots> i can't use chrome it's no longer supported on 12.04 LTS
[16:06] <tatertots> chomium is as good as it get's on my 12.04 box
[16:07] <tatertots> chome still works on my 14.04 boxes though
[16:07] <tatertots> when i get the money to build a new rig i can decommission this 12.04 LTS box
[16:09] <tatertots> sounds like you got the silverlight work around going in chrome
[16:17] <Hounddog> i am having troubles with my system telling me that its full "cd /tmbash: cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device" http://pastebin.com/ie8WKGVL
[16:18] <Hounddog> i have been cleaning up all over the place but as i see /dev/sda8 is full and no idea how to clean it
[16:18] <nuke1989> anyone knows how to install xchat on ubuntu 16.04?
[16:19] <nacc> !xchat | nuke1989
[16:19] <teward> nuke1989: I think xchat was dropped, but hexchat is usable - sudo apt-get install hexchat
[16:19] <Garheade> Hounddog, you have to find what files are taking up all the space and remove or delete them.
[16:20] <nuke1989> i tried hexchat but it doesnt minimize when i close it and i must have a window while with xchat i just had an icon
[16:20] <Garheade> Hounddog, I would start by cleaning up /var/log
[16:20] <nacc> Hounddog: cna you pastebin the output of `df -h` ?
[16:20] <nacc> Garheade: it's likely that /tmp itself is full
[16:21] <Hounddog> nacc: i just did that
[16:21] <Hounddog> http://pastebin.com/ie8WKGVL
[16:21] <Garheade> nacc, didn't even think about that.
[16:21] <nuke1989> btw hexchat, has what i want, but there must be a bug that doesnt allow it to work as it should. But oh well. I think i will give up and use hexchat
[16:21] <nacc> Hounddog: ah you filled up your root fs ...
[16:21] <nacc> Hounddog: which also happens to be your /tmp :)
[16:21] <Garheade> Hounddog, run 'll /tmp'
[16:22] <Garheade> There should be plenty of stuff to remove from there.
[16:22] <Garheade> *should*
[16:22] <Hounddog> i have been looking...
[16:22] <nacc> Hounddog: you could try running `sudo du -h --max-depth=1 /` (which may spin your disk quite a bit) to see what in / is taking up the most space. It's possibly that Garheade was right and it's logs that have exploded or something
[16:23] <Hounddog> nacc: i have been checking with ncdu
[16:23] <EriC^^> Hounddog: sudo apt-get autoclean should free some space without harm quickly
[16:23] <EriC^^> for tab completion and stuff
[16:23] <nacc> EriC^^: good point
[16:24] <Hounddog> EriC^^: that gave me 2%
[16:24] <nacc> Hounddog: you also *may* need to run `sync` to flush your deletions "all over the place"
[16:24] <EriC^^> Hounddog: try du -sh /var
[16:24] <nacc> Hounddog: and deleting a file that's open by something else won't help (if that happens to be the case)
[16:24] <Hounddog> EriC^^: 8g lemme check whats taking it up
[16:25] <CaffeineAddict> I am attempting to use tar -zcvf <file> </full/path/from/root> ... it works but the tar.gz file contains the full path inside ... how do I get just the one folder that contains the files
[16:26] <Hounddog> docker files are taking up the space
[16:26] <tatertots> Caffeine....run it from the parent directory
[16:26] <rhnvrm> hey, i'm getting 403 forbidden on `apt-get install libssh2-1`
[16:26] <nacc> rhnvrm: pastebin?
[16:26] <tatertots> cd into the parent and create your archive
[16:26] <nacc> CaffeineAddict: -C option to tar
[16:26] <rhnvrm> nacc, just a sec
[16:26] <CaffeineAddict> nacc: ty
[16:27] <sm00th> hello all
[16:27] <sm00th> does anyone have experience using aa-easyprof?
[16:27] <sm00th> I've used it on debian, but on ubuntu it doesn't work it tells me no abstractions specified, policy groups, etc.   how do I set it up/
[16:27] <rhnvrm> http://pastebin.com/CF3hZ7Bt
[16:27] <rhnvrm> nacc ^
[16:27] <nacc> rhnvrm: i'm guessing a digitaloceans problem
[16:28] <nacc> rhnvrm: (meaning ask their support)
[16:28] <rhnvrm> hmm, okay will do that :)
[16:30] <sm00th> wait I think i'm using wrong command sorry
[16:32] <sm00th> i'm supposed to use aa-genprof doh!
[16:35] <sm00th> dam,  an uexpected error occoured!
[16:35] <sm00th> is that how you spell occoured? hehe
[16:36] <sm00th> pparmor.common.AppArmorBug: Log contains unknown mode senw
[16:36] <sm00th> The error was caused by the log line: [ 1585.343460] audit: type=1400 audit(1467822705.150:668): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="file_perm" profile="/usr/bin/konversation" pid=6877 comm="konversation" laddr=192.168.1.22 lport=58236 faddr=164.132.77.237 fport=6697 family="inet" sock_type="stream" protocol=6 requested_mask="send" denied_mask="send"
[16:37] <sm00th> raise AppArmorException(_('Log contains unknown mode %s') % rmask)
[16:37] <sm00th> apparmor.common.AppArmorException: 'Log contains unknown mode senw'
[16:38] <nacc> !paste | sm00th
[16:38] <nacc> sm00th: please don't spam the channel :)
[16:39] <sm00th> nacc:  go fuck yourself and ban me right now
[16:39] <nacc> sm00th: ...
[16:39] <sm00th> ....
[16:39] <nacc> sm00th: just asking you to follow the channel rules, no need to overreact
[16:39] <sm00th> https://bugs.launchpad.net/apparmor/+bug/1582374
[16:39] <tusharm> I have an apache server running on port 3000 on my ubuntu desktop. I have added port forwarding on my router to forward tcp 3000 to my local ip address 3000. When I try to access it using my external ip:port, I get "The site cannot be reached"
[16:40] <tusharm> What could be the problem?
[16:41] <sm00th> nacc: what does this mean Hotfix commited to bzr trunk r3460, 2.10 branch r3333 and 2.9 branch r3011. ?
[16:41] <tusharm> also, ufw status verbose on my desktop shows tcp/3000 is open from anywhere
[16:41] <sm00th> tusharm: change it to your ip
[16:41] <cgrs> hi! anyone could help me?
[16:42] <ruani_> join #swagger
[16:42] <tusharm> change what to my ip?
[16:42] <sm00th> tusharm:   so its not open from anywhere
[16:42] <sm00th> tusharm:  you can specify port too if you want.
[16:43] <nacc> !help | cgrs
[16:43] <tusharm> sm00th: Change what to my ip?
[16:43] <sm00th> tusharm:  sudo ufw allow out proto tcp from <yourip> <yourport> to any port 3000
[16:43] <tusharm> ok cool ill try that
[16:43] <tusharm> and this is internal ip right?
[16:43] <sm00th> ya
[16:43] <hispeed67> hey, if i have a 240G hard drive with 20G of data, if i use dd to perform backup, will the .dd file be 20g or 240g?
[16:43] <sm00th> skip the yourport part
[16:43] <cgrs> i recently installed ubuntu 16.04 64bit, and when i tried to install a font, the font viewer tries to launch, but it doesn't. when i start it from the  terminal, it shows up, with the font i want to install correctly: anyone could help me?
[16:43] <sm00th> just do your ip
[16:43] <Guest31638> Hey can't connect to #bash from hexchat. Please help
[16:44] <sm00th> anyone know what this means.   Hotfix commited to bzr trunk r3460, 2.10 branch r3333 and 2.9 branch r3011.?
[16:44] <sm00th> how I apply this hotfix?
[16:44] <nacc> hispeed67: depends on what you dd ...
[16:44] <hispeed67> was thinking 'dd if=/dev/sdb of=/tmp/backup.dd
[16:44] <Guest31638> Need to add the configurations for that !
[16:45] <nacc> hispeed67: /tmp/backup.dd will be of the same size as whatever size /dev/sdb is (aiui)
[16:45] <Guest31638> Not listed there !
[16:45] <tusharm> sm00th: nope, still unreachable
[16:45] <hispeed67> argle, bargle..
[16:45] <hispeed67> mumble, grumble.
[16:45] <Guy1524> is it still possible to go into Unity 2D on 16.04
[16:45] <sm00th> tusharm:  oh something is unreachable?
[16:45] <Wixy> Hey guys, I have a log file that keeps growing, and I want to replace something with \n so I can read it properly. what's wrong with this? unbuffer tail -f stream | sed 's/<\/script><script>/\n/'
[16:45] <sm00th> check dmesg what does it say ufw is blocking
[16:46] <nacc> Wixy: do you need to escape the \ in the replacement?
[16:47] <nacc> Guy1524: i believe unity 2d is no longer supported (not sure)
[16:47] <EriC^^> Wixy: try with \\n
[16:47] <sm00th>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/apparmor/+bug/1577051  I have this bug too.  anyone know how to apply the hotfix?
[16:47] <sm00th> I'll go spam the forums...
[16:47] <Guy1524> nacc: ok thanks
[16:47] <tusharm> yes something about ufw block
[16:47] <tusharm> please stay and help me out
[16:47] <sm00th> tusharm:  post the line
[16:48] <sm00th> post that entry from dmesg so we can read it
[16:48] <tusharm> u sure? it contains my mac add
[16:48] <sm00th> delete those parts i guess lol
[16:48] <sm00th> i just posted my ip on here by accident so i understand lmao
[16:48] <sm00th> nacc is prolly going to hack me now :)
[16:49] <tusharm> 89276.820467] [UFW BLOCK] IN=wlan0 OUT= MAC=xxx SRC=xxx DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=338 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=56 ID=65129 PROTO=TCP SPT=443 DPT=39411 WINDOW=350 RES=0x00 ACK PSH URGP=0
[16:49] <Guest31638> Hey can't connect to #bash from hexchat. Please help
[16:49] <sm00th> ok you have to allow port 39411
[16:49] <sm00th> tusharm:  its trying to conect to 39411 instead of 3000
[16:50] <sm00th> that is another ip on your lan?
[16:50] <sm00th> is that what you trying to connect to?
[16:50] <tusharm> nope i want to forward localhost:3000 to my externalip:3000
[16:50] <tusharm> the other way round
[16:50] <sm00th> oh so I guess that entry is unrelated then
[16:51] <sm00th> dont' think I can help you there,  try asking nacc
[16:51] <tusharm> yeah, it doesn't progress as I make more requests
[16:51] <Guest31638> koi to batao ?
[16:51] <sm00th> localhost is 127.0.0.1 btw
[16:51] <tusharm> nacc: ping
[16:51] <tusharm> yeah i know
[16:51] <sm00th> but maybe ufw is not the issue not sure.
[16:51] <tusharm> cool, thanks for your help btw
[16:51] <sm00th> np
[16:52] <sm00th> you can see if ufw the issue by simply disabling it
[16:52] <nacc> tusharm: pong
[16:53] <tusharm> i want to forward my external ip:3000 to 127.0.0.1:3000
[16:54] <tusharm> i've added port forwarding in my router for tcp/3000 to my internal ip 3000
[16:54] <Wixy> nacc, EriC^^: same result, sed just won't do anything to the output
[16:54] <tusharm> and added ufw entry for tcp/3000 out to my internal ip
[16:54] <tusharm> getting an unreachable on my externalip:3000 on browser
[16:55] <Wixy> even replacing "unbuffer tail -f" with cat
[16:55] <monsterjamp> Hello I need help with nautilus, when I start it  up it crashes.
[16:56] <monsterjamp> I had to install an alternative file manager because of this.
[16:56] <nacc> Wixy: hrm, just did a quick test here and it worked fine :/
[16:57] <monsterjamp> This is the error I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18643744/
[16:57] <Wixy> cat stream | sed 's/<\/script><script>/\\n/'
[16:57] <Wixy> nacc, like this?
[16:57] <nacc> Wixy: well, i was catting a text file i wrote to test, and used a different tag, but yeah :)
[16:57] <Guest31638> Hey can't connect to #bash from hexchat. Please help
[16:58] <sm00th> nacc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2329968&p=13514230#post13514230
[16:58] <Wixy> weird, it doesn't do anything here
[16:58] <Wixy> the output is the same for cat stream without sed
[16:58] <sm00th> haha holy wall of text.
[16:58] <nacc> Wixy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18643818/
[16:58] <sm00th> let me fix that
[16:59] <nacc> monsterjamp: what version of ubuntu?
[16:59] <monsterjamp> nacc: 16.04
[17:00] <nacc> monsterjamp: using any PPAs or anything? nautilus runs fine here :/
[17:01] <Wixy> I see the problem, I was missing the global modifier
[17:01] <Wixy> since the text was all in one line, sed was replacing only the first pairs of tags :)
[17:01] <monsterjamp> nacc: I think there may be one PPA (budgie-remix) that might affect nautilus but nautilus just randomly bugged out and doesn't start anymore.
[17:02] <sm00th> how do i see what version of package i have in ubuntu?
[17:02] <sm00th> found it dpkg -s
[17:02] <Wixy> well, that's a problem because now unbuffer doesn't work -.-
[17:02] <Wixy> I guess it waits for a \n to flush the line
[17:02] <Wixy> but all the file is in one line (no \n at all)
[17:03] <hilbilly> I just bought a pair of bluetooth earbuds.  I can get them to pair to my 16.04 box, but I can not see them in my pulse volume control or find a way to have them work for my audio output.
[17:05] <monsterjamp> I want to remove and reinstall nautilus but then I have to remove things like unity :(
[17:06] <sm00th> nacc: oops I added that to the wrong bug report.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/apparmor/+bug/1582374
[17:06] <nacc> sm00th: why do you keep addressing me?
[17:06] <nacc> Wixy: :)
[17:06] <sm00th> nacc:  I updated my forum thread.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2329968&p=13514230#post13514230
[17:06] <Wixy> nacc, doesn't work, don't smile :(
[17:07] <Wixy> :P
[17:07] <inerkick> Hi. I got an ISO file of Ubuntu 14.10. But I dont know is it 32bit or 64bit. How to check which iso it is. Kindly help
[17:07] <nacc> Wixy: it would help if you provided exactly the input you're trying to sed, i guess (paste)
[17:07] <nacc> Wixy: *(pastebin)
[17:07] <nacc> inerkick: uh, 14.10 is EOL, don't install that.
[17:08] <Wixy> yeah, I thought it wasn't important. it's a stream like      <script>foo1</script><script>foo2</script><script>foo3</script>
[17:08] <Wixy> that goes forever and ever
[17:08] <inerkick> I know. But I got 32bit installed already. I want to replace this with in case if this iso is 64bit and than upgrade, nacc
[17:08] <nacc> monsterjamp: yes, nautilus is rather core, you can reinstall without removing it, iirc (`apt-get reinstall nautilus` ?)
[17:08] <Wixy> now the sed part is fine, but it's not receiving the test from unbuffer tail
[17:09] <nacc> inerkick: what? i don't understand what you just said
[17:09] <nacc> inerkick: "with in case"
[17:09] <monsterjamp> nacc: Well I've tried that. I was thinking maybe I need to purge it would that not help?
[17:10] <nacc> monsterjamp: purging nautils probably will make your system unusable :/
[17:11] <inerkick> I mean I got Ubuntu 14.04 , 32bit Kernel installed in my laptop right now. I want to install x64 . More than downloading new , I thought to find out if the iso I got is 64bit,so that I can install it and than upgrade to 16.10 version.
[17:12] <nacc> inerkick: you said 14.10 earlier, that was a typo?
[17:12] <monsterjamp> nacc: Well then I'm not sure what to do :( Nautilus randomly bugged out and now it refuses to start up.
[17:12] <nacc> inerkick: you can't upgrade from 14.04 to 16.10
[17:13] <inerkick> I got two iso's 14.04, 14.10. I installed 14.04 which is 32 bit. I can't remember which kernel is the another iso I got.
[17:14] <nacc> inerkick: just d/l whatever version ISO you want ... did you mean 16.04 earlier?
[17:14] <nacc> inerkick: just get 16.04 64-bit and install that?
[17:15] <inerkick> I just want to know which bit is the iso I have, nacc .
[17:15] <aditi_gupta> I'm receiving this error "BusyBox v1.22.1 built-in shell (ash)
[17:15] <sm00th> nacc: ubuntu installer crashes when trying to encrypt single partition = big brother.
[17:16] <aditi_gupta> (initramfs) promt
[17:16] <aditi_gupta> please help
[17:16] <inerkick> If you got any Ubuntu ISO Image and you don't know which bit it is. How to find out is the question.
[17:16] <nacc> inerkick: did you rename the ISO? what's the current name of it?
[17:16] <sm00th> nacc: also ecryptfs has error messages in dmesg when encrypting home partition on latest kernels on my machine.  I have posted bug report a while ago.
[17:16] <nacc> sm00th: please stop addressing me with every problem you have.
[17:17] <inerkick> it just got name as Ubuntu14.10.iso And I don't know which bit it is.
[17:17] <aditi_gupta> Please help.
[17:17] <sm00th> nacc: so now I am being good vulnerable citizen with no encryption.  since I am forced to be that way by ubuntu design.
[17:17] <nacc> aditi_gupta: this is happening during installation of ubuntu?
[17:17] <sm00th> nacc:  unless doing full disk encryption which still work.
[17:17] <aditi_gupta> nacc: n
[17:18] <nacc> inerkick: i guess you could loopback mount the iso and see what's on it; i'm not sure there is a trivial way otherwise
[17:18] <aditi_gupta> nacc: no
[17:18] <nacc> aditi_gupta: this is with ubuntu? what version? what changed that you now are being dropped to the initramfs shell?
[17:18] <aditi_gupta> nacc: Kubuntu worked fine all the time... 16.04
[17:18] <aditi_gupta> nacc: I updated BIOS
[17:18] <inerkick> ok thanks nacc
[17:19] <aditi_gupta> Please help to fix this
[17:19] <nacc> aditi_gupta: well, if the only thing that changed was updating the BIOS ... then it's probably the BIOS update that broke things?
[17:19] <nacc> aditi_gupta: why did you update your BIOS?
[17:20] <aditi_gupta> nacc: I was facing some issues with the laptop from some days.
[17:20] <cgrs> aditi_gupta: you have secure boot enabled maybe?
[17:20] <aditi_gupta> nacc: And, I didn't do it.. the engineer did... said it would work
[17:20] <aditi_gupta> cgrs: How to disable?
[17:21] <cgrs> aditi_gupta: on BIOS settings
[17:21] <cgrs> there are many different ways for different BIOS
[17:21] <CarlFK> sudo service isc-dhcp-server status ...  Can't open /etc/bind/rndc.key: Permission denied ...  -rw-rw---- 1 bind bind 77 Jul  4 03:25 /etc/bind/rndc.key ... groups... dhcpd : dhcpd bind ...
[17:21] <CarlFK>  dmesg ... audit: type=1400 audit(1467823970.769:50): apparmor="DENIED" operation="capable" profile="/usr/sbin/dhcpd" pid=4492 comm="dhcpd" capability=1  capname="dac_override"
[17:21] <cgrs> aditi_gupta: but it can't be the error, it was just a suposition
[17:22] <CarlFK> I would like to fix this properly, but happy to just hit it with a hammer to make it work for now
[17:22] <sm00th> use sledgehammer
[17:22] <CarlFK> lol
[17:22] <nacc> CarlFK: please use a pastebin, it's hard to read that output
[17:22] <cgrs> anyone faced issues with the `gnome-font-viewer`?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> cgrs  what brings you here
[17:24] <cgrs> MonkeyDust: i asked few minutes ago, but i'll repeat it ;D
[17:24] <cgrs> i recently installed ubuntu 16.04 64bit, and when i tried to install a font, the font viewer tries to launch, but it doesn't. when i start it from the  terminal, it shows up, with the font i want to install correctly: anyone could help me?
[17:24] <cgrs> MonkeyDust: basically, gnome-font-viewer works on terminal, but not on desktop.
[17:24] <cgrs> I tried to reinstall the packagr
[17:25] <cgrs> purge it
[17:25] <cgrs> and all that
[17:25] <CarlFK> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18645231/
[17:25] <will__> usb wifi adpater suddenly stopped working. getiing error during startup "failed to load kernel module" . Ubuntu 16.04
[17:26] <cgrs> will__: which model of wifi adapter?
[17:26] <nacc> CarlFK: can dhcpd user read /etc/bind ?
[17:26] <will__> cgrs: RTL8188EUS
[17:27] <whlai> very strange issue. I am unable to enter my own user's /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys
[17:27] <CarlFK> nacc: um.. how do I check that?
[17:27] <whlai> directory is set to 600
[17:27] <whlai> and owner and group are both the username
[17:27] <whlai> any ideas?
[17:27] <cgrs> will__: it worked before the error?
[17:27] <CarlFK> whlai: "enter" ?
[17:27] <whlai> CarlFK: cd
[17:28] <nacc> CarlFK: ls -l /etc/bind and check the permissions?
[17:28] <whlai> permssions 600
[17:28] <whlai> owner and group are user:user
[17:28] <CarlFK> whlai: it is a file
[17:28] <will__> cgrs: yeah it was working smoothly
[17:28] <whlai> directory
[17:28] <whlai> a diirectory I created
[17:28] <whlai> but cannot cd to when 600
[17:28] <will__> cgrs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18645399/ systemctl output
[17:28] <tuxiano> Hi, I have issues to get gpu passthrough working on a ubuntu 16.04 + intel + nvidia system. I try to run this script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18644889/ and this is my configuration and other relevant outputs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18645325/
[17:29] <CarlFK> whlai: you need exe perms
[17:29] <whlai> the dir needs a +x?
[17:29] <will__> cgrs: lsusb is showing that it is there but does not show in wifi manager .
[17:29] <CarlFK> whlai: not a, just u
[17:29] <will__> cgrs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18645490/ lsusb output
[17:30] <whlai> CarlFK are you saying that the directory (authorized keys) needs +x?
[17:30] <cgrs> will__: my last issues with wifi adapters was years ago, i fear i couldn't help you
[17:30] <cgrs> will__: i'm really sorry
[17:30] <CarlFK> nacc:  ls -ld /etc/bind; drwxr-sr-x 2 root bind 4096 Jul  4 03:25 /etc/bind
[17:30] <whlai> do the keys need +x as well?
[17:31] <cgrs> will__: maybe you can look on additional drivers section on settings, on the software and updates section
[17:31] <will__> cgrs: never mind
[17:31] <CarlFK> whlai: well.. if you want to cd into a dir, yes.  what you are doing with ssh keys makes me nervous ;)
[17:31] <whlai> lol
[17:31] <whlai> replacing the need to use passwords for ssh
[17:31] <will__> cgrs: yeah tried that but nothing worked . this is frustrating was working fine and suddenly boom this error appears from no where
[17:31] <CarlFK> um... you don't need to replace a file with a dir to do that
[17:32] <cgrs> will__: any update recently?
[17:32] <will__> cgrs: yeah updated the system . bugs with 16.04 ??
[17:32] <cgrs> will__: perhaps...
[17:32] <nacc> whlai: i think you misunderstood how authorized_keys works
[17:33] <cgrs> will__: check this out, maybe it can help https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu
[17:33] <nacc> whlai: are you sure it can even be a directory?
[17:33] <will__> cgrs: thanks , but i already tried that
[17:33] <whlai> nacc, I understand that I need to put my pub keys into the authorized_keys directory of machines I want to SSH into
[17:33] <nacc> whlai: no
[17:34] <will__> cgrs: only solution is to again build my system
[17:34] <will__> :(
[17:34] <nacc> whlai: you put your keys into an authorized_keys *file*
[17:34] <CarlFK> whlai: lol  ... once you have un broken your box, look at these two commands: ssh-copy-id ssh-import-id
[17:34] <nacc> CarlFK: hrm, why is the directory g+s ?
[17:34] <whlai> Thanks CarlFK
[17:35] <whlai> ahhh, I see
[17:35] <cgrs> will__: i think the problem here is the kernel... maybe there aren't drivers yet for the wifi adapter on 4.x kernels?
[17:35] <cgrs> *that
[17:35] <whlai> i derped hard
[17:35] <will__> cgrs: may be but it was working fine will try downgrading
[17:36] <will__> cgrs: can you tell me which is the least version of kernel supported by 16.04
[17:36] <nacc> tuxiano: you may want to ask in ubuntu-server
[17:36] <tortue_> hi
[17:36] <cgrs> will__: try another kernel (3.x or 2.x), to see if that works
[17:36] <nacc> cgrs: uhhh, never suggest somoene tries 2.x
[17:36] <tortue_> i think that too much things have been change on ubuntu 16.04 lts
[17:37] <cgrs> nacc: i was going to tell him that
[17:37] <tuxiano> nacc: thank you, I'll try
[17:37] <will__>  yeah tried installing 3.19.3 but it is not supported by 16.04 i guess got a lot of errors
[17:37] <CarlFK> nacc: that's what apt install did.    here is the script that was run on a fresh 16.10 install  (relevant bits selected)  https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/blob/master/setup/nodes/pxe/install.sh#L29-L71
[17:37] <kukku> unmet dependencies:
[17:37] <kukku> libpcap0.8 : Breaks: libpcap0.8:i386 (!= 1.7.4-2) but 1.4.0-2 is installed
[17:37] <kukku>  libpcap0.8:i386 : Breaks: libpcap0.8 (!= 1.4.0-2) but 1.7.4-2 is installed  // -f is not working
[17:37] <kukku>  any help??
[17:37] <nacc> will__: did you paste the ouptut youa reseeing?
[17:37] <nacc> will__: specifically, did you upgrade to 16.04 recently?
[17:37] <nacc> will__: if so, from what
[17:37] <nacc> CarlFK: 16.10 ?
[17:38] <will__> nacc: it has a been a month since i upgraded and output of what can you please tell me that
[17:38] <tatertots> there are three supported LTS versions of ubuntu...........heck i have 12.04 on one of my boxes to keep my software environment happy
[17:38] <will__> i upgraded using bootable usb
[17:38] <nacc> will__: upgraded from what?
[17:38] <CarlFK> nacc: er... 16.04 .. derp :p
[17:38] <nacc> CarlFK: ok, just checking :)
[17:38] <tatertots> newer isn't always better........
[17:38] <tatertots> ymmv
[17:39] <will__> nacc: yeah from 15.10
[17:39] <nacc> kukku: `apt-cache policy libcap0.8` in a pastebin, please
[17:39] <tortue_> I upgraded from a 14.04.4 lts version
[17:39] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | tortue_
[17:39] <nacc> tortue_: how did you upgrade?
[17:40] <tortue_> I upgraded my 14.04 version several times until I received the 16.04 lts upgrade proposal
[17:41] <nacc> tortue_: ... you mean you went 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10 -> 16.04 ?
[17:41] <tortue_> nope
[17:41] <ioria> just 15.10
[17:41] <tortue_> 14.04.3 and 14.04.4
[17:42] <nacc> tortue_: you wouldn't have been offered 16.04 by any tooling yet, if you were on 14.04.
[17:42] <k1l> tortue_: so you did the developer upgrade with -d
[17:42] <nacc> tortue_: did you pass -d to a tool?
[17:42] <tortue_> but i am ok with my distribution
[17:42] <tortue_> my problem is that too much package have been change
[17:43] <nacc> CarlFK: still thinking about what might be happening; if you turn off apparmor, does dhcp start?
[17:43] <nacc> tortue_: so you installed a release that's from about a month ago, and it's *too* new?
[17:43] <k1l> tortue_: well, that is what happens if you change the base release.
[17:43] <tortue_> by example it took me 4 weeks to understand that xchat is now hexchat
[17:43] <k1l> tortue_: you could have stayed longer on 14.04. 3 more years to be precise
[17:44] <nacc> tortue_: do you have an actual issue you need help with?
[17:45] <tortue_> yes
[17:45] <tortue_> but with eclipse
[17:45] <CarlFK> nacc: yes.. well, sudo service apparmor stop; aa-complain dhcpd (because http://paste.ubuntu.com/18646340/
[17:45] <nacc> CarlFK: trying to narrow down if it's apparmor denial or something else that's preventing dhcp from starting
[17:45] <tortue_> i can't use eclipse on ubuntu 16.04
[17:45] <nacc> CarlFK: ok, and it starts then?
[17:46] <CarlFK> nacc: yes
[17:46] <nacc> CarlFK: hrm ...
[17:46] <tortue_> i need it for android application programming
[17:46] <k1l> tortue_: what is the issue?
[17:47] <kukku> nacc, - http://pastebin.com/4ZDvTqHU   sorry for that .
[17:49] <sm00th> I think I figured it out
[17:49] <nacc> kukku: please pastebin the output of `apt-get update; apt-get -f install` and then `apt-cache policy libpcap0.8:i386`
[17:50] <mgor> anyone know why systemd-udev would go and change a interface to "rename<x>"? I have set net.ifnames=0 as a boot argument
[17:51] <nacc> CarlFK: heh
[17:52] <nacc> CarlFK: nm, i thought i saw a typo in the system apparmor profile, was wrong
[17:52] <CarlFK> nacc: man aa-complain ... SEE ALSO aa_change_hat ... No manual entry for aa_change_hat   what does that do?
[17:52] <CarlFK>  
[17:53] <nacc> CarlFK: maybe try adding: '/etc/bind r,' to your file?
[17:53] <CarlFK> aa_change_hat: command not found  ... awesome.
[17:53] <CarlFK>  
[17:53] <nacc> CarlFK: hrm, ihave a manpage for it
[17:53] <nacc> CarlFK: it's an API
[17:53] <CarlFK> nacc: what packaged did it come from?
[17:54] <nacc> CarlFK: libapparmor-dev
[17:54] <kukku> nacc --   http://pastebin.com/DusPkqAF
[17:55] <CarlFK> nacc: first I need to get back to the 'bad state' ... to undo -complain, I want this right?   aa-enforce dhcpd
[17:55] <nacc> kukku: is ftp.cuhk.edu.hk a mirror? why do you have that and the primary mirror at the same time?
[17:55] <nacc> CarlFK: i think that's right, but i'm not an AA master :)
[17:56] <nacc> kukku: where did you get "libcap0.8:i386" v. 1.4.0-2 ?
[17:56] <nacc> kukku: it's not a published version in any ubuntu right now
[17:57] <mario_> Hi all!!!
[17:57] <kukku> nacc, -- selected the best server  - that came  , changing back now  ....   from a forum link .,(actually wash wasn't working-- that led to this )  ,,
[17:58] <nacc> kukku: you got a pacakge from a forum link?
[17:58] <nacc> kukku: i'm guessing you should remove 'libpcap0.8:i386' first, see if that works, then run '-f install'
[17:59] <CarlFK> nacc: /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.dhcpd  added /etc/bind r,  -- turned everything back on, still broke.   Can't open /etc/bind/rndc.key: Permission denied
[18:00] <CarlFK> nacc: I think I'll just put dhcpd back into complain mode and forget about it for now
[18:00] <kukku> nacc,  --   apt-get -f install   not working
[18:01] <nacc> CarlFK: sorry i couldn't help more, there *might* be a more apparmore specific channel (i'd check with !alis)
[18:01] <nacc> kukku: you removed libpcap0.8:i386 first?
[18:02] <k1l> Agent: would you mind not spam this channel with nickchanges? thanks
[18:02] <kukku> nacc, -- don't know how to do that exactly    ,, apt-get remove   not useful  :(
[18:04] <nacc> kukku: can you pastebin the output of `apt-get remove libpcap0.8:i386` ?
[18:05] <enoch85> hey guys, anyone that knows how I restore from this backup? http://pastebin.com/LzMFA5Bt
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> enoch85  rsync is similar to cp, i use it too ... use rsync to 'cp' files back to the source
[18:08] <kukku> nacc,   --- thanks that worked ,,, i tried that 8-9 times but with libcap instead of libpcap ;) , things back to normal
[18:08] <nacc> kukku: ok.
[18:10] <enoch85> MonkeyDust: yeah, the problem is that it doesn't work. I accedently removed files from one of my servers, and now when I want to syncit back ($DESTINATION > $SOURCE ) it doesn't sync any files at all
[18:12] <enoch85> it should sync back the deleted files but it doesn't sync anything
[18:13] <enoch85> I use this script: http://pastebin.com/CCjG0w5u
[18:13] <enoch85> MonkeyDust: --^ thanks for helping
[18:16] <tan__> Hello all, I have a problem of plenty of missing icons on KStars GUI, running on a fresh install of Xubuntu 16.04. Toolbars had absolutely no icons. I solved half of the problem by installing package oxygen-icon-theme, but I am still missing all the very basic icons (zoom in, search, etc.). If anyone has an idea that would be great.
[18:17] <tortue_> carlFK: i think you must be root to write in that file
[18:20] <CarlFK> tortue_: um.. what file ?
[18:21] <enoch85> nvm, it was an error in the script
[18:21] <enoch85> solved it now
[18:24] <mist_> akik: this is an intel nuc
[18:26] <nicomachus> so when I open a program from terminal, how can I close terminal without also killing the processes that it started?
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> enoch85  what was the error
[18:27] <tgm4883> nicomachus: use nohup? http://linux.101hacks.com/unix/nohup-command/
[18:28] <nicomachus> reading
[18:30] <lapion> does anyone test installation of ubuntu on syste ms with 2 harddisks ?
[18:30] <nicomachus> that may work. to explain more: every morning when I start work, I open my browser to the same 4 tabs, open the same 2 spreadsheets, and the same 2 other programs. So I just created an alias that does all that so that I can just open a terminal, type "startwork", and have it open everything. but I want to be able to close that terminal once everything is opened.
[18:30] <tgm4883> lapion: why? that doesn't sound like a support quesion, but I've done it in the past
[18:31] <tgm4883> nicomachus: so put an exit command at the end of your script?
[18:31] <nicomachus> tgm4883: but wouldn't that kill all the processes?
[18:31] <tgm4883> hmm
[18:32] <levtim> Does anyone use midori (light web browser) or know of any alternatives for a slow CPU machine?
[18:32] <tgm4883> nicomachus: follow each command with & perhaps?
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> levtim  cli based web browsers
[18:32] <nicomachus> tgm4883: I'm using && at the moment.
[18:33] <tgm4883> nicomachus: such as "firefox &" then closing the terminal leaves it open
[18:33] <Bashing-om> levtim: Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware.
[18:33] <levtim> MonkeyDust: I've tried elinks and some other one, but can't figure out how to get images
[18:33] <nicomachus> levtim: well, CLI based browsers don't do images.
[18:34] <levtim> I've been really happy with the speed of midori, but it closes down without warning or explanation
[18:35] <nicomachus> tgm4883: nevermind, 'exit' does work without closing anything.
[18:35] <CosmicSound> Good day
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> levtim  http://www.kompx.com/en/lightweight-web-browsers-for-linux.htm
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> !info dillo
[18:36] <nicomachus> now if I could just figure out how to get the tabs to open in the right order... haha
[18:37] <CosmicSound> I have some issue setting up networking in 15.04
[18:37] <CosmicSound> Here is my current config, I am using bridge networking: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18649336/
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> CosmicSound  if that's no typo* : 15.04 is long dead
[18:37] <nicomachus> hmmm... is 15.04 EOL yet?
[18:37] <Bashing-om> !15.04 | CosmicSound
[18:38] <Neffi> I'm looking to image an install of Ubuntu 16.04 to deploy on many like machines. Can anyone recommend some software for this besides Clonezilla?
[18:38] <levtim> MonkeyDust: Thanks, netsurf looks interesting
[18:39] <abolfazl123> hi.I was wroking with uck.and I get problem(http://paste.ubuntu.com/18649489/).I search a lot in google but I don't find any right thing.
[18:39] <abolfazl123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18649489
[18:41] <CosmicSound> Good I installed 16.04
[18:43] <abolfazl123> I was wroking with uck.and I get problem(http://paste.ubuntu.com/18649489/) I search a lot in google but I don't find any right thing.
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> abolfazl123  what's uck
[18:46] <abolfazl123> MonkeyDust:a tools for make a Customize ubuntu(Ubuntu Customization Kit)
[18:47] <abolfazl123> MonkeyDust:I think the problem isn't for the tool.I think it's for other packges
[18:47] <paranoidabhi> hi
[18:47] <Guest31638> hi
[18:47] <abolfazl123> اه
[18:47] <abolfazl123> hi
[18:47] <paranoidabhi> I came across this interesting article to speed boot http://www.howtogeek.com/69753/how-to-cut-your-linux-pcs-boot-time-in-half-with-e4rat/
[18:47] <Guest31638> hi
[18:47] <paranoidabhi> does this still work?
[18:48] <paranoidabhi> it is from 2012
[18:49] <nicomachus> paranoidabhi: doesn't look like the software mentioned has been updated at all recently. I would say no.
[18:50] <Guest31638> how does that works ?
[18:50] <paranoidabhi> nicomachus, is there an alternative to do the same job.
[18:50] <Guest31638> to cut the time ?
[18:51] <paranoidabhi> yes
[18:51] <abolfazl123> I was wroking with uck.and I get problem(http://paste.ubuntu.com/18649489/) I search a lot in google but I don't find any right thing.
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> paranoidabhi  in 16.04, use this to see what's slowing it down ... systemd-analyze blame
[18:52] <Guest31638> I think it works like fastboot in Windows ?
[18:52] <Guest31638> I was planning on some project as such but that is for restoration !
[18:55] <paranoidabhi> MonkeyDust, please have a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/795169/kde-slow-boot-on-kubuntu-16-04
[18:56] <abolfazl123> no idea for this  problem?( http://paste.ubuntu.com/18649489/ )
[18:56] <CosmicSound> What is the best and smallest desktop manager window manager for ubuntu?
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> CosmicSound  i guess Awesome
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> or openbox
[18:58] <guntbert> abolfazl12: Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience.
[18:59] <abolfazl123> guntbert:it's the smallest "** (zenity:10217): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-ZDXVQ6RfwT: Connection refused Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. Build ended at 2016-07-06 23:05:03"
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> abolfazl123  what are you trying to do or achieve
[19:00] <abolfazl123> I am trying to make a costumaize linux with uck
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> abolfazl123  this is the support channel, not the 'how do i make a distro' channel
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu support*
[19:01] <abolfazl123> Monkey:ok.where I should go?
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> abolfazl123  try in ##linux
[19:01] <abolfazl123> ok
[19:02] <abolfazl123> thanks
[19:06] <enoch85> MonkeyDust: wrong directory
[19:06] <enoch85> path
[19:07] <star_prone> hi
[19:10] <Guest31638> hi
[19:10] <Guest31638> hi hi
[19:11] <Guest31638> hi hi hi
[19:20] <LtL> quit
[19:20] <justJanne> test
[19:20] <Guest31638> exit
[19:23] <paranoidabhi> folks any ideas on this  http://askubuntu.com/questions/795169/kde-slow-boot-on-kubuntu-16-04?
[19:29] <justJanne> test
[19:29] <justJanne> Testing again (sorry)
[19:30] <Bashing-om> paranoidabhi: Slow boot tutorial: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/systemd-blame.html .
[19:31] <k1l> justJanne: #test might want to see some testing :)
[19:32] <justJanne> k1l: I needed a channel with > 1500 users for that
[19:33] <superbeastdj> hello
[19:33] <justJanne> usually I use during the eurovision on quakenet #eurovision for that, it’s ~8000 users
[19:33] <justJanne> but I’m already gone again :)
[19:33] <superbeastdj> I've got a host of problems but only a small one related to ubuntu atm.. can someone give me a second
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> paranoidabhi  you can use this, be careful, tho ... sudo sysv-rc-conf
[19:34] <Netek> if I am making Ubuntu USB Drive why one 1 laptop it loads and on another laptop it give me basic bash when it boot for install?  Maybe UEFI is making this problem? -_-
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> paranoidabhi  http://askubuntu.com/questions/698993/disable-services-on-startup-in-ubuntu
[19:35] <superbeastdj> I had a dual boot setup, but I just reinstalled windows and now my boot selection menu is gone and I cant get into ubuntu.
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> !repairgrub | superbeastdj
[19:35] <JamesLove> how to do fsck on mounted / filesystem? have to reboot into safe mode?
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> !grubrepair | superbeastdj
[19:37] <ioria> JamesLove, iirc sudo touch /forcefsck   and reboot
[19:37] <JamesLove> ah good one
[19:37] <JamesLove> thanks
[19:37] <ioria> np
[19:38] <Bashing-om> JamesLove: 16.04 (systemd ) is a different command to run a file system check .
[19:39] <ioria> Bashing-om, really ?
[19:39] <superbeastdj> ty monkeydust I will try that
[19:39] <pili> mesh
[19:41] <Bashing-om> ioria: Yeah .. for systemd : You can also force fsck at boot time by passing fsck.mode=force, as a kernel parameter. This will check every filesystem you have on the machine.
[19:41] <ioria> Bashing-om, thanks
[19:42] <Bashing-om> ioria: My reference: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-fsck@.service.html .
[19:43] <ioria> Bashing-om,  yeah https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/fsck#Forcing_the_check
[19:45] <ioria>  so not working anymore sudo touch /forcefsck
[19:55] <ubuntu__> htt
[20:02] <sawdog> Hi folks, is the appropriate place to ask questions re: Ubuntu Core?
[20:02] <kd_> hi
[20:04] <Bashing-om> sawdog: One can ask here, maybe get a re-direct ?
[20:04] <sawdog> Bashing-om: thanks.  I’m getting my head wrapped around Core - and snappy in particular.
[20:07] <sawdog> so I’m running on a Gigabyte IOT gateway box, have Core installed on a USB stick and am trying to get it installed on the internal MMC. I installed curl via snappy so I can grab the image and download it so that I can dd the image to the internal MMC; but using curl to redirect the output to a file, I get a permission denied. I’m assuming this is because curl doesn’t have the appropriate access granted to write to my disk?
[20:07] <sawdog> I did do a snappy hw-assign curl.tetor /dev/sda5
[20:08] <sawdog> which granted access to the device, but same behavior; —> 0Warning: Failed to create the file ubuntu-core-15.04-intel-nuc.img.xz: Warning: Permission denied curl: (23) Failed writing body (0 != 9922)
[20:08] <sawdog> any potential clues; not finding a lot googling this so far
[20:10] <nacc> sawdog: you might try #snappy
[20:10] <nacc> sawdog: per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[20:11] <sawdog> @nacc: thanks!
[20:11] <nacc> sawdog: np
[20:21] <jstarcher> hey
[20:22] <jstarcher> I've got a situation where my client's VPN will only run on OSX and Windows (some stupid java applet) and I need my ubuntu server to be able to hit things over the VPN
[20:22] <SchrodingersScat> that does sound terrible
[20:22] <jstarcher> I can run the VPN on my macbook, but how can my ubuntu machine route traffic through the vpn on the mac
[20:26] <jstarcher> seems possible with route add but I'm not sure what exactly I need to do
[20:27] <Skaag> how do I find out which package is preventing an upgrade from trusty to wily?
[20:29] <diskin> Skaag, how do you run the upgrade?
[20:29] <k1l> Skaag: from 14.04 to 15.10?
[20:31] <nacc> Skaag: you should not upgrade from trusty to wily
[20:32] <ejuan>  do-release-upgrade -d
[20:32] <k1l> ejuan: stop
[20:32] <maddawg2> gah the new ubuntu sucks
[20:32] <ejuan> should upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04
[20:32] <nacc> ejuan: that is bad advice to give, please don't do that.
[20:32] <maddawg2> no more interfaces directory?
[20:32] <maddawg2> wtf
[20:33] <ejuan> why
[20:33] <nacc> ejuan: do you know what the '-d' flag means?
[20:33] <maddawg2> and whats up with the new naming scheme for the nics
[20:33] <JohnDoe1972> hey guys how do i resolve the login loop problem ?
[20:33] <maddawg2> such BS
[20:33] <k1l> ejuan: that is not what he asked and you are telling people to do the developer upgrade while not telling them what that is
[20:33] <k1l> !language | maddawg2
[20:33] <nacc> maddawg2: i have a /etc/network/interfaces directory (well, /etc/network/interfaces.d, which is what I assume you meant)
[20:33] <SnoopyDgg> Guys, how do I tar folder1 in /var/www/ and put it into folder1.tar.gz in /home/user/ ?
[20:33] <ejuan> well  do-release-upgrade  wont upgrade from 14.04 it just says nothing aviable or what ever
[20:33] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | ejuan
[20:34] <k1l> ejuan: and that has a reason
[20:34] <maddawg2> nacc in 16.04?
[20:34] <maddawg2> i dont
[20:34] <nacc> SnoopyDgg: `tar zcf /home/user/folder1.tar.gz /var/www/folder1`
[20:34] <nacc> maddawg2: yes
[20:34] <JohnDoe1972> hey guys how do i resolve the login loop problem ?
[20:34] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: try the guest account if that works
[20:34] <nacc> maddawg2: as to your second question, https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[20:35] <JohnDoe1972> it does
[20:35] <maddawg2> i have a interfaces.d
[20:35] <maddawg2> but says /etc/network/interfaces is not a directory
[20:35] <JohnDoe1972> k1l, it does
[20:35] <nacc> maddawg2: because it's not?
[20:35] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: then login on tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1) and look with "ls -al" what is owned by root.
[20:35] <nacc> maddawg2: /etc/network/interfaces has always been a file
[20:35] <maddawg2> err thats  what i mean sorry
[20:36] <JohnDoe1972> k1l, 0_0 err umm ok
[20:36] <JohnDoe1972> what do i do and what am i looking for ?
[20:36] <SnoopyDgg> nacc, but once I untar folder1 I'll have my files in /home/user/var/www/folder/. so with that command I'll put folders inside tar. and I want only 1 folder and it's subfolder to go into tar and avoid creating /var/www/
[20:36] <maddawg2> i tried to do a pico /etc/network/interfaces and it says that /etc/network isn't a directory
[20:36] <maddawg2> but i think i see my error
[20:36] <k1l> maddawg2: use tab completion
[20:37] <diskin> nacc, thanks, I did not know that automatic upgrade is only to 16.04.1.. was it the same for all previous LTS?
[20:37] <maddawg2> i have the wrong keyboard layout selected
[20:37] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: especially the .Xauthority file. if that is owned by root that is the reason why its not logging in
[20:37] <maddawg2> and it's replacing the n in network with some random ^ character
[20:37] <nacc> SnoopyDgg: `tar -z -c -C /var/www/ -f /home/user/folder1.tar.gz folder1`
[20:38] <JohnDoe1972> k1l, how do i tell what is owned ?
[20:38] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: "ls -al" will list it
[20:38] <nacc> diskin: i think LTS -> LTS has been that way since 12.04 (haven't been that many LTS :)
[20:38] <JohnDoe1972> k1 i dont understand. is everything on the list owned ?
[20:38] <maddawg2> i had no issues with the previous way that network interfaces were named
[20:39] <JohnDoe1972> k1l,  i dont understand. is everything on the list owned ?
[20:39] <nacc> maddawg2: that's nice?
[20:39] <maddawg2> this predictable naming is BS and is stupid
[20:39] <nacc> maddawg2: no, it's really not.
[20:39] <maddawg2> yes it really is
[20:39] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: just open a terminal now and make a "ls -al" and you will understand
[20:39] <JohnDoe1972> ok
[20:39] <JohnDoe1972> thx
[20:39] <maddawg2> now i have to go figure out how to change my scripts that i have
[20:39] <maddawg2> cuz they all expected eth as the interface name
[20:40] <maddawg2> also it randomly chose ens160 for my interface name
[20:40] <maddawg2> that's an odd prediction
[20:40] <tgm4883> nacc: maddawg2 whether it is or isn't, is irrelevant. It's changed. Now you can set it to use the old names if you want
[20:40] <maddawg2> it's the only NIC  i have
[20:40] <Netwolf> scripts shouldbe smarter with logic to help that
[20:40] <nacc> tgm4883: fair point :)
[20:41] <tgm4883> Netwolf: that is arguably true
[20:41] <nacc> and technically relying on the same eth* naming was wrong ... it could change w/o warning in the kernel (kernel's namespace), so if you only have one interface, your script should be looking at the interfaces defined in the running system to get the current name
[20:42] <tgm4883> nacc: meh, I refer to the method of KISS
[20:42] <ShadowAndrew> when i run wpa_supplicant i get this error: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid Argument
[20:43] <tgm4883> nacc: don't write 20 lines of code when 5 will do
[20:45] <nacc> tgm4883: true, if you don't really care, as you said, just turn off the feature
[20:45] <akik> maddawg2: you can change back to the previous naming system if you wish
[20:46] <maddawg2> thanks i am now
[20:46] <akik> maddawg2: net.ifnames=0 kernel parameter
[20:46] <maddawg2> cuz no way my firewall config file will work
[20:47] <maddawg2> it's all eth1 and eth0
[20:47] <ejuan> find/replace brah
[20:47] <akik> in my case the usb-ethernet adapter had its mac address in the interface name :P
[20:47] <maddawg2> sure but when you have 32 of them to upgrade it's a big pain in the butt
[20:48] <CacheMoney> what would be the easiest way to expand an ext4 partition to use the full size of the disk it resides on without losing data
[20:48] <maddawg2> i never had issues with nics being named wrong after a reboot as the nic name had always been assinged by device
[20:48] <CacheMoney> if thats even possible
[20:48] <maddawg2> so it seems like an odd change to make
[20:49] <k1l> CacheMoney: touching partitions is always a risk of failure. on hardware or software.
[20:49] <maddawg2> CacheMoney, gparted is easy
[20:49] <maddawg2> CacheMoney, but theres always a risk you'll mess something up
[20:49] <maddawg2> so i'd back it up first
[20:49] <ShadowAndrew> when i run wpa_supplicant i get this error: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid Argument
[20:50] <JohnDoe1972> k1l, i cant login on tty1. it askes me to kogin but it says login incorrect
[20:50] <maddawg2> especially if it's your boot partition
[20:50] <k1l> CacheMoney: but boot a live usb and use gparted. that wil work
[20:50] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: use your user and password.
[20:50] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: or is the disk full?
[20:50] <JohnDoe1972> disk is fresh
[20:51] <JohnDoe1972> i enter user and password but it fails
[20:51] <JohnDoe1972> i had forgotten my password so i reset it yesterday
[20:51] <maddawg2> oh he meant to enter it here
[20:51] <maddawg2> jk
[20:51] <JohnDoe1972> then i experianced this loop problem
[20:51] <JohnDoe1972> i now try to sortr the loop problem
[20:51] <maddawg2> what loop problem?
[20:52] <JohnDoe1972> cant login
[20:52] <renergy> CacheMoney: does the partition begin at the beginning of the disk, or somewhere in the middle?
[20:52] <k1l> !lostpassword | JohnDoe1972
[20:52] <JohnDoe1972> it keeps sending me back to the login screen
[20:52] <maddawg2> are you sure you are using the right password
[20:52] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: so i guess your recovering did something wrong on that user
[20:52] <JohnDoe1972> i reset ti yesterday !
[20:53] <maddawg2> are u sure you are using the password yoou reset it to?
[20:53] <JohnDoe1972> yea
[20:53] <tgm4883> if it's not telling you that you had an incorrect password, then the session is crashing
[20:53] <JohnDoe1972> yesterday one guy though it might be an encrypted home drive
[20:53] <renergy> CacheMoney: If it's at the beginning, gparted should do the job fine
[20:53] <JohnDoe1972> but he didnt tell me how to check this or how to fix it
[20:55] <tgm4883> JohnDoe1972: logging in via TTY1 would answer that pretty quickly I think
[20:55] <JohnDoe1972> tgm4883, i cant login via tty1
[20:55] <ShadowAndrew> when i run wpa_supplicant i get this error: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid Argument
[20:55] <ShadowAndrew> when i run wpa_supplicant i get this error: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid Argument
[20:55] <ShadowAndrew> when i run wpa_supplicant i get this error: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid Argument
[20:55] <ShadowAndrew> when i run wpa_supplicant i get this error: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid Argument
[20:55] <ShadowAndrew> when i run wpa_supplicant i get this error: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid Argument
[20:55] <ShadowAndrew> when i run wpa_supplicant i get this error: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid Argument
[20:55] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: use that recovery way to set the password the correct way.
[20:55] <JohnDoe1972> k1l, the first link ?
[20:56] <tgm4883> JohnDoe1972: is it telling you of an invalid password?
[20:56] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: yes
[20:56] <JohnDoe1972> tg it did yesterday but i reset it and it no longer gives password error on login screen but using tty1 it shows login incorreect error
[20:57] <tgm4883> JohnDoe1972: Try resetting it again and see if you can login
[20:58] <JohnDoe1972> ok
[21:02] <tortib> I have a USB3 hub that keeps resetting in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[21:03] <SnoopyDgg> guys, if I do 'sudo mv /home/user/folder1/* var/www/folder1/' I will not lose owner, group and permissions, right?
[21:03] <Ben64> right
[21:04] <tortib> SnoopyDgg, i told ya man, nope :p
[21:05] <melvin_> Heey peeps, anyone any knowledge on how to close a terminal after the livestreamer is used in the terminal or a bash script?
[21:05] <SnoopyDgg> tortib, sorry, though you were trolling :) (before you eloborated) Thanks again, bro!!!
[21:05] <tortib> why does everyone think i'm a dang troll?
[21:06] <melvin_> tortib: why not?
[21:06] <tortib> I get this error [ 6403.801821] usb 2-1.2.4.1: cannot submit urb (err = -19)
[21:06] <tortib> and my USB3 Hub resets all devices
[21:16] <anabain> after using jackd in 16.04, which is the safest/foolproof method to get pulseaudio back to work?
[21:17] <JohnDoe1972> k1l, ok i rest my password
[21:17] <JohnDoe1972> tgm4883, ive reset my password again
[21:17] <JohnDoe1972> still same problem
[21:18] <silver-dragon> Hey I have a question about memory. I have 4 gb installed with 2 sticks of 2 gb memory I am using the 64 bit version of ubuntu mate and my computer only says I have 3.2 gb What gives?
[21:19] <tgm4883> JohnDoe1972: what's the exact error you get when you try to login via TTY1
[21:19] <JohnDoe1972> moment
[21:19] <tgm4883> silver-dragon: what's the output of 'uname -a' and 'free -m'
[21:20] <bapun> "uname -a" prints all system information
[21:21] <silver-dragon> tgm4883: Linux divine-conspiracy 4.4.0-28-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 24 10:09:13 UTC
[21:21] <silver-dragon> tgm4883:               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
[21:21] <silver-dragon> Mem:           3259        1392          77          83        1789        1583
[21:21] <silver-dragon> Swap:          3323           0        3323
[21:21] <JohnDoe1972> tgm4883, ok it seemed to do something in tty1 this time . get a load of license guff then an error Signature not found in user keyring
[21:21] <bapun> "free -m" displays free memory in megabyte
[21:21] <tgm4883> bapun: not sure what your doing...
[21:23] <bapun> tgm4883: sorry my mistake , i thought you are asking , what these commands does
[21:24] <silver-dragon> system monitor screenshot https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/1/view/n8g1dtxrgseo6tq/Apps/Shutter/Selection_025.png
[21:24] <JohnDoe1972> tgm4883, ?
[21:24] <JohnDoe1972> k1l, ?
[21:26] <photos> good day
[21:27] <JohnDoe1972> hi
[21:29] <silver-dragon> MemTotal:        3337440 kB
[21:29] <silver-dragon> ?
[21:30] <JohnDoe1972> hi silver they seem to have gone afk
[21:30] <JohnDoe1972> you tested your ram ?
[21:31] <diskin> silver-dragon, maybe video card took it (not sure if it can take that much)?
[21:31] <JohnDoe1972> silver-dragon, you tested your ram ? try looking at memory in bios to see if it is correct
[21:32] <silver-dragon> how can I test it?
[21:32] <JohnDoe1972> there are memory checkers you can doewnload of the internet
[21:32] <silver-dragon> ok I will boot in to the bios and brb
[21:32] <diskin> hold on
[21:32] <JohnDoe1972> or try swapping in some different sticks if you know anyone with some spare
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> silver-dragon  http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[21:33] <akik> JohnDoe1972: there's a memory checked in the grub boot loader menu
[21:33] <akik> checker
[21:33] <JohnDoe1972> ohh cool
[21:33] <silver-dragon> whats the grub hot key?
[21:33] <SnoopyDgg> When I do sudo tar -zcvpf /home/user/archive.tar.gz folder1/ multiple times, does it overwrite the tar that already exists?
[21:33] <JohnDoe1972> akik i have login loop problem. in tty1 i get error Signature not found in user keyring
[21:34] <JohnDoe1972> Signature not found in user keyring ?
[21:34] <akik> JohnDoe1972: sorry, don't know
[21:34] <JohnDoe1972> ok np
[21:34] <silver-dragon> I am on a Getac M230 kind of weird hard ware I have a hard time finding any info or help on it
[21:34] <akik> JohnDoe1972: if you create a new user, does that error stay the same?
[21:34] <JohnDoe1972> diskin, any idea what to do about Signature not found in user keyring ?
[21:35] <diskin> JohnDoe1972, sorry, no
[21:36] <silver-dragon> shift boots to grub
[21:36] <silver-dragon> brb
[21:39] <JohnDoe1972> .
[21:40] <akik> somehow memtest86 is missing from this installation's grub menu
[21:40] <akik> ahh # We need 16-bit boot, which isn't available on EFI.
[21:41] <akik> that's from /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+
[21:47] <d3bug> well, I know this isn't the phoronix channel but everyone there is a corpse aparently, so I thought I would ask in here and see if anyone is familiar with it under Ubuntu 16.04   x86_64
[21:47] <Te3-BloodyIron> So the odrej repo advised me to add a new repo as the curent one is depreciated for 5.6
[21:48] <Te3-BloodyIron> I'm using 5.6 on a server, and want to stay at that version
[21:48] <Te3-BloodyIron> adding the new repo, apt upgrade now insists I install php7
[21:48] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: you should contact ondrej for support (ppa owner)
[21:48] <Te3-BloodyIron> I haven't installed php7, and I am wondering how I can go about preventing apt update from installing it at this time
[21:48] <Te3-BloodyIron> I'm asking about general package management
[21:48] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[21:49] <Ben64> d3bug: it?
[21:49] <d3bug> Ben64: it what?
[21:49] <Te3-BloodyIron> 14.04 LTS
[21:49] <Ben64> exactly
[21:49] <d3bug> ooookie dokie
[21:50] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: php7 is *only* supported via ondrej's ppa on 14.04; and php5 in 14.04 is at 5.5.9 or so. So you've got two packages coming from the ppa. You probably could use pinning to prevent php7 from installing. But that's something with the ppa, not anything supported in this channel.
[21:50] <nacc> d3bug: you haven't actually stated a question yet, was Ben64's point
[21:51] <nacc> d3bug: you just said "it" in your statement
[21:51] <nacc> d3bug: did you mean "phoronix" ?
[21:51] <Te3-BloodyIron> I'm considering removing the new repo, since I didn't remove the "depreceiated" one
[21:51] <Te3-BloodyIron> do you see any pitfalls from that?
[21:52] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: ppas should only be removed with ppa-purge, imo
[21:52] <Te3-BloodyIron> why do you say that?
[21:52] <d3bug> nacc:  I stated "well, I know this isn't the phoronix channel but everyone there is a corpse aparently, so I thought I would ask in here and see if anyone is familiar with it under Ubuntu 16.04   x86_64"  if that is undecypherable to the average person (that I am asking if anyone is familiar with using phoronix under Ubuntu 16.04  x86_64) then I am afraid they would not speak enough English to help me anyway.
[21:52] <Ben64> phoronix is a website, doesn't make sense to ask anything about that here
[21:53] <tortib> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and I'm getting this error which disconnects my USB3 Hub and resets all my devices :: [ 6403.801821] usb 2-1.2.4.1: cannot submit urb (err = -19)
[21:53] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: but "pitfalls" would again be something to ask the ppa onwer about (ppa-purge should remove all affected packages), but ondrej probably knows what he is doing if he deprecated the first ppa
[21:53] <d3bug> it's a test suite actually, and they have a website dedicated to the test suite.
[21:53] <tortib> Is there a testing kernel I can upgrade to that may resolve this problem?
[21:53] <Ben64> phoronix-test-suite is a test suite sure, but you didn't say that
[21:53] <nacc> d3bug: you still didn't ask an *actual* question :)
[21:54] <Te3-BloodyIron> well, I'm sure he generally means well indeed, but in my case this will lead to actions I'm not okay with
[21:54] <Te3-BloodyIron> well, thanks for the info :)
[21:54] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: you're choosing to use his ppa, so you must already trust him that much
[21:55] <nacc> d3bug: we're all volunteers. It is better to give *more* information than less (ideally on one line), so people can know what you want help with.
[21:55] <Te3-BloodyIron> well, I also seem to trust you
[21:55] <Te3-BloodyIron> ;)
[21:55] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: fair point :)
[21:55] <Te3-BloodyIron> generally trusting must happen before progress can happen
[21:55] <Te3-BloodyIron> I trust Canonical
[21:56] <Te3-BloodyIron> and many others
[21:56] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: right, but ondrej has no affiliation to canonical or ubuntu, technically
[21:56] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: well, that ppa doesn't
[21:56] <Te3-BloodyIron> I imagine though that his repo has gone through at least _some_ vetting
[21:56] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: no, that's not how PPAs work
[21:56] <nacc> !ppa | Te3-BloodyIron
[21:56] <Te3-BloodyIron> yeah, I understand it is 3rd party
[21:56] <d3bug> pedantic pagentry... it must be a specialty today... :|
[21:56] <Te3-BloodyIron> yes, I understand that
[21:56] <Te3-BloodyIron> but I assume that the ppa would not be presented if enough people complained about the ppa
[21:56] <JohnDoe1972> hey guys anyone know what to do about Signature not found in user keyring
[21:56] <Te3-BloodyIron> as I assume it would be taken down from the ppa environment
[21:57] <Te3-BloodyIron> as an option
[21:57] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: no, that's not how ppas work
[21:57] <Te3-BloodyIron> so you're telling me, if enough people complained, a ppa would not be barred from general access in the environment?
[21:57] <Te3-BloodyIron> what if the ppa went malicious?
[21:57] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: i guess if it was something malicious, you're probably right; but if it's just plain wrong, then probably not
[21:58] <Te3-BloodyIron> "if that's just plain wrong", pardon?
[21:58] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: what do you mean "general access in the environment" ?
[21:58] <Te3-BloodyIron> okay, let me rephrase that
[21:58] <Ben64> you'd also probably get the malicious stuff before anyone could do anything about it
[21:58] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: like a bad package (mispackaged, etc)
[21:58] <Te3-BloodyIron> like, if enough people complained about the ppa causing lots of problems, let's say for simplicity's sake, malicious packages
[21:58] <tortib> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and I'm getting this error which disconnects my USB3 Hub and resets all my devices :: [ 6403.801821] usb 2-1.2.4.1: cannot submit urb (err = -19)
[21:58] <tortib> Is there a testing kernel I can upgrade to that may resolve this problem?
[21:58] <d3bug> I will rephrase the question so it is more to your liking:  Is anyone here familiar with using the phoronix-test-suite under Ubuntu 16.04 LTS  x86_64 ?   If so, can that person or persons help me with a problem I m having (even though this is not the support channel for the aforementioned program) ?
[21:58] <Te3-BloodyIron> I would _assume_ canonical to remove it from the ppa listing
[21:58] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: malicious packages are a very specific case, I'd say
[21:59] <Te3-BloodyIron> I know it's specific, but it's easy to talk about
[21:59] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: i don't think canonical really cares about the ppas that much
[21:59] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: as any lp user can create one
[21:59] <Te3-BloodyIron> so if this ppa suddenly started sending out malicious versions of php7, with injected code, canonical would do nothing? not even if there were lots of complaints?
[21:59] <nacc> d3bug: no one said you had to phrase it to anyone's liking. You've still only said you have a problem -- what is the problem?
[22:00] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: dunno if there's precedence for that. I mean, you as root chose to put the PPA on your system :)
[22:00] <Ben64> Te3-BloodyIron: you're still relying on a lot of things to happen
[22:00] <riqj> hello everyone, would you recommend openvpn for using vpn with ubuntu?
[22:00] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: and i already said malicious is probaby a special case that would be cared for
[22:00] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: but that's only one case
[22:00] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: using PPAs blindly (and assuming Canonical stands behind them at all) is bad.
[22:01] <OerHeks> Te3-BloodyIron, ppa's never go 'suddenly'...
[22:01] <d3bug> nacc:  since you asked, the problem is when trying to install any test the following message comes up "[PROBLEM] Network support is needed to obtain..." indicating it does not see a connection.  this is impossible as I am speaking to you on that very connection.
[22:01] <Te3-BloodyIron> PPAs serve similar trust functions to code contributors. If someone is trusted for a long time to commit good code, then suddenly they decide they're going to commit malicious code. There's a chance that it wil get missed.
[22:01] <Te3-BloodyIron> same thing with PPAs
[22:01] <Te3-BloodyIron> that's what I'm seeing
[22:02] <d3bug> nacc:  the only thing I found online was a reference to that problem back in 2015 and it was never answered.
[22:02] <OerHeks> Te3-BloodyIron, The only guarantee you get with ppa, is that malware ( if exist) gets to you unaltered or changed :-D
[22:02] <rypervenche> riqj: Sure, if you simply want a VPN, it works very well.
[22:02] <OerHeks> LoLZ
[22:02] <Te3-BloodyIron> it's fairly commonplace for people to use PPAs because mainline repos lag behind
[22:02] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: except there's no oversight in a PPA. Code contributers have code commiteres.
[22:02] <nacc> *commiters
[22:02] <Te3-BloodyIron> I'm not asking about guarantees
[22:02] <Te3-BloodyIron> I'm asking if canonical would act post-mortem
[22:03] <nacc> Te3-BloodyIron: you would need to ask canonical that, i think
[22:03] <Ben64> Te3-BloodyIron: nobody knows. it's the risk you have to take if you want PPAs
[22:03] <nacc> http://askubuntu.com/questions/7662/is-there-any-guarantee-that-software-from-launchpad-ppas-is-free-from-viruses-an
[22:03] <nacc> is not a bad answer
[22:03] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Vulnerabilities
[22:03] <nacc> there is a ring of trust via GPG keys and signing for uploads to PPAs
[22:04] <Te3-BloodyIron> "So in the case of a known malicious PPA we would simply ban the account and shut down the PPA"
[22:04] <Te3-BloodyIron> well that sounds a lot like what I was asking about
[22:04] <Te3-BloodyIron> which sounds good
[22:04] <Ben64> note the "known malicious"
[22:05] <Te3-BloodyIron> yeah, I understand the implications leading up
[22:05] <Te3-BloodyIron> anyways,  think that's about it for now peeps
[22:05] <Te3-BloodyIron> cya round :)
[22:06] <nacc> d3bug: what version of ubuntu?
[22:07] <d3bug> nacc:  16.04  x86_64
[22:08] <Grorco> Hi does anyone here use pgp keys?
[22:09] <d3bug> Grorco:  nah, I use PGP bump keys :P
[22:09] <riqj> rypervenche, I found different documentations of ubuntu about openvpn..but mostly they refer to versions until 10.04...are there more recent ones, or can these be applied to 16.04. in the same way?
[22:09] <nacc> Grorco: many people do
[22:10] <nacc> d3bug: not used phoronix before, have a lxc instance up, can you provide an example command to run?
[22:10] <OerHeks> Grorco, you do, if you play with ubuntu.
[22:10] <d3bug> nacc:   phoronix-test-suite install pts/video-cpu-usage
[22:11] <d3bug> nacc: to which the response is - [PROBLEM] Network support is needed to obtain pts/video-cpu-usage-1.2.1 data.
[22:12] <tominator> Hey, I was wondering how to add a boot image to Ubuntu's boot options
[22:12] <nacc> d3bug: hrm, i get a different response (but also an error): http://paste.ubuntu.com/18663219/ ah it might need php-zip, one sec
[22:12] <tominator> Specifically from an ISO
[22:12] <riqj> a newbie of vpn needs some orientation :)
[22:13] <d3bug> nacc:  yeah, it sees your connection just fine... mine - not so much.  yet here I am
[22:13] <nacc> d3bug: installing that, i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18663277/ and it's working on d/ling stuff, i assume
[22:13] <Grorco> is there a way to send an encrypted email using thunderbird if you don't have your own pgp?
[22:14] <d3bug> nacc:  yup, it's working for you.
[22:14] <nacc> d3bug: using any PPAs or any 3rd party packages? can you pastebin the exact command & output?
[22:14] <d3bug> nacc:  which is why it makes no sense whatsoever that it isn't working for me.
[22:14] <d3bug> nacc: one sec
[22:16] <smapdi> abjects.net
[22:16] <riqj> a nubian of openvpn needs some orientation :)
[22:16] <d3bug> nacc: http://pastebin.com/37uzbpRs
[22:17] <nacc> d3bug: hrm, i am running it as root (in the container)
[22:17] <d3bug> I did try it through sudo as well...
[22:17] <nacc> d3bug: ok, reading the code
[22:17] <d3bug> maybe I should sudo su
[22:17] <nacc> d3bug: nah, sudo would have been enough if that was it
[22:18] <riqj> paul newman of openvpn needs some orientation :)
[22:18] <d3bug> nacc: actually it works now if I use sudo su
[22:18] <d3bug> nacc:  that makes no sense... you have to run this as pure root aparently.
[22:18] <d3bug> nacc: it would be nice if they indicated that somewhere...
[22:19] <d3bug> nacc:  though I did get a weird error just now - dpkg-preconfigure: unable to re-open stdin: No such file or directory
[22:19] <XenonHG> Why hello
[22:20] <d3bug> nacc: seems to be working past it though
[22:20] <XenonHG> What's going on
[22:20] <riqj> isaac newton of openvpn needs some pastime company
[22:20] <d3bug> nacc:  I'll let you know if it actually works - I'll run the benchmark
[22:21] <maddawg2> so that's odd
[22:21] <maddawg2> i can resolve from one account but not from root
[22:21] <nacc> d3bug: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhoronixTestSuite
[22:21] <maddawg2> wtf is up with that
[22:21] <nacc> d3bug: not sure about all of the requirements, but it does show the prompt as #
[22:22] <OerHeks> maddawg2, please watch your language, you have been warned before
[22:22] <maddawg2> what?
[22:22] <nacc> d3bug: tbh, it's not surprsing that it needs to be root, benchmarks often do (or need to be properly isolated)
[22:22] <maddawg2> i didnt swear
[22:22] <nacc> !patience | riqj
[22:22] <nacc> maddawg2: resolve what?
[22:23] <Cursarion> hmm, is it trivial to switch from Gnome 3 to XCFE in 16.04? Couple of commands, or lots of tweaking?
[22:23] <riqj> I found different documentations of ubuntu about openvpn..but mostly they refer to versions until 10.04...are there more recent ones, or can these be applied to 16.04. in the same way?
[22:23] <maddawg2> nacc dns
[22:23] <nacc> Cursarion: i'd try `apt install xubuntu-desktop`, I think and then choose the right DE in the login prompt
[22:24] <Cursarion> nacc: ok, sounds easy enough
[22:24] <jooni> riqj: can you elaborate on what you want to do with openvpn?
[22:24] <OerHeks> riqj, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html 16.04 version
[22:24] <Cursarion> thanks
[22:25] <riqj> jooni, things that everyone does with it, I guess..OerHeks, thank you! :)
[22:26] <riqj> it wasnt much of an elaboration, though :)
[22:26] <d3bug> nacc:  yeah, but sudo should suffice.
[22:28] <riqj> there are a host of commercial vpn providers, some more frequently used, some less..how would ubuntu's openvpn compare to them? ..a newbie wonders..
[22:29] <nacc> riqj: that's not really a support topic -- this is more of a channel for if you have a problem, how to fix it...
[22:30] <riqj> nacc..ok, then let's skip this question and save it for a non-problem-solving environment...
[22:32] <riqj> how much of prior knowledge of networks does the setup of openvpn in 16.04. require?
[22:33] <jooni> riqj: desktop?
[22:33] <riqj> jooni, yes
[22:34] <riqj> for ex. I met 'iptables' in one of the tutorials for an earlier version, and didnt find where to edit it..
[22:34] <jooni> riqj: i use network-manager and it's pretty straight forward. do you have a provider yet?
[22:35] <riqj> jooni, ni
[22:35] <riqj> no*
[22:35] <riqj> but network manager is a default connection tool, no?
[22:36] <riqj> does vpn not have a different role for connections?
[22:37] <OerHeks> no, vpn is supported standard protocol in networkmanager.
[22:37] <OerHeks> it is *just* a connection.
[22:37] <jooni> riqj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[22:37] <TheReaperVirus> Anyone here try out the Nylas N1 email client?
[22:38] <OerHeks> TheReaperVirus, yes, nice cloud email client.
[22:38] <riqj> so then with network manager is there no need to go through the vpn installation?
[22:38] <riqj> like a gui for noobs? :)
[22:39] <OerHeks> riqj, pretty sure those questions are answered in the docs
[22:39] <TheReaperVirus> OerHeks: Any issues with privacy with them since you send your email out to their servers?
[22:39] <riqj> or a newbie-friendly way of using vpn, maybe
[22:40] <OerHeks> TheReaperVirus, well, it is on *their* servers, i had no issues, not even with removing my account.
[22:40] <silver-dragon> that mem test took for ever
[22:41] <compdoc> no errors?
[22:41] <silver-dragon> nope
[22:41] <silver-dragon> I it says memory was ok but I do indeed have 2 sticks of 2048mb memory
[22:42] <compdoc> how many passes?
[22:42] <riqj> ok, a final question, do I need an external vpn provider even when I use openvpn?
[22:42] <compdoc> 4g of ram is ok, i guess
[22:43] <silver-dragon> yes I have 4 gigs physical but ubuntu reports only 3.2 gigs
[22:43] <compdoc> then the video is assigned some ram
[22:43] <compdoc> or you are using 32bit ubuntu
[22:43] <silver-dragon> 64
[22:44] <riqj> mine is shown as 3.7 when it is 4gb
[22:44] <silver-dragon> ah I see
[22:44] <ubuntu714> can chown a user be possible like gicing a user root permissions always?
[22:44] <ubuntu714> giving*
[22:45] <compdoc> riqj, not sure your situation, but you never need a vpn provider to creat your own vpn
[22:45] <compdoc> ubuntu714, you dont like using sudo?
[22:46] <riqj> compdoc, ah, thank you, that was what I wanted to know.
[22:47] <ubuntu714> compdoc: i do sudo is fine and nice but im using jdownloader java edition and it always cant update because it says it doesnt have permission to wirte to the drive
[22:47] <riqj> thank you everyone, have a good time!
[22:47] <nacc> ubuntu714: chown changes file ownership, it doesn't refer to root specifically
[22:47] <ubuntu714> well the error says it doesnt have premission to write
[22:48] <nacc> ubuntu714: well, does it have permission?
[22:48] <ubuntu714> nacc: i have chmod 777 'file.jar' premissions is this not enough?
[22:49] <nacc> ubuntu714: no, why would you do that?
[22:49] <nacc> ubuntu714: that chagnes the permissions of the jar file, not where it is saving anything to
[22:49] <compdoc> ubuntu714, changing permissions on one file isnt going to make things easier, I think
[22:50] <ubuntu714> nacc: why what is the difference betweek chmod 777 and chmod -x? isnt 777 perminent?
[22:51] <ubuntu714> compdoc: you are right because it is trying to write the log file to a different location so i should chmod or chown the place where it is trying to write?
[22:51] <nacc> ubuntu714: chmod 777 says to give owner, group and all rwx privileges to a specified file (or directory). chmod -x removes execute privileges
[22:51] <JohnDoe1972> hey guys anyone know why i cant login ?
[22:52] <JohnDoe1972> ive changed my password
[22:52] <JohnDoe1972> but i still get Signature not found in user keyring
[22:52] <JohnDoe1972> encrypted home ?
[22:52] <ubuntu714> nacc: so i should chmod -x to get rid of the 777 command
[22:53] <nacc> ubuntu714: hrm?
[22:53] <nacc> ubuntu714: you should never have changed the permissions on that .jar file probably
[22:53] <ubuntu714> nacc: well i could delete it and download again
[22:53] <ubuntu714> nacc: or place it in a different directory
[22:54] <ubuntu714> nacc: then give it a shot but i dont think it will have premission to write the log file to the folder its trying to write to
[22:54] <ubuntu714> nacc: is there a command that will give it premission?
[22:54] <nacc> ubuntu714: right, the permissions of the jar have nothing to do with the permissions of where it trying to write files to
[22:54] <nacc> ubuntu714: i'm not sure why you would have thought they were related
[22:55] <ubuntu714> nacc: beginers confusion
[22:56] <ubuntu714> nacc: so do I have to grant permission to where its trying to write or give the program permission to write?
[22:56] <nacc> ubuntu714: can you run whatever command you are trying to, and c&p the output to pastebin?
[22:56] <nacc> ubuntu714: those are the same thing?
[22:56] <ubuntu714> nacc: i would have to come back into the chat since i am on ethernet and i only have 1 cord
[22:57] <JohnDoe1972> guys can anyone help ?
[22:57] <nacc> ubuntu714: to clarify, changing write permissions on an executable does not allow that executable to wrtie anywhere, it just makes that executable itself writable
[22:57] <ubuntu714> nacc: i see
[22:57] <nacc> ubuntu714: where various programs can write to is determined by the permissions on those locations (and the hierarchy of directories to get to that location)
[22:57] <ubuntu714> nacc: so what would be the command to write after i write down the folder path
[22:58] <ubuntu714> nacc: chown /folder/path/here?
[22:58] <nacc> ubuntu714: i don't know, you haven't yet provided the error to diagnose
[22:58] <nacc> ubuntu714: why are you referring to chown?
[22:58] <Garheade> JohnDoe1972, where exactly are you getting that warning?
[22:58] <JohnDoe1972> tty1
[22:59] <ubuntu714> nacc: i feel like chown is the command to bring ownership to said directory
[22:59] <JohnDoe1972> my login loops
[22:59] <nacc> ubuntu714: please just paste the command & output and we can try and help
[22:59] <JohnDoe1972> so ive been advised to change password
[22:59] <JohnDoe1972> which ive done
[22:59] <ubuntu714> nacc: i will be back in chat in 5 minutes i will come with same name
[22:59] <Garheade> JohnDoe1972, you might need to login via single user mode and reset the password for the user again.
[22:59] <JohnDoe1972> Garheade, ?
[23:00] <JohnDoe1972> ive reset the password in recovery mode
[23:00] <JohnDoe1972> ive reset the password via tty1
[23:00] <JohnDoe1972> is it anything to do with encrypted home ?
[23:00] <Garheade> JohnDoe1972, I can almost garuntee it does
[23:01] <JohnDoe1972> this is what i have been told
[23:01] <JohnDoe1972> but i dont know if my home is encrypted or not
[23:01] <JohnDoe1972> how would i confirm thiss ?
[23:02] <JohnDoe1972> and then how would i fix it
[23:03] <davido_> I suspect one way to confirm it is encryped is to log in as another user that has sudo privs. sudo sh, then cd to the encrypted user's homedir, and ls.  You shouldn't meet with success if it's encrypted.
[23:05] <JohnDoe1972> ok so how would i fix it then davido_ ?
[23:05] <davido_> did that check indicate that it is encrypted?
[23:05] <JohnDoe1972> umm i dont know how to do that check :/
[23:06] <JohnDoe1972> if i log in as guest would that be ok
[23:06] <davido_> no.  I don't believe guest has sudo privs.
[23:08] <davido_> If your homedir is encrypted and you don't have the password for it, you're probably in a bad state.  Can you try previous passwords?  Encryption really wouldn't be too useful if it were trivial to subvert it when someone mixes up their password.
[23:08] <JohnDoe1972> i dont have my old password
[23:08] <JohnDoe1972> ive reset it
[23:08] <JohnDoe1972> and now my login loops
[23:09] <davido_> i'm not quite sure what got you to where you are now, but you can't get around an encrypted homedir without the password against which it is encrypted.
[23:10] <JohnDoe1972> i did find one page that may help
[23:10] <JohnDoe1972> moment
[23:10] <JohnDoe1972> http://askubuntu.com/questions/602360/ubuntu-14-04-x64-encrypted-home-signature-not-found-in-user-keyring
[23:11] <JohnDoe1972> i dont really follow what i need to do however
[23:11] <JohnDoe1972> well i kindado
[23:11] <davido_> maybe that command will work.
[23:13] <tortib> My USB keeps resetting and I keep getting this error in dmesg output: [  690.532271] usb 2-1.2.4.1: cannot submit urb (err = -19)
[23:39] <ubuntu060> nacc: i would like to thank you
[23:40] <PcMasterRace> sup all
[23:40] <ubuntu060> nacc: moving jdownloader.jar to home folder without any chmod or chown commands made it work!
[23:40] <chasinglogic> PcMasterRace, what's up
[23:41] <PcMasterRace> maxing and relaxing now.
[23:41] <debzd> gotta make you. understaaand
[23:50] <danny_> What is a good backup solution?  I keep hearing rsync mentioned but does it really hold up to something like crashplan?
[23:50] <chasinglogic> danny_ it depends, are you backing up to a server you own? and are you primarily looking for snapshots
[23:53] <Bashing-om> !backup | danny_
[23:54] <nacc> danny_: in some ways, rsync is just the tool; you still need a plan to build around it (meaning it's not really a complete backup solution on its own, IMO)
[23:54] <battery> what is xfce4?
[23:54] <nacc> tortib: have you tried using a newer kernel? not sure it's kernel realted (could also be a buggy usb device)
[23:54] <nacc> !xfce | battery
[23:55] <Bashing-om> battery: xfce4 is a Desktop Environment .
[23:55] <debzd> battery: desktop environment, good for low spec hardware
[23:55] <battery> oh thanks
[23:55] <battery> :)
[23:55] <nacc> d3bug: do you happen to know if zip support is generally needed for phoronix? i will fix that up if so
[23:56] <d3bug> nacc: I would imagine so.
[23:56] <nacc> d3bug: any chance i could get you to file the bug? not a big deal, i can do it, just helps to have a user test the fix :)
[23:56] <d3bug> nacc: what it grabs mainly are archives, so it stands to reason it needs a way to extract them.
[23:56] <nacc> d3bug: ack, at least it gives a pretty clear error message right now; i'll also check trusty's version to see if mabye it was a builtin before
[23:57] <battery> sudo apt install xfce4 xfce4-goodies tightvncserverE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[23:57] <battery> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[23:57] <battery> what’s wrong? :(
[23:57] <d3bug> nacc: remind me in 40min... watching Columbo :)
[23:57] <chasinglogic> battery: something else is installing / updating packages
[23:57] <nacc> battery: as it says, possibly somethign else (autoupdater, etc.) may be running?
[23:57] <chasinglogic> battery: do you have update manager running?
[23:57] <nacc> d3bug: cool, thanks
[23:58] <battery> sudo apt-get update?
[23:58] <battery> ok?
[23:58] <battery> chasinglogic: ?
[23:59] <hammer25> Hey guys, I've been using windows 10 on my laptop, and I'm in the process of installing 16.04 along side it by repartioning my drive. When I start the install process, i get to the third slide and it asks for my installation type. It has an empty table with spaces for "device, type, mount point, format?, size, used, system". There is also a drop down box for "Device for boot loader installation" where the only option is "/dev/sda". What
[23:59] <nacc> battery: if it happens again, see what `ps aux | grep dpkg` says (maybe something else is runnig)
[23:59] <hammer25>  I haven't seen this screen in any of the tutorials I've looked at. I made backups of windows and all my data, but I'm trying to avoid damaging anything unnecessarily. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!