[03:08] <qengho> fg
[03:08] <qengho> damn
[03:08] <sarnold> gotta admit it worked though, now irc is foreground :)
[03:10] <qengho> Next I'll be using "wall" instead of irc.
[03:10] <sarnold> hehe
[06:45] <qengho> My PPA fails to build at dependency-installation time, and I can't understand why. Help?
[06:45] <qengho> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/271223373/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-i386.chromium-browser_51.0.2704.79-0ubuntu2.1258_BUILDING.txt.gz
[06:46] <qengho> "Depends: libpng12-dev but it is not going to be installed". Well, okay then.
[06:47] <RAOF> qengho: I suspect you want libpng-
[06:48] <RAOF> qengho: I suspect you want libpng-dev, if Chromium can build against it.
[06:49] <qengho> RAOF: Earlier I had  libpng12-dev | libpng16-dev  . Grr, okay.
[06:50] <RAOF> I don't think that'd work, either. I don't think the build-depend resolver is smart enough to take anything but the first alternative unless it's already installed.
[06:51]  * qengho boggles.
[07:53] <Laney> moin moin moin
[07:53] <TheMuso> Hey Laney , willcooke. :)
[07:55] <willcooke> morning Laney TheMuso
[07:56] <Laney> oh, hi TheMuso
[07:56] <willcooke> Laney, thanks for the merge of #1594816
[07:56] <Laney> I'm in your hemisphere
[07:56] <willcooke> already?
[07:56] <Laney> willcooke: np
[07:56] <Laney> already what?
[07:56] <willcooke> already home
[07:56] <didrocks> brain hemisphere maybe? :)
[07:57] <willcooke> or visiting Nigeria on the way home perhaps
[07:57] <Laney> not your hemisphere
[07:57] <willcooke> ohh
[07:57] <willcooke> TheMuso's
[07:57] <Laney> yeah!
[07:57] <willcooke> as you were
[07:57] <TheMuso> lol
[07:57] <didrocks> ah, it's a different you than the other "you"
[07:57] <didrocks> confusing Laney :)
[07:57] <didrocks> hey btw guys!
[07:58] <Trevinho> morning
[07:58] <TheMuso> Laney: Enjoy your time in this part of the world. No idea where you are, but I'm guessing its cooler than what you are used to atm.
[07:58] <Laney> TheMuso: I'm in CPT for debconf :)
[07:59] <Laney> It's actually pretty nice
[07:59] <Laney> we got 23 one day
[07:59] <TheMuso> Oh right.
[07:59] <Trevinho> Laney: y
[07:59] <Trevinho> hi*
[08:00] <Trevinho> seb128: hey, can you re-hit the publish button on https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1614 (or Laney)?
[08:00] <Laney> hi Trevinho
[08:00] <Trevinho> Laney: is debconf still going?
[08:03] <Laney> yep
[08:04] <seb128> hey Laney Trevinho TheMuso
[08:04] <seb128> Laney, I saw you had long sleaves on that photo ;-)
[08:05] <seb128> Trevinho, done
[08:05] <Trevinho> seb128: thanks
[08:05] <Trevinho> seb128: how are you?
[08:05] <seb128> I'm good thanks!
[08:05] <davmor2> seb128: that is to protect his arms against the blistering sun
[08:05] <seb128> how are you?
[08:05] <seb128> you are up on normal european time now? ;-)
[08:06] <Trevinho> allright, re-organizing a "mini-sprint" with andyrock :-D
[08:06] <seb128> haha
[08:06] <Trevinho> Well, trying to be a good guy :-P
[08:06] <seb128> where this time?
[08:06] <seb128> :-)
[08:06] <Laney> I was trying to load that
[08:06] <Laney> but lag
[08:06] <Trevinho> at my place, so Florence and somewhere around it.
[08:06] <seb128> Trevinho, going to watch the game tonight? so you can see how to play Germany :-)
[08:07] <Trevinho> seb128: sure, but it's hard to watch a match hoping that both would lose :-D
[08:08] <seb128> lol
[08:08]  * TheMuso -> EOD - Later folks.
[08:08] <seb128> is anyone using gdm here?
[08:08] <seb128> night TheMuso
[08:18] <andyrock> morning
[08:21] <tjaalton> seb128, willcooke: debian will soon switch all gen4+ intel to use modesetting instead of intel ddx driver. we'll follow soon after
[08:21] <seb128> hey andyrock, how are you?
[08:22] <tjaalton> intel driver will have a minimal xorg.conf that can be copied to /etc/X11 if someone wants to continue using it because of a bug in modeset/glamor or otherwise
[08:23] <seb128> k
[08:23] <seb128> so it doesn't change much for users in practice?
[08:23] <seb128> just tech changes?
[08:23] <tjaalton> no
[08:23] <tjaalton> hopefully _less_ bugs
[08:24] <seb128> k, good
[08:26] <andyrock> seb128: bad
[08:26] <andyrock> you know Trevinho....
[08:26] <andyrock> XD
[08:29] <willcooke> seb128, Laney - is it worth sruing this to 16.04.1?  I can do the paperwork if you think it is.  It would be "nice" but not super important
[08:29] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1594816
[08:30] <seb128> lol
[08:30] <seb128> going for some small errands, back in ~1h
[08:30] <seb128> willcooke, could be, unsure if we have a bit more to bundle with it though, which would be better
[12:23] <Laney> willcooke: I wouldn't just for that personally, but rather bundle it up if other things come along
[12:23] <Laney> up to you though
[12:25] <Laney> could make a merge proposal to make it less likely to get missed at that point
[12:25] <Laney> lp:~ubuntu-art-pkg/ubuntu-themes/16.04
[12:36] <dpm> willcooke, ubuntu software has not been working for me for a while (whenever I do a search or click on one of the featured apps, I end up with a blank screen with a spinning logo). Do you happen to know if this a known bug/is there a fix or workaround?
[12:42] <seb128> dpm, not known afaik/not workaround that I know about ... does it list things in the installed/to update sections and in the categories or do you get content only on the main screen?
[12:43] <dpm> thanks seb128, I get content only on the main screen. Either clicking on a tab at the top, on an app on the main screen or searching for an app gets me the blank screen
[12:44] <seb128> does it work in a guest session?
[12:44] <seb128> just asking in case, but I don't think there is much user specific state
[12:44]  * dpm tries and hopes he can log back in
[12:45] <dpm> seb128, heh, strangely enough the guest session does not work, I cannot log into it
[12:45] <dpm> it takes me to logdm with only my user listed
[12:46] <dpm> err *lightdm
[12:47] <seb128> hum
[12:47] <seb128> did you turn it off in your lightdm config?
[12:47] <seb128> the greeter is not listing guest as an option?
[12:47] <dpm> I don't even know you could do this, so I guess the answer is "no"
[12:47] <dpm> exactly, guest is not listed as an optin in the greeter
[12:57] <willcooke> Laney, thanks, done.
[12:57] <seb128> dpm, is that on xenial or yakkety?
[12:57] <dpm> xenial, with proposed enabled
[12:59] <seb128> dpm, you don't have any guest config in /etc/lightdm/...?
[13:00] <dpm> let me check
[13:01] <seb128> dpm, otherwise for the gnome-software issue, do you get any warning/error/buggy source if you sudo apt update?
[13:01] <seb128> could be a buggy/unsigned repo created issue
[13:01] <seb128> like spotify or chrome (used?) to do that
[13:01] <dpm> seb128, http://paste.ubuntu.com/18700521/ for lightdm, let me start g-s from cli
[13:02] <dpm> seb128, actually 'ubuntu-software' from cli launches the app but returns immediately with no terminal output
[13:03] <seb128> dpm, it's in the session as a service
[13:03] <seb128> you need to stop the current one to get the full output
[13:03] <Sweet5hark> whops, notebook seems to have rebooted out of the blue ... (overheating?)
[13:04] <seb128> but check if apt update works
[13:04] <dpm> ok
[13:04] <Sweet5hark> ahhh, journalctl shows all the fine logs ... from the reboot onwards, which isnt helping at all.
[13:04] <Sweet5hark> *grumble*
[13:05] <dpm> seb128, any particular process I should look for? 'killall ubuntu-software' does not find anything
[13:05] <seb128> dpm, gnome-software it's called
[13:05] <seb128> but try to apt update thing first
[13:06] <dpm> seb128, actually, killing gnome-software made it all work
[13:06] <seb128> :-/
[13:06] <seb128> dunno what the issue was then
[13:06] <seb128> check if journalctl or syslog has some errors maybe
[13:08] <dpm> ok, in any case, that unblocked me, thanks!
[13:08] <willcooke> turn it off and back on again \o/
[13:08] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[13:08] <dpm> that bug where the store icons for snaps are not shown in g-s, I guess is still needs to land?
[13:09] <willcooke> dpm, I can't remember exactly where that's at, I think it was pending a change in the store
[13:09] <willcooke> but it's certainly on the list of things to fix
[13:10] <dpm> thanks, just double-checking, g-s on my system mades me unsure of whether things break or they're still pending a fix
[13:15] <seb128> dpm, willcooke, unsure about the icon, I think the store guys said it should work but attente had issues, unsure if he debugged more/filed a bug on the store or snapd
[13:15] <dpm> seb128, is bug 1588266 the one?
[13:16] <seb128> no
[13:17] <dpm> I see it refers to another bug marked as invalid
[13:17] <seb128> well it has things that snapd doesn't provide
[13:17] <seb128> like screenshots or license
[13:17] <seb128> but icons is supposed to work as you just said
[13:17] <seb128> it's just that attente said it was not working
[13:17] <seb128> unsure if that got resolved
[13:17] <seb128> attente, did you end up looking more into it/filing a bug?
[13:17] <willcooke> I'll pick it up with Robert
[13:18] <seb128> willcooke, best to check if attente did something about it first though?
[13:18] <seb128> no point asking robert to re-investigate something which somebody in the team already debugged
[13:19] <attente> seb128: wasn't it an issue with the snaps themselves? that they were built with an older snapcraft?
[13:20] <seb128> that's what the store guys said
[13:20] <seb128> but we didn't find a snap that works
[13:20] <seb128> which is suspicious
[13:21] <seb128> but if you didn't debug more let's do what willcooke suggested and ask robert_ancell to have a look
[13:22] <attente> it's definitely snapd not giving an appropriate icon uri
[13:23] <attente> all of them just return "icon":""
[13:24] <a1fa> andyrock: you around ?
[13:29] <andyrock> a1fa: yep?
[13:30] <dpm> attente, seb128, from reading that bug, I think what they mentioned was that the apps hadn't been targetted to the '16' series, which is why they didn't return an icon. I can confirm though, that the apps that I've uploaded are definitely targetted to the 16 series, and still the icon is not showing up in g-s
[13:30] <attente> dpm: which snap(s) did you upload? i'll check it now
[13:31] <dpm> attente, notes, ubuntu-clock-app
[13:33] <attente> dpm: yeah. snapd is still not returning an icon uri there
[13:33] <dpm> attente, and is the series correct?
[13:34] <attente> dpm: how do i check that?
[13:35] <dpm> attente, well, I hoped you or the store guys could confirm that, I've no idea how to do that. I can confirm from looking at the store web UI that these two apps are for Ubuntu series: 16 :)
[13:36] <dpm> well, it says "Supported releases16"
[13:36] <dpm> it might be worth updating the bug, as I've got the impression the store guys think this is fixed on their side
[13:37] <a1fa> andyrock: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1581912
[13:37] <seb128> dpm, attente, right, that's what I was saying. we need somebody to investigate if that's true, snaps might not done what the store expect, or we might talk to the store the wrong way or their might still be a bug
[13:38] <seb128> attente is asking on #snappy, let's move there/wait for Chipaca to reply
[13:39] <a1fa> andyrock: this one is so annoying.. stuff gets tucked under the unity top panel, and its hard to get it out from there
[13:40] <a1fa> andyrock: oh. and its only present if unity launcher is on the bottom
[13:41] <a1fa> andyrock: if unity launcher is on the left, then maybe 5px are cut off because of the panel
[13:41] <a1fa> andyrock: instead of ~32
[13:42] <a1fa> so in both cases, its a bug :) launcher on the bottom -- pannel eats about 32 pixels from the top.. launcher on the left, panel eats ~5pxs
[13:47] <a1fa> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/259612604/Screenshot%20from%202016-05-14%2022-59-12.png
[13:47] <a1fa> i posted a screenshot too
[14:03] <dpm> seb128, I think you looked at fonts a bit for the desktop launchers. Does a particular font need to be shipped to work on a snap? Context: I'm upstreaming a snap, and upstream have explicitly set (and want) the app's font to be Liberation Sans, but it ends up being another font
[14:04] <dpm> I'm wondering if I need to specifically ship the package that contains Liberation Sans
[14:04] <seb128> yes
[14:04] <seb128> you should side-package it
[14:08] <didrocks> dpm: we symlink and enable any fonts that you ship in your snap
[14:08] <didrocks> so as seb128 told (I guess he meant "stage-packages" it)
[14:09] <dpm> thanks guys
[14:10] <seb128> didrocks, yes, sorry ;-)
[14:30] <willcooke> Laney, deleted that mess of an MP for 16.04 and made a new one: https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/gtkswitchoverflow-1604/+merge/299431
[14:34] <Laney> willcooke: okay (I get emailed) - you could have pushed over the old branch and it would have been updated, but thanks!
[14:35] <attente> didrocks: hey, can you rename this project on github? https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snap-desktop-links -> snapd-xdg-open
[14:39] <Laney> ximion is starting his appstream talk now if you want to knon what that is
[14:39] <Laney> https://debconf16.debconf.org/schedule/venue/1/
[14:40] <willcooke> ooh, thanks Laney
[14:40] <pitti> seb128: zeitgeist was removed from Debian (Debian bug 813582); do we plan to keep it?
[14:41] <willcooke> hm, video feed died
[14:41] <willcooke> back
[14:43] <seb128> pitti, v1 vs v2?
[14:45] <pitti> seb128: oh, right; libzeitgeist got removed, zeitgeist is still there
[14:45] <seb128> k
[14:45] <didrocks> attente: done!
[14:46] <attente> didrocks: thanks!
[14:46] <didrocks> yw :)
[14:46] <pitti> seb128: and there are still three scropes that build against the old lib
[14:46] <pitti> seb128: ok, these are certainly crufty, but I'll keep it for now as we have rdepends
[14:46] <pitti> sorry, missed 1 vs 2.
[14:47] <seb128> (sorry otp)
[14:55] <willcooke> Laney, is this talk going to be recorded?  Would like to point m_vo and robert_ancell at it later
[14:57] <mdeslaur> hrm, compiz is segfaulting since I updated my yakkety vm this morning. Is that a known issue?
[14:57] <seb128> back
[14:57] <willcooke> ruh roh - hikiko, Trevinho  --^
[14:58] <seb128> pitti, no worry, but yeah we still use it for the unity/dash recently used, GNOME never really used it I think so maybe Debian doesn't need it
[14:58] <willcooke> Laney, I can see yoouuuuuu!
[14:59] <seb128> mdeslaur, I don't think so, could be an issue in the lowgfx mode, can you get a backtrace?
[14:59] <seb128> Trevinho, willcooke, ^ that might put the SRU at risk :-/
[14:59] <willcooke> seb128, yeah. :((
[14:59] <hikiko> mdeslaur: "known" i ve seen some bug reports and I am looking for invalid memory access with valgrind
[14:59] <mdeslaur> bug 1599890
[14:59] <hikiko> No willcooke seb128
[14:59] <willcooke> hopefully hikiko can track it down and fix it quickly
[15:00] <hikiko> There was a bug report
[15:00] <hikiko> It's not the low gfx
[15:00] <hikiko> I am looking for it
[15:00] <hikiko> The report was from before
[15:01] <Laney> willcooke: they all end up here http://meetings-archive.debian.net/Public/debian-meetings/2016/debconf16/
[15:01] <seb128> well, mdeslaur issue started with today's update he said
[15:01] <seb128> so maybe a different one
[15:01] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[15:01] <Laney> after several hours
[15:01] <Laney> transcoding and shizzle
[15:01] <mdeslaur> let me paste my update log to the bug
[15:02] <hikiko> thanks mdeslaur I will look at it tomorrow
[15:06] <Trevinho> Mmm it does not look related to the last updates or at least in the SRU
[15:08] <mdeslaur> hrm, let me install a fresh vm, maybe something got borked during the upgrade
[15:09] <Trevinho> Ok let me know
[15:10] <seb128> Trevinho, hikiko, could be in the profile switch?
[15:11] <Trevinho> seb128: there's no profile switch at runtime
[15:11] <seb128> mdeslaur, when do it segfault, on session start? could you install the dbgsym to get a dbg bt?
[15:11] <hikiko> seb128: I have to check with valgrind but sounds highly impossible
[15:12] <mdeslaur> seb128: when I login, yes
[15:12] <hikiko> Mmm
[15:12] <mdeslaur> let me install a clean vm first, just to see
[15:13] <seb128> mdeslaur, keep the one that segfault though, maybe you can also try a guest session with it?
[15:13]  * mdeslaur tries guest session
[15:13] <mdeslaur> tyhicks just hit the compiz segfault after updating his vm too
[15:14] <hikiko> When did you update?
[15:14] <mdeslaur> seb128: guest session fails also
[15:14] <hikiko> Great :-/
[15:15] <seb128> mdeslaur, can you get a dbg bt?
[15:15] <mdeslaur> yeah, one sec
[15:16] <mdeslaur> seb128: so I install the dbgsym packages, then login...can I get them attached to the same bug then?
[15:16] <seb128> unsure
[15:16] <mdeslaur> k, let me see and perhaps file another bug
[15:17] <hikiko> Thanks mdeslaur
[15:17] <seb128> yeah
[15:17] <seb128> and dup the non dbg one
[15:17] <seb128> thanks
[15:20] <mdeslaur> argh, apport opened the existing bug
[15:22] <seb128> :-/
[15:25] <mdeslaur> ok, bug 1599900
[15:27] <seb128> Trevinho, hikiko, ^
[15:28] <Laney> nice bug number
[15:32] <hikiko> Mmm no much info in stacktrace, I'll look at it tomorrow, thanks seb128 and mdeslaur
[15:32] <seb128> mdeslaur, does it work better if you don't use the lowgfx profile?
[15:32] <mdeslaur> seb128: how do I do that?
[15:32] <seb128> mdeslaur, e.g edit /usr/share/upstart/sessions/unity7.conf
[15:32] <seb128> change the compiz_profile="ubuntu-lowgfx"
[15:33] <seb128> or comment those 3 lines
[15:33] <hikiko> seb128 are we sure he is using that? Vmware has 3d acceleration by default
[15:33] <mdeslaur> I'm using kvm, no 3d here
[15:33] <hikiko> Oh
[15:34] <seb128> hikiko, no, no idea ... but what he said
[15:34] <davmor2> mdeslaur: what gpu did you set?
[15:34] <hikiko> Sounds a lot like lowgfx problem then
[15:34] <mdeslaur> I tried both vmvga and qxl
[15:35] <mdeslaur> seb128: it works without lowgfx
[15:35] <seb128> k
[15:35] <davmor2> mdeslaur: if you use vmware or qxl you get better
[15:35] <seb128> hikiko, highly impossible and yet seems to be the case
[15:35] <hikiko> I said the profile
[15:35] <seb128> mdeslaur, thanks for reporting
[15:35] <mdeslaur> my vms may have a bunch of custom settings for compiz
[15:35] <davmor2> mdeslaur: only issue is vmware isn't available on uefi installs so I use qxl
[15:36] <seb128> mdeslaur, but guest session wouldn't have those?
[15:36] <seb128> mdeslaur, or did you customize system defaults in some ways?
[15:36] <seb128> also you said tyhicks has the issue as well?
[15:36] <hikiko> It can't be the profile seb128 but maybe something else in tr
[15:36] <mdeslaur> oh, true...let me look and make sure
[15:36] <hikiko> Trevinho's branch
[15:36] <seb128> could be
[15:37] <seb128> willcooke and I tested the lowgfx xenial SRU ppa version and didn't get that issue
[15:39] <willcooke> ya
[15:39] <willcooke> and sverdy did too
[15:39] <tyhicks> seb128: I hit the issue, as well, but mdeslaur and I are running identically configured VMs (part of the security team's testing infrastructure)
[15:39] <mdeslaur> seb128: the only thing I do that would apply to the guest user is removing animation and fade from /etc/compizconfig/unity.ini
[15:39] <hikiko> I said that the profile sounds highly impossible. I'll check this last branch that was merged and I didn't review it
[15:39] <mdeslaur> but the unity session works, the lowgfx one doesn't
[15:40] <hikiko> Wait the fade is removed ?
[15:40] <hikiko> It shouldn't
[15:40] <hikiko> The fade plugin
[15:40] <mdeslaur> hikiko: I do that when my script installs the vm, the default doesn't
[15:41] <mdeslaur> let me try with a new vm not installed from my script
[15:41] <hikiko> And when you do that you have no crash?
[15:42] <mdeslaur> oh, good question
[15:42] <mdeslaur> let me add it back and see the regular session crashes
[15:44] <hikiko> I'm going to install a yaketty vm
[15:45] <mdeslaur> adding it back didn't change anything
[15:46] <hikiko> Well since many people have that can't be the settings or the vm it's something in this last branch
[15:48] <seb128> going for some exercice, bbiab
[15:49] <ogra_> warming up fo the game ?
[15:49] <ogra_> :)
[15:50] <willcooke> :)
[15:51]  * ogra_ noticed seb128 took off tomorrow for weeping too :P 
[15:54] <davmor2> ogra_: yeah you Germans and your weeping ;)
[15:54] <ogra_> lol
[15:56] <davmor2> ogra_: the only person who wins in this match is seb128 right he can fly either flag with a quick hop over the river right :)
[16:20] <willcooke> mdeslaur, I just tried downloading a Y desktop image but dpkg is seg faulting (known issue) - when did you download your iso?
[16:20] <willcooke> or, how did you install it?
[16:26] <willcooke> ah, so the install gets so far, then this: http://imgur.com/MzDmaFU
[16:26] <willcooke> then you reboot and log in and it just get's stuck after the log in prompt
[16:26] <willcooke> hikiko, same for you right? ^
[16:28] <hikiko> yes willcooke
[16:39] <mdeslaur> willcooke: I am seeing this on a vm I updated, not a clean install
[16:39] <mdeslaur> willcooke: my clean install seems to be stuck
[16:39] <willcooke> mdeslaur, ah, kk
[16:39] <mdeslaur> willcooke: so I guess I'm also hitting the dpkg issue
[17:10] <hikiko> mdeslaur, still here?
[17:10] <mdeslaur> hikiko: yep
[17:10] <hikiko> could you tell us if you were using any other repos apart from the default?
[17:11] <hikiko> for example proposed?
[17:11] <mdeslaur> just the default, no proposed
[17:11] <hikiko> thanks a lot
[17:11] <mdeslaur> np
[17:11] <hikiko> and were did you see it's a segfault?
[17:11] <hikiko> or you said crash?
[17:12] <hikiko> mdeslaur, :)
[17:13] <mdeslaur> from the title the apport dialog showed me
[17:14] <hikiko> I see :)
[17:15] <mdeslaur> why?
[17:15] <hikiko> and mdeslaur you were in u7 you upgraded from there and you saw the segfault?
[17:15] <hikiko> and all the other times you try to login you only see the background?
[17:15] <mdeslaur> my upgrade script booted the vm, sshed in, dist apt-get dist-upgrade, then shut down the vm
[17:16] <mdeslaur> the next time I booted the vm and logged in I got the compiz segfault
[17:16] <hikiko> what happens if you login to lightdm then press ctrl alt f1 and write: DISPLAY=:0 unity --replace ccp&
[17:16] <mdeslaur> after the segfault?
[17:17] <hikiko> wait right now you login and you immediately see an error?
[17:17] <hikiko> or you login and you only see the background?
[17:17] <mdeslaur> now I just get a blank screen
[17:17] <mdeslaur> right, the background
[17:17] <hikiko> ok then could you:
[17:17] <hikiko> ctrl+alt+f1
[17:17] <hikiko> login
[17:17] <mdeslaur> hold on, I need to turn the lowgfx thing back on
[17:17] <hikiko> systemctl restart lightdm.service
[17:17] <hikiko> no worries
[17:17] <hikiko> I got the issue without lowgfx
[17:17] <hikiko> but no segfault
[17:18] <hikiko> that's why I am trying to see
[17:18] <hikiko> if the segfault was caused once after the upgrade and was a consequence of the bug which is elsewhere
[17:18] <hikiko> you shouldn't have marco's changes
[17:18] <hikiko> so the low gfx branch is not probably the problem
[17:19] <hikiko> our changes are in proposed
[17:19] <hikiko> so if you can do this:
[17:19] <hikiko> ctrl+alt+f1
[17:19] <willcooke> FWIW - I can't get an xfce session to start either, but MATE does.
[17:19] <mdeslaur> I don't see a compiz package in yakkety-proposed
[17:19] <hikiko> the latest changes are in unity
[17:20] <hikiko> and since it's a compiz plugin
[17:20] <hikiko> if it has an invalid mem access
[17:20] <hikiko> the segfault will appear in compiz
[17:20] <mdeslaur> no unity package in yakkety-proposed either
[17:20] <hikiko> mmm
[17:20] <hikiko> but you had the animations enabled in lowgfx right?
[17:21] <mdeslaur> I didn't touch the lowgfx profile, so whatever was the default there is what I had
[17:21] <hikiko> if you do apt-cache show unity | grep -i version
[17:21] <hikiko> what's the 1st line?
[17:22] <hikiko> Version: ...?
[17:22] <mdeslaur> 7.5.0+16.10.20160705.4-0ubuntu1
[17:22] <mdeslaur> (btw, the systemctl restart lightdm.service didn't help)
[17:23] <hikiko> we have the same
[17:23] <hikiko> no no after that
[17:23] <hikiko> you login
[17:23] <mdeslaur> "DISPLAY=:0 unity --replace ccp&" did work though
[17:23] <hikiko> and you press ctrl+alt+f1
[17:23] <hikiko> yep
[17:24] <hikiko> same in me
[17:24] <hikiko> and no segfault
[17:24] <hikiko> so I believe the problem is the initialization
[17:24] <hikiko> and because you upgraded from u7
[17:24] <hikiko> something broke and caused the segfault
[17:25] <hikiko> (just a theory though, I ll debug further)
[17:25] <hikiko> anyway we have to fix our unity init :p
[17:25] <hikiko> mdeslaur, thank you, we ll debug it :)
[17:26] <seb128> calling it a day and week, having tomorrow off, have a nice friday&w.e everyone
[17:26] <mdeslaur> I rebooted, and hit the background only session again
[17:30] <willcooke> cya seb128
[18:12] <willcooke> night all
[21:02] <robert_ancell> desrt, are you running GDM atm?
[21:11] <robert_ancell> or anyone else?
[22:11] <desrt> gdm3
[22:12] <desrt> i'm just about to head out to dinner though.  quick question?